Undisputed Qi La La Kungfu Victory Over Disputed Points: Kungfu vs Muay Thai
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- Опубликовано: 27 май 2024
- Qi La La had one of the most intense and entertaining matches against a Muay Thai guy. While sticking to Xinyi Liuhe in his Kungfu during the first two rounds, Qi La La eventually goes full wing chun blast in the third round. Despite clearly having the edge in all three rounds, the judges still gave the victory to Muay Thai guy. That just looks so bad, in my opinion. Please let us know what you saw and whether you agree with our commentary. Looking forward to discussing this match verdict.
Qi La La is a Wong Shun Leung lineage Wing Chun practitioner. He started training after seeing the Ip Man movies. After many years of testing his skills, he added Xinyi Liuhe Quan to his kungfu repertoire. Xinyi Liuhe Quan is a distinct and rare martial art, different from Xingyi, with origins in the Chinese military before being passed mostly among Hui communities. It emphasizes internal power, derived from relaxation and correct body alignment rather than brute force.
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Qi La La's corner angle: • 111戰· MPF06慕泰k1職業賽《戰鬼-...
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Timecodes:
0:00 Round One
3:24 Round Two
3:40 Great moment of Xinyi Liuhe
6:37 Round Three
9:42 Most epic end of round combos ever
10:01 More highlights
10:47 Unfair judges?
11:17 Final thoughts
11:52 Why we should share this - Спорт
Make sure to watch the match from Qi La La's angle too. it's in the description. I actually started the commentary using his footage, and maybe I'll put the alternative angle commentary on Fight Commentary Chats. In any case, I think we all need to figure out how this match was scored.
Also, 1:24 I said "superman kick" XDDD
qi lala not wing chun?now liu he quan?
He’s wing chun fused with xinyi liuhe, but probably more and more xylh dominant.
The low kick he is doing to the opponents legs is definitely a kick in Wing Chun.
He swept him off his feet several times already with that move.
lol how the hell did Qi LaLa lost? Clearly landed more hits, more aggression, swept the MT guy more times vs. him getting swept only once
PS: That was a robbery, Wing Chun is getting some serious practical redemption through that fighter and he deserved the W 💪 *OSU!*
Qi la la way more relaxed in his fighting. Using better angles. Clearly won. The judges are close minded, same way boxing judges would rob Emmanuel Augustus of his victories because of his style.
That is a good comparison
Dudes 200% correct. There is a boxer coming up in 2024 with Emanuels style and he's getting popular and judges finally respect the style. Maybe some da qi lala will be remembered as the trail blailzer we needed and not the hero tradition wanted . GO GET EM QI LALA
That shoooo-ryuuu-ken was so frickin awesome! That alone completely entertains me for the rest of the week. Absolutely legendary meme level move!
Judge's completely wrong there
The guy with the blue gloves was so chill. Made it look effortless.
Really good match up.
No matter what happens, everyone needs to show these guys some respect. People that have never done these kinds of fights cannot understand how hard it is to get into the ring and do these types of matches. A lot of people sit in front of their screens thinking “i can do that”, but they have no idea. This is why i always try to show them the proper respect.
why should you respect someone who's coach pays the judges ?
Wing chun does definitely have side kicks and it’s even in their forms
Yup. But i'm pretty sure that Traditional Wing Chun side kicks were meant to be used in other contexts.
Damn call the cops I just witnessed a robbery.
Interesting exchange at around 1:30 in the first round. I assume that was Wing Chun trapping, but looked like an Aikido blending movement you would see in the start of techniques like shomenuchi ikkyo. Also noticed some of the framing movements Qi Lala used as he closed are similar to how I set up clinches to get close and give myself a position and base of energy to work from when using Aikido against resistance. This was in the 3rd round.
Так то он и изучает Вин Чун. Никакого ограбления нет. А то что некоторые техники пересекаются между стилями, это обычное явление.
man he was so dominant i almost thought this shit was fixed..... but then his opponent wins? wild
Jerry: thanks for all the positivity and great content. Cool 🤓👍
Leg sweeps were beautiful
Qi La La should have won this one definitely
9:48 shoryuken!
Qi lala won and I agree jerry,wish he would cover his face, the Chun concept I learned was use the chain punches at head level to wedge out the punches coming at ones face! Gotta be soft and aggressive to make it work and he does do a nice job making it work at times
He aggressively hunts for a lot of both-hands-out offense and is so singleminded about it that he doesn't know how to blend in defense or cover while entering/exiting from those attacks.
I'm laughing all the time specially the shoryuken!!! 😂😂😂
So Nice
SHORYUKEN! 🔥 😁
@FightCommentary this a request for you . Please cover tenshin vs rodtang's match . Please tell me who has actually won . It is kinda confusing
That some Bs he won that fight. Qi la la won man.
Qi LaLa won solid!
Dude that is Qi la la best fight ever. He grew so much since i last saw him. He dominated that guy. That is BS he lost wtf is going on
🔥
QLL is clearly the winner of this match.
The organiser of this match is ...
Next Time he will train more to Knock Out them
Sho-ryu-ken 9:47
Terrible decision. Justice for Qi La La!!! (but still amazing fight and probably the best wing Chun display I have seen)
100% agree.
9:31 Str8 up Street Fighter IRL
Qi la la got robbed ! That shenryuken was magnificent 🫡
Wing chun has side kicks
Fŕont kicks etc
Hooks as well
But most clubs only really promote chain punching
Sticking hands is a specific training method
Its not a combat drill
Over focusing on sticky hands is
Like a mma fighter only practising
Break falls
I guess it depends on how it was scored. Both were pretty open and ate constant punches. If it is scored by taps to the face it's hard to say. If it's scored by sense of control and cool technique then you are right.
And footsweeps you forgot that one.
The referees are either blind or jealous at Qilala's abilities.
QiLaLa won
Rigged lol
What a freaking robbery. There's no way on Earth Qi La La lost that.
I always figured Lala was a nickname but that his surname was Qi. Didn't know his name was Chen Zhiguang.
maybe he got a point deduction or somthing? i saw the ref giving him warnings for using his forearm to frame in the clinch
I’ll ask him soon
Wing Chun got its side kick in the wooden dummy trainin.
Qi la la won that
That was nonsense, Qi La La clearly controlled the entire match.
I think the problem is a major bias against wing chun trapping. They refuse to see any strike thrown from a very close quarter distance as a point and most WC strikes are only partially chambered so the result is he pays a point penalty.
I’ve seen it many times
When I watched this, I was dumbfounded. It's such a shame. People don't understand how good Qi La La's striking is even at the elite level, and it's underappreciated because of shit like this.
A wing chan guy won bro
Cardio sucks when you're a smoker. Of course, tons of athletes smoke especially in Asia.
I think the judges just got pissed with Qi La La's seemingly nonchalant demeanor and keeping his hands down. That's some boomer shit right there.
why are you saying that when qi la la switched to more wing chun tecniques got worse? When he got caught with opponent's tee he was executing a circular kick, definitely not wing chun style. During the rest of the fight he stayed very square (typical wing chun stance) and i saw a lot of blocks with hands that are tipical of wing chun. Also sweeps, launched from squared position. The final result is an insult and a robbery.
Man Qi la la got robbed hard. I aint ever seen somthing this bad since forman and briggs and that.....THAT WAS A REDICULUS DECISION!
his body language suggests to me the hands down stuff was a bit of an ego thing, he seemed to not have a very high regard for his opponent's skill so he was showboating a bit with that super lazy defense. i could be wrong.
glasses look great bro
so at the end he start with kung fu but end doing almost just muaythai so why not just do the combat system that work in the first time
if he just start with muaythai from the beggining he would be even a better fighter but waste time doing something else that dont work
when will this channel learn that the style is the format is the style. Therefore, this is not kung fu nor muay thai - it is whatever kind of kickboxing this rule set is. The fighters have their own training method and backgrounds just like anyone else would.
This was a rigged match, idk what opium the judges are smokin' or if the promotions are ran by Triad because of gambling or wtf.
I've noticed there has been quite a few really blatantly bad decisions by judges in Chinese promotions.
That's BS! Qi La La won that!
NO disrespect to the Chinese from China and Hong Kong, but they just don't have that savage in them. if they did, they could become very good fighters. but they just so lack that killer in them.
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Aite imma put this simply.
Killers get killed by people who play.
E.g.
Anderson Silva
Lyoto Machida
Wonderboy
'killer in them' only matters where both people unskilled or untested. Neither of which you should be fighting.
Unskilled person, there is no point. You aren't testing yourself.
Untested fighter, is too reluctant to punch and sheds it when they test themselves.
'killer' only counts for the latter, someone reckless enough to hurt another without caring.
Gives them a one up in amateur competitions because their mindset is just a bit more competitive than others.
This falls off, fast.
Unsurprisingly, having that 'killer' is detrimental unless your skill is higher.
That 'killer' makes you unwilling to learn. Stiffens your reactions. Too linear focussed to really grapple. Too twitchy to think and adjust to opponents.
The myth of a 'killer' or a 'savage' mindset alone being a key determinant in fighting, is something only a person who hasn't fought enough, could say
you're entitled to your opinion. but you sound like a spectator/fan boy more than a fighter yourself.
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@@championboy4782 MMA nor profesional combat sports fighting is the end all and be all of martial combat. i truly dout you understand that savage mind, and K*ller intent to hurt people. i know and run with people who enjoy putting it on people. so, also, i can't agree or disagree with a TROLL who hides behind a TROLL youtube account.
i have to agree with hung, you sould like an armchair warrior, mouth boxer, keyboard know it all. but you hide behind you troll account cause you know you're not what you fake yourself to be.@@championboy4782
@@championboy4782 well said. I agree. Just "wishing" your opponent to be defeated is just wishful thinking. Your actual competence to defeat him is what matters.
Qi la la got robbed
Most definitely a rigged fight. No other explanation would make sense. Infuriating.
I still want to fight qi lala. That Muay that guy was novice level. He looked more like kickboxing. Rushing in with punches, no set ups and clinch game nonexistent
Well there are no elite competives of wing chun anyway so its fair they are both in same level
He lost to a Muy Thai hobbyist?
A kungfu hobbyist (qi la la) was given an unfair loss to a Muay Thai hobbyist (dyed hair dude).
As author of this video said, they both are hobbyists so its fair match
anyone who's saying he got robbed clearly doesn't see how many punches to the head he ate.
he needs to work on his head movement bro. eating punches & act tough aren't gonna make you win
but he landed SO many more clean strikes and sweeps. not even close
He ate so little shots at the head, he instead hit the other guy with many power shots. Did you watch the same video as the rest of us? How blind can someone be.
你到底哪隻眼睛看我頭部吃多少拳我很好奇
Are you one of the judges in this match that robbed him?🤓😆😅😂🤣