When ''ivan'' looks at Till in the scene he doesn't have the shine, the real ivan always had a white spot when he looked at him, Something I realized is that the little music at the end is Till's heart, little by little it gets slower until Till dies and it's over (edit) -And something I'm interested in discovering is, Why is Till's microphone red the entire song but at the end it turns green? (Luka has the color green the entire song and there are many scenes focusing on the red color of Till's microphone for it to be 'nothing')
The red and green light somewhat represent their mood or something similar to that, Tills light being red for most of the round just represent him stressing out, and his stress relieved when he saw Mizi in the crowd, making the light turn green towards the end!
A victim that uses other victims' greatest traumas against them and laughs about it. If it's just about survival to him, he would not take joy in seeing Mizi and Till distressed. I like Luka's character, but not all victims are good people.
@@Sutidamuskunwell i honestly would have done the same, considering he probably doesnt know much about other contestants and doesnt care about them, except for Hyuna (and maybe Hyunwoo ?)as it was shown in the video All-in.
One of the main things I noticed watching for the first time is that Hyuna is still bleeding from the injury she got in round 6 which means that the final round probably happened later in the same day. This makes a lot more sense when you think about how stressed Till was and how much Ivan actively affected him during the round, because he JUST saw him die a couple hours ago. My poor boy I’m gonna miss him so much 😭
This is happening on the same day as round 6 as Hyuna and Mizi were breaking in at the end. So the blood could be from Ivan though i doubt it. Could be part of the costume. But that's also why Till started bleeding from the nose. Ya boy is STRESSED. Edit: Luka has purple fingers cuz he's chronically ill. He has Asthma, chronic migraines and congenital heart disease apparently.
"Well, there's our supervillain staring into the eyes of the all-beautiful Hyuna, wondering 'What the fuck are you doing here'..." TRUER WORDS HAVE NEVER BEEN SPOKEN. (Hyuna best girl)
16:10 i believe luka's fingertips are like that because he's pretty unhealthy. he couldn't fight back against mizi in round 5, he only could take her punches. every contestant in alien stage was engineered in a lab. and i've heard luka is like a pug in the way they're cute and loved, but have underlying health problems.
I think the score was more close towards the end because till started singing again (locking in) after seeing mizi which is why Luka looked a bit annoyed and worried when he also saw mizi and how till wasn't being effected by his manipulation
i agree, you can also see Luca getting agitated, which I think was him acknowledging Till was in that very moment outperforming him, and if Till continued like that for long that he'd probably win.
How I love alien stage, from the scene where Mizi leaves Hyuna to find Till is quite similar to the scene where Till leaves Ivan when they were attempting the escape, the fact Mizi and Till both did that for each other is crazy detail. Two, Tills flashbacks all coming back after Luka simply holds Tills neck, reminding Till of the time he was choked by Ivan, Luka triggered his memory just by the touch. Last, Till getting shot on the neck right in-front of Mizis eyes, the same spot where Sua was shot at the end of round 1. My IvanTill heart really can’t take this. But also, Tills flashback from Mizi smiling to Mizis tears falling on his face makes me sick. (A copypaste of my own comment on the final round video but-) And just some adds on, its really heartbreaking that Till only remember a glimpse of Ivan (+the scene from round 6 that also happened earlier that day) but got a whole flashback for Mizi once he saw her. Also the the score was actually really close if you pause it at the right timing. Its really sad that Till didn’t get to process Ivans death properly before they would meet each other at the afterlife so soon (alnst actually ruined me).
Answer to Luka’s purple fingers, it’s cause he has a health condition(I can’t remember what it’s called) but it’s the reason why he has a heart monitor, which I believe is the cords that he has on besides the collar. And also to answer if Alien stage is done/ended, a few people(allegedly) who have Vivinos’ patron said it’s only halfway done.
I had to face my trauma to watch your reactions, I’ve been avoiding seeing the thumbnail of Round 7 because of how much it hurt me I miss Till sm already 😢😢💔💔💔
Ivan's eyes always had the red pupils so the red in the eyes of 'Ivan' when Till saw Luka as Ivan was just because thats just how his eyes are lol. Also Luka's outfit is waaay different from Ivan's. You can see his outflit clearly in the start and it has that big back and chest window and Ivan's was more a classy suit. His outfit doesn't' change.
I am pretty sure luka was born heavily ill and is really malnourished and that why he is the shortest male and only character to have purple fingers as he is slowing dying because of the air
There's this one theory i seen that i thought was really cool is that the xylophone sound you hear during the flashback with Till and mizi is actually mizi's tears hitting till's face (Its probably one of my favorites ive heard)
the tip of luka's fingers being blue is a symptom of a heart disease called Raynaud's disease. It causes smaller arteries that supply blood flow to the skin to narrow, and it usually affects the toes or fingers turning them white or blue. In one of vivinos's posts there's a picture of luka doing a "heart rate valuability test" which could be the cause of his fingers maybe
Saying this as a luka fan: luka is a case of "abused becomes the abuser" and his alien (heperu, we see it in the interview) practically manipulated and groomed him into this 😭😭 also hyuna gave him a reason to sing, it was something like "it feels like this life is mine" since on stage, he isn't exactly controlled. To Heperu, Luka is not a living being with emotions, he’s nothing more than a product to invest in. It shouldn’t be difficult to realize that Luka’s controlling, manipulative personality and his distorted perception of love all stems from the way he’s treated by Heperu. One of the many skills Luka is trained to master is controlling his heart rate via the heart rate variability(?) test, especially tortuous to someone born with congenital heart disease. There was also artwork of this, and it was when all the cast were children. Luka’s entire life and identity is based on ALNST, it’s his everything. He is created specifically for the stage and has no other purpose in life than being a source of entertainment for the aliens. Everything to his genetics to his mannerisms, are all carefully modified and crafted to satisfy the aliens’ preferences. He’s like a doll in a way. he is incredibly passive and obedient, he has no sense of autonomy nor has he ever tried fighting for it, he fully surrenders and submits to the aliens’ control not only as a result of being brainwashed and groomed into doing so at a young age but also in order to survive. The food preferences comic shows us just how greatly the lack of control in one’s own life affects Luka, it causes him to never fight back or stand up for himself whenever he’s wronged by others, he just allows it to happen. He has the biggest appetite in the group and loves sweet foods but couldn’t eat much due to strict managements, yet he never opposes this even if it’ll do more harm than good to his already weak health (we saw that he's very skinny here, in one of his full body shots at the start, we see his ribs). His tendency to suck on things such as his sleeve (and Hyuna too apparently) is most likely developed as a result of his constant hunger and he’s doing that to temporarily forget and cope with it. Luka genuinely enjoys singing, it’s the only thing that brings him the feeling that his life is his, that he has even just the tiniest bit of control over it. for Luka, he’s manipulating others to insert control over and put them in a more powerless position as a coping mechanism for his own feelings of being controlled and powerless. Luka’s disliking for his popularity has been hinted on multiple instances throughout the entire series, too. In TOP 3, The fact that he’s all alone despite his huge fan base and being claimed to be “living his endless glory days” rlly shows how his fame completely isolates him and what aliens think of him. I think this proves that everyone here suffers, as usual for VIVINOS. SORRY FOR YAPPING HERE BUT THATS AS MUCH AS I COULD GATHER FROM THE ENTIRE ALIEN STAGE AND ALL ARTWORKS FROM VIVINOS AND QMENG!!! kinda sad we didn't get to explore Luka's backstory too.
yes it was confirmed! i’m no doctor but i believe the name for it is peripheral cyanosis, if you look it up it looks just like luka’s hands. it can happen due to heart issues which is what luka suffers from
@@Sutidamuskun LMAOO OH AND BTW, IF U HAVENT NOTICED.. Luka actually has purple finger tips due to some theories of him having a heart disease or an illness that turns his fingers purple (U can see how his fingers turned purple during ALL-IN when Hyuna's brother died!) (not sure if its actually canon haha) >
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THE WAY I BLINKED AND MY BABY BOY WAS GONE.
BLINK. GONE. BLINK. DEAD.
@@Sutidamuskun “I didn’t cry when you left at first, but now that your dead it hurts” (till to Ivan)
LMAO FRR
@@Sutidamuskun foul😭
Fun fact final is just the middle of the road for alien stage so yes this is not the end yet
When i saw that there's at least more 8 chapters, killed me inside, like, what do you mean Sua died on the first one then???
@@nanny_uhhwait what?? Where did you see that? I need to confirm 😭
@@kathp.2809 Basically, she says that after the final round, there's more 8-10 chapters and then finally ending it
@@nanny_uhh Wish we could get more of Sua 😭
@@kathp.2809 ops, forgot to say it, but it's in Vivino's patreon
No one can deny that Luka is top tier cosplayer😂
Notice how Lukas smile immediately dropped seeing hyuna 😂
When ''ivan'' looks at Till in the scene he doesn't have the shine, the real ivan always had a white spot when he looked at him, Something I realized is that the little music at the end is Till's heart, little by little it gets slower until Till dies and it's over
(edit) -And something I'm interested in discovering is, Why is Till's microphone red the entire song but at the end it turns green?
(Luka has the color green the entire song and there are many scenes focusing on the red color of Till's microphone for it to be 'nothing')
Great observation :> Ig that supports the theory in the vid
The red and green light somewhat represent their mood or something similar to that, Tills light being red for most of the round just represent him stressing out, and his stress relieved when he saw Mizi in the crowd, making the light turn green towards the end!
luka is not a villain, hes a victim like everyone else. luka isjust trying to survive and put on a facade for the aliens.
well i need him to be nicer about it goddammit 😂🤣
I don’t think so😭 have you seen that short vid of hyuna?
Finally someone gets it!
A victim that uses other victims' greatest traumas against them and laughs about it. If it's just about survival to him, he would not take joy in seeing Mizi and Till distressed. I like Luka's character, but not all victims are good people.
@@Sutidamuskunwell i honestly would have done the same, considering he probably doesnt know much about other contestants and doesnt care about them, except for Hyuna (and maybe Hyunwoo ?)as it was shown in the video All-in.
One of the main things I noticed watching for the first time is that Hyuna is still bleeding from the injury she got in round 6 which means that the final round probably happened later in the same day.
This makes a lot more sense when you think about how stressed Till was and how much Ivan actively affected him during the round, because he JUST saw him die a couple hours ago. My poor boy I’m gonna miss him so much 😭
I FLIPPED OUT WATCHING THIS I CANT DO IT HE CANT BE DEAD HE CANT BE HE CANT BE HE CANT BE
This is happening on the same day as round 6 as Hyuna and Mizi were breaking in at the end. So the blood could be from Ivan though i doubt it. Could be part of the costume. But that's also why Till started bleeding from the nose. Ya boy is STRESSED.
Edit: Luka has purple fingers cuz he's chronically ill. He has Asthma, chronic migraines and congenital heart disease apparently.
I started barking as SOON as I saw Luka’s back window 😂🙏
HELP?? (real.)
"Well, there's our supervillain staring into the eyes of the all-beautiful Hyuna, wondering 'What the fuck are you doing here'..."
TRUER WORDS HAVE NEVER BEEN SPOKEN. (Hyuna best girl)
16:10 i believe luka's fingertips are like that because he's pretty unhealthy. he couldn't fight back against mizi in round 5, he only could take her punches. every contestant in alien stage was engineered in a lab. and i've heard luka is like a pug in the way they're cute and loved, but have underlying health problems.
I think the score was more close towards the end because till started singing again (locking in) after seeing mizi which is why Luka looked a bit annoyed and worried when he also saw mizi and how till wasn't being effected by his manipulation
i agree, you can also see Luca getting agitated, which I think was him acknowledging Till was in that very moment outperforming him, and if Till continued like that for long that he'd probably win.
Luka they can never make me like you after this one❤️
SAY IT AGAIN FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE BACK 🗣️🔊🔊🔥🔥‼️🔥
they could never make me hate you luka 😋😋😋
@@magokorooooooooooSame İ love him
Luka is just #better
@@honsai7409 Real hes just Like that
YESSS FINALLY!! IVE BEEN SO HYPE FOR YOUR REACTION
WE HERE!! LETS GOOOOOO 🗣️🔊🔥🔥‼️‼️THANKS FOR WAITING
I’m sorry Luka is SO fine but also manipulative
16:40 WHAT DID I JUST SAY??? 😡😡
Even though im sad about till, the song is such a vibe🔥🔥
yeah this is a dope song even if Till...well...let's not talk about it
Luka gave hyuna that "babe its not what it looks like" ahh stare AHHAHAH
How I love alien stage, from the scene where Mizi leaves Hyuna to find Till is quite similar to the scene where Till leaves Ivan when they were attempting the escape, the fact Mizi and Till both did that for each other is crazy detail. Two, Tills flashbacks all coming back after Luka simply holds Tills neck, reminding Till of the time he was choked by Ivan, Luka triggered his memory just by the touch. Last, Till getting shot on the neck right in-front of Mizis eyes, the same spot where Sua was shot at the end of round 1. My IvanTill heart really can’t take this. But also, Tills flashback from Mizi smiling to Mizis tears falling on his face makes me sick.
(A copypaste of my own comment on the final round video but-)
And just some adds on, its really heartbreaking that Till only remember a glimpse of Ivan (+the scene from round 6 that also happened earlier that day) but got a whole flashback for Mizi once he saw her. Also the the score was actually really close if you pause it at the right timing. Its really sad that Till didn’t get to process Ivans death properly before they would meet each other at the afterlife so soon (alnst actually ruined me).
Answer to Luka’s purple fingers, it’s cause he has a health condition(I can’t remember what it’s called) but it’s the reason why he has a heart monitor, which I believe is the cords that he has on besides the collar. And also to answer if Alien stage is done/ended, a few people(allegedly) who have Vivinos’ patron said it’s only halfway done.
Till: Decent Fair Person
Luka: Prince Charming Villain of Shrek 3
I had to face my trauma to watch your reactions, I’ve been avoiding seeing the thumbnail of Round 7 because of how much it hurt me
I miss Till sm already 😢😢💔💔💔
Till really went blink gone
Ivan's eyes always had the red pupils so the red in the eyes of 'Ivan' when Till saw Luka as Ivan was just because thats just how his eyes are lol. Also Luka's outfit is waaay different from Ivan's. You can see his outflit clearly in the start and it has that big back and chest window and Ivan's was more a classy suit. His outfit doesn't' change.
Yeah but I think he meant they are both white outfits
@@vanessarl8 oh just the color? But Luka also always wears white.
my will to live? in a blink, gone!
19:08 "Ivan cosplay thing" 😭
I am pretty sure luka was born heavily ill and is really malnourished and that why he is the shortest male and only character to have purple fingers as he is slowing dying because of the air
bro tills song "unknown till the end" makes so much sense now.. mizi translates to "unknown" in korean so it just means "mizi till the end" 🤯
There's this one theory i seen that i thought was really cool is that the xylophone sound you hear during the flashback with Till and mizi is actually mizi's tears hitting till's face (Its probably one of my favorites ive heard)
the tip of luka's fingers being blue is a symptom of a heart disease called Raynaud's disease. It causes smaller arteries that supply blood flow to the skin to narrow, and it usually affects the toes or fingers turning them white or blue. In one of vivinos's posts there's a picture of luka doing a "heart rate valuability test" which could be the cause of his fingers maybe
FR NO MATTER HOW GOOD LUKA IS IN LOOKS AND SINGING I HATE HIS CHARACTER SO MUCH.
Saying this as a luka fan: luka is a case of "abused becomes the abuser" and his alien (heperu, we see it in the interview) practically manipulated and groomed him into this 😭😭 also hyuna gave him a reason to sing, it was something like "it feels like this life is mine" since on stage, he isn't exactly controlled. To Heperu, Luka is not a living being with emotions, he’s nothing more than a product to invest in. It shouldn’t be difficult to realize that Luka’s controlling, manipulative personality and his distorted perception of love all stems from the way he’s treated by Heperu. One of the many skills Luka is trained to master is controlling his heart rate via the heart rate variability(?) test, especially tortuous to someone born with congenital heart disease. There was also artwork of this, and it was when all the cast were children. Luka’s entire life and identity is based on ALNST, it’s his everything. He is created specifically for the stage and has no other purpose in life than being a source of entertainment for the aliens. Everything to his genetics to his mannerisms, are all carefully modified and crafted to satisfy the aliens’ preferences. He’s like a doll in a way. he is incredibly passive and obedient, he has no sense of autonomy nor has he ever tried fighting for it, he fully surrenders and submits to the aliens’ control not only as a result of being brainwashed and groomed into doing so at a young age but also in order to survive. The food preferences comic shows us just how greatly the lack of control in one’s own life affects Luka, it causes him to never fight back or stand up for himself whenever he’s wronged by others, he just allows it to happen. He has the biggest appetite in the group and loves sweet foods but couldn’t eat much due to strict managements, yet he never opposes this even if it’ll do more harm than good to his already weak health (we saw that he's very skinny here, in one of his full body shots at the start, we see his ribs). His tendency to suck on things such as his sleeve (and Hyuna too apparently) is most likely developed as a result of his constant hunger and he’s doing that to temporarily forget and cope with it. Luka genuinely enjoys singing, it’s the only thing that brings him the feeling that his life is his, that he has even just the tiniest bit of control over it. for Luka, he’s manipulating others to insert control over and put them in a more powerless position as a coping mechanism for his own feelings of being controlled and powerless. Luka’s disliking for his popularity has been hinted on multiple instances throughout the entire series, too. In TOP 3, The fact that he’s all alone despite his huge fan base and being claimed to be “living his endless glory days” rlly shows how his fame completely isolates him and what aliens think of him. I think this proves that everyone here suffers, as usual for VIVINOS. SORRY FOR YAPPING HERE BUT THATS AS MUCH AS I COULD GATHER FROM THE ENTIRE ALIEN STAGE AND ALL ARTWORKS FROM VIVINOS AND QMENG!!! kinda sad we didn't get to explore Luka's backstory too.
Ivan would be so mad in afterlife
TILL WHY ARE U HEREE??!
Luka and till are my fav characters :((( (1.Luka😍😍 2.Ivan‼️ 3.Till✨)
Luka’s fingers look like that because he has health problems. I believe that was confirmed but idk 😭
yes it was confirmed! i’m no doctor but i believe the name for it is peripheral cyanosis, if you look it up it looks just like luka’s hands. it can happen due to heart issues which is what luka suffers from
OGMKAKSNS AA I WAS WAITING FOR YOU TO POST 🙏🏻🙏🏻
IM SORRY I WAS LATE 😭I forgot that the "Oct 26" release date was for KOREA, NOT US 🥲Anywho, we here now lol
@@Sutidamuskun LMAOO OH AND BTW, IF U HAVENT NOTICED.. Luka actually has purple finger tips due to some theories of him having a heart disease or an illness that turns his fingers purple (U can see how his fingers turned purple during ALL-IN when Hyuna's brother died!) (not sure if its actually canon haha) >
Luka is soooooo messed up bro what is up with that guy man
FINALLYY
WE FINALLY BACK 🔥🔥
Luka they can never make me hate you 💗
I *WILL* change your mind ...believe me 😭😭
Same( ；∀；)
Free luka bruh
Metro Booming make it Boom…
if evil why hot 😔
PS: LMAO I ALSO THINK LUKA MIGHT HAVE TURNED OFF TILLS MIC AT LIKE 2:05 BC IT TURNS RED NAH THATS DIABOLICAL
No it's the same kind of device as their collars that show how they feel.