100m push crown has been ok in cheap Seikos for decades, dont see why it would be a problem here. In reality most people even swimming never get past 2m.
Yeah but someone from marketing will be along to tell you that you need at least 300m of water resistance to wash your hands. I've been swimming in watches with WR of 3 ATM and there was no issue.
Well said. You don't need a screw down crown unless you are diving to extreme depths. Pagani are one of the few Ali brands who actually depth test their watches. I have swam with several Pagani's with no issues.
Very true. I'm a diver myself and been doing it for 30 years. Even 300m water resistance is unnecessary, I've never gone deeper than around 50m to 60m and that's only because I've BSAC and PADI certs. I'm not as young anymore so now 20m is about my maximum. I do use high resistance watches as dive computer backups but I'm pretty sure a 100m diver would be fine with a screw down crown and if Seiko says their non screw down Seiko 5 is ok to 100m, I'd believe it. As for Chinese watches I have worn the 200m Heimdallr Monster and 300m Steeldive Tuna and both were watertight, at my maximum diving depth. I did have a leaking Pagani though, but maybe it was just that watch. I grew up in a non dive computer world and Seiko, Citizen, Casio Frogman were my usual !
As a 66 year old, I have had watches almost all my life with push/pull crowns and can't remember one that failed from water intrusion. I still have my first Timex for the mid sixties.
So, are they finally getting a grip on their lume? Their Achilles Heel for so long, with no signs of sorting this out. I only have 1 of their watches, because the lume is so poor. About time they sorted this out, as one of the biggest AliExpress brands, who always fail on the same issue.
The thing you don't mention but has HUGE importance is the use of only the logo on the dial without the letters spelling out the brand. That was the one thing why I refrained from buying a watch from them.
Thanks for the review. The AliX website says lug width is 20mm, not 19mm. I might have purchased this watch with a 20mm lug width. Thanks to your video, I know it's 19mm, so i won't be buying it.
I don't consider a push pull crown a deal breaker on a sports watch as long as the crown gasket is decent. I've owned several Citizen and Seikos with 100m WR and no screw down crown.
Hello my friend and thank you for your excellent channel. The watch brand is not one I order a watch from. Pagani Design with this particular watch looks to some extend like a Watch dives watch, I am not personally impressed by this not assuring brand and not convinced by the watch unless for anyone looking for having basically a need to have a watch then this watch is just another watch at a low price point with the brand that has a 4.5 out 10 points rating only in my personal observation that of course no other channel viewer has to agree with my opinion. Thank you for the outstanding in depth reviews, every time outstanding work by you my friend..!!
Criticality is essential when it calls for in justification to separate the good or the excellent products from the mediocre that contaminates what has greater value. You are doing exceptionally well in your judgement without being unfair..!
Thank you Shiny Things. I have a question. 14400 bph, 2 Hz. I know it's a quartz who is 'mimicking' an automatic movement. I thought that more you have bph more it is accurate. For instance an automatic with 28000 bph is more accurate than one with 21600 bph. How come the vh31 is still more accurate than an automatic one at 14400 bph? Keep up the good work.
A standard quartz crystal oscillates at 32.768 kHz. Whether it ticks once per second or 4 times per second is just a function of the way the stepper motor advances the mechanism, so it's just an output, the actual timing is done by the quartz crystal, so the number of ticks per second has no impact on accuracy. The Bulova Precisionist ticks 16 times per second I think, and uses a 232kHz movement.
I wondered why this watch didn’t look right with the white numerals on the same dial as the beaver-teeth-orange fangs. It’s because the Omega Seamaster 300 Co-Axial Master’s numerals are the same color as its hourly fang markers. It seems to me the only reason Pagani did not copy the Omega’s numerals along with the rest of the Omega was because they wanted to be able to call this watch an homage and not a copy. Otherwise it appears to be a slavish note for note copy.
Definitely an improvement, the lume and the bracelet. But I'll never spend on a Pagani over 50€ . I rather spend extra few bucks and buy me a Watchdives, way better watches
Comeback? What a nonesense. I bet PD is still the best selling brand on Aliexpress, by far! They remain to this very day to be the best bang for the bucks. 100%
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100m push crown has been ok in cheap Seikos for decades, dont see why it would be a problem here. In reality most people even swimming never get past 2m.
Yeah but someone from marketing will be along to tell you that you need at least 300m of water resistance to wash your hands. I've been swimming in watches with WR of 3 ATM and there was no issue.
Well said. You don't need a screw down crown unless you are diving to extreme depths. Pagani are one of the few Ali brands who actually depth test their watches. I have swam with several Pagani's with no issues.
Very true. I'm a diver myself and been doing it for 30 years. Even 300m water resistance is unnecessary, I've never gone deeper than around 50m to 60m and that's only because I've BSAC and PADI certs. I'm not as young anymore so now 20m is about my maximum. I do use high resistance watches as dive computer backups but I'm pretty sure a 100m diver would be fine with a screw down crown and if Seiko says their non screw down Seiko 5 is ok to 100m, I'd believe it. As for Chinese watches I have worn the 200m Heimdallr Monster and 300m Steeldive Tuna and both were watertight, at my maximum diving depth. I did have a leaking Pagani though, but maybe it was just that watch. I grew up in a non dive computer world and Seiko, Citizen, Casio Frogman were my usual !
Finally a bit of improvement in the Lume category, that's something. Thanks for the review, I was waiting for this one
As a 66 year old, I have had watches almost all my life with push/pull crowns and can't remember one that failed from water intrusion. I still have my first Timex for the mid sixties.
@@jims4539
Good deal sir from a 65 year old watch collector ..!!
I give it a month before watchdives use their new aqua terra case with the Railmaster dial they developed with San Martin
So, are they finally getting a grip on their lume? Their Achilles Heel for so long, with no signs of sorting this out. I only have 1 of their watches, because the lume is so poor. About time they sorted this out, as one of the biggest AliExpress brands, who always fail on the same issue.
Who cares about lume😂😂 you wake up at 3am to check the time you'll need to put a light on simple as lol there's no point in lume!
The thing you don't mention but has HUGE importance is the use of only the logo on the dial without the letters spelling out the brand. That was the one thing why I refrained from buying a watch from them.
@PietroCozziTinin Thank you! It is an important change!
Thanks for the review. The AliX website says lug width is 20mm, not 19mm. I might have purchased this watch with a 20mm lug width. Thanks to your video, I know it's 19mm, so i won't be buying it.
I don't consider a push pull crown a deal breaker on a sports watch as long as the crown gasket is decent. I've owned several Citizen and Seikos with 100m WR and no screw down crown.
Hello my friend and thank you for your excellent channel. The watch brand is not one I order a watch from. Pagani Design with this particular watch looks to some extend like a Watch dives watch, I am not personally impressed by this not assuring brand and not convinced by the watch unless for anyone looking for having basically a need to have a watch then this watch is just another watch at a low price point with the brand that has a 4.5 out 10 points rating only in my personal observation that of course no other channel viewer has to agree with my opinion. Thank you for the outstanding in depth reviews, every time outstanding work by you my friend..!!
Criticality is essential when it calls for in justification to separate the good or the excellent products from the mediocre that contaminates what has greater value. You are doing exceptionally well in your judgement without being unfair..!
Thank you Shiny Things. I have a question. 14400 bph, 2 Hz. I know it's a quartz who is 'mimicking' an automatic movement. I thought that more you have bph more it is accurate. For instance an automatic with 28000 bph is more accurate than one with 21600 bph. How come the vh31 is still more accurate than an automatic one at 14400 bph? Keep up the good work.
Spring power reserve and the battery powering all the differences. NH is -20+40s a day specs and vh31 is -15+15s a month specs.
a faster beating quartz would wear its battery out in half the time so this is a decent compromise
A standard quartz crystal oscillates at 32.768 kHz. Whether it ticks once per second or 4 times per second is just a function of the way the stepper motor advances the mechanism, so it's just an output, the actual timing is done by the quartz crystal, so the number of ticks per second has no impact on accuracy. The Bulova Precisionist ticks 16 times per second I think, and uses a 232kHz movement.
@@Peter-z5f Thank you very much!
@@balbes227 Thanks!
Is this a Omega Seamaster 300 homage? I have the older version of this.
This is the YS005 without the unidirectional bezel. Love this dial but I already have the YS005 😂
I wondered why this watch didn’t look right with the white numerals on the same dial as the beaver-teeth-orange fangs.
It’s because the Omega Seamaster 300 Co-Axial Master’s numerals are the same color as its hourly fang markers.
It seems to me the only reason Pagani did not copy the Omega’s numerals along with the rest of the Omega was because they wanted to be able to call this watch an homage and not a copy.
Otherwise it appears to be a slavish note for note copy.
Definitely an improvement, the lume and the bracelet. But I'll never spend on a Pagani over 50€ . I rather spend extra few bucks and buy me a Watchdives, way better watches
Comeback? What a nonesense. I bet PD is still the best selling brand on Aliexpress, by far! They remain to this very day to be the best bang for the bucks. 100%
Lume sees to get better, work on it pagani you will get more business
nice one for the ladies
its an omega railmaster
Seriously. How can anyone take this seriously. It's a rail master copy. Buy if you want a $60, rail master.
@@ultimaetsolder he meant to identify what it is homaging
Oh… so you watched the same video we watched and read the description as we all did also.
I don't mind push-pull crown on edc style watch like this. Pagani = meh. Too many AliX brands do it better.
A generic quartz copy with weird multi colour lume, nothing to see here.
It's quartz. I'm new to watch collecting but if I was going to get a quartz it would not be an AliExpress brand. This looks like cheap junk
Pagani is cooked TBH...you can get better quality and better "designs" for $20 more from other Chinese brands.
name some...please
@@clc2328Steeldive and Addiesdive, to name a couple
@@clc2328 Addiesdive for one.
I don't like quartz
And that's perfectly fine. Personally, I don't like blue cheeses.
@ajvoice6290 everything fine 💁🇩🇪
Not bad for 60 bones!🦴