I share your concern about the Lockerbie case. The conviction of Abdelbaset al-Megrahi has been surrounded by controversy and debate. There are several aspects that have led people to question the fairness of the trial, including disputed evidence and witness testimony, as well as potential political influences.
Political Scientist Michael Parenti PhD once said " Democracy is not about trust , it is about distrust "...there must be accountability , questioning our elected and assigned government officials(force them to be public servants , do not follow them like sheep)
6:51 John Finnie, member of Scottish Parliament really hits the nail on the head . " It is important that an investigation doesn't just look for the evidence that supports an assertion . The most important thing is to collect all the evidence " . In the US and UK it is almost always the wrong way . The corporations and politicians put out an assertion , and only use evidence and even lies for and from non independent , political, vested interest investigators .
ElephantRage - Actually, the CIA sent one of their Assets (Susan Lindauer) ) with a threat (Extreme Prejudice: By Susan Lindauer) to the Libyan embassy in Washington DC to tell the Libyan that, they were going to be blamed for PANAM flight103 and that Libya cannot deny it but to accept the blame if not Libya is going to be bomb to the stone age. This was Why Muammar Gaddafi ( not A punk)came out STRONGLY and said NO, his country has nothing to do with it. When he refused, America put punitive sanctions on Libya for over 10 years that destroyed the Libyan economy and forced Libya to send the 2 falsely accused agent to Scottland. Since the 80s (Israel's deceptions in 1986 that made President Regan bombed Gaddafi's compound) America through Israel had been trying to kill Muammar Gaddafi which they finally succeeded in 2011 However, Libya had nothing to do with this incident and a lot of Libyans paid a price for something their country had nothing to do with.
I don't know about Iran but here is something that no one else knows in the world and you can look this up. I'm pretty sure some Middle Eastern country was involved for the simple fact. There was a CIA agent aboard that plan who had just finished his mission in Lebanon. was trying to make it back home for Christmas. His name was Matthew Kevin Gannon. May God rest his soul....
@@ianbuchan1793 How is that bullshit? Clearly one of the biggest links & clues pointing to a potential motive for the Lockerbie attack can be easily/reasonably linked to the US shooting down the Iranian civilian airliner in the summer of 1988 roughly six months before the Lockerbie attack. So any reference or suspicion into any potential links or motives between these two events is totally warranted & justified for investigators to look into. It doesnt mean that such potential motives or links are definitive proof but it does mean there is likely more to the story that could answer these questions posed by any investigation focusing on these two terrorist attacks in 1988. But as loaded as all that might be...sadly there is even more to these terror attacks that could lead to a larger investigation & conspiracy altogether. Such as any CIA misdeeds, geopolitical squabbles directed by US policy. Iranian/Syrian policy & not just Scotland Yard defensive roles with respect to their potentially flawed investigations but also over bearing US State Department policies that complicate geopolitical efforts to provide transparent & politically uncompromised investigations by the various geopolitical investigations into these matters. My own personal research into these events has lead me down a murky rabbit hole that ties into many many events & scandals spanning from the fallout from Iran Contra to the Iraqi Invasion of Kuwait to the US invasion of Iraq in 1991. And sadly that is putting it lightly. My investigation has lead me to believe there is far more to these events than the public can possibly imagine.
Thank you, and where was and is the public outrage about the poor 300 Iranians that were killed by the US ?? We have to care about everyone and both sides of the story. Perhaps if the UK had been angry with the US about that incident, as it should have been, then perhaps there wouldn't have been reprisals. If we don't care about others, then others won't care about us - treat others as you wish to be treated.
There's a BBC documentary about the USS Vincennes shooting down of an Iranian Airlines passenger flight - it's on RUclips. At the time, the BBC was making a report about the Vincennes - the high tech ship from the US Navy - at the time and they crew was on board the day they shot the civilian aircraft. There's a powerful comment, on the documentary, made by another US Navy chip captain, btw. He retired after the even while the USS Vincennes comander not only received no punishment but also was promoted. There's an older film by Allan Framcovich (In Company Business, Operation Gladio) about the bombing that brings the Iran-Contras into the case - together with a DEA investigation on heroing smuggling. Does anyone know if the information Framcovich brought up was later confirmed? He was an honest filmaker but he chose a difficult subject to talk about and sometimes, given the lack of hard evidence, he went with information from not very reliable sources. His films are, nonetheless, interesting, revealing and honest.
I'm not sure but my father personally knew John K Cooley in Cyprus and some of the things mentioned in your comment were also discovered by him and Pierre Salinger. Some of it was released to ABC news.
@@manipunation mueller lied to US congress before the invasion of iraq and 'helped' with the post 9/11 investigation where he covered up saudi royal family involvement and god knows what else.
@@emilio2647 by US and israel who wanted to set up a pretext against Libya. All the evidence links to autumn leaves cell being behind the lockerbie bombing and being contracted by Iran who carried it out in retaliation to iran air flight which was shot down
Here's my theory .... Prince Andrew , who made a Royal appearance on December 22nd at Lockerbie , was given the job of overseeing why an airliner had dropped on a Scottish town .... this sort of thing doesn't happen here , and if it does ... look out . MI5 and 6 are now on the job . Andrew moled into the Middle East and US political arenas . Intelligence showed that Reagan's administration was the guilty party , trying to erase evidence being transferred by that plane , that would bring the administration down . Result - Britain organised revenge on the next Republican administration - and blew away the World Trade Centre . Gaddafi agreed to take the blame for Lockerbie as a cover up of Scotlands revenge , having been in on it all along . The Libyan agent seen shaking hands with Scottish police on his release from prison - wouldn't of happened if Libya had been guilty . No country but Britain could have organised the WTC hit .... it,s a very fucked up world , but you really will be if you mess with the Scots .
Worst miscarriage of justice of all time..
I share your concern about the Lockerbie case. The conviction of Abdelbaset al-Megrahi has been surrounded by controversy and debate. There are several aspects that have led people to question the fairness of the trial, including disputed evidence and witness testimony, as well as potential political influences.
All these years ago and we are no closer to the truth, never trust your own government!
Political Scientist Michael Parenti PhD once said " Democracy is not about trust , it is about distrust "...there must be accountability , questioning our elected and assigned government officials(force them to be public servants , do not follow them like sheep)
Green Sky 17 never trust Westminster the US, Israel
@@pjohnson9576 what about France?😁
😂😂Your fkn government knew about it and Iran did the attack.
@@pjohnson9576damn right . Funny you wrote that 5 years ago and look what's happening in palestine and Israel at the moment !!
6:51 John Finnie, member of Scottish Parliament really hits the nail on the head . " It is important that an investigation doesn't just look for the evidence that supports an assertion . The most important thing is to collect all the evidence " . In the US and UK it is almost always the wrong way . The corporations and politicians put out an assertion , and only use evidence and even lies for and from non independent , political, vested interest investigators .
Kurt Tucholsky once said, and I translate the best I can; "Never underestimate the might of stupid people sharing an opinion"
Oh waooo!!! After LYBIA has been totally destroyed!! Bravo!!
And we pay for it
Hello from Malta Libby
We miss Gaddafi barka taAllah feek ma hija
@@lippuarabiwiggiibnfredutak4269 ❤️❤️❤️
And this is why, rightly, we don't have the death penalty. Mistakes and absolute frame ups, can and do happen
Syria was a key asset for the USA on the incoming Iraqui invasion, that's why it was kept out of it. Lybia was an easy scapegoat.
Elephant .....exactly.
100% correct
ElephantRage
- Actually, the CIA sent one of their Assets (Susan Lindauer) ) with a threat (Extreme Prejudice: By Susan Lindauer) to the Libyan embassy in Washington DC to tell the Libyan that, they were going to be blamed for PANAM flight103 and that Libya cannot deny it but to accept the blame if not Libya is going to be bomb to the stone age.
This was Why Muammar Gaddafi ( not A punk)came out STRONGLY and said NO, his country has nothing to do with it.
When he refused, America put punitive sanctions on Libya for over 10 years that destroyed the Libyan economy and forced Libya to send the 2 falsely accused agent to Scottland.
Since the 80s (Israel's deceptions in 1986 that made President Regan bombed Gaddafi's compound) America through Israel had been trying to kill Muammar Gaddafi which they finally succeeded in 2011
However, Libya had nothing to do with this incident and a lot of Libyans paid a price for something their country had nothing to do with.
@@TheIaluma do you have evidence to prove this?
@@emilio2647 - Read the book Extreme Prejudice: By Susan Lindauer, or search that name,. She was sent to prison for speaking out.
Frame Libya
To take their gold n oil...
Iran downed Pan Am 103 to avenge the downing of its IranAir flight.
I don't know about Iran but here is something that no one else knows in the world and you can look this up. I'm pretty sure some Middle Eastern country was involved for the simple fact. There was a CIA agent aboard that plan who had just finished his mission in Lebanon.
was trying to make it back home for Christmas. His name was Matthew Kevin Gannon. May God rest his soul....
@@coreyguy5216I’m sure a few know that mate especially me
Study the antecedents. This act of terror was payback for the USS Vincennes missile attack on an Iranian passenger jet. 300 deaths!
Joe Kelsall bullshit
@@ianbuchan1793 How is that bullshit? Clearly one of the biggest links & clues pointing to a potential motive for the Lockerbie attack can be easily/reasonably linked to the US shooting down the Iranian civilian airliner in the summer of 1988 roughly six months before the Lockerbie attack. So any reference or suspicion into any potential links or motives between these two events is totally warranted & justified for investigators to look into. It doesnt mean that such potential motives or links are definitive proof but it does mean there is likely more to the story that could answer these questions posed by any investigation focusing on these two terrorist attacks in 1988. But as loaded as all that might be...sadly there is even more to these terror attacks that could lead to a larger investigation & conspiracy altogether. Such as any CIA misdeeds, geopolitical squabbles directed by US policy. Iranian/Syrian policy & not just Scotland Yard defensive roles with respect to their potentially flawed investigations but also over bearing US State Department policies that complicate geopolitical efforts to provide transparent & politically uncompromised investigations by the various geopolitical investigations into these matters.
My own personal research into these events has lead me down a murky rabbit hole that ties into many many events & scandals spanning from the fallout from Iran Contra to the Iraqi Invasion of Kuwait to the US invasion of Iraq in 1991. And sadly that is putting it lightly. My investigation has lead me to believe there is far more to these events than the public can possibly imagine.
Thank you, and where was and is the public outrage about the poor 300 Iranians that were killed by the US ?? We have to care about everyone and both sides of the story. Perhaps if the UK had been angry with the US about that incident, as it should have been, then perhaps there wouldn't have been reprisals. If we don't care about others, then others won't care about us - treat others as you wish to be treated.
There was an american senator on board also a number of senior american active military people on board.does anyone know what they were upto?.
DISTRACTION Techniques tend to usitilse current situations as a distraction
Wow
It wasn’t libya at the end of the day
Now who needs a compensation for ruining its image and reputation ?
@A Z
The reason behind was the sanctions which was unlawfully putted on Libya
@A Z they had sanctions placed on them for years.
Wouldn't be surprised if the Iranians were involved..
There's a BBC documentary about the USS Vincennes shooting down of an Iranian Airlines passenger flight - it's on RUclips. At the time, the BBC was making a report about the Vincennes - the high tech ship from the US Navy - at the time and they crew was on board the day they shot the civilian aircraft.
There's a powerful comment, on the documentary, made by another US Navy chip captain, btw. He retired after the even while the USS Vincennes comander not only received no punishment but also was promoted.
There's an older film by Allan Framcovich (In Company Business, Operation Gladio) about the bombing that brings the Iran-Contras into the case - together with a DEA investigation on heroing smuggling. Does anyone know if the information Framcovich brought up was later confirmed? He was an honest filmaker but he chose a difficult subject to talk about and sometimes, given the lack of hard evidence, he went with information from not very reliable sources. His films are, nonetheless, interesting, revealing and honest.
I'm not sure but my father personally knew John K Cooley in Cyprus and some of the things mentioned in your comment were also discovered by him and Pierre Salinger. Some of it was released to ABC news.
This was known at the time. Clearly speculated on.
1:23 Is that AG Barr???
And there's Mueller at 1:31...
Well spotted there !
@@manipunation mueller lied to US congress before the invasion of iraq and 'helped' with the post 9/11 investigation where he covered up saudi royal family involvement and god knows what else.
Mueller and Barr. Extreme pieces of spit. Dirty lying dogs
More close to the truth than previous documentaries.
THANK YOU
TROLL
Magrai was innocent a patsy
Cover up of convenience
You mess with me, I find you and mess with you.
(Unit Load Devices) full to the gill's with cocaine and scattered all over the Scottish border.
more then likely the real lockerbie bomber is dead and was dying knowing that he got away with the murder of 270 people
Samara Broere wrong he was set up and framed
@@ianbuchan1793 set up and framed by who?
He will be suffering in death
@@emilio2647 by US and israel who wanted to set up a pretext against Libya. All the evidence links to autumn leaves cell being behind the lockerbie bombing and being contracted by Iran who carried it out in retaliation to iran air flight which was shot down
The villains who ordered that bombing are still in charge of a country.
Libya case closed !...Iran case still pending !!!
The uk men wanted a racket that would appease their plight. You need to look closer to home. Pittsburg was orchestrated by barnet too. FACT.
What a mass :(
BTW, your links do not give access
Libya might have supplied the semtex plastic explosives but not known what they would be used for.
London HAS fallen America. SOS SOS SOS SOS
It was iran for ir655 and the likes of terry waite
THE TIE
Rubbish, the master mind was Colonel Loren Gauley Howard Hughes body guard.
It was most likely Ahmad Jabril/Hafez Dalcomoni
inside job ( ;
israels job. its as like as 9/11 and khobar tower and us marine in beirut and uss liberty. israel is a motherfucking false flagger
Here's my theory .... Prince Andrew , who made a Royal appearance on December 22nd at Lockerbie , was given the job of overseeing why an airliner had dropped on a Scottish town .... this sort of thing doesn't happen here , and if it does ... look out . MI5 and 6 are now on the job . Andrew moled into the Middle East and US political arenas . Intelligence showed that Reagan's administration was the guilty party , trying to erase evidence being transferred by that plane , that would bring the administration down . Result - Britain organised revenge on the next Republican administration - and blew away the World Trade Centre . Gaddafi agreed to take the blame for Lockerbie as a cover up of Scotlands revenge , having been in on it all along . The Libyan agent seen shaking hands with Scottish police on his release from prison - wouldn't of happened if Libya had been guilty . No country but Britain could have organised the WTC hit .... it,s a very fucked up world , but you really will be if you mess with the Scots .
RAF Northolt
The mad guy of Libya created a domestic aeroplane crash and renamed a flight to blame the US.This is covered in aljazeera channel called flight 1103.
It wasn’t libya
It was Iran
Read the book physic warrior..
@PLUSBarnet on Twitter :D
Nonse britain
Why don't they ever mention There was a cia agent aboard Pan Am 103 CIA case officer Matthew Kevin Gannon.