NBC 10 Legal Analyst provides insight into Karen Read murder trial
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- Опубликовано: 27 июн 2024
- NBC10 legal analyst Mark Dana explained the defense's stance after hearing the note.
"More often than not, in the vast majority of cases that means there is more people for the prosecution than then defendant. We just know this. And that’s why in this case the defense is saying they have deliberated enough because mistrial is a win for them,” Dana said.
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Sorry sir but it’s a Majority of Not Guilty. Reasonable doubt all over this case.
DID YOU CATCH THAT THE JURY INSTRUCTIONS WERE ACCUSING KAREN READ OF BEATING JOHN OKEEFE TO DEATH? AFTER HE REALIZES THE TAIL LIGHT KILLING HIM IS NOT GOING TO WORK HE ACCUSES HER AFTER NOT ONLY NOT PRESENTING ANY EVIDENCE SHE BEAT HIM, AND ARGUED WITH ANYONE SUGGESTING HE WAS BEATEN INSTEAD OF KILLED BY THE CAR, HE PRESENTS IN THE 2ND DEGREE MURDER CHARGE SHE BEAT HIM TO DEATH!!! LIKE WHY IS NO ONE TALKING ABOUT THAT?
does the mainstream media always get it wrong? Looks that way.
No you’re just chronically online
Ive never seen or heard of anyone mishandling evidence, possible contamination, and being friends with the possible suspects. This all causes reasonable doubt. 3 different possible timelines and all the rest just confirms possible doubt. This case was mishandled from the start.
Karen isn’t a schemer like Pam Smart in NH 1990
Why is it assumed that the majority jury opinion is for prosecution favor? It could be the other way around
Yes true
So guilty
This guy is not a physics major.
I think the jury doesn't want a verdict due to repercussions I believe it will be a mistrial
Everyone looking past trial it shows how corrupt our system is
You could be right. The Alberts have already attacked people in broad daylight.
The Judge should summons this guy to her chambers and find out how he knows there’s a minority, is someone feeding him information from the court house.
Well because you'd have to be an idiot whos into conspiracy theories to believe shes being FRAMED! LOL. LOOK AT HER. She looks like a psycho. No amount of makeup or hair dye can take that look away. She'd probably hit him while shes sober.
Looks like a dirty cop in the jury pool or related to a dirty cop.
DID YOU CATCH THAT THE JURY INSTRUCTIONS WERE ACCUSING KAREN READ OF BEATING JOHN OKEEFE TO DEATH? AFTER HE REALIZES THE TAIL LIGHT KILLING HIM IS NOT GOING TO WORK HE ACCUSES HER AFTER NOT ONLY NOT PRESENTING ANY EVIDENCE SHE BEAT HIM, AND ARGUED WITH ANYONE SUGGESTING HE WAS BEATEN INSTEAD OF KILLED BY THE CAR, HE PRESENTS IN THE 2ND DEGREE MURDER CHARGE SHE BEAT HIM TO DEATH!!! LIKE WHY IS NO ONE TALKING ABOUT THAT? I JUST DID A VIDEO OF THE INSTRUCTION TO JURY SAYING THAT NO WONDER THEY ARE CONFUSED!
The fact this even went to trial is an indictment of the Massachusetts school system. Even the legal expert in this video does not seem to understand the definition of reasonable doubt or burden of proof. The commonwealth could not even prove the victim was hit by a vehicle.
Just curious what this has to do with the school system…
@@MEshaoWords If all the people investigating this crime were better educated, they would have done a proper investigation and there would not be all these questions. Corrupt or incompetent, they made a big mess of everything.
Must be something in the watah
the school system ? Because the professor sucked down those 9 vodkas and got behind the wheel of a "7000lb" vehicle (no health issues there)...school system ???
@@SkinneyBoishe made a mess of John
@@barbaradodge1442 okay sure, maybe the school system does suck. But now comment on the MA criminal justice system.
Let me guess…you think it’s great?
These youtubers are purposefully trying to muddy up the waters.
The "expert" doesn't know what he is talking about. The minority (likely just one juror) wants to convict, and all the others have enough sense to see the mountains of reasonable doubt.
I agree. When he said “the minority believed the defense”. I thought. Majority has to be not guilty. There is maybe 1 or 2 hold outs for guilty imo
I believe the analyst. I think that she is guilty and if was a juror would vote so. Maybe not the murder charge, but all the lesser charges. No proof of cover up or fight.
DID YOU CATCH THAT THE JURY INSTRUCTIONS WERE ACCUSING KAREN READ OF BEATING JOHN OKEEFE TO DEATH? AFTER HE REALIZES THE TAIL LIGHT KILLING HIM IS NOT GOING TO WORK HE ACCUSES HER AFTER NOT ONLY NOT PRESENTING ANY EVIDENCE SHE BEAT HIM, AND ARGUED WITH ANYONE SUGGESTING HE WAS BEATEN INSTEAD OF KILLED BY THE CAR, HE PRESENTS IN THE 2ND DEGREE MURDER CHARGE SHE BEAT HIM TO DEATH!!! LIKE WHY IS NO ONE TALKING ABOUT THAT? I JUST DID A VIDEO OF THE INSTRUCTION TO JURY SAYING THAT NO WONDER THEY ARE CONFUSED!
@@Michbeachlover You don't need "proof" of a cover up or a fight. The prosecution has the burden of proving that Karen hit her boyfriend with her car. If there's indication that he MAY have died another way, that alone is reasonable doubt.
@@MichbeachloverAgreed. She hit him - if you honestly weight all the credible evidence against the nonsense.
He’s not privy to that information. He doesn’t know if it’s a minority of people on the jury feel she’s innocent. It could be they’re in the majority and one or two feel she’s guilty. So backup pro. And if he knows this is true then there’s a mole or the security guard inside the room leaked it.
Thanks to goons like Proctor we will most probably never know how O Keefe got killed.
I wish I didn’t agree w you. I’m still holding out a sliver of hope.
She's psychotic, she was hammered, she HIT HIM. Dont know whats so hard about that. You guys love your conspiracy theories. Remember when yall thought Kiely Rodni was murdered by her best friends!? LOL
That is the worst adviceever MINIORITY...persued by defence.then surprised of guilty??? wth is this man talking about😮
If a mistrial they just re try again at some point ... correct ?
Well just found out there is a police officer on the jury. I didn't catch if he is or was a police officer. He/she would be the hangup.
DID YOU CATCH THAT THE JURY INSTRUCTIONS WERE ACCUSING KAREN READ OF BEATING JOHN OKEEFE TO DEATH? AFTER HE REALIZES THE TAIL LIGHT KILLING HIM IS NOT GOING TO WORK HE ACCUSES HER AFTER NOT ONLY NOT PRESENTING ANY EVIDENCE SHE BEAT HIM, AND ARGUED WITH ANYONE SUGGESTING HE WAS BEATEN INSTEAD OF KILLED BY THE CAR, HE PRESENTS IN THE 2ND DEGREE MURDER CHARGE SHE BEAT HIM TO DEATH!!! LIKE WHY IS NO ONE TALKING ABOUT THAT? I JUST DID A VIDEO OF THE INSTRUCTION TO JURY SAYING THAT NO WONDER THEY ARE CONFUSED!
Not necessarily. Many cops hate bad ones.
What insight was provided? Lol
Jury has options to choose, but it its what it is.
Oh....the jury pressure
They could be considering a lesser charge
Karen is guilty of at least all the lesser charges. Not murder, but all the others. She was there, she was arguing with John, she left him, she said she hit him, she was still drunk, there is DNA match with tail light and hair that only matched John and his biological mother. No 20-30 people from emt, firefighter, police, friends are all going to conspire for this one woman, someone would talk and if it was a man in a fight, they could have claimed self defense when John was injured. Just because people have personal feelings of the witnesses, does not mean they commited a crime.
All the charges involve the Lexus SUV being the murder weapon/instrument of death though. The 3 highly experienced and accomplished ARCCA experts consulted by the DOJ, working independently but with overlap, all concluded that the Lexus was not the instrument of Officer O'Keefe's death. We heard from 2 of them. Dr Wolfe testified that Officer O'Keefe did not get his head wound from being struck by the tail-light nor did he get his arm injuries from being struck by the tail-light. Dr. Rentschler testified that Officer O'Keefe's injuries were not consistent with being struck by a vehicle.
They came armed with weights & measurements to prove their point about the kind of damage a 7,000 lb vehicle driven at 23-24mph would cause a human body -- damage that was absent from Officer O'Keefe's body from the neck down. His right arm had no bruising despite allegedly taking the force of the impact. No blunt force trauma to it. Even the MEs and the retired ER doc testified to that.
No pedestrian strike by a vehicle = no vehicular homicide & no vehicular manslaughter & no causing personal injury with a vehicle. To believe that Karen Read struck Officer O'Keefe with her Lexus is to "deny the science and the physics", to borrow Dr Rentschler's words on the stand.
The dna was found on the outside of the tail-light housing, not on the jagged edges or inside the housing; and the dna didn't come from blood. No skin or human tissue found either. Likely touch dna from a man who was practically living with Ms Read and had ridden in her car umpteen times. Could easily have touched the tail-light at any time he was at the rear of the Lexus, opening and closing the boot/truck, leaning against it, cleaning it, etc. When his dna got deposited no one knows. Same goes for the hair. Dna & hair poor evidence of a crime. Prosecution didn't prove the Lexus hit Officer O'Keefe, imo.
Dr. Wolfe also said the tail-light was not made of glass; and he said the glass pieces that were found on the bumper did not come from the tail-light. Separately, a police state lab forensic scientist testified that those glass pieces did not match the broken cocktail glass that was found near Officer O'Keefe's body. So how did those glass pieces get on the Lexus' bumper? ....Recall, MPS, between the regular troopers and their chief & the CERT team, claimed 47 pieces of tail-light were found. Dr Wolfe said he found the impact point on the tail-light which had caused it to shatter in the way it did, and he experimented to see what could have struck the tail-light to cause that shatter pattern. He found that a drinking glass hurled at 37 mph -- within the 30mph to 40 mph range at which a person could hurl a glass -- at the impact point shattered the -glass- tail-light in that pattern (and broke the glass as well).
Officer O'Keefe didn't do it -- aside from the broken drinking glass not matching the glass bits found on the bumper -- the Jan 29th, 2022 5.07am Meadows Avenue footage of the Lexus' tail-light with a piece missing shows that. The damage then was not extensive. .....Sgt Burrows of Dighton saw that tail-light that same afternoon and he testified it was cracked, missing a piece but not that damaged. ......But the crime scene photo that Trooper Joe Paul attached to his report -- which he testified was a true and accurate depiction of the tail-light that he saw in the Canton PD sally port in February -- showed a much larger area of damage.
Damage that could only have occurred when the Lexus was in police custody. So any argument about there allegedly being tail-light fragments from the Lexus on Officer O'Keefe's clothing has to factor in the testimony of Dr Wolfe and Sgt Burros and the 5.07am footage and the mystery broken bits of glass, and consider whether someone was indeed trying badly to frame Karen Read.
The commonwealth's OWN EXPERT witness proved Karen wasn't even there when THEY SAY the murder happened. Her phone was connecting to John's Wifi at 12:36am. Commonwealth says the murder happened at 12:45. You can't get form John's to the murder scene
Therefore, IMPOSSIBLE for Karen to have anything to do with it. The people in that house murdered John. And they're covering it up. And the MA state police are framing Karen.
@@pillettadoinswartsh4974 Hi, I don't mean to put words in your mouth. I think what you were trying to say in the last sentence of your first para is that it takes 6 minutes in good weather to drive from Fairview Rd to Meadow's Avenue; and Karen would have had to leave the Alberts by 12.30am, if not earlier, in order to be connecting with John's wi-fi at 12.36 as Trooper Nicholas Guarino testified.
ETA: Iirc from the closing, Prosecutor Lally pivoted to say Karen struck John at 12.30am when she left. Which leaves the testimonies of all those who said they saw the SUV between 12.30am and 12.45am at Fairview Rd dangling in the wind.
@@ruthx3346Hell yeah love the way you said it. I have people saying what about the car an the black box showing her car on an off. I tell them I have been working on vehicles now for 45yrs an own a shop now. The key cycles or ignition cycles are the same an will show how long either were on or off each time. It would not matter if the engine was off or running so the bs that troopers Paul was just a run around to confuse people. I have a 15,000 dollar snap on scanner that I use every day at work an it doesn't matter if it is key start or push start as any power is on acc or run it will log on an for how long. I would love to go 1 on 1 with him on the bs about that cause he would lose as soon as I pull up how that works in the scanner and records it every time an not I don't know why it would not have. The only reason why is because it was never on to record but the times it was turned on 😮 This showed me that her vehicle was in there custody an. Jackson proved that but his response was I don't know why it didn't record the time. Then Proctor change the time from when they picked up her SUV. This is nothing but protecting Colin because I believe between him an Higgins they went to far an beat John and had to cover there ass and every one is buddy buddy cops or friends.
Guilty. No doubt at all.
That's not a reasonable doubt.
All those were used up in the trial.
Say why you think she is an not just guilty.
NOT GUILTY COVER-UP
give your opinion in a suite and wala your an expert
How the hell does he know it was a minority of people that were persuaded by the defense. The polls I've seen have shown nearly 70% believing Karen is Innocent and framed and 19% felt it was still too soon for them to say! The majority believe she is innocent. Only a small percent believe the prosecution weak and preposterous case! Way beyond reasonable doubt! Rufkm?! 🙄
There's a plant!!!
The level of mutual respect and support among us is truly heartening, demonstrating the power of sisterhood and solidarity.💚
Not Guilty ! Karen Read is Innocent!
So guilty...
Who is this guy? Looks like another attic dweller.
That experts extreme ignorance really really annoys me! I can't believe he is throwing his own ignorant out of touch assumptions around.
Guilty 🤬 Murder 2
Interesting name you use.
MCI FRAMINGHAM Life / No Parole
Plant in the jury, for sure.
This is what happens when you load a jury with paranoid schizophrenics.💰💤💤💤
And the prosecution is allowed by the judge to present words out of context.💰💤💤💤
DID YOU CATCH THAT THE JURY INSTRUCTIONS WERE ACCUSING KAREN READ OF BEATING JOHN OKEEFE TO DEATH? AFTER HE REALIZES THE TAIL LIGHT KILLING HIM IS NOT GOING TO WORK HE ACCUSES HER AFTER NOT ONLY NOT PRESENTING ANY EVIDENCE SHE BEAT HIM, AND ARGUED WITH ANYONE SUGGESTING HE WAS BEATEN INSTEAD OF KILLED BY THE CAR, HE PRESENTS IN THE 2ND DEGREE MURDER CHARGE SHE BEAT HIM TO DEATH!!! LIKE WHY IS NO ONE TALKING ABOUT THAT? I JUST DID A VIDEO OF THE INSTRUCTION TO JURY SAYING THAT NO WONDER THEY ARE CONFUSED!
The longer this jury deliberates the better for the defendant
Not always
The spokesperson probably took all morning to write that eloquent note
Ot doesnt sound like they will change their mind
lol she walks like she's a superstar -- Karen Read it's not about you! The woman in the green shirt needs to get a grip!
Anyone who has ever been on a jury in a small town under circumstances like this knows what’s going on in that jury room. The Albert’s and others have been staring them down throughout and they know who they are.
She’s not looking so smug
But you are.
NOT GUILTY!!!!!!
Not guilty!!!!!!
So very very very/ GUILTY!
@@THORR-mh9pxI love it when you guys say guilty and don't back up why you think that.
Because alcohol was involve and everyone was drinking no one had the capacity to realize how dangerous of a situation around them was unfortunately the defendant made a bad decision to drive ,alcohol makes people vulnerable to so many things ✌️,
Heck the cops who investigated were probably still toasted from the night before.
Corrupt cops and prosecutors
No....she is so guilty 😔
@@THORR-mh9pxmore then 80% of people say not guilty an have reason why they think she is not. But not one of the people that think she is guilty can come up with a good reason why with out a reasonable doubt that she is. I watched all the trial all the way to the end an the last guys (independent) said no way he was hit by a vehicle so that sealed it for me as not guilty.
The main pcs of evidence are indisputable. No reasonable doubt there, no matter how the defense spins the unclear items. Guilty of the second charge.
Not guilty!
why put liars on? you lose all credibility
Because that is all they have 😅
The majority of Americans know she’s innocent and that this is a huge coverup.
Forcing their hand. Risky
1:22 I’m sorry MINORITY•??? Said who… disagree
Guilty 🤬 Murder 2
Common Sense
Where is your coming sense if you watched the same trial or maybe you should watch it again then come back with the truth clown.
Guilty
So very guilty 😔....
So guilty....
You must have a learning disorder😅
You are so wrong. God will convict you if your ignorance
@@eagr2023 She is so guilty.
@@eagr2023 NOT at all....
A miss trial does not mean Karen Read is free. A retrial will take place again
Nope. No way. This stink-burger of a case will never see a courtroom again. DA Morrissey is up for re-election soon. He knows he'll get kicked out if he re-tries this case.
Mistrial = Karen free for good.
So guilty....
Such an erudite comment. So full of facts and irrefutable arguments.
I don't know how long it took you to fashion your opinion, but it was obviously time well spent. You have enlightened all of us on the law and jurisprudence. Yours must be a mind of great consequence. Another Abraham Lincoln, dare I say. Clarence Darrow has nothing on you, sir!!!
So innocent. Prove us wrong with what makes you believe she is guilty.