How To Tell A Good Drummer From A Bad Drummer

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  • Опубликовано: 6 янв 2025

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  • @TTPDrums
    @TTPDrums 6 лет назад +2036

    More is more. Always play double kick. Especially at a wedding gig. In my experience, the bridesmaids have always enjoyed blast beats during 'brown eyed girl'.
    Never forget the 22" China cymbal. Play it at the same time as the snare to ensure your backbeat is strong.
    You can't do enough stick tricks. It's impossible.
    Experiment with time signatures. Try not to tell the band. It will ruin their enjoyment of the gig if they expect a sudden change from 4/4 to 11/16, but if you pull it off, you'll be getting asked to play with everyone.
    Just remember, if Vinnie can get away with it - so can you.

    • @notlikethisss
      @notlikethisss 6 лет назад +71

      This is the best thing I've ever read.

    • @beatlesrgear
      @beatlesrgear 6 лет назад +3

      ROFL!!!

    • @JoelHanleyJoelHanley
      @JoelHanleyJoelHanley 6 лет назад +66

      Did you give Lars Ulrich this advice?

    • @sjpallnighter6973
      @sjpallnighter6973 6 лет назад +27

      Ha ha! Love it! I laughed out loud when I read "bridesmaids have always enjoyed blast beats during 'brown eyed girl'.

    • @combyjames
      @combyjames 6 лет назад +1

      Bingo!!

  • @lonnieturnerii1874
    @lonnieturnerii1874 6 лет назад +640

    As the old saying goes, "Play the song, not the instrument." Sage advice.

    • @chinnamaduraikaranchinna1247
      @chinnamaduraikaranchinna1247 5 лет назад +1

      Lonnie Turner II m

    • @might_e
      @might_e 5 лет назад +5

      I wanted to like but I can’t bring myself to kill your 69 likes

    • @NZsaltz
      @NZsaltz 5 лет назад +15

      That's why I stopped being a drummer and started being a DJ.

    • @thedrearybrain
      @thedrearybrain 3 года назад

      Yes yes...

  • @jarridlucas2576
    @jarridlucas2576 6 лет назад +2471

    Based on that intro, I don’t think I’m good enough to be a bad drummer.

    • @soapybeats4111
      @soapybeats4111 6 лет назад +32

      It's just RLRLKK and six stroke roll filled bullshit with the beat from Tommy The Cat at the end. Anybody could play that dude

    • @denismay6011
      @denismay6011 6 лет назад +55

      Jarrid Lucas, Never put yourself down there will be plenty of Morons who'll do it for you. I played for a long time before I got to ill to do anything also for a long time. The best advice to give you is set up your Drums with a Headphone on a CD Player and play along with every kind of music you can. Listen to how you " sense/feel " music and get enough music theory lessons to be able to sight read charts. But most of all have fun with it.Cheers from Australia, Denis.

    • @jacksontsukahara3798
      @jacksontsukahara3798 6 лет назад +76

      Soapy Beats I literally cannot stand people like you. You think you’re so much better than everyone else, well guess what, not everyone is like you. Everyone is different with varying learning curves. The world doesn’t revolve around you.

    • @soapybeats4111
      @soapybeats4111 6 лет назад +22

      what the hell man? How am I a selfish asshole for saying that the complicated SOUNDING stuff he's playing is actually simple? How am I saying the world revolves around me in any way? He could learn all of that easily, and he was selling himself short

    • @nwordpassifyousub2303
      @nwordpassifyousub2303 6 лет назад +2

      Jarrid Lucas lol 😂

  • @phatsmitty
    @phatsmitty 6 лет назад +137

    "play to serve the song, serve the band" was my method of playing bass, it was well-received with musicians and friends. So refreshing to hear a drummer say the same thing.

    • @beatsbygoldie2383
      @beatsbygoldie2383 2 года назад +2

      Goes for any instrument really some genres like jazz or rock everyone wants to play loads of licks and fills. Less is more. Seen some bands where it’s like everyone’s fighting over each other and it just ends up shit

    • @Ваня-ь4м9ю
      @Ваня-ь4м9ю 10 месяцев назад +1

      I so agree with you, I’m also a bass musician

    • @spoonman4024
      @spoonman4024 8 месяцев назад +1

      This is super refreshing to hear. Took years to get friends of mine to see the importance of not using every opportunity to show-off your skills as good decision making.

  • @stantomas
    @stantomas 6 лет назад +448

    im a drummer for 50 yrs. it takes more "skill" to play in the pocket and make the music feel good than to play various "fills". id rather listen to a drummer in the pocket with zero fills all night long than anything else. its that sound that grabs you and your not sure why the band sounds so darn good....

    • @kylekenney1907
      @kylekenney1907 6 лет назад +14

      See I can respect and understand that, but what I look for it something complex and unique, or at least just unique. Tool is a prime example. Even when Danny is playing something simple he doesn't use rhythms from his other songs. Everything he does is unique, be it complex or otherwise.

    • @adhanda2017
      @adhanda2017 6 лет назад +2

      ruclips.net/video/ABXtWqmArUU/видео.html

    • @RustyWood
      @RustyWood 6 лет назад +3

      I agree

    • @nwest8274
      @nwest8274 6 лет назад +2

      ST: Right! Yes!

    • @pjeffries301
      @pjeffries301 6 лет назад +1

      Yep.

  • @danielwyatt1147
    @danielwyatt1147 6 лет назад +738

    This guy sounds like an Asian Arnold Schwarzenegger

  • @tasodionis2637
    @tasodionis2637 6 лет назад +241

    Drummer since 1984. The most important thing is keeping time
    Not slowing down or speeding up. Once you master that then you can waste your time twirling your sticks

    • @marcosfischer_
      @marcosfischer_ 5 лет назад +1

      Taso Dionis agreed

    • @Hypnotize4578
      @Hypnotize4578 4 года назад +1

      I have no interest in twirling sticks, but to keep it consistent.

    • @cra2cra226
      @cra2cra226 4 года назад +2

      Yep, I've heard (but have no evidence) that Charlie Watts is a human metronome. The story, IIRC, is that they could turn on the track and get him started and then they could turn off the track and he'd keep playing by himself and 2 or 3 minutes later when they turned the track back up he was still RIGHT ON the beat.

    • @txman276
      @txman276 4 года назад +4

      Can you go fix every Metallica album ever? Lars has no sense of time whatsoever.

    • @mohddalibinzali1165
      @mohddalibinzali1165 3 года назад +1

      Is it true that lars ulrich cant read music?

  • @owiseone1
    @owiseone1 6 лет назад +245

    Kind of sounds like transitional music from the show Pawn Stars. Or when they ask the trivia question, in between commercials.

    • @ultrakool
      @ultrakool 4 года назад +4

      it's got a missing persons vibe to it

    • @geoffreywood5808
      @geoffreywood5808 3 месяца назад

      It’s Abadan by Genesis. Phil Collins plays it pretty clean, adds some Tom fills in the chorus.

    • @geoffreywood5808
      @geoffreywood5808 3 месяца назад

      Abacab not Abadan. Finger slipped

  • @TH3SLEEPING
    @TH3SLEEPING 6 лет назад +1211

    Simplicity is sometimes the best

    • @SKARKIBANEZ
      @SKARKIBANEZ 6 лет назад +14

      ALWAYS ;)

    • @DINGDONGDANIEL3
      @DINGDONGDANIEL3 6 лет назад +25

      Sometimes not

    • @ChuckBarchuk
      @ChuckBarchuk 6 лет назад +44

      More often than not less is more. It does depend on the genre but I still find that something less complicated usually works better.

    • @countrylife04
      @countrylife04 6 лет назад

      The Sleeping most of the time

    • @AEarls1015
      @AEarls1015 6 лет назад +2

      I've learned that the hard way for sure.

  • @jimbeaux89
    @jimbeaux89 4 года назад +30

    This has always been a big challenge for me. I’ve always had to tendency to stuff unnecessary notes and fills, mostly for self gratification. I’ve been on a journey to serve the music, and not myself as you’ve stated in this video. Y’all do a great job! Great people, and great drummers!

  • @whanowa
    @whanowa 6 лет назад +127

    I don't know how anyone could misunderstand what he meant in his original video. The message was clear there.

    • @MrDragonitify
      @MrDragonitify 6 лет назад +9

      Just morons trying to justify overplaying lol yeah it was pretty clear, especially helpful for a drummers pov

  • @the_nautillus9176
    @the_nautillus9176 6 лет назад +55

    I consider myself a bad drummer but, hey, we can improve our skills by doing what?
    Exactly! By training and learning new tricks every day.

  • @bummerdrummer1902
    @bummerdrummer1902 6 лет назад +891

    Play the song, not the instrument.

    • @goncalobaia1574
      @goncalobaia1574 6 лет назад +21

      I Stole Your Waffles best way to describe a good drummer...or an instrumentist in general

    • @ayeaye2295
      @ayeaye2295 6 лет назад +12

      That's deep yo

    • @nuketube6888
      @nuketube6888 6 лет назад +8

      I want my waffles back

    • @aldrichabarabar8831
      @aldrichabarabar8831 6 лет назад +1

      hell yeah !

    • @kirsty9084
      @kirsty9084 6 лет назад +6

      Seriously illogical. Doesn't even make any sense in a inspirational way.

  • @mongoosemotive
    @mongoosemotive 2 года назад +1

    The best thing is seeing a drummer smiling while groovin always livin the best life

  • @scattabrayne
    @scattabrayne 6 лет назад +23

    Dude...you hit the nail on the head!!! I don't get it when drummers think they must do these outrageous fills and double kicking in almost every single song! Please keep delivering more videos! I love your philosophy about drumming!

    • @MarkQuick0411
      @MarkQuick0411 6 лет назад +1

      Too a certain degree I get wht he’s talking bout but can’t see eye to eye unfortunately
      I can agree to disagree with your statement sure you don’t need to have technical buddy rich chops we can only have so many Buddy Riches
      But that doesn’t mean you sacrifice your ambitions to “serve the Music”

  • @naitch5365
    @naitch5365 6 лет назад +32

    John Densmore from The Doors was a swing drummer, they played rock music, you can hear his style during their songs, I'd never in a million years tell him he was a bad drummer.

  • @DavidNwokoye
    @DavidNwokoye 6 лет назад +289

    How can u tell a good drummer from a bad drummer?
    The good drummer gets asked to be in a band.

    • @thereisnopandemic
      @thereisnopandemic 5 лет назад +10

      Not on Metallica case, he had money

    • @sameerkooliyat3044
      @sameerkooliyat3044 5 лет назад +3

      And the wrong bunk.

    • @ikon8275
      @ikon8275 5 лет назад +3

      @@sameerkooliyat3044 it was actually Kurt's bunk. Big tough guy on the internet, wishing death upon someone he doesn't even know.... Pathetic.

    • @cra2cra226
      @cra2cra226 4 года назад +3

      Alot of drummers get into bands. Good drummers remain in good bands and get good pay. Are you being paid to do what you love? - Good drummer.

    • @gregreece7489
      @gregreece7489 4 года назад +5

      @@ikon8275 who is kurt?

  • @lservis
    @lservis 6 лет назад +24

    I love the way this guy can switch lead hands and not miss a beat!

  • @hotpotato265
    @hotpotato265 6 лет назад +686

    If you listen closely to the background. You can heard Danny Carey laughing in 3/4 against the 4/4.

    • @AaronLevyDrums
      @AaronLevyDrums 6 лет назад +53

      Can't really hear him? Oh that's right, the new Tool record isn't out yet is it?

    • @hotpotato265
      @hotpotato265 6 лет назад +53

      Aaron Levy If you just do enough DMT, then you can transcend time and space. And I have to say, the new album is pretty dope. I am just waiting to have it in a form of matter.

    • @kylecurran6747
      @kylecurran6747 6 лет назад +29

      You can hear Thomas Pridgen laughing in 3/4 but clapping in 15/16

    • @nicholasoberry1010
      @nicholasoberry1010 6 лет назад +3

      Bravo everyone

    • @Gavin-hy2eh
      @Gavin-hy2eh 6 лет назад +18

      you can hear Mike Mangini walking in 19/16 while breathing in 17/8, phrased as a bar of 10/8 and a bar of 7/8 while humming with quintuplets

  • @echo1434
    @echo1434 6 лет назад +10

    Wow, you are a really solid drummer with a great feel and groove. And you are so right about "serving the song." This actually applies to all instruments - I wish more people understood this!

  • @chriscollins50
    @chriscollins50 6 лет назад +370

    Those drums are beautiful.

    • @andys3035
      @andys3035 6 лет назад +17

      I believe they are Mapex Saturn V. Some of the best sounding drums for their price range.

    • @GageDrums
      @GageDrums 6 лет назад +1

      Andy S you are correct sir

    • @OffTheRecordBandOTR
      @OffTheRecordBandOTR 6 лет назад

      Yup! They are the best buy for the buck!!! My kit is 12 years old and I would never, ever get rid of it!!!!!

    • @andys3035
      @andys3035 6 лет назад

      OffTheRecordBandOTR I have a Pearl Reference and would actually take the Mapex Saturn V's over my kit

    • @whormongrmuzik
      @whormongrmuzik 6 лет назад +6

      and the synth guitar is horrrrible.

  • @gregthegroove
    @gregthegroove 5 лет назад +5

    I love the sound of this kit. I think Drumeo has the best sounding drum recordings on RUclips. Always quality guys. Good job

  • @onurguneri_
    @onurguneri_ 6 лет назад +322

    do not overplay.

    • @morganserrano9219
      @morganserrano9219 6 лет назад +3

      well you can overplay, but when it's needed, see day in life-beatles

    • @BadRonald1
      @BadRonald1 6 лет назад +3

      True, That's because when he plays, he believes everything is about him.

    • @joemorford732
      @joemorford732 6 лет назад +1

      @motor78 did you listen to what he even said you play prog music you bring out the prog chops serve the music..... miss the point much???

    • @copperlineconnectors2455
      @copperlineconnectors2455 6 лет назад +1

      Joe Morford he doesn't understand, he is one on these that just plays senseless stuff at random. In his on little world, with no concept of what's going on musically. Waist of time!

    • @copperlineconnectors2455
      @copperlineconnectors2455 6 лет назад +2

      Motor78 Mike knows what he is doing with rundimental concepts, I doubt you do! There's a big difference between that and making senseless noise! And I would doubt you know the difference!

  • @Smitty503
    @Smitty503 7 месяцев назад +1

    one of my favorite drummers The Rev is known for bringing jazz/prog/heavy rock to metal

    • @TerrenceThorn
      @TerrenceThorn 5 месяцев назад

      James Owen Sullivan was one of the finest drummers I've ever heard and one of the most tasteful. We'll always miss you, Jimmy !

  • @flapjackson6077
    @flapjackson6077 2 года назад +9

    Totally agree! It’s harder to learn restraint than it is to learn those extraneous fills. Keep tempo, feel the groove, and let the fills be the occasional accent to the composition.

  • @krismichalsky
    @krismichalsky 6 лет назад +11

    I completely agree. I've played with too many drummers that are way over the top. Good job bro!!!

  • @RobRossi10
    @RobRossi10 6 лет назад +5

    Love it. Couldn't agree more. Whether you are playing drums, writing a tune, singing a tune, or guitar soloing over a tune, etc. - Always "yield to the song". It's there already. It's our job to get out of the way and let it through.

  • @DMDvideo10
    @DMDvideo10 6 лет назад +41

    Chops doesn't make a good drummer. First and utmost important skill is TIMING. Practice and play with a time piece until you can do it in your sleep. Make it sound natural. Second (like he says) play to the genre. You don't need Neil Peart chops in s a pop song or country song. Some of the best pop and country tunes have just a few choice fills. Just groove the crap out of it. Third know your instrument. Know how to set it up for the easiest playing, know how to care for it, tune it, clean it up and add the right accessories to enhance your sound. Lastly be yourself. We don't need clones of existing musicians. be the first person to do something or do it a unique way...

  • @nathanaeltsen8957
    @nathanaeltsen8957 6 лет назад +229

    Pork chops

  • @ClassicJukeboxBand
    @ClassicJukeboxBand 3 года назад +3

    The best drummers are the ones that can get the most possible amount of extra beats, strikes, fills and cymbal crashes in the shortest period of time.
    Here are some other helpful tips:
    Play as loud as you can. Especially in real small, echoey rooms.
    Be sure to play extremely fast whenever possible. Speed always adds energy to a song.
    Constantly change your beats. Add that variety, because the same beat gets boring after a while.
    Be sure to drink a lot, or get plenty of drugs in your system before playing. The old saying "I play better drunk or high" is true.
    Never take any criticism from you band mates or the audience. You are the drummer, and you know best.
    Try to play as many different fills and chops as you can. You want to show everybody possible how good you are.
    Never practice or prepare before playing a song or a gig. Half the fun is figuring out spontaneously what to play.
    Try to come up with a different drumbeat or style sometimes just before you play a song live. You will impress your band mates and the audience with your creativity.
    Never be consistent. Speed up, slow down, play loud, then quiet, skip a beat or go out of time, even during the same song. Variation is what makes you sound better.
    Make sure you have an attitude about your playing. Never take any crap from anybody. You are the professional drummer, and pros know what they are doing. Nobody is as qualified as you are in what your are doing...
    If you follow these steps, you will be inundated with more bands and gigs than you can handle...
    Maybe not...

  • @starchild692
    @starchild692 6 лет назад +62

    I used to overplay so much, I would turn any simple song into a mess, fills every 8 bars or so, too much double bass a not let the song breath and argue with fellow musicians about it but as time passed I was getting musically mature, I would record myself and listen then I realized I'm not at all what I was thinking I was ,not cool instead terrible. So to save time one needs to record himself playing and question what he's doing from a 3rd person perspective, does it sound right ? Would a professional drummer or my drum mentor play it that way ? If not then what I need to get rid of and what needs to be improved?

    • @alexd2227
      @alexd2227 6 лет назад +1

      Ouarem Cracken Great advice

    • @reinierweerts6923
      @reinierweerts6923 6 лет назад

      Seconded

    • @johnmarkalbores2695
      @johnmarkalbores2695 6 лет назад

      Agree.. but never put aside creativity.. but something that works with all other instruments..

    • @ChadMojito
      @ChadMojito 6 лет назад +2

      What I usually do is I keep it simple 75% of the time and overplay 1 bar out of 4. That way it's not "too much" but I still have enough creative freedom. Works for me

    • @coreysalerno833
      @coreysalerno833 5 лет назад

      Travis Barker- generational divide. He’s the only one that is godlike with it

  • @Five0Music
    @Five0Music 6 лет назад +2

    Best advice I have seen on RUclips. There's a time and a place for everything.

  • @Enoch.Stanford
    @Enoch.Stanford 6 лет назад +42

    I love drumeo , its just so awesome , I'm glad there is a channel for myself and my fellow drummers to enjoy

    • @DrumeoOfficial
      @DrumeoOfficial  6 лет назад +2

      We are very glad to have you. Thank you, friend!

  • @artsaenz9111
    @artsaenz9111 6 лет назад +10

    what he is saying is very correct I know it hurts but in my neck of the woods if you need to make some money as a professional drummer that is exactly
    the way to go

  • @matthewjames206
    @matthewjames206 6 лет назад +23

    So true. Always play what the song needs. Nothing more, nothing less.

    • @yuliy2377
      @yuliy2377 6 лет назад

      James Matthews that’s what makes a drummer like Ringo Starr so great!

    • @dirtysoul23
      @dirtysoul23 5 лет назад

      another good example is radiohead’s drummer

  • @NickGranville
    @NickGranville 6 лет назад +4

    The best drummers I’ve played with no one had to tell anyone they were good - they just did it and we all knew. Somethings were consistent between all of them e.g time, groove, sound, attitude etc

  • @davitoofficial7383
    @davitoofficial7383 6 лет назад +782

    Lol he said pop chop haha

    • @Cuzjudd
      @Cuzjudd 6 лет назад +1

      vito markos hahaha

    • @MrLennonson
      @MrLennonson 6 лет назад +23

      Pork chop

    • @tylerhofmann2309
      @tylerhofmann2309 6 лет назад +2

      Does this look like a pop chop and a rotisserie to you??

    • @ryuuzSd
      @ryuuzSd 6 лет назад +7

      for a moment it sounded like he was Chinese or something

    • @MrRugbyloosehead
      @MrRugbyloosehead 6 лет назад +8

      Pork Soda!

  • @Danfromoverthere
    @Danfromoverthere 5 лет назад +5

    Great video. Being in the pocket is more important than showing off. Every style has its beats and fills like you said

  • @19boro76
    @19boro76 6 лет назад +4

    Very good description, plain and simple when you play death metal play in 180-200 bpm and use metal chops, but when you play country music 'SERVE THE MUSIC and keep it simple', exellent man :) thumbs up

  • @denismay6011
    @denismay6011 6 лет назад +6

    I played drums for about 30 plus years before it was thought I had Motor Neurone Disease back in 2003 when I had to Retire from all work and drumming. It ended up being Spinal and Nervous System issues that has taken till this year before I am improving enough to want to play again. I always had a inbuilt " sense " of how a song went and I disagree with the statement of playing music to a genre. Listen to how you feel the music. I was never a perfect technical drummer but I turned up at practice with the band, kept off the Piss/Drugs when I played a Gig and was reliable. I think these are important personal targets for any drummer to be valued. Playing with Soul/Feeling beats being tech perfect any day.

  • @overthoughtandunderstated
    @overthoughtandunderstated 6 лет назад +69

    Serving the music means to do whats right for a particular moment in a particular song, and there are a million different ways to achieve that. It doesn't mean you have to serve the genre. In fact, that can restrict creativity. I think a lot of "metal" would be a hell of a lot better without blast beats and double kick.

    • @ShreddingDragon
      @ShreddingDragon 6 лет назад +6

      This ^ Serve the song parts, not "the genre".

    • @BladerPR
      @BladerPR 6 лет назад

      Iron Maidens drummer is a really good example of what you're talking about imo.

    • @peepongdingdong9208
      @peepongdingdong9208 6 лет назад

      GaimMadness Check out Gar Samuelson's work with Megadeth's first 2 records, Rattlehead is a good start. Also the 2018 kimb remix is great for hearing Gar's drum parts.

    • @zacharywoodroffe4434
      @zacharywoodroffe4434 6 лет назад

      A great example of metal without blast beats and overused double kick is Avenged Sevenfold's stuff. It's in There, but used sparingly. Listen to almost easy... he uses a Latin beat dining the verse!

  • @howtoteachscience
    @howtoteachscience 5 лет назад

    I have a learning drummers channel and this is the kind of title I detest, then I watched and you are so dead on! I wish all drummers knew this. You ARE good enough. And the only bad drummer is one who can't serve the song. Do right by your band and the music and you will do just fine!

  • @mdmorris112
    @mdmorris112 6 лет назад +11

    No better feeling in the world than resting on a Friday with some drumeo lessons!

    • @Cuzjudd
      @Cuzjudd 6 лет назад

      Michael Morris I can think of at least one better feeling

  • @juddaustin399
    @juddaustin399 6 лет назад

    Excellent advice. Serve the music - make it groove - first. fills and solos are just that. your number one priority is to support the band with a steady meter.

  • @LunyMilky
    @LunyMilky 6 лет назад +187

    yeah, I know that tune, it's called "Keep it simple" x') \m/

  • @mijuajua4820
    @mijuajua4820 4 года назад +3

    I am an almost 50 yo woman and after watching this I have this insane desire to learn to play the drums!🤷🏻‍♀️

    • @MU6AFA
      @MU6AFA 4 года назад

      then go for it . that all you need , a burning desire

  • @nicholassupino8775
    @nicholassupino8775 6 лет назад +3

    It's all about what works for the song. I leaned this the hard way at 13 when I had my first gig with my dad's band and way over played. My dad approached me after the show and said you know kind sometimes less is more... somtimes... be the thing the song needs... it's not the drum show... its the overall experience of sound. My dad is amazing!

    • @KandiKlover
      @KandiKlover Месяц назад

      Also boomer butt rock sucks.

  • @HaydesGrooves
    @HaydesGrooves 5 лет назад +1

    If you don't get a call back and find your not getting any work then you know you are a BAD drummer. Attitude adjustment needed. Groove Pays Bills!! Nice work Brandon. 100% with you!!

  • @Unibabble
    @Unibabble 6 лет назад +4

    It’s interesting that his extremely simple approach did not hide his obvious skill as a drummer. You can tell the guy can really play just by how he plays that straight beat.

  • @Jesse-cx4si
    @Jesse-cx4si 3 года назад

    When I watch drummer videos it’s like watching something in a foreign language. And yet, I still love it!

  • @bryanleigh6497
    @bryanleigh6497 6 лет назад +25

    Mitch Mitchell was very busy with Hendrix, played rock and blues like jazz. Only the bass was simple. There are no absolute rules, except for learners.

    • @sahandrums
      @sahandrums 3 года назад +1

      That's good haha. No Rules, except for leaners. =)

  • @antonioperez6718
    @antonioperez6718 6 лет назад +1

    I could have predicted so many delicate egos would be hurt by his Beatles video which was 100% correct. Serving the music is the role of EVERY musician on any instrument. The dudes who try to put "10 pounds of shit in a 2 pound bag" are the ones who really give drummers a bad name. Many of the best MUSICIANS i have ever known are fellow drummers, yet we constantly deal with the reputation that drummers just want to play flashy shit, can't hold time, can't read music, can't communicate like musicians etc, and sadly, its true so much of the time. Brandon makes one of the most important points a drummer can learn.

  • @gregtthomas
    @gregtthomas 6 лет назад +35

    How to tell a good drummer from a bad drummer? One Word: METER.

  • @vwdiver512
    @vwdiver512 22 дня назад

    FINALLY - A video that shows what drummers should do and not what makes them look good at the expense of the quality of the track. So glad to see this. It's not about how good you play to make yourself look a certain way... it's about whether you get called back for the next gig.

  • @BadRonald1
    @BadRonald1 6 лет назад +3

    Here is my take. If your in a R & B band and playing music to dance to, you definitely want to keep it straight on the 2 & 4. If your playing pop music you can get away with a little fill here and there but should be kept straight as well. Because it's about the pulse and the music.

  • @ClassicJukeboxBand
    @ClassicJukeboxBand 3 года назад +1

    Actually, if you really think about it, what kind of music you are playing will dictate what you do as a drummer.
    If you are playing cover songs, then yes this advice applies.
    But if you are writing songs, you have to do some experimentation possibly to come up with some fills that give the song a certain character.
    If you are in an improvisational band, like a jazz band, then some fills are part of the process.
    I do get the point this video is making though. He's talking about the mindless overplaying that many drummers do in an effort to show off their skills, and I agree...I have experienced that overplaying garbage that just ruins what would ordinarily be decent drummers too many times...

  • @accountisnotdeleted1063
    @accountisnotdeleted1063 3 года назад +6

    “How am I a good drummer?”
    IF I WAS A BAD DRUMMER, I WOULDN’T BE SITTIN’ HERE NOW WOULD I!?

  • @ionut.666
    @ionut.666 Год назад

    i keep coming back to this video once in a while, i love it so much!

  • @icevelvetzen
    @icevelvetzen 6 лет назад +5

    I actually thought that the “serving the drummer” example sounded awesome 👏

  • @jonathanreid507
    @jonathanreid507 6 лет назад

    He made a really valid point about how style of music you play determines your licks.

  • @trashboy9517
    @trashboy9517 6 лет назад +89

    I havent gotten to play my drums in a while since i am moving. I miss playing soo much

    • @mdmorris112
      @mdmorris112 6 лет назад +3

      Antonio Marin practice pads will suit you well!

    • @trashboy9517
      @trashboy9517 6 лет назад +7

      +Michael Morris Yea I have some but Its just not the same without my kit, lol :P

    • @behindthen0thing
      @behindthen0thing 6 лет назад +4

      Thanks for the information

    • @Eseckiels
      @Eseckiels 6 лет назад +4

      Antonio Marin I feel you. Pads in my opinion are just for technique but something is missing

    • @coopercurtis8502
      @coopercurtis8502 6 лет назад +3

      Yeah, I had a house fire, so it's been about four months since I've played, and it will probably be at least another two. Rip :(

  • @johniacona4832
    @johniacona4832 9 месяцев назад

    Outstanding advice to any drummer from beginner to professional!

  • @DogfaceJones1
    @DogfaceJones1 6 лет назад +27

    Awesome sims 3 soundtrack drum cover!

  • @FPInvention
    @FPInvention 3 года назад

    As a guitarist and musician for 10 years, I'm.finding it quite easy to pick up the drums and boy is it fun 😁

  • @jameschriss8664
    @jameschriss8664 6 лет назад +8

    Jerry Edmonton of Steppenwolf was the best. He is sorely missed. His chops and timing were impeccable.

  • @rickfrancen8786
    @rickfrancen8786 6 лет назад

    Pretty neat that you can switch your left hand/right hand on the snare within the song, back and forth. That certainly opens things up for possibilities. I've never seen that done before.

  • @bassesatta9235
    @bassesatta9235 6 лет назад +16

    this is why don henley is one of the most underrated drummers ever

    • @russellcrawford7453
      @russellcrawford7453 6 лет назад +1

      I've been the drummer since 1966 and I live in Dallas where Don Henley lives but I don't think he's a good drummer in any sense of the word, boring is more like it. Wish me luck on getting his autograph though

  • @howtodoitdude1662
    @howtodoitdude1662 6 лет назад

    This applies to all band musicians. It’s all about communicating, taking turns and supporting each member.

  • @RustyWood
    @RustyWood 6 лет назад +10

    There's a good reason The Beatles were and are the music phenomenon... they played all their instruments in a way that always best served that song!

    • @andriealinsangao613
      @andriealinsangao613 5 лет назад

      Correct!

    • @link2155
      @link2155 3 года назад

      you're goddamn right.

    • @thedrearybrain
      @thedrearybrain 3 года назад

      Ringo was the man.

    • @thedrearybrain
      @thedrearybrain 3 года назад

      Correction. Ringo IS the man

    • @steveross8326
      @steveross8326 6 месяцев назад

      A bass player friend once told me "It's not what you put in, it's what you leave out.......and you left some fantastic stuff out"...😂😂

  • @ikmaltobing_
    @ikmaltobing_ 5 лет назад

    I’m with you dude 🤟🏻

  • @chocolateguy8301
    @chocolateguy8301 4 года назад +6

    (intro plays)
    Me: that's sick, he's such a good drummer
    Him: That's an example of a bad drummer
    Me: O_O

  • @peterdelgiudice5559
    @peterdelgiudice5559 Год назад

    I’ve been playing drums for 40 years. You’re absolutely right.

  • @zeyy84
    @zeyy84 6 лет назад +12

    "Do not fix something that is not broken"
    Wow wise words

  • @pauloketch3991
    @pauloketch3991 6 лет назад

    A Clear cut approach that's truly elaborate !
    Tell us more off the world of Music .

  • @Baribrotzer
    @Baribrotzer 6 лет назад +12

    "This is a drummer playing for himself"
    OR, this is a drummer playing in the last verse, under the guitar solo, where the song needs that energy and excitement. He's not walking on the vocal because there is no vocal, he's not overplaying, he's kicking the song into high gear. Playing like that works fine, as long as you build up to it, put it where it's needed, and not where it isn't.

  • @averydavis4758
    @averydavis4758 6 лет назад

    It’s so great to finally see someone other than myself play open handed

  • @pasodeminick
    @pasodeminick 6 лет назад +4

    Silence is music too, you don't have to fill silence with unnecessary proof of being a fast "hit everything I have in tempo".
    Two drummers that master this (among many others): Omar Hakim and Stewart Copeland.

  • @johngrobson4899
    @johngrobson4899 Год назад

    Yr spot on Apply the Kiss principle and keep in the pocket 🥁🔥🥁

  • @itsmarius3778
    @itsmarius3778 5 лет назад +10

    Who else watched this because you are taking drum lessons?

  • @jetcitysinatra7300
    @jetcitysinatra7300 6 лет назад +1

    I was listening to the song you were playing and it reminded me of the Missing Persons and Men Without Hats. . .Great stuff by the way.

  • @Timliu92
    @Timliu92 6 лет назад +4

    Great video! Seriously, I cannot believe people are missing the point Brandon Khoo is making. It is NOT about playing only simple licks and ignoring the hard ones, but rather about identifying the appropriate tools and using them accordingly depending on the genre or style of music you are serving. This applies to not only drums, but all musical instruments as well.
    Sometimes, instrumentalists (and singers too, being a learning singer myself) forget to put the styles of the songs they are doing as a priority and instead try to cram in as many licks and notes as possible to sound impressive whether on stage or in the studio, often taking away the space and pauses in the mix (at worst, sometimes even the groove of the song) and ruining the music they are doing. Imagine inserting blast beats in a Rolling Stones tune, adding rapid fire Malmsteen sweep picking licks to the guitar solo of Something by The Beatles, or belting out Fly Me To The Moon at 10 instead of singing it in a conversational manner - unless you tailor those tunes to fit the intended style through which your licks will sound musically appropriate, those three cases will sound rather ridiculous and jarring.
    Hence, serve the music first, and use the chops to do so, not vice versa.

    • @docdoon
      @docdoon 6 лет назад

      Totally agree with you but his groove sounds awful in my professional opinion

  • @fireyourrocketts
    @fireyourrocketts 5 лет назад

    This is a wonderful video and you are an experienced drummer with very good chops. In my time as drummer for over 30 years I never cared for studying the instrument to be very proficient with chops; only those I was intending to play; like many years ago I used to play Tom Sawyer; I was them and still are obsessed with the concept that when we play a cover and covers is what I did mostly my whole time as drummer because I did not had the opportunity to record originals; if you shall play a cover of a famous song that was already recorded and people know it, unless it is a different arrangement of the same song, I try always to stay as close as the original as my ears allow me; means; no extra chops, no all over the place breaks, no rolls where it should be quarter notes etc. and so far I have about 40 videos of covers I used to do showing exactly this way of thinking applied to those performances; It is called CONCEPT, this is what you are explaining and it is true; a good drummer serves the music, not himself unless he is performing a solo; I was never a soloist drummer; that is not what I prepared myself to be; I wanted to play the tunes I liked, I did and I loved them and enjoyed them all as much as their original recording drummers did. Playing as a top 40 band drummer seems not that much but it makes you in time an expert in concept, especially if you play different styles and had to "copy" many different drummers to serve the job you are doing which in this case is bring to the audience a very similar copy of the song they already knew and enjoyed the way it was recorded. That is my opinion; there are people who agree and those who disagree; funny thing is the more experienced performer a drummer is the more difficult to keep it simple it is for him or her because certainly in one's head, there are all sort of combinations and ideas available to just show! In this regards, watch and learn from a master who immediately comes in mind, as an example; Vinnie Colaiuta! he can play any style and never be out of concept, ever! Thank you for this video! I subbed immediately.

  • @ParaBellum2024
    @ParaBellum2024 6 лет назад +15

    I know one or two drummers who would benefit from following this guy's advice. Technically great players, but when I pick up the phone, they're bottom of the list.

    • @DV-id6di
      @DV-id6di 4 года назад +1

      Legitimate. Right on lol

  • @bigrobntexas1720
    @bigrobntexas1720 6 лет назад

    Absolutely, Serve the Music, some drummers want to "shine" above,,, but the love of music makes the music "sound" pure ✌ Great Advice 👍👍👍🤘

  • @texasturner2313
    @texasturner2313 6 лет назад +4

    Agree 100%. Serve the music first.

  • @rushmanphotos
    @rushmanphotos 6 лет назад

    bro, you really hit the nail on the head. i am a bassist and one of the most annoying things is a drummer not paying attention to the genre, where the song is going and like you say - serving himself and adding fills not in the appropriate places. they don't understand the whole "pocket" concept. this is why I use MIDI drum tracks for demos which i don't have a problem with. i told one drummer i was working with "don't stupid yourself out of a job". he eventually did just that.

  • @MichaelSouhoka
    @MichaelSouhoka 6 лет назад +3

    Keeping time is more important than soloing.

  • @NorthWriter
    @NorthWriter 6 лет назад

    Ha ha. Love it. I saw the intro and was like, "Oh, great...what's THIS going to be all about?" So glad to hear what Brandon says about playing to the music. Dude is spot on.

  • @jods1
    @jods1 6 лет назад +7

    And that is why Ringo was the best drummer that ever lived. Maybe he wasn't the most technically proficient drummer around, but he understood the songs and had a philosophy, which elevated songs to their full potential. Drumming is not (just) about sound but also about silence as good composers know. Just as chopping potatoes the fastest doesn't make you the best chef so will playing the fastest or like a virtuoso not make you the best musician.

  • @cherigem
    @cherigem 5 лет назад +1

    Love your shirt!! I think your great!!🤘

  • @N3V2-Nevto
    @N3V2-Nevto 6 лет назад +11

    I remember this guy?
    I think I saw him at facebook telling everyone how you could identify a good drummer from a "show-off" drummer / bad drummer.
    Is he that guy?
    anyone can relate to what I'm saying? :)

    • @ReCharredSigh
      @ReCharredSigh 6 лет назад +4

      Yea i think he’s the same guy. He was using a beatles track and playing in a metal style to emphasize his point.

    • @autumn_of_thought
      @autumn_of_thought 6 лет назад

      WOW!!.. I was thinking the exact same thing while I was watching this video, freaking out by deja vu lol.
      Little research on THAT video I saw years ago (the one you mentioned), and it turns out he's indeed the same guy. His name is Brandon Khoo, here's the link ruclips.net/video/9oQsKRyihEA/видео.html

    • @666finnegan
      @666finnegan 6 лет назад

      Ya. That's when he was trying to say he was a better drummer than Ringo Starr by doing unnecessary fills and stick tricks in front of a bunch of school kids.

    • @LeeTong69
      @LeeTong69 5 лет назад

      Space Ghost Congratulations, you missed the point of the video dipshit

  • @bassie669
    @bassie669 6 лет назад +1

    Drummers should do what ever they want. Because of the simplicity music really sucks so many times. Lets activate be vital and do what ever we want. Bring me something new and give me a reason to sing along for ever.

  • @abhishekpeter580
    @abhishekpeter580 2 года назад +3

    Keep it simple, serve the music not yourself ! 👍 really informative.

  • @likesrush
    @likesrush Год назад +1

    One of my best friends is a bad drummer and another is good. The good drummer has loved the drums since he was little and I don't think he's even had a teacher. I was in band and had a teacher, practiced my butt off and I'm a bad drummer. It's complex why, when I have naturally loved playing drums, I wasn't allowed to because my mother was not just sick, she was pretending to be sick to manipulate those around her and she hated drums. My confidence was crushed every day. She'd just force me to listen to her insulting me and not talk back. Let's talk about the good drummer. His mother must have been a saint. A family of 2 rambunctious boys, one had a type of mental disorder I don't know the details but he played bass. But my point is that he lived, slept and ate drums. He made himself play because it was the funniest thing to do. He had a ton of energy but was patient as well. He still plays professionally in Austin Tx somewhere. The bad drummer is constantly smoking, weed, if possible. He drives drunk, lives with his mom and never helps her. She might be enabling him. Technically. He's always trying to get pills but most of all vodka, etc. U get the idea. His playing sounds like he has been taught and knows his rudiments but he plays everything like it's a flam. bass to snare, flam. A cymbal crash and Tom hit, flam. Nothing is on time, not exactly. It's good enough to get through the music but it doesn't make the hair on your arm stand up. The studio space next door has a really badass drummer. Knows everybody's stuff. When you hear him play difficult stuff with the same exactness of timing that he'll play a simple beat, I get goose bumps. He plays 8 hours a day like it's his life's dream to just be good. He's a good drummer. He can be placed in any room with egocentric guitarists and still lay down a fantastic best, tasteful and precise fills.... I've never heard him rush not even a little through a fill. He's like a smiley machine only creative. Every strike says something cool. But I agree with this guy too. A good drummer has to master every genre, and not mind if serving the song is boring, and it often is. That's my problem. If it's boring I go nuts inside and I'm not good enough to pull anything off. I picked up the bass and felt like my love for the beat can live in silence when I don't plug it in. I can play it as much as I want. I get compliments a lot and it makes me sad because I know I'm not playing to my actual level. I'm always playing something just a bit above my actual talent, so in my ear it sounds terrible. Why am I doing that? I'm thinking as I listen to a playback. It's the same with all the members of the band. First you do need to know all the ways your instrument can express things and be able to express a little more than that. That can take many years. Then learning to listen to music and hear how each member is expressing the song and then learn how to do that while the song is playing. To do this you've got to be able to play to a metronome and then to other drummers. I put a Rush song onscreen and tried to create a beat map. Peart actually speeds up and slows down. That's blasphemy to many but I'd say he did keep the tempo accurate. It just served the song that way. It doesn't sound right if that song is played to a metronome. That was a lot of work for me and that's what I got from it. If it sounds straight, it's good. Had he actually changed the tempo, that'd be really weird for Rush. Serving the music entails being able to play any genre. I never thought about it exactly like that. Nice video. I still want to play drums and mom died years ago. I should have played long ago. I decided somewhere inside that I don't care enough. A good drummer cares. I care about other things. It's sure nice to listen to musicians who care about music. Those are the good musicians.

  • @MarkyMarc413
    @MarkyMarc413 6 лет назад +3

    I go by what Neil Peart has said, and I paraphrase - K.I.S.S. = keep it simple stupid can lead to L.O.V.E. = leave out virtually everything.
    You can do exciting things within the song and within reason, but don't play so simply that it becomes a plain and boring groove for you.
    In my last band, I wrote my drum parts to fit the song but also keep myself entertained and challenged, and some songs were tough to play live, but when I got them right, it felt great!
    There's no reason you can't serve the song AND yourself!

  • @itwillbeokihope9792
    @itwillbeokihope9792 6 лет назад +2

    There’s the good drummer and then there’s me. That’s how I tell the difference.

  • @greatwhite61967
    @greatwhite61967 6 лет назад +3

    In my experience I've found that you just go for it & see what you can cook up & let the drummer/bassist et Al do their own thing...
    I get the whole serve the music but I could name many famous drummers who put themselves first & still served the music, Buddy Rich anyone...
    I don't believe in crystalised methods as they come off as zealots & I go more with Bruce Lee's mantra of serving everything by absorbing everything & letting your ongoing progression dictate what you do or do not in any given situation...
    Music is the same as anything in that you practice to become perfect but you must also give in to not being wooden & unable to adapt & change...
    I'm tired of these uploads of how someone is bad at something because they chose a certain route as it comes of as absolutism...
    I understand the fundamentals of what he's saying but for me anyway I'll go down a different road even if it sounds wrong, as I haven't fully explored that avenue & therefore why would I stop...
    One of my favourite bassist adopt this idea of no perfect way as like me he was self taught & would frequently do something on his fretless bass that didn't sound right & he did this to serve himself & the music, as sometimes you've got to break the mould to get to the inner goodness of what your creating & let's not forget that each time we do something constructively we are always creating, so for me i won't stick to a specific way of doing something but instead explore other avenues...
    It's our own uniqueness that makes one musician stick out from another in the same way as an actor or anyone in a field that is trying to create something will go their own way to stand out from the rest...
    What he's saying in this video would only apply to me if I was in a studio or specific band environment, so therefore I'd just be myself & that's truly expressing one's self to the highest level...
    It's up to each individual to say to themselves, Am I going to go down this route that so many have, only to find I've not changed for the better & that's why I don't believe in exact methods of performing on an instrument or expressing myself in a conversation...
    Each to Their Own is my philosophy in life & express yourself your way & not by what the given standards are for that particular time...
    ..... .....

  • @mikeysbestfriend6496
    @mikeysbestfriend6496 6 лет назад

    I’ve been preaching this for years. Thank you 🙏🏻

  • @eliahenry6282
    @eliahenry6282 6 лет назад +3

    There’s no such thing as a bad drummer!everyone has there own style!

  • @grahamtheempire2189
    @grahamtheempire2189 6 лет назад

    We had a drummer that played with us for a short while that was exactly like the first 20 seconds of this video. Hours of chopping and snapping to the grid later, we got a good "drummer". Don't miss those days.