Affordable is different for everyone, but sub 1000 usd/euro is what i would consider affordable aswell. My favorite watch in that price range is my Seiko U.T.D. SCVL001. It is a ultra-thin dress watch that has a hand decorated manualwind movement. The case is only 5.7mm thick, including the display caseback and slightly domed crystal. It is thinner than most of its swiss competitors that are 3 to 5 times as expensive. Credor also still uses the same movement till this day, so getting it serviced isnt any issue!
Congrats on 20 yrs of Fratello. You’ve become my favorite & most reliable watch publication/outlet. What is Fratello’s story? How did it come about, grow, and what is the vision for the future?
I think the biggest strength of the affordable watch market is allowing it to be accessible to new watch enthusiasts. Like you mentioned people interested in watches get interested in the Rolexes, APs, GPs, etc. But they wont be able to afford them right away. Then they can get a Seiko or microbrand to start off with.
Great watches to mention from different ends of the spectrum. Something to catch the attention of the public (PRX and the MoonSwatch/Scuba) and something to catch the attention of enthusiasts (Arken).
Black blank pine sea of storms. That would be another great one for the Q&A, go and buy it and go and talk about it. I really like that also. Only these less expensive watches which is OK for the enthusiast. Maybe it does help you to get comfortable with the idea of actually putting seven point?
This is something I struggle with, whether to have a higher quantity of affordable watches (sub $1000) or saving up for the more expensive but still obtainable heavy hitters (sub $10,000). There is such an amazing variety of affordable watches out there, yet my dreams are full of the more expensive ones. Is that because they are actually of better quality and longer-lasting, or just because I’m conditioned to think that way by the brands?
Right! Because in one aspect, experiencing different watches is fun and enjoyable, but then it’s on to the next one. Even when buying pre-owned to save as much money as I can, when it comes time to sell I usually lose money or at best break even because of taxes and seller fees. I justify it by it being part of the cost of a watch hobby, but then it takes longer to get the big dawgs. Some say just go to ADs to try them on, but 5 min in a jeweler is not really experiencing them, to me.
Another question for the special episode: We have seen how the price and production of new watches from well established brands has increased, at the same time the demand for many of these has decreased dramatically. How donyou see the Swiss industry adjusting to this? Decrease production? Maintain production and send watches to different markets? Any other options?
Question for the 100th podcast. What was the best watch release of the last decade? Was the release of the MoonSwatch the best release of the last decade (my opinion).
Q&A: The last Morgen Stanley report shows how Breitling has come a long way up since 2017 in the rankings of the top Swiss brands, taking at some point the place of IWC. Do you see the separation of these brands increasing? Breitling still going up and IWC down?
Get a vintage Omega Seamaster Polaris if you want a beautiful authentic Gerald Genta watch with a touch of gold for under €1000, I have one and its 😍🥰🤩 And I have a 19cm wrist and its perfect.
Question for the 100 episode: We have seen how multibrand watch fairs have started to multiply bringing more and more access and interest towards new brands and old brand that don't mind sharing the same space with the new ones. On the other hand, well established brands have locked in monobarnd boutiques, in an effort to leverage their exclusivity. Do you see one of these trends taking the lead in the future? Or are both going to succeed or may perish?
Q&A: If the next Swatch collaboration is going to be with one long discontinued model from one of the Swatch Group brands and you had to chose it. Witch would be and why would that make sense?
Q&A: Isn't the watch industry currently naming "collector" someone that is simply a good customer? What would be the difference between both and would it be of any benefit inthe current situation of the market to better make a difference between both?
Q&A: Imagine that a very good source tells you a Richmond is selling one of its watch brands to LVMH. Wich would be and why would LVMH have interest in that one?
For your Q&A: if you could only have one watch and Price was not an option, what would you have. And if you could only have one watch amongst your existing collection, what would it be. How important is changing up the straps to making a watch, not get old. or tricks you use to keep getting excited about your existing watches. Would you ever consider bringing back any of your releases in the past that were really popular. The future of your business for the next year, wish list, little teasers, things that are going well in your business, things that are not going well, and what you could do differently. Hopefully amongst thatlist you can find something that might be useful. Feel free to use none, just enjoy your contact. Enjoy.
Q: how much sway do you have with brands? Please convince Seiko to rerelease the Voice Note, same limited tech and everything. There’s a great picture of Ray Bradbury wearing one holding a cat; also, Ghostbusters. Maybe a Seiko x Fratello limited edition…
Q&A why if we can use a watch on the beach where it is exposed to sun and heat and than cold water of ocean, we are being told not to use them in a sauna 🤔
Theres no concrete answer but its mainly about wearing watches in extreme temperatures versus normal temperatures "can lead to" increased deterioration. Its a disclaimer thing like how if you wear your watch in rough conditions it can increase the likelihood of damaging it. In reality ive worn my Tudor Pelagos into saunas, glaciers, hot tubs, pools, you name it and I had no issues. The worse Ive gotten is the bezel tightened once but a bit of turning got it back to normal.
@@danielbercovici5202 @TellingTimeYT got it exactly right. It's about avoiding extremes. Also, if the seals are already about to fail, the heat (and subsequent expansion) and humidity of the sauna could cause extra damage to your watch.
Q&A: If someone from the year 2035 came to the present, what would shock you more to hear, that 80% of the watch sales are donde in 2035 online or that 80% of the watch sales are don in 2035 e in a physical place?
Great episode on affordable watches. If you need any ideas for newer episodes, I would love to see a rainbow episode where you each pick your favorite watches for each color of the rainbow.
For your Q&A: if you could only have one watch and Price was not an option, what would you have. And if you could only have one watch amongst your existing collection, what would it be. How important is changing up the straps to making a watch, not get old. or tricks you use to keep getting excited about your existing watches. Would you ever consider bringing back any of your releases in the past that were really popular. The future of your business for the next year, wish list, little teasers, things that are going well in your business, things that are not going well, and what you could do differently. Hopefully amongst thatlist you can find something that might be useful. Feel free to use none, just enjoy your contact. Enjoy.
Thank you for pumping new enthusiast content daily. You are filling very well the space Hodinkee left a while ago
Alterum owner here - I’ve owned lots of micros but this one has something special to it.
Affordable is different for everyone, but sub 1000 usd/euro is what i would consider affordable aswell.
My favorite watch in that price range is my Seiko U.T.D. SCVL001. It is a ultra-thin dress watch that has a hand decorated manualwind movement. The case is only 5.7mm thick, including the display caseback and slightly domed crystal. It is thinner than most of its swiss competitors that are 3 to 5 times as expensive.
Credor also still uses the same movement till this day, so getting it serviced isnt any issue!
Thanks for this great podcast, this is probably the best watch talk format around ! Congrats !
Vintage seamaster deville I have 3 mostly I paid about 500 for them so classy and beautiful
For affordable, I always look to Orient. Classic designs, in-house movements, and you can get multiple complications for under £300.
Lex is the king of the “wrist snap”’
Amazing to catch another episode early!
Congrats on 20 yrs of Fratello. You’ve become my favorite & most reliable watch publication/outlet. What is Fratello’s story? How did it come about, grow, and what is the vision for the future?
I think the biggest strength of the affordable watch market is allowing it to be accessible to new watch enthusiasts. Like you mentioned people interested in watches get interested in the Rolexes, APs, GPs, etc. But they wont be able to afford them right away. Then they can get a Seiko or microbrand to start off with.
That Lex with a Cubitus joke was fierce, Nacho 😂
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Great watches to mention from different ends of the spectrum. Something to catch the attention of the public (PRX and the MoonSwatch/Scuba) and something to catch the attention of enthusiasts (Arken).
Black blank pine sea of storms. That would be another great one for the Q&A, go and buy it and go and talk about it. I really like that also. Only these less expensive watches which is OK for the enthusiast. Maybe it does help you to get comfortable with the idea of actually putting seven point?
Clothes and shoes haven't changed from the last episode but the wristwatches have.
This is something I struggle with, whether to have a higher quantity of affordable watches (sub $1000) or saving up for the more expensive but still obtainable heavy hitters (sub $10,000). There is such an amazing variety of affordable watches out there, yet my dreams are full of the more expensive ones. Is that because they are actually of better quality and longer-lasting, or just because I’m conditioned to think that way by the brands?
Could be a good topic for us to discuss in the future!
That is literally my dilemma as well. Another „budget“ watch that will set me back On the road to the „big one“
Right! Because in one aspect, experiencing different watches is fun and enjoyable, but then it’s on to the next one. Even when buying pre-owned to save as much money as I can, when it comes time to sell I usually lose money or at best break even because of taxes and seller fees. I justify it by it being part of the cost of a watch hobby, but then it takes longer to get the big dawgs. Some say just go to ADs to try them on, but 5 min in a jeweler is not really experiencing them, to me.
Another question for the special episode: We have seen how the price and production of new watches from well established brands has increased, at the same time the demand for many of these has decreased dramatically. How donyou see the Swiss industry adjusting to this? Decrease production? Maintain production and send watches to different markets? Any other options?
Question for the 100th podcast.
What was the best watch release of the last decade?
Was the release of the MoonSwatch the best release of the last decade (my opinion).
Theses Hipsters need ironic mustaches.
Q&A: The last Morgen Stanley report shows how Breitling has come a long way up since 2017 in the rankings of the top Swiss brands, taking at some point the place of IWC. Do you see the separation of these brands increasing? Breitling still going up and IWC down?
Yay!
Get a vintage Omega Seamaster Polaris if you want a beautiful authentic Gerald Genta watch with a touch of gold for under €1000, I have one and its 😍🥰🤩 And I have a 19cm wrist and its perfect.
I own one as well. It's very cool
Good shout! We might have to do a vintage affordables edition!
@@nachocondegarzon i think that would be amazing content.
Q&A do you think we will see more integration between traditional watchmaking and smartwatches in the future?
why don’t you review a Raketa big zero? Looks awesome
Question for the 100 episode: We have seen how multibrand watch fairs have started to multiply bringing more and more access and interest towards new brands and old brand that don't mind sharing the same space with the new ones. On the other hand, well established brands have locked in monobarnd boutiques, in an effort to leverage their exclusivity. Do you see one of these trends taking the lead in the future? Or are both going to succeed or may perish?
Q&A: If the next Swatch collaboration is going to be with one long discontinued model from one of the Swatch Group brands and you had to chose it. Witch would be and why would that make sense?
Q&A: Isn't the watch industry currently naming "collector" someone that is simply a good customer? What would be the difference between both and would it be of any benefit inthe current situation of the market to better make a difference between both?
Q&A: Imagine that a very good source tells you a Richmond is selling one of its watch brands to LVMH. Wich would be and why would LVMH have interest in that one?
For your Q&A: if you could only have one watch and Price was not an option, what would you have. And if you could only have one watch amongst your existing collection, what would it be. How important is changing up the straps to making a watch, not get old. or tricks you use to keep getting excited about your existing watches. Would you ever consider bringing back any of your releases in the past that were really popular. The future of your business for the next year, wish list, little teasers, things that are going well in your business, things that are not going well, and what you could do differently. Hopefully amongst thatlist you can find something that might be useful. Feel free to use none, just enjoy your contact. Enjoy.
Q: how much sway do you have with brands? Please convince Seiko to rerelease the Voice Note, same limited tech and everything. There’s a great picture of Ray Bradbury wearing one holding a cat; also, Ghostbusters. Maybe a Seiko x Fratello limited edition…
Don’t you agree that watches oversimplify the concept of time and that our affection for the watches is a desire to find a safe spot?
Q&A why if we can use a watch on the beach where it is exposed to sun and heat and than cold water of ocean, we are being told not to use them in a sauna 🤔
I’m guessing it’s because of the sudden rise in temp?
Theres no concrete answer but its mainly about wearing watches in extreme temperatures versus normal temperatures "can lead to" increased deterioration. Its a disclaimer thing like how if you wear your watch in rough conditions it can increase the likelihood of damaging it. In reality ive worn my Tudor Pelagos into saunas, glaciers, hot tubs, pools, you name it and I had no issues. The worse Ive gotten is the bezel tightened once but a bit of turning got it back to normal.
@TellingTimeYT thanks a lot makes sense 👌
@@danielbercovici5202 @TellingTimeYT got it exactly right. It's about avoiding extremes. Also, if the seals are already about to fail, the heat (and subsequent expansion) and humidity of the sauna could cause extra damage to your watch.
You can wear a dive watch in the sauna, no worries at all.
Q: Where do you see quartz watches going? What are somw of your favorite quartz watches?
Q&A: "And the winner of the best new watch between 1500 and 2500€ goes to..."
Love the format, but it’s really difficult to watch you guys all interrupt each other
Q&A - If you had to keep only ONE watch, which one would it be?
Q&A: If you agreed that Citizen is the new Seiko. Then Seiko would be for you the new...
Q&A: If someone from the year 2035 came to the present, what would shock you more to hear, that 80% of the watch sales are donde in 2035 online or that 80% of the watch sales are don in 2035 e in a physical place?
Great episode on affordable watches. If you need any ideas for newer episodes, I would love to see a rainbow episode where you each pick your favorite watches for each color of the rainbow.
For your Q&A: if you could only have one watch and Price was not an option, what would you have. And if you could only have one watch amongst your existing collection, what would it be. How important is changing up the straps to making a watch, not get old. or tricks you use to keep getting excited about your existing watches. Would you ever consider bringing back any of your releases in the past that were really popular. The future of your business for the next year, wish list, little teasers, things that are going well in your business, things that are not going well, and what you could do differently. Hopefully amongst thatlist you can find something that might be useful. Feel free to use none, just enjoy your contact. Enjoy.
Thank you! We'll take at least one of those for the episode :)