Why should they? The globalist conspirators who killed them in order to justify endless war have not, and never will face justice. We don't deserve the comfort of wishing them peace, we haven't done anything to honor them! There are open slave markets and cannibalism occuring in Libya in 2021 OPEN YOUR EYES PEOPLE AMERICAN NATO/UN CONGLOMERATE IS A GENOCIDAL RACIST EMPIRE TO PUT THE NAZIS TO SHAME
I am a member of Lockerbie’s community and am currently living there. The effect of this disaster is still felt in the town. Countless people coming each year to pay respects to the memorial.
What about what your fkn country done to many ppl all over the world is OK for you!!!!? You blamed my beloved Libya for something that Iran did and your fake mi6 already knew
RIP Ms.Theo Cohen, I still remember you as if it was yesterday. You will always be in my heart and thoughts. Prayers for your family that is still living. You and your sweet soul will be missed.
My sister best friend was on this flight , a good friend of mine , Theo Colen , her dad was a book writer , lived right down the street from us , may she rest in peice , she was a beautiful soul
Clonmore My nan was putting her kids to sleep (not my aunt or uncle she’s my dads step mum) and she heard it and everything was shaking she said “I never flew with them to America again
@@tomasmillen I heard this one of the reasons why Pan Am went bankrupt because the victim's families sued the airline which was a multimillion dollar lawsuit.
I went passed the carnage left on my way up to Glasgow. I was a kid but I remember the engine at the side of the road. The lights controlling the traffic and the quietness of the car. I also remember the News flash saying a plane had come down. It was a big shock
The problem with Pan Am was that they didn’t want to invest in security as TWA did. I was working as a security in that time for TWA on Frankfurt airport and were trained by the Mossad, (Israel secret service) we received daily fax from FBI and from Scotland Yard warning us about a transistor radio or tape recorder with a bomb in it which would be smuggled in in a suitcase in Frankfurt , already 2 months before it happened and keeping receiving daily this same warning, we were so good trained that it was nearly impossible to smuggle anything on our flights but Pan Am hasn’t had any security for their flight which as we know by now was the weakest link and turned out to be fatal mistake. I been asking myself for years why those American Airlines didn’t cooperate in exchanging that vital security information’s their check in was only 10m apart, was the lack of security really for saving money or was there another reason ????
I was waiting to board my plane in London for the overnight flight from London to Washington, D.C. when we received news of the bombing. After the news made its way around the airport terminal, the place became very low key. Some were crying, some dropped to their knees to pray and some just stood or sat still. This lasted for about 15-20 minutes. I didn't know if what I was hearing was true or not, until I saw the news on a TV in the first class lounge. I actually had a hard time believing that a person here on this earth could do such a thing to some many innocent fellow human beings. It just makes you wonder the age old question, "WHY?"
We dont know if the Late Al-Mergrahi was involved...Secondly those days in 80s people were killing others like its a happy hour, we were still kind of primitive then, still are in some sense.
@Sam There was some bizarre and elaborate 'deal' made between the US and Libya, whereby the US would agree to the lifting of sanctions imposed on them in 1986, if Gadaffi accepted responsibility and paid compensation to the victims' families. Libya never actually stated explicitly that Megrahi was their operative, or that they ordered the attack - it was only very loosely implied in a letter, which was deliberately vague and ambiguous. An appalling set of circumstances, which allowed the real perpetrators (likely the PFLP-GC, acting for Iran in revenge for the shooting down of Iran Air 655) to go free without ever paying for their crime, and for an innocent man to be locked up and demonised.
@@tjfSIM.......... Immediately following the downing of Iran Air flight 655 by state-of-the-art US$3 billion Ticonderoga-class guided missile cruiser USS Vincennes on 3 July 1988, the justifiably incensed Iranians ‘contracted’ the Ahmed Jibril-led PFLP-GC [Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine - General Command] to carry out revenge attacks on 5 American airplanes. A payment of US$11 million was agreed with Jibril for the attacks*. [This action was code-named ‘Operation Intekam’ - which means ‘equal and just revenge’ in English]. The targets were to be on major American commercial airline operators with flights originating in Europe and to various destinations in the U.S. The Iranian's motivation was pure revenge and to fulfill the promise that the skies would "rain blood." [*there is expository evidence of this ’contract’: As part of their surveillance, the Israeli intelligence service MOSSAD, allegedly intercepted phone calls from Ali Akbar Mohtashamipur [Ayatollah Mohtashemi], the Iranian Interior Minister in Tehran, to the chargé d'affaires at the Iranian embassy in Beirut. During their conversations Mohtashemi-Pur instructed the embassy to hand over the funds to Ahmed Jibril - and in a later call, to pass on congratulations to the PFLP-GC on the success of blowing up PanAm103]. It is also a relatively well-known fact that during the mid-80's the CIA was conducting covert 'drugs-for-hostages' operations with the Iranians in a similar manner to the 'Iran-Contra affair'. Indeed, Pan Am was the 'preferred carrier' of these large quantities of heroin and cash, which was to be illegally brought into the U.S via New York and Detroit. [suitcases of drugs and cash were automatically cleared through customs and not subject to inspection on the specific orders of the CIA]. Coincidentally, seconded to the CIA and stationed in Lebanon to reconnoitre the whereabouts of American hostages, were a team of US Marines led by Major Charles 'Chuck' McKee. One of McKee's team, CIA officer Matthew Gannon, uncovered the covert drugs operation and informed McKee - who being a wholly honorable and moral man, instantly gathered together all the files documenting these illegal activities with the sole purpose of returning to the U.S to expose the CIA. McKee then booked flights from Beirut to the nearest European 'hub' of Frankfurt, for himself, Gannon, several other members of his team and a large container of files on the CIA's drug-smuggling operations. Chillingly, their connecting flight onwards from Frankfurt to New York - was PanAm103. It has since been strongly asserted that the CIA were well aware of the Iranians/PFLP-GC's plans to blow up PanAm103 [there were no less than 11 individual warnings of this - and even one to authorities in Helsinki specifically naming PanAm103, as well as the actual date and time of the flight*]. It has also been vehemently argued that the CIA deliberately ignored these warnings, and ensured that the case containing the bomb was loaded onto PanAm103 so that Major Charles McKee, his team and the highly incriminating documents never reached American soil. *Ahmed Jibril's right-hand man, Hafez Dalkamoni, set up the PFLP-GC cell in the Frankfurt and Neuss areas of West Germany - and then recruited ruthless terrorist, Abu Nidal and a very experienced Jordanian bomb-maker, Marwen Khreesat. Unbeknown to Jibril, Dalkamoni or Nidal - Khreesat was in fact a Jordanian intelligence service [GID] 'double' agent and was reporting on the cell's activities to his GID superiors. The GID shared their intelligence with the German internal security service [BfV] who took the immediate decision to raid the 14 apartments occupied by PFLP-GC cell members. Although the BfV arrested 17 men and seized 4 devices, PFLP-GC leader Jibril escaped capture. Furthermore, Khreesat later stated that a fifth device had been taken away by Hafez Dalkamoni before the raid and consequently, was never recovered. It is now patently obvious that this was the bomb that brought down PanAm103. Given this overwhelming and totally corroborated evidence, why did the American government, assorted U.S security and intelligence agencies - not to mention the CIA - suddenly and suspiciously divert the focus of their investigation into the bombing of PanAm103 away from the Iranian-backed PFLP-GC - and shifted it onto Gaddafi and the Libyans? There are a two extremely compelling reasons for this: 1. The Americans didn't want to 'disrupt' its covert activities with the Iranians or jeopardise its efforts to free American hostages. They also didn't want to get embroiled in a military conflict with a very powerful middle-eastern opponent. [not least because it would inevitably lead to war between Iran and its allies with America's most favoured nation - Israel]. 2. Gaddafi [and Libya] were a MUCH easier 'target'. Gaddafi was despised by many and an overbearing opportunist. Taking on Gaddafi was a far more 'appealing' alternative. Besides, it would be too good an opportunity to miss to rid the world of a recognised terrorist. [The Americans also wanted revenge against Gaddafi and Libya for various bombings of Americans and American bases etc] So it was that the FBI [with the help of the CIA and British / Scottish investigators] 'manufactured' a case against two relatively anonymous Libyans - Abdelbaset al-Megrahi and Lamin Khalifa Fhimah. Evidence was tampered with, mysteriously 'introduced' [or deliberately misappropriated and lost] yet somehow this was the fantastical story the world was fed. Although the case against Fhimah soon disintegrated - the outcome was even more preposterous: that the single biggest terrorist act ever carried out on British soil was perpetrated by a sole bomber. That one man [and a pretty non-descript man at that] could have built a bomb and somehow single-handedly smuggled it onto an airplane in Malta and that evaded detection by THREE separate airport security systems [Malta, Frankfurt and Heathrow]. That this same man was such an incredible bomb-maker that he could create a device that would have detonated at exactly the right time on an aircraft travelling at the busiest time of the year, through the most unpredictable weather conditions - except for the fact that it was delayed for approx 30 minutes throughout its entire journey is of extraordinarily brilliant judgment. Never in the history of mankind could this feat ever be repeated. That's because it simply didn't happen. Like Lee Harvey Oswald and the assassination of JFK - yet another example of the 'dark forces' at work in America. As a final footnote - the son of Libya’s ex-dictator General Muammar Gaddafi, Saif al-Islam [together with a number of high-ranking Libyan politicians] have categorically stated that the ONLY reason that Libya admitted that it carried out the bombing of PanAm103 was that the country was on the verge of bankruptcy due to the sanctions applied against it by the international community. He openly revealed in front of TV cameras that paying compensation of US$2.7 billion to the victim's families was miniscule compared with the cost to the country and Libyans themselves if the sanctions continued. He did however make it blatantly clear that Libya DID NOT accept responsibility for the bombing. And that the real reason for the lengthy delay in settling the matter was purely due to the greed of the American families of the victims. [Saif al-Islam strongly emphasised that he and his ministers were desperate to come to an agreement - but that every time that they made an offer to the American families, they would reject it and demand more money!]
why should we show compasion to a psycopath who showed no compasion for all the innocent lives that were on board of that aircraft. I am tired of criminals doings as they please and then playing the victim and getting away with it. It is not fair...
I think this was the response to a trigger happy USN Captain shooting down an Iranian passenger plane by Iranian hired help. A lot of people died in both incidents and the Captain got a medal even though he was warned and knew that it was a civilian plane on its regular route.
Because he's being punished for doing something wrong. If we punished him with the same wrongdoing that he's being punished for, we're just as bad. He was still severely punished for what he did, and the only reason he was being released was because he had terminal cancer, so he was going to die soon afterwards anyway.
Although N739PA is a historic case it’s still the number one case that still sits on my desk to this day. Love, prayers and thoughts to EVERYONE affected by this tragedy.
My sister best friend was on this flight , a good friend of mine , Theo Colen, her dad was a book writer , lived right down the street from us , may she rest in peice , she was a beautiful soul
For the people who are wondering "well if Megrahi didn't do it, who did?" you may find this interesting (believe it was touched on in the video): Abu Talb - "On 21 December 1989, Abu Talb and three other men were convicted by a court in Uppsala for a series of bombings in Copenhagen and Amsterdam in 1985. In May 1989, Abu Talb was arrested in connection with the bombing of Pan Am Flight 103 on 21 December 1988. He came under suspicion after Swedish investigators established that he had travelled to Malta in October 1988, two months before the bombing. British investigators earlier found that the bomb was hidden in a radio-cassette recorder, which was placed in a suitcase and wrapped in clothing bought in Malta. In Abu Talb's apartment in Uppsala, the police also found a 1988 calendar with the date "21 December" circled (Date of the bombing). In addition, Abu Talb's wife was recorded in a wiretapped telephone call warning another unidentified Palestinian to "get rid of the clothes immediately." Abu Talb's involvement in the bombing was also alleged in a 2002 report commissioned by lawyers for Abdelbaset al-Megrahi, the man convicted of the bombing.[6] Abu Talb denied he was involved in the bombing and said his trip to Malta was for "business"."
Gaddafi never claimed responsibility, UN court said Gaddafi was responsible. He accepted the verdict and paid the families. On a bbc interview before he was killed, he said he had nothing to do with this bombing. Its same as blaming iraq for 911 when all the hijackers were from Saudi Arabia.
Canada had its Air India Flight 182 "that was blown up by a bomb while in Irish airspace at an altitude of 31,000 feet" On 23 June 1985. The mechanism involved is very much similar to the Toshiba cassette recorder. " a unit that has a sleep timer, shut off " clock modules, or radio clock modules, can all be powered by low DC voltage and low milliwatt current requirements, " very low power " a small battery is all that is needed for 2 or 3 day operations
I’m from Scotland. I was 11 when PanAm 103 crashed. I’m very proud that our government released the “bomber” on compassionate grounds - we knew that he wasn’t the true evil behind this awful tragedy. The Americans knew/know far more than they let on about the bombing and I think it unfair for people to criticise the fact a man went back to his country to die when he was used as a scapegoat.
@@ianjohnson7646Firstly that PT-35B could not have come from an MST-13 that was sold to Libya. PT-35B was "tinned" in pure lead the company who manufactured the boards for MEBO used a tin/lead mix and physically couldn't tin in 100% lead so i'm guessing they know who planted this piece. The know they paid Tony and Paul Gauci to secure a conviction even after Tony's statement changed no fewer than 17 times, they know that after he identified Abu Talb they continued to push him for a different identification and showed him a set up picture where Mr Megrahi's picture stood out, they know when he didn't identify him they told him to "look again" they know it was all but Impossible for a bag to have been put on KM180 at Luqa due to the security measures in place and that the manifest showed 53 pieces of luggage which tallied with the head loaders physical count. I could go on and on and on about what the authorities knew about this flight. One day Mr Megrahi's name will be cleared no doubt about that.
This makes me so sad. I was 22 at the time or brokey heart the kids the students the innocents may they are resting on heaven o had a near death experience I k ow there is an after life so that reassures me as to where aml these innocent people are now in a paradise
@@lunabear6110 dear iam. Not. A. Dude Iam à person you can agree to disagree I went in corridor of heaven but I know it was no coming back iam not high or making it all out it is what I saw yes I had a slice of magic mushroom cake that was deadly and I rushed myself to cidar Sinai in Los Angeles you were not even born because in my days when you were a gentleman you would not dare to call a woman dude. I had two car crashes one cc od and I still can remember shopping with my parents little in portofino Italy in 1972
Natalie, the fact is only those who have placed their trust in Jesus Christ paying for their sins, repenting and accepting Him as Lord and Savior are assured of Heaven. Please Natalie (and anyone else reading this) if you haven't accepted Jesus Christ as Savior do so now. None of us know how much time we have left on this Earth. Read the books of John and Romans in the Holy Bible for guidance.
Most people in Scotland KNOW that Al Megrahi didn't do it. It is plainly obvious but there are too many people out there who want vengeance for what happened, and will stop at nothing, even framing someone, to get it. Shame on them! Seek the truth, not lies.
How can they release this guy on "Compassionate Grounds"? Where was the compassion for all the victims of flight 103? He showed no compassion and he should receive no compassion.
+Bryan Is NOT On Fire The release from prison on compassionate grounds was part of a deal for him to drop his appeal - so that the truth would not be revealed - the truth that he was innocent. The trial and the verdict were a travesty of justice according to most observers. The bomb suitcase was noticed by a Heathrow baggage handler before the feeder flight from Frankfurt had arrived - the court ignored his evidence because it would destroy the whole prosecution case. The prosecution claimed that the bomb travelled unaccompanied on three separate flights - from Malta to Frankfurt - from Frankfurt to London - and onto Pan Am 103. What stupidity for a terrorist to take such a chance of two intervening flights - ludicrous - terrorists are not that daft.
Megrahi wasn't responsible for Lockerbie, and his conviction was based on very questionable evidence. If the Scottish government really believed him to be responsible, they would never have let him go free on any grounds. Whoever was responsible has never been held to justice.
Because the Scottish authorities felt a bit guilty about the poor trial ! .You will probably never know what really did happen ,there was probably more than one person involved anyway
@@crunchies4me prisons have to guarantee human rights to people they incarcerate. They need to provide medical care. He was sentenced to life, he wasn't sentenced to suffer to death of prostate cancer alone in a cell. And he was innocent, shouldn't have been imprisoned at all.
@@crunchies4me he was a scapegoat, not a maniac. Personally denied involvement until the day he died. Why did his family and friends give him so much benefit of the doubt? Why would he plead guilty knowing he would die imprisoned either way? Why plead guilty officially and then insist innocence to anyone willing to listen? Why didn't they entertain his appeals at some point before he was literally about to die? If he was such a mass murderer, why didn't *the courts* appeal to have him extradited to America where he would've faced harsher consequences? Because in a real, fair trial he'd have been exonerated for lack of evidence.
@@crunchies4me .......What's even more disgusting is that idiots like you believe your government's outrageous lies. [presumably and judging by your dreadful mangling of the English language, you're American?]
When they say die in prison , it should mean just that. They only give these sentences for ppl who have killed. So how do you have compassion for a killer. Especially a mass murderer.
If everyone is saying he didn't do it, who did? Respect to the families still fighting to clear his name. And the Scottish authorities. The fact is, Scotland has a law to allow for release in these circumstances, it is their country and their decision. I would be more mad at the way that case got put on a plane and got thru at Heathrow - if the British are so bothered by his release we should be outraged by them for letting that case get on an aircraft at Heathrow. More importantly RIP to the victims. God bless. Also al-megrahi had no life when he returned home. He didn't get off scot free. That may or may not be karma.
So they are telling me that this was not detected through security screening of suitcases this is very suspicious in my eyes. How do we know this suitcase was not planted on the plane. Rest in peace to the lives lost
This was before 9/11, airline security was not nearly as strong as it is now. Believe it not not, before that day it was very easy for rights to slip through
@@CptQuakers. It is good. Period. The prosecution has the financial apparatus of the State backing it, and has every opportunity to refute, but doesn't because it is flawed and knows it is a can of worms. Coaching witnesses !!!!
As in the Air India disaster, and this one, a person, or persons have to be identified with the skill to make a nondescript item such as " a general use radio cassette player into a precision triggering device . " wiring the alarm , or radio shut off " as a trigger. I first wrote of this possibility of timer clock modules, in 1975. " this information was shared with the RCMP Bomb squad "
Very speculative. For example, they state that the shop owner in Malta had told them he went on all expenses trips to Scotland....but no evidence is provided of that.
I’m Scottish and anyone criticising our law is stupid the plane was supposed to explode over the ocean, The whole case landed in Scottish hands because is crashed in Scotland not because of some idiotic cover up
We 'the west' let him go because we are compassionate as people and I personally think it shows alot of the moral values we navigate by in ours lives and that terrorism will never be enough to break us, love you all my UK family
i saw the stories the following day australian time.the day of my 11th birthday(20-12-1988).how awful for all these people who died.although united replaced panam two years earlier on the australia to usa services it was too close to home for a lot of us.we kids were even asking our parents for our upcoming america trip three weeks later who we would be flying with,we found that out the day of collecting the travel documents(6-1-89)it was continental.
@@franzchong5889this happened the day after I turned one.. (20/12/1987).. and even though I was so young and obviously didn’t know what was happening.. learning of it now still has a huge impact
Al Jazeera completely ignored that the Swiss manufacturer of the timing device, Mebo, testified that they manufactured 40 such devices and the customer was the Libyan government.
The night before Lockerbie tragedy a break-in at Heathrow’s terminal 3 was reported to the police. Break-in confirmed in the following publications: The Guardian, 1 Feb 2002 The Telegraph, 1 Feb 2002 The BBC News, 31 Jan 2002 The Herald Scotland, 16 Oct 2001 The Daily Mail Online, Sep 12 2011 The Independent, Sep 11, 2001 London Evening Standard, 13 Feb 2002 The Socialist Worker, 25 Aug 2009 Could this be when a bomb was placed into the luggage for Pan Am Flight 103?
Was it Libya?.i dont think so,try Iran,to the people who have never been to the cemetery,their was an American senator on board the flight and also senior military people on board as some plaques state that they died in the line of there duty.what was the senator all about and why did military people die in the line of duty?
A don't agree with the government, To let him out ,!!! He was charged with a terrorism attack from his country. So they shld hve nvr let him out . 👍🏴💯%.
I was a young copper and spent weeks on the fells after the crash. Even then there were rumours amongst the British police that US Agents, dressed as TWA Engineers in blue overalls, were altering evidence.
My father did likewise, they got the call that night for all of Strathclyde Police at the time to be posted immediately to Lockerbie. They didn’t have the staff to deal with such a huge incident. It affected everyone so much that many officers retired early on health grounds.
They're probably quite upset that the real culprit was never named let alone brought to justice. They deserve closure, this documentary is proof tuat they're not allowed to obtain closure. Don't shoot the messenger.
We have all been led to believe that any modern democracy must keep separate its criminal justice system from any kind of political influence. Cases like the Birmingham Six, the Guildford Four and the McGuire Seven show that shamefully, this principle has been ignored in the UK before. We need full transparency in this case. It's in the national interest.
The sick and evil individual who carried the bomb. To be placed on PA 103 at Frankfurt was also, I believe the same individual who presented a bomb in a suitcase at Vancouver airport to New Delhi on AIR INDIA 182 23/06/1985, there's no doubt in my mind, I wonder how that individual sleeps at night. I wouldn't call them human.
+Dave Shields The same bomber for Air India 182 and Pan Am 103 - what evidence is there for that? The Pan Am bomb was introduced at Heathrow before the feeder flight from Frankfurt had arrived.
Dave Shields If you wish to bring down a flight leaving from Montreal with a bomb it makes sense to put the bomb on the aircraft in Montreal. If you wish to do something similar three years later to a plane leaving from London it does not make sense to put the bomb on a different plane in Frankfurt. Well perhaps in your belief system it does make sense - it might even make sense to put the bomb on a plane in Malta and have it transferred once at Frankfurt and again in London. You create a complex scenario of a terrorist bomb being subject to chance handling to arrive at its intended destination. Not the actions of a committed terrorist - leaving things to fortune in the hope that it will all work - and your argument about similarity - which two flights did the Air India bomb travel on before being placed on its intended plane? You make things up - perhaps the same person planted the bomb on the Russian Sharm el Sheikh flight recently but I doubt it. Of course it might just as easily have been different people using the same method - difficult to accept I know but perfectly possible. The baggage hall at LHR was broken into the night before - *_Heathrow security guard Ray Manly, who discovered that the padlock had been cut on security door CP2 leading to the Pan Am baggage area, told the Lockerbie appeal court at Camp Zeist in 2002_* *_"I believe it would be possible for an unauthorised person to obtain tags for a particular Pan Am flight and then, having broken the CP2 lock, to have introduced a tagged bag into the baggage build up area."_* The luggage container that had the bomb in it had already been pre-loaded with suitcases *before* the Frankfurt flight arrived - Baggage Hander John Bedford gave statements about a brown/maroon Samsonite case being in the container - and seeing it in just the right place to cause the damage that occurred. Perhaps it was Bedford who planted the bomb? and in Canada too... You would do well to set aside your Canada / Frankfurt theory for a while and look into what happened in the baggage hall at Heathrow and John Bedford's statements.
Why can't you just accept a different point without insulting the person expressing the opinion ? Wny can't you show a bit of class without coming across as a troll, who knows why terrorists do the things they do, perhaps there wasn't a suitable flight from montreal that day or incase of Lockerbie as well, what if this happened, what if that happened, oh yeah another similarity flight pan am 103 was 20 minutes late in taking off, had it taken off at the correct time the plane would have disingtated over the atlantic, which was the plan, both bombs that were used were on a timer using dynamite, use your sense man, ive read and watched documentary about thease two disasters and the similarities are glaring, how can you not see it. ?
Dave Shields I do not accept a different point of view - your point of view - because you provide no robust or plausible argument to support it. It amounts to this - _both aircraft were brought down by a bomb so it must have been the same person responsible_ You offer no evidence for this - just your belief. A troll sets out to deliberately cause an emotional response - disagreeing is not being a troll. One aircraft was brought down by Sikh militants - Inderjit Singh Reyat, a Canadian national, remains the only person convicted of involvement in the bombing. Singh pleaded guilty in 2003 to manslaughter. He was sentenced to 15 years in prison for building the bombs that exploded aboard Flight 182 and at Narita. My sense tells me that even though there are similarities - timer operated bomb - that it's unlikely for the bomb maker to be the same person - both events revenge based - one by Sikhs over military attacks on the Golden Temple - the other for the downing of Iran Air 655 by an American ship. As for your *_who knows why terrorists do the things they do_* it's usually pretty obvious with just the minimum of thought - as an act of revenge or for political reasons to focus minds and change attitudes. You do not make a compelling argument.
+Richard Buxton M singh was a fake name, i won't be replying to any further comnents by you, you offer nothing new and i was clearing referring to the human garbage that put the bomb on the plane NOT the bomb maker for air india 182.
The investigation of this bombing raised questions about investigative procedures of air crash and bombings and how reliable are they ?It also does not do justice for the families and questions the motives of governments and how they can turn unfortunate circumstances for their own gain .sad to see.
An Iranian friend and I (Scottish) had a flight from JFK to EDI and immigration delayed him and he missed the flight. They didn't take his baggage off.
my British friend, I respectfully disagree: the two supposed Libyan culprits are charged with having put the bomb in the Malta Airlines to Germany flight... HOW this bomb ended up on that Pan Am flight without a passenger is still a very debated mystery that no one, not even the airport authorities was able to explain.@@cplcabs
I was at the Pan Am Terminal at JFK the next day seeing some friends off who were flying to Sweden. That terminal was like a tomb. Me and my father spoke to a customs agent who was working on the day that Pan Am flight 103 was bombed. I looked in her eyes and those eyes were very haunted. Such a horrible tragedy and Scotland set that one guy free due to compassionate grounds. What did he do in order to deserve compassion? Nothing!!
Lybia never owned up to responsibility and had sanctions against them,after a long time they paid compensation only to trade again as it was costing them more
Small terrorist cells " a few people " can tie up a great deal of public safety time, to monitor potential threats. From my experience, i have heard accurate discovery of the explosive locations, the accurate time of events and potential suspects. Which brings us to cause and effect, by groups or nations, that feel they are shamed or abused by overlords. Perhaps if there was less gunboat diplomacy, calmer heads and better outcomes would prevail. "Some one pissed of somebody"
Speaking from experience on other events not related to this case but to other incidents that are parallel to this case, the event such as this creates an information overload. An event that is so traumatic such as this that has never happened before, with the volume of evidence versus manpower and the existing laws of 3 countries where the Policies, Procedures and Practices are not in place that unifies these 3 or more jurisdictions, you can argue all day long that the rules were not followed, you have to take into account that the system was massively overloaded, with law enforcement, intelligent s agencies and investigative processes based on manpower and resources to track all nuances with a system not in place to process all the evidence because it had not been engineered yet to handle an event like this bombing, you will always have none conformity of the Policies, Procedures and Practices as there will always be the human factor, which is based on training on how to proceed in these kind of events. If a system has not been established with an effective top down methodology, in my view can only be handled by institutions that are constantly geared to dynamically practice with creation of documentations that come close to each event to execute more effectively evidence gathering, effective documentation that immediately processes the information electronically to a central database. I already have an idea on how to establish this with the current existing technologies to integrate with current investigative techniques with relevant forensic applications.
My uncle was one of the first cops there and told how many children were on the plane and told to find them first! Two being found on a house roof still in seatbelts decapitated , prisoners in Greenock loved megrahi Lybia paid for sky tc all channels to the whole prison so he could watch al jazera
clare bacchiochi and clayton lee flick,put flowers on their grave aged 14yrs olds,,still remember all the pain i saw in that grave yard that day...R.I.P....xXx
I think the authorities in Scotland did believe that he was innocent, if not why release him on compassionate grounds? I guess we will never know the truth.
Al Jazeera did the right thing by talking about alternative theories of the tragedy's cause. This points to high journalistic standards, not conspiracy theories or apologies or sympathy for terrorists at all.
Suhail Shafi Islam is a cancer, Al Jazeera is its messenger. This is a propaganda, attempting to lay blame of the bombing at others other than Islamic Zealots. I agree Islam needs to be irradiated from the planet. Religion of Peace? BS!
@arthomnia4761, I just wanted to write much respect to you, and all the residents of Lockerbie Scotland, as well as all the victims on Pan Am Flight 103, a senseless tragedy, I am thinking about a trip to Scotland, and would love to visit Lockerbie, as far as the landscape, Is there anything to recognize in relation to the crash? I would assume that after 35 years no one would be able to tell now what took place on 12/21/88, thank you and may god be with you.
I've always understood it was the Iranians, in revenge for the shooting down of Iran Air 655, a passenger flight from Tehran to Dubai, which was shot down in July 1988, killing all 290 people aboard, who were responsible for the Lockerbie bomb. It was brought down by a guided missile fired by the USS Vincennes. The Americans for a long time denied responsibility for the shooting down, and in fact awarded the captain of the Vincennes a medal. It was only in 1996 that the US government finally admitted they had deliberately fired the missile and paid compensation to the families of the victims (which included 66 children). Despite the ICA and various other international organisations finding the Americans guilty of many mistakes in their handling of the situation they have still refused to apologise for the destruction of the airliner. It was, or course, wrong for the Iranians to take revenge. But the downing of the Iran Air flight 655 has never been apologised for by the US government. Incidentally now all Libyan government records have been made publicly available in Tripoli there is no evidence at all that Gadafi or his agents were responsible for Lockerbie, he was a convenient scapegoat at the time, however.
They knew he was innocent and didn't want to go through an appeal trial and bring up false evidence that got him convicted. They knew it was the CIA and there's even Scottish police testimony saying it was the CIA. If he actually did it do you really think they would've released him? Use some common sense
@@goodgood9955 Wrong. 1988 Iran Air Airbus A300 plane shot down by America on purpose. How do you accidently shoot a missile at a passenger plane in someone's own country? Shot down over Iran.
@Are you stupid or pretending to be? No warning shot and plane shot down within 12 miles of Iranian territory which US warship entered illegally. If they can't f*** tell the difference between an airbus A300 and an F14 (American plane also) then they are lying. US paid $61 million to Iran and no apology but Libya paid $1.8 billion for Pan Am. Vietnam war and Gulf of Tonkin was also a lie. President LBJ lied and said US ships attacked by Vietnamese Gunships. Oh really. Huge lie. Have you ever heard the truth? Building 7 and Twin Towers were blown up also for two wars. Enron and Worldcom evidence all destroyed. What hit Building 7? Reported as collapsed one hour before it did. Weapons of Mass destruction never found nor Osama's body. All American lies for wars.
@ The airliner was transmitting the correct transponder "squawk" code typical of a civilian aircraft and maintained radio contact in English with appropriate air traffic control facilities. Even if the plane had truly been an Iranian F-14, Iran argued that the U.S. would not have had the right to shoot it down, as it was flying within Iranian airspace and did not follow a path that could be considered an attack profile, nor did it illuminate Vincennes with radar. It was not a threat in any way.
I was on this air plane on that same day. My wife and I flew from New York to London. We exited the plane just hours before it re boarded for its return to NYC.
You where lucky. A wee lad from Scotland lost his mother and father in this terrible situation. My cousin offered to take him in. I think he ended up with his Granny and Grandmother.
Released and welcomed home by hundreds of people. An uncompassionate man doesn't deserve to be sent home. Looks as if the whole investigation was completely messed up.
they said or i heard that the Pan am 103 bombing was some kind of retaliation for americans shooting down iran air airbus when they mistaken it for spy plane
@4 REAL It`s a big lie! Redirect of the commercial aircraft due to weather concerns is unprecedented in the history of Heathrow and has not happened so far.
It's a very common route for trans Atlantic flights from England dependant on wind and weather conditions. Up over north of England, then Scotland and into the North Atlantic. There could well be a conspiracy regarding Lockerbie but the route is not one.
Regarding the introduction sentence, "Abdel Baset al-Megrahi eventually dies of the prostate cancer that so controversially won him his freedom from a Scottish prison", his death won him nothing. If he was guilty, he would have had to face God, which would be a greater pain of guilt incomprehensible in our earthly understanding. I am not saying where his soul went, but to face guilt is not fathomable in our earthly understanding.
Such a shame all those people perished,RIP,but I really wish that CCTV was installed then,its baffling,but to think that it could be the real culprit is alive.
So hang on the only evidence against him to start with was that the shop owner said he was the one in his shop buying clothes and now can I have the reward money please. And no one thought this was suspicious and odd at the time and his description didn't fit the one he had given at the beginning. There is a good reason why courts don't place much evidence on eye witnesses so why did they in this case. The Scottish government released him on supposed to be compassionate grounds I think they did it because they had reason to think by then that he wasn't in fact guilty and it was easier that way than declaring a miscarriage of justice and a lot quicker too the Scottish government were brave to release him going against what the Americans and the British wanted I take my hat off to them
RIP to those who died. My condolences to the families of the deceased. The murderer only got 27 years? He should have life in jail for each of those whose lives he took.
Since the earth is nearly spherical it is actually a shorter distance to fly north along a "great circle", versus flying what appears to be a straight line from London to NYC on a flat map. But even then Lockerbie is farther north than the great circle between LHR and JFK airports, so that extra divergence to the north was probably to avoid bad weather or the jet stream, and/or to take advantage of favorable winds.
Keeping a man (who has not been proven guilty) in prison, when his death was imminent, wasn't going to undo their death or make life easier/worse for the family members. Everyone clings on to someone to blame, even if it's not proven. As someone from Scotland, I am immensely PROUD of the way our tiny, insignificant Scottish Government told corrupt British and American governments to GTF.
Craig Ian Stephens 100% agree. And as an insignificant wee Scottish quine I'd rather the bloke had died in agony in a box without pain relief if he was guilty. I don't know enough about this to say any more.
Seems to me that a lot of the comments here are from people who didn't watch the film. Watch the film. Abdelbaset Ali Al Megrahi did NOT do it. It was Iran in revenge for the USS Vincennes shooting down an Iranian passenger flight.
@@markcoupe5748 I truly feel like Gaddafi had something to do with the downing of the plane and I also believe the Iranians had their dirty hands in this.
Bullfuckingshit at 37:46 1st thing you should notice is that this "documentary" purposely makes the details of Megrahi's photograph very difficult to see during the comparison. I have seen the same picture and it is available on the internet in excellent quality. The creators of this TV Show went out of their way to make the photo and sketch bear 0 resemblance to one another. So far as the Police Sketch goes, Abdelbaset al-Megrahi could easily have been the man Gauci described. Take a look at the multiple Police Sketches of Ted Bundy for example. Hardly an uncanny resemblance, and yet they all still capture the essence of Bundy's features...the same way the Sketch from Gauci's recollection resembles Megrahi. I agree that the case against Megrahi was held together by a shoestring, but this documentary is definitely going to extreme and fraudulent lengths to exonerate him, further perverting justice.
May the victims of Pan Am flight 103 Rest In Peace.
Also the residents of Lockerbie who died on that night.
I don't think they can rest in peace while the wrong were convicted because that means the ones who did it are still free
Why should they? The globalist conspirators who killed them in order to justify endless war have not, and never will face justice. We don't deserve the comfort of wishing them peace, we haven't done anything to honor them! There are open slave markets and cannibalism occuring in Libya in 2021 OPEN YOUR EYES PEOPLE AMERICAN NATO/UN CONGLOMERATE IS A GENOCIDAL RACIST EMPIRE TO PUT THE NAZIS TO SHAME
May pan am also rest in peace
A terrible way to die.
I am a member of Lockerbie’s community and am currently living there. The effect of this disaster is still felt in the town. Countless people coming each year to pay respects to the memorial.
What about what your fkn country done to many ppl all over the world is OK for you!!!!? You blamed my beloved Libya for something that Iran did and your fake mi6 already knew
I a very sorry
It’s something they will never forget I’m sure, I really feel for the town. What a terrible terrible event.
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I visited Lockerbie memorial just yesterday, I felt very emotional and touched. RIP.
RIP Ms.Theo Cohen, I still remember you as if it was yesterday. You will always be in my heart and thoughts. Prayers for your family that is still living. You and your sweet soul will be missed.
Care to share a memory of her with us?
My sister best friend was on this flight , a good friend of mine , Theo Colen , her dad was a book writer , lived right down the street from us , may she rest in peice , she was a beautiful soul
@@donhowell9228 So sorry for your loss. 💙💙💙
The people of Lockerbie are deserving of serious credit for their respect and dignity in the face of mass murder.
Clonmore My nan was putting her kids to sleep (not my aunt or uncle she’s my dads step mum) and she heard it and everything was shaking she said “I never flew with them to America again
@@tomasmillen I heard this one of the reasons why Pan Am went bankrupt because the victim's families sued the airline which was a multimillion dollar lawsuit.
@tan staafl so basically Gaddafi was responsible for this attack on innocent british and american lives.🤔
Two lads who's parents were killed in there house in Lockerbie got 7million compensation and sadly both turned to drugs an sadly passed away to
@@emilio2647 PanAm's reputation took a massive blow from lockerbie, even though it wasnt their fault. This ultimately led to their eventual failure.
The fact that they found those pieces of the tape player’s electronics that are smaller than a fingernail over a debris field of 15 square miles....
More holes than a sieve
I went passed the carnage left on my way up to Glasgow. I was a kid but I remember the engine at the side of the road. The lights controlling the traffic and the quietness of the car. I also remember the News flash saying a plane had come down. It was a big shock
The problem with Pan Am was that they didn’t want to invest in security as TWA did. I was working as a security in that time for TWA on Frankfurt airport and were trained by the Mossad, (Israel secret service) we received daily fax from FBI and from Scotland Yard warning us about a transistor radio or tape recorder with a bomb in it which would be smuggled in in a suitcase in Frankfurt , already 2 months before it happened and keeping receiving daily this same warning, we were so good trained that it was nearly impossible to smuggle anything on our flights but Pan Am hasn’t had any security for their flight which as we know by now was the weakest link and turned out to be fatal mistake. I been asking myself for years why those American Airlines didn’t cooperate in exchanging that vital security information’s their check in was only 10m apart, was the lack of security really for saving money or was there another reason ????
I was waiting to board my plane in London for the overnight flight from London to Washington, D.C. when we received news of the bombing. After the news made its way around the airport terminal, the place became very low key. Some were crying, some dropped to their knees to pray and some just stood or sat still. This lasted for about 15-20 minutes. I didn't know if what I was hearing was true or not, until I saw the news on a TV in the first class lounge. I actually had a hard time believing that a person here on this earth could do such a thing to some many innocent fellow human beings. It just makes you wonder the age old question, "WHY?"
We dont know if the Late Al-Mergrahi was involved...Secondly those days in 80s people were killing others like its a happy hour, we were still kind of primitive then, still are in some sense.
@Sam There was some bizarre and elaborate 'deal' made between the US and Libya, whereby the US would agree to the lifting of sanctions imposed on them in 1986, if Gadaffi accepted responsibility and paid compensation to the victims' families. Libya never actually stated explicitly that Megrahi was their operative, or that they ordered the attack - it was only very loosely implied in a letter, which was deliberately vague and ambiguous. An appalling set of circumstances, which allowed the real perpetrators (likely the PFLP-GC, acting for Iran in revenge for the shooting down of Iran Air 655) to go free without ever paying for their crime, and for an innocent man to be locked up and demonised.
@Sam Yes. I am referring to US trade sanctions, imposed in 1986.
@Sam And why would they have been so compelled by UN sanctions, which had ceased to apply 2 years before the conviction?
@@tjfSIM.......... Immediately following the downing of Iran Air flight 655 by state-of-the-art US$3 billion Ticonderoga-class guided missile cruiser USS Vincennes on 3 July 1988, the justifiably incensed Iranians ‘contracted’ the Ahmed Jibril-led PFLP-GC [Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine - General Command] to carry out revenge attacks on 5 American airplanes.
A payment of US$11 million was agreed with Jibril for the attacks*. [This action was code-named ‘Operation Intekam’ - which means ‘equal and just revenge’ in English]. The targets were to be on major American commercial airline operators with flights originating in Europe and to various destinations in the U.S. The Iranian's motivation was pure revenge and to fulfill the promise that the skies would "rain blood."
[*there is expository evidence of this ’contract’: As part of their surveillance, the Israeli intelligence service MOSSAD, allegedly intercepted phone calls from Ali Akbar Mohtashamipur [Ayatollah Mohtashemi], the Iranian Interior Minister in Tehran, to the chargé d'affaires at the Iranian embassy in Beirut. During their conversations Mohtashemi-Pur instructed the embassy to hand over the funds to Ahmed Jibril - and in a later call, to pass on congratulations to the PFLP-GC on the success of blowing up PanAm103].
It is also a relatively well-known fact that during the mid-80's the CIA was conducting covert 'drugs-for-hostages' operations with the Iranians in a similar manner to the 'Iran-Contra affair'. Indeed, Pan Am was the 'preferred carrier' of these large quantities of heroin and cash, which was to be illegally brought into the U.S via New York and Detroit. [suitcases of drugs and cash were automatically cleared through customs and not subject to inspection on the specific orders of the CIA].
Coincidentally, seconded to the CIA and stationed in Lebanon to reconnoitre the whereabouts of American hostages, were a team of US Marines led by Major Charles 'Chuck' McKee. One of McKee's team, CIA officer Matthew Gannon, uncovered the covert drugs operation and informed McKee - who being a wholly honorable and moral man, instantly gathered together all the files documenting these illegal activities with the sole purpose of returning to the U.S to expose the CIA.
McKee then booked flights from Beirut to the nearest European 'hub' of Frankfurt, for himself, Gannon, several other members of his team and a large container of files on the CIA's drug-smuggling operations. Chillingly, their connecting flight onwards from Frankfurt to New York - was PanAm103.
It has since been strongly asserted that the CIA were well aware of the Iranians/PFLP-GC's plans to blow up PanAm103 [there were no less than 11 individual warnings of this - and even one to authorities in Helsinki specifically naming PanAm103, as well as the actual date and time of the flight*]. It has also been vehemently argued that the CIA deliberately ignored these warnings, and ensured that the case containing the bomb was loaded onto PanAm103 so that Major Charles McKee, his team and the highly incriminating documents never reached American soil.
*Ahmed Jibril's right-hand man, Hafez Dalkamoni, set up the PFLP-GC cell in the Frankfurt and Neuss areas of West Germany - and then recruited ruthless terrorist, Abu Nidal and a very experienced Jordanian bomb-maker, Marwen Khreesat. Unbeknown to Jibril, Dalkamoni or Nidal - Khreesat was in fact a Jordanian intelligence service [GID] 'double' agent and was reporting on the cell's activities to his GID superiors.
The GID shared their intelligence with the German internal security service [BfV] who took the immediate decision to raid the 14 apartments occupied by PFLP-GC cell members. Although the BfV arrested 17 men and seized 4 devices, PFLP-GC leader Jibril escaped capture.
Furthermore, Khreesat later stated that a fifth device had been taken away by Hafez Dalkamoni before the raid and consequently, was never recovered. It is now patently obvious that this was the bomb that brought down PanAm103.
Given this overwhelming and totally corroborated evidence, why did the American government, assorted U.S security and intelligence agencies - not to mention the CIA - suddenly and suspiciously divert the focus of their investigation into the bombing of PanAm103 away from the Iranian-backed PFLP-GC - and shifted it onto Gaddafi and the Libyans?
There are a two extremely compelling reasons for this:
1. The Americans didn't want to 'disrupt' its covert activities with the Iranians or jeopardise its efforts to free American hostages. They also didn't want to get embroiled in a military conflict with a very powerful middle-eastern opponent. [not least because it would inevitably lead to war between Iran and its allies with America's most favoured nation - Israel].
2. Gaddafi [and Libya] were a MUCH easier 'target'. Gaddafi was despised by many and an overbearing opportunist. Taking on Gaddafi was a far more 'appealing' alternative. Besides, it would be too good an opportunity to miss to rid the world of a recognised terrorist. [The Americans also wanted revenge against Gaddafi and Libya for various bombings of Americans and American bases etc]
So it was that the FBI [with the help of the CIA and British / Scottish investigators] 'manufactured' a case against two relatively anonymous Libyans - Abdelbaset al-Megrahi and Lamin Khalifa Fhimah. Evidence was tampered with, mysteriously 'introduced' [or deliberately misappropriated and lost] yet somehow this was the fantastical story the world was fed.
Although the case against Fhimah soon disintegrated - the outcome was even more preposterous: that the single biggest terrorist act ever carried out on British soil was perpetrated by a sole bomber. That one man [and a pretty non-descript man at that] could have built a bomb and somehow single-handedly smuggled it onto an airplane in Malta and that evaded detection by THREE separate airport security systems [Malta, Frankfurt and Heathrow].
That this same man was such an incredible bomb-maker that he could create a device that would have detonated at exactly the right time on an aircraft travelling at the busiest time of the year, through the most unpredictable weather conditions - except for the fact that it was delayed for approx 30 minutes throughout its entire journey is of extraordinarily brilliant judgment.
Never in the history of mankind could this feat ever be repeated. That's because it simply didn't happen. Like Lee Harvey Oswald and the assassination of JFK - yet another example of the 'dark forces' at work in America.
As a final footnote - the son of Libya’s ex-dictator General Muammar Gaddafi, Saif al-Islam [together with a number of high-ranking Libyan politicians] have categorically stated that the ONLY reason that Libya admitted that it carried out the bombing of PanAm103 was that the country was on the verge of bankruptcy due to the sanctions applied against it by the international community. He openly revealed in front of TV cameras that paying compensation of US$2.7 billion to the victim's families was miniscule compared with the cost to the country and Libyans themselves if the sanctions continued.
He did however make it blatantly clear that Libya DID NOT accept responsibility for the bombing. And that the real reason for the lengthy delay in settling the matter was purely due to the greed of the American families of the victims. [Saif al-Islam strongly emphasised that he and his ministers were desperate to come to an agreement - but that every time that they made an offer to the American families, they would reject it and demand more money!]
why should we show compasion to a psycopath who showed no compasion for all the innocent lives that were on board of that aircraft. I am tired of criminals doings as they please and then playing the victim and getting away with it. It is not fair...
I think this was the response to a trigger happy USN Captain shooting down an Iranian passenger plane by Iranian hired help. A lot of people died in both incidents and the Captain got a medal even though he was warned and knew that it was a civilian plane on its regular route.
Bel He is in hell now.
Because that makes us different from him.
Bel get over it!
Because he's being punished for doing something wrong. If we punished him with the same wrongdoing that he's being punished for, we're just as bad. He was still severely punished for what he did, and the only reason he was being released was because he had terminal cancer, so he was going to die soon afterwards anyway.
Although N739PA is a historic case it’s still the number one case that still sits on my desk to this day. Love, prayers and thoughts to EVERYONE affected by this tragedy.
I can never forget that horrific day.
I read the book written by her parents so sad.... but such a loving tribute to their daughter..
My sister best friend was on this flight , a good friend of mine , Theo Colen, her dad was a book writer , lived right down the street from us , may she rest in peice , she was a beautiful soul
God Rest Her Soul🙏💙
This is journalism at it's finest!
Yes, it is.
Indeed....lots of speculation
Speculation?@@cplcabs
Today is the 35th anniversary of that tragedy. "No one dies unless they are forgotten" Melina Hudson 103 passenger.
For the people who are wondering "well if Megrahi didn't do it, who did?" you may find this interesting (believe it was touched on in the video):
Abu Talb - "On 21 December 1989, Abu Talb and three other men were convicted by a court in Uppsala for a series of bombings in Copenhagen and Amsterdam in 1985. In May 1989, Abu Talb was arrested in connection with the bombing of Pan Am Flight 103 on 21 December 1988.
He came under suspicion after Swedish investigators established that he had travelled to Malta in October 1988, two months before the bombing. British investigators earlier found that the bomb was hidden in a radio-cassette recorder, which was placed in a suitcase and wrapped in clothing bought in Malta.
In Abu Talb's apartment in Uppsala, the police also found a 1988 calendar with the date "21 December" circled (Date of the bombing). In addition, Abu Talb's wife was recorded in a wiretapped telephone call warning another unidentified Palestinian to "get rid of the clothes immediately." Abu Talb's involvement in the bombing was also alleged in a 2002 report commissioned by lawyers for Abdelbaset al-Megrahi, the man convicted of the bombing.[6] Abu Talb denied he was involved in the bombing and said his trip to Malta was for "business"."
British incompetence. Had to find a scapegoat. The real culprit is Israel and Jews, one way or another. No Israel, no Lockerbie bomb !
Wallahu Snackbar
People on a flight going home to see relatives and loved ones. How could anyone be so cruel. What was their motive ?
It’s seems the yank plane blew up and rather than admit it blame the Libyans and a bomb
Mia Wallace well Mia, since the Libyans blew up the plane with a bomb placed in a radio, I’d say the Americans got it right!
Motive for Lockerbie = Black Gold.
Revenge and to avenge the USA
Ask the cia. They're the ones who did it
Gaddafi never claimed responsibility, UN court said Gaddafi was responsible. He accepted the verdict and paid the families. On a bbc interview before he was killed, he said he had nothing to do with this bombing.
Its same as blaming iraq for 911 when all the hijackers were from Saudi Arabia.
I know and people turn a blind eye
It's the same demographic. The hateful one.
Canada had its Air India Flight 182 "that was blown up by a bomb while in Irish airspace at an altitude of 31,000 feet" On 23 June 1985. The mechanism involved is very much similar to the Toshiba cassette recorder. " a unit that has a sleep timer, shut off " clock modules, or radio clock modules, can all be powered by low DC voltage and low milliwatt current requirements, " very low power " a small battery is all that is needed for 2 or 3 day operations
rip to all innocent souls,
Yeah... you could have at least nade it more sincere
Joseph Stalin ???? How did he not make it not sincere?
I’m from Scotland. I was 11 when PanAm 103 crashed. I’m very proud that our government released the “bomber” on compassionate grounds - we knew that he wasn’t the true evil behind this awful tragedy. The Americans knew/know far more than they let on about the bombing and I think it unfair for people to criticise the fact a man went back to his country to die when he was used as a scapegoat.
It was not Libya
It was Iran
ohh very sad,
So what supposedly did the Americans "know"?
@@ianjohnson7646it’s that post 9/11 mentality, everyone has a conspiracy theory, even if it doesn’t make logical sense
@@ianjohnson7646Firstly that PT-35B could not have come from an MST-13 that was sold to Libya. PT-35B was "tinned" in pure lead the company who manufactured the boards for MEBO used a tin/lead mix and physically couldn't tin in 100% lead so i'm guessing they know who planted this piece. The know they paid Tony and Paul Gauci to secure a conviction even after Tony's statement changed no fewer than 17 times, they know that after he identified Abu Talb they continued to push him for a different identification and showed him a set up picture where Mr Megrahi's picture stood out, they know when he didn't identify him they told him to "look again" they know it was all but Impossible for a bag to have been put on KM180 at Luqa due to the security measures in place and that the manifest showed 53 pieces of luggage which tallied with the head loaders physical count. I could go on and on and on about what the authorities knew about this flight. One day Mr Megrahi's name will be cleared no doubt about that.
This makes me so sad. I was 22 at the time or brokey heart the kids the students the innocents may they are resting on heaven o had a near death experience I k ow there is an after life so that reassures me as to where aml these innocent people are now in a paradise
Dude just buy some DMT and smoke it, you'll realize there is no afterlife only interlives
@@lunabear6110 dear iam. Not. A. Dude Iam à person you can agree to disagree I went in corridor of heaven but I know it was no coming back iam not high or making it all out it is what I saw yes I had a slice of magic mushroom cake that was deadly and I rushed myself to cidar Sinai in Los Angeles you were not even born because in my days when you were a gentleman you would not dare to call a woman dude. I had two car crashes one cc od and I still can remember shopping with my parents little in portofino Italy in 1972
@@lunabear6110 what is dmt
Natalie, the fact is only those who have placed their trust in Jesus Christ paying for their sins, repenting and accepting Him as Lord and Savior are assured of Heaven. Please Natalie (and anyone else reading this) if you haven't accepted Jesus Christ as Savior do so now. None of us know how much time we have left on this Earth. Read the books of John and Romans in the Holy Bible for guidance.
Most people in Scotland KNOW that Al Megrahi didn't do it. It is plainly obvious but there are too many people out there who want vengeance for what happened, and will stop at nothing, even framing someone, to get it. Shame on them! Seek the truth, not lies.
My aunt and uncle were in the plane behind it taking off from Heathrow, they saw it take off. They were heading to Florida
RIP to all those who lost their lives, but please dont let hate breed hate 🏴
Oh, please....
@@stuartlee6622Oh shut up stuart
How can they release this guy on "Compassionate Grounds"? Where was the compassion for all the victims of flight 103? He showed no compassion and he should receive no compassion.
+Bryan Is NOT On Fire The release from prison on compassionate grounds was part of a deal for him to drop his appeal - so that the truth would not be revealed - the truth that he was innocent.
The trial and the verdict were a travesty of justice according to most observers.
The bomb suitcase was noticed by a Heathrow baggage handler before the feeder flight from Frankfurt had arrived - the court ignored his evidence because it would destroy the whole prosecution case.
The prosecution claimed that the bomb travelled unaccompanied on three separate flights - from Malta to Frankfurt - from Frankfurt to London - and onto Pan Am 103.
What stupidity for a terrorist to take such a chance of two intervening flights - ludicrous - terrorists are not that daft.
Megrahi wasn't responsible for Lockerbie, and his conviction was based on very questionable evidence. If the Scottish government really believed him to be responsible, they would never have let him go free on any grounds. Whoever was responsible has never been held to justice.
Because the Scottish authorities felt a bit guilty about the poor trial ! .You will probably never know what really did happen ,there was probably more than one person involved anyway
Totally agree. Well said 👏👏👏👏
Did u watch and hear vid numpty
Cover up. A U.K. MP told one of the families ‘our governments know who did this, but will never tell’.
This compassionate grounds means saving on medical expenses.
Since when does the prison care about the health care of the prisoners. It's disgusting to hear that this maniac got let free.
Breezy Parker true
@@crunchies4me prisons have to guarantee human rights to people they incarcerate. They need to provide medical care. He was sentenced to life, he wasn't sentenced to suffer to death of prostate cancer alone in a cell. And he was innocent, shouldn't have been imprisoned at all.
@@crunchies4me he was a scapegoat, not a maniac. Personally denied involvement until the day he died. Why did his family and friends give him so much benefit of the doubt? Why would he plead guilty knowing he would die imprisoned either way? Why plead guilty officially and then insist innocence to anyone willing to listen? Why didn't they entertain his appeals at some point before he was literally about to die? If he was such a mass murderer, why didn't *the courts* appeal to have him extradited to America where he would've faced harsher consequences? Because in a real, fair trial he'd have been exonerated for lack of evidence.
@@crunchies4me .......What's even more disgusting is that idiots like you believe your government's outrageous lies. [presumably and judging by your dreadful mangling of the English language, you're American?]
When they say die in prison , it should mean just that. They only give these sentences for ppl who have killed. So how do you have compassion for a killer. Especially a mass murderer.
Huh? The guy was innocent! Lol
@@sportsbettingczar2151 correct.
If everyone is saying he didn't do it, who did? Respect to the families still fighting to clear his name. And the Scottish authorities. The fact is, Scotland has a law to allow for release in these circumstances, it is their country and their decision. I would be more mad at the way that case got put on a plane and got thru at Heathrow - if the British are so bothered by his release we should be outraged by them for letting that case get on an aircraft at Heathrow. More importantly RIP to the victims. God bless. Also al-megrahi had no life when he returned home. He didn't get off scot free. That may or may not be karma.
So they are telling me that this was not detected through security screening of suitcases this is very suspicious in my eyes. How do we know this suitcase was not planted on the plane.
Rest in peace to the lives lost
This was before 9/11, airline security was not nearly as strong as it is now.
Believe it not not, before that day it was very easy for rights to slip through
This was very well done. Thank you.
michael bailey true very thorough
It's not, it's good from the view of the defence but it never gives the prosecution a chance to refute any of the claims.
@@CptQuakers This is why the appeal was never heard....
@@CptQuakers. It is good. Period. The prosecution has the financial apparatus of the State backing it, and has every opportunity to refute, but doesn't because it is flawed and knows it is a can of worms. Coaching witnesses !!!!
God bless you all. RIP
Okay, now I have doubts.......
There is someone to blame but no point blaming someone who did not do it
As in the Air India disaster, and this one, a person, or persons have to be identified with the skill to make a nondescript item such as " a general use radio cassette player into a precision triggering device . " wiring the alarm , or radio shut off " as a trigger. I first wrote of this possibility of timer clock modules, in 1975. " this information was shared with the RCMP Bomb squad "
The devil has an appointment with all the bombers .
Very speculative. For example, they state that the shop owner in Malta had told them he went on all expenses trips to Scotland....but no evidence is provided of that.
I’m Scottish and anyone criticising our law is stupid the plane was supposed to explode over the ocean,
The whole case landed in Scottish hands because is crashed in Scotland not because of some idiotic cover up
We 'the west' let him go because we are compassionate as people and I personally think it shows alot of the moral values we navigate by in ours lives and that terrorism will never be enough to break us, love you all my UK family
Libya allowed british oil companies in its land in exchange of Magrahi's release.
And it was 4 days before christmas aswell R.I.P all the innocent souls 🙏😞
i saw the stories the following day australian time.the day of my 11th birthday(20-12-1988).how awful for all these people who died.although united replaced panam two years earlier on the australia to usa services it was too close to home for a lot of us.we kids were even asking our parents for our upcoming america trip three weeks later who we would be flying with,we found that out the day of collecting the travel documents(6-1-89)it was continental.
Christ wasn't the Messiah
@@franzchong5889this happened the day after I turned one.. (20/12/1987).. and even though I was so young and obviously didn’t know what was happening.. learning of it now still has a huge impact
This has been a miscarriage of justice. The appeal would have revealed the truth.
That is quite a disturbing amount of evidence....
Al Jazeera completely ignored that the Swiss manufacturer of the timing device, Mebo, testified that they manufactured 40 such devices and the customer was the Libyan government.
@@NorceCodine so ? What a stupid comment. It doesn’t mean the Libyan government did this. Idiot
I always said he was given a promise that the Libyan government would look after his family if he was the fall guy
The night before Lockerbie tragedy a break-in at Heathrow’s terminal 3 was reported to the police.
Break-in confirmed in the following publications:
The Guardian, 1 Feb 2002
The Telegraph, 1 Feb 2002
The BBC News, 31 Jan 2002
The Herald Scotland, 16 Oct 2001
The Daily Mail Online, Sep 12 2011
The Independent, Sep 11, 2001
London Evening Standard, 13 Feb 2002
The Socialist Worker, 25 Aug 2009
Could this be when a bomb was placed into the luggage for Pan Am Flight 103?
I.R.A ?
Rest in peace 🥺
They say there were many signing or date errors. There was 10,000 pieces of evidence so it must have been an overwhelming task to say the least.
You also just getting this in your recommendations ye
Typical UK Justice system Lockerbie/Hillsborough bent and twisted not a clue what they are doing
My 17th birthday 🎂 remember the news that night like yesterday.
Was it Libya?.i dont think so,try Iran,to the people who have never been to the cemetery,their was an American senator on board the flight and also senior military people on board as some plaques state that they died in the line of there duty.what was the senator all about and why did military people die in the line of duty?
A don't agree with the government, To let him out ,!!! He was charged with a terrorism attack from his country. So they shld hve nvr let him out . 👍🏴💯%.
Apparently the guy who bought the clothes in Malta, was the bomber. So why did Tony Gauci’s description of al-Megrahi not match his appearance?
someone found it and analyzed it and went back a tossed it back into the mix
I was a young copper and spent weeks on the fells after the crash. Even then there were rumours amongst the British police that US Agents, dressed as TWA Engineers in blue overalls, were altering evidence.
My father did likewise, they got the call that night for all of Strathclyde Police at the time to be posted immediately to Lockerbie. They didn’t have the staff to deal with such a huge incident. It affected everyone so much that many officers retired early on health grounds.
I wonder what the relatives families think about all this?
They're probably quite upset that the real culprit was never named let alone brought to justice. They deserve closure, this documentary is proof tuat they're not allowed to obtain closure. Don't shoot the messenger.
We have all been led to believe that any modern democracy must keep separate its criminal justice system from any kind of political influence. Cases like the Birmingham Six, the Guildford Four and the McGuire Seven show that shamefully, this principle has been ignored in the UK before. We need full transparency in this case. It's in the national interest.
Someone’s got to go to jail
The sick and evil individual who carried the bomb. To be placed on PA 103 at Frankfurt was also, I believe the same individual who presented a bomb in a suitcase at Vancouver airport to New Delhi on AIR INDIA 182 23/06/1985, there's no doubt in my mind, I wonder how that individual sleeps at night. I wouldn't call them human.
+Dave Shields The same bomber for Air India 182 and Pan Am 103 - what evidence is there for that?
The Pan Am bomb was introduced at Heathrow before the feeder flight from Frankfurt had arrived.
Dave Shields If you wish to bring down a flight leaving from Montreal with a bomb it makes sense to put the bomb on the aircraft in Montreal.
If you wish to do something similar three years later to a plane leaving from London it does not make sense to put the bomb on a different plane in Frankfurt.
Well perhaps in your belief system it does make sense - it might even make sense to put the bomb on a plane in Malta and have it transferred once at Frankfurt and again in London.
You create a complex scenario of a terrorist bomb being subject to chance handling to arrive at its intended destination. Not the actions of a committed terrorist - leaving things to fortune in the hope that it will all work - and your argument about similarity - which two flights did the Air India bomb travel on before being placed on its intended plane?
You make things up - perhaps the same person planted the bomb on the Russian Sharm el Sheikh flight recently but I doubt it.
Of course it might just as easily have been different people using the same method - difficult to accept I know but perfectly possible.
The baggage hall at LHR was broken into the night before -
*_Heathrow security guard Ray Manly, who discovered that the padlock had been cut on security door CP2 leading to the Pan Am baggage area, told the Lockerbie appeal court at Camp Zeist in 2002_*
*_"I believe it would be possible for an unauthorised person to obtain tags for a particular Pan Am flight and then, having broken the CP2 lock, to have introduced a tagged bag into the baggage build up area."_*
The luggage container that had the bomb in it had already been pre-loaded with suitcases *before* the Frankfurt flight arrived - Baggage Hander John Bedford gave statements about a brown/maroon Samsonite case being in the container - and seeing it in just the right place to cause the damage that occurred.
Perhaps it was Bedford who planted the bomb? and in Canada too...
You would do well to set aside your Canada / Frankfurt theory for a while and look into what happened in the baggage hall at Heathrow and John Bedford's statements.
Why can't you just accept a different point without insulting the person expressing the opinion ? Wny can't you show a bit of class without coming across as a troll, who knows why terrorists do the things they do, perhaps there wasn't a suitable flight from montreal that day or incase of Lockerbie as well, what if this happened, what if that happened, oh yeah another similarity flight pan am 103 was 20 minutes late in taking off, had it taken off at the correct time the plane would have disingtated over the atlantic, which was the plan, both bombs that were used were on a timer using dynamite, use your sense man, ive read and watched documentary about thease two disasters and the similarities are glaring, how can you not see it. ?
Dave Shields I do not accept a different point of view - your point of view - because you provide no robust or plausible argument to support it. It amounts to this - _both aircraft were brought down by a bomb so it must have been the same person responsible_
You offer no evidence for this - just your belief.
A troll sets out to deliberately cause an emotional response - disagreeing is not being a troll.
One aircraft was brought down by Sikh militants - Inderjit Singh Reyat, a Canadian national, remains the only person convicted of involvement in the bombing. Singh pleaded guilty in 2003 to manslaughter. He was sentenced to 15 years in prison for building the bombs that exploded aboard Flight 182 and at Narita.
My sense tells me that even though there are similarities - timer operated bomb - that it's unlikely for the bomb maker to be the same person - both events revenge based - one by Sikhs over military attacks on the Golden Temple - the other for the downing of Iran Air 655 by an American ship.
As for your *_who knows why terrorists do the things they do_* it's usually pretty obvious with just the minimum of thought - as an act of revenge or for political reasons to focus minds and change attitudes.
You do not make a compelling argument.
+Richard Buxton M singh was a fake name, i won't be replying to any further comnents by you, you offer nothing new and i was clearing referring to the human garbage that put the bomb on the plane NOT the bomb maker for air india 182.
rest in peace guys
The investigation of this bombing raised questions about investigative procedures of air crash and bombings and how reliable are they ?It also does not do justice for the families and questions the motives of governments and how they can turn unfortunate circumstances for their own gain .sad to see.
It was a horrible time to flg on Pan-Am. But I refused to pass up a deal on cheap airfare.
I love Al Jazeera aviation documentaries.
And the music they select for these videos is so appropriate, mesmerizing, and entertaining.😊
This is heartbreaking 😢💔
can someone explain me how a luggage containing a bomb in Malta airport can end up in a Pan Am flight departing from Frankfurt without passenger?
An Iranian friend and I (Scottish) had a flight from JFK to EDI and immigration delayed him and he missed the flight. They didn't take his baggage off.
It’s a connection flight so they just transfer your luggage from one plane to the other plane
It was put on the flight in Germany. The shirt is from Malta, not the bomb.
my British friend, I respectfully disagree: the two supposed Libyan culprits are charged with having put the bomb in the Malta Airlines to Germany flight... HOW this bomb ended up on that Pan Am flight without a passenger is still a very debated mystery that no one, not even the airport authorities was able to explain.@@cplcabs
exactly!!! @@stevechristie2569
I was at the Pan Am Terminal at JFK the next day seeing some friends off who were flying to Sweden. That terminal was like a tomb. Me and my father spoke to a customs agent who was working on the day that Pan Am flight 103 was bombed. I looked in her eyes and those eyes were very haunted. Such a horrible tragedy and Scotland set that one guy free due to compassionate grounds. What did he do in order to deserve compassion? Nothing!!
Did you even watch this documentary? If you did and assuming it is correct, why are you angry at a guy who cannot be said to be guilty?
Lybia never owned up to responsibility and had sanctions against them,after a long time they paid compensation only to trade again as it was costing them more
Because they were innocent it was the cia
I thought ghaddafi did take responsibility
Seems like this ops took lots of planning & care for the device to work perfectly.not sure if arab operatives were capable of such intricate ops.
Small terrorist cells " a few people " can tie up a great deal of public safety time, to monitor potential threats. From my experience, i have heard accurate discovery of the explosive locations, the accurate time of events and potential suspects. Which brings us to cause and effect, by groups or nations, that feel they are shamed or abused by overlords. Perhaps if there was less gunboat diplomacy, calmer heads and better outcomes would prevail. "Some one pissed of somebody"
Rip to the victims of Pan Am 103 “Maid of the seas”, i can’t wait meet and talk with all of you when i reach heaven.
Speaking from experience on other events not related to this case but to other incidents that are parallel to this case, the event such as this creates an information overload. An event that is so traumatic such as this that has never happened before, with the volume of evidence versus manpower and the existing laws of 3 countries where the Policies, Procedures and Practices are not in place that unifies these 3 or more jurisdictions, you can argue all day long that the rules were not followed, you have to take into account that the system was massively overloaded, with law enforcement, intelligent s agencies and investigative processes based on manpower and resources to track all nuances with a system not in place to process all the evidence because it had not been engineered yet to handle an event like this bombing, you will always have none conformity of the Policies, Procedures and Practices as there will always be the human factor, which is based on training on how to proceed in these kind of events. If a system has not been established with an effective top down methodology, in my view can only be handled by institutions that are constantly geared to dynamically practice with creation of documentations that come close to each event to execute more effectively evidence gathering, effective documentation that immediately processes the information electronically to a central database. I already have an idea on how to establish this with the current existing technologies to integrate with current investigative techniques with relevant forensic applications.
What are you waiting for.. put together your idea and pitch it to the right people..
My uncle was one of the first cops there and told how many children were on the plane and told to find them first! Two being found on a house roof still in seatbelts decapitated , prisoners in Greenock loved megrahi Lybia paid for sky tc all channels to the whole prison so he could watch al jazera
@ricky4mel, is that story true about your uncle and the children on the roof?
@@ryanverrastro4405 how do you only look for children when it’s dark & it was an explosion & they fell 31000 feet & the bodies were everywhere?
@@msmo2060 They used a torch.
Hmm, why would they tell them to find children first? What was the brief? Ignore adults? That sounds like BS to me.
God bless 🙏😢them lovely people who lost their own lifes
clare bacchiochi and clayton lee flick,put flowers on their grave aged 14yrs olds,,still remember all the pain i saw in that grave yard that day...R.I.P....xXx
I think the authorities in Scotland did believe that he was innocent, if not why release him on compassionate grounds? I guess we will never know the truth.
I believe the SNP were in power at the time....that really tells it all.
@@cplcabssnp over english tories anytime. Dirty uk
@@LilyKittyCatto you trust the SNP despite the huge amount of damage they have done to Scotland?
@@cplcabs tories have damaged scotland more than anyone else, snp are infinitely better than your english parties
Al Jazeera did the right thing by talking about alternative theories of the tragedy's cause. This points to high journalistic standards, not conspiracy theories or apologies or sympathy for terrorists at all.
Suhail Shafi. Al-Jazeera are a criminal Terrorist organisation and should be shut down permanently.
Bullshit. Al Jazeera is constantly pushing Islam like it isn't the most sinister, disgusting religion ever created. Absolutely gross.
Suhail Shafi Islam is a cancer, Al Jazeera is its messenger. This is a propaganda, attempting to lay blame of the bombing at others other than Islamic Zealots. I agree Islam needs to be irradiated from the planet. Religion of Peace? BS!
Al Jazeera is arguably the world's most courageous television station, exposing the crimes of the US government and military.
The United States Military is a criminal terrorist organization and should be shut down permanently.
Compassion? Ridiculous
@arthomnia4761, I just wanted to write much respect to you, and all the residents of Lockerbie Scotland, as well as all the victims on Pan Am Flight 103, a senseless tragedy, I am thinking about a trip to Scotland, and would love to visit Lockerbie, as far as the landscape, Is there anything to recognize in relation to the crash? I would assume that after 35 years no one would be able to tell now what took place on 12/21/88, thank you and may god be with you.
I've always understood it was the Iranians, in revenge for the shooting down of Iran Air 655, a passenger flight from Tehran to Dubai, which was shot down in July 1988, killing all 290 people aboard, who were responsible for the Lockerbie bomb.
It was brought down by a guided missile fired by the USS Vincennes. The Americans for a long time denied responsibility for the shooting down, and in fact awarded the captain of the Vincennes a medal. It was only in 1996 that the US government finally admitted they had deliberately fired the missile and paid compensation to the families of the victims (which included 66 children).
Despite the ICA and various other international organisations finding the Americans guilty of many mistakes in their handling of the situation they have still refused to apologise for the destruction of the airliner. It was, or course, wrong for the Iranians to take revenge. But the downing of the Iran Air flight 655 has never been apologised for by the US government.
Incidentally now all Libyan government records have been made publicly available in Tripoli there is no evidence at all that Gadafi or his agents were responsible for Lockerbie, he was a convenient scapegoat at the time, however.
You'd think the police could manage to not screw up a case as important as this.
They knew it was the cia who did it
@@ia6619 how do you know for a fact that it was the CIA?
Massive cover up
Only 27 years ????WTF Scottish court???
They knew he was innocent and didn't want to go through an appeal trial and bring up false evidence that got him convicted. They knew it was the CIA and there's even Scottish police testimony saying it was the CIA. If he actually did it do you really think they would've released him? Use some common sense
the bomb was put on at heathrow, they didnt report this. but the worker who spoke out was silenced. why?
Nope, it was put on in Germany
Oil rich country blamed for a terrorist event. What was the motive for Libya? Zero.
US aircraft carrier launched a missile which brought down a Lybian passenger jet in 1987 I believe. An accident.
@@goodgood9955 Wrong. 1988 Iran Air Airbus A300 plane shot down by America on purpose. How do you accidently shoot a missile at a passenger plane in someone's own country? Shot down over Iran.
@Are you stupid or pretending to be? No warning shot and plane shot down within 12 miles of Iranian territory which US warship entered illegally. If they can't f*** tell the difference between an airbus A300 and an F14 (American plane also) then they are lying. US paid $61 million to Iran and no apology but Libya paid $1.8 billion for Pan Am. Vietnam war and Gulf of Tonkin was also a lie. President LBJ lied and said US ships attacked by Vietnamese Gunships. Oh really. Huge lie. Have you ever heard the truth? Building 7 and Twin Towers were blown up also for two wars. Enron and Worldcom evidence all destroyed. What hit Building 7? Reported as collapsed one hour before it did. Weapons of Mass destruction never found nor Osama's body. All American lies for wars.
@ The airliner was transmitting the correct transponder "squawk" code typical of a civilian aircraft and maintained radio contact in English with appropriate air traffic control facilities. Even if the plane had truly been an Iranian F-14, Iran argued that the U.S. would not have had the right to shoot it down, as it was flying within Iranian airspace and did not follow a path that could be considered an attack profile, nor did it illuminate Vincennes with radar. It was not a threat in any way.
I stay in scotland, right where the debris fell on that night.
Its engraved in my brain like 9/11.
My brother spent time in Jail with the Libyan bomber. He had his own suite built. Double bed, satellite tv, power shower, galley kitchen
He went to his death still claiming his innocence.
No biscuits ?
I was on this air plane on that same day. My wife and I flew from New York to London. We exited the plane just hours before it re boarded for its return to NYC.
So
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NaughtyGirls Vegas TV now that is creepy.
You where lucky. A wee lad from Scotland lost his mother and father in this terrible situation. My cousin offered to take him in. I think he ended up with his Granny and Grandmother.
It's an interesting comment.
Released and welcomed home by hundreds of people. An uncompassionate man doesn't deserve to be sent home. Looks as if the whole investigation was completely messed up.
@Sam thank you for pointing this out!
@@carolineclancy7989 so why did Tony Gauci lie in his description of al-Megrahi?
they said or i heard that the Pan am 103 bombing was some kind of retaliation for americans shooting down iran air airbus when they mistaken it for spy plane
Just watched the movie the tragedy of flight 103 and that brought me here. There was certainly a lot more people involved.
No wonder the Scottish authorities let him go.
B Blake It seems to me that this Libyan dude had contacts on the inside of the scottish judicial system.🤔
@Sam I'm not talking garbage I'm talking reality.
Weird!!! Lockerbie is not on flight path between London and New York!!! How do you describe this?
@4 REAL It`s a big lie! Redirect of the commercial aircraft due to weather concerns is unprecedented in the history of Heathrow and has not happened so far.
It's a very common route for trans Atlantic flights from England dependant on wind and weather conditions. Up over north of England, then Scotland and into the North Atlantic. There could well be a conspiracy regarding Lockerbie but the route is not one.
Regarding the introduction sentence, "Abdel Baset al-Megrahi eventually dies of the prostate cancer that so controversially won him his freedom from a Scottish prison", his death won him nothing. If he was guilty, he would have had to face God, which would be a greater pain of guilt incomprehensible in our earthly understanding. I am not saying where his soul went, but to face guilt is not fathomable in our earthly understanding.
Such a shame all those people perished,RIP,but I really wish that CCTV was installed then,its baffling,but to think that it could be the real culprit is alive.
It was Iran not Libya
So hang on the only evidence against him to start with was that the shop owner said he was the one in his shop buying clothes and now can I have the reward money please. And no one thought this was suspicious and odd at the time and his description didn't fit the one he had given at the beginning. There is a good reason why courts don't place much evidence on eye witnesses so why did they in this case. The Scottish government released him on supposed to be compassionate grounds I think they did it because they had reason to think by then that he wasn't in fact guilty and it was easier that way than declaring a miscarriage of justice and a lot quicker too the Scottish government were brave to release him going against what the Americans and the British wanted I take my hat off to them
If you go by this documentary by Al Jazzeera
RIP to those who died. My condolences to the families of the deceased. The murderer only got 27 years? He should have life in jail for each of those whose lives he took.
I take it you did not watch the whole thing . Innocent man was put in jail
Great Video Thanks.
Can someone explain to me why a plane travelling from London to NY would go via Lockerbie? It seems to be quite out of the way.
Since the earth is nearly spherical it is actually a shorter distance to fly north along a "great circle", versus flying what appears to be a straight line from London to NYC on a flat map. But even then Lockerbie is farther north than the great circle between LHR and JFK airports, so that extra divergence to the north was probably to avoid bad weather or the jet stream, and/or to take advantage of favorable winds.
The Homeless Consultant thanks! very informative.
Quincycle the sky has airways like motorways
It's their normal flight path.
Cos of Mossad, CIA, Soros, Thatcher, Man from Uncle or something. Yes that's it!
I love my country but where was the compassion for 270 innocent soles. The Scottish should be embarrassed
Keeping a man (who has not been proven guilty) in prison, when his death was imminent, wasn't going to undo their death or make life easier/worse for the family members. Everyone clings on to someone to blame, even if it's not proven. As someone from Scotland, I am immensely PROUD of the way our tiny, insignificant Scottish Government told corrupt British and American governments to GTF.
@@craigstephens93 On the contrary. He was in prison because he was guilty.
@@cheltenjones3215 guilty until proven innocent I suppose
Craig Ian Stephens 100% agree. And as an insignificant wee Scottish quine I'd rather the bloke had died in agony in a box without pain relief if he was guilty. I don't know enough about this to say any more.
@Sam so gaddafi is always in the habit of paying innocent victims 1.5 billion for something he didn't do..OKAY!!!
“Bullet the blue sky.........”
Iran Air Flight 655....connection?
Totally connected....it was revenge for 655
Seems to me that a lot of the comments here are from people who didn't watch the film. Watch the film. Abdelbaset Ali Al Megrahi did NOT do it. It was Iran in revenge for the USS Vincennes shooting down an Iranian passenger flight.
@@markcoupe5748 I truly feel like Gaddafi had something to do with the downing of the plane and I also believe the Iranians had their dirty hands in this.
@@markcoupe5748 Yes, Libya bit the bullet.
so you think a film is factual?
I remember at the time feeling there was something about the conviction that didnt sit right - just an instinct that kicks in sometimes in your life
Bullfuckingshit at 37:46 1st thing you should notice is that this "documentary" purposely makes the details of Megrahi's photograph very difficult to see during the comparison. I have seen the same picture and it is available on the internet in excellent quality. The creators of this TV Show went out of their way to make the photo and sketch bear 0 resemblance to one another. So far as the Police Sketch goes, Abdelbaset al-Megrahi could easily have been the man Gauci described. Take a look at the multiple Police Sketches of Ted Bundy for example. Hardly an uncanny resemblance, and yet they all still capture the essence of Bundy's features...the same way the Sketch from Gauci's recollection resembles Megrahi. I agree that the case against Megrahi was held together by a shoestring, but this documentary is definitely going to extreme and fraudulent lengths to exonerate him, further perverting justice.
in truth we will NEVER know WHO bombed the plane as all the evidence was placed on a man who didn't commit the crime I'm gonna do a rant on this soon.
Ok the planet is😀 waiting
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