80s Movies That Could Never Get Made Today
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The Controversy Behind 'The Toy,' 'Revenge of the Nerds,' 'Soul Man,' and 'Heathers'"
Join us on Retro Renaissance as we delve into the iconic 1980s cinema, exploring the laughter, controversies, and cultural reflections embedded in 'The Toy,' 'Revenge of the Nerds,' 'Soul Man,' and 'Heathers.' From racial dynamics to dark humor, these films have left an indelible mark on the cinematic landscape. Buckle up for a journey through the highs and lows of 80s movie nostalgia! #RetroMovies #80sCinema #MovieControversies
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00:00 Intro
00:51 The Toy
03:34 Revenge of the Nerds
07:45 Soul Man
11:36 Short Circuit
16:01 Heathers 
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The narrator clearly didn't live through the 80's.
His loss!
His mothers milk is still wet on his cheek.
What does that have to do with anything? They aren't saying these things were considered bad at the time (although as shown The Toy" generated criticism on its release) they are saying these elements would prevent the film from being made the same way now.
I saw Short Circuit in theatres and loved Revenge of the Nerds as a teenager, that doesn't mean I can't see now how deeply problematic they are. RtN is probably the worst movie on this list. It features illegal surveillance, non-consensual distribution of intimate images, making sexually explicit material available to a child (possibly refutable since nudity is not inherently sexual), sexual assault by proxy and those are just the in universe actions of our "heroes". When you look at the film from the outside its stereotyping of Asian people and gay people are crass and potentially offensive.
@@jakestone8818 These older movies are only "problematic" from the perspective of Leftist morality, which is the only type of morality some people have ever known -- but it is deeply flawed and self-contradictory. For instance, we are supposed to be concerned about the fate of future generations viz. climate change but killing off future generations through abortion is okay; we are supposed to go along with "black lives matter" but ignore the fact that the number one cause of premature death among black Americans is abortion and black on black crime. We are supposed to be against systemic racism but affirmative action is the only real example of systemic (institutionalized) racism in the West right now .. and there are countless other examples. Leftist morality is based on collectivism and Marxism. It ignores individual rights and reduces everyone to a collective; thus people are reduced to "persons of color" or a "white man." It relies on scapegoating and collective violence against the perceived "oppressor" -- originally the bourgeoisie, but now groups like men and whites. It created identity politics and virtue-signaling and "oppression Olympics" where your social status increases the more of a victim you are. It leads to the horrific mutilation of children through "gender-affirming care" - which can be likened to ancient child sacrifices to idolatrous deities. Marxism led to the enslavement, misery, and murder of millions in the 20th century; cultural Marxism (Leftism) is leading us down the path of an equally dystopian future. It is a truly evil ideology. Don't confuse it with true morality based on Judeo-Christian and Enlightenment values. The new radical Leftists are like the Red Guard during China's cultural revolution -- they believe in mass violence and wiping away everything and everyone old. This discussion of movies is an example: they want to eradicate the old as "problematic". Ultimately their vision for the world is totalitarian; it relies on brainwashing, violence, propaganda, and censorship.
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The Toy was poking fun at racism, not perpetuating it. Geez. Did the writers of this video even WATCH the movie?
Thank you, the kid wanted HIM, he just happened to be black.
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The film was based on a French film written by Francis Veber which was adpated for an American audience and sorry to say, the movie was a hit back in 1982 despite the insenitive material. I didn't hear Richard Pryor complaining about it even after the fact that it was made. I can see the complaint but the person should've just done his homework and find about the source material which happens to be an old French film and not slam why it was made or the fact that Pryor himself was apart of this.
same can be told about blazing saddles
Funny how in the 80s, these movies weren't triggering and everyone grew up to be productive citizens of society.
2023-24 comes along and people need safe spaces and their protective blankies to barely make it through a movie from the past.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with these past movies, other then some were just better than others.
You're right but, who raised the snowflakes of today? It was the people who grew up in the 80s.
@@TheKevinGHuttonthe internet
The Toy was very much disputed in the day because of the racial stuff
@@TheDopekitty It's because they cast a black actor, that's the only reason. Could have been white and it wouldn't have been a problem.
@@mikeschuler2946BINGO 🎯
My generation X
We raised the first generation of these snowflakes... But we didn't do any kind of half azzed decent job & yep we relied on TV and Internet to raise our kids.
Lol I call it out but I didn't raise a snowflake... My son loves these classics and he has no illusions of the world being a soft and nice place.
I raised MY SON RIGHT 😂 LOL
the fact that you bleeped out the word "pants." in "Did you get in her pants ?" is what's wrong with America in 2023. The idea that grown ups in college might want to get into the pants of other grown ups is so terrible, that you can't even say the word "pants."
Why does she have a penis? The snowflakes would really lose it and say that some women have penises.
Lol
Yeah, really don't understand why that got bleeped.
I’ve seen certain words on tiktok they can’t use that aren’t offensive 🙄
I don't have a clue wtf you are on about as 4 out of these 5 movies were forgettable trash that I watched but could never remember. But I concur completely with your statement. If he bleeped the word 'pants' because of its context... well, Retro R is pandering to a crowd I'm not a part of and will not bother watching another soft c*ck production from him again
The writers of this video accurately depict the feelings of Hollywood today. This is why we can't have any good movies now. Too worried about feelings instead of storytelling.
Yeah, none of these movies could get made today. Now we know why today's movies generally suck.
😂agreed
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Short Circuit could be. Just leave out Ben.
@@andywinslow9638 Nah. They would have to make Johnny 5 gay or something.
This video auteur had an Idea. He just didnt/couldnt execute it.
All of these films could be made today, without a single problem. He complained about certain things, which could easily be shown either again through a modern lense, or be updated with snowflakey tinted specs.
I'm 45. I somehow survived all of those movies. I'm a miracle!
Lol you Rayyyy cyst 😂😆😂
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But I'll bet a lot of people in these comments would go nuts if they saw two same-sex people holding hands in public.
@@loneshewolf74Really? What do you think the 80s were like? I lived through it and while same sex marriage didn’t exist, the idea wasn’t exactly as widely rejected as those who didn’t live through it are lead to believe.
@loneshewolf74 people don't really like public displays of affection from any couples. Makes them uncomfortable. So maybe knock it off, trying to make everyone who's different from you seem like the bad guy.
I guess so am I, since I was born during the 80s and survived.
What a sad, butt-hurt world we live in now....wow did humanity as a whole go down the wrong path
I bet your house smells like an ashtray
I miss the old days where people could make jokes about each other. And still function as a society.
No? We became less cringe.
@@Captainkirk88410 you know that racism and bigotry ran rampant more so then, right?
@@MrBooone Potato 🥔!
This video only highlights the very serious problem of special snowflaking that runs rampant in today's society.
Woukd that be the ever offended youth or the always satanic screaming geezers?
alright granpa, go and cry woke elsewhere
i agree with you . I want to live in a less cruel world & suggest those whom are terrified of stereotyping should actually join together & support for example the millions of parents whom only approve their kids’ draft towards wars because of fear of bullying & being labelled traitors or fight against exploitative world famous corporations’ treatment of young employees- instead of picking holes in soft targets such as the attitudes of mainly elderly or aged over 50 folk which is creating just as much misunderstanding & division. To criticise 80s movies which fought against cruel stereotypes & created a basis for todays’ culture of polemic political obsession is somewhat ironic. 🙄👍
ABSOLUTELY true. We have NOT evolved in a "good" way in MANY ways. Comedy and self deprecation is necessary for the world to progress and live, yet we are suppressing and oppressing it at every turn.
Indeed, and because Hollywierd is completely woke, they no longer make anything funny. A lot of this review is taken completely out of context. Like "The Toy" has no relation whatsoever to slavery. He was offered a job that he really didn't want to do, but he took it anyway, because it was like a year's salary for a few weeks time, and he was never not free to leave.
You can always tell a video is AI generated when they repeat the same point several times while acting like it had never been said before
Gen Z is weak and sensitive
About REVENGE OF THE NERDS, they did not form their own fraternity. They were allowed to join Lambda Lambda Lambda, a Black fraternity, because they were the only ones who would accept them.
Yeah these channels never do their due diligence !
Thank you, you took care of that for me.
Of course he hasnt seen it, just read some basic synopsis, or even just an article about the film and then tries to critique it.
That said, they only took them on a trial basis because they were forced to by their bylaws after they agreed to meet with them because they were the only frat they hadn’t sent a picture to. 😛
Short circuit still could be made today. I don't see what's wrong with that movie
Rae Dawn Chong must have really fallen for the ruse because she and C. Thomas Howell were actually married in real life for a while.
She was a cutie back in the day.
@@JaxonSmithers 💯 a hottie too back then. Still a cutie now though. Just older, like the best of us
Yeah but she been caught being anti black in interviews too
@@Loch1210 Caught by whom? By the same "problematic" people who condemned these movies?
@@str.77 caught by the world.Why would it be “ problematic “ that somebody would have a problem with blackface?
An entire generation that thinks 1984 is a how to manual, including thus video
Of 809 comments so far, I can't find a single one in support of "cancelling" any of these movies.
"'80s movies that could never be made today"? More like oversensitive people that would have never been tolerated in the '80s.
Those movies were already criticized in the 80s. The difference is just that the people those movies mess with are now sitting at the table. And that is what you really hate about it.
@@Schmidtelpunkt Every movie has it's critics, as did these back in their day. Though there's a reason these films became "cult classic status" and still hold that status today. The quality of movies today by-and-large is horrendous. So, no - your assumptive gaslighting of this as a personal issue of mine just doesn't hold water.
@@PhantomFilmAustralia That is not what gaslighting means - but I am not surprised you use a term simply because you must have heard it very often without understanding it and think it would fit as a universal defense.
And, nope, there are lot of great movies out there. Some more daring than before, as their edginess stems from a position of awareness instead of cluelessness. But of course that needs an audience able to comprehend the difference.
@@Schmidtelpunkt Keep deluding yourself, junior. Everyone can be a hero in a You Tube comment section. All the best on your adventures, big boy!
@@PhantomFilmAustralia I love how you blabber about "oversensitive people" and then have such a hard time to defend your point that you don't even dare to try. Maybe don't try to appear like the hard guy when you are to meek to deal with the echo.
I miss the 80s, the movies were way more interesting than most of what we get now, I love it when people make movies that piss other people off
Right there with you!
@@lexluthermiesterMe too. I grew up in the 80s. There sure were some strange movies, such as Killer klowns from outer space or The Hidden. And alot of horror movies such as the Nightmare on Elm Street movies, the Halloween movies, or The Fly (Killer klowns and The Hidden were horror too, but also weird). And adventure movies like Labrinth or Flight of the Navigator. And action such as the first 2 Beverly Hills Cop movies or the Rambo movies. And some very funny comedies such as the National Lampoon Vacation movies or Planes, Trains, Automobiles or Trading Places or Ruthless People or the first Naked Gun. And of course, there was also Back to the Future. And the great John Hughs movies Weird Science, Breakfast Club, and Ferris Bueller.
It's ironic that most of movies you talk about was meant to be seen as just wrong as not meant to be seen as accepted behavior. That's why it causes people to laugh, the audience understands how wrong the situation is, it's not meant to be a serious take on social issues.
@@kevingallagher188 Was your response to my comment or to @leeheverly's up top? If mine, I'm not sure why the movies I mentioned have been seen as unacceptable behavior.
Heathers and Short Circuit are just nit picky, silly. Has Euphoria not been seen by this poster.
It was a different world back then.. and I wouldn't change a thing. It happened.
Richard Pryor would never have touched the movie,”The Toy” if he thought it racist for a split second. Man please, give me a break.
It’s very racist.Either he didn’t see it that way and/or he was high ass hell.A black man being bought be a kid named Master. Come on dog.Then they got whole klan members who the father is cool with.Fam……
He basically disowned that movie.
The melatonin is the only thing making it different from Pretty Woman. Gere pays Roberts to pretty much do anything he says for a week; essentially the same as Pryor being hired to do anything the kid says for a week. And no, sleeping with Gere wasn't in the deal, Roberts initiated that.
Richard prior the new face of white supremicst
They did point out in the movie owning a black man wasn't right at least it was self aware enough to do that.
It's a FREAKING movie get over it
Love the 80's 😂😂😂
This script sounds like it was written by AI.
Sounds like it was narrated by AI too.
“It’s a Cosby decade”…..oh Lord if they only knew, actually they probably did. 🤦♀️
Only Hollywood insiders knew if the public had know the Cosby show would've never been a success.
Knew what?
Knew Bill Cosby was a predator
"get educated"? lol, I came here to be entertained!
I'm very surprised that "Trading Places" didn't make this list.
Blazing Saddles would really trigger him.....
@@laserblast92 wrong decade
@@laserblast92anything Mel Brooks
@@vazquezcarlos or with gene wilder
What a weak society we are now.
Some of these movies could be made today with minor tweaks. If Fisher Stevens' character is the only problem with Short Circuit, I'm sure they could still make movie today using an actual Indian actor.
I was thinking the same thing. I feel that the reason behind him playing an Indian character is because there probably weren’t many Indian actors available at the time. If made today, they wouldn’t have a problem filling that role authentically.
No disassemble 😢
It might have been awhile ago but I remember Short Circuit as a fairly family friendly movie.
I had no idea the Indian character was White in the 80s.
This movie is definitely tweakable.
So following the same logic Robin Hood, Prince of thieves could not be made today. Cause kevin costner was not english. Or highlander could not be made because christopher lambert was not scottish.
Or have the part be a white man.
This is why all modern movies suck.
All of them?
@@saksit247 No, its never all. Just most.
All movies suck!
@@saksit247 List what you think is a good movie and let people will tell you if it's good.
I'm a middle-aged Black man who grew up in the 1980s and loved it! I also went to Junior and High School with C. Thomas Howell. He was a really cool dude and I liked him very much!
I went to the theater with my fellow Black High School homies back in 1986 to watch Tom Howell in Soul Man and we were laughing out loud at that silly shit! The white folks in the audience thought we were crazy!
Ironically, people today have become so soft, sensitive, and pathetic that films are no longer allowed to be funny anymore.
Thanks to the Obama Administration and his constituents!
SO true! It's become so PC, people get offended so easily and get catered to. Sad.
Whatever you say, random dude on the internet who says he knew C. Thomas Howell.
wow. I loved the Outsiders. One of my favorite movies with him.
Soul Man is a movie that should be made today as alot of its subject matter is still relevant today. This is actually one of the best movies that describes White Privilege. I guess many people who have issues with this one never get to the end to get the full message.
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It's going to be a very long time before WOKE HOLLYWOOD makes another SOUL MAN flick!
I don't think that it will work in these sensitive, pathetically weak, and politically correct times! Don't forget about the censorship factor as well.
@Digital_Ghost_
Growing up in Los Angeles with celebrities as classmates or clients in business is commonplace! It's not a big deal, to be honest.
Tom Howell was just a suburban ordinary white dude back in the early 1980s.
Actually, back in the early 2000s, he was also a patient at my optometry office. We caught up on old times. This is the Santa Clarita Valley where we went to school in Castaic and Saugus.
You'd be shocked to hear about the people that I know out here in Hollywood!
The prologue to this video is amazingly self absorbed. The 'but we are better now' statement doesn't seem to grasp how time and society works. In 30 years, we could smugly make the same list of films now, once sensibilities change again. And I would contend the proper term is CHANGE, not IMPROVE. Some this are better, some worse, and most often what today finds all the rage tends to go too far toward and then past an important 'good idea'. I'd be this video producer is at the most 25 years old.
You nailed it.
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Couldn't have said it better myself ❤
Yep. People today definitely get outraged and offended much more easily don't they!
Whoever did this video sounds like another smug wokester who imagines himself morally superior. What arrogance. They create a strawman of the past and knock it down to elevate themselves because they are insecure.
Sounds like a bot to me.
Porky's would never be made today
All time great
There's enough wool there to knit a sweater
Says who?
@@chrismulwee4911 Tell 'im again, and shout it for the people at the back!
American Pie as well
Everyone of them. Because somebody will find fault no matter how miniscule the reason to complain is
Think about this, they can’t even make another Mel Brooks film because too many people would be upset about it. And it’s not because of his age. Although I will say that it does have a little bit playing another one ever getting made, but I strongly believe that any script he wrote, or turned in would be denied because people would be too afraid to film it
I think Pryor was hired for *The Toy" not because of the black stereotype thing, but more that the comedy in it is right up his alley.
If that were true nothing would get produced.
@@dhenderson1810 Weird Fact: The child actor that portrayed the bratty boy became a porn star as an adult...I wonder if he starred in a porno parody called the Sex Toy 🤔
Oh, come on! For all the times someone NOT Italian had the role of a stereotypical Italian (usually Mafia related or from the south, anyway), have you ever hear someone complain about it?
A stereotype is a joke, not a representation.
The intention is to have fun with common traits and behave related to a culture or race, not to discriminate.
It's incredible how whiny we have become in just a couple of generations.
That's why I'm glad I grew up in the 80s! Most of the movies nowadays suck
I'm glad I was born and grew up in the 80s too. Back when 2D animation was still popular.
The real insult of Soul Man is when he goes through how much 3 years of Harvard costs, and it's almost the cost of a semester of most colleges today........
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And their degrees actually had value. And got them jobs. Not some faux activist degree!
And blackface
He learns how the other half lives and was better man for it
I thought the same thing
Im sure in 20yrs they will be looking at today's movies and saying, "woe I can't believe they did that in a movie/song/tv show"
I have no idea what people will say about music/movies of today in 20 years, but I know what people are saying today, just by not going to the movies anymore and it's more than just the prices.
Heh, probably so. But I hope they look back and think "Damn we took that political correctness way too far!"
I think the overuse of the word problematic is very problematic
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I'm what some consider a liberal and I think that America has become way too sensitive. As a gen Xer we survived theses movies without overthinking these films. Most of these movies were not meant to be works of art. These movies were meant to be an escape, not real life.
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Actually, I think Booger said "We've got Bush!"
@@sevenwonders1717 Oh...hair pie.
@@sevenwonders1717 I thought it was Ronald Reagan.
Within THREE seconds I pressed STOP. Your voice is enough to enduce self-harm.
Thank you for reminding us non-flakes about these timeless gems!!! I'll binge watch them this weekend to reminisce of the good ol' days of yesteryear.
I'm surprised that "The Toy" even got made back then.
So it's wrong to have a movie like Soul man but okay to have White Chicks? To be fair I hated both equally.
Look up the movie True Identity (1991) lol
If I'm not mistaken, the former was criticized for actually having a black character actually played by a white actor that uses blackface as comedy and the latter was made by the same people who made Mrs Doubtfire so many accept that as a goofy story of a bumbling person in a different personality. But I agree the logic doesn't make sense
@@andywinslow9638 That is absolutely ridiculous. Soul Man was about a white guy using blackface. Are you even remotely suggesting that it was criticised for not having a black actor play the -duel- dual role and then whiten up to portray the character in the beginning of the film, and the last scene?
The "black character" wasnt black, at any single point in the film. The character was a white guy pretending to be black in the story.
The 'complaints' in this video were useless anyway, but your suggestion is cracked. No one said that.
2nd edit: oh I get it now, you havent seen the film.
White chicks is just a terrible movie, I don't get the hype
Blackface has a history of racism and violence.There is no history of “whiteface” hurting anybody.Not the same but nice try
Don't tell them about "Imma get you Sucka" its nothing but one stereotype after the other, it's a scream
Or "Don't be a Menace to South Central While Drinking Your Juice in the Hood." Another classic.
Having physical media is important here, don't just rely on over censored streaming. Start buying old, new dvds and blu-ray.
Heathers is one of my favorite movies of all time. Dark comedies will always offend someone since they are taking on the "taboos" of our culture. I don't know how the 80s movie Parents with Randy Quaid and Mary Beth Hurt didn't make this list. Harold and Maude from the 70s must really set people off.
Yeah, I agree with you. Heathers was an iconic movie of the 80s, and it's still loved by most of us who grew up in the 80s. I have actually never seen Parents before with Randy Quaid, I gotta check it out sometime.
Short Circuit is a very good movie too. The Fisher Stevens character was playing an Indian, but he was not intended to be offensive, and was actually a very likable character, smart and with a good heart. Generally speaking, it's not offensive unless a character has exaggerated faults based on faults that are known to whoever he/she is portraying. But Stevens' character was likable and did not have notable faults, unless you count the way he sometimes got common phrases mixed up, but that's not a notable trait with Indian people, it's hardly a major issue, plus it was funny the way he got phrases mixed up such as calling the john the jack, or saying bimbo instead of bingo, lol
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If anything, you'd think HEATHERS would get a pass precisely because they knew full well they were offending people. That was the point! When you know you're doing something "bad," you can plausibly make the "ha-ha, only joking" excuse. No one can accuse you of being the archetypal "racist grandma" brainwashed by her own prejudice.
I was so confused to see Short Circuit on here. I always thought the Indian character in Short Circuit was played by a real Indian. It was very convincing and I think that should be seen as an indication of great acting. Had they cast a real Indian, they likely would have had the exact same performance so what’s the problem?
This is why I keep my DVDs.😅
Same here. Start a buying campaign so dvds/BD doesn't go outta fashion
Yep, I have a shelf full of old movies and won't get rid of any of them. Plus, my theater room is covered with tins and posters of movies and a lot of 80's at that.
Me too.
@@jeremiahrose4681 Good for you.
@@dreamguardian8320 Thanks, I love my old movies, Afraid of what streaming services will take out.
So much fragility.
The trouble is people are way too sensitive about everything. Some people love to complain or get offended by things that are not that bad / serious ! The 80's were lots of fun xx
Quite frankly the decline of cinema is due to the PC police taking everything too damn seriously and putting out junk that makes sure no one gets their precious little noses out of joint. God I miss the 80's.
Not that christians didn't try their darndest back then and are still doing it to censor stuff.
If people could just stop being butt hurt all the time and tell others they have to follow THEIR sensibilities.
It’s capitalism. They want to sell as many units/tickets/views as possible to it has to appeal to the most people and offend nobody
@@sargonsblackgrandfather2072 You are correct there but in the 80's people generally were OK with things and didn't get their little sensibility's offended by something small and stupid that didn't really need a giant issue made of it. Sure you shouldn't go out and deliberately offend people but people are just too quick to be offended by the slightest thing these days.
@@Ninjabadger76 I agree to a certain extent but I think you’ll always have this generational divide in thinking too. I remember as a kid in the 80s tv and films were constantly telling us racism was bad and I bet our parents (our age now) got fed up with it, they didn’t see anything wrong with the culture they grew up on which in turn was alien to us. And I bet the it’ll be the same with our kids and their kids. The big difference these days is social media and the ability to publicly complain about these things. I also remember when I was young the papers were always going on about health and safety and political correctness “gone mad” and that was nearly forty years ago
@@sargonsblackgrandfather2072 Yeh I guess so you make some valid points maybe I'm just playing my right to be old and grumpy at the state of things card lol.
The "Revenge of the Nerds" part about sex by mistaken identity is a joke going back at least to the Middle Ages. Both Chaucer's "Canterbury Tales" and Boccaccio's "Decameron" had the same thing.
It's still r thoug
These aren’t men of culture. . .
Betty Childs still invited him to sex, and didn't seem to be too displeased afterwards...
This video and the culture that inspired it mostly missed the mark, but that one "joke" wasn't cool, especially with her being 100% okay after the reveal instead of understandably horrified.
I think this movie wasn't supposed to be a serious movie and be kind of cartoonish.
In real life, there is basically no way everything would be OK after the pie selling scene. How does Betty never know about the Pies? Seems basically impossible a very popular girl with a huge social life doesn't realize nude photos of her are being leaked right under her nose even in an age without Social media.
I think people try to take this movie too seriously.
Movie is definitely a product of its time. Definitely wouldn't be made today but doesn't make it a bad movie.
Oh yeah that’s right Soul Man can’t come out today cause who wants to go to Harvard anymore 😂
Seriously
Harvard has been taken over by the same joyless miserable Commies that police all entertainment now.
Are you kidding me? You tell me just exactly how you make any movie today and you don't piss someone off. Just yell at the fish to get out of the water too while you're at it.
Screw the opinions of the Millennials and gen Z the most useless Cry-Baby Generations. These are iconic movies!
The character of Booger from Revenge of the Nerds would today be considered an incel 😂
The Toy was a big movie when I was a kid and it’s been pretty much air brushed from history now
All I hear is how in the 80s and 90s we weren't a bunch of pansies who got offended by every little thing and had to run to our safe spaces.
Today, it's just a competition to see who can be more offended. And we all lost because of it.
That’s why we were lucky to see them in theaters and then on home video back in the 80s! I don’t know any of today’s movies that will still be as beloved 40 years later, much less remembered. These movies played all summer long and now movies play a week before going to steaming to get lost in the shuffle. I’m sick of today’s generation of tik tok creators criticizing classic and all time favorite movies when they have no idea what a good movie is. Movies are meant to entertain and enlighten when possible.
These movies could all be made today
All were great movies, unless you're a candy ass. I'm gonna watch all of them this weekend, including Blazing Saddles.
You know what? As someone who was born in the 70s, grew up in the 80s, and came of age in the 90s, I can honestly say that all of this "Social awareness" and being offended by anything and everything didn't start until the mid to late 2000s. Virtually everyone who grew up in that time period didn't have problems with any of these movies, we watched them and accepted them for what they were, entertainment. We didn't put every single thing under a microscope looking for the boogeyman like the generation that the OP obviously is a part of.
Believe me, "wokeness" was already present in American popular culture as far back as 1992. That year, ALADDIN was criticized for a song lyric implying that all Arabs cut off people's ears, and BASIC INSTINCT was condemned for depicting its only two lesbian characters as violent maniacs. Not to mention all the pearl-clutching over the violence in BATMAN RETURNS, HOME ALONE 2: LOST IN NEW YORK, etc. Depending which side of the political spectrum you were on in '92, you either exploited an "offensive" film as a culture-war maneuver or laughed off such ploys as cynical nonsense. So take heart! We've been through this jungle before.
@@SeasideDetective2 There have always been pearl clutchers throughout time but they presented themselves in different ways and most of the time they didn't have control of all of the institutions, making them insufferable destroyers of entertainment and enjoying life. In the past, they would throw their little fits and the rest of the world would ignore them and move on, maybe occasionally throwing them a little attention or alteration to shut them up.
@@mortimerbrewster3671 But our popular culture today is much more diverse and decentralized. These agitators do not tend to be, and almost never have been, business leaders, so they don't wield much power. They bray for a while and gain some notoriety, but most people laugh at them and eventually become bored with their antics.
I've seen all of these with the exception of Soul Man. I remember it existed, but I can't recall seeing it. I may have, but it wouldn't have been more than once.
I actually thought Stevens was Indian at the time.
I still love Revenge of the Nerds, but even back then, as a pre-teen, I knew the bouncy room scene was wrong.
Ditto with The Toy. But it was the absurdity of the whole situation that made it fun.
In the 70s and 80s everyone was a target. Like the old Dean Martin roasts. But this is how we learned from and confronted society's problems. Head on and with humour.
bouncy room scene was "wrong"? thanks, officer reverend. how the hell did betty NOT notice the difference between stan's shlong & lewis' shlong? seriously, think about it, she's been banged by stan a million times. AND, it was right after the "wrongness" was over that she fell for lewis & ditched stan, because lewis was a better screw. hohoho. only thing wrong with that scene is her.
Revenge of the nerds 1 & 2, short circuit 1 & 2 were some of my favorite movies when i was a kid lol
same I'm in my 30s now.
I disagree with Heathers being problematic. Parents talk to your kids
Sixteen Candles would get destroyed these days also lol one of my favorites
Yeah.That one I can get. Especially since molly is all over the net screaming rape. Completely excusing the blonde goes down on farmer ted. first
The gong in the background anyone a character says Long Duck Dong’s name 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@patrickc3419The Donger!
@@patrickc3419 he was probably the best character in that movie.
@@patrickc3419 The Donger need food!
I have not seen Soul Man since the early 90's and the Bill Cosby reference is what I remember most as The Cosby Show was still a juggernaut in syndication.
Soul Man is not blackface. Is not a white actor with painted skin in order to play a black character. Is a white actor playing a WHITE CHARACTER that paint his skin. And of course you have to mention Tropic Thunder, another example of not-blackface, because is a white actor portraying a white actor doing blackface.
The whole video just spit woke-ness in most of the "problems" (except maybe in the non-consten scene in ROTN) and the "remake" of Heathers with is "diverse" group is way worst than any of the 80s movies.
I think they could, and probably would. In fact they are tame by today's standards. That you can make a RUclips video that exploits the topics, claiming social evolution, even, is proof enough that they could get made, but considering the state of entertainment today, would probably be much more explicit.
Short Circuit could be made today
For sure
Dark comedy will not work now but it did back then some movies are my favorite heathers
Richard Pryor must have been incarnated as Steve Harvey
People who criticize movies like this need to lighten the hell up and just watch them for what they are. Get over it.
Much of this video amounts to an apology for all the films it reviews. Why not make a different video, therefore, if you’re just going to model for us, like patronizing officialdom, how we should be intellectually and emotionally responding to what you’re showing us?
If Lady Ballers can be made in 2023, any of these movies can be made now.
Doesn't mean it's a good film. In fact, nothing that has Ben Shitiros paw prints on it is worth what my cats leave in the litter box, but I would feed it to Matt Walsh.
I need to see Lady Ballers. Thanks for reminding me of it!
@@bladerunner3314 Do you have TDS too?
@@user-bw7se2zg7b Do you have a brain? Same answer.
"Sinnsc vhenn issz 'pants' an 'anti'-Nielsen vard?"
I can't tell whether the overly woke narration is sincere or ironic.
It's neither. It's just saying information gathered from sites and remarks left by others over the years and what happened from then to now.
It's video discussing why these movies wouldn't have been made today. How is that "woke"? And even more importantly, how are you still misunderstanding the term, using it incorrectly and being an ignorant victim of brain washing propaganda? Unless of course you actually think that turning racism and sexual assault into comedy is a good thing.
But you do grasp the concept of satire, don't you?
The Toy is one of my favorite movies. It's hilarious.
You could definately tell Christian Slater modeled his acting after Jack Nicholson.
Oh yah, for sure. He even mentions it in interviews.
Christian Slater IS the 80's and 90's to me.
Heather's is more popular now than it was back in the day. It lost 2 times it budget in 1988 but has had an EXTREMELY international successful musical (and has a censord version high school kids perform) as well as the TV show you mentioned.
Sorry Gen X but Heathers is the epitome of " I guess you guys aren't ready for that. But your kids are going to love it".
I loved it back in the 80s, and still love it.
I'm Gen X, and I LOVE this movie.
The heathers literally has a TV show a few years back , this is why this entire video is talking shit 😊
Despite everyone being fatter now than in the 1980's, everyone has gotten thin-skinned.
Despite everyone being fatter now than in the 1980's, everyone has gotten thin-skinned.
Keep in mind that everything is offensive to somebody. Seek and ye shall find.
The Toy led my sister to having one of the weirdest fears I've ever known. She was afraid to open our fridge because she thought she would get hit in the face by chocolate moose/pudding/fudge.
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Most of of all media needs to be viewed in the context in which they were created. Books of centuries before and films of the last century or so viewed today will trigger those looking tone triggered. BTW, Porkys, Bachelor Party, and Can't Buy me Love would make people go nuts today, however in context they were made weren't that bad. Movies today suck because creativity has been so diminished nothing can be made without pissing someone off.
Amazon just made Totally Killer, which is about a high school serial killer and there is a mean girls sequel coming out. There are plenty of movies about high school murders and bitch clubs. Even teen suicide. Heathers would totally be made today, and will be.
I loved it.
They can call
It what ever they want it was for comedy and laughter
"That could never get made today" is a phrase that gets thrown around a lot, but with the right writing, producers, director, and cast, almost anything could be turned into something amazing. Besides, there's media currently that "pushes the envelope" and nobody's freaking out.
We live in an era now where a lot of people are seemingly offended by their own shadow.
These are the same people who wear a mask. Alone. In a car. In 2024.
When you're a hammer, everything is a nail.
This felt like a lecture on a Pro DEI American campus. Most of this is common sense, not sure it needed the textbook readings 😅
even as a kid i knew revenge of the nerds had issues. luis pretends to be betty's boyfriend. they bang. and now she's in love with him.
Well..She could just insisted on him taking of his mask. He tricked her at best. Woouldn't call it rape though
This is true of all movies from all eras. They should be viewed in the context they were filmed. I just hope that banishment or banning or overediting of these films should discouraged. A brief warning should satisfy.
I'm sick of people saying movies are made "in the context of their time." In most cases, they're not. Unless you're making a docudrama or a satire, you're not trying to replicate social reality. You're creating a work of fiction - something sprung from your own imagination - that no one over the age of six would ever mistake for reality. And nobody - unless they were an idiot - ever saw a piece of light entertainment and decided to base their social and political beliefs on what they saw. You can laugh at something in an older movie and yet acknowledge that in real life it wouldn't be funny, right? Well, people watching those films in their own eras also kept that ironic distance. Give our ancestors more credit!
How long ago was "White Chicks" made?
Yes I seen that movie lol
Just so you know, almost all of the films in your video were heavily criticized when they came out, so their controversial nature has nothing to do with the passage of time or changing cultural norms. But Heathers is a classic and is still popular with young audiences to this day.
Revenge of the Nerds is by far middle school shenanigans by today’s standards of what goes on with hazing at colleges all over the US.
Heathers are the real mean girls.
Yes!!
I am Indian and took NO ISSUE in Fisher Stevens portrayal of an Indian scientists. As a matter of fact, many of my Indian friends made fun of him making fun of us! Please don't be offended on our behalf. If we find something offensive, we will tell you. 🤝
Are they going, to have a video twenty years, from now, about how the insensitive portrayal, of misfits/outcast, in TBBT? It’s basically twelve seasons, of Revenge of The Nerds.
People need to grow a Sense of hunor
Gen Z are missing that gene. They only lol ironically when they lose a follower on Twatter.
if Fisher Stevens can't play a "brown" guy, then Elliot Page shouldn't be allowed to play a woman.
Has Elliott played a woman since transitioning?
This comment is so dumb ...
Agreed
@@TheDopekitty According to Wiki, just a voice gig.
@@bladerunner3314I mean? Bit dumber then let’s say? A girl pretending to be a boy!😂😂😂
Bring back the 1980's & 1990's...