I dunno, Toriyama forgot that Super Saiyan 3 was a thing so maybe he also forgot Supreme Kai and Kibito were fused. People be forgetting things sometimes.
In the dragon ball super manga, Shin and Koibito defused using the namekian dragon balls and, in Daima, they defuse by being intentionally swallowed by Buu. Different timelines/story. I don't know...
There’s not really anything to make it NOT make sense though. At least not yet. We know it takes place after Kid Buu but before Super, there’s not much that happens in those 4 years anyway to make the rest of the timeline not cohesive, and since this is a project directly from Toriyama, it’s totally plausible to be the main timeline
i honestly think for some reason this series will be going into depth about how exactly super took place and what was the exact reason for it, once we get that detailed explanation i think this series is going to move past super and start a whole new chapter. these are just my thoughts ofc so take it with a grain of salt.
Trunks was born in age 766 according to the Chozenshu timeline. To be turning 9, the year would have to 775. We also know that Trunks is 8 during the Boo arc, and the earliest date in the Boo arc for the Chozenshu timeline is March 28 of 774. This is when Gohan enrolled in high school. This means Daima episode 1 takes place sometime between January 1, 775, and March 28, 775. Chozenshu also says Future Trunks warns Goku about androids in August of 764. Future Trunks says he will be born 2.5 years from then. 2.5 years from August would actually be February of Age 767. This would have him born 3 months before the androids arrived and contradict the Chozenshu dates. Now Future Trunks could just be a year younger than Present Trunks, but I think the intention is for them be the same, so Future Trunks must've meant 1.5 years from then he will be born. Since February fits well for both Trunks birth dates, I'm gonna place Daima in February of Age 775. Going back to the Chozenshuu timeline, we know Yamucha wished for people killed at the World Tournament to be revived in May 7. 774. Goku then stops them and Dende says in DBZ chapter 270 that they can use the other wishes later and the balls will only be stone for 4 months. This means Septemrber 7, is when they'd become usable again, and that's the date Chozenshu used to say the memories of Majin Boo were erased. Since they were we already stone for 4 months, the dragon balls would be stone for at least 8 months, or until May 7, 775. So this further cements that Daima takes place within the first few months of age 775.
That'd make the most sense actually! Still leaves plenty of room for however long Daima will last throughout Age 775 before we even get into things like the Yo Son Goku Special and eventually Super.
@@InnovativeJdawg Only Tarble is mentioned and not by name just mentioned as Vegetas brother who they havent met canon wise at all yet in Super.The idea of Bulmas birthday party is reused in kami no kami.
Personally I think they defused because the wish turned them 5 years old and shin and kibito weren’t fused then so I think it’s a get around them being fused in super. I bet the z warriors will eventually wish for everyone to be back to normal and that will cause shin and kibito to fuse once again
That's a good idea, but we unfortunately see the two of them defused in the very first episode of Daima before the wish is made, the one that turns them into kids. But the idea that they'll refuse at the end of the series might still be the case!
@@yycjrod4145 why would grand priest be the final villain. He’s too broken lol if he wanted too, he can end everything right now. It doesn’t make since
i disagree i think SUPER was a filler series and i do believe this new series will be the explanation of the end of buu saga and the reason for super and the continuation of the story line. jmo
To me it seems Daima takes place in a separate timeline from Super, So Beerus and others introduced there will not appear. As for placement, after Buus defeat, long before Uub appears.
@@godslayer8894 how? In super, Kai says they defuse from the help of namekians dragon balls(purunga) but in daima they say they defuse from help of buu
@@Tarantuladarkthat alone cannot determine that it is in a different timeline retcons happen all the time and it really isn't that much of an important detail they probably will fuse again at the end of the series anyways as there are rumors going around that some characters in daima are planned too appear in the future of super
i really think they are going to make it to where this series explains the end of buu saga and the super saga and hops over super to continue the story. i really do.
Timeline I have a question about the timeline with daima. Did goku already wish for buu to be reborn before daima? Or did that happen at the very end of Z that’s been mostly retconned ?
The wish to have Buu be reborn into Uub wasn’t necessarily made by Goku, at least not directly. He said he wanted him to be reborn into a good guy so they could fight again, and King Yemma was ultimately the one who made that happen as a sort of favor to Goku for all he’s done for the universe. We never see Yemma do this on screen though but to make Uub’s age make sense in both Super and the End of Z, it would’ve had to have been done before Daima
TBH I like the concept of Daima.... BUT dude just make daima as a movie will be much better like Part 1 and Part 2 movie. Because I just want to watch the continue of SUPER instead of this man..........
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Goku should be 38 in Daima. It's 1 year after Buu. Trunks said he was 9. Goku was 37 in the Buu saga since he was supposed to be 12 at the start of Dragonball.
Actually, when Gomah itraveling through warp sama, and is told earth is popular, warp sama says no it wasnt dabura and babidi... he says some one more recent, and Gomah figures its the kais' sister
@@richardmccormack84 All three are mentioned as recent travelers and that’s because Arinsu came shortly after them to collect the sample of Buu after Vegeta blew him up
@InnovativeJdawg yes, but if you listen to warp sama, after gomah says their names he says " no, dr arinsu", then gomah freaks out... only he said it must have been bibidi and dabura
@ He said this exact quote, “somebody else went there after them” implying it was in short succession. Granted, that short succession doesn’t have to mean like a week or anything like that. Could be longer.
I have an idea what if at the end of the show since shin’s siblings are a big threat and he knows the most about them shin and Kabito fuse again but when they get back home Majin Boo or Buu is asleep so they don’t get a chance and that’s why they’re still fused in battle of gods.
only reason daima exists is cause super isn't getting the numbers that they wanted. They probably think that goku being an adult makes it harder for most kids to resonate with him, most shounen MCs are teens and they all get crazy numbers.
Possible, but not likely the case as there’s nothing telling us that it’s NOT part of the main continuity, and furthermore, it’s a story that comes straight from Toriyama himself.
Is not that people want it to be an alternate story like GT is that the retconing makes it hard to connect to Super thus the only logical explanations are it being a side story like GT or it replacing Super as the true continuity making Super a side story unless later on some plot explains how it can fit in the main storyline prior to Super@@dm.3145
if daima is before super, then why don't people know about other universes in super? makes no sense. But that's just how dragonball always was :D with every filled plot hole there is a new one ^^
Yeah don’t think this is cannon to supper anymore. Yesterday I watched an eps where certain someone said that they came from universe 7s earth right in front of Goku, while in supper the z fighters were un aware of the multiple universes until Zeno showed up and now I find out that Vegeta went ss3 on this series while in super he had never achieved it.
@@DaFonse-l6o It’s canon. Daima is directly written by Toriyama himself and not to mention, we see and hear things from Super in the show such as the other Kaioshins. As for the other universe comment, it was only really said in front of Goku and we know he probably wasnt processing any of that. And for Vegeta, we never had any confirmation if he had it or not, it was always just implied that he never needed it, because SSJ3 was irrelevant at that point in the series.
@ no it’s not, even if Toriyama wrote it does no mean is canon to supper, it’s only canon to the dragon ball universe. 1. Goku learned about the multiple universes in Daima but in supper he didn’t know about it until champa arrived. 2. Vegeta super sayian 3 transformation, but vegeta in supper had not achieved this. 3. Future Trunks Zeno is not the same as Gokus Zeno, both main hand is the opposite and the other did not know who Goku is thus implying that although Zenos power is absolute he’s not the ruler of multiverses, this is the important part as this implies that there are many different Zenos and each with their own universes which implies multiverses thus allowing this company the freedom to do anything with dragon ball and hide behind the yes it’s cannon but it happened in this multiverse with this version of Goku and thus also allowing gt to be part of the dragon ball universe via multiverse as well. So even if the third reasoning may not happen, you can’t say daima is tied to supper as nothing about daima adds up to supper, specially vegetas super sayian 3.
Just because Vegeta has something doesn’t mean he has to use it. It’s like having a PS3 but you hardly turn it on because you have a PS5, a vastly more powerful console.
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This period of the series is a bit more confusing than it needs to be, but once you see how it all fits, it makes sense. It goes: Defeat of Kid Buu then a year later Daima takes place. 3 years after Daima is Battle of Gods / the start of Dragon Ball Super, and then End of Z is 10 years after the defeat of Kid Buu.
I dunno, Toriyama forgot that Super Saiyan 3 was a thing so maybe he also forgot Supreme Kai and Kibito were fused. People be forgetting things sometimes.
It’s possible
In the dragon ball super manga, Shin and Koibito defused using the namekian dragon balls and, in Daima, they defuse by being intentionally swallowed by Buu. Different timelines/story. I don't know...
@@PuppyThor2307 unless they refuse at some point in Daima
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@@threethousandbees7260 that’s what my conclusion was as well
Goddddd!!!! I was waiting for the Moro arc so bad that’s gonna take so long now 😭😭😭.
Hopefully it'll get announced soon!
This has to be an alternate timeline, makes ZERO sense otherwise.
There’s not really anything to make it NOT make sense though. At least not yet.
We know it takes place after Kid Buu but before Super, there’s not much that happens in those 4 years anyway to make the rest of the timeline not cohesive, and since this is a project directly from Toriyama, it’s totally plausible to be the main timeline
Odd that vegeta had the time to. Master ssj3 right after Z.. Or did he choose not to use Ssj3 in Z?
It takes place 6 months to a year after the Majin Buu Saga.
you are goated
I takes place 1 year after the majin boo arc
@@IvanAlonso-o2n Yep
GT, Super and Daima are all alternate timelines in my headcanon
Gt isn’t cannon don’t start this
@@KrisLaGrue-n1h I'll take GT over daima any day
@@surfengerm7903 fair point
@@KrisLaGrue-n1h GT is canon smartass
@@surfengerm7903 so tired of these trolls
i honestly think for some reason this series will be going into depth about how exactly super took place and what was the exact reason for it, once we get that detailed explanation i think this series is going to move past super and start a whole new chapter. these are just my thoughts ofc so take it with a grain of salt.
It’s certainly possible, there’s room for us to see some backstory on things to give us more clarification on certain events
This takes places BEFORE Super
@@1320nav That's honestly not a bad idea at all I wouldn't be mad if they went that route
Doesnt super folllw the manga?
It's awesome how daima is filling in the plot holes from the DBZ/super series. It leaves room for more content and caters to the whole fan base 👍
Trunks was born in age 766 according to the Chozenshu timeline. To be turning 9, the year would have to 775. We also know that Trunks is 8 during the Boo arc, and the earliest date in the Boo arc for the Chozenshu timeline is March 28 of 774. This is when Gohan enrolled in high school. This means Daima episode 1 takes place sometime between January 1, 775, and March 28, 775. Chozenshu also says Future Trunks warns Goku about androids in August of 764.
Future Trunks says he will be born 2.5 years from then. 2.5 years from August would actually be February of Age 767. This would have him born 3 months before the androids arrived and contradict the Chozenshu dates. Now Future Trunks could just be a year younger than Present Trunks, but I think the intention is for them be the same, so Future Trunks must've meant 1.5 years from then he will be born. Since February fits well for both Trunks birth dates, I'm gonna place Daima in February of Age 775.
Going back to the Chozenshuu timeline, we know Yamucha wished for people killed at the World Tournament to be revived in May 7. 774. Goku then stops them and Dende says in DBZ chapter 270 that they can use the other wishes later and the balls will only be stone for 4 months. This means Septemrber 7, is when they'd become usable again, and that's the date Chozenshu used to say the memories of Majin Boo were erased. Since they were we already stone for 4 months, the dragon balls would be stone for at least 8 months, or until May 7, 775. So this further cements that Daima takes place within the first few months of age 775.
That'd make the most sense actually! Still leaves plenty of room for however long Daima will last throughout Age 775 before we even get into things like the Yo Son Goku Special and eventually Super.
@@InnovativeJdawgThe special isnt canon.
@@Pollote56grueso the special and Tarble as a character are referenced in canon material like Battle of Gods
@@InnovativeJdawg Only Tarble is mentioned and not by name just mentioned as Vegetas brother who they havent met canon wise at all yet in Super.The idea of Bulmas birthday party is reused in kami no kami.
Personally I think they defused because the wish turned them 5 years old and shin and kibito weren’t fused then so I think it’s a get around them being fused in super. I bet the z warriors will eventually wish for everyone to be back to normal and that will cause shin and kibito to fuse once again
That's a good idea, but we unfortunately see the two of them defused in the very first episode of Daima before the wish is made, the one that turns them into kids. But the idea that they'll refuse at the end of the series might still be the case!
I don’t really wanna watch something before Super. Will probably skip this show then.
@@SEVENFLORES facts bro
So far, it's been pretty good
I dont think they are done with super. I think they are gonna make the grand priest the last villain and they are just playing the long game.
I don’t think they’re done with Super either. Daima is just another story we’re getting in the meantime to celebrate the series’ 40th anniversary
I don't think the grand priest will be a villan at all
@@yycjrod4145 why would grand priest be the final villain. He’s too broken lol if he wanted too, he can end everything right now. It doesn’t make since
@@johnnygarcia8627 agreed
i disagree i think SUPER was a filler series and i do believe this new series will be the explanation of the end of buu saga and the reason for super and the continuation of the story line. jmo
Can’t wait for episode 2
It's out already
Yeah it's out on Crunchyroll, good episode!
I wonder what will they do for dragon ball 50th
@@rexxe001 it’s out already! I need to pay more attention
To me it seems Daima takes place in a separate timeline from Super, So Beerus and others introduced there will not appear. As for placement, after Buus defeat, long before Uub appears.
It doesn't take place in a separate timeline
It is all apart of the main continuity
@@godslayer8894 how? In super, Kai says they defuse from the help of namekians dragon balls(purunga) but in daima they say they defuse from help of buu
@@Tarantuladarkthat alone cannot determine that it is in a different timeline retcons happen all the time and it really isn't that much of an important detail they probably will fuse again at the end of the series anyways as there are rumors going around that some characters in daima are planned too appear in the future of super
i really think they are going to make it to where this series explains the end of buu saga and the super saga and hops over super to continue the story. i really do.
Timeline
I have a question about the timeline with daima. Did goku already wish for buu to be reborn before daima? Or did that happen at the very end of Z that’s been mostly retconned ?
The wish to have Buu be reborn into Uub wasn’t necessarily made by Goku, at least not directly. He said he wanted him to be reborn into a good guy so they could fight again, and King Yemma was ultimately the one who made that happen as a sort of favor to Goku for all he’s done for the universe.
We never see Yemma do this on screen though but to make Uub’s age make sense in both Super and the End of Z, it would’ve had to have been done before Daima
@ thank you sm!!!! I honestly forgot about that and I couldn’t find the answer anywhere!
Can you add Daima to the chronilogical video please???
Of course! I’ll plan on doing an updated list once Daima wraps up, but it takes place after the defeat of Kid Buu
@@InnovativeJdawg Thanks dude!
TBH I like the concept of Daima.... BUT dude just make daima as a movie will be much better like Part 1 and Part 2 movie. Because I just want to watch the continue of SUPER instead of this man..........
@@louisevalentine44 same
Facts this is just wasting time. They could be animating super
I mean can we call the potara thing a ret-con? Nobody said that Vegeto de-fused because of the mortal time limit during the buu saga
The Vegito thing isn’t necessarily a retcon but the fact that Kaioshin fusions are permanent is a bit of a retcon
The english dubs will air theaters on 10, 11 and 12th of November apparently
@@dampnoodle Yep, I’m looking forward to it!
@@InnovativeJdawg me too 🥳
....after they wished for the ppl to forget about Boo...
Yeah, that happened before Daima.
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Goku should be 38 in Daima. It's 1 year after Buu. Trunks said he was 9. Goku was 37 in the Buu saga since he was supposed to be 12 at the start of Dragonball.
Actually, when Gomah itraveling through warp sama, and is told earth is popular, warp sama says no it wasnt dabura and babidi... he says some one more recent, and Gomah figures its the kais' sister
@@richardmccormack84 All three are mentioned as recent travelers and that’s because Arinsu came shortly after them to collect the sample of Buu after Vegeta blew him up
@InnovativeJdawg yes, but if you listen to warp sama, after gomah says their names he says " no, dr arinsu", then gomah freaks out... only he said it must have been bibidi and dabura
@ He said this exact quote, “somebody else went there after them” implying it was in short succession. Granted, that short succession doesn’t have to mean like a week or anything like that. Could be longer.
I have an idea what if at the end of the show since shin’s siblings are a big threat and he knows the most about them shin and Kabito fuse again but when they get back home Majin Boo or Buu is asleep so they don’t get a chance and that’s why they’re still fused in battle of gods.
That would make sense! I have a feeling we might see them refuse at some point
@@InnovativeJdawg thank you
They should add a super attack to sparkling zero using the gas buu possesses to defuse
Then again idk if he utilizes it in a weapon-type way
only reason daima exists is cause super isn't getting the numbers that they wanted. They probably think that goku being an adult makes it harder for most kids to resonate with him, most shounen MCs are teens and they all get crazy numbers.
Im gonna treat this series like that weird naruto spin off they made
or it could just be a split timeline like GT and Super
Possible, but not likely the case as there’s nothing telling us that it’s NOT part of the main continuity, and furthermore, it’s a story that comes straight from Toriyama himself.
Exactly god these people want to make it an alternative timeline so badd @@InnovativeJdawg
Is not that people want it to be an alternate story like GT is that the retconing makes it hard to connect to Super thus the only logical explanations are it being a side story like GT or it replacing Super as the true continuity making Super a side story unless later on some plot explains how it can fit in the main storyline prior to Super@@dm.3145
Seems similar to Dragonball GT?
It's very similar
So they canonized GT just to remake it? I think we just hit a full circle guys
if daima is before super, then why don't people know about other universes in super? makes no sense. But that's just how dragonball always was :D with every filled plot hole there is a new one ^^
The Demon Realm is still technically in Universe 7, it's not an entirely different universe, just a different realm IN that universe.
I didn’t see gohan once
Not yet, although he DID appear in the first episode’s introduction
Noooooo so that means Goku still dies. I was kinda hoping they were kinda rebooting DB so that Goku is alive again for a new generation of adventures.
Well, they weren't fused together as kids. So the wish olit them apart
They were defused before the wish was made, they’re both present at Trunks’ birthday party
Yeah don’t think this is cannon to supper anymore. Yesterday I watched an eps where certain someone said that they came from universe 7s earth right in front of Goku, while in supper the z fighters were un aware of the multiple universes until Zeno showed up and now I find out that Vegeta went ss3 on this series while in super he had never achieved it.
@@DaFonse-l6o It’s canon. Daima is directly written by Toriyama himself and not to mention, we see and hear things from Super in the show such as the other Kaioshins.
As for the other universe comment, it was only really said in front of Goku and we know he probably wasnt processing any of that. And for Vegeta, we never had any confirmation if he had it or not, it was always just implied that he never needed it, because SSJ3 was irrelevant at that point in the series.
@ no it’s not, even if Toriyama wrote it does no mean is canon to supper, it’s only canon to the dragon ball universe.
1. Goku learned about the multiple universes in Daima but in supper he didn’t know about it until champa arrived.
2. Vegeta super sayian 3 transformation, but vegeta in supper had not achieved this.
3. Future Trunks Zeno is not the same as Gokus Zeno, both main hand is the opposite and the other did not know who Goku is thus implying that although Zenos power is absolute he’s not the ruler of multiverses, this is the important part as this implies that there are many different Zenos and each with their own universes which implies multiverses thus allowing this company the freedom to do anything with dragon ball and hide behind the yes it’s cannon but it happened in this multiverse with this version of Goku and thus also allowing gt to be part of the dragon ball universe via multiverse as well.
So even if the third reasoning may not happen, you can’t say daima is tied to supper as nothing about daima adds up to supper, specially vegetas super sayian 3.
Just because Vegeta has something doesn’t mean he has to use it. It’s like having a PS3 but you hardly turn it on because you have a PS5, a vastly more powerful console.
@ vegeta implied in súper that he never achieved it. That’s not the same has having it and not using it.
Am i the only one that doesn't like this version?
Oh hell back to children ...ugh DB is over , i didnt watch this show for 20 years to restart.
Just going to watch reruns and the good 90s movies where they play music during the fights.
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This is confusion
This period of the series is a bit more confusing than it needs to be, but once you see how it all fits, it makes sense.
It goes: Defeat of Kid Buu then a year later Daima takes place. 3 years after Daima is Battle of Gods / the start of Dragon Ball Super, and then End of Z is 10 years after the defeat of Kid Buu.
so we gonna act like dragon ball GT never happened?
@@djohnson4465 Nobody is talking about GT though
it is INSANE they did the GT switch ime evil so im gona/// switch you to kids.... again..... mwhahaha. Plotline wtf japan??
it makes more sense that daima is the original sequel to db and therefore dbs is in another timeline
You need to quit trolling super is canon,this little baby series isn't
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