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Hey please note that the lenova i7 gen 8 with 4090 is onsale for 2839.99 and u can get it down under 2600 nucks before tax. i paid exactly 2767.05 shipped. its limited stock so act fast 10/20 9:30pm eastern
I love this review, I bought Aurora R13 with the RTX 3090. this made me feel alot better about what i've done. I was a console player but since then moved on and haven't desired to move back. I was first using a 1440p alienware 27" monitor. But since I've bumped it up to a Samsung Odyssey Ark 1st gen. For good measure and I'm not the smartest man in the world when it comes to gaming values. But after I watched this review from start to finish. I really liked and enjoyed the non bs review and helpful tactile tips. I'm going to keep following and hopeful that my future gaming and electronic consumerism are still sound strong. Thank you, so very much for being apart of the community. ❤
Just saw this review. Really enjoyed it. As a console gamer my whole life, I've been looking into getting a pc for quite some time. I recently made the plunge and went prebuilt. Purchased an Aurora R15 with an AMD Ryzen 9 7900X cpu and 4090 gpu. Have been really enjoying it. I honestly can't believe how good this thing is. Runs like a dream. Have yet to get a monitor setup yet, but I will soon. Until then, I'll just have to settle for my C1 OLED.
@cheapshot7244 thanks! I know it is one of the best of the best (at least for a few more months). I've been doing a lot of research for a while now, and the insane deal I got for the prebuit was unreal. I couldn't pass it up. Imagine getting a 4090 for the price of a 4070 super. That's about how good of a deal I'm talking.
I just bought this pc based in part on this review. Dell had a smoking deal on this 4090 setup… $2400, plus a 10% off coupon, along with $70 in Dell rewards and $375 cashback from Rakuten. Can’t wait to put this to work on my streams over my current 2080 Super rig. Thanks!
@@tramnguyen0000 This was a deal directly through Dell a few months ago. Amazingly it was for a 4090 Super. It didn't last very long and most people think it was some sort of price mistake.
Hey there. I've been a fan of the Alienware line of PCs for a long time. If you know their limitations going into the purchase, they are great. I personally like picking up the older units (R10 / R12) and setting them with decent CPUs/GPUs. You can buy them for a fraction of the cost of new and there's nothing at all wrong with a 5600x and a 3060 12gb for most use cases including content creation and games. I've been looking at the new R16 and almost pulled the trigger a couple of times on one. I'm excited to see Dell take things in a better direction. I don't mind the proprietary nature of things. They've improved cooling and noise and that's what was missing on the older units. I look forward to getting an R16 at some point. I'm currently running a 12900K / RTX 4070 TI custom rig. I mostly use it for amin and content creation work so it's more than adequate. But I'm still looking forward to the R16 being on my desk at some point in time. Thanks for the great video. Cheers Rick
Alienware is the best imo. Not just talking about the PC but the WARRANTY is amazing. They'll literally drive to your house and fix your computer no matter where you live in the US. When my SSD went out, they sent me two SSDs for whatever reason. Replaced my screen for free when my dog bumped into it and a few other minor things that got fixed. Like the RGB lights going out on the front of the laptop. Plus I like aliens.
@DavidWilliams-kv4vj Glad you're finding my videos informative and helpful David! They definitely take a long time with all the testing involved so it makes me happy getting comments like this!
I'm only halfway through this video and I am insanely impressed with how in-depth you are in these videos as well as educational for the rest of us. I used to know about computers about 15 years ago or so and I know absolutely nothing anymore.
I am still running an Aurora R9, and my top priority is low noise. I don’t game at all, but I’m a software engineer and also a podcaster, so video and audio work is heavy as well as code compilation, builds, and automated tests. GPU strain is moderate, but I/O speeds are my current limiting factor. I’m interested in this R16 because of its strength in noise. My office is my recording studio and a loud PC has no place there. I would never be able to build my own PC and get it quieter than the R16, so that’s my reason to go prebuilt.
@supernova751 thank you! Sorry it took so long. I've never tested so many versions of one PC before but I knew with a new design that this video would get a lot of attention so I had to put extra into it
Really like the format of your video, thanks. Even veteran buyers can suffer choice paralysis, so it's wonderful to see you frame each product against the market and embellish with potential alternatives and upgrades and such. Please keep up the great work!
I agree with your final thoughts. The best thing about these would be price to performance. Great to pick one up when sales come around. Best for people that dont plan on upgrading themselves.
I had the same complaint about the RGB per-game lighting but ***THIS HAS BEEN UPDATED*** as a note to any viewers. the setting is in the general settings where you can change this.
Finally someone who has something good to say about this setup. I'm a gamer who has no interest in building a computer and who doesn't care if the motherboard has usb ports attached to it, or I can't buy another power supply or upgrade my motherboard. Dell has the best warranty of any of them and provides the best choice of options. When Corsair or any of the other pre-built computer companies drive 300 km. to my house to replace a motherboard under warranty like Dell did, I'll take a look at them. Till then.....I'm with Alienware.
I have the r16 1000w with the i9 14k and 4090 with 64gb. It gets here in a few days and I’m listing it for sale $1,000 under dells price as soon as it gets here. Lmk if you’re interested!!
Dell is too stubborn to make a good case. Even back when I was in the IT world, HP servers and workstations were levels above Dell in design, quality and a look, especially on the case. HP back in 2003, 20 years ago used a Coolermaster Case for their gaming PC, it was called the X09 and I built my first gaming PC copying what they did. Maybe some day Dell will spend the money and make a decent gaming PC with a case from Corsair or Coolermaster?
@@moop111 Alienware cases has always looked good, that is their thing. But the r16, r15, plus al the older models, and all dell workstation pc's use the same case. They just change out the plastics/outer shell of the case. On the inside it has been the same for 10-15 years. And that limits them alot. in fan suport, how many and witch size fans you can fit, cable management, storage suport. Same with AIO suport, max one 240 ( when my Phanteks p600s case fits one 420 in front plus one 360 on top). Also with the motherbords, witch all have to be proprietary. So yes, I love how it looks, and have always liked the way alienware system have looked, BUT, that does not change the fact that it is still an 15 year old case that has been given a new plastic shell and made to look fresh. But is still horibly outdated. PS I have dyslexia so sorry for all the spelling mistakes.
For the RAM upgrade, whether the xmp can be selected/picked depends on the xmp voltage. The motherboard only allows 1.1v for ram. That is why in the video indicates that the ddr5 6000 can only run under base profile becauv. even though the memory has a 5600mt/s profile, the base profile is the only profile that run under 1.1v. So, if you want to upgrade you ram, try to find the memories run under 1.1v will be good to go. Typically, most of the server RAMs will be the case, run 5600mt/s under 1.1v, for the best stability. For myself, I upgraded with Crucial 64g 5600mt/s with heatsink, it runs 5600mt/s at 1.1v, with CL46 which is not impressive at all. The aiad64 memory test show similar latency, and a little bit faster in read/write/copy(all over 80g/s and close to the high 80g), which is good. If you are looking for a better performance memory solution, maybe the option is the ones can modify the profile, and define your own with 1.1v. I saw corsair memory can support that, maybe update the profile from ANOTHER fully UNLOCKED machine, then try to install to the R16. Not tried, but might work.
1 intake and 3 exhaust fans is crazy. I had to swap my RAD fans to intake for my own peace of mind. It keeps my temps relatively low and no negative air pressure so it works for me.
Just pulled the trigger on this 4090 model since they have it on sale for $3k. Feels like a great deal. Was between the LG C4 and the 32" Alienware OLED screen. Both very close in price. Went with the C4 and hoping I enjoy more as my gaming has moved more towards single player immersion.
I just got this today… what are your normal running temps and a temp under load… I feel like it runs a little hot… 90c on max setting on apex… seems sus
Justin, thanks so much for the great review and video. What processor would you pick for the 4080? As tested you had the i7-13700F but with more options now which would you choose?
@is1human if cost is a factor then you'll see in the Price/Performance section that the i7 4080 version of this PC had the best value. But if it were me, I would pay more for the performance boost the i9 offers. Especially since for me creator work needs a really powerful CPU. But the gains will be pretty noticeable in gaming as well
@@JustinTechTips - Cool- do you mean the $150 upgrade to the i9-13 or the $300 upgrade to the i9-14 (with the 4080)? Guessing the latter. Of course, right now I'm on a 6 year old XPS with a 1070 so any of these would probably be pretty amazing!
Okay, just ordered the r16 with i9-13900F and a 4080 which was $2,850 with some extra storage. Got the AW3423DWF OLED monitor too. Should be a nice upgrade!
Hey Justin, great videos :) - I'm looking to purchase an Aurora R16 (will use your link) - my question is should I be expecting the price to go down at all for holiday sales? They have a 30 day price match guarantee for these situations, but I'm worried the sale will happen closer to Black Friday / Christmas. Any idea what to expect?
Alienware has officially exited their strange yet bold designs. I prefer the R15 and prior models, and before that I preferred the old/ original Area 51s that were sort of 1940s looking and then the one after that, in 2010, the Area 51 ALX with the i7 980 Core Extreme CPUs. They had the slanted/ vented tops that looked really neat. Nowadays they look uninteresting and basic...like I can build one of these using any damn MATX case at NewEgg. They've become so traditional looking. I'm happy with my R15/ 4080 and plan to keep the case going as long as I can lol. I'll even eventually see if it can fit an R17 or 18 mobo in it, when comes time to upgrade. Alienware does weird best and I'm going to miss that. Even the 2015 Area 51 was neat and different. Whichever one that was that was octagonal shaped.
Thank you! No you can also mount it to the actual case above the other fan. There’s holes for the screws, you just need to pop off that front panel to access the other side
I'm am intrigued at the new case, hoping they made some fixes from the old R13/R15 cases that just sucked for cooling. I bought the R15 and you seemed to praise that machine. Gamer's Nexus took theirs apart and really did a great job showing all the problems with Alienware (still). I wish I had the time to build my own but it's not my thing (happily left IT work after 25 years!) It's disappointing how much they lock down the CPU performance and RAM speed.
Just wanna say you do a good job. a real good job. on sorting this all out. I appreciate the information very much. thinking about buying a gaming PC right now. in between DELL AND HP
love the back ground wish i could afford any pc but i cant .been disabled is a struggle financially love to watch tech and your videos are clean .not asking for anything i am just a guy that loves your work and efort that you put into the videos
Most indepth review ive seen in a while and i appreciate you discussing upgradeability. A lot of users upgrade their pcs and i hate watching a review never knowing if i can upgrade something in it
Phenomenal review. I purchased the R16 on a whim from a DELL advertisement last night. Glancing at the specs for CPU, GPU, M.2 capacity, and RAM specs.....I scratched my head when I saw the DELL online price! Like....is this a http site or https?! LOL. I ordered. Literally watched to see the USB Gen Specs for the rear, but was blown away by your presentation and in depth Desktop review. Again, phenomenal, keep it up nerd brother!
just wanted to drop a note and say that you really nailed it when it comes to people like myself who just go the pre built route. Back in the day, when my eyes worked 100% and I had the time and energy, taking apart, building, upgrading my computers(even back in the old Commodore Amiga days) was enjoyable. Now, I'm paying for the convivence and for someone else to figure out and build a modern PC for me. Hence, having watched all your pre built review vids to date(great stuff) as i am currently in the market to upgrade my Alienware R9, to see if I should just stick with Alienware as they have never failed me in the past, or take the plunge and give someone else a shot!
Totally agree. I liked that section of the video. I don't get why people make so much of this. The same logic would apply to many things in life- house cleaning, gardening, bringing lunch to work instead of eating out, making coffee at home. We all make these choices for ourselves. For me building or upgrading would be a chore not a joy. Others enjoys it. Great.
Exact specs are going to depend on what your doing but in general AMD is kicking Intel in everything: better performance per watt (more zoom for less power), overall performance (the E cores are only about 40% of a P core. Stack enough and they have some heavy duty power, but suddenly '24 cores' looks a bit less impressive when the 8 P cores beat the 16 E cores. And AMD is all 'P core'. And if your mostly gaming, the X3D is silly good. No one benchmarks with the OG 5800X3D because it sits around the middle of the pack. So about on par with chips 2 generations newer and on a 5+ year old socket. Its sort of too good. And the new ones are even better. With an exception or 2, at worst they are tied with Intel and the rest of the AMD CPUs. They can be quite a bit better. As for where to get one? X3D builds are a bit rare but look at not Alienware. Too many 'good reviews' that are "of the review system provided to us by Dell". Aka If we don't like your review, you don't get another review sample. When you do find a legitimate "we paid $$$ for this", suddenly the tune changes: AW is lucky to tie, it often falls well short of 'off the shelf' hardware. Then pair with 'knows what they are doing' and $1800 Alienware gets clobbered by $1800 'Custom' build. Strictly "it works as it should out of the box, no fiddling at all required" is quite rare. Builders are a little too loose and sloppy with builds (a 'test' may be to run a benchmark: CPU @ 100C and 4k points short "what seems to be the problem?" Umm your thermal throttling the heck out of the system? Check the cooler/paste?) But if your willing to do a '5 minute poke around': check XMP, shift a fan, etc. then a good system in a box isn't too hard to find. I think Skytek got good marks, ABS (except they are Newegg house brand, blachk). Gamers Nexus has a good series with 'works to spec out of the box' as the pass/fail criteria. Worth at least skimming that playlist. Nothing wrong with going prebuilt, just not Alienware.
you should really consider benchmarking the Micro Center pre-built computers to see how they stack up with everyone else too. I always thought they had good cost to performance as well as very good warranties for systems backed with very good in store support for upgrades and guidance.
I picked almost the same spec on micro center it actually cost more. I’m talking about $400-500 more so I think it’s a bargain to purchase from Alienware. Besides they have a Black Friday deal now.
I ordered a R16 i9 14900F 4090 32 GB mem on 6 May I received it yesterday (13 May) with tax 2435.15 PLUS 15% off with Rakuten ($342) that brings total down to just under $2100. Iknow it's not the K chip but for the price I don't care. Love your channel and just subscribed.
I just purchased a R16 with the i9 14900KF, 4090, 64GB, and 4TB M.2 for $3699 :) Gets delivered next week. Will be a nice upgrade from my self built i9 9900K and EVGA 2080 Ti
I just purchased an Alienware Aurora R16 with an RTX 4080 . I ordered it on 10.3.24 but it is still not shipped. I am not into upgrading, maybe 10 years ago but not now. I had a Digital Storm Velox but it died on me. I found that the CPU cooler's pump assemble came loose from the CPU. It also weighed 65+ pounds and was very hard to work on. I enjoy your channel and I hope my New PC comes soon, supposed to be by 10.16.24??
Really loved this review and got me really sticking with the Aurora R16. I'm not a builder and wont be doing interior messing around and staying with it few years (longer the better) what should my option on customizing the order build so I don't have to worry about a Pc for a good time? is processor and graphics card what I really need to look at? of course I'm going to use the 1000W Platinum Rated PSU, 240mm Liquid-Cooled CPU for the power supply. Just curious if I should go 4080 or 4090 for graphics and difference in the i9s? I'm probably going with the i9 14900KF. This would be a major upgrade from my Inspiron 3650. I already know ima spend a good buck on it just want to make sure I have the right parts. Any tip would help
@abandonedfilms4656 thank you for the kind words and sorry for the late reply! Yes the 4090 is SIGNIFICANTLY better than the 4080. If you check out my latest i7500 Review ruclips.net/video/rgy_3nUGPhE/видео.html in the Performance section you can see just how much higher of an average fps all the 4090 PCs had. i9 and 4090 will last you a LONG time
I appreciate the review.. I've been seriously contemplating on purchasing this exact model.. My only question and it's probably a silly one as Im not PC savvy..Are these VR ready?.. Thanks in advance.. Cheers!
Absolutely beautiful pc. It handles any game i run at 150+ fps, **ON ULTRA GRAPHICS** It's really easy to clean, and despite what many people say, if you maintain it, it really isn't loud at all. Obviously dust intake, etc would make it louder In general it's worth the money (I added a 2080 TI and intel i9, worth the investment)
i had my Alienware Aurora R7 for years and its been good to me but its time to get a new PC and Alienware Aurora R16 is in my budget, only upgrades im getting are the 14900KF and 2tb m.2
@acidriott Sorry about that! These couple of months leading up to Black Friday are pretty crazy for tech reviewers. Glad you enjoyed the review! Which configuration do you think you'll be getting?
@@JustinTechTips hey no problem at all bro! I am surprised you guarentee a response! After learning about PC's and switching from console to pc I think I'll need to do a little more research! I want to stream forza motorsport/horizon and assetto corsa with mods to twitch and I have a $2500-$2700 usd budget.
Great review. I've watched a bunch of these as I'm considering upgrading my PC. I currently have an Alienware Aurora R8 with an i7-9700k and an RTX 2070. Could I buy an RTX 4070 or 4080, or should I just go with a completely new rig? There is a good deal on the R16 with a 4080, which is what I'm considering if I don't just upgrade my graphics card.
@anthonylifrieri7 yeah I would definitely go with a new rig from an R8. A 4080 will not get the full benefits of the latest PCIe 5.0 technology since the R8 has PCIe gen 3. Also a 4080 would not pair well with a 9700k
@@anthonylifrieri7you absolutely could. I also have an R8 with the i7- 9700k and upgraded from a 2070 to a 4070 and it runs flawlessly. It runs so much cooler and efficient. The main reason you cannot upgrade to a 4080 is because it will not fit in the case. That is what I was originally gonna upgrade to but found out it wouldn’t fit.
@@anthonylifrieri7 Real world difference between gen3 and gen4 for a GPU: 2, maybe 3%. To put that in terms of FPS, your going from 120 to maybe 123. It will show up on benchmarks, its probably going to be hanging around in the manger of error. And given the 40 series are Gen4 cards, putting them in a gen5 slot will do nothing. There is a slight concern due to Dell only wiring the slots in the pre R13 with x8, so you will be loosing a little. PCIe bandwidth doubles if you double the lanes or go up a generation. So Gen3x16=Gen4x8. So a Gen4x16 GPU running at Gen3x8 is taking a double hit. Not much, Probably ~5%, not 10%. Its also going to matter what your doing. High resolution (1440, better 4k) with maxed out setting (better full raytracing) and even a 4090 is going to chug. Even if you pair it with a MUCH older CPU. Also on the topic of selling people new systems on 'the new bigger number', aka PCIe 4/5/whatever. In terms of storage gen 4 drives are not that much better than gen3 drives. Yes the bandwidth doubled, but the real limiting factor is the SSD controller and how it handles random IO. That really hasn't gotten better. Benchmarks for that is rare, but a well built high end system shows ~1.3s (gen4) vs ~1.7s (gen3) load times with direct storage. Its easy to see in a benchmark if you zoom in a bunch with the number and the bars right next to each other. Real world? Good SSD go ZOom! So no real issues with the core hardware, issues from Alienware: case size (they are small inside) and the PSU (4080 isn't as bad as the 3090, but they still chug power) 850W? Also cooling. Power in = heat out, and those cases and airflow...
Checking this out, since its time to upgrade my 11th Gen i9 64GB XPS PC, and I was checking this one and a Cyberpower one. Have to have the 64GB, yup I am glad it doesnt have the lame look. Checking this out, I did spec it out, always hate the price upgrades. We shall see watching the vid :) Even though the i9 doesnt kick as much vs i7 I dunno, with laptops it was pointless, but who knows.
Outstanding Show ! Hooked me I just the same unit. AIO upgrade worth the cost ? XMP memory is needed to enable ? I know you cant with this machine. Kind of a dumb question.
What is your input on getting a single drive 4tb rather than 2tb OR dual 2tb m.2 PCIe? Would this be better for performance over all having separate files 1 drive for gaming 1 for miscellaneous? or all files in 1 drive? (Or add in the sata as 2nd storage be more useful?) Btw, appreciate your detailed video, keep up the good work.
I just bought my Aurora R16! 14th i9 with 4090 and 32gb of ram. I was kinda confused why it has a higher 5600mhz than the 64gb with 5200mhz, so I went with the 32gb. Hopefully it outperforms my 4090 m16 r1.
Hi ! Great video ! I have a PS5 so do you recommend getting it for games like Fortnite, steam games and Microsoft Flight Simulator ? (I’m getting max specs)
I really am puzzled at not maintaining an interior lighting. Btw at 10:10, if you study the charts I think it’s worth noting CyberPower, AW, etc. traded CPU temps at a more-than-adequate 75c for substantially lower GPU thermals which is considerably better for gaming than the other extreme. At 10:47 it’s no surprise the AW sits dead middle for 4K which is why it has excellent 4K performance. It’s by design to be a 4K targeted system.
when you say usually there are some ssd and hard drive spaces, does that mean there are none on this pc? This means a lot to me as a video editor and i was contemplating on buying this pc. Subbed. Thanks
@chazdillon2909 yeah on the back of most computer cases there are usually brackets and space for mor hard drives. Unfortunately not on this one. This PC probably has one of the least expandable storage options
I have a question. You get the 6000MT/s DDR5 32 GB Memory for upgrade but the Owner's Manual shows only support Up to 5600 MT/s. Do you get any issue with 6000MT/s? How about 6400MT/s? I also tried to ask their support team, they said only 5600MT/s too.
As someone who has other alienware peripherals (headset & mouse) and has had alienware laptops in the past, I haven't used a desktop in over a decade, would you recommend this? I had to return 2 Alienware M18 R1's about a month ago (both had issues with hardware) would I be better off getting this desktop from best buy? (I have to use best buy due to having store credit) It's gonna be my first desktop in well over a decade, would the R16 be a good fit? Is the drives not having heatsinks on them a big issue for prolonged life of the PC/drive? Not looking to do any upgrades, just buy a PC thatll last me a few years without issue. Always liked the looks of Alienware.
The best answer to all of these would be to build your own, Alienware is notorious for heating issues and hardware issues. If you build your own it will last you years and years.
@@Ritzcrackers99 Yeah, I know that's what everyone says, "Build your own" I actually don't have a whole lot of space to work with and after crunching some numbers, getting new furniture right now so I can have a desktop is out of the realm of possibility.
I’m looking into buying the Alienware r16 it’s mainly because I can’t pay outta pocket so I need monthly payments which Dell offers. I would like to know if Alienware is actually good Ik it has some overheating issues as well as the proprietary parts and such. Would you recommend the r16 Aurora for a person trying to play good games.
Did you use the FURY BEAST RGB 64GB DDR5-5600 Dual Channel RAM Kit, 2x 32GB, C40, Black (Part #KF556C40BBAK2-64)? Will it work for the R16 Intel 14th gen i9 @ 5600mhz out of the box? The manual doesn't say it supports 64GB 5600mhz ram setup. This video didn't mention the size and speed of the Fury Beast kit that was used either. Is XMP profile now enabled in the latest bios?
Sadly didn’t get an answer from this channel. I had hopes considering this review is so detailed. But just like other RUclips channels, subscribing just increases the user base, you wouldn’t get any answers or reply. “You only get a personal reply only when you subscribe”. But why would I subscribe if I know now you’re not really being genuinely helpful? Definitely NOT subscribing.
The most clever thing that dell has done on r15 and 16 is they move the CPU radiator to the top instead of in the rear. Therefore CPU won't eat up all the hot exhaust from GPU. It cost how many years to make them realize that?
tbh idk why people so much hate Dell and alienware, I have the alienware m17 laptop i7 8th and still run like a champ, just order my r16 i7 13th, rtx 4070 ti with discount code bf tax 1660$ because cs2 lol
Yeeah ive had several of their laptops but no desktops. Their laptops have always been tanks and the most powerful compared to the competition. But their desktops seem cheaply made with cheap proprietary internals, which i have a problem with. I got their AW Graphics amplifier and they dont support it anymore. So theyre not perfect, but i still like their laptops.
Hey Justin! I know I’m pretty late but if it was possible for you to answer this comment. Is there a way you could make a video on how to add rgb fans to aurora r16? Thanks!
Hi, I am having trouble deciding between this Alienware Aurora R16 dekstop and the HP Omen 40 L. Could you possibly share which you would buy? Its for my son who is big into gaming. Id really appreciate the help. 😊 thanks
Even though i can't afford one as a third world country teen, i still came here to admire how beautiful this PC is. Just seeing it gave me a rush of excitement and joy-it's incredible to look at!...those specs are mind-blowing...thanks for the review :)
hi thinking of buying the R16 with some parts changed im moving from xbox to pc. the specs are - Aurora R16 Processor 13th Gen Intel® Core™ i9-13900F (68MB, 24 cores, 32 threads, up to 5.60 GHz P-Core Thermal Velocity) Operating System Windows 11 Home, English, Dutch, French, German, Italian Graphics NVIDIA® GeForce RTX™ 4070 SUPER 12GB GDDR6X Memory 32 GB: 2 x 16 GB, DDR5, 5600 MT/s Storage 2 TB (2 x 1 TB), M.2, PCIe, SSD Chassis Options 1000W Platinum Rated PSU, 240mm Liquid-Cooled CPU & Clear Side Panel Wireless Intel® Killer™ Wi-Fi 6E AX1675, 2x2, 802.11ax, MU-MIMO, Bluetooth® wireless card are there any major limiting things i should change before i buy or will this be a well rounded pc? note i copied and pasted this from the spec area of dells website.
Question Just!n. Ready for a new pc, my current one I built (Air Cooled, NVIDIA GTX 1080 Ti, i7) back in 2017. It was only the 2nd pc I've ever built, the other I had for about 7yrs. also. I know just enough about building a computer to be danger to my wallet. lol Anyway I've been looking around at umpteen million sites at pre-builds, the AURORA R16 caught my attention. So "Alienware Aurora R16 w/ 8 TB (2 x 4 TB), M.2, PCIe, SSD & 1000W Platinum Rated PSU". Do you think this is a solid choice? I know it's not cheap ($4400 before txs.) but as you've read, I keep my pc's for a while. If not what would you recommend? Mainly use for games and movies. Thanks in advance!
@Out_Break_Monkey I think it's absolute robery that Dell is trying to charge you $700 extra to bump up to a dual drive 8TB (2 x 4TB). It has to be intentionally misleading the way they did that. That dual drive option is only adding one more 4TB drive from the standard 4TB they start you at. You're better off getting this one bit.ly/Alienware-Aurora-R16-14thGen and then buying this better 4TB SSD drive bestbuy.7tiv.net/k0x2gx from Best Buy for half that. Installing SSDs are super easy and it will take you no time at all. To save that $350 extra that Dell is trying to mark it up for.
Hello tech guy. I am looking to purchase the nee Dell R16. Does it worth my money 💰 I hate the other "spaceship design the dell put out. I need something real BLAST FAST and can destroy anything I throw to it. Does the DELL R16 is the right PC?
I would like your honest opinion on my questions will the high end alien 👽 desktop gaming pc will be able to match this custom gaming pc in terms of 4k graphics resolution, performance and temperature wise though ?? * Will I notice the difference between the quality of graphics compared to ps5 ? Will it be better ? I’m referring to the alien high end desktop not the custom gaming pc… my other question is will the alien high end pc be better in quality of graphics compare to the ps5 ? Will I be able to run mods on the alien desktop pc ? What about super ray tracing ? Will the alien high end pc be able to deliver ? Lian Li evo rgb pro WHITE case * Motherboard: * ASUS ROG CROSSHAIR X670E HERO * Processor: * AMD RYZEN 9 7950X3D 16C/32T 5.7GHZ * Memory: * PERFORMANCE DDR5 5600Mhz 8GB [32GB (8x4)] * SSD (M.2 NVMe): * (5x) MSI SPATIUM M480 PRO PCIe 4.0 NVMe M.2 [4 TB] * SSD (SATA): * SSD 2.5" [4 TB] * CPU Cooling: * ASUS ROG RYUJIN III 360 ARGB WHITE * Power Supply: * 80PLUS TITANIUM 1600W ATX 3.0 POWER SUPPLY * Graphics Card(s): * ROG Strix GeForce RTX® 4090 OC WHITE Edition 24GB GDDR6X * Capture Card: * Elgato PCIE 4K60 Pro * Sleeving: * Lian li Strimer V2 RGB Sleeving Kit * Operating System: * Windows 11 [Pro] *
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Hey please note that the lenova i7 gen 8 with 4090 is onsale for 2839.99 and u can get it down under 2600 nucks before tax. i paid exactly 2767.05 shipped. its limited stock so act fast 10/20 9:30pm eastern
so would this be a good first pc for me?
I love this review, I bought Aurora R13 with the RTX 3090. this made me feel alot better about what i've done. I was a console player but since then moved on and haven't desired to move back. I was first using a 1440p alienware 27" monitor. But since I've bumped it up to a Samsung Odyssey Ark 1st gen. For good measure and I'm not the smartest man in the world when it comes to gaming values. But after I watched this review from start to finish. I really liked and enjoyed the non bs review and helpful tactile tips. I'm going to keep following and hopeful that my future gaming and electronic consumerism are still sound strong. Thank you, so very much for being apart of the community. ❤
the R13 is especially horrible especially with high-end parts. so.
Just saw this review. Really enjoyed it. As a console gamer my whole life, I've been looking into getting a pc for quite some time. I recently made the plunge and went prebuilt. Purchased an Aurora R15 with an AMD Ryzen 9 7900X cpu and 4090 gpu. Have been really enjoying it. I honestly can't believe how good this thing is. Runs like a dream. Have yet to get a monitor setup yet, but I will soon. Until then, I'll just have to settle for my C1 OLED.
That's a pretty sick PC for your first one !
@cheapshot7244 thanks! I know it is one of the best of the best (at least for a few more months). I've been doing a lot of research for a while now, and the insane deal I got for the prebuit was unreal. I couldn't pass it up. Imagine getting a 4090 for the price of a 4070 super. That's about how good of a deal I'm talking.
@@Afroman_Gamingwhere abouts did you buy it?
@@toemuncher3333 I ended up getting it directly from Dells website.
@@toemuncher3333 I had purchased it directly from the Dell website.
I just bought this pc based in part on this review. Dell had a smoking deal on this 4090 setup… $2400, plus a 10% off coupon, along with $70 in Dell rewards and $375 cashback from Rakuten. Can’t wait to put this to work on my streams over my current 2080 Super rig. Thanks!
Wow! That’s a stupid good deal. The best I’ve seen is $2999.
Omg what sale occasion was it
@@tramnguyen0000 This was a deal directly through Dell a few months ago. Amazingly it was for a 4090 Super. It didn't last very long and most people think it was some sort of price mistake.
I don't upgrade cpu and gpu, i just toss the old pc after a few years and buy a new one.
Curious what is a few years to you? 😅
So practically you're upgrading?
Same. Except when a new sports car comes out, I don't save enough money for it 😂
I’ll have one 😅
Can I get the tossed pc
Hey there. I've been a fan of the Alienware line of PCs for a long time. If you know their limitations going into the purchase, they are great. I personally like picking up the older units (R10 / R12) and setting them with decent CPUs/GPUs. You can buy them for a fraction of the cost of new and there's nothing at all wrong with a 5600x and a 3060 12gb for most use cases including content creation and games. I've been looking at the new R16 and almost pulled the trigger a couple of times on one. I'm excited to see Dell take things in a better direction. I don't mind the proprietary nature of things. They've improved cooling and noise and that's what was missing on the older units. I look forward to getting an R16 at some point. I'm currently running a 12900K / RTX 4070 TI custom rig. I mostly use it for amin and content creation work so it's more than adequate. But I'm still looking forward to the R16 being on my desk at some point in time.
Thanks for the great video.
Cheers
Rick
Alienware is the best imo. Not just talking about the PC but the WARRANTY is amazing. They'll literally drive to your house and fix your computer no matter where you live in the US. When my SSD went out, they sent me two SSDs for whatever reason. Replaced my screen for free when my dog bumped into it and a few other minor things that got fixed. Like the RGB lights going out on the front of the laptop. Plus I like aliens.
seriously?
@@CinderDoreiku yes their warranty is that good if you buy it. I pay $35 a month for my laptop that costs over $3500
Just bought this thanks to your in depth and honest review. First PC I've purchased and mostly thx to this vid. Much appreciated
@DavidWilliams-kv4vj Glad you're finding my videos informative and helpful David! They definitely take a long time with all the testing involved so it makes me happy getting comments like this!
I'm only halfway through this video and I am insanely impressed with how in-depth you are in these videos as well as educational for the rest of us. I used to know about computers about 15 years ago or so and I know absolutely nothing anymore.
I am still running an Aurora R9, and my top priority is low noise. I don’t game at all, but I’m a software engineer and also a podcaster, so video and audio work is heavy as well as code compilation, builds, and automated tests. GPU strain is moderate, but I/O speeds are my current limiting factor. I’m interested in this R16 because of its strength in noise. My office is my recording studio and a loud PC has no place there. I would never be able to build my own PC and get it quieter than the R16, so that’s my reason to go prebuilt.
Finally! Been waiting for this one, keep up the good work!
@supernova751 thank you! Sorry it took so long. I've never tested so many versions of one PC before but I knew with a new design that this video would get a lot of attention so I had to put extra into it
Bad pcs bro
Great review, thank you!
Please please do a tutorial on how you swapped the Alienware cooling fans for the Corsair cooling system.
Really like the format of your video, thanks. Even veteran buyers can suffer choice paralysis, so it's wonderful to see you frame each product against the market and embellish with potential alternatives and upgrades and such. Please keep up the great work!
Definitely plan to look into this thank you for the review bro
I agree with your final thoughts. The best thing about these would be price to performance. Great to pick one up when sales come around. Best for people that dont plan on upgrading themselves.
I had the same complaint about the RGB per-game lighting but ***THIS HAS BEEN UPDATED*** as a note to any viewers. the setting is in the general settings where you can change this.
Finally someone who has something good to say about this setup. I'm a gamer who has no interest in building a computer and who doesn't care if the motherboard has usb ports attached to it, or I can't buy another power supply or upgrade my motherboard. Dell has the best warranty of any of them and provides the best choice of options. When Corsair or any of the other pre-built computer companies drive 300 km. to my house to replace a motherboard under warranty like Dell did, I'll take a look at them. Till then.....I'm with Alienware.
I have the r16 1000w with the i9 14k and 4090 with 64gb. It gets here in a few days and I’m listing it for sale $1,000 under dells price as soon as it gets here. Lmk if you’re interested!!
Dell is too stubborn to make a good case. Even back when I was in the IT world, HP servers and workstations were levels above Dell in design, quality and a look, especially on the case. HP back in 2003, 20 years ago used a Coolermaster Case for their gaming PC, it was called the X09 and I built my first gaming PC copying what they did. Maybe some day Dell will spend the money and make a decent gaming PC with a case from Corsair or Coolermaster?
case looks pretty nice bro what you on?
@@moop111 Its Trash compared to the Omen 45L and Corsair Cases Bro, but if you like Dell Slop buy it!
@@moop111 Alienware cases has always looked good, that is their thing. But the r16, r15, plus al the older models, and all dell workstation pc's use the same case. They just change out the plastics/outer shell of the case. On the inside it has been the same for 10-15 years.
And that limits them alot. in fan suport, how many and witch size fans you can fit, cable management, storage suport. Same with AIO suport, max one 240 ( when my Phanteks p600s case fits one 420 in front plus one 360 on top). Also with the motherbords, witch all have to be proprietary.
So yes, I love how it looks, and have always liked the way alienware system have looked, BUT, that does not change the fact that it is still an 15 year old case that has been given a new plastic shell and made to look fresh. But is still horibly outdated.
PS I have dyslexia so sorry for all the spelling mistakes.
For the RAM upgrade, whether the xmp can be selected/picked depends on the xmp voltage. The motherboard only allows 1.1v for ram.
That is why in the video indicates that the ddr5 6000 can only run under base profile becauv. even though the memory has a 5600mt/s profile, the base profile is the only profile that run under 1.1v.
So, if you want to upgrade you ram, try to find the memories run under 1.1v will be good to go. Typically, most of the server RAMs will be the case, run 5600mt/s under 1.1v, for the best stability.
For myself, I upgraded with Crucial 64g 5600mt/s with heatsink, it runs 5600mt/s at 1.1v, with CL46 which is not impressive at all. The aiad64 memory test show similar latency, and a little bit faster in read/write/copy(all over 80g/s and close to the high 80g), which is good.
If you are looking for a better performance memory solution, maybe the option is the ones can modify the profile, and define your own with 1.1v. I saw corsair memory can support that, maybe update the profile from ANOTHER fully UNLOCKED machine, then try to install to the R16. Not tried, but might work.
1 intake and 3 exhaust fans is crazy. I had to swap my RAD fans to intake for my own peace of mind. It keeps my temps relatively low and no negative air pressure so it works for me.
its to pull hot air out as fast as possible
Just pulled the trigger on this 4090 model since they have it on sale for $3k. Feels like a great deal. Was between the LG C4 and the 32" Alienware OLED screen. Both very close in price. Went with the C4 and hoping I enjoy more as my gaming has moved more towards single player immersion.
I just got this today… what are your normal running temps and a temp under load… I feel like it runs a little hot… 90c on max setting on apex… seems sus
@@censorshift11 It can occasionally spike into the 90s but it runs around mid 70's playing Cyberpunk at full tilt.
Justin, thanks so much for the great review and video. What processor would you pick for the 4080? As tested you had the i7-13700F but with more options now which would you choose?
@is1human if cost is a factor then you'll see in the Price/Performance section that the i7 4080 version of this PC had the best value. But if it were me, I would pay more for the performance boost the i9 offers. Especially since for me creator work needs a really powerful CPU. But the gains will be pretty noticeable in gaming as well
@@JustinTechTips - Cool- do you mean the $150 upgrade to the i9-13 or the $300 upgrade to the i9-14 (with the 4080)? Guessing the latter. Of course, right now I'm on a 6 year old XPS with a 1070 so any of these would probably be pretty amazing!
Okay, just ordered the r16 with i9-13900F and a 4080 which was $2,850 with some extra storage. Got the AW3423DWF OLED monitor too. Should be a nice upgrade!
@@is1humanhow is it turning out for you so far ? I’m thinking about getting the 4090 version with the i9
@is1human have you had any issues with the GPU?
Great video man, really appreciate creators like you. Hats off
Subscribed!, great video. Is your background a green screen or hexagon wall panels?
Hey Justin, great videos :) - I'm looking to purchase an Aurora R16 (will use your link) - my question is should I be expecting the price to go down at all for holiday sales? They have a 30 day price match guarantee for these situations, but I'm worried the sale will happen closer to Black Friday / Christmas. Any idea what to expect?
Alienware has officially exited their strange yet bold designs. I prefer the R15 and prior models, and before that I preferred the old/ original Area 51s that were sort of 1940s looking and then the one after that, in 2010, the Area 51 ALX with the i7 980 Core Extreme CPUs. They had the slanted/ vented tops that looked really neat. Nowadays they look uninteresting and basic...like I can build one of these using any damn MATX case at NewEgg. They've become so traditional looking. I'm happy with my R15/ 4080 and plan to keep the case going as long as I can lol. I'll even eventually see if it can fit an R17 or 18 mobo in it, when comes time to upgrade. Alienware does weird best and I'm going to miss that. Even the 2015 Area 51 was neat and different. Whichever one that was that was octagonal shaped.
Great review. How did you install the additional intake fan though, don't you need a specific alienware/Dell fan holder for that?
Thank you! No you can also mount it to the actual case above the other fan. There’s holes for the screws, you just need to pop off that front panel to access the other side
@@JustinTechTips Thanks! Wasn't sure due to all the proprietary parts.
I just bought one!
good review, very informative, thank you for the best quality reviews justin
I'm am intrigued at the new case, hoping they made some fixes from the old R13/R15 cases that just sucked for cooling. I bought the R15 and you seemed to praise that machine. Gamer's Nexus took theirs apart and really did a great job showing all the problems with Alienware (still). I wish I had the time to build my own but it's not my thing (happily left IT work after 25 years!) It's disappointing how much they lock down the CPU performance and RAM speed.
Just wanna say you do a good job. a real good job. on sorting this all out. I appreciate the information very much. thinking about buying a gaming PC right now. in between DELL AND HP
@user-lf6op2fh8e thank you so much! I really appreciate that!
love the back ground wish i could afford any pc but i cant .been disabled is a struggle financially love to watch tech and your videos are clean .not asking for anything i am just a guy that loves your work and efort that you put into the videos
Hope ur able to purchase one one day
Most indepth review ive seen in a while and i appreciate you discussing upgradeability. A lot of users upgrade their pcs and i hate watching a review never knowing if i can upgrade something in it
Phenomenal review. I purchased the R16 on a whim from a DELL advertisement last night. Glancing at the specs for CPU, GPU, M.2 capacity, and RAM specs.....I scratched my head when I saw the DELL online price! Like....is this a http site or https?! LOL. I ordered. Literally watched to see the USB Gen Specs for the rear, but was blown away by your presentation and in depth Desktop review. Again, phenomenal, keep it up nerd brother!
Same. Got the 4070ti super for only $1350. Seems wild.
just wanted to drop a note and say that you really nailed it when it comes to people like myself who just go the pre built route. Back in the day, when my eyes worked 100% and I had the time and energy, taking apart, building, upgrading my computers(even back in the old Commodore Amiga days) was enjoyable. Now, I'm paying for the convivence and for someone else to figure out and build a modern PC for me. Hence, having watched all your pre built review vids to date(great stuff) as i am currently in the market to upgrade my Alienware R9, to see if I should just stick with Alienware as they have never failed me in the past, or take the plunge and give someone else a shot!
Totally agree. I liked that section of the video. I don't get why people make so much of this. The same logic would apply to many things in life- house cleaning, gardening, bringing lunch to work instead of eating out, making coffee at home. We all make these choices for ourselves. For me building or upgrading would be a chore not a joy. Others enjoys it. Great.
Exact specs are going to depend on what your doing but in general AMD is kicking Intel in everything: better performance per watt (more zoom for less power), overall performance (the E cores are only about 40% of a P core. Stack enough and they have some heavy duty power, but suddenly '24 cores' looks a bit less impressive when the 8 P cores beat the 16 E cores. And AMD is all 'P core'. And if your mostly gaming, the X3D is silly good. No one benchmarks with the OG 5800X3D because it sits around the middle of the pack. So about on par with chips 2 generations newer and on a 5+ year old socket. Its sort of too good. And the new ones are even better. With an exception or 2, at worst they are tied with Intel and the rest of the AMD CPUs. They can be quite a bit better.
As for where to get one? X3D builds are a bit rare but look at not Alienware. Too many 'good reviews' that are "of the review system provided to us by Dell". Aka If we don't like your review, you don't get another review sample. When you do find a legitimate "we paid $$$ for this", suddenly the tune changes: AW is lucky to tie, it often falls well short of 'off the shelf' hardware. Then pair with 'knows what they are doing' and $1800 Alienware gets clobbered by $1800 'Custom' build.
Strictly "it works as it should out of the box, no fiddling at all required" is quite rare. Builders are a little too loose and sloppy with builds (a 'test' may be to run a benchmark: CPU @ 100C and 4k points short "what seems to be the problem?" Umm your thermal throttling the heck out of the system? Check the cooler/paste?)
But if your willing to do a '5 minute poke around': check XMP, shift a fan, etc. then a good system in a box isn't too hard to find. I think Skytek got good marks, ABS (except they are Newegg house brand, blachk). Gamers Nexus has a good series with 'works to spec out of the box' as the pass/fail criteria. Worth at least skimming that playlist.
Nothing wrong with going prebuilt, just not Alienware.
Just bought the R16 i9 4070. It’s my first PC and glad you told me what I wanted to hear lol
you should really consider benchmarking the Micro Center pre-built computers to see how they stack up with everyone else too. I always thought they had good cost to performance as well as very good warranties for systems backed with very good in store support for upgrades and guidance.
I picked almost the same spec on micro center it actually cost more. I’m talking about $400-500 more so I think it’s a bargain to purchase from Alienware. Besides they have a Black Friday deal now.
Is he US only guy ?
I ordered a R16 i9 14900F 4090 32 GB mem on 6 May I received it yesterday (13 May) with tax 2435.15 PLUS 15% off with Rakuten ($342) that brings total down to just under $2100. Iknow it's not the K chip but for the price I don't care. Love your channel and just subscribed.
how you get it so low
I just purchased a R16 with the i9 14900KF, 4090, 64GB, and 4TB M.2 for $3699 :) Gets delivered next week. Will be a nice upgrade from my self built i9 9900K and EVGA 2080 Ti
Where did you get it bro
@@slee98651 directly from Dell
Sale ends today
I just bought mine with 32Gb and 2 TB for 3000 tax included
Trash motherboard, looks ugly and terrible airflow. Decent price for a prebuilt of those spec though.
Great review. Buying this next week!
I just purchased an Alienware Aurora R16 with an RTX 4080 . I ordered it on 10.3.24 but it is still not shipped. I am not into upgrading, maybe 10 years ago but not now. I had a Digital Storm Velox but it died on me. I found that the CPU cooler's pump assemble came loose from the CPU. It also weighed 65+ pounds and was very hard to work on. I enjoy your channel and I hope my New PC comes soon, supposed to be by 10.16.24??
Really loved this review and got me really sticking with the Aurora R16. I'm not a builder and wont be doing interior messing around and staying with it few years (longer the better) what should my option on customizing the order build so I don't have to worry about a Pc for a good time? is processor and graphics card what I really need to look at? of course I'm going to use the 1000W Platinum Rated PSU, 240mm Liquid-Cooled CPU for the power supply. Just curious if I should go 4080 or 4090 for graphics and difference in the i9s? I'm probably going with the i9 14900KF. This would be a major upgrade from my Inspiron 3650. I already know ima spend a good buck on it just want to make sure I have the right parts. Any tip would help
@abandonedfilms4656 thank you for the kind words and sorry for the late reply! Yes the 4090 is SIGNIFICANTLY better than the 4080. If you check out my latest i7500 Review ruclips.net/video/rgy_3nUGPhE/видео.html in the Performance section you can see just how much higher of an average fps all the 4090 PCs had. i9 and 4090 will last you a LONG time
Go 4090, no question
Hi Just!N, please advice what unlocking your R16 involved. Excellent review thanks. regards, JB
Awesome review, as always.
Thank you @Qualkkuno !
I appreciate the review.. I've been seriously contemplating on purchasing this exact model.. My only question and it's probably a silly one as Im not PC savvy..Are these VR ready?.. Thanks in advance.. Cheers!
Absolutely beautiful pc. It handles any game i run at 150+ fps, **ON ULTRA GRAPHICS**
It's really easy to clean, and despite what many people say, if you maintain it, it really isn't loud at all. Obviously dust intake, etc would make it louder
In general it's worth the money (I added a 2080 TI and intel i9, worth the investment)
i had my Alienware Aurora R7 for years and its been good to me but its time to get a new PC and Alienware Aurora R16 is in my budget, only upgrades im getting are the 14900KF and 2tb m.2
Great review! I never got a response on the last r16 video😢 maybe I'll save up and get this one
@acidriott Sorry about that! These couple of months leading up to Black Friday are pretty crazy for tech reviewers. Glad you enjoyed the review! Which configuration do you think you'll be getting?
@@JustinTechTips hey no problem at all bro! I am surprised you guarentee a response! After learning about PC's and switching from console to pc I think I'll need to do a little more research! I want to stream forza motorsport/horizon and assetto corsa with mods to twitch and I have a $2500-$2700 usd budget.
When I’m ready to for a new high end pc, I just give away the old one.
Last time was a spec’d out Area51.
Great review. I've watched a bunch of these as I'm considering upgrading my PC. I currently have an Alienware Aurora R8 with an i7-9700k and an RTX 2070. Could I buy an RTX 4070 or 4080, or should I just go with a completely new rig? There is a good deal on the R16 with a 4080, which is what I'm considering if I don't just upgrade my graphics card.
@anthonylifrieri7 yeah I would definitely go with a new rig from an R8. A 4080 will not get the full benefits of the latest PCIe 5.0 technology since the R8 has PCIe gen 3. Also a 4080 would not pair well with a 9700k
@@JustinTechTips thanks for the advice. I couldn’t pull off a 4070 or 4070ti either right?
@@anthonylifrieri7you absolutely could. I also have an R8 with the i7- 9700k and upgraded from a 2070 to a 4070 and it runs flawlessly. It runs so much cooler and efficient. The main reason you cannot upgrade to a 4080 is because it will not fit in the case. That is what I was originally gonna upgrade to but found out it wouldn’t fit.
@@anthonylifrieri7 Real world difference between gen3 and gen4 for a GPU: 2, maybe 3%. To put that in terms of FPS, your going from 120 to maybe 123. It will show up on benchmarks, its probably going to be hanging around in the manger of error.
And given the 40 series are Gen4 cards, putting them in a gen5 slot will do nothing.
There is a slight concern due to Dell only wiring the slots in the pre R13 with x8, so you will be loosing a little. PCIe bandwidth doubles if you double the lanes or go up a generation. So Gen3x16=Gen4x8. So a Gen4x16 GPU running at Gen3x8 is taking a double hit. Not much, Probably ~5%, not 10%.
Its also going to matter what your doing. High resolution (1440, better 4k) with maxed out setting (better full raytracing) and even a 4090 is going to chug. Even if you pair it with a MUCH older CPU.
Also on the topic of selling people new systems on 'the new bigger number', aka PCIe 4/5/whatever. In terms of storage gen 4 drives are not that much better than gen3 drives. Yes the bandwidth doubled, but the real limiting factor is the SSD controller and how it handles random IO. That really hasn't gotten better. Benchmarks for that is rare, but a well built high end system shows ~1.3s (gen4) vs ~1.7s (gen3) load times with direct storage. Its easy to see in a benchmark if you zoom in a bunch with the number and the bars right next to each other. Real world? Good SSD go ZOom!
So no real issues with the core hardware, issues from Alienware: case size (they are small inside) and the PSU (4080 isn't as bad as the 3090, but they still chug power) 850W? Also cooling. Power in = heat out, and those cases and airflow...
Finally a channel who is unbiased and just the facts
Great video. Do you see any way to add a thunderbolt card to this?
Just discovered your channel Justin. Great stuff!
Checking this out, since its time to upgrade my 11th Gen i9 64GB XPS PC, and I was checking this one and a Cyberpower one. Have to have the 64GB, yup I am glad it doesnt have the lame look. Checking this out, I did spec it out, always hate the price upgrades. We shall see watching the vid :) Even though the i9 doesnt kick as much vs i7 I dunno, with laptops it was pointless, but who knows.
Hey I was wondering if it used HDMI to connect it to my monitor and is it a good starter PC
Outstanding Show ! Hooked me I just the same unit. AIO upgrade worth the cost ? XMP memory is needed to enable ? I know you cant with this machine. Kind of a dumb question.
What is your input on getting a single drive 4tb rather than 2tb OR dual 2tb m.2 PCIe? Would this be better for performance over all having separate files 1 drive for gaming 1 for miscellaneous? or all files in 1 drive? (Or add in the sata as 2nd storage be more useful?) Btw, appreciate your detailed video, keep up the good work.
I just bought my Aurora R16! 14th i9 with 4090 and 32gb of ram. I was kinda confused why it has a higher 5600mhz than the 64gb with 5200mhz, so I went with the 32gb. Hopefully it outperforms my 4090 m16 r1.
Thanks for the review gonna pick one up with discount code.
got this about a month ago. absolutely love it.
I just bought this PC for 2300 brand new from Dell with discounts and cash back. Really excited
Can't wait to use this for VR!!!
@ChrisChris011 Congrats Chris! Which VR headset will you be using?
Hi ! Great video ! I have a PS5 so do you recommend getting it for games like Fortnite, steam games and Microsoft Flight Simulator ? (I’m getting max specs)
Got the r11 2080 super around 2020 and I just now got this r16 4090 waiting for it to arrive🙌🏾
Bruh should've gotten cyberpowerpc 4090 best buy 3,429.99$ with 64gb of 6000mhz ram! You got ripped off.
User rating, 3.1 out of 5 stars with 18 reviews.
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LOL@@FullAfterburner
This was just $2000, you got fleeced lol@@FullAfterburner
I really am puzzled at not maintaining an interior lighting. Btw at 10:10, if you study the charts I think it’s worth noting CyberPower, AW, etc. traded CPU temps at a more-than-adequate 75c for substantially lower GPU thermals which is considerably better for gaming than the other extreme. At 10:47 it’s no surprise the AW sits dead middle for 4K which is why it has excellent 4K performance. It’s by design to be a 4K targeted system.
Have you found a way to boost the CPU? Great Review!!!
when you say usually there are some ssd and hard drive spaces, does that mean there are none on this pc? This means a lot to me as a video editor and i was contemplating on buying this pc. Subbed. Thanks
@chazdillon2909 yeah on the back of most computer cases there are usually brackets and space for mor hard drives. Unfortunately not on this one. This PC probably has one of the least expandable storage options
Great work! Love your content. Thanks Justin!
I have a question. You get the 6000MT/s DDR5 32 GB Memory for upgrade but the Owner's Manual shows only support Up to 5600 MT/s. Do you get any issue with 6000MT/s? How about 6400MT/s? I also tried to ask their support team, they said only 5600MT/s too.
Great review, man! "And we're gonna get to that here in a sec" 😂
As someone who has other alienware peripherals (headset & mouse) and has had alienware laptops in the past, I haven't used a desktop in over a decade, would you recommend this? I had to return 2 Alienware M18 R1's about a month ago (both had issues with hardware) would I be better off getting this desktop from best buy? (I have to use best buy due to having store credit) It's gonna be my first desktop in well over a decade, would the R16 be a good fit? Is the drives not having heatsinks on them a big issue for prolonged life of the PC/drive? Not looking to do any upgrades, just buy a PC thatll last me a few years without issue. Always liked the looks of Alienware.
The best answer to all of these would be to build your own, Alienware is notorious for heating issues and hardware issues. If you build your own it will last you years and years.
@@Ritzcrackers99 Yeah, I know that's what everyone says, "Build your own" I actually don't have a whole lot of space to work with and after crunching some numbers, getting new furniture right now so I can have a desktop is out of the realm of possibility.
R16 i9 4080 being delivered today. Thanks!
Has the pc preformed good? And did having only 1 fan majorly effect it?
R16 i7 4060 for me !!!!!!
I’m looking into buying the Alienware r16 it’s mainly because I can’t pay outta pocket so I need monthly payments which Dell offers. I would like to know if Alienware is actually good Ik it has some overheating issues as well as the proprietary parts and such. Would you recommend the r16 Aurora for a person trying to play good games.
KEEP DOING GREAT WORK JUSTIN YOU ALWAYS HAVE MINE SUPPORT
@anupamnigam8575 I really appreciate that! Thank you for your kind words
I'm thinking of buying the r16 with 14900KF and 4080. Would you recommend I buy the 14900KF with 4090 instead?
Did you use the FURY BEAST RGB 64GB DDR5-5600 Dual Channel RAM Kit, 2x 32GB, C40, Black (Part #KF556C40BBAK2-64)? Will it work for the R16 Intel 14th gen i9 @ 5600mhz out of the box?
The manual doesn't say it supports 64GB 5600mhz ram setup. This video didn't mention the size and speed of the Fury Beast kit that was used either.
Is XMP profile now enabled in the latest bios?
Sadly didn’t get an answer from this channel. I had hopes considering this review is so detailed. But just like other RUclips channels, subscribing just increases the user base, you wouldn’t get any answers or reply.
“You only get a personal reply only when you subscribe”. But why would I subscribe if I know now you’re not really being genuinely helpful?
Definitely NOT subscribing.
Great video! I hope Nvidia redesign the high-end VGA back it to smaller sizes, I like my Corsair One desktop size!
The most clever thing that dell has done on r15 and 16 is they move the CPU radiator to the top instead of in the rear. Therefore CPU won't eat up all the hot exhaust from GPU. It cost how many years to make them realize that?
Off topic u should definitely do a quest 3 review I'm unsure if I should get one and as of rn you are the only one I trust to do a full review
tbh idk why people so much hate Dell and alienware, I have the alienware m17 laptop i7 8th and still run like a champ, just order my r16 i7 13th, rtx 4070 ti with discount code bf tax 1660$ because cs2 lol
Yeeah ive had several of their laptops but no desktops. Their laptops have always been tanks and the most powerful compared to the competition. But their desktops seem cheaply made with cheap proprietary internals, which i have a problem with. I got their AW Graphics amplifier and they dont support it anymore. So theyre not perfect, but i still like their laptops.
Hey Justin! I know I’m pretty late but if it was possible for you to answer this comment. Is there a way you could make a video on how to add rgb fans to aurora r16? Thanks!
Very informative ty! What are your thoughts on Corsair Vengeance i8100 vs a8100?
will you please tell me if this setup with a i9 14900F and a 4080 super will be fine together?
Hi, I am having trouble deciding between this Alienware Aurora R16 dekstop and the HP Omen 40 L. Could you possibly share which you would buy? Its for my son who is big into gaming. Id really appreciate the help. 😊 thanks
I always like ur vids bro 👌🏻
I plan on getting whatever the latest Alienware PC is when Im 18 or older and have a good paying job. I might get 4TB on it
The real question is whether or not Steve will like the new model.
this was very helpful and great presentation i appreciated the information.
Hi Justin, can you turn off the colour display altogether without affecting computing, please? I look forward to your comment. Thanks and Regards JB
Where were you when I purchased my Aurora R11 4 years ago!!! This PCs high temps make me upset considering it was supposed to a gaming computer.
Do you believe this PC would be good for streaming alongside playing games on it?
If you vertically mount the GPU using a riser cable then you should be able to use the 2 expansion slots.
Even though i can't afford one as a third world country teen, i still came here to admire how beautiful this PC is. Just seeing it gave me a rush of excitement and joy-it's incredible to look at!...those specs are mind-blowing...thanks for the review :)
hi thinking of buying the R16 with some parts changed im moving from xbox to pc. the specs are -
Aurora R16
Processor
13th Gen Intel® Core™ i9-13900F (68MB, 24 cores, 32 threads, up to 5.60 GHz P-Core Thermal Velocity)
Operating System
Windows 11 Home, English, Dutch, French, German, Italian
Graphics
NVIDIA® GeForce RTX™ 4070 SUPER 12GB GDDR6X
Memory
32 GB: 2 x 16 GB, DDR5, 5600 MT/s
Storage
2 TB (2 x 1 TB), M.2, PCIe, SSD
Chassis Options
1000W Platinum Rated PSU, 240mm Liquid-Cooled CPU & Clear Side Panel
Wireless
Intel® Killer™ Wi-Fi 6E AX1675, 2x2, 802.11ax, MU-MIMO, Bluetooth® wireless card
are there any major limiting things i should change before i buy or will this be a well rounded pc?
note i copied and pasted this from the spec area of dells website.
Question Just!n.
Ready for a new pc, my current one I built (Air Cooled, NVIDIA GTX 1080 Ti, i7) back in 2017. It was only the 2nd pc I've ever built, the other I had for about 7yrs. also. I know just enough about building a computer to be danger to my wallet. lol Anyway I've been looking around at umpteen million sites at pre-builds, the AURORA R16 caught my attention. So "Alienware Aurora R16 w/ 8 TB (2 x 4 TB), M.2, PCIe, SSD & 1000W Platinum Rated PSU". Do you think this is a solid choice? I know it's not cheap ($4400 before txs.) but as you've read, I keep my pc's for a while. If not what would you recommend? Mainly use for games and movies. Thanks in advance!
@Out_Break_Monkey I think it's absolute robery that Dell is trying to charge you $700 extra to bump up to a dual drive 8TB (2 x 4TB). It has to be intentionally misleading the way they did that. That dual drive option is only adding one more 4TB drive from the standard 4TB they start you at. You're better off getting this one bit.ly/Alienware-Aurora-R16-14thGen and then buying this better 4TB SSD drive bestbuy.7tiv.net/k0x2gx from Best Buy for half that. Installing SSDs are super easy and it will take you no time at all. To save that $350 extra that Dell is trying to mark it up for.
@@JustinTechTips Thank you for replying back and the info! You're right, I'll grab a 4TB stick and save a good chunk of change. 😀
Hello tech guy. I am looking to purchase the nee Dell R16. Does it worth my money 💰 I hate the other "spaceship design the dell put out. I need something real BLAST FAST and can destroy anything I throw to it. Does the DELL R16 is the right PC?
it's finally something to consider. Dell always has some kind of sale to add onto this making it an option for people that just want to order
I would like your honest opinion on my questions will the high end alien 👽 desktop gaming pc will be able to match this custom gaming pc in terms of 4k graphics resolution, performance and temperature wise though ?? *
Will I notice the difference between the quality of graphics compared to ps5 ? Will it be better ? I’m referring to the alien high end desktop not the custom gaming pc… my other question is will the alien high end pc be better in quality of graphics compare to the ps5 ? Will I be able to run mods on the alien desktop pc ?
What about super ray tracing ? Will the alien high end pc be able to deliver ?
Lian Li evo rgb pro WHITE case
* Motherboard:
* ASUS ROG CROSSHAIR X670E HERO
* Processor:
* AMD RYZEN 9 7950X3D 16C/32T 5.7GHZ
* Memory:
* PERFORMANCE DDR5 5600Mhz 8GB [32GB (8x4)]
* SSD (M.2 NVMe):
* (5x) MSI SPATIUM M480 PRO PCIe 4.0 NVMe M.2 [4 TB]
* SSD (SATA):
* SSD 2.5" [4 TB]
* CPU Cooling:
* ASUS ROG RYUJIN III 360 ARGB WHITE
* Power Supply:
* 80PLUS TITANIUM 1600W ATX 3.0 POWER SUPPLY
* Graphics Card(s):
* ROG Strix GeForce RTX® 4090 OC WHITE Edition 24GB GDDR6X
* Capture Card:
* Elgato PCIE 4K60 Pro
* Sleeving:
* Lian li Strimer V2 RGB Sleeving Kit
* Operating System:
* Windows 11 [Pro]
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Nice review.
where can i buy one? that can deliver here in Philippines?
Justin, is there any chance you could do a tutorial video on changing the liquid cooling system!?