I have $5 taken from every paycheck going to them. They hold a personal importance to me because I have nf1 and my daughter has it too, so it's great importance to me. No child should go thru that!
Agreed, one of the best part of the series is the integration of bending in people's lives even outside of combat, like the mail system in Omashu, the lightning bending in factories and metal bending in art.
IMO, the distinction of the swampbenders and sandbenders from more standard water and earthbenders was almost completely superfluous. Aside from characters like Yu, they barely utilize any sort of unique styles or abilities than any common bender of that respective element could.
I took Lin’s side during that whole show down when she was a young officer and her sister was a criminal. Lin did her job and I hate how Toph chewed Lin out when she really should have reserved her anger/irritation strictly for Suyin. Toph let Suyin run wild and commit crime. It was up to Lin to stop her and Toph reprimanded Lin for doing what Toph herself should have done.
Bruh your not understanding Lin didn’t talk to suyin and toph for years while suyin and toph already worked everything out years prior to Lin finnaly even trying anything in the end she was just being stubborn
@@zeynepyakt6342 I mean, they tried talking to her. Su does say she tried to reach out. I don't think Lin was in the wrong 30 years ago, but holding on to that grudge and refusing any chance for closure etc is on her.
Wigshots boom boom trauma affects people differently no matter how tough they seem on the outside. At the end of the day, Lin is reminded that her own sister scarred her every time she looks in the mirror. Psychologically that’s gotta take its toll and I don’t blame her for not wanting to talk to her sister or mother for so long, but hey that’s just cause sim dealing with similar stuff in therapy right now so I don’t know
Btw who ever said that “meelo is better comic relief then sokka and momo” you are an infant. Meelo’s comic relief comes from farts = funny, while sokka’s jokes come from the situation that he is present in and then executes his joke. Also momo’s comic relief comes from him being a animal and a thief and the strange Situations that he gets put in.
I think he meant that as in “Sokka is even worse than Meelo” because most of his jokes are still quite immature and slightly offensive, plus his voice is pretty spazzy and annoying too. Like in the middle of the climactic, serious battle between Aang and Ozai, he goes, *“gO aAnG!1! AiRbEndInG sLiCe!1!1!”* I must admit he isn’t *as much* of a necessary character in ATLA as the rest (in terms of plot he still is pretty requisite) but he isn’t a terrible character. I do still think it’s better than him not being there at all, but I think he could have been written to grow up slightly more noticeably.
The AViator I completely disagree with you. Especially with the “he isn’t as much of a necessary character in ATLA as the rest.” Also, how the hell are his jokes offensive?
@@theaviator1152 bro what are you talking about Sokka was vital to team Avatar he was the man with a plan without him they would have never got as far as they did.....
Unpopular opinion... apparently: people grossly misunderstand Toph, and her feelings towards authority. I bring this up because I continually see that claim, and I actually read an article claiming LoK ruined her for making her a police chief. Her beef was never towards authority in and of itself. Her beef was towards the classist ruling elite and their belief that authority is inherent, absolute, above reproach and beyond questioning. Being told things had to be done because "that's just how things are done" are what she has a problem with. She even outright admitted that she enjoys bossing people around when she opened her school.
This, exactly this. You put it in words better than I ever could. I also think that people just forget that she's literally 12 in the OG series. People change when they grow up, even 10 years later. I sure as hell am not the same as I was when I was 12, nor do I necessarily have the exact same opinions or values that I did at that age. That being said I think what you said absolutely lines up with Toph's character.
@@WolfWarrior623 Haters mostly just need a reason to hate on Korra without context. As one of the people said if LOK came first, this would've been rated a lot higher.
@@pale_hispanic2429 is it though? There's a article on Inverse that argues just that. Considering everything thats happened and is happening this year I would be surprised if people weren't trying to make this same point. Not that I agree that somehow becoming a police officer ruined her character, have you seen old lady Toph?
@Ellie Fuller Why I think Kuvira is the greatest avatar villian ever, altough she came after Zaheer who is in definite contention is simply because, she is a reflection of Korra, albeit a better one, she's is doing the things that the avatar is supposed to be doing, but Korra was too broken to do as she in itself was exactly the thing all the villians throughout the series wanted to stop. The non democratic, authoritarian, super power, who is revered as well as feared. Kuvira is fighting for democracy, a non monarchy world where rulers are no chosen by birthright. Yet once again she takes it to far, like all villains in Korra do, and then gains this sense of hypocrisy. At first you understand why the villains are doing this things, Amon, equality for all, Unalaq, freedom to the spirits, Zaheer, no monarchies and super powers, Kuvira, democracy. So you understand them and kind of support them, then they take it to far.
ATLA is so good that even a good show like LOK looks like a bad show when compared to it. I think that is one of the reasons why some people hate LOK, its because it isnt as good as ATLA.
@@zee4125 I still think atla would have a better reception. Atla is a masterpiece that deserves to go down in history. That me be a slight exaggeration but it's my favourite show. I'm obsessed with anything fantasy and Atla is the best fantasy story I've come across
I like LOK, I love ATLA. I feel like why most ppl hate LOK, is because it doesn't have as much awesome comic relief as ATLA. Also, most people where angry about the ATLA season 4 that was stripped from them when LOK aired.
Mako really doesn't get the credit he deserved. Most people say his only character trait is being a love interest and it really isn't. Mako's very smart and brave and cares deeply for his friends and family. In book 1, while being bloodbent by Amon he realized that he could still move his hand and use lightening, incapacitating Amon even briefly. In book 2, he was the only one who realized that Varrick was the mastermind behind the "northern water tribe" attacks in Republic City. If he hadn't figured it out, Varrick's plan most likely would've succeeded. In book 3, he defeated Ming Hua because he knew that electrocuting the water would take her out. In book 4, he single-handedly brought down Kuvira's mecha giant, knowing that he could die because of it. Yes, he's the least developed member of team avatar, but he's so much more than just a brooding love interest
My beef with LOK is its story it's characters are honestly kind of dull like you can see how good they could have been if the writers put a little more time in to fleshing them out... but they kind of just mistreated most of their characters except tenzin which honestly he's one of the few things I like about LOK. He's the only character with a proper arc
Yeah. Honestly, things like the love triangle might not have even been that bad if they delved more into what it meant to the characters. Why does Mako have trouble with relationships? Because of his past. Then we can grow to understand him more and think of him as less like just a jerk. Bolin gets a lot of amazing stuff on the show, but I feel like among the 4, he grows emotionally the least. Asami had a really interesting arc, but that was either used to further the plot (like in Book 2) or hastily crammed into Book 4. I feel like with better character development, LoK could have been SUCH a better show.
I really like Suyin because it just shows how likeable protagonists don’t always have to be great people. I love watching her, I cant help but like her as a person, but boy is she a selfish hypocrite. I just think that’s an interesting way to write a character.
I think people hate on Su too much. Yes she did bad things and ran with a bad crowd in her youth but so did other characters like Kai who stole things from others and Mako and Bolin who once worked with the triple threats. Both Lin and Su grew up with Toph as a mother who wanted them to be free due to not feeling she had enough freedom as a child which affected BOTH kids and it’s one thing for Lin to not wanna be on good terms with Su but she had no right to take it out on Su’s daughter and Su and Toph did work things out. As for Su not helping the earth kingdom when it was in anarchy she actually made a good point in that marching in and taking over it wouldn’t automatically solve all the rioting and chaos. After all the people of the earth kingdom were previously ruled by a selfish queen who took air benders against their will for her own agendas so the people of the earth kingdom likely wouldn’t automatically accept someone coming in and trying to tell them what to do.
@Grace Fu I'd have to agree, she was a selfish and very harmful hypocrite with very likeable exterior and personality, which as some have coined it; "making her morally grey". Aside for Toph, she really contributed a lot to the fracturing of their family and it was one of the biggest things that kept me grinding my teeth at the show because of how they seemingly reward and openly apologise for abusive and terrible characters, while lambasting cartoonishly traumatised and abused ones like Lin. I guess it makes sense for Korra to side with Suyin like that, they're both abusive pricks that never got their comeuppance from the people who come from a genuine place, both being horribly abusive to people they are closest to.
@@dmastermanga Korra called out Lin for going off at Opal who was only trying to be nice. Opal tried to communicate and get to know her aunt and she threw a tantrum at her that was meant for her sister. Korra was right to call her out at that moment because Lin was being a prick. Even later all she says is to apologize to Opal. In regards to Su, she's a snake, but she turned her life around, became a mother and founded Earth Kingdom's most impressive city. She sits high on her own horse, but she's definitely changed for the better and she did try to reach out to make amends. Lin didn't want any of that and that isn't Su's fault. I don't think any party was in the right.
It never bothered me that Korra lost her connection to the Avatars. I actually respect the writing staff for taking a risk like that. That gave the fight stakes and lasting consequences. It’s fine if you dislike Korra’s character, but sometimes people hate on her just because. BTW, I would love a Red Lotus prequel series as a novel or a comic book.
Also it makes sense with the show's thesis of progression. In the ATLA finale and especially in the comics the past avatars could no longer give Aang meaningful advice because the world has progressed beyond their knowledge and their wisdom is antiquated. Future avatars would be hindered by the past avatars.
Kendal Kendorable I totally agree. Aang didn’t have to take any of the Avatar’s advice and most of the time he didn’t lol. Aang and Korra chose their own paths at the end of the day. The connections to the past Avatar’s isn’t a necessity in my opinion.
Kendal Kendorable I disagree with this because aang proves to be useful to korra when she lost her bending and I think he could’ve been really useful with korras ptsd
@@Kendorable That's not what happened in the comics Aang was pissed at Roku because of what happened in that comic but later Aang realizes he needs Roku and the other Avatars for advice. Plus despite she spent less time with them Korra found out about Tarrlock from Aang and got her bending back because of him and found out about Vaatu from Wan.
Wait, people thought Korra INTENTIONALLY lost her connection to her past lives?? What is wrong with y'all? Why y'all out trying so hard to just be objectively wrong?
@@yutah. she trusted an uncle she just met over her father of 17 years ... the first thing she should have done when speaking to unalaq is figure out how to access the past lives for guidance on changing the world... so many things wrong
Wolfwarrior she’s a teenager, it happens. Especially because her father lied to her for so many years and her parents hid her from the world, so naturally she didn’t trust them for a little bit.
Bolin is mad underrated he learned to lava bend at 17 with no training that’s pretty bad ass also bopal is my favourite ship I think those are pretty unpopular opinions 😅
To add on to the Aang comment, people seem to forget how much of a flawed character he is in the last airbender as well. He lies to Katara and Sokka about the message from their father, he lies to Toph and Sokka about mastering the avatar state with Patiq. He burns Katara, and literally runs away from the air nomads to escape the responsibility of being the avatar. He isn’t perfect. He is only a person.
@@iloveowls90 I keep hearing this all the time that he would have died. I highly doubt that, he was literally being sent away (the eventual morning of his runaway) to learn the other elements and for his own protection. It's not like he would have been in the air temples when the war was happening, he would have most likely been in the northern water tribe learning waterbending and seeing how competently the waterbenders of the north could fight the fire nation, he would have been pretty safe.
I didn’t like it on my first watch a couple years ago (mainly due to Korra herself) but I ordered the series a couple days ago so I’m going to rewatch it when it arrives. I watched MANY videos from all ends of the spectrum of LoK fans/haters and got some new perspective. I’m excited to see how my opinions have changed, especially since I was like 13ish when I last saw it.
Corey Klaustermeier I had the same experience but didn’t get to watch the show fully because of school and I recently watched it fully on Netflix in a span of 4 days
@@coreyklaustermeier7329 That's great, I'm glad you watched both sides to get different opinions. I feel like most people nowadays only watch what they agree with.
I didn't think Korra did it on purpose, but it's still silly that it happened, for me. (Purely from a writing perspective) before 'Beginnings' the Avatar state was summoning the collective power and wisdom of past Avatars, however Rava still lives in her anyway (I guess). I know this is a bit pick, but the point is, she's able to still break the power sealing and do all this crazy stuff despite having her power source disconnected. This is me being obsessed with consistency. It's just my opinion.
True. Hello Future Me did an excellent video explaining it that actually helped me a lot. But the thing is, when he says Beginnings fixed "loopholes", well... it's a soft magic system so hard core rules are better left out not just because it's easier but it allows creative freedom. And from a non nerdy writer perspective, it just allows the world to be mysterious and seem broader b'coz of things that are unknown. But that's just my opinion. It's not that big of a deal.
@@marshmallowvampire8503 I agree that sometimes some things should be left mysterious but when you want to build a literal universe (what Avatar creators said that they want to do. They want Avatarverse to be like Marvel Cinematic Universe or star wars universe or dc unverse) you will need that time by time reveal all vague and mysterious things in the lore to expand it further and be easier to grasp later in the whole circle
@@Trans_SovietBee disagree. Harry Potter universe managed to do just that without explaining the origins of the magic. beginnings overwrote the lore, in my opinion. In the cave of two lovers they went out of their way to show the first human earth benders Oma an Shu learning from badgermoles. That would have been the time to mention the Lionturtles. But not a single lionturtle was shown there. In beginnings they could have shown Oma and Shu, but instead they retconned the story and showed people receiving bending from lionturtles. No badgermoles were shown.
One thing that people never consider about Beginnings and the Lion Turtles giving the bending is that it references the Last Airbender. When Aang learns to energybend, it is what the Lion Turtles do to give and take bending. The Lion Turtle shows Aang how to take bending away, and he does it in the same way they do it, modified for humans. I hope that makes sense. Edit: The main purpose of this comment was just to be my thoughts on the concept of Lion Turtles being the source of bending, with the Dragons, Sky bison, Badgermoles, and Moon being the teachers. Just a part of the bigger picture. This wasn't about Beginnings as a whole, though if you want that, then read Lore Goblin's comment and watch Hello Future Me's "Beginnings: An Overdue Critique"
True, but the Lion Turtles are already a thing of contention amongst fans of ATLA. It kinda came out of nowhere and was kind of a cop-out for Aang. Also, people don't like it because it made avatar less compelling just watch Hello Futures Me's video on Beginning and you can understand.
okay, so, here's my issue with the way the spirit world was treated throughout the whole of the Legend of Korra: mysticism and aesthetic. beginnings didn't ruin the lore in the sense that it added information that made things make less sense... it weakened the mysticism of the lore by over explaining things that we didn't need to know. I do not need Koh the face stealer's life story. I only need to see Koh the face stealer for one tense scene. and I will pick up on the idea that, in a mythic sense, this is an ancient thing that has seen eons pass... something primordial and strange. or like, in the video, the comment that mentions beginnings talks about questions raised by the legends of early benders learning bending from nature... stuff like "could Tui and La teach Sokka to waterbend" or whatever. but that is taking things way too literally. these are fables. folk tales. they tell of something from a long, long time ago. it's something where the people of the modern day passed it down, but they don't really know if it's true or not... like how I, as a modern person, relate to the myth of Promethius stealing fire from the gods to give to mankind. sometimes you have to let some of your story rest on the things that we know for sure, and sometimes you have to let some of your story rest on the spaces between. sometimes the things that a viewer's mind will wander to in the absence of concrete answers is better than what could be described in explicit detail. and beyond that is the aesthetic of the spirit world. which my heart is completely divided about, because ultimately, I think that the visual style of beginnings is very beautiful to look at. but it is simply the wrong choice for what they're trying to depict, in the same way that this story beat is the wrong choice for the kind of mystical, folkloric role that spirits are supposed to play in the Avatar series. older ATLA spirits borrowed a lot from the feel that I get off of yokai... they seem at once to be eerily physical beings... moreso than ghosts. they're almost like fae folk... kind of with their own sense of morals or priorities, and they don't prioritize letting humans in on what their morals or priorities even are. in some ways, they're unfathomable. and they're very naturalistic... the things they don't communicate kind of read the same way as when you stumble upon a wild animal in the woods. it's intelligent, though you don't necessarily know what it is thinking, or what it might do, and your own level of comfort or safety is not necessarily it's concern. to get a little more specific in my complaining: the aesthetic of the spirit world is too bright and saturated in LoK. everything is candy colored, and a lot of the spirits are basically just pokemon. and in regards to Rava and Vatu... I get what is being said about balance in this video. he's saying that it's not as though "balance" means needing equal amounts of good and bad, thus necessitating a certain amount of bad in the world to balance good in a very literal way... rather, it's more of a yin and yang, push and pull sort of thing. but Rava and Vatu are still very explicitly coded as good vs. evil, which I'm not a fan of. that feels so... western values of them? true yin and yang doesn't code traits as good or evil... just in opposition. for example, truth vs. ideals could be seen as opposing concepts with effective uses and things to watch out for. if you have too much truth, you start to become critical, cynical, possibly even paranoid in your skepticism. but if you become too idealistic, you can become delusional, disingenuous, or even complacent about reality in favor of a narrative you've let yourself believe in instead. that said, truth keeps you sharp, and grounded in reality, while ideals keep you hoping for better things, even if stuff seems bad in the moment. this is a true push and pull between opposite concepts. neither one is good or evil. and you can see how a person would benefit from keeping a balance between the two, and not letting one or the other take over their mindset in full. obviously that's only one example, but you can see how this idea of yin and yang as equal and opposing forces could permeate other areas of thought and action, to create an all encompassing ideology. to me, Tui and La already showed this very well. of the two, neither one was coded as bad or good... they simply revolved around each other in a kind of symbiosis. each needed the other in order to define themselves, like the physical phenomenon of shadows in relation to light. this could never have been how anyone would see Rava and Vatu based on their visual presentation... they are very much presented as good and bad. they are literally black and white. and while Tui and La were black and white as well, they each had a bit of the other's color on them. basically, the visual style of beginnings is too bright, literal, and explicit. everything loses its philosophical complexity because the show tells you the answers too much. you don't get to think on the concepts it brings to the table and come to your own conclusions. and it isn't cohesive with ATLA at all in terms of that. this is not to say that I didn't like anything about beginnings... and I think people should be happy watching it for the thing that it is. I'm not begrudging anyone their enjoyment. but what I've said here remains the way that I feel about how it slots into ATLA's lore.
This actually changed my mind about a few things. I've always loved the fight scenes in lok and the more modern fighting styles. Kuvira is basically a boxer, Zaheer is super aggressive with airbending, etc.
I feel like most of Korra's issues always ties back to the production woes. Ugh. If only Nickoledeon was clearer with what they wanted to do instead of always changing their minds the last minute, writing would be better and the characters would be fleshed out better. And if they got the same 20 episodes like ATLA got every characters of the Avatar universe would most likely be good characters in general. But still, it's a good show!
@@xavierprince5753 But that's also their fault mostly. First of all, originally they were only going to give Korra 12 episodes so essentially 1 book. But then they told the creators that they're going to have another season almost towards the end of book 1 so they had to change things up again. Which means that the writing has to change big time. And that's a general theme with Korra: production woes that result to not the greatest writing. As far as I know, Korra was giving GoT a run for their money in ratings for at least 1 book. And why would you say that she had so much to live up to as if she's the one writing, producing, and animating her story? lmao It all goes back to what Antoine was saying where fans blame Korra (when it was Unavaatu or precisely, the writers) as if it was her own conscious self deciding to take her past lives away from her.
Lincoln Learns Art ohh I understand ur take on that. Thanks for correcting me but the amount of changes they did drove the fan base away from korra and the fact that we didn’t see her learn the elements or go on journeys and show the true qualities of a good avatar helped too.but the change was a bit too overwhelming
@@xavierprince5753 They had to shorten the timeline of her learning the elements because they were only originally going to have 1 book. Plus they have to make a good story and develop the characters in 12 episodes. Is that enough? Absolutely not! Had they given this series the same opportunities and playing field as ATLA, a lot of it's issues would not exist. ATLA never had to worry about any of this. Haha. I guess all I'm saying is it's those executives fault for not having a clear cut direction as to where Korra was going which is what I originally said with my comment. This show (and other shows) would have been great if not for production woes. And now, it seems like Netflix plans to do the same thing with the live action of ATLA. What is up with these production companies?
If they had 20 episodes a season, knew what they were going to do from the beginning and had korrasami as the endgame relationship in mind since season 1, I honestly think that tlok would’ve been better than atla. Like IMAGINE what they could’ve done with the red lotus. They didn’t even have flashbacks to korra as a child, or anyone’s childhood for that matter.
Okay I’m gonna say it. Mako is not the only to blame on what went down with the love triangle. People seem to forget that he did in fact reject Korra because he was dating Asami. And she was the one that impulsively kissed him. Regardless that he was giving signs he was interested in Korra too. She played a part in the chaos that happened in the relationship. And it really annoys me when everyone puts the blame on Mako. Because I’ll say it again, ya don’t kiss someone else’s significant other even if they may be giving signs of interest. Ya just don’t
I think it's not Korra's fault either. Hear me out. She's a teen who didn't experience being a normal teen and didn't taught about love by her parents because they are focus on secluding her, protecting her and training her as an avatar in the South. That's all she knows. Then she goes to republic city and has a crush. She don't know what she gonna do about it because Mako is already taken but Pema kind of gave her a bad advice. She told her about her and Tenzin love story where he is still dating Lin. So maybe that's what go through her mind. Confess to the guy you like so you both end up together or something like that. Again, she's a teen but she learns thru experience. Hahaha!
BE HAPPY I understand but that doesn’t make it okay and it doesn’t shift any fault from her. I never said was her fault exclusively, I’m just saying she played a part in it too.
Why does everyone forget that Pema told Korra to go for it - she was taking an older woman's advice: the wife of her master. And it had worked for Pema, so...
@Menkir Dennis Was it, though? Didn't Tenzin leave Lin for Pema? Didn't Mako eventually end up leaving Asami for Korra? "Homewrecker" lol They're teenagers; teenagers rarely date for more than a few weeks.
But that was because of the martial arts that inspired Fire bending in the first place. In ATLA each bending had its own unique style, and if iirc in Korra all fights are "samey-y" (it's been a while since I watched it but I don't remember any that stands out)
BUT he incorerates breakdancing moves (antiones words not mine) and learns the breath of fire from iroh, he redirects lightning, and honestly what else is he supposed to do? it comes from the body, how else is the fire gonna get out
@@edennara I rewatched about 20 fights, and it's not even as much boxing/punching as people say it is. It's really only the 3 probenders that fight like that along with fire benders. @Jesús Reyes I'll have to agree with you on the fire bender thing. Anyone else outside of them fighting normally with about 15% punching/boxing.
People literally forget that aang almost ended the avatar cycle without katara's spirit water. Korra lost the connection to previous avatars and that wasn't even her fault.
That wasn't his fault either lol. It's not even that he lost in a fight, when he went into the avatar state I don't think it was his intention to float up into the sky and give Azula an easy target Korra was kinda the reason it got to that point for trusting her uncle way too much, but I don't blame her for that
Yeah but if the theory that Sokka was suyin’s father is true then tenzin and Lin would have been some sort of step cousins But hey just pointing it out not awkward at all🤗
I like them together, but honestly, the thing that makes their relationship spicy is the fact that they broke up in the past. If we wouldn't have known ABT the differences and stuff, beifongs sacrifice wouldn't have the same impace Also when su says no wonder Tenzin ended things with you, it broke me, in a good way
@Ellie Fuller I think the idea was Varrik took her forgranted because he didnt realize how good he had it..once he lost her he realized which is why his feelings and treatment of her changed. Also, she wasnt ever a slave, she was willfully employed and could quit at anytime..it makes sense that only someone who was actually secretly in love with their boss would stay and put up with all his demands and ecentricities on Zhu Lis part..but she deffinatly did see that he didnt value her which is why she didnt go back to being his assitant in the end. Power dynamics can change, and in the end, their dynamic was equalized as she herself said he needed to treat her as an equal if he wanted her back in his life. But I also dont think the relationship was thought through in S2. It was probbaly halfway through S3 or at the start of 4 that they thought it would be a good angle. Which like the rest of LOK is why it feels like it comes out of no where.
@@vianjelos yes, she was strong enough to leave him if she wanted, but she never did because she stayed with him voluntarily. And I agree, she had already feelings for him.
I feel like Amon as a blender has a justified motive. It was bending that ruined his childhood and as he says bending caused the bad things in his life and many wars. It seems justified to me that he actually wants bending out of the world
Aang feeling insecure in his masculinity is an interesting opinion. I always thought that his anger (Aang-er) at being played by a woman was a remnant of the times this was written in; specifically, how boys and men are taught that being compared to a woman is the ultimate insult, so Aang’s reaction was meant to be relatable to the boys in the audience. I never got the sense that Aang was insecure in his masculinity, because a lot of his so-called ‘feminine’ traits (avoidance, lack of persistence, tactical approach, emphasis on speed and evasion over strength, emotional expression, and desire for peace) were characteristics of Airbender culture as a whole, not just Aang as an individual. In the episode “Bitter Work”, a lot of Toph’s criticisms of Aang’s Airbender mentality make sense; she’s an Earthbender who happens to be the polar opposite of Aang, and-as a well-written character-thinks her way is better than the alternatives. However, Aang doesn’t seem upset over how his traits cause others to perceive him. He learns to stand his ground out of necessity, but continues to utilize air more than the other elements. Aang develops as a result of learning earthbending, but only because it’s his duty as the Avatar, not because of personal insecurity or outside pressure. And I, for one, think that’s awesome.
I love this sensitivity sometimes confused with something feminine, I think from the point of view of the fire nation the fact that he is not aggressive makes him feminine, I would so much like the series to go deeper into this, I watched the batman yesterday and the Robert has a bit of this about not knowing how to talk about what he's feeling, but it's easy to understand why he has this sensitivity, usually very masculine men get bitter when they don't get what they want
I always thought when people say it was Korra’s fault the avatar connection was severed, they meant that it was her fault because she was defeated and Unalaq took raava out of her. Therefore if Unalaq never got the best of her than the connection would still be there. But if they literally meant it the way you described it in the video, than yes that is ridiculous
Cheyenne Harrigan even if they meant it was her fault cuz she was defeated, it wasn’t rlly her fault either, she didn’t go “Eh I guess I’ll just lose cuz I’m bored” which is also ridiculous
@@nagapandian yes. It was due to Unalaq having full awareness of his spiritual understanding and where that aligns. While Korra was still in the midst of learning her spiritual capability.
Naga Pandian I mean even though she fought and didn’t just lay down, it’s still mostly her fault. If aang had lost to Ozai and the fire nation continued to conquer the rest of the world, people wouldn’t say, “ it’s not really aang’s fault’ it’s not like he just gave the world to Ozai. It wouldn’t matter, it would be his fault why the world would have been out of balance and same for Korra’a situation
Pema is underrated and not completely at fault for Lin and Tenzins breakup. Sure she was the last crack in the glacier, but Tenzin and Lin did the rest.
If Tenzin ended up with Lin there’s a lot less of a chance for the air bending genes to pass on to their children because you got those godly Beifong earth bender genes in there. That’s if Lin would even want kids. Pema saved the air nation before harmonic convergence.
It seems like nobody likes Mako 😭 The thing I like about Mako is his blunt and honest personality cause thats how I am to a lot of people. But we mean well lmao. Of course its supposed to add comedic value because Mako and Bolin are polar opposites to each other. Mako uses logic while Bolin uses his beliefs. Which is why I like their relationship.
I think Mako is the way he is because he has been taking care of him and Bolin from a young age. He didn't have a privileged childhood like Korra and Asami.
@@shapy9539 that is true. But for people to say he's completely bland like he didnt live on the streets along with bolin and was part of a gang for years kinda makes me sad :(
I think Aang not being a perfect father is fine. However, I highly doubt Katara would let Aang be like that. I have no problem with the narrative. I just feel it wasn’t executed properly. If it was more like Boruto with how Naruto is I think it would be better.(To be fair Naruto is alive in Boruto(for now) so I think that’s why it works better in Boruto because we get to see Naruto side of the story).
@@a_bruuuhhh9286 I agree, although I now think 4 isn't as bad as I once thought because of Korras irl relatable arc/inner battle with depression etc, just the finale is meh compared with 1 & 3, shoulda been Amon as the final boss
@@a.bit.Sketch yeah tbh now i think s3 is the best by far and season 4 is arguably the worst or season 2. season 1 was good but i think it had tons of wasted potential and amons character was handled badly
I’m a die hard avatar fan since I was younger, and I love korra! I do like the darker tone it takes. The only thing I wasn’t a fan of was the love triangle with Korra Asami and Mako. The shows not perfect, but I like seeing how things turned out in that universe after the gaang was finished with their work.
Unpopular opinion: Amon was far better than Ozai. He was a terrifying villain, a real threat to Korra, his ideology was sound, his design was badass. Ozai felt more like a video game villain rather than an actual character in a show.
I think that's because Ozai was just pure evil. Amon on the other hand, had a actual motive. He not only practiced one of the most dangerous styles, but had a tragic backstory.
@@leighbelk769 I think it has to do with Ozai being a more background villain. He was very important to the story, but almost everything he does is in flashbacks or mentioned. Let's just make a hypothetical scenario to prove his irrelevance in the final part of the story. Let's imagine that Ozai was sick and he was dying. Everything with Zuko and the day of the black sun happens the same, but Ozai actually dies before the comet and his second evil brother or something takes the rains. Zuko still fights Azula and wins, both characters get their endings, and Aang fights that new evil guy and wins. Apart from that last scene with Zuko asking for his mother absolutely nothing changes. Aang has no personal quarrels with Ozai, but with the leader of the fire nation, thus he is replaceable there. Neither Zuko, Iroh nor Azula confront him ever after that, so nothing changes as well. Ozai was a great plot point, but not a great character.
My opinions on Aang being a bad father I like that he wasn’t a perfect parent. It makes sense that he had a difficult time being there for his kids because he was focused on his Avatar responsibilities. I can also understand that he could unintentionally spend more time with Tenzin his only air bending kid. I think the fact that he was so obvious about Tenzin being his favorite and the fact the he only took him on vacations that is hard to believe and it’s also hard to believe that Katara would have let that happen. Maybe the vacations they went on were trips to learn air bending but had fun along the way or something and that’s why Tenzin thinks they were vacations
Honestly losing the past lives is neither a good nor bad decision. It was just a decision, as simple as that, and people would'nt care much if we got to see more of the gaang as adults, which can be fixed by making a short series anytime instead of some non-canon live action, which even the authors couldn't bear to be a part of.
i disagree i think taking away the past lives was great for Lok i didn’t like it but i think it was great that the avatar state had to restart because the past lives don’t always benefit the current avatar like how roku told aang to kill his own grandson, and when aang went to his predecessors for help they all told him to kill ozai. and last but not least the world was entering a new era of technology and modernization so i thought how much help would the past lives really be besides the avatar state
IIcOnIc_Sw1ft YT tbh if it wasn’t for a lion turtle he just so happened to meet killing was probably the only choice to kill ozai. Having someone to talk to is always going to be good even with a new technology age.
I had read a lot about how 'bad' LoK is.. and I started watching it yesterday (bcs I wanted more avatar content) with a pre set mind.. and you know what, I loved it. I finished book 1 in one night. The fights are lit af🔥
Honestly I think Korra’s a better character than Aang. Yah, she’s kinda annoying in season 1 and 2 at times, but Aang was a little annoying at the beginning of season 1 tbh. And while Aang was a borderline perfect character without an evil bone in his body, Korra constantly struggled with herself and her failures, making her feel very much human and like her mistakes have consequences. Almost every over ATLA character surpasses the LOK Korra’s though.
Finally, more people bringing up the fact that losing the past lives isn't necessarily a bad thing, or more, the fact that their wisdom isn't necessarily all that useful. People act like they're so important, but if we look to the original series, Aang really did not use his past lives that much, he only spoke to Roku when it was relevant, and then called upon them for opinions on how to stop Ozai, and as was brought up in the video, none of the answers were what he wanted to hear. Also imo the past lives can only go so far, the older an avatar, the less relevant their wisdom could be, because their experiences and their world was likely much different than the current Avatar's. I really like that Shadow of Kyoshi addressed this too. "There's a thousand generations of past lives in the Avatar cycle. You could spend a thousand years talking to us, and you still wouldn't know how best to guide the world. This is what you must forgo, Kyoshi, the easy answers. you must give up your desire for someone to tell you your choices were correct in the world."
I think in Korra they definitely made the past lives seem less relevant. The avatar state was more like a slight boost which kind of upset me. I disagree on this one mostly because the past lives are extremely helpful in the avatar state, and without it many battles would’ve been lost in both shows.
I found myself agreeing with a lot of these opinions. Particularly the one about Varrick and Zhu Li (Even if Varrick is one of my favourite characters) as well as about Aang as a parent.
07:13 what do you think happen if Tenzin only have 1 air ending children like Aang ? Would Tenzin do the same thing like Aang ? And then we will see him as bad father because the way Aang teach him like that ? Because I think I heard/read about avatar video/article where people have opinion that Tenzin Married with Pemma (Non-Bender) because it will multiply the possibilities to have a Airbending kid (Sorry for my english.still learning)
I think the official reason was because Lin didnt want any kids (Family issues). And obviously Tenzin wanting to preserve his culture. So he picked Pema
Aang’s bad parenting also results from the pressure of his duties as the avatar. As far as Aang was concerned, after he died, Tenzin would be the last air bender until he had children. And even if everything worked out where Tenzin had 4 airbending children, the next avatar still needs to learn airbending and it’s place in the balance of the world. It’s no different than Tenzin trying to teach the new airbenders in season 3 and each one having issues grasping a culture they weren’t raised in. There’s an entire culture that’s been wiped off the face of the world. It’s not just about bending the elements, it’s about learning the cultures and how they all balance each other. And regardless of how Aang feels, his duty as the avatar to ensure there’s at least one airbender alive with the culture’s knowledge, would be of a higher priority than whether or not he spends enough time with his children. And that would be something I could easily see weighing heavy on his conscience
I'm so glad you mentioned that "balance" isn't just light and dark 50/50, so many people misinterpret that! Destiny 2 deals with Light and Darkness a lot, and the lore has one of my favourite quotes on the subject: "I believe in balance. But to seek balance is not to seek equity. A sea half of water and half of poison is not in balance. A body half alive and half dead is not in balance. Given the choice to live in any world, any world at all... we would need a little darkness in it, I think, to keep the balance true. But not so much as we would need the light."
11:10, I dont think korra is the last avatar. she ends up getting raava back from vaatu's chest. As long as there is raava, she can find a new body to be in and make them the avatar. as long as there is raava, there is the avatar. i think the next avatars would have connection to past lives.
Korra isn’t the last avatar but she would’ve started over the avatar cycle as the first avatar. I think the next avatar would only have connection to korra as a past life, but unavaatu severed the connection to the rest of them before korra
Chief Cleve thats not how it works It doesn’t restart with her its legit gone An avatar can’t ever talk to an old avatar ever again So instead Korra wrote bunch of letters for the next avatar because she won’t be there to talk
@@Seven-vn6qi Actually you are wrong. Korra refused Herself with Raava the exact same way that Wan did. Starting at Korra, new Avatars will have a connection of their past lives back until Korra. No, they won't be able to connect past her but there is literally no reason to believe they can't connect to past lives that are Korra or afterwards.
Revenant but I thought tenzin made her write those letters as a back up/contingency plan just in case she won’t have the connection to future avatars. He said “ Future Avatars may not have connections to their past lives“. Operative word “May not” meaning they don’t know for sure if that’s gonna happen. But the show goes out the way to point out that korra refused with raava and reestablished the avatar cycle, she did the very same thing wan did when he began the avatar cycle, so I don’t see why future avatars shouldn’t have connection to her. I understand how they may not connect to avatars before korra since Korra lost those, but I don’t see why the next avatar shouldn’t connect to korra
I personally think the reason why LOK doesn’t hold up to/isn’t received well as ATLA is mainly cuz the bad aspects of the show outshine the good parts. ATLA has flaws but you barely noticed bcuz it had a compelling and cohesive story w/ strong character arcs and development. ATLA ended in 2008 and it’s still to this day memorable. I just finished watching LOK on Netflix and I barely remembered what happened. By all means LOK isn’t a bad show, it’s great in some aspects but just gets overshadowed by the bad.
imo what makes lok not so good is the fact that there were too many characters, too much story and too little time to actually feel something for them. Relationships seemed to end as fast as they started and characters developed too fast or not at all. ATLA was so good because it was a slow burner with a relatively small main cast, I mean I don't even know who the main characters in LOK are, Korra, Asami, Bolin, and Mako? But then there are so many other characters who take the spotlight so often that it's hard to tell. It just seems disorganized at times, still a good show but it has a lot of issues.
I completely agree with the comment about ATLA being more simple than LOK. imo, LOK was written for an older audience. I know when ATLA ran, I was still in elementary school, but when LOK premiered, I was in late middle school, and was a freshman in high school when it was finished. Just like when Pixar was doing sequels for some of their older franchises, the creators knew that their audience was getting older, and made a show for them.
I was way past the ATLA target market when it aired first, i became interested in ATLA when I watched the episode where the gaang discovered the air nomad genocide, i was like "cool, this is portrayed, i'm gonna watch this" , but then got bored because it feels like too childish for me because they were so laidback considering the responsibility so i stopped watching, then i watched the finale and felt underwhelm that there is no challenge at all, aang goes to avatar stated and that's it. When i watch TLOK, it was jarring at first, then i saw in Korra her urgency to always be on the forefront of the problem and try to solve it immediately, i think maybe it jived with my personality so i liked it more. Plus when i saw her rebel against tenzin, her father etc.. Man i saw myself in her. Aang is kinda boring really, compare to the explosiveness of kyoshi and korra.
Honestly one of my favorite small moments in the show is where Bolin and Mako get captured by the red lotus and Bolin starts up a conversation before getting scolded by Mako for being friendly with the enemy. Like, they were actually conversing back with Bolin and being friendly to him, having a bit of banter. I feel like if Mako hadn't said anything that whole talk could've gone on for hours
@@Qxestionable, for me he IS the most powerful villain in TLOK The Ability to remove Element Bending can only be done by the Avatar, until Amon's Father came in and Amon became an even more powerful version of his father.
I'm a Blackkking speaking of Amon returning, a little fun fact. Ming-Hua’s character in the red lotus came from a joke the creators were making about Amon surviving the explosion and lost his arms. That’s how Ming hua was armless and used water bending for her arms
I can see that. I personally liked him a lot more in the last 2 seasons (especially 4). But potty humor can be done right, and I don’t think it really was in Meelo’s case
Same. He acts like a VERY disobedient and rude child, he needs to be spanked. I'm 100% sure that air benders/acolytes are not supposed to act rude, selfish, sexist, and self-centered. Not to mention that he blames his mistakes on others. He reminds me a lot of the two Bumi and the childish/fun Aang but he's just too much. Fart jokes; that ain't it. Don't mention the fact that he's a young child. It's extremely concerning that he acts like this. I hated it when he took the phone and acted all 'grown-up' and stuff. That's just rude. Pema, whatever happened to Meelo? That man needs to be disciplined.
The reason everyone is angry with the past lives disappearing is because aang disappears and that is what started the whole avatar fandom and created success for them it’s like destroying their prized trophy and it physically hurt when he disappeared because now he’s officially dead not in existence
Yea, it took me a while to see the loss of the past Avatar lives as anything other than Korra's fault. Mostly because I was too immature to understand how problematic victim blaming was. But I'll tell ya, rewatching Korra really allowed me to acknowledge the growth I have had as a person, for sure. I realized that the reason I didn't like it the first go around was because I was too immature.
I could never for the life of me, understand when people say that it was Korra's fault for losing the connection of the past lives, when she was trying to save Raava but couldn't because while Raava was getting attacked so was Korra (because the connection she had with Raava as the Avatar). However it does beg the question: Could Korra or other Avatars regain the connection of their past lives???
@Bruce Wayne Immortal means you live forever, neither Aang nor any avatar for that matter is immortal. Aang lacks control over the AS this causes more harm than good, and staying in it for far too long has negative consequences especially since this is what led to Aangs demise at 66yrs old. Korra uses the avatar state the way it's supposed to be used in short controlled bursts, and she has Raava at her at full power, Korras foes are a lot smarter and more powerful as well. The dark spirit she faced was a lot stronger due to the amount of darkness in the world, the latter especially applies to Vaatu especially since he's the great spirit of chaos and darkness and thus draws power and strength from them and as a result his influence increases as well, Korra used the avatar state against him and she was winning despite the strength and power Vaatu had, she nearly sealed him away but her uncle pulled a sneak attack on her, in season 3 Korra was forced into the avatar state due to the mercury poison the Red Lotus used on her, and again despite this serious disadvantage she was winning against Zaheer, hell she had him running and she would've finished him had the mercury not taken effect, and in season 4 when Korra entered it in her first round against Kuvira she was winning, but her PTSD got ahead of her Almost everytime Korra went into the AS for combat purposes there was always something outside of her control that prevented her victory.
7:10 You know what I can agree with that for sure. We can’t expect Aang to be an amazing parent when he has barely seen any evidence that they exist, and any idea about parenting that he did have would have been over 110 years old from a culture that discouraged personal connections to parents (Air Nomads). LoK also shows that the stress that Tenzin had about passing on airbending was put on by Tenzin himself and not Aang, as shown in the Fog of Lost Souls scene. It was Aang himself (or a vision of him) who urged Tenzin to stop emulating somebody else's life, in favor of shaping his own. I still doubt that the writers of LoK actually thought of all that (if they did, good on them!). It’s probably us trying to come up with an explanation to why Aang isn’t as perfect and charming as in ATLA. Either way, now I realize LoK is forgivable. But I still have a problem with that way the comics shredded Kataang apart. They made Katara act extremely jealous (which had already happened a tiny bit and been resolved in Season 3 of ATLA so one would think it shouldn’t happen again) and made Aang seem a bit clueless or oblivious to that (which doesn’t make sense, after a year of her being the closest person to him he should really be emotionally in touch with her). Considering how caring and selfless Katara was in ATLA 95% of the time it really doesn’t fit her character, nor Aang’s (in fact, Aang was the one who was more forward and unreciprocated in early ATLA). Even the suggestion of, “oh, she lost her mom so she wants to ‘take care’ of Aang” or “she’s 16, it’s hormones and stuff” don’t really excuse that. Yes, there were hints at her being insecure in ATLA, but those sorts of character flaws were “fixed” by the end of the show as she discovered more about herself and Aang never held them against her. So it’s not just “I liked Kataang and am just angry it didn’t work,” it’s more of “it would have made more sense anyway for them to at least stay very close friends, rather than developing an extremely rocky relationship after adoring each other ever since they met.”
The comment on Suyin just makes me think of Toph tbh. I love toph but she is pretty selfish, it was understandable in atla because she was still a kid and she was a sheltered rich kid but that part of her didnt change much in my opinion. Love suyin too not hate just stating my opinions.
Thats the point. Her bad parenting is a product of her bad childhood. Yeah she was sheltered but she had little to no freedom. So she made sure her kids had all the freedom they wanted. Is she wrong for that? Yes
It’s crazy how similar out thought processes are , you hit everything I was thinking of spot on. Might have to use this to point our some of your analysis to prove stuff to blind haters, like Aang’s father role.
I feel as if , airbenders during the genocide weren’t all there at the temples and that they hid in ba sing se . It wouldn’t make sense to make airbenders after the battle between vatuu and korra . I feel like some airbenders were being told about the secret traps in the mountains so they were very smart not to go cuz when they went they usually were killed off . So I feel like after that fight it maybe unlocked their air chakra and with bumi , his dad was an airbender so that makes sense right ? This is just my theory I really hope you read this I love your channel
There was an Avatar games years ago and there was an airbender that told the Fire Nation about the temples and their locations, helping in the genocide. He survived (from what I remember, apparently not canon though) for helping the Fire Nation. Although I really can help but think that not all the airbenders just lived at the temples, I mean they were nomads! Here's my theory: Yes, the new airbenders have ancestry of airbenders. The airbenders weren't killed because they weren't at the temples and joined the Earth Kingdom for refuge. They lost their airbending abilities through generations because they're disconnected from their spirituality. (This happened to Kyoshi's mother, she abandoned her Air Nomad culture and her airbending was like blocked or something.) After Harmonic Convergence and the world being out of balance, balance was restored and new airbenders! Also, Ty Lee is a descendant of airbenders in my opinion. (There's a whole theory lol)
I wanted to see more of the Fire Lord aka *Zuko's daughter.* In fact, i would've liked to see the *Fire Nation* in general. That's the only kingdom that wasn't explored. I get that it was the focus point for most of *Aang's* story but it would've been nice to see how it was reconstructed by *Zuko.* himself
I am absolutely in love with ATLA, but tbh I really enjoyed LOK for the most part. LOK actually hits close to home for me considering I’m a brown bisexual girl just like Korra, and I can relate to her in some cases
Absolutely love your videos! It's awesome to hear you pick apart both the series in an unbiased manner. Having someone point out different things and talking about it makes me like both the series even more :)
My unpopular opinion is that zhu lee had the best arc. She went from this silent yes-man, or I should say yes-woman, to a character who wants to be, and ends up getting respected, and (spoiler alert if you haven’t watched season 4) ends up marrying Varrick. Idk, I just love this shift in control, and I knew she didn’t betray Varrick!
Amon should have been able to remove bending without touching his victim (He uses bloodbending which isn't some kind doesn't need physical contact) even the Avatar won't stand a chance against that (Assuming that going into Avatar State won't enable it again).
@@MENGGMS That would be sick but also too OP. I think its good the way it is. also maybe its like ming hua where she can bend water without touching it, but its easier to touch it
I really loved this video! I wish more people would follow the way you express your opinions. Whenever you disagreed, you did so with respect to their opinion and simply explained your reasoning. If more of the fandom followed this, it'd be a lot less toxic.
Love the vids man - keep diving deep on these 2 series and I’m loving it Not quite an unpopular opinion, but my personal theory is that Momo from ATLA is a real world incarnation of Aye Aye from Avatar Wan’s story arc. Not only do the two resemble each other dramatically, and it is proven that spirits have different forms in the real world (the dog that turns out to be a spirit that Korra has met in the spirit tree for example), but Aang was told he would find his spirit guide at the Southern Air temple (where he finds Momo), he is always with him (even on the lion turtle) and unconventionally wise characters like Bumi were always concerned with Momo’s location. The ways that this line up are too close for them to be coincidence - and the creators are proven to be excellent at foreshadowing in many cases. Whether this is fact or head Cannon I’m happy with this for sure!
I actually agree with the "severing past lives is a good" opinion, It had alot of potential to allow good character development and it was really interesting to see how Korra could've performed without the guidance of her past lives
I think the thing for Zhu Li is explained rather well actually. I had always wondered why she put up with Varrick and why she did the things she did. She explained that she admired him and his work. The agency she took in book 4 is proof of this. She was always free to leave or could have even played it straight and joined Kuvira. She believes in him and his vision, knows how she fits into his world, and understands his intentions and goals well enough to extrapolate what he needs in a situation. Varrick is the originator. But Zhu Li is the one with the discipline and capabilities to be the finisher. For him, he finds someone who can look past his oddities to find his actual intentions for a scenario. For her, she found someone who can solve a problems she also sees in the world in challenging and inventive ways
If there was ever a show that would benefit from a remake, Legend of Korra would be it. There's a great story that just had a lot of production problems. Now that the whole story is there, all there is to do is straighten out the wrinkles and reproduce it to a new audience.
Hell yeah CTF is a wonderful charity! NF is so unknown even tho it's been around for so long.
I LOVE that they reached out to me.
@SailorYue yeah it is! For my last birthday I sent $250 to CTF.
I have $5 taken from every paycheck going to them. They hold a personal importance to me because I have nf1 and my daughter has it too, so it's great importance to me. No child should go thru that!
@@SailorYue Thank you so much for the support. And Thank you Antoine for doing this.
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Unpopular opinion: sandbenders deserve more screen time and we should’ve seen them in combat
Agreed, one of the best part of the series is the integration of bending in people's lives even outside of combat, like the mail system in Omashu, the lightning bending in factories and metal bending in art.
I think sandbenders, swampbenders, and sun warriors should of all had more screen time
Adil Hoxha meh, I think the sun warriors and the swamp benders already served their purpose
IMO, the distinction of the swampbenders and sandbenders from more standard water and earthbenders was almost completely superfluous. Aside from characters like Yu, they barely utilize any sort of unique styles or abilities than any common bender of that respective element could.
I have a fan fiction, where a major villain is a incredibly powerful sand bender.
I took Lin’s side during that whole show down when she was a young officer and her sister was a criminal. Lin did her job and I hate how Toph chewed Lin out when she really should have reserved her anger/irritation strictly for Suyin. Toph let Suyin run wild and commit crime. It was up to Lin to stop her and Toph reprimanded Lin for doing what Toph herself should have done.
Lin is one of my favorite characters so I get you :)
Bruh your not understanding Lin didn’t talk to suyin and toph for years while suyin and toph already worked everything out years prior to Lin finnaly even trying anything in the end she was just being stubborn
@@WigShots she had a terrible childhood why would she talk to them, they should be the one talking to her. Idk
@@zeynepyakt6342 I mean, they tried talking to her. Su does say she tried to reach out.
I don't think Lin was in the wrong 30 years ago, but holding on to that grudge and refusing any chance for closure etc is on her.
Wigshots boom boom trauma affects people differently no matter how tough they seem on the outside. At the end of the day, Lin is reminded that her own sister scarred her every time she looks in the mirror. Psychologically that’s gotta take its toll and I don’t blame her for not wanting to talk to her sister or mother for so long, but hey that’s just cause sim dealing with similar stuff in therapy right now so I don’t know
RUclips’s getting real comfortable with these non-skip ads
Edit: Thanks 4 da likes
Read this comment while being in an unskippable ad
Just report the ad then it’ll skip that’s what I’ve been doing for years
@@zaylendaniels you can do that..?
They getting real bold with them double ads too
Yeah 😂
Btw who ever said that “meelo is better comic relief then sokka and momo” you are an infant. Meelo’s comic relief comes from farts = funny, while sokka’s jokes come from the situation that he is present in and then executes his joke. Also momo’s comic relief comes from him being a animal and a thief and the strange Situations that he gets put in.
EXACTLY BRUH, meelo was annoying to me
I think he meant that as in “Sokka is even worse than Meelo” because most of his jokes are still quite immature and slightly offensive, plus his voice is pretty spazzy and annoying too. Like in the middle of the climactic, serious battle between Aang and Ozai, he goes, *“gO aAnG!1! AiRbEndInG sLiCe!1!1!”*
I must admit he isn’t *as much* of a necessary character in ATLA as the rest (in terms of plot he still is pretty requisite) but he isn’t a terrible character. I do still think it’s better than him not being there at all, but I think he could have been written to grow up slightly more noticeably.
The AViator I completely disagree with you. Especially with the “he isn’t as much of a necessary character in ATLA as the rest.” Also, how the hell are his jokes offensive?
@@theaviator1152 bro what are you talking about Sokka was vital to team Avatar he was the man with a plan without him they would have never got as far as they did.....
Meelo is also 5 so at least the portrayal is accurate
Unpopular opinion... apparently: people grossly misunderstand Toph, and her feelings towards authority. I bring this up because I continually see that claim, and I actually read an article claiming LoK ruined her for making her a police chief.
Her beef was never towards authority in and of itself. Her beef was towards the classist ruling elite and their belief that authority is inherent, absolute, above reproach and beyond questioning. Being told things had to be done because "that's just how things are done" are what she has a problem with.
She even outright admitted that she enjoys bossing people around when she opened her school.
This, exactly this. You put it in words better than I ever could. I also think that people just forget that she's literally 12 in the OG series. People change when they grow up, even 10 years later. I sure as hell am not the same as I was when I was 12, nor do I necessarily have the exact same opinions or values that I did at that age. That being said I think what you said absolutely lines up with Toph's character.
@@WolfWarrior623 Haters mostly just need a reason to hate on Korra without context. As one of the people said if LOK came first, this would've been rated a lot higher.
Also the current political atmosphere concerning police, it more than likely has nothing to do with the character herself.
Phillip Gouthier ok now that’s a stretch
@@pale_hispanic2429 is it though? There's a article on Inverse that argues just that. Considering everything thats happened and is happening this year I would be surprised if people weren't trying to make this same point. Not that I agree that somehow becoming a police officer ruined her character, have you seen old lady Toph?
In my honest opinion season 3 was the best season and the red lotus was the best villain in the show.
Zaheer was amazing and I loved his philosophy but how can you not love Kuvira, she's the great uniter for a reason
How is that unpopular
@@hadarmoshe4977 Seriously, isnt that literally everyone thinks?
@Ellie Fuller Why I think Kuvira is the greatest avatar villian ever, altough she came after Zaheer who is in definite contention is simply because, she is a reflection of Korra, albeit a better one, she's is doing the things that the avatar is supposed to be doing, but Korra was too broken to do as she in itself was exactly the thing all the villians throughout the series wanted to stop. The non democratic, authoritarian, super power, who is revered as well as feared. Kuvira is fighting for democracy, a non monarchy world where rulers are no chosen by birthright. Yet once again she takes it to far, like all villains in Korra do, and then gains this sense of hypocrisy. At first you understand why the villains are doing this things, Amon, equality for all, Unalaq, freedom to the spirits, Zaheer, no monarchies and super powers, Kuvira, democracy. So you understand them and kind of support them, then they take it to far.
@Ellie Fuller See my other comment
Unpopular opinion: pro bending was really cool and is more entertaining than many modern sports
Also keep up the great videos :)
Thanks! Will do!
If that's unpopular then people really have no taste lol
@@WriterofWorlds like the boxing on wii sports, but 3-3 and elements
Agreed
I could watch a full series about probending
ATLA is so good that even a good show like LOK looks like a bad show when compared to it. I think that is one of the reasons why some people hate LOK, its because it isnt as good as ATLA.
THIS
So maybe the reason why I find LoK legit good show is because I never thought of ATLA as anything all that legendary either.
My rant aside though, you do bring up an interesting point. I do wonder what the reception would have been like if LOK came first, and then ATLA...
@@zee4125 I still think atla would have a better reception. Atla is a masterpiece that deserves to go down in history. That me be a slight exaggeration but it's my favourite show. I'm obsessed with anything fantasy and Atla is the best fantasy story I've come across
I like LOK, I love ATLA. I feel like why most ppl hate LOK, is because it doesn't have as much awesome comic relief as ATLA. Also, most people where angry about the ATLA season 4 that was stripped from them when LOK aired.
Mako really doesn't get the credit he deserved. Most people say his only character trait is being a love interest and it really isn't. Mako's very smart and brave and cares deeply for his friends and family. In book 1, while being bloodbent by Amon he realized that he could still move his hand and use lightening, incapacitating Amon even briefly. In book 2, he was the only one who realized that Varrick was the mastermind behind the "northern water tribe" attacks in Republic City. If he hadn't figured it out, Varrick's plan most likely would've succeeded. In book 3, he defeated Ming Hua because he knew that electrocuting the water would take her out. In book 4, he single-handedly brought down Kuvira's mecha giant, knowing that he could die because of it. Yes, he's the least developed member of team avatar, but he's so much more than just a brooding love interest
Thank you for this comment
I highly agree man. Mako needs more respect
My beef with LOK is its story it's characters are honestly kind of dull like you can see how good they could have been if the writers put a little more time in to fleshing them out...
but they kind of just mistreated most of their characters except tenzin which honestly he's one of the few things I like about LOK.
He's the only character with a proper arc
Yeah. Honestly, things like the love triangle might not have even been that bad if they delved more into what it meant to the characters. Why does Mako have trouble with relationships? Because of his past. Then we can grow to understand him more and think of him as less like just a jerk. Bolin gets a lot of amazing stuff on the show, but I feel like among the 4, he grows emotionally the least. Asami had a really interesting arc, but that was either used to further the plot (like in Book 2) or hastily crammed into Book 4.
I feel like with better character development, LoK could have been SUCH a better show.
He killed Ming Hua*
he must die, he disrespected lord momo of the momo dinasty!
Royal Momasty
I agree.
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* runs away like the end of that "Bending Battle" short *
And pabu,
they are some of the best characters in the entire franchise
I felt some type of way when I heard the lord momo cap
I really like Suyin because it just shows how likeable protagonists don’t always have to be great people. I love watching her, I cant help but like her as a person, but boy is she a selfish hypocrite. I just think that’s an interesting way to write a character.
i'm not sure what I missed but what did suyin do that's so cruel lmao
@Grace Fu however I do 100% agree she is done dirty a lot and the bitter lonely woman line by korra rly pissed me off
I think people hate on Su too much.
Yes she did bad things and ran with a bad crowd in her youth but so did other characters like Kai who stole things from others and Mako and Bolin who once worked with the triple threats.
Both Lin and Su grew up with Toph as a mother who wanted them to be free due to not feeling she had enough freedom as a child which affected BOTH kids and it’s one thing for Lin to not wanna be on good terms with Su but she had no right to take it out on Su’s daughter and Su and Toph did work things out.
As for Su not helping the earth kingdom when it was in anarchy she actually made a good point in that marching in and taking over it wouldn’t automatically solve all the rioting and chaos. After all the people of the earth kingdom were previously ruled by a selfish queen who took air benders against their will for her own agendas so the people of the earth kingdom likely wouldn’t automatically accept someone coming in and trying to tell them what to do.
@Grace Fu I'd have to agree, she was a selfish and very harmful hypocrite with very likeable exterior and personality, which as some have coined it; "making her morally grey". Aside for Toph, she really contributed a lot to the fracturing of their family and it was one of the biggest things that kept me grinding my teeth at the show because of how they seemingly reward and openly apologise for abusive and terrible characters, while lambasting cartoonishly traumatised and abused ones like Lin. I guess it makes sense for Korra to side with Suyin like that, they're both abusive pricks that never got their comeuppance from the people who come from a genuine place, both being horribly abusive to people they are closest to.
@@dmastermanga Korra called out Lin for going off at Opal who was only trying to be nice. Opal tried to communicate and get to know her aunt and she threw a tantrum at her that was meant for her sister. Korra was right to call her out at that moment because Lin was being a prick. Even later all she says is to apologize to Opal.
In regards to Su, she's a snake, but she turned her life around, became a mother and founded Earth Kingdom's most impressive city. She sits high on her own horse, but she's definitely changed for the better and she did try to reach out to make amends. Lin didn't want any of that and that isn't Su's fault.
I don't think any party was in the right.
It never bothered me that Korra lost her connection to the Avatars. I actually respect the writing staff for taking a risk like that. That gave the fight stakes and lasting consequences. It’s fine if you dislike Korra’s character, but sometimes people hate on her just because.
BTW, I would love a Red Lotus prequel series as a novel or a comic book.
Also it makes sense with the show's thesis of progression. In the ATLA finale and especially in the comics the past avatars could no longer give Aang meaningful advice because the world has progressed beyond their knowledge and their wisdom is antiquated. Future avatars would be hindered by the past avatars.
Kendal Kendorable I totally agree. Aang didn’t have to take any of the Avatar’s advice and most of the time he didn’t lol. Aang and Korra chose their own paths at the end of the day. The connections to the past Avatar’s isn’t a necessity in my opinion.
Ellie Fuller That would be a cool storyline for a 3rd series.
Kendal Kendorable I disagree with this because aang proves to be useful to korra when she lost her bending and I think he could’ve been really useful with korras ptsd
@@Kendorable
That's not what happened in the comics Aang was pissed at Roku because of what happened in that comic but later Aang realizes he needs Roku and the other Avatars for advice. Plus despite she spent less time with them Korra found out about Tarrlock from Aang and got her bending back because of him and found out about Vaatu from Wan.
Wait, people thought Korra INTENTIONALLY lost her connection to her past lives??
What is wrong with y'all? Why y'all out trying so hard to just be objectively wrong?
Most people that hate Korra don't make sense
I think its because most people haven't been able to rewatch the series after it originally aired, which caused misconceptions like this to circulate.
The series was also aired poorly. Part of it was on TV, then put online only, then on TV again. Nickelodeon handles their best shows pretty bad lol
@@withlovemiki yeah
I think sometimes people refer to the show as “Korra” as a shorthand rather than the actual Korra.
Okay. HOW DOES SOMEONE THINK SOOOOMEONE (Not about Meelo, ANY character) IS ABOVE SOKKA IN TERMS OF COMIC RELIEF?
NEEEEVER.
peacendpola23 Imo Varrick is.
I don't think we get enough meelo, but i do think he gives sokka a run for his money
Meelo was more annoying than anything..sokka ftw
@@cpreston09 just cuz ya hate kids doesn't mean he was any more annoying than sokka lol. ATLA fanboys, man
Sokka was a meh character, Meelo a good character... That's why. ATLA have only a few good characters.
God it annoys me when people say it was korra’s fault that she lost her past lives.
She was the one who made the decisions that led to it
Wolfwarrior But she was lied to and manipulated, so it’s not her fault.
It really wasn’t her fault Raava was literally forced out her body, it’s Unalaq/Vaatu’s fault.
@@yutah. she trusted an uncle she just met over her father of 17 years ... the first thing she should have done when speaking to unalaq is figure out how to access the past lives for guidance on changing the world... so many things wrong
Wolfwarrior she’s a teenager, it happens. Especially because her father lied to her for so many years and her parents hid her from the world, so naturally she didn’t trust them for a little bit.
I would consider myself as a hardcore atla fan.. but i still love Lok
Bolin is mad underrated he learned to lava bend at 17 with no training that’s pretty bad ass also bopal is my favourite ship I think those are pretty unpopular opinions 😅
i like to think about it as oplin but whatever lol
Arjun as toph said the names change but the streets stay the same 😂actually don’t think that makes sense in this situation but whatever lol
He was a big simp at start tho.
Lava bending is natural extension, he didn’t have to learn he just figure out he could
nevermind404 true but so was aang
To add on to the Aang comment, people seem to forget how much of a flawed character he is in the last airbender as well. He lies to Katara and Sokka about the message from their father, he lies to Toph and Sokka about mastering the avatar state with Patiq. He burns Katara, and literally runs away from the air nomads to escape the responsibility of being the avatar. He isn’t perfect. He is only a person.
But in the end if he didn’t run away he would’ve been killed so in a way he saved himself
@@iloveowls90 that's not the point, the point was that running away wasn't nice, even if it was the right move in the end.
@@iloveowls90 I keep hearing this all the time that he would have died. I highly doubt that, he was literally being sent away (the eventual morning of his runaway) to learn the other elements and for his own protection.
It's not like he would have been in the air temples when the war was happening, he would have most likely been in the northern water tribe learning waterbending and seeing how competently the waterbenders of the north could fight the fire nation, he would have been pretty safe.
Unpopular opinion: Tarrlok and Amon where the only reason I found the first season interesting.
Unpopular opinions número dos: Tarrlok is underrated.
Same
Yes, Tarrlok was a good antagonist. But like Zhao, for some reason he's not so memorable.
As a diehard ATLA fan, I enjoyed LOK the first time watching and fell in love with it the second time. Anyone who didn't like it, give it another shot
Yeah you just have to not expect it to be exactly like ATLA ya know
I didn’t like it on my first watch a couple years ago (mainly due to Korra herself) but I ordered the series a couple days ago so I’m going to rewatch it when it arrives. I watched MANY videos from all ends of the spectrum of LoK fans/haters and got some new perspective. I’m excited to see how my opinions have changed, especially since I was like 13ish when I last saw it.
Corey Klaustermeier I had the same experience but didn’t get to watch the show fully because of school and I recently watched it fully on Netflix in a span of 4 days
@@coreyklaustermeier7329 That's great, I'm glad you watched both sides to get different opinions. I feel like most people nowadays only watch what they agree with.
I did notice that watching it a second time around I started to truly appreciate the social complexities and the variety of characters.
Next video- why didn't katara use the spirit water on jet when he was dying
LMAO daaaaayum.
Antoine Bandele Guess she didn’t care enough 😂
Or why she doesn’t just carry around a jug of it on Appa’s back
@@mactrammel Katara: Sorry Jet but Aang and Zuko actually are worth something
Sam Dude LMAOOO
The only problem about being early is that there aren't many good comments to read
Facts 💅
Then create one
General Grievous oh good gosh i cant believe i never thought of that im such an egg brain
you can come back now
People actually thought Korra decided to severe her connection with the Avatars?
Are we watching the same show?
🤔🤔🤔🤔
But Aang purposely severed his connection in the comics and no one says anything about that
@@F4keFelipx True
@@F4keFelipx I thought he only severed his connection with one: Roku, b'coz he hated firebending.🤔🤔 Maybe I don't know
I didn't think Korra did it on purpose, but it's still silly that it happened, for me. (Purely from a writing perspective) before 'Beginnings' the Avatar state was summoning the collective power and wisdom of past Avatars, however Rava still lives in her anyway (I guess). I know this is a bit pick, but the point is, she's able to still break the power sealing and do all this crazy stuff despite having her power source disconnected.
This is me being obsessed with consistency. It's just my opinion.
@@marshmallowvampire8503 The avatar state combines the knowledge and wisdom of the Past Avatars, Raava provides the power
The turtles gave humans the ability to bend and the “original benders” taught them bending techniques
Yep
True.
Hello Future Me did an excellent video explaining it that actually helped me a lot.
But the thing is, when he says Beginnings fixed "loopholes", well... it's a soft magic system so hard core rules are better left out not just because it's easier but it allows creative freedom. And from a non nerdy writer perspective, it just allows the world to be mysterious and seem broader b'coz of things that are unknown.
But that's just my opinion. It's not that big of a deal.
@@marshmallowvampire8503 I agree that sometimes some things should be left mysterious but when you want to build a literal universe (what Avatar creators said that they want to do. They want Avatarverse to be like Marvel Cinematic Universe or star wars universe or dc unverse) you will need that time by time reveal all vague and mysterious things in the lore to expand it further and be easier to grasp later in the whole circle
@@Trans_SovietBee disagree. Harry Potter universe managed to do just that without explaining the origins of the magic.
beginnings overwrote the lore, in my opinion.
In the cave of two lovers they went out of their way to show the first human earth benders Oma an Shu learning from badgermoles. That would have been the time to mention the Lionturtles. But not a single lionturtle was shown there.
In beginnings they could have shown Oma and Shu, but instead they retconned the story and showed people receiving bending from lionturtles. No badgermoles were shown.
One thing that people never consider about Beginnings and the Lion Turtles giving the bending is that it references the Last Airbender. When Aang learns to energybend, it is what the Lion Turtles do to give and take bending. The Lion Turtle shows Aang how to take bending away, and he does it in the same way they do it, modified for humans. I hope that makes sense.
Edit: The main purpose of this comment was just to be my thoughts on the concept of Lion Turtles being the source of bending, with the Dragons, Sky bison, Badgermoles, and Moon being the teachers. Just a part of the bigger picture. This wasn't about Beginnings as a whole, though if you want that, then read Lore Goblin's comment and watch Hello Future Me's "Beginnings: An Overdue Critique"
YUP
Thats not what being referenced means. It's the same way dragoms didnt give anyone fire bendkng despite them being the teachers
True, but the Lion Turtles are already a thing of contention amongst fans of ATLA. It kinda came out of nowhere and was kind of a cop-out for Aang. Also, people don't like it because it made avatar less compelling just watch Hello Futures Me's video on Beginning and you can understand.
okay, so, here's my issue with the way the spirit world was treated throughout the whole of the Legend of Korra: mysticism and aesthetic.
beginnings didn't ruin the lore in the sense that it added information that made things make less sense... it weakened the mysticism of the lore by over explaining things that we didn't need to know. I do not need Koh the face stealer's life story. I only need to see Koh the face stealer for one tense scene. and I will pick up on the idea that, in a mythic sense, this is an ancient thing that has seen eons pass... something primordial and strange. or like, in the video, the comment that mentions beginnings talks about questions raised by the legends of early benders learning bending from nature... stuff like "could Tui and La teach Sokka to waterbend" or whatever. but that is taking things way too literally. these are fables. folk tales. they tell of something from a long, long time ago. it's something where the people of the modern day passed it down, but they don't really know if it's true or not... like how I, as a modern person, relate to the myth of Promethius stealing fire from the gods to give to mankind. sometimes you have to let some of your story rest on the things that we know for sure, and sometimes you have to let some of your story rest on the spaces between. sometimes the things that a viewer's mind will wander to in the absence of concrete answers is better than what could be described in explicit detail.
and beyond that is the aesthetic of the spirit world. which my heart is completely divided about, because ultimately, I think that the visual style of beginnings is very beautiful to look at. but it is simply the wrong choice for what they're trying to depict, in the same way that this story beat is the wrong choice for the kind of mystical, folkloric role that spirits are supposed to play in the Avatar series. older ATLA spirits borrowed a lot from the feel that I get off of yokai... they seem at once to be eerily physical beings... moreso than ghosts. they're almost like fae folk... kind of with their own sense of morals or priorities, and they don't prioritize letting humans in on what their morals or priorities even are. in some ways, they're unfathomable. and they're very naturalistic... the things they don't communicate kind of read the same way as when you stumble upon a wild animal in the woods. it's intelligent, though you don't necessarily know what it is thinking, or what it might do, and your own level of comfort or safety is not necessarily it's concern.
to get a little more specific in my complaining: the aesthetic of the spirit world is too bright and saturated in LoK. everything is candy colored, and a lot of the spirits are basically just pokemon. and in regards to Rava and Vatu... I get what is being said about balance in this video. he's saying that it's not as though "balance" means needing equal amounts of good and bad, thus necessitating a certain amount of bad in the world to balance good in a very literal way... rather, it's more of a yin and yang, push and pull sort of thing. but Rava and Vatu are still very explicitly coded as good vs. evil, which I'm not a fan of. that feels so... western values of them? true yin and yang doesn't code traits as good or evil... just in opposition. for example, truth vs. ideals could be seen as opposing concepts with effective uses and things to watch out for. if you have too much truth, you start to become critical, cynical, possibly even paranoid in your skepticism. but if you become too idealistic, you can become delusional, disingenuous, or even complacent about reality in favor of a narrative you've let yourself believe in instead. that said, truth keeps you sharp, and grounded in reality, while ideals keep you hoping for better things, even if stuff seems bad in the moment. this is a true push and pull between opposite concepts. neither one is good or evil. and you can see how a person would benefit from keeping a balance between the two, and not letting one or the other take over their mindset in full.
obviously that's only one example, but you can see how this idea of yin and yang as equal and opposing forces could permeate other areas of thought and action, to create an all encompassing ideology. to me, Tui and La already showed this very well. of the two, neither one was coded as bad or good... they simply revolved around each other in a kind of symbiosis. each needed the other in order to define themselves, like the physical phenomenon of shadows in relation to light. this could never have been how anyone would see Rava and Vatu based on their visual presentation... they are very much presented as good and bad. they are literally black and white. and while Tui and La were black and white as well, they each had a bit of the other's color on them.
basically, the visual style of beginnings is too bright, literal, and explicit. everything loses its philosophical complexity because the show tells you the answers too much. you don't get to think on the concepts it brings to the table and come to your own conclusions. and it isn't cohesive with ATLA at all in terms of that.
this is not to say that I didn't like anything about beginnings... and I think people should be happy watching it for the thing that it is. I'm not begrudging anyone their enjoyment. but what I've said here remains the way that I feel about how it slots into ATLA's lore.
Lore Goblin that was beautiful bro
I think Iroh did in fact found love but it wasn't with a person... It was with tea
Lol you funny
*rolling my eyes*
@@gumballwatterson5037 no one needs you den, lmao bye
he did actually fall in love with a girl...
her name was jasmine
This actually changed my mind about a few things. I've always loved the fight scenes in lok and the more modern fighting styles. Kuvira is basically a boxer, Zaheer is super aggressive with airbending, etc.
I feel like most of Korra's issues always ties back to the production woes. Ugh. If only Nickoledeon was clearer with what they wanted to do instead of always changing their minds the last minute, writing would be better and the characters would be fleshed out better.
And if they got the same 20 episodes like ATLA got every characters of the Avatar universe would most likely be good characters in general. But still, it's a good show!
Korra was decreasing in ratings I’m sure that y they couldn’t run 20 episodes a season but don’t blame them she had so much to live up to
@@xavierprince5753 But that's also their fault mostly. First of all, originally they were only going to give Korra 12 episodes so essentially 1 book. But then they told the creators that they're going to have another season almost towards the end of book 1 so they had to change things up again. Which means that the writing has to change big time. And that's a general theme with Korra: production woes that result to not the greatest writing.
As far as I know, Korra was giving GoT a run for their money in ratings for at least 1 book.
And why would you say that she had so much to live up to as if she's the one writing, producing, and animating her story? lmao
It all goes back to what Antoine was saying where fans blame Korra (when it was Unavaatu or precisely, the writers) as if it was her own conscious self deciding to take her past lives away from her.
Lincoln Learns Art ohh I understand ur take on that. Thanks for correcting me but the amount of changes they did drove the fan base away from korra and the fact that we didn’t see her learn the elements or go on journeys and show the true qualities of a good avatar helped too.but the change was a bit too overwhelming
@@xavierprince5753 They had to shorten the timeline of her learning the elements because they were only originally going to have 1 book. Plus they have to make a good story and develop the characters in 12 episodes. Is that enough? Absolutely not!
Had they given this series the same opportunities and playing field as ATLA, a lot of it's issues would not exist. ATLA never had to worry about any of this. Haha. I guess all I'm saying is it's those executives fault for not having a clear cut direction as to where Korra was going which is what I originally said with my comment. This show (and other shows) would have been great if not for production woes.
And now, it seems like Netflix plans to do the same thing with the live action of ATLA. What is up with these production companies?
If they had 20 episodes a season, knew what they were going to do from the beginning and had korrasami as the endgame relationship in mind since season 1, I honestly think that tlok would’ve been better than atla. Like IMAGINE what they could’ve done with the red lotus. They didn’t even have flashbacks to korra as a child, or anyone’s childhood for that matter.
Okay I’m gonna say it. Mako is not the only to blame on what went down with the love triangle.
People seem to forget that he did in fact reject Korra because he was dating Asami. And she was the one that impulsively kissed him.
Regardless that he was giving signs he was interested in Korra too. She played a part in the chaos that happened in the relationship.
And it really annoys me when everyone puts the blame on Mako. Because I’ll say it again, ya don’t kiss someone else’s significant other even if they may be giving signs of interest.
Ya just don’t
I think it's not Korra's fault either. Hear me out. She's a teen who didn't experience being a normal teen and didn't taught about love by her parents because they are focus on secluding her, protecting her and training her as an avatar in the South. That's all she knows. Then she goes to republic city and has a crush. She don't know what she gonna do about it because Mako is already taken but Pema kind of gave her a bad advice. She told her about her and Tenzin love story where he is still dating Lin. So maybe that's what go through her mind. Confess to the guy you like so you both end up together or something like that. Again, she's a teen but she learns thru experience. Hahaha!
BE HAPPY I understand but that doesn’t make it okay and it doesn’t shift any fault from her.
I never said was her fault exclusively, I’m just saying she played a part in it too.
Korra pulled an Aang.
Why does everyone forget that Pema told Korra to go for it - she was taking an older woman's advice: the wife of her master. And it had worked for Pema, so...
@Menkir Dennis
Was it, though? Didn't Tenzin leave Lin for Pema? Didn't Mako eventually end up leaving Asami for Korra? "Homewrecker" lol They're teenagers; teenagers rarely date for more than a few weeks.
The Red Lotus has the most interesting fights in either series
Ehm the last agni kai ehm
Heru Jr. of Kemet I respect ur opinion, even if it is wrong :)
@@jax1384 a opinion can't be wrong
If we're going to talk about punching and kicking, literally no one talks about how Zuko punches and kicks 90% of his firebending
Nope. ATLA get amnesia when it comes to that.
But that was because of the martial arts that inspired Fire bending in the first place. In ATLA each bending had its own unique style, and if iirc in Korra all fights are "samey-y" (it's been a while since I watched it but I don't remember any that stands out)
BUT he incorerates breakdancing moves (antiones words not mine) and learns the breath of fire from iroh, he redirects lightning, and honestly what else is he supposed to do? it comes from the body, how else is the fire gonna get out
@@edennara I rewatched about 20 fights, and it's not even as much boxing/punching as people say it is. It's really only the 3 probenders that fight like that along with fire benders. @Jesús Reyes I'll have to agree with you on the fire bender thing. Anyone else outside of them fighting normally with about 15% punching/boxing.
@@MrAlquimista666 ^^
Something that even I forget from time to time is that korra takes place over at least 5yrs while avatar was no more then a yr
in between season one and two is six months, in between two and three is a short time, maybe a few weeks at most. 3 and 4 is 3 years
People literally forget that aang almost ended the avatar cycle without katara's spirit water. Korra lost the connection to previous avatars and that wasn't even her fault.
But doesn’t Korra nearly end it too?
Yeeuuuuppp!
That wasn't his fault either lol. It's not even that he lost in a fight, when he went into the avatar state I don't think it was his intention to float up into the sky and give Azula an easy target
Korra was kinda the reason it got to that point for trusting her uncle way too much, but I don't blame her for that
In the comics he literally ended the cycle. Not only did he lose connections he almost ended the avatar cycle
Milo is pretty funny
“Look to your left now look to your right one of those men will not make it out alive!” I use That one myself😂
Hahaha!
As much as I like Pema, imagine if Tenzin and Lin stayed together!
Lin and Tenzin together = No kids = No Jinora.
I like Jinora.
Yeah but if the theory that Sokka was suyin’s father is true then tenzin and Lin would have been some sort of step cousins
But hey just pointing it out not awkward at all🤗
Manuel Novas actually, if Lin & Tenzin had children together, those children would be very powerful b/c they’d have Aang & Toph’s genetics.
I like them together, but honestly, the thing that makes their relationship spicy is the fact that they broke up in the past. If we wouldn't have known ABT the differences and stuff, beifongs sacrifice wouldn't have the same impace
Also when su says no wonder Tenzin ended things with you, it broke me, in a good way
@@sayyidf.b.6378 And Katara's.
You hit the nail on the head with Zhu-Li and Varrick IMO
No i think they had that pepper tony thing going on
@Ellie Fuller I think the idea was Varrik took her forgranted because he didnt realize how good he had it..once he lost her he realized which is why his feelings and treatment of her changed. Also, she wasnt ever a slave, she was willfully employed and could quit at anytime..it makes sense that only someone who was actually secretly in love with their boss would stay and put up with all his demands and ecentricities on Zhu Lis part..but she deffinatly did see that he didnt value her which is why she didnt go back to being his assitant in the end. Power dynamics can change, and in the end, their dynamic was equalized as she herself said he needed to treat her as an equal if he wanted her back in his life. But I also dont think the relationship was thought through in S2. It was probbaly halfway through S3 or at the start of 4 that they thought it would be a good angle. Which like the rest of LOK is why it feels like it comes out of no where.
@@vianjelos yes, she was strong enough to leave him if she wanted, but she never did because she stayed with him voluntarily. And I agree, she had already feelings for him.
I feel like Amon as a blender has a justified motive. It was bending that ruined his childhood and as he says bending caused the bad things in his life and many wars. It seems justified to me that he actually wants bending out of the world
blender?
@@samiranghosh9535 we must end all blending. we can only use stones and mortars now.
Aang feeling insecure in his masculinity is an interesting opinion. I always thought that his anger (Aang-er) at being played by a woman was a remnant of the times this was written in; specifically, how boys and men are taught that being compared to a woman is the ultimate insult, so Aang’s reaction was meant to be relatable to the boys in the audience.
I never got the sense that Aang was insecure in his masculinity, because a lot of his so-called ‘feminine’ traits (avoidance, lack of persistence, tactical approach, emphasis on speed and evasion over strength, emotional expression, and desire for peace) were characteristics of Airbender culture as a whole, not just Aang as an individual. In the episode “Bitter Work”, a lot of Toph’s criticisms of Aang’s Airbender mentality make sense; she’s an Earthbender who happens to be the polar opposite of Aang, and-as a well-written character-thinks her way is better than the alternatives. However, Aang doesn’t seem upset over how his traits cause others to perceive him. He learns to stand his ground out of necessity, but continues to utilize air more than the other elements. Aang develops as a result of learning earthbending, but only because it’s his duty as the Avatar, not because of personal insecurity or outside pressure. And I, for one, think that’s awesome.
I love this sensitivity sometimes confused with something feminine, I think from the point of view of the fire nation the fact that he is not aggressive makes him feminine, I would so much like the series to go deeper into this, I watched the batman yesterday and the Robert has a bit of this about not knowing how to talk about what he's feeling, but it's easy to understand why he has this sensitivity, usually very masculine men get bitter when they don't get what they want
@@danielalaiz419 yeah, that sensitivity was a really fascinating facet of Aang’s character. I wish it was explored more.
Unpopular opinion: Momo vs Appa was the best fight in avatar. AANG VS OZAI WHO?
PERIODT
I always thought when people say it was Korra’s fault the avatar connection was severed, they meant that it was her fault because she was defeated and Unalaq took raava out of her. Therefore if Unalaq never got the best of her than the connection would still be there. But if they literally meant it the way you described it in the video, than yes that is ridiculous
CRAZY ridiculous.
Cheyenne Harrigan even if they meant it was her fault cuz she was defeated, it wasn’t rlly her fault either, she didn’t go “Eh I guess I’ll just lose cuz I’m bored” which is also ridiculous
@@nagapandian yes. It was due to Unalaq having full awareness of his spiritual understanding and where that aligns. While Korra was still in the midst of learning her spiritual capability.
Naga Pandian I mean even though she fought and didn’t just lay down, it’s still mostly her fault. If aang had lost to Ozai and the fire nation continued to conquer the rest of the world, people wouldn’t say, “ it’s not really aang’s fault’ it’s not like he just gave the world to Ozai. It wouldn’t matter, it would be his fault why the world would have been out of balance and same for Korra’a situation
Cheyenne Harrigan I still don’t think it’s their fault if they lost but we all have a opinion so yeah lol
Best character in TLOK was Tenzin
That is definitely not unpopular
Yeah nah not unpopular. Goated character
And thats a fact
He's not my favorite, but he's probably one of the top 5.
I agree with this! I love Tenzin
Pema is underrated and not completely at fault for Lin and Tenzins breakup. Sure she was the last crack in the glacier, but Tenzin and Lin did the rest.
If Tenzin ended up with Lin there’s a lot less of a chance for the air bending genes to pass on to their children because you got those godly Beifong earth bender genes in there. That’s if Lin would even want kids. Pema saved the air nation before harmonic convergence.
If Iroh never found love, then who's Lu Ten's mother?
One night stand? Mum left for the milk?
I assume Azulan arranged his marriage, and maybe the wife died after childbirth? Maybe Iroh doesn't want someone in that way anymore?
BOOOOOOMMMMM!!!!
Iroh = part man part women part demigod
I love how wholesome this guy is
Also I can tell he work really hard and cares about this channel
It seems like nobody likes Mako 😭
The thing I like about Mako is his blunt and honest personality cause thats how I am to a lot of people. But we mean well lmao.
Of course its supposed to add comedic value because Mako and Bolin are polar opposites to each other. Mako uses logic while Bolin uses his beliefs. Which is why I like their relationship.
I think Mako is the way he is because he has been taking care of him and Bolin from a young age. He didn't have a privileged childhood like Korra and Asami.
Mako doesn’t deserve the hate he gets honestly like he didn’t do anything that is so bad to the point people hate on him.
The thing is people expected Zuko and ZUATARA from mako and makorra, and the latter is more relatable, but Zuko is more inspiring definitely
@@shapy9539 that is true. But for people to say he's completely bland like he didnt live on the streets along with bolin and was part of a gang for years kinda makes me sad :(
Mako deserve better on the show
I think Aang not being a perfect father is fine. However, I highly doubt Katara would let Aang be like that. I have no problem with the narrative. I just feel it wasn’t executed properly. If it was more like Boruto with how Naruto is I think it would be better.(To be fair Naruto is alive in Boruto(for now) so I think that’s why it works better in Boruto because we get to see Naruto side of the story).
Book 1: pretty good
Book 2: good/hilarious
Book 3&4: DAAAAAAAMN. I DIDN'T KNOW YOU COULD MAKE A SHOW THAT GREAT FOR TWEENS.
for me book 4 was the worst and i actually think book 3 and 1 are joint first
@@a_bruuuhhh9286 I agree, although I now think 4 isn't as bad as I once thought because of Korras irl relatable arc/inner battle with depression etc, just the finale is meh compared with 1 & 3, shoulda been Amon as the final boss
@@a.bit.Sketch yeah tbh now i think s3 is the best by far and season 4 is arguably the worst or season 2. season 1 was good but i think it had tons of wasted potential and amons character was handled badly
in kataras eyes how is a scar more important than a dying man
She was still salty at her ex lol
Wow! The only reasoning I can come up with is they were being chased by the Dai Li considering the scene after that.
I’m a die hard avatar fan since I was younger, and I love korra! I do like the darker tone it takes. The only thing I wasn’t a fan of was the love triangle with Korra Asami and Mako. The shows not perfect, but I like seeing how things turned out in that universe after the gaang was finished with their work.
Korra was not dark at all.
@@adeptdamage3669 I meant darker then the original series
Unpopular opinion: Amon was far better than Ozai. He was a terrifying villain, a real threat to Korra, his ideology was sound, his design was badass. Ozai felt more like a video game villain rather than an actual character in a show.
i agree about amon, but ozai was a very good villain in my opinion lol
I agree but azula was the best
Amon was badass. I wish he was in the show beyond season 1
I think that's because Ozai was just pure evil. Amon on the other hand, had a actual motive. He not only practiced one of the most dangerous styles, but had a tragic backstory.
@@leighbelk769 I think it has to do with Ozai being a more background villain. He was very important to the story, but almost everything he does is in flashbacks or mentioned. Let's just make a hypothetical scenario to prove his irrelevance in the final part of the story. Let's imagine that Ozai was sick and he was dying. Everything with Zuko and the day of the black sun happens the same, but Ozai actually dies before the comet and his second evil brother or something takes the rains. Zuko still fights Azula and wins, both characters get their endings, and Aang fights that new evil guy and wins. Apart from that last scene with Zuko asking for his mother absolutely nothing changes. Aang has no personal quarrels with Ozai, but with the leader of the fire nation, thus he is replaceable there. Neither Zuko, Iroh nor Azula confront him ever after that, so nothing changes as well. Ozai was a great plot point, but not a great character.
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FUERA JOH MAJE !!! Y que ricas las baleadas jajaja
@@Maniac61675 Fuera JOH hermano! Que bueno que a varios de Hn nos guste Avatar!
Unpopular Opinion: I liked the CONCEPT of a dark avatar, despite how poorly it was executed.
I agree. The whole point of Raava and Vatu is balance so if there is an Avatar then there should also be an anti avatar
I don’t agree. It just reminds me of stereotypical “oh lemme slap some dark colors onto something and call it the evil version of something”.
I’m pretty sure Raava and Vatu were meant symbolize chaos and order. Making one evil or dark and the other good is very basic.
@@meow-en4wk like I said, I like the concept, but not necessarily how it was executed.
JeriahReacts I know, but the concept itself is very stereotypical.
My opinions on Aang being a bad father I like that he wasn’t a perfect parent. It makes sense that he had a difficult time being there for his kids because he was focused on his Avatar responsibilities. I can also understand that he could unintentionally spend more time with Tenzin his only air bending kid. I think the fact that he was so obvious about Tenzin being his favorite and the fact the he only took him on vacations that is hard to believe and it’s also hard to believe that Katara would have let that happen. Maybe the vacations they went on were trips to learn air bending but had fun along the way or something and that’s why Tenzin thinks they were vacations
Ok yeah but when they were getting married and he said “you may now, do the thing” that was so cute
Honestly losing the past lives is neither a good nor bad decision. It was just a decision, as simple as that, and people would'nt care much if we got to see more of the gaang as adults, which can be fixed by making a short series anytime instead of some non-canon live action, which even the authors couldn't bear to be a part of.
i disagree i think taking away the past lives was great for Lok i didn’t like it but i think it was great that the avatar state had to restart because the past lives don’t always benefit the current avatar like how roku told aang to kill his own grandson, and when aang went to his predecessors for help they all told him to kill ozai. and last but not least the world was entering a new era of technology and modernization so i thought how much help would the past lives really be besides the avatar state
IIcOnIc_Sw1ft YT tbh if it wasn’t for a lion turtle he just so happened to meet killing was probably the only choice to kill ozai. Having someone to talk to is always going to be good even with a new technology age.
FaTaL Reckz the point i was trying to make is they won’t be able to asses future avatars to the standardized need
Yes I want a little series about team avatar
IIcOnIc_Sw1ft YT what does technology have to do with giving someone your advice on a topic.
Unpopular opinion: Pabu is cuter than Momo
I’m good with this one tbh. Pabu is adorable
That's unpopular?
You dare disgrace our lord and savior momo the great
He *is* Very Cute, Yeah.
No
I had read a lot about how 'bad' LoK is.. and I started watching it yesterday (bcs I wanted more avatar content) with a pre set mind.. and you know what, I loved it. I finished book 1 in one night. The fights are lit af🔥
Honestly I think Korra’s a better character than Aang. Yah, she’s kinda annoying in season 1 and 2 at times, but Aang was a little annoying at the beginning of season 1 tbh. And while Aang was a borderline perfect character without an evil bone in his body, Korra constantly struggled with herself and her failures, making her feel very much human and like her mistakes have consequences. Almost every over ATLA character surpasses the LOK Korra’s though.
Then again she is just Aang reincarnated 😂 I think people forget that part 😂
Finally, more people bringing up the fact that losing the past lives isn't necessarily a bad thing, or more, the fact that their wisdom isn't necessarily all that useful. People act like they're so important, but if we look to the original series, Aang really did not use his past lives that much, he only spoke to Roku when it was relevant, and then called upon them for opinions on how to stop Ozai, and as was brought up in the video, none of the answers were what he wanted to hear. Also imo the past lives can only go so far, the older an avatar, the less relevant their wisdom could be, because their experiences and their world was likely much different than the current Avatar's. I really like that Shadow of Kyoshi addressed this too.
"There's a thousand generations of past lives in the Avatar cycle. You could spend a thousand years talking to us, and you still wouldn't know how best to guide the world. This is what you must forgo, Kyoshi, the easy answers. you must give up your desire for someone to tell you your choices were correct in the world."
I think in Korra they definitely made the past lives seem less relevant. The avatar state was more like a slight boost which kind of upset me. I disagree on this one mostly because the past lives are extremely helpful in the avatar state, and without it many battles would’ve been lost in both shows.
I found myself agreeing with a lot of these opinions. Particularly the one about Varrick and Zhu Li (Even if Varrick is one of my favourite characters) as well as about Aang as a parent.
07:13 what do you think happen if Tenzin only have 1 air ending children like Aang ? Would Tenzin do the same thing like Aang ? And then we will see him as bad father because the way Aang teach him like that ?
Because I think I heard/read about avatar video/article where people have opinion that Tenzin Married with Pemma (Non-Bender) because it will multiply the possibilities to have a Airbending kid
(Sorry for my english.still learning)
I think the official reason was because Lin didnt want any kids (Family issues). And obviously Tenzin wanting to preserve his culture. So he picked Pema
Aang’s bad parenting also results from the pressure of his duties as the avatar. As far as Aang was concerned, after he died, Tenzin would be the last air bender until he had children. And even if everything worked out where Tenzin had 4 airbending children, the next avatar still needs to learn airbending and it’s place in the balance of the world. It’s no different than Tenzin trying to teach the new airbenders in season 3 and each one having issues grasping a culture they weren’t raised in. There’s an entire culture that’s been wiped off the face of the world. It’s not just about bending the elements, it’s about learning the cultures and how they all balance each other. And regardless of how Aang feels, his duty as the avatar to ensure there’s at least one airbender alive with the culture’s knowledge, would be of a higher priority than whether or not he spends enough time with his children. And that would be something I could easily see weighing heavy on his conscience
I'm so glad you mentioned that "balance" isn't just light and dark 50/50, so many people misinterpret that!
Destiny 2 deals with Light and Darkness a lot, and the lore has one of my favourite quotes on the subject:
"I believe in balance. But to seek balance is not to seek equity. A sea half of water and half of poison is not in balance. A body half alive and half dead is not in balance. Given the choice to live in any world, any world at all... we would need a little darkness in it, I think, to keep the balance true. But not so much as we would need the light."
I LOVE the idea about an episode dedicated to the Red Lotus...I wish they implemented that but like you said, the seasons were just too short.
11:10, I dont think korra is the last avatar. she ends up getting raava back from vaatu's chest. As long as there is raava, she can find a new body to be in and make them the avatar. as long as there is raava, there is the avatar. i think the next avatars would have connection to past lives.
Korra isn’t the last avatar but she would’ve started over the avatar cycle as the first avatar. I think the next avatar would only have connection to korra as a past life, but unavaatu severed the connection to the rest of them before korra
Chief Cleve thats not how it works
It doesn’t restart with her its legit gone
An avatar can’t ever talk to an old avatar ever again
So instead Korra wrote bunch of letters for the next avatar because she won’t be there to talk
@@Seven-vn6qi Actually you are wrong. Korra refused Herself with Raava the exact same way that Wan did. Starting at Korra, new Avatars will have a connection of their past lives back until Korra. No, they won't be able to connect past her but there is literally no reason to believe they can't connect to past lives that are Korra or afterwards.
Flying Dutchman because its the letters have legit been written so its canon
Revenant but I thought tenzin made her write those letters as a back up/contingency plan just in case she won’t have the connection to future avatars. He said “ Future Avatars may not have connections to their past lives“. Operative word “May not” meaning they don’t know for sure if that’s gonna happen.
But the show goes out the way to point out that korra refused with raava and reestablished the avatar cycle, she did the very same thing wan did when he began the avatar cycle, so I don’t see why future avatars shouldn’t have connection to her. I understand how they may not connect to avatars before korra since Korra lost those, but I don’t see why the next avatar shouldn’t connect to korra
I personally think the reason why LOK doesn’t hold up to/isn’t received well as ATLA is mainly cuz the bad aspects of the show outshine the good parts. ATLA has flaws but you barely noticed bcuz it had a compelling and cohesive story w/ strong character arcs and development. ATLA ended in 2008 and it’s still to this day memorable. I just finished watching LOK on Netflix and I barely remembered what happened. By all means LOK isn’t a bad show, it’s great in some aspects but just gets overshadowed by the bad.
imo what makes lok not so good is the fact that there were too many characters, too much story and too little time to actually feel something for them. Relationships seemed to end as fast as they started and characters developed too fast or not at all. ATLA was so good because it was a slow burner with a relatively small main cast, I mean I don't even know who the main characters in LOK are, Korra, Asami, Bolin, and Mako? But then there are so many other characters who take the spotlight so often that it's hard to tell. It just seems disorganized at times, still a good show but it has a lot of issues.
I completely agree with the comment about ATLA being more simple than LOK. imo, LOK was written for an older audience. I know when ATLA ran, I was still in elementary school, but when LOK premiered, I was in late middle school, and was a freshman in high school when it was finished. Just like when Pixar was doing sequels for some of their older franchises, the creators knew that their audience was getting older, and made a show for them.
I was way past the ATLA target market when it aired first, i became interested in ATLA when I watched the episode where the gaang discovered the air nomad genocide, i was like "cool, this is portrayed, i'm gonna watch this" , but then got bored because it feels like too childish for me because they were so laidback considering the responsibility so i stopped watching, then i watched the finale and felt underwhelm that there is no challenge at all, aang goes to avatar stated and that's it.
When i watch TLOK, it was jarring at first, then i saw in Korra her urgency to always be on the forefront of the problem and try to solve it immediately, i think maybe it jived with my personality so i liked it more. Plus when i saw her rebel against tenzin, her father etc.. Man i saw myself in her.
Aang is kinda boring really, compare to the explosiveness of kyoshi and korra.
Honestly one of my favorite small moments in the show is where Bolin and Mako get captured by the red lotus and Bolin starts up a conversation before getting scolded by Mako for being friendly with the enemy. Like, they were actually conversing back with Bolin and being friendly to him, having a bit of banter. I feel like if Mako hadn't said anything that whole talk could've gone on for hours
*Unpopular Opinion:*
Amon should've been the Final Villain for he is the most Powerful Villain among all Villains of TLOK
Idk if he is more powerful than other villains but I agree that it might have been better if they faced the villains in a different order
Fun fact Amon was killed off in the first season because LOK was supposed to be a one season series and they didn’t want any cliff hangers
@@Qxestionable, for me he IS the most powerful villain in TLOK
The Ability to remove Element Bending can only be done by the Avatar, until Amon's Father came in and Amon became an even more powerful version of his father.
I'm a Blackkking speaking of Amon returning, a little fun fact. Ming-Hua’s character in the red lotus came from a joke the creators were making about Amon surviving the explosion and lost his arms. That’s how Ming hua was armless and used water bending for her arms
Nah Unalaq is a thousand times stronger than Amon due to his avatar state.
Unpopular Opinion: I hate Meelo. I just think he’s so annoying and I never looked froward to seeing him on screen
I can see that. I personally liked him a lot more in the last 2 seasons (especially 4). But potty humor can be done right, and I don’t think it really was in Meelo’s case
I don't hate him, but he's overrated.
me mo, yeah
Same. He acts like a VERY disobedient and rude child, he needs to be spanked. I'm 100% sure that air benders/acolytes are not supposed to act rude, selfish, sexist, and self-centered. Not to mention that he blames his mistakes on others. He reminds me a lot of the two Bumi and the childish/fun Aang but he's just too much. Fart jokes; that ain't it. Don't mention the fact that he's a young child. It's extremely concerning that he acts like this. I hated it when he took the phone and acted all 'grown-up' and stuff. That's just rude. Pema, whatever happened to Meelo? That man needs to be disciplined.
i liked him for being annoying and mean, but i can 100% understand why someone would hate that.
The reason everyone is angry with the past lives disappearing is because aang disappears and that is what started the whole avatar fandom and created success for them it’s like destroying their prized trophy and it physically hurt when he disappeared because now he’s officially dead not in existence
Yeah, but that's Uunalang fault
they shouldn't be angry at Korra tho
Yea, it took me a while to see the loss of the past Avatar lives as anything other than Korra's fault. Mostly because I was too immature to understand how problematic victim blaming was. But I'll tell ya, rewatching Korra really allowed me to acknowledge the growth I have had as a person, for sure. I realized that the reason I didn't like it the first go around was because I was too immature.
I could never for the life of me, understand when people say that it was Korra's fault for losing the connection of the past lives, when she was trying to save Raava but couldn't because while Raava was getting attacked so was Korra (because the connection she had with Raava as the Avatar). However it does beg the question:
Could Korra or other Avatars regain the connection of their past lives???
@Bruce Wayne It wasnt nerfed, it just seems powerful in the hands of aang because he lacked control over it
@Bruce Wayne Immortal means you live forever, neither Aang nor any avatar for that matter is immortal.
Aang lacks control over the AS this causes more harm than good, and staying in it for far too long has negative consequences especially since this is what led to Aangs demise at 66yrs old.
Korra uses the avatar state the way it's supposed to be used in short controlled bursts, and she has Raava at her at full power, Korras foes are a lot smarter and more powerful as well. The dark spirit she faced was a lot stronger due to the amount of darkness in the world, the latter especially applies to Vaatu especially since he's the great spirit of chaos and darkness and thus draws power and strength from them and as a result his influence increases as well, Korra used the avatar state against him and she was winning despite the strength and power Vaatu had, she nearly sealed him away but her uncle pulled a sneak attack on her, in season 3 Korra was forced into the avatar state due to the mercury poison the Red Lotus used on her, and again despite this serious disadvantage she was winning against Zaheer, hell she had him running and she would've finished him had the mercury not taken effect, and in season 4 when Korra entered it in her first round against Kuvira she was winning, but her PTSD got ahead of her
Almost everytime Korra went into the AS for combat purposes there was always something outside of her control that prevented her victory.
7:10 You know what I can agree with that for sure. We can’t expect Aang to be an amazing parent when he has barely seen any evidence that they exist, and any idea about parenting that he did have would have been over 110 years old from a culture that discouraged personal connections to parents (Air Nomads).
LoK also shows that the stress that Tenzin had about passing on airbending was put on by Tenzin himself and not Aang, as shown in the Fog of Lost Souls scene. It was Aang himself (or a vision of him) who urged Tenzin to stop emulating somebody else's life, in favor of shaping his own.
I still doubt that the writers of LoK actually thought of all that (if they did, good on them!). It’s probably us trying to come up with an explanation to why Aang isn’t as perfect and charming as in ATLA.
Either way, now I realize LoK is forgivable. But I still have a problem with that way the comics shredded Kataang apart. They made Katara act extremely jealous (which had already happened a tiny bit and been resolved in Season 3 of ATLA so one would think it shouldn’t happen again) and made Aang seem a bit clueless or oblivious to that (which doesn’t make sense, after a year of her being the closest person to him he should really be emotionally in touch with her). Considering how caring and selfless Katara was in ATLA 95% of the time it really doesn’t fit her character, nor Aang’s (in fact, Aang was the one who was more forward and unreciprocated in early ATLA). Even the suggestion of, “oh, she lost her mom so she wants to ‘take care’ of Aang” or “she’s 16, it’s hormones and stuff” don’t really excuse that. Yes, there were hints at her being insecure in ATLA, but those sorts of character flaws were “fixed” by the end of the show as she discovered more about herself and Aang never held them against her. So it’s not just “I liked Kataang and am just angry it didn’t work,” it’s more of “it would have made more sense anyway for them to at least stay very close friends, rather than developing an extremely rocky relationship after adoring each other ever since they met.”
I feel because we've gotten older we can understand LTK more
ATLK???
It’s just LoK
Yes.
People saying that it's Korra's fault regarding the past lives thing, it's like saying to any victim that it's their fault if they got hurt.
True
Yep
Ikr
The comment on Suyin just makes me think of Toph tbh. I love toph but she is pretty selfish, it was understandable in atla because she was still a kid and she was a sheltered rich kid but that part of her didnt change much in my opinion. Love suyin too not hate just stating my opinions.
Thats the point. Her bad parenting is a product of her bad childhood. Yeah she was sheltered but she had little to no freedom. So she made sure her kids had all the freedom they wanted. Is she wrong for that? Yes
It’s crazy how similar out thought processes are , you hit everything I was thinking of spot on. Might have to use this to point our some of your analysis to prove stuff to blind haters, like Aang’s father role.
I feel as if , airbenders during the genocide weren’t all there at the temples and that they hid in ba sing se . It wouldn’t make sense to make airbenders after the battle between vatuu and korra . I feel like some airbenders were being told about the secret traps in the mountains so they were very smart not to go cuz when they went they usually were killed off . So I feel like after that fight it maybe unlocked their air chakra and with bumi , his dad was an airbender so that makes sense right ? This is just my theory I really hope you read this I love your channel
There was an Avatar games years ago and there was an airbender that told the Fire Nation about the temples and their locations, helping in the genocide. He survived (from what I remember, apparently not canon though) for helping the Fire Nation. Although I really can help but think that not all the airbenders just lived at the temples, I mean they were nomads!
Here's my theory: Yes, the new airbenders have ancestry of airbenders. The airbenders weren't killed because they weren't at the temples and joined the Earth Kingdom for refuge. They lost their airbending abilities through generations because they're disconnected from their spirituality. (This happened to Kyoshi's mother, she abandoned her Air Nomad culture and her airbending was like blocked or something.) After Harmonic Convergence and the world being out of balance, balance was restored and new airbenders!
Also, Ty Lee is a descendant of airbenders in my opinion. (There's a whole theory lol)
Avatar: Not The Last Airbender?
I think a new versus series is in order. Pabu vs Momo(at least for an April fools)..
Ooo I can totally bring back VS April Fools
Unpopular opinion: they should make a series about the red lotus and show why they were trying to capture Korra.
I feel like Jinora and Asami are two of the best characters in the show and still go under-appreciated
And bolin too
Hard agree.
I just started watching these videos and this dude is really chill and smart! Can’t wait to watch more videos!!
I wanted to see more of the Fire Lord aka *Zuko's daughter.* In fact, i would've liked to see the *Fire Nation* in general. That's the only kingdom that wasn't explored. I get that it was the focus point for most of *Aang's* story but it would've been nice to see how it was reconstructed by *Zuko.* himself
I am absolutely in love with ATLA, but tbh I really enjoyed LOK for the most part. LOK actually hits close to home for me considering I’m a brown bisexual girl just like Korra, and I can relate to her in some cases
Honestly I loved the beginnings episodes and they’re actually some of my favorites, I really liked Wan’s character and I wish he had more screen time
Absolutely love your videos! It's awesome to hear you pick apart both the series in an unbiased manner. Having someone point out different things and talking about it makes me like both the series even more :)
Great video! I’ve also noticed a lot more respect to TLOK the past couples of weeks, it’s honestly refreshing to see.
Unrelated question.....
Why does no one have the same style of toph and bumi especially someone like bolin who admires toph
@Heru Jr. of Kemet and I get that but it's kind of like in boxing or in basketball when boxers and players simulate the style of those before them
King Benny Garcia Remember he is a probender which requires a vastly different and quicker fighting style
@@jadeprincepk ig but I dont think korra uses her pro bending style outside of pro bending
My unpopular opinion is that zhu lee had the best arc. She went from this silent yes-man, or I should say yes-woman, to a character who wants to be, and ends up getting respected, and (spoiler alert if you haven’t watched season 4) ends up marrying Varrick. Idk, I just love this shift in control, and I knew she didn’t betray Varrick!
Amon is the most powerful character apart from the avatar in the entire avatarverse.
@02JR Swag Counterpoint: Hundun.
Amon should have been able to remove bending without touching his victim (He uses bloodbending which isn't some kind doesn't need physical contact) even the Avatar won't stand a chance against that (Assuming that going into Avatar State won't enable it again).
Manuel Novas he’s not supposed to be able to bend though. That was a secret
momo
@@MENGGMS That would be sick but also too OP. I think its good the way it is. also maybe its like ming hua where she can bend water without touching it, but its easier to touch it
I really loved this video! I wish more people would follow the way you express your opinions. Whenever you disagreed, you did so with respect to their opinion and simply explained your reasoning. If more of the fandom followed this, it'd be a lot less toxic.
Love the vids man - keep diving deep on these 2 series and I’m loving it
Not quite an unpopular opinion, but my personal theory is that Momo from ATLA is a real world incarnation of Aye Aye from Avatar Wan’s story arc. Not only do the two resemble each other dramatically, and it is proven that spirits have different forms in the real world (the dog that turns out to be a spirit that Korra has met in the spirit tree for example), but Aang was told he would find his spirit guide at the Southern Air temple (where he finds Momo), he is always with him (even on the lion turtle) and unconventionally wise characters like Bumi were always concerned with Momo’s location. The ways that this line up are too close for them to be coincidence - and the creators are proven to be excellent at foreshadowing in many cases. Whether this is fact or head Cannon I’m happy with this for sure!
I actually agree with the "severing past lives is a good" opinion, It had alot of potential to allow good character development and it was really interesting to see how Korra could've performed without the guidance of her past lives
Unpopular opinion: I enjoyed The Legend of Korra more than Avatar the Last Airbender and I find myself going back to rewatch it much more often
Zaheer is such an amazing villian and in my opion the most interesting villian
I think the thing for Zhu Li is explained rather well actually. I had always wondered why she put up with Varrick and why she did the things she did.
She explained that she admired him and his work. The agency she took in book 4 is proof of this. She was always free to leave or could have even played it straight and joined Kuvira.
She believes in him and his vision, knows how she fits into his world, and understands his intentions and goals well enough to extrapolate what he needs in a situation.
Varrick is the originator. But Zhu Li is the one with the discipline and capabilities to be the finisher.
For him, he finds someone who can look past his oddities to find his actual intentions for a scenario. For her, she found someone who can solve a problems she also sees in the world in challenging and inventive ways
If there was ever a show that would benefit from a remake, Legend of Korra would be it. There's a great story that just had a lot of production problems. Now that the whole story is there, all there is to do is straighten out the wrinkles and reproduce it to a new audience.
Bolin IS waaaay more attractive than Mako. By a couple hundred of miles
Literally
Was really waiting for this comment.
Those eyebrows tho
@@idksomedude3032 his eyebrows are literally the best part 😏
HIMBO RIGHTS