So if you had to give up your sport bike for a cruiser which one would you get? That Vmax looks pretty sweet. Don't forget we're giving away bikes, so head over to yammienoob.co get entered!
Been there done that. I used to race in the 70s and 80s and in them days I would be wanting a crotch rocket. But I quit riding for a while as I got older waiting for my kids to grow up and then went back into bikes in 2007 but I wanted something fast but I didn't want a crotch rocket anymore so I ended up with a M109R and I've been totally pleased with it ever since
Let me help you out son. 10- harley V-rod( still faster then anything HD makes) 9- yamaha Raider 1900 8- Honda VTX 1800 7-Honda V65 magna ( the OG) 6- Suzuki M109 Boss 5 - Honda Valkyrie or Rune 4- Motus MSTR ( not technically a cruiser but has the best engine of all) 3- Triumph rocket 3 2- Ducati Diavel #1b- VMAX gen1 (dont ever forget it) #1- Vmax Gen 2( incase you forgot)
I'd agree with this list. Yams list is dumb. But that's why you shouldn't listen to someone whose only owned two bikes and crashed purely to see if he could learn a lesson
I remember the first time I saw a V Max. I was 14, and saw a parked vehicle, it had two wheels, it had handle bars, but for some reason it took me a few seconds to realise it's a motorbike. I was in awe. I had never stared at anything for so long at that point in my life.
That's crazy the first time I saw the vmax I was 14 in 1985 and i couldn't stop looking at it the bike was so bad ass I didn't know what to make of it I was in shock I think.
Vmax hands down. It's my dream bike! Granted, I am very biased to V4's. I'm probably gonna pick up a V45 Magna/Saber as a stepping stone to get there. But some day....
I’m happy with my 03 magna and 94 vmax, I love the v4 power and imo one of the best sounds of a motorcycle. I’m just happy seeing motorcycle riders riding, I don’t care who rides what at least they’re riding 👍🏍
Something about this makes me think all he did was look at the Rocket 3's stat sheet for a brief second then looked at the price tag and then made this video.
I have a rocket 3 GT and it's in last place yeh ok the amount of standard gizmos you get beats the competition especially HD and power and handling it's up there , really up there
@@johnwatson5930 I guess it depends what you are rating them on. This is his personal list. For me the Style, heritage, sound and character are just as important as performance, technology and handling. The feelings i get while riding the bikes. For this reason I also rank the Fat Bob at number 1. If we are ranking them on tech, gizmos and performance then obviously the Diavel and Rocket 3 are going to come out on top. In saying that, the Fat Bob handles quite well, just not when compared to a Diavel.
Agreed, I love mine. I had a 00 twin cam HD and after that my vmax let me tell you what a huge difference in comfort and power. The first time I hit v boost I couldn’t believe the insane power difference between the two.
Depends On what you're seeking in your bike if pure raw power in a straight line is the only thing you want without anything else then yes vmax is the king of the muscle cruisers. But my first impression riding one was horrible the bike handles like at ass. It doesn't want to do anything besides riding straight which doesn't feel very stable doing so too and every turn the steering was heavy and unpleasant i thought i had a flat front tire. Not in the million years, i would get a Vmax as my only bike or everyday bike. It's horrible around town and you feel every pound of the bike if you going at slower speeds which is fatiguing and defeats the purpose of a cruiser in the first place. To appreciate the bike you need very long country without too much hard twistys or going to a drag strip. I prefer something like Diavel which is only slower than the Vmax in .0.4s in 1/4 mile but handles like at actually sportbike and can be ridden on the track and put superbikes to shame if you know what you're doing, While being very comfortable and easy to ride. Pretty much the best all-around muscle cruiser and good at everything and master of nothing type of bike.
@@bkingtz1 Get vmax test ride and see for yourself the steering is heavy af and overall handling like ass!. No i've never ridden Bking. But i did rode hayabusa which is very close to a bking and handling was very nice specially for the bike it's size. Bking is just a naked version of hayabusa so it must handle just as good.
My top Muscle cruisers STILL in production would be; 1.) The Yamaha Vmax 1700 2.) Triumph Rocket 3 3. Ducati Diavel 4.) Suzuki M109 5.) Indian Scout An air cooled and/or oil cooled motorcycle would never make my list. If a manufacturer doesn’t want to design a modern liquid cooled engine with smooth reliable performance straight from the factory it shouldn’t imo be compared to brands that do.
..I was surprised when he said that the Diavel was the fastest bike on the list. The V-Max is a beast of a bike. I am looking to buy another bike, I already own a Rocket 111 and was thinking about the V-Max. Or go for another GSX1400. I'm a big bloke so need a big bike:) As for HD's....never!
@@rufus1346 The Vmax is faster than everything on that list from 0 to 60. 2.5 sec. I have a 2016 Vmax. Bought it new. It will exceed your expectations by 200%. The build quality is fantastic. First service is at 41,000 miles.
@@Jason-sz5zv I am sure I read somewhere that the older ones are the fastest. Something to do with a power valve, or something like that:) They are mad bikes, it is one I want some day for my bucket list.........
You are where I want to be in life lol I have the Raider and I love that bike one day I want to get a Vmax there both the greatest bikes in my opinion I couldn't pick between them
Triumph Rocket III, the new standard for the term Cruiser, hands down, both powerful and refined at the same time. Suzuki? Yo Yammie, the 80's wants their Katana back, and the rest of the Japanese Bikes!
Cool bike but I hear it corners like a clipper ship. Fast is great, there is no doubt. But a drag bike on the street sounds like it's lacking in the other departments. But always kinda wanted one anyway.
The Valk is too sophisticated and polite and should never be considered "muscle". I love my Valk and like to think I'm enjoying the road with a magnificent Norse beauty, not riding on the back of John Cena or "The Rock". Eww!
Also love my '14 Valkyrie. She will rip your hands of the bars 0-60, and then you can put 200 miles on her fill up and feel like you can do another 200. Just an absolutely perfect bike...for me.
CRUISERS!!! Spite you are the man. Really so you sound so laid back and calm its exactly the voice one expects from someone who is into cruising. Keep up the good work team yam.
@@BigUriel No same engine, they upped the CC's by like 50. They even say on their site. Biggest difference is reworked chassis, and chain rather than belt drive. And if u compare the old and current it's like a 3 hp difference. And the max was beating it by a decent amount. If anything, no the diavel would be better on high-end performance. And pretty much always lose light to light or in 1/4 mile. I'd be willing to bet that it's still not as fast as max. Keep in mind during upgrade time, the diavel runs 13:0:1. And the Vmax is running 11:3:1. On compression ratio. That means basically, the max is faster than the diavel stock. And not working as hard for it either. Youll get far more from your upgrades on a max
Acceleration is the one and only criterium to call a cruiser a power cruiser or muscle bike and the first gen V Max is still King....second gen has no equal and is untouchable. So place 1 and two should always go to Yamaha as long as no other bike is faster on the quarter mile.
my 2011 Fat Bob is a jack of all trades; forward pegs but has capacity to switch out to floor boards, added bags, removable backrest, dual disks up front, massive tires same size as the Road King, 96-in motor and six speed gets me to around 110 mph and does it right away, it just needed a swap on the handlebars to make it more comfortable for the long rides. only takes about 40 minutes to race from ABQ to Santa Fe, or can take a nice meandering ride with a little mama resting comfortable at your back, saddle bags stocked with a picnic. I'm happy with a strong all around bike.
I love my scout bobber! I think with exhaust and intake your about 115 hp 105 tq on a bike that barely weighs 500 lbs. And the sheer badass styling is the real breadwinner about it.
I have 3 Vmax's and I got to agree, love riding it full power and that rush of speed, is awesome, its hard to let go, much less give up. Damn, its so smooth and feels right, but it makes me smile!!! lol..They are right, fast as hell and fun!!
It depends on what's most important on your checklist: For INSANE power, comfort & supreme reliability, the 2 gen. V-MAX is unbeatable. For an air-cooled V-Twin that puts the Fat Bob to absolute SHAME for engineering & BADASS asthetics, I'd get a Victory Hammer. For a liquid-cooled Big Twin the SUZUKI M109R B.O.S.S.. For a unique looking torque monster I'd go with the new Rocket 3. For a Cruiser/Super Sport, the Diavel. But there's only one Muscle Cruiser (or any bike really) that gave me goosebumps just looking at it which meets my checklist- 1) liquid-cooled 2) plenty of power 3) badass beautiful 4) not high maintenance or over expensive parts 5) Unique as opposed to common 6) American V-Twin- #1; the HD V-ROD MUSCLE is KING in my cycle world!
I have a Yamaha Raider and I wouldn’t trade it for anything on this list, sure some are faster but the raider is a torque beast for hauling my 340 pound ass around, very comfortable for tall riders, smooth as glass, a lot better looking than anything on the list and the handling is amazing for being 700+ pounds.
I've had my vrod muscle for 9 years and every ride is as BA as the first. Thanks Spite for representing the cruisers. Also, Spite, you need a clever rhyme name.
Definetly appreciate the list. I've owned a 2011 Victory Hammer (1700cc 250mm rear tire monster) that is a blast. Now I own a 2013 Yamaha Raider 1900 with a 245mm rear tire and it tears my arms off everytime. Really sad i didnt see either in your list. But who knows beauty is in the eye of the beholder. And I respect that.
@@dimitripelser9577 having owned both...the hammer is pretty aggressive in a bad way compared to the Raider. The hammer feels like a heavy wannabe sport bike. The Raider feels like it doesn't give a fuck haha.
That Drunk Guy my first bike used to be my brothers! It was a hyosung rx125! It was past on to me when I was 12! Learned to ride it off road only and after 4 years when I could finally get my license I took all my savings from birthdays and worked selling blackberry and iphone cases in school and family friends and bought myself a 2005 honda cb500f! I loved the bike and now I ride a 2016 kawasaki versys 1000 and a 2008 Harley Davidson Rocker C! I want my next bike to be a new BMW S1000XR. Slowly going for nicer bike, just got to work your way up
VMax would be my choice....corners like riding a sawhorse....but in a straight shot.....the ‘86 leaves even the newer versions “wanting” imo...great bike...was surprised to see your #1....much respect 👊🇺🇸👊
Not gunna lie nearly spilt my coffee when he said number 1 was the Fat bob. Im by no means a wealthy guy or a Harely fan boy for that matter. But when they unveiled it in late 2017 i went out of my way to get one, ended up getting 1 of the first 7 Harely Davidson Fat bobs to arrive into Scotland. Highly recommend it, I commute on it Monday through Sunday in all weathers in both seasons here in Scotland Winter and June. Im never getting rid of it.
There are two for me , the V-Max and the Rocket Three ! The others I would put in a category of their own ! The V Max first only because it’s been around longer and will smoke the Rocket three in a drag race but not on a low speed roll on it top gear ! I have driven both and the Rocket Three handles much better !
M109R best muscle cruiser. Actually my first . I purchased it at 58 .I was totally blown away by how an torque. Looks everything about the bike said I'm the man.
tbh when i think about "power cruiser" the only 2 which come to my mind are Yamaha V-MAX and Ducati XDiavel. everything else is rubbish) Oh y, dat Harley @ 10:30 looks very cool actually. finally something modern looking, not avg cruiser for the guys who are in their late sixties.
Agreed. I personally cant stand the excessive use of chrome, antiquated head/signal lights and dinosaur anolog tach/speedometer that they slap on everything. Its quite unfortunate that i prefer foot forward controls. Literally the only reason why i walked away from the vmax. If kawasaki could release a vulcan S with a h2 engine and digital dash id be a happy camper. Had a 08 Meanstreak and was looking to replace it. The closest thing to it was a m109 and i felt like it was missing something. Didn't seem like a upgrade. Just more of the same. Modern amenities or bust.
I dont care how well it handles, I cant get past the looks of the Diavel. I think its an ugly bike. Doesn't know if it wants to be a cruiser or a sport bike.
Story of my life.. got to test ride Fat Bob and loved it… NO test rides for Vmax in my part of the world and managed to ride one a week later from a guy who had bought it previously.. and was blown away.. went back to HD to test ride Fat Bob one more time same day.. i felt it was too slow and just felt it was too light.. and then went and booked a VMAX right after that.. it was a no brainer.. they were priced similarly in 2018.. 3.5 yrs after.. Vmax biggest issue was fuel tank and not the safest feeling at the corners.. but it just feels great revving that throttle.. so VMAX all the way between them.
Sorry, Yammie, but a cruiser isn't a cruiser if your foot peg position is under your butt or behind it (creating an acute angle at your knees). Cruisers, in my lexicon, require that your feet be in front of your butt (creating an obtuse angle at your knees). So some of your selections don't qualify as cruisers to me. Having said that, I owned a couple of power cruisers (what they were called when they were in production) that should've made your list, if it included past models: the mighty Honda Valkyrie. Now own a Honda VTX1800, which is also a torque monster. Thanks for doin' what you do, bra.
@Cj Wouldn't do that to a cbr1000rr but for a lot of UJM's you could put forward pegs on them and they'd make great pseudo-cruisers. In my book though, pure cruisers are either standard/forward controls (never rear), and generate peak torque in the lower half of their rev range. The last part is the most important because you're not really cruising if you have to hammer it to get all your power.
Your absolutely right, I dont even consider the diavel or vmax a true muscle cruiser. I use to own a vtx 1800 and it's a badass bike. Enjoy it man! It will leave 600's till about 80mph!
Agreed. I have a 2009 VMAX. It is definitely not a cruiser by the very criteria that you mention. It is a naked muscle bike. The foot position is not an arbitrary choice. Cruisers are feet-forward because the frame has been designed to keep the seat very low so that the rider can put his feet flat on the ground at a stop. This results in the foot controls having to be placed forward otherwise the rider's knees would be practically at chest-level with a standard foot position. The VMAX controls are in what used to be called the standard position with the feet behind the knees and the rider leaning slightly forward into the handlebars. This provides the best compromise between handling and comfort.
I had a M109R and currently ride a 2018 VMax. The 2 motorcycles arent even in the same class. At low speed (under 100mph), they are kind of similar, but at high speed the VMax turns into a sport bike. I am MUCH happier with the VMax.
I got into bikes dreaming of getting a naked bike, a fast and agile monster of a bike. But then I rode a Suzuki Boulevard 650cc and a Honda rebel 500 during my motorcycle course and I just fell in love with the feeling of it. I have been riding my 1999 Honda Magna for a year now and although it's 'only' a 750cc, it is an absolute beast of a V4 and I couldn't be happier. Cruisers are a lot of fun and I haven't looked back ever since.
MY FELLOW,MOTORCYCLE RIDER'S,WITH RESPECT TO ALL,OVER MANY YEARS I OWNED MANY MOTORCYCLES NOW & ALSO OF DIFFERENT STYLES & CATAGORIES,WHEN I MOUNT MY V-MAX & TURN THAT THROTTLE,MANY THING'S COURSE THRU MY MIND,HOW DO I CONTROL SUCH A MAD BEAST,IS THERE LIFE AFTER DEATH,I'M MY FLYING,I LOVE IT.THANK YOU ALL, KEEP THE RUBBER SIDE DOWN,SPAZZ.
Let the yam back on. Two harleys, a suzuki, and a victory? You lost your cred. there are ONLY 3 bruisers: VMax, Rocket, and Diavel. I’ve owned the latter two for 5+ years and ridden against harleys probably 50+ times. Never even ever close to the speed from a harley. fast FOR a harley maybe. So grab your bagger and flip flops all you want but 2 harleys atop the bruiser list is a mistake. Good try though.
Sorry but based on feelings and bias I 100% agree with this list!! LOL! Seriously though I would have put the Diavel at #1, but you have to admit there's just something about that Fat Bob styling that is just so modern and muscular. It has to be the best styled muscle cruiser on the list for sure.
If you are taking into account style as well as performance then Harley Wins hands down imo. The Fat Bob might not be the fastest or the best handling on the list but for me it wins as an overal package.
@@StateOfMind63 I don’t like to rag on another mans bike but Harley has never been known for performance, in acceleration or handling. I’ve had many bikes including two Harleys. Old air cooled, push rod, heavy steel frame technology can’t run with modern performance. Compare an Indian Scout with a Sportster, eg..There’s no comparison in performance there really. But it’s enough power and handling for you so that’s fine. I give you the style though. But when everyone has the same style, how is it style anymore? Running with the herd is what Harley used to not stand for, and then Harley became popular. But enjoy your slow heavy STYLISH bike. 🙂
@@mikemccormick8115 The 2018 softtails are nothing like the old Dynas though. They dont vibrate anymore, they handle far better too and once you get going you hardly feel the weight. The Fat Bob is definitely not slow and this is coming from a former sports bike rider. It's not the fastest bike i've ridden but its plenty fast enough for its purpose. You're right about the Indian Scouts being superior to Sportsters but i definitely still prefer the New Fat Bob, its much torqier and much comfier.
I've owned 2 VRODS 1 street rod VRSCR and then a night rod VRSCD both were 2006, I would smoke my son's ninja 636 until 118 mph. I liked them both maintenance was low & easy, now I own a 15 Diavel Carbon and what an awesome bike, night & day difference Harley could never compete, more comfortable to ride & throw around on the twisty roads and LOTS OF POWER.
Personally I got a Yamaha Raider and def feel it should of been on this list. But I get it’s a personal opinion but glad to see this video 100%. Muscle cruisers are not for the faint of heart
My brother used to have a 2011 Diavel Carbon with complete termignoni exhaust and a remap! That thing was a death trap😂 I’ve never ridden another bike like that. It made my balls crawl into my stomach lol
My vote on this list is the Ducati Diavel. For some reason my BMW K1200R never falls under consideration with it's 0-60 in 2.6 sec. 163 HP, 10.5sec 1/4mile and 173mph tip speed. At least 200mile range. And it is reliable. Oh well, I'll keep it and keep on searching for a better (IMHO) power cruiser.
I think theoretically the most you'd ever see from that engine is around 200hp, but with some serious mods and by sacrificing a lot of that low end torque. It doesn't make a lot of power because it can't rev very high. It's essentially a car engine, you'll just never get it revving to 10k and making 150hp/l.
@@blakefarinas6170 lmfao!!!! You think the vmax runs 12s?????? Wow buddy. Nice. Gen 1 ran high 10s low 11s in 1985 stock. Gen 2 runs high 9s low 10s stock. And the last model rocket 3 is lucky to get mid 11s, this new one will probably be running high 10s maybe low 10s with a tune, and thats by professional riders, remember even the new model rocket 3 is over 700lbs.
@@blakefarinas6170 or were you referring to the diavel? Which in stock form does low to mid 10s in the 1/4 mile. And again the last rocket 3 model did mid 11s. And this new one probably midhigh 10s low 11s
My '05 Rocket with a long Super Trapped Predator header, Ramair intake, tune, Triumph full windshield, Triumph Long haul gel seat and backrest, Corbin Beatle bags, triumph rear rack, Kuryakin mirrors, foot boards, and pegs, replaced my sport bikes and my 1100cc drag bike. No it doesn't accelerate like the drag bike BUT I haven't been pulled on by much, it doesn't carve up canyons like the SV1K or esspessially the MuZ Skorpion Club Cup. BUT it'll hang with most street riders on their generic crotch rockets and drag pegs all day. I like it... 41 years racing and riding!!!.
Triumph Thunderbird Storm - 1700cc, Big Bore kit on the Thunderbird, strip off all the stuff that makes it comfortable, black out most of the chrome, put drag bars over the forks and a big fat rear tire on the back.... oh, and give it the Speed Triple headlights. Basically it's the Rocket III's little brother.
Great video! A cruiser in the giveaway might actually get me to buy a shirt! Great to hear someone that doesn’t hate on Harley’s on the channel. (Except the Livewire - everyone hates it.).
I am in love with the Bonneville bobber. It would be close to the least powerful bike on this list, but also would probably weigh the least. Around 80 hp and 80 foot pounds and about 500 pounds, but it is a real head turner and fast enough to have a lot of fun
Like you said, they're your favorites. The triumph would rule the roost if they used its potential. The Ducati does seem impressive. The Suzuki needs to be revised and ktm can probably come in here. Stock the v max has to be king though the rocket has more room for potential than the v max... its using everything it has and the triumph has another hundred horse lying dormant that can be accessed fairly easily.
In addition to the other requirements of a muscle bike the first thing that a muscle bike needs to have is MUSCLE (HP) and plenty of it. In 2020 I would think that a quarter mile time at least in the 10s is a requirement. That really restricts this category to currently only 3 bikes: the VMAX, the Diavel, and the Rocket 3. Sport bikes don't fall into this category because they are ... sport bikes. We applied the same criteria for muscle cars back in the 1960s. Unless the car could get into the low 14s for a quarter mile time then it wasn't a muscle car.
I'm glad to hear you say "foot Pounds of torque". That's what I heard it called when I first developed an interest in performance internal combustion engines in 1964. Until recently that's how everyone said it. I am sick of people on RUclips claiming the "correct" way to say it is "pound feet of torque". Look at the way it is abbreviated in spec sheets. 100 ft. lbs., 75 ft. lbs., 330 ft. lbs. You get what I'm getting at. And BTW what happened to Jammie J?
Gotta chime in here. The Rocket's engine is the biggest production motorcycle engine, not just the biggest triple. Also, you didn't mention the V-Max's descendant the MT-01. A proper suicide machine!
@@kkklll694 that's a Chevy car engine in a motorcycle frame, not a motorcycle engine. The Lazareth also uses a Maserati engine, and the Tomahawk was a concept by Dodge with a V10 Viper mill. There's even a crazy dude in Australia (where else)?) who made a single cylinder, 5-liter motorbike. But that's a one-off and not production.
@@kkklll694 it's a production bike using a car engine. It's not a production motorcycle engine. There are bigger bikes than the Rocket, even bigger production bikes. But they all use engines that are either custom-built, or not originally built for a motorcycle
Ehhhhhh it's nice, with plenty of room for mods, granted steep price for all mods. But every reviewer so far say the diavel seems faster, and the vmax is decisively faster than the diavel, that right there puts it at like #3 in my mind, which is a significant improvement.
9:32 @ Yamaha Roadstar Warrior. Has to be one of top 5 pound for pound lightest power cruiser. Not fast at 80hp and 100ft lbs of tq but an overall top ten quickest cruisers I bet. Only at a mere 650lbs wet weight stock. Remove stock exhaust and few tasteful aesthic and performance mods and you have a 635-640lb bike with over 100lbs of tq and 90+hp.
I have a2012 Thunderbird storm. She sports 1700cc with 115 ft.lbs. of torque at 2900rpms. Shaft drive. Added on a set of tors giving it a sweet sound . I'm kind of disappointed she wasn't one of your pics,but to each his own. Thanks for letting me interject.
So if you had to give up your sport bike for a cruiser which one would you get? That Vmax looks pretty sweet. Don't forget we're giving away bikes, so head over to yammienoob.co get entered!
Triumph Rocket Three hahaha
HD breakout sounds fun, idk
BOSS
I did I got vrod
Been there done that. I used to race in the 70s and 80s and in them days I would be wanting a crotch rocket. But I quit riding for a while as I got older waiting for my kids to grow up and then went back into bikes in 2007 but I wanted something fast but I didn't want a crotch rocket anymore so I ended up with a M109R and I've been totally pleased with it ever since
I’m a Harley guy through and through but, the VMAX is king!
I rode the vmax and the diavel. I like diavel ergonomics. Its so comfortable
@@williamwilkin1892 vmax is a recliner on 2 wheels and i ride the original
Gen 1 vmax never made 170hp. Engine hp was 145 with 125 to the wheel
@@williamwilkin1892 Yeah but the Vmax is quicker
@@MrThuggery okay. I'll take the looks and ergonomics.
Let me help you out son.
10- harley V-rod( still faster then anything HD makes)
9- yamaha Raider 1900
8- Honda VTX 1800
7-Honda V65 magna ( the OG)
6- Suzuki M109 Boss
5 - Honda Valkyrie or Rune
4- Motus MSTR ( not technically a cruiser but has the best engine of all)
3- Triumph rocket 3
2- Ducati Diavel
#1b- VMAX gen1 (dont ever forget it)
#1- Vmax Gen 2( incase you forgot)
I'd agree with this list.
Yams list is dumb. But that's why you shouldn't listen to someone whose only owned two bikes and crashed purely to see if he could learn a lesson
@@DS2951 hmm seems you follow his video closely despite your disapproval.
The gen 1 was a pure hooligans bike!
Much better list. Id probably have raider higher but definitely vmax number 1
@@Naptownstreetsquid True dat
Haven't finished watching yet, but the Yamaha VMAX better be on this list!!!
V-Max, the final step up.
I remember the first time I saw a V Max. I was 14, and saw a parked vehicle, it had two wheels, it had handle bars, but for some reason it took me a few seconds to realise it's a motorbike. I was in awe. I had never stared at anything for so long at that point in my life.
That's crazy the first time I saw the vmax I was 14 in 1985 and i couldn't stop looking at it the bike was so bad ass I didn't know what to make of it I was in shock I think.
I have an 1985 with 997 original miles and 2019 raven black gen 2. Both are stunning to look at and amazing to ride!
Yammie and Friends: "The Fat Bob 114 is the number one muscle cruiser.'
FXDR 114: "Am I a Joke to you?"
TBH yeah 😂
Thanks was just about to say that the FXDR 114 is one hell of a bike
LMFAO!!!! BARELY 13.5 Sec 1/4 mile..... naw it's laughably slow
But so is the fat Bob
Both rides, albeit they are great rides, are a far cry from true muscle.
Vmax hands down. It's my dream bike! Granted, I am very biased to V4's. I'm probably gonna pick up a V45 Magna/Saber as a stepping stone to get there. But some day....
Until you hit some twisties. The vmax fails there.
@@jimanders9971 who says everybody hits the twisties like a bat out of hell? Some people are perfectly fine with cruising and soaking in the views.
@@Dude13450 ok, enjoy your knitting.
@@jimanders9971 The Triumph will leave the Vmax in the dust in the twisties. But nothing beats a genuine sport bike with the pavement gets squirrelly.
@mudman6156 I wouldn't mind running a the rocket in twisties on my 2nd gen. The gen 1 on the other hand is a straight line bike
I really wish Honda would bring back the Magna. My favorite V4 ever made. Seeing a modern version would be amazing.
Got an old 1984 V65 Sabre no slouch !
The world really needs that bike!
I have a 93' model and its still hard to let her go
1985 v65 1100s here, Yes please. There is a reason Ducati is making nearly the same engine for its best bikes.
@@shivamgupta1412 Same here. Closer to impossible. It and my VTX 1800 sit at the front of the garage, as they get the most miles on them.
I’m happy with my 03 magna and 94 vmax, I love the v4 power and imo one of the best sounds of a motorcycle. I’m just happy seeing motorcycle riders riding, I don’t care who rides what at least they’re riding 👍🏍
Mr Slave2thegrind agreed, every time I’m on the magna I can’t find a Harley to compare notes lol.
@David Squibular cheap ain't cool and cool ain't cheap
Something about this makes me think all he did was look at the Rocket 3's stat sheet for a brief second then looked at the price tag and then made this video.
Wes McCauley I totally agree with you!😂
I have a rocket 3 GT and it's in last place yeh ok the amount of standard gizmos you get beats the competition especially HD and power and handling it's up there , really up there
@@johnwatson5930 I guess it depends what you are rating them on. This is his personal list. For me the Style, heritage, sound and character are just as important as performance, technology and handling. The feelings i get while riding the bikes. For this reason I also rank the Fat Bob at number 1. If we are ranking them on tech, gizmos and performance then obviously the Diavel and Rocket 3 are going to come out on top. In saying that, the Fat Bob handles quite well, just not when compared to a Diavel.
Oh yes! Thank you!
But V-Max is #1. No contest.
V-MAX IS THE KING OF POWER CRUISERS, COMMON SENSE.
I very much agree
Agreed, I love mine. I had a 00 twin cam HD and after that my vmax let me tell you what a huge difference in comfort and power. The first time I hit v boost I couldn’t believe the insane power difference between the two.
I agree
Depends On what you're seeking in your bike if pure raw power in a straight line is the only thing you want without anything else then yes vmax is the king of the muscle cruisers.
But my first impression riding one was horrible the bike handles like at ass.
It doesn't want to do anything besides riding straight which doesn't feel very stable doing so too and every turn the steering was heavy and unpleasant i thought i had a flat front tire.
Not in the million years, i would get a Vmax as my only bike or everyday bike.
It's horrible around town and you feel every pound of the bike if you going at slower speeds which is fatiguing and defeats the purpose of a cruiser in the first place.
To appreciate the bike you need very long country without too much hard twistys or going to a drag strip.
I prefer something like Diavel which is only slower than the Vmax in .0.4s in 1/4 mile but handles like at actually sportbike and can be ridden on the track and put superbikes to shame if you know what you're doing, While being very comfortable and easy to ride.
Pretty much the best all-around muscle cruiser and good at everything and master of nothing type of bike.
@@bkingtz1 Get vmax test ride and see for yourself the steering is heavy af and overall handling like ass!.
No i've never ridden Bking.
But i did rode hayabusa which is very close to a bking and handling was very nice specially for the bike it's size.
Bking is just a naked version of hayabusa so it must handle just as good.
My top Muscle cruisers STILL in production would be;
1.) The Yamaha Vmax 1700
2.) Triumph Rocket 3
3. Ducati Diavel
4.) Suzuki M109
5.) Indian Scout
An air cooled and/or oil cooled motorcycle would never make my list. If a manufacturer doesn’t want to design a modern liquid cooled engine with smooth reliable performance straight from the factory it shouldn’t imo be compared to brands that do.
I agree. Except… Vrod is liquid cooled should be at least top 3 on your list.
You mean like the original GSX1100R?
good order!
No one is buying this list unless someone was paid to give HD the nod at number 1. Everyone knows nothing beats the Yamaha V-Max!
..I was surprised when he said that the Diavel was the fastest bike on the list. The V-Max is a beast of a bike. I am looking to buy another bike, I already own a Rocket 111 and was thinking about the V-Max. Or go for another GSX1400. I'm a big bloke so need a big bike:) As for HD's....never!
I have a 2008 Suzuki B King which will smoke all of these. I’m wondering if this isn’t a joke!
@@rufus1346 The Vmax is faster than everything on that list from 0 to 60. 2.5 sec. I have a 2016 Vmax. Bought it new. It will exceed your expectations by 200%. The build quality is fantastic. First service is at 41,000 miles.
@@Jason-sz5zv
I am sure I read somewhere that the older ones are the fastest. Something to do with a power valve, or something like that:)
They are mad bikes, it is one I want some day for my bucket list.........
@@Jason-sz5zv My older brother had a V-Max.
He told me, "If you feel like punching out, get a V-Max. You'll punch out in a hurry."
I’ll keep my V-Max thank you, love that bike. I also have the Raider, it’s ok but I like it.
The Vmax is my next purchase. The 1900cc Roadliner and the raider are not bad either.
You are where I want to be in life lol I have the Raider and I love that bike one day I want to get a Vmax there both the greatest bikes in my opinion I couldn't pick between them
Triumph Rocket III, the new standard for the term Cruiser, hands down, both powerful and refined at the same time. Suzuki? Yo Yammie, the 80's wants their Katana back, and the rest of the Japanese Bikes!
In a quarter mile vmax will destroy everything on that list. That v4 low end tourqe and the v boost absolutely love my gen 1 vmax
Have a 04 and a 06 V-Max and love them.
Cool bike but I hear it corners like a clipper ship.
Fast is great, there is no doubt.
But a drag bike on the street sounds like it's lacking in the other departments.
But always kinda wanted one anyway.
I was hoping to see the Valkyrie, but still happy to see some cruiser love in the channel
Valkyries are a nice bike.
6 out of 6 exhaust Valkyrie is heaven to my ears! ❤️
The Valk is too sophisticated and polite and should never be considered "muscle". I love my Valk and like to think I'm enjoying the road with a magnificent Norse beauty, not riding on the back of John Cena or "The Rock". Eww!
I love my 2014 Valkyrie 💪
And the VTX1800 wich was one of the first muscle cruisers...
Spite is the man!! nice job pal. I cant believe the V-Max is so low on the list!
Love my 2014 Valkyrie, leaves most Harleys a the light, handles well and is bulletproof
a man with culture i see :D
Also love my '14 Valkyrie. She will rip your hands of the bars 0-60, and then you can put 200 miles on her fill up and feel like you can do another 200. Just an absolutely perfect bike...for me.
VTX 1800. I have a Stateline, I’m disappointed that they don’t have it in an 1800 version.
CRUISERS!!! Spite you are the man. Really so you sound so laid back and calm its exactly the voice one expects from someone who is into cruising. Keep up the good work team yam.
Well V max ....is the legend , was the legend , will be the legend
Hmmm super V Max
I never realized how squeeky yammie sounded till this video. Can u be the one to make videos on this channel from now on?
Great list and video, but everything I've read and watched says the VMAX is faster than the Ducati. At least in acceleration.
Every test you watch shows the vmax much faster. And about the same high end wen the speedo is unlocked on the vmax
@@seanbutler2291 The Diavel got a new engine a couple years ago. They're pretty much even on acceleration, maybe a bit more top speed on the Vmax.
@@BigUriel No same engine, they upped the CC's by like 50. They even say on their site. Biggest difference is reworked chassis, and chain rather than belt drive. And if u compare the old and current it's like a 3 hp difference. And the max was beating it by a decent amount. If anything, no the diavel would be better on high-end performance. And pretty much always lose light to light or in 1/4 mile. I'd be willing to bet that it's still not as fast as max. Keep in mind during upgrade time, the diavel runs 13:0:1. And the Vmax is running 11:3:1. On compression ratio. That means basically, the max is faster than the diavel stock. And not working as hard for it either. Youll get far more from your upgrades on a max
I have the devil and have ridden the Vmax to be honest at this level of holy shit it's alot more about the rider than the bike.
Acceleration is the one and only criterium to call a cruiser a power cruiser or muscle bike and the first gen V Max is still King....second gen has no equal and is untouchable. So place 1 and two should always go to Yamaha as long as no other bike is faster on the quarter mile.
my 2011 Fat Bob is a jack of all trades; forward pegs but has capacity to switch out to floor boards, added bags, removable backrest, dual disks up front, massive tires same size as the Road King, 96-in motor and six speed gets me to around 110 mph and does it right away, it just needed a swap on the handlebars to make it more comfortable for the long rides. only takes about 40 minutes to race from ABQ to Santa Fe, or can take a nice meandering ride with a little mama resting comfortable at your back, saddle bags stocked with a picnic. I'm happy with a strong all around bike.
I love my scout bobber! I think with exhaust and intake your about 115 hp 105 tq on a bike that barely weighs 500 lbs. And the sheer badass styling is the real breadwinner about it.
I have 3 Vmax's and I got to agree, love riding it full power and that rush of speed, is awesome, its hard to let go, much less give up. Damn, its so smooth and feels right, but it makes me smile!!! lol..They are right, fast as hell and fun!!
It depends on what's most important on your checklist: For INSANE power, comfort & supreme reliability, the 2 gen. V-MAX is unbeatable. For an air-cooled V-Twin that puts the Fat Bob to absolute SHAME for engineering & BADASS asthetics, I'd get a Victory Hammer. For a liquid-cooled Big Twin the SUZUKI M109R B.O.S.S.. For a unique looking torque monster I'd go with the new Rocket 3. For a Cruiser/Super Sport, the Diavel. But there's only one Muscle Cruiser (or any bike really) that gave me goosebumps just looking at it which meets my checklist- 1) liquid-cooled 2) plenty of power 3) badass beautiful 4) not high maintenance or over expensive parts 5) Unique as opposed to common 6) American V-Twin- #1; the HD V-ROD MUSCLE is KING in my cycle world!
His voice suits cruiser themed video than yammie's because it is, you know, heavier. While papa yam's voice reminds me more of 600cc gsx
Man I'm in love with the new rocket 3...
I have a Yamaha Raider and I wouldn’t trade it for anything on this list, sure some are faster but the raider is a torque beast for hauling my 340 pound ass around, very comfortable for tall riders, smooth as glass, a lot better looking than anything on the list and the handling is amazing for being 700+ pounds.
I have s Raider too. Totally Bad Ass Bike! Biggest engine Yamaha makes in what looks like a Custom cruiser/chopper.
I've had my vrod muscle for 9 years and every ride is as BA as the first. Thanks Spite for representing the cruisers.
Also, Spite, you need a clever rhyme name.
Definetly appreciate the list. I've owned a 2011 Victory Hammer (1700cc 250mm rear tire monster) that is a blast. Now I own a 2013 Yamaha Raider 1900 with a 245mm rear tire and it tears my arms off everytime. Really sad i didnt see either in your list. But who knows beauty is in the eye of the beholder. And I respect that.
dammit, looked up the bikes you mentioned...now I cant choose... all works of at indeed...
The raider could use another gear unlike the hammer that barley holds its top gear.
Love the sound of both of these animals
@@dimitripelser9577 having owned both...the hammer is pretty aggressive in a bad way compared to the Raider. The hammer feels like a heavy wannabe sport bike. The Raider feels like it doesn't give a fuck haha.
VMAX all the way
I’ll be happy to have a 125cc
That Drunk Guy my first bike used to be my brothers! It was a hyosung rx125! It was past on to me when I was 12! Learned to ride it off road only and after 4 years when I could finally get my license I took all my savings from birthdays and worked selling blackberry and iphone cases in school and family friends and bought myself a 2005 honda cb500f! I loved the bike and now I ride a 2016 kawasaki versys 1000 and a 2008 Harley Davidson Rocker C! I want my next bike to be a new BMW S1000XR. Slowly going for nicer bike, just got to work your way up
@@danielpassarelli4176 seriously you wont for more than about 2 days
@@keithsmith9889 My buddy has a Grom and he loves that lil fucker! But I got a 883 and its super hilarious to see a grom try to race...lmfao
Diff'rent spokes for diff'rent blokes. Me? I love the thrill of my 1600 BMW. But hey, if you like what you've got, you're good.
It is always humbling when reminded how fortunate we are for the luxuries we enjoy, thank you!
VMax would be my choice....corners like riding a sawhorse....but in a straight shot.....the ‘86 leaves even the newer versions “wanting” imo...great bike...was surprised to see your #1....much respect 👊🇺🇸👊
The 2020 VMAX is rated at 200hp and stops and corners unlike the old one.
Corners perfectly with a little drift.
From a classic Harley guy, thanks for showing real Harleys. Your a good man, unlike Yammie lol.
Probably every time Yammie see a comment that implies the TURBO BUSA is probably like:
-Ah, I teached them well.
That is because I have. 😉
@Crusader General KILLED :D
Not gunna lie nearly spilt my coffee when he said number 1 was the Fat bob. Im by no means a wealthy guy or a Harely fan boy for that matter. But when they unveiled it in late 2017 i went out of my way to get one, ended up getting 1 of the first 7 Harely Davidson Fat bobs to arrive into Scotland.
Highly recommend it, I commute on it Monday through Sunday in all weathers in both seasons here in Scotland Winter and June.
Im never getting rid of it.
Hellhammerhand I did the exact same I dropped my phone, didn’t even expect it on the list. Got mine brand new in 19, I will die with it.
Dude, dude, we got the same taste in bikes and cars!
And i juat rode the 2017 Vmax and what a beast that bike is .It pulls so.damn hard its almost scary to.hold it open for any long period of time
There are two for me , the V-Max and the Rocket Three ! The others I would put in a category of their own ! The V Max first only because it’s been around longer and will smoke the Rocket three in a drag race but not on a low speed roll on it top gear ! I have driven both and the Rocket Three handles much better !
M109R best muscle cruiser. Actually my first . I purchased it at 58 .I was totally blown away by how an torque. Looks everything about the bike said I'm the man.
tbh when i think about "power cruiser" the only 2 which come to my mind are Yamaha V-MAX and Ducati XDiavel. everything else is rubbish) Oh y, dat Harley @ 10:30 looks very cool actually. finally something modern looking, not avg cruiser for the guys who are in their late sixties.
Agreed. I personally cant stand the excessive use of chrome, antiquated head/signal lights and dinosaur anolog tach/speedometer that they slap on everything. Its quite unfortunate that i prefer foot forward controls. Literally the only reason why i walked away from the vmax. If kawasaki could release a vulcan S with a h2 engine and digital dash id be a happy camper. Had a 08 Meanstreak and was looking to replace it. The closest thing to it was a m109 and i felt like it was missing something. Didn't seem like a upgrade. Just more of the same. Modern amenities or bust.
I had a Diavel. I now have a Rocket 3, and I can absolutely confirm it is not rubbish. It’s absolutely epic.
Close. Gen 1 V-Max & gen 2 VMax!
I dont care how well it handles, I cant get past the looks of the Diavel. I think its an ugly bike. Doesn't know if it wants to be a cruiser or a sport bike.
Story of my life.. got to test ride Fat Bob and loved it… NO test rides for Vmax in my part of the world and managed to ride one a week later from a guy who had bought it previously.. and was blown away.. went back to HD to test ride Fat Bob one more time same day.. i felt it was too slow and just felt it was too light.. and then went and booked a VMAX right after that.. it was a no brainer.. they were priced similarly in 2018.. 3.5 yrs after.. Vmax biggest issue was fuel tank and not the safest feeling at the corners.. but it just feels great revving that throttle.. so VMAX all the way between them.
Sorry, Yammie, but a cruiser isn't a cruiser if your foot peg position is under your butt or behind it (creating an acute angle at your knees). Cruisers, in my lexicon, require that your feet be in front of your butt (creating an obtuse angle at your knees). So some of your selections don't qualify as cruisers to me.
Having said that, I owned a couple of power cruisers (what they were called when they were in production) that should've made your list, if it included past models: the mighty Honda Valkyrie. Now own a Honda VTX1800, which is also a torque monster.
Thanks for doin' what you do, bra.
@Cj Wouldn't do that to a cbr1000rr but for a lot of UJM's you could put forward pegs on them and they'd make great pseudo-cruisers. In my book though, pure cruisers are either standard/forward controls (never rear), and generate peak torque in the lower half of their rev range. The last part is the most important because you're not really cruising if you have to hammer it to get all your power.
That was Spite, not Yammie.
@Cj The ERGONOMICS of the rider determine the genre of a bike. I'm am ergo freak, not a foot freak. I stand by that criteria.
Your absolutely right, I dont even consider the diavel or vmax a true muscle cruiser. I use to own a vtx 1800 and it's a badass bike. Enjoy it man! It will leave 600's till about 80mph!
Agreed. I have a 2009 VMAX. It is definitely not a cruiser by the very criteria that you mention. It is a naked muscle bike. The foot position is not an arbitrary choice. Cruisers are feet-forward because the frame has been designed to keep the seat very low so that the rider can put his feet flat on the ground at a stop. This results in the foot controls having to be placed forward otherwise the rider's knees would be practically at chest-level with a standard foot position. The VMAX controls are in what used to be called the standard position with the feet behind the knees and the rider leaning slightly forward into the handlebars. This provides the best compromise between handling and comfort.
I had a M109R and currently ride a 2018 VMax. The 2 motorcycles arent even in the same class. At low speed (under 100mph), they are kind of similar, but at high speed the VMax turns into a sport bike. I am MUCH happier with the VMax.
Lmao the Vmax is faster than the Ducati and the Vrod. Hell i think the older vmax is still faster than the vrod...
It is, by a solid .5 secs in the 1/4 mile. Obviously depending on the rider
Older V-Max is nice if you can keep the gears in the trans.
I believe my 2006 Vmax is faster than the Ducati. The Vrod is actually number 6 at best of your 7. And the VMAX came out in 2009 not 7.
I got into bikes dreaming of getting a naked bike, a fast and agile monster of a bike. But then I rode a Suzuki Boulevard 650cc and a Honda rebel 500 during my motorcycle course and I just fell in love with the feeling of it. I have been riding my 1999 Honda Magna for a year now and although it's 'only' a 750cc, it is an absolute beast of a V4 and I couldn't be happier. Cruisers are a lot of fun and I haven't looked back ever since.
You aren't that bad, but nothing can replace the Papa Yam
MY FELLOW,MOTORCYCLE RIDER'S,WITH RESPECT TO ALL,OVER MANY YEARS I OWNED MANY MOTORCYCLES NOW & ALSO OF DIFFERENT STYLES & CATAGORIES,WHEN I MOUNT MY V-MAX & TURN THAT THROTTLE,MANY THING'S COURSE THRU MY MIND,HOW DO I CONTROL SUCH A MAD BEAST,IS THERE LIFE AFTER DEATH,I'M MY FLYING,I LOVE IT.THANK YOU ALL, KEEP THE RUBBER SIDE DOWN,SPAZZ.
Magna V65 the Sabre V65. Missed these two!
I know what you mean, but unfortunately they are no longer in production.
Most pleased to see cruiser content, muscle bikes in particular
Let the yam back on. Two harleys, a suzuki, and a victory? You lost your cred. there are ONLY 3 bruisers: VMax, Rocket, and Diavel. I’ve owned the latter two for 5+ years and ridden against harleys probably 50+ times. Never even ever close to the speed from a harley. fast FOR a harley maybe. So grab your bagger and flip flops all you want but 2 harleys atop the bruiser list is a mistake. Good try though.
Agreed I own a gen 1 and gen 2 vmax. And I feel like my 750 magna deserves to be on this list more than the fat Bob.
I’ve got to agree. My Rocket III leaves my brother-in-laws Harley in the dust.
What alternate reality are we in where 2 Harley's are "better" muscle cruisers than a Diavel?? 100% agree
Michael Pearson
Never heard of the Diavel before this video, but it looks to be a nice bike. Much nicer than Harley-Davidson
Sorry but based on feelings and bias I 100% agree with this list!! LOL! Seriously though I would have put the Diavel at #1, but you have to admit there's just something about that Fat Bob styling that is just so modern and muscular. It has to be the best styled muscle cruiser on the list for sure.
Just picked up a 2018 Fat Bob 107 yesterday and absolutely love it
Vmax, then diavel, then rocket 3, then 109, then maybe maybe a Harley. Is this a Harley commercial?
If you are taking into account style as well as performance then Harley Wins hands down imo. The Fat Bob might not be the fastest or the best handling on the list but for me it wins as an overal package.
@@StateOfMind63 I don’t like to rag on another mans bike but Harley has never been known for performance, in acceleration or handling. I’ve had many bikes including two Harleys. Old air cooled, push rod, heavy steel frame technology can’t run with modern performance. Compare an Indian Scout with a Sportster, eg..There’s no comparison in performance there really. But it’s enough power and handling for you so that’s fine. I give you the style though. But when everyone has the same style, how is it style anymore? Running with the herd is what Harley used to not stand for, and then Harley became popular. But enjoy your slow heavy STYLISH bike. 🙂
@@mikemccormick8115 The 2018 softtails are nothing like the old Dynas though. They dont vibrate anymore, they handle far better too and once you get going you hardly feel the weight. The Fat Bob is definitely not slow and this is coming from a former sports bike rider. It's not the fastest bike i've ridden but its plenty fast enough for its purpose. You're right about the Indian Scouts being superior to Sportsters but i definitely still prefer the New Fat Bob, its much torqier and much comfier.
I’m seriously loving these videos.
I've owned 2 VRODS 1 street rod VRSCR and then a night rod VRSCD both were 2006, I would smoke my son's ninja 636 until 118 mph. I liked them both maintenance was low & easy, now I own a 15 Diavel Carbon and what an awesome bike, night & day difference Harley could never compete, more comfortable to ride & throw around on the twisty roads and LOTS OF POWER.
Yeaaaah... if the Vmax 1700 isn't at the top of your list, there is no list. Mkay? Thanks for playin'.
I own a 2015 diavel carbon. It is fast as hell and just wants to go!. a beautifully terrifying experience.
Mine scares the crap out of me... oh my god I love it.
_"Don't worry about HP, you are on a Harley!"_
Haha. Nice!
Personally I got a Yamaha Raider and def feel it should of been on this list. But I get it’s a personal opinion but glad to see this video 100%. Muscle cruisers are not for the faint of heart
I've got a Yamaha Stryker, and even though it's a 1300, it'll always feel inferior to the Raider. I totally thought the Raider would be in the top 3
My brother used to have a 2011 Diavel Carbon with complete termignoni exhaust and a remap! That thing was a death trap😂 I’ve never ridden another bike like that. It made my balls crawl into my stomach lol
My balls stay home when I ride my VMax.......
My vote on this list is the Ducati Diavel. For some reason my BMW K1200R never falls under consideration with it's 0-60 in 2.6 sec. 163 HP, 10.5sec 1/4mile and 173mph tip speed. At least 200mile range. And it is reliable. Oh well, I'll keep it and keep on searching for a better (IMHO) power cruiser.
Aww no Yamaha warrior or raider but you got the vmax so can't complain to much
I love making old harley guys look bad on my XR1200...they always ask "is that a Harley?!"
Triumph rocket 3 TFC edition has 180hp. I am sure you can unlock a lot more performance from the rocket 3
I think theoretically the most you'd ever see from that engine is around 200hp, but with some serious mods and by sacrificing a lot of that low end torque.
It doesn't make a lot of power because it can't rev very high. It's essentially a car engine, you'll just never get it revving to 10k and making 150hp/l.
Saw a Fatbob with a Matte white and black color scheme. I instantly fell in love with it
Reverse the order of the list! And than its a good video....
Cole Leukuma : I was thinking the same thing.
Then?
I love my Honda VTX1800. It’s a torque beast !!
Vmax is faster than duc diablo according to.... everyone..lol .
Never herd anyone challenge that .
It's the fastest bike on this list
@@seanbutler2291 because the HP is higher? It runs a 12 second 1/4 mile where as the rocket 3 runs 10's
@@blakefarinas6170 lmfao!!!! You think the vmax runs 12s?????? Wow buddy. Nice. Gen 1 ran high 10s low 11s in 1985 stock. Gen 2 runs high 9s low 10s stock. And the last model rocket 3 is lucky to get mid 11s, this new one will probably be running high 10s maybe low 10s with a tune, and thats by professional riders, remember even the new model rocket 3 is over 700lbs.
@@blakefarinas6170 or were you referring to the diavel? Which in stock form does low to mid 10s in the 1/4 mile. And again the last rocket 3 model did mid 11s. And this new one probably midhigh 10s low 11s
@@seanbutler2291 actually the new rocket 3R is 650lbs the rocket 3GT is 653 and the rocket 3tfc is 636lbs
My '05 Rocket with a long Super Trapped Predator header, Ramair intake, tune, Triumph full windshield, Triumph Long haul gel seat and backrest, Corbin Beatle bags, triumph rear rack, Kuryakin mirrors, foot boards, and pegs, replaced my sport bikes and my 1100cc drag bike. No it doesn't accelerate like the drag bike BUT I haven't been pulled on by much, it doesn't carve up canyons like the SV1K or esspessially the MuZ Skorpion Club Cup.
BUT it'll hang with most street riders on their generic crotch rockets and drag pegs all day.
I like it... 41 years racing and riding!!!.
I will run anything on this list in a 1/8 mile with my Vmax. Anytime.
Me too with my 2015 Vmax
Triumph Thunderbird Storm - 1700cc, Big Bore kit on the Thunderbird, strip off all the stuff that makes it comfortable, black out most of the chrome, put drag bars over the forks and a big fat rear tire on the back.... oh, and give it the Speed Triple headlights. Basically it's the Rocket III's little brother.
Hmm I still like the F6C Valkyrie.
N3il Crox i got a 1998
Ya. This list was VIOD when he didnt have a Valkyrie on it. Gen1 or Gen 2.
Yeah a second gen Valk should’ve been in that list!.....
@@livefortwowheels Even a 1st gen would have been worthy. More so than the Harleys.
Great video! A cruiser in the giveaway might actually get me to buy a shirt! Great to hear someone that doesn’t hate on Harley’s on the channel. (Except the Livewire - everyone hates it.).
I am in love with the Bonneville bobber. It would be close to the least powerful bike on this list, but also would probably weigh the least. Around 80 hp and 80 foot pounds and about 500 pounds, but it is a real head turner and fast enough to have a lot of fun
Me may
Great video. Spot on pick for best cruiser bike. Bring more cruiser content. Please do a test ride on a Fat Bob
Like you said, they're your favorites.
The triumph would rule the roost if they used its potential.
The Ducati does seem impressive. The Suzuki needs to be revised and ktm can probably come in here.
Stock the v max has to be king though the rocket has more room for potential than the v max... its using everything it has and the triumph has another hundred horse lying dormant that can be accessed fairly easily.
My first real bike was a 85 honda v65 magna. Kinda fits the muscle bike category. It had more power than the honda helix i upgraded from.
In addition to the other requirements of a muscle bike the first thing that a muscle bike needs to have is MUSCLE (HP) and plenty of it. In 2020 I would think that a quarter mile time at least in the 10s is a requirement. That really restricts this category to currently only 3 bikes: the VMAX, the Diavel, and the Rocket 3. Sport bikes don't fall into this category because they are ... sport bikes. We applied the same criteria for muscle cars back in the 1960s. Unless the car could get into the low 14s for a quarter mile time then it wasn't a muscle car.
My suburban does low 14s
@@benjaminofuasia9236 Not in the 1960s. The requirements for a muscle car would be very different today.
Cant' agree with that Fatbob, but I like this guys approach. And honesty !
I'm glad to hear you say "foot Pounds of torque". That's what I heard it called when I first developed an interest in performance internal combustion engines in 1964. Until recently that's how everyone said it. I am sick of people on RUclips claiming the "correct" way to say it is "pound feet of torque". Look at the way it is abbreviated in spec sheets. 100 ft. lbs., 75 ft. lbs., 330 ft. lbs. You get what I'm getting at. And BTW what happened to Jammie J?
Really digging spike ,hope he sticks around
Also nice to have a cruiser /busa boi dynamic
Vmax is the fastest bike on the list it beats the ducati
Rocket 3 beats both of them. J/S
@@blakefarinas6170 no it dosnt
I'm a bit biased, but I owned a 2002 Warrior. Great handling, grip, and power. And yes, I still ride Yamaha today, an FZ-1.
Gotta chime in here. The Rocket's engine is the biggest production motorcycle engine, not just the biggest triple.
Also, you didn't mention the V-Max's descendant the MT-01. A proper suicide machine!
Just one thing boss hoss
@@kkklll694 that's a Chevy car engine in a motorcycle frame, not a motorcycle engine. The Lazareth also uses a Maserati engine, and the Tomahawk was a concept by Dodge with a V10 Viper mill. There's even a crazy dude in Australia (where else)?) who made a single cylinder, 5-liter motorbike. But that's a one-off and not production.
@@JCook-dx5pf i do know its a corvette engine but still they were production bikes
@@kkklll694 it's a production bike using a car engine. It's not a production motorcycle engine. There are bigger bikes than the Rocket, even bigger production bikes. But they all use engines that are either custom-built, or not originally built for a motorcycle
The mt01 is not it's decendant, there is nothing similar between them other than a v configured motor.
I got a Harley. Probably get smoked by all theese, but hey I didnt get a Harley to go fast. its a cruiser... and I love it.
VMax number four?! Oh well. He said lucky to get 100 miles a tank. Man I’m lucky to get 70. Rocket 3 is bad ass too. That also should be higher.
I have me a 2019 114 fatbob stage 2 and you were spot on. The torque will have you leaving your balls at the light upon take off.
Yammie you most pics of burnouts were of the yamaha warrior 1700 yet not on the list come on my dude lmao
I ride a warrior they are awesome!
Nice job guys, props for mentioning the Octane. Not many recognize it for what it is.
So can we get a Harley in the next giveaway?
Octane owner here, so glad you mentioned it! Doesn't get the attention it deserves
Obviously you have not ridden a Rocket 3. It has more than enough hp and the torque is insane. I own one and it is in a class of its own
Ehhhhhh it's nice, with plenty of room for mods, granted steep price for all mods. But every reviewer so far say the diavel seems faster, and the vmax is decisively faster than the diavel, that right there puts it at like #3 in my mind, which is a significant improvement.
Yeah the Fat Bob 114! I absolutely love that bike and hope to get one!
LordAnestis you will love it. But there expensive so look for a deal, well worth the money.
9:32 @ Yamaha Roadstar Warrior. Has to be one of top 5 pound for pound lightest power cruiser. Not fast at 80hp and 100ft lbs of tq but an overall top ten quickest cruisers I bet. Only at a mere 650lbs wet weight stock. Remove stock exhaust and few tasteful aesthic and performance mods and you have a 635-640lb bike with over 100lbs of tq and 90+hp.
I have a2012 Thunderbird storm. She sports 1700cc with 115 ft.lbs. of torque at 2900rpms. Shaft drive. Added on a set of tors giving it a sweet sound . I'm kind of disappointed she wasn't one of your pics,but to each his own. Thanks for letting me interject.