Can Christians Lose Their Salvation? | Episode 70
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- Опубликовано: 28 авг 2022
- Can a Christian fall away from faith and be eternally condemned? Theologians have debated this question for centuries. On one side of the argument are proponents of the doctrine of eternal security, or what is sometimes euphemistically referred to as “once saved, always saved." On the other side are adherents of what is known as "conditional security."
In this episode, Dr. David K. Bernard explains what these terms mean and examines what the Bible says about this eternally-important question.
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I backslid for 9 years. Worked in mainstream non denom mega churches, got wrapped up in a fake life of proclaiming one thing on the platform and behind closed doors living a life of filth with no accountability. I should’ve died many times, the things I got involved with are unthinkable. My life fell apart in the most dramatic of ways, but It’s only by His mercy and grace that I am still here. Jesus really does leave the 99 to find the 1 that is lost and that is so real! Thank you Jesus for coming back for me when I didn’t deserve it!
Amazing 🙌
Amazing the power of those who remained steadfast in prayer for you
Their Faith was rewarded
I imagine you are grateful for these people
@@robbietrimmer9752 🙏🏼
Glad He is merciful… we all are!
Amen
Always so good Bro.Bernard. I have in my life walked away from the Lord. Thank God He brought me back. People prayed for me!! I am so Thankful The Lord restored me, when I returned to HIM!! Thank you Bro.Bernard.
Sister Karen, you came back because you were always saved. If not, you wouldn't have.
@@garvinsmith4555 thank you thank you. Jesus only went to the cross once for all. If we maintain our salvation then we ARE ALL lost forever
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religion leads people to happiness and peace, but there are some rules, for example halal haram major sins have increased in the world drinking adultery murders gambling interest slander lies magic homosexuality these are major sins people's tight and naked clothing that evokes sexuality is a sin.❤
@@garvinsmith4555 : Blatant falsehood. Blasphemy. Contradiction of Hebrews 6.
Also, the prodigal son never physically died. Furthermore, you completely ignored the mark of the beast and the fact that no one is born saved. The warning about the mark is not to the unsaved because they are already going to hell genius. There will be saved people who will take the mark and reject their faith and end up in the lake of fire. Salvation is a free gift and any gift can be returned.
That is why the Bible warns what will happen to those who turn from the plow.
Then gain, you have never studied a bible in your life have you?
Just like the person who taught you OSAS.
Jesus is the Only way to Heaven, sinners if you are watching there is freedom and assurance in Jesus Christ!! Come home to open arms !!!
Thank you for helping us to understand.
Thank you God minister.
Jeremiah 32:40. "I will make an everlasting covenant with them: I will never stop doing good to them, and I will inspire them to fear me, so that they will never turn away from me."
Amen, thank God for his truth. It's still make us free.
Faith is not a way of life,it’s continually trusting in Jesus blood
Faith without works is dead. If your faith is dead, so are you. Faith is the way of life, it's Faith in Jesus's sacrifice. Without Faith, you are lost. Following Jesus's commands for His followers is the Way. You can't spread the Gospel without Faith. Your works show your Faith. Only those things done for Christ will last.
Thank you for rightly dividing the word of truth.
I appreciate this teaching and I agree 100%
SO JESUS CHRIST CAN ,,,,, UN,,,, REDEEME HIS CHILDREN ?
Yet another teaching that needs to trickle down to the local pastors and saints. I have heard from many members and former members that never believed they can have assurance of salvation.
But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, *I myself should be a castaway*
{1 Corinthians 9:27}
Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; *ye are fallen from grace*
{Galatians 5:4}
Take heed, brethren, lest there be in *any of you* an evil heart of unbelief, in *departing from the living God*
{Hebrews 3:12}
Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall *he be thought worthy* who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, *wherewith he was sanctified* an unholy thing, and hath done *despite* unto the Spirit of grace?
{Hebrews 20:29}
Brethren, if any of you [brethren] do err from the truth, and one convert him;
Let him know, that he which converteth *the sinner* from the error of his way shall save a soul from death, and shall hide a multitude of sins.
{James 5:19-20}
For *if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world* through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, *they are AGAIN entangled therein* and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning.
For it had been better for them *not to have known the way of righteousness* than, after they have known it, *to TURN from the holy commandment delivered unto them*
But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, *The dog is turned to his own vomit again* and *the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire*
{2 Peter 2:20-22}
We must continue to abide in Christ, being servants of obedience.
clear concise explanation, thank you
You cannot break relationship or no one can break our relationship with God by sinning but you can break the fellowship by sinning. That's why we have the assurance of salvation.
The person told you that lie to you. We're saved in Conditions. Abide in me Jesus said . If anyone doesn't abide him, he shall be cut off and burn...
Confusing irrelevance. Satan has a relationship as enemy. What kind of relationship/ is key. When you refuse to repent for sins known....
Is Judas Iscariot saved....self murder...no way to ask forgiveness...?
How can you be saved if that is your belief? Read James 2:10 that is why salvation is by grace and not by works Eph. 2:8-9.
Relationship as God's child cannot be broken. But can be cut off as a disciples if we will not abide in Him.
@@truthreveal you are taking that verse out of content
@@pheonixred1498 What is the context?
Very well placed the truth of the word of God
Luke 21:36 Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.
Amen, Hallelujah Praise and Glory to God our Father Jesus Christ great sermon it seem harsh but that is true great job my brethren brother david Bernard God bless you'll 🙏 ❤
Thank you, Dr. Bernard for your love and dedication.
We are sealed with Holy Spirit until the day of redemption
@@billyluffman1410 No the word UNTIL never appears in Ephesians 4:30.
Ephesians 4:30 And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye
are sealed *unto* the day of redemption.
Unto is εἰς it mean FOR
Paul is saying to the Ephesians don't grieve God's Holy Spirit which
has sealed you for the day of redemption
The baptists and the Pentecostals have no idea what the day of redemption is. Paul however makes it perfectly clear exactly what he is talking about
Rom 8:23 And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, *the redemption of our body*
The reason none of you know what the redemption of the body is. Is because the baptist and the Pentecostal churches teach the resurrection of the dead is happening daily which they teach is a resurrection of spirits i.e. ghosts leaving the bodies of dead people. You guys don't believe in a physical bodily resurrection of the dead with physical glorified bodies.
SO YOUR SAYING JESUS CHRIST CAN ... UN,,,,, REDEEME HIS CHILDREN
If we can really answer this question as christians,then we can know whether one saved always saved is true or false.
The question is this:Did Samson make it back to the lord or not?
I am pentecostal but recently am seeing that on the face value of the scriptures,it is appearing that from John 3:16 and John 11:25, there is eternal security for believers.
The story of the prodigal son also illustrates this.
The question is was the prodigal son saved before he went astray or not?
The Christian Life is a RELATIONSHIP WITH JESUS CHRIST.
@Brenton Hobson …I agree with you 100 percent.
A right relationship with Jesus Christ involves obedience.
Thank you for your comment; I believe God used you to relay a message.
@Juan Pablo Zepeda Mar Nice projection. I see you follow the false prosperity gospel teacher Joel Osteen. You might want to go look in the mirror before claiming others aren’t saved.
@@buckeyewill2166Jesus life is relationship with God Almighty
Muslim life is a relationship withGod Almighty like Jesus
Christian life is a relationship with Jesus (a man,aprpohet of God)
No relationship with God Almighty
If truly saved they are sealed untill the day of redemption, !
But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, *I myself should be a castaway*
{1 Corinthians 9:27}
Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; *ye are fallen from grace*
{Galatians 5:4}
Take heed, brethren, lest there be in *any of you* an evil heart of unbelief, in *departing from the living God*
{Hebrews 3:12}
Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall *he be thought worthy* who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, *wherewith he was sanctified* an unholy thing, and hath done *despite* unto the Spirit of grace?
{Hebrews 20:29}
Brethren, if any of you [brethren] do err from the truth, and one convert him;
Let him know, that he which converteth *the sinner* from the error of his way shall save a soul from death, and shall hide a multitude of sins.
{James 5:19-20}
For *if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world* through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, *they are AGAIN entangled therein* and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning.
For it had been better for them *not to have known the way of righteousness* than, after they have known it, *to TURN from the holy commandment delivered unto them*
But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, *The dog is turned to his own vomit again* and *the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire*
{2 Peter 2:20-22}
Ye must continue to abide in Christ.
so why lucifer fell??
@@jerometalaveratv9163well Lucifer is an Angel and salvation is for human beings.
If you are living in sin. You are not saved, you should stop letting Satan deceive you.
CAN U LOSE YOUR REDEMPTION WHEN JESUS CHRIST REDEEMES U
Love this simplicity true Gospel explanation
I hate it he added works by saying faith included works
@@weedsmokinhippy : Faith without works is dead according to God. You go right ahead and tell God He is wrong.
@@wrongfullyaccused7139 James was talking about faith before men read it in context compare it with Paul Ephesians 2:8-10 King James Version (KJV)
For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:lest any man should boast.
@@weedsmokinhippy : Not so fast hotshot. The ENTIRE word of God must be taken in context TOGETHER!
The Bible is the word of GOD. It's is NOT the word of James or Paul or anyone else but GOD! Period!
GOD states that faith without works is dead! That is the end of it!
Goodbye blasphemer.
@@wrongfullyaccused7139 🤓you just repeated what I was getting at ? You 🫵took a quote from James and blanketed the whole gospel with it .wear does works in the bible have anything to do with salvation please give scripture.🥴
It's dangerous to take credit for any part of salvation. If this were true we could just believe in ourselves.
WE ARE SELVES CAN PLUCK OUR SELFS OUT OF GODS HAND ?
Of course
@@theodoreritola7641 No
@@theodoreritola7641 Can you yourself unborn yourself?
Nope im 100 percent redeemed BORN AGAIN ,I trust Jesus Christ ALONE for my REDEMPTION How about you ?
Amen! Thank you for such a powerful and inspirational message Pr. Bernard.
Thank you Bro. Bernard for the great discussion and biblical point of view. Also, appreciate if you can also discuss about biblical basis/view of claiming, rebuking and declaring, binding and losing as aware there are different interpretations on these
The relationship is held together by GOD. A true Believer would not reject JESUS bcz to do s means you have to have Grace to reject Him and since it's HIS GRACE not ours, HE CANNOT BREAK HIS COVENANT! We can grieve HIM but never leave.
THANK YOU!!!! So many people get it wrong we are sealed unto the day of redemption.
I have been battling Calvinists lately & it's been exhausting. This really condenses everything into a concise explanation. Much appreciation for this presentation.
CAN JESUS CHRIST EVER ,,,,UN,,, REDEEME HIS CHILDREN ?
@@theodoreritola7641 No. But children can disown their parents.
SO YOUR DADS BLOOD IS NO LONGER YOURS LOL .AND I HAVE MORE POWER THAN JESUS CHRIST TO,, UN ,,REDEEM MY SELF LOL DOES JESUS CHRIST KNOW THIS YET LOL
You have NOT told every one how The Lord Jesus Christ ,, un.. redeemes his children yet please please
@@theodoreritola7641 John 15:5-6 “I am the vine; you are the branches. If you remain in me and I in you, you will bear much fruit; apart from me you can do nothing. If you do not remain in me, you are like a branch that is thrown away and withers; such branches are picked up, thrown into the fire and burned"
If, as the “once saved, always saved” doctrine teaches, one cannot absolutely be lost after receiving salvation, why are there so many passages warning against apostasy? Seems like it would be wasted effort. Why would God repeatedly warn us against something that cannot happen?
May God help us to understand and follow the word of Christ, for, as Peter said, “Lord, to whom shall we go? You have words of eternal life” (John 6:68).
I'm apostolic and recieved the Holy Spirit in '78. Since then I've backsliding and returned to the Lord several times. Currently I've been serving the Lord for close to two years.
The one thing I can't stop is cigarette smoking. In every other way I am serving Him. I still see him protecting me and blessing me and I know He still loves me but I feel so unhappy much of the time. the time.
Have to keep fighting it, and you can make a vow to do something say volunteer work or give something else up like TV on certain days etc if God takes the desire from you for smoking . There are all kinds of vows you can make like fasting no food water for 24 hrs say the 2nd weekend of every month for x amount of months . I love to have 2 beers most days but I give some days up if he helps with my sex problem . Do you understand ?
@@biblebill6206 Yes I understand. Thanks for the advice.
@@robertnieten7259 Your welcome .
You can have victory over tobacco.judt fast from thinking about it fast a breakfast for 3 days pray
@@davidortega357 Thank you David for your advise.
The Word says to" set aside the sin that so easily besets you"( Heb.12: 1,2).
The Word doesn't say that we are necessarily talking about having to set it aside only one time.
Sometines i have to set it asude several times. That doesn't justify it in any way, it's is just a case of my not losing to it as long as i keep fighting it. " A righteous man falleth down seven times and rises again"( Prov.24:16).
Hebrews 6:4 ff speaks with absolute crystal clarity on the matter:
for it says that those who have tasted the heavenly gift, if they fall away etc etc are . . to be burned
go look it up
and who but the born again has tasted the heavenly gift?
therefore OSAS is false for it posits a FALSE security =- the security of a doctrinal plank rather than a personal one on one relationship
unfortunately when i read this passage i was totally terrified and did exactly the wrong thing in response: i thought i stayed saved by keeping the Law, when it turn s out that tryingto keep the law is to forsake christ FOR the law (Galatians)
though i was extremly devout THAT is when i fell away - into religion , not into the world and its pursuits
the condition (if we must speak of conditional security) is not hard nor burdensome, for His commands ( as opposed to the Law) are not hard
it is simply ABIDE IN HIM - a one on one relationship for HE is a person not a set of doctrines and knowing ABOUT Him is not the same as knowing him
and only the born again can do this. moreover if you re not born again you will likely not have the foggiest idea of what i am talking about.
as it was it took me years to find this out.
my church was of no help whatsoever
You cannot lose your salvation. Your sealed with the Holy Spirit unto the day of redemption.
Amen. Right on. How can we call ourselves "children of God" and behave like the devil?
The only thing i would add is that we forfeit being sons upon walking away. Also for the less informed, believe encompasses faith and obedience, not merely intellectual ascent. In james 2:24 Abrahams works complete his faith and this is accounted as believe. Not everyone who says LORD LORD will enter the kingdom only the one who "DOES THE WILL OF MY FATHER IN HEAVEN"
Great points. To add to that simon magus believed but was not saved.
@@TheSoulWinnersGuide well said, because his deeds were evil. obviously he believed since he asked for the power they had but with the wrong intentions.
Of course. I suppose you are the only one who will enter then.
Legalism!
@@LarzGustafsson john 15:10 john 15:14 hebrews 5:9. Matthew 5:48. 1 john 2:1. 1 john 3:6-9 romans 6. John 14:15. James 2:24. The bible teaches works, but not works of old cov law, the works of the Spirit. 1 corinthians 9:21 Paul literally says He is under the law of Christ, but free from old cov law. This links to john 2:24
Amen, let’s tell the entire truth do there’s no confusion
I pray that those who latch on to the error that one cannot lose his salvation would listen very carefully to Bro Bernard on this subject. Unconditional Security is a very dangerous idea that is leading many souls into Hell. The Word is relentlessly speaking of the falling away. So please brethren, believe the “Word” .
Gbu Dr
True and Acceptable doctrine ,to me 🙏
Thank you for this!
It blows my mind how many people DON’T believe in once saved always saved. It’s truly sad how many of these so called preachers pervert the word of God. If salvation is eternal then how can you lose it? That’s just so simple to believe that even a child can understand. Anything other than faith and belief ALONE in Jesus Christ and what he did on the cross for YOUR sins is WORKS SALVATION. God says we are saved by grace and not of works lest we should boast. If you don’t believe in OSAS then you’re not saved at all.
Amen and Maranatha.
Acts2:38
Acts2:38
@@Whololyo What about it?
So you can only obtain salvation by faith (and not by any works) as a free gift because of the perfect sacrifice of Jesus, but you can lose it by your actions? How is His sacrifice any different from the old testament sacrifices if sin can then take me away?
Nobody can make themselves unborn. It's irreversible
Someone said to me years ago (they were quoting from their pastor) : 'there are two groups of people, unsaved sinners and saved sinners) and they were boasting of this to me while drinking a case of beer! I said nothing at the time because I did not want to dispute with a drunk, but the whole situation grieved my heart. This is a very good, SOUND teaching on the subject and I pray ALL of us heed it !
That was great and well said!
How much messing up(sinning) does it take to lose your salvation? That's a very fundamental question. Is doing one thing wrong. Maybe it's doing 2 things wrong. Maybe it's doing 5 things wrong. Maybe it's doing 10 things wrong. Maybe it's doing the same thing 10 times. Or is it only public stuff or can it be private stuff? I don't do anything publicly wrong I just got a messed up mind. I mean my every thought is a wicked thought but I don't fulfill it, I just think about it all day long. It that enough for me to lose the free gift or Salvation?
How do we apply 2tim 2:15 in our study as Paul says ..??? Divide the scripture
Another good video on this I saw is called: "Follow The Lamb Today Paradise Lost"
Does anyone know where I can send a question to be answered by Pastor Bernard?
He is on Facebook messenger.
Thank you
Thanks for debate. I'm Pentecostal and I was not taught, or did not infer from sermons that salvation is eternal. When I came across an article teaching permanence of salvation I was taken aback. I'm not controversial but I believe in eternal security. I find it contradictory that there is assurance of salvation and that salvation is eternal yet there is no eternal security. If that is the case then, it is either salvation is not eternal or its the residency in a believer. I use "assurance" to mean being assured of going to heaven immediately after getting saved or long before death, considering one can sin at some point and die before saying sorry. Again, is it every sin that takes away salvation or not? If yes, we can say noone remains saved throughout because of "small" besetting sins. There is a level of wickedness a person, if really saved, can not descend to. The Pentecostal movement teaches conditional security and to me this means while only Jesus saves a sinner, remaining saved depends on the believer for the Lord is immutable and dependable. It is a matter of life and death that can crush souls with anxiety. It should be taught with utmost adherence to scripture, avoiding denominational biases. I since shed hidden (one I did not admit openly) fear or anxiety and I admire Jesus more, with desire for sinful pleasure suppressed more. Work on for the Lord.
This is well articulated. I, too, was plagued with the anxiety of measuring up to salvation, which in itself is works based salvation, also known as legalism. When I realized that I could not have faith in the work of the cross [for me] if I also believed that it was still up to me to perform it. This legalistic doctrine/reformational point of view is pushed for that very purpose, i.e., to be of a point of view.
At the point of my choosing to put my righteousness in Chirst alone, I also became more confident in my Christian walk instead of cowering to my flesh, which always reminds us that we are not good enough.
I mean, just think about this, Paul wrote, anyone who doesn't have the Spirit of God is none of His and that those who are led by Spirit are the sons of God. One says "led" is the condition, while the other says "have" is the condition. We could try to dig out a difference between the two, but my point is to say that it's all about the Holy Spirit. Not the letter. Faith in the letter killeth, it always has, but the Spirit gives life.
What would you say ti those that say if you fall away from God you never was saved in the beginning?
I am witnessing to a gentleman that believes eternal salvation but he also believes in obedience to Gods word.
His thoughts are as I said if someone backslides they never was really saved.
To God be all the glory. Soo blessed by your discussion Rev. David Bernard.
Having obtained for us Eternal redemption...
I have always been scared of Matthew 7:21-23.
Please, elaborate.
Could you give us a reason why these verses make you scared? This is only speaking to the people that call themselves Christians but they are only Christian in name only and have never become a True Christian. I would be glad to have a dialog with you if you should choose to do so. I always have a heart for those that have concern of their Salvation because it really does not have to be that way.
Faith and sins are enemy of each other a believer cannot have both at the same time
Amen brother confess repent walk a holy life
Please do a video on repentance
Amen
Thank you Dr. Bernard Glory to our Heavenly Father 🙏 I will walk in faith
What about a saint of God who had obeyed the Acts 2:38 message and experienced it then backslid, are you saying they can't repent on their deathbed?
Great explanation. Glory be to God.
That was an explanation that actually gives glory to man for making it to heaven and not backsliding.
2 Timothy 2:13 "If we believe not, yet he abideth faithful: he cannot deny himself."
The verse before says “if we deny Him, He will deny us”
@@tyler9_10 Yes, he is speaking of eternal rewards not salvation. If that were the true interpretation than the apostal Peter is in hell having denied Jesus three times.
Thanks for this. When this discussion comes up, I wonder why Coll 1:23 is not often brought up when the discussion about eternal salvation comes up. I think that scriptures clearly mentions here that we alhave a relationship to continue in faith. Once saved always saved is indeed not biblical. It is possible to make a choice to walk away from relationship with God.
Most all seminaries fail to teach Matt 15:25 and Matt 10:88. The gospels are to Jews only, if you believe Jesus. Romans 16: 25&26 says God had a diiferent plan than
"Without the first century church"? Paul said that if anybody teach a gospel other than what I teach, let him be anathema, accursed.
This was really on spot!!!
Agrees 👍 with Bro Bernard
Believing you can lose, your salvation is the same thing as working your way to heaven.
Exactly brother one saved always saved. this only can understand by Holly spirit otherwise we can't .
Blessed
Why do the scriptures say to work out your salvation with FEAR AND TREMBLING if there is no chance that we may not obtain it. If we don't work out our salvation then we will not have it.
@@breadoflife2075 work out, not work for
You are not losing it, you are rejecting it. It is a personal choice to walk in the light or skulk in the darkness believing you can live like hell and be welcomed into heaven.
If we can’t earn our salvation through works, how do we keep our salvation through works?
According to scripture if we walk away we never really belonged to him. Therefore we absolutely unequivocally cannot lose our salvation.
Amen!!!!!!!!!!!
We CANNOT lose what God has given us. Philippians 1:6:
He who began a good work in you (saved you) WILL BRING IT TO COMPLETION until the day of Christ Jesus.
Robert Breaker has a great video where he shows scripture by scripture, why it is impossible to lose your salvation if truly born again.
I sure hope your eyes are opened one day before it’s to late
In fact, some denominations/religions get a lot of mileage (i.e. Money) out of Salvation insecurity. Because when you keep people from knowing that they are eternally secured, you can control them.
For As long as you can keep people from knowing that nothing can separate them from their relationship with God through Christ Jesus (Romans 8:35 ~39), you can get them to do a lot of things that if they don't do it, they might lose their salvation.
Hallelujah
This teaching is confusing. When or how much can never be answered. How perfect do we need to live? What if I commit major sin and die and cannot ask forgiveness? The only interpretation that makes any sense and brings the gospel together is eternal salvation. The saved know they are saved. Faith is trust and belief that Jesus saved you. Not knowing this is a life of doubt and confusion. The witnessed words from Christ said he will raise you on the last day and give you eternal life for all who believe. This man is exactly right that we still have free will to sin which is inevitable... however we all still must reap what we sow. They are warnings to walk in the spirit after salvation and not the flesh. Continuing in the flesh leads to curses and punishment in this life and the next but you are still saved as Jesus promised. Hope this helps 🙏
@John F, don't want to leave the prophets out as they are also part of the foundation. In Luke 24:43-46, he opened the disciples understanding of the O.T. and how it spake of him. The N.T. also states the O.T. is our school master to bring us to Christ. We can see a type or shadow of what's to come in the crossing of the Red sea as water baptism and on the other side the cloud to lead during the day and pillar of fire by night as the Holy Ghost and fire promised in N.T. Noah and his family being saved by a figure of water baptism 1 Peter 3:20-21. BTW, everyone outside the boat died and went to hell so if Noah decided at the last minute to not get in the boat (kind of like Paul being a castaway) would he be saved. Again, no one outside the boat was saved. Noah would of been lost too. Why? Disobedience, rebellion or whatever you want to call it. Eternal salvation doctrine or Jesus Christ doctrine which he gave to the apostles to preach and built new Jerusalem on their foundation? Hmmm...It's the eternal salvation doctrine that fails to stand up to the light of God's word.
David Pawson had plenty to say on this as well… he wrote a book called “One Saved Always Saved?”
We cannot walk away from the relationship that ones began with us entering, consciously, with faith in Jesus, into the new testament with God. The only condition is faith. No way back is forseen. And nobody wants it, neither God nor man, who becomes saved/newborned as a result of it. It is perfectly seen in Jeremiah 32:40. And because of the new condition/nature of the saved man he begins to hate sin and to fight it. In contrast to the carnal unsaved man, who hasn't started these relationships with God, he has a continuous pleasure of doing sinful things and nothing bothers him.
Hello brother Bernard, God continue to bless you, brother I would like to know if you have knowledge about:
-Arguments that say about more than one divine person that some have drawn by "the two powers in the sky of the second temple"
-The opinion on the book of Enoch or if the sons of God from the time of Noah were watchful angels who had sexual relations with women and engendered nephilim or giants who became demons when they died in the flood and that is related to the heroes and gods of the pagan religions of the time or is it just jewish mythology and if there are other options apart from the book of Enoch or if there are alternative interpretations of the passage of Genesis?
When we fall sick we go to the doctor & he gives us medicine to get well but do we continue till we are totally healed not always hope you understand what i am trying to reveal.
🙋❤️❤️❤️👉📖🙏🙏🙏god bless🙏
Pastor JD FARAG said God told him if you can be confused, you're not going!
Matthew 7:
22. “Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?”
23. “And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.”
Of course.the deal is he who endures at the end will be save but it depends on the kind of belief or doctrine you hold.it must be all bible base.not just faith alone but faith and works.this two will save
Just faith along, the works that are described is your obedience to that faith. Living a life that’s pleasing to God. Confession and believing is what brings salvation. Romans 10:9
There is no such thing as once saved always saved. It is written, in (Col.1:23) if you continue in the faith. It is written, let no man take thy crown, because it can be taken. It is written, make your election sure, because it is not sure. It is written, if you hate your brother, you don't have eternal life abiding in you. It is written, the 5 foolish virgins had oil, the Holy Spirit, but ran out of oil and were left behind.
It is written, the trial of our faith is more prescious than gold that perishes, but after we have been tried, we'll receive a crown of life. He that finishes the race, obtains the prize, a crown that fadeth not away. He that endureth to the end, shall be saved. We must live in righteousness and holiness. God takes no pleasure in them that draw back and return to their vomit.
I'm so thankful that our Lord would not "disinherit" a wayward son as David Bernard said he would with his son.
read the prodigal son. what part did you play in your salvation? did you earn your salvation? can you save yourself with your good works? are you trusting in Christ alone? when someone is saved can God lose them? is there someone more powerful than God who can takeaway your salvation? what does it mean to love someone unconditionally?
If the righteous are scarcely saved where does that leave the ungodly and sinner, few there be that find it, will there be any faithful when I return, and one that’s often overlooked is the net parable in Matt 13. The angels pulling out the bad fish from within the net (kingdom/church).
It really blessed me as I've been pondering on the the subject that " Once saved by faith could be not be saved if we by ourselves walk away from the love of God ; even though God will always be loving us still but won't force us to Himself ".
Thank you Sir for sharing on this subject!❤🙏
Can I have a chance to ask? shall any man who died but never had a chance to hear the word of God even once, shall they be saved? is there any chance for them to be saved? is it situational?
2Co 4:3 But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost:
- Even if you’ve never heard the gospel you’ll still be lost. But if you are sincerely searching for truth God will send a messenger of the covenant. (Acts 10) God sent a preacher to Cornelius, (Acts 8) God sent a preacher to the Ethiopian, (Acts 9) God sent Ananias to Paul. There are no exceptions to the requirement of a new birth (Joh 3:5).
You'll be judged according on what u know and what u did, its up to Jesus.
Bring me just one true born again believer that will eventually want to walk away from God and eternal life..... Bring me just one....
I would like to see one to
So when you accept Christ as your God the savior, you mean there was no sealing of the Holy Spirit?
Ephesians 1:13
Thank you for your teachings on podcast Rev Bernard. I use them so much when witnessing
Do u beilve Jesus Christ will ever ,,un ,,, redeem his own DOES JESUS SAY IN THE BOOK OFJOHN CH 3 VS 16 I GIVE ETERNAL LIFE TO THEM THAT KEEP BELIVING IN ME ? OSAS IS VERY TRUE OR JESUS CHRIST IS A LIAR
Hebrews, 5:9
HE is the AUTHOR of eternal salvation to all those obeying HIM
I've also had this debate with people who believe "once saved, always saved". I believe a person CAN detach themselves from the Lord to which they no longer have the benefit of salvation. I believe God does give us the option. I don't believe once we are saved, we are FORCED to remain in salvation until death. Being a Christian is having a personal & intimate relationship with the Lord. If you ignore it, starve it, neglect it, walk away from it, etc..., you no longer have those benefits.
I believe that as well. Once saved always saved only applies to true Christian believers, a title only God knows in the end. We as believers have faith that in the end after enduring and fighting the battle of faith we will emerge victorious with Him.
That's why I get my teeth cleaned every 6 months, I want to keep them.
@@paparoevlogs2524 There is no such thing. Completely unscriptural.
@@paparoevlogs2524Very accurate. I believe the same too.
@@paparoevlogs2524Ephesians 1:13-14
King James Version
13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,
14 Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory.
Yes.
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I like this vs. so much because it is so explicit in it's message... I will attempt to break it down in regard to it's verbs..from the original Greek text...The vs. says ,Believe on the lord Jesus Christ ,and thou shalt be saved....Believe is the main verb...it is a aorist active ,imperative of the greek verb Pistos ,to believe. The aorist tense is a point of time that you believe. This is a special aorist tense that takes this point of time and perpetuates it into infinity..The active voice ,the subject ,produces the action of the verb,you believe. The imperative mood is a command. Saved is sozo, a perfect passive participle .A participle is an auxiliary verb that supports the main verb..The perfect tense show a completed action. The passive voice unlike the active voice ,says the subject (the one believing in Christ)receives the action of the verb rather than producing this action...In this case he receives salvation. So based on the original text The vs.is more accurately translated. Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and at that moment ,you are saved for ever and ever..Period over and out
You have to remember the parables of the goats and sheep and the sower among others
So greatly explained. Love hearing Brother Bernard explaining the Bible.. The Holy Word of God. Thank you very much. God bless!
I am so Thankful that my God says that we have Eternal life if we put our trust in Jesus that He died for me. My God did not die for me to have to be worrying all the time or at the moment of me dying, did I miss a sin that I did and forgot to ask God to forgive me and that I am sorry. This is why He tells the true Christian that the work was finished at the Cross. My Bible makes it clear that even a foolish thought is a sin. Now someone please tell me how we have control of a foolish thought, and this happens at the moment I have a Heart attack and I die? Do you then believe that I will be going to the place of burning if I was unable to confess that sin?
I have a question where do you find the comfort in a church I live in Fort Lauderdale I always seem to be reminded of my past life as me being a lesbian. Why is it they can just let me find my way I read my Bible but yet I always seem to be after the sermon I always say about gays and lesbians and I just want to feel comfortable I just want to read like I do I've learned a lot about God and his son and the Holy Spirit. God let him rest in peace dr. Charles Stanley In Touch Ministry and a few others listen to. I want time I used to study with Jehovah Witnesses, even even though I've learned a lot about the Bible. I have prayed from the time I remember my sins until now that I'm 63. I just want to know why when I try to go to church it seems like they don't let you forget your towel or like I stated that's the only sin in the world.
Where does it say in the Bible that smoking is a sin?
U r destroying your lungs . Take it from me I used to smoke and I can't breathe.
Relationship and fellowship are different. You can change fellowship but not relationship
You can't lose what you never had. If you lost the joy of your salvation, come home.
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Blatant falsehood in direct contradiction of scripture. Contradicts Hebrews 6 and the principle of the mark of the beast.
Also, the prodigal son never physically died.
OSAS is of sinful men not God.
@@wrongfullyaccused7139 David had Uriah killed, felt horrible about it, the psalm says restore to me the joy of your salvation. God forgave him, but didn't exempt him of the consequences. So, what else are you wrong about?
@@patrickmccarthy7877 : I am not wrong about anything I have stated regarding the blasphemy of OSAS!
I am also not wrong about neither Hebrews 6 NOR am I wrong about the mark of the beast in Revelation which you have not studied at all-fraud.
Furthermore, there was NO salvation as we know when David sinned because the blood of Jesus had not yet been shed at Calvary.
You don't even know how to study about the mark of the beast because it has not yet dawned on you that no one is born saved. Had you spent ten minutes in meditation over that you would have fallen to your knees and begged God to forgive you for your gross scriptural error.
Once saved always saved is a doctrine of evil, sinful men, not God.
You also conveniently overlooked the fact that the prodigal son never physically died in the parable.
Something the OSAS morally bankrupt individuals will never study.
OSAS is complete blasphemy.
Which why its adherent like you refuse to honestly study the word and all scripture that proves it is false.
@@wrongfullyaccused7139 Once saved always saved means if you are truly saved you can never walk away, if you can walk away it means you werent actually saved. It never says oh im saved and i can sin as much as i want, no one who is actually born again can turn away complety, you can stray away but God will keep calling you and you will feel and come back
2 Peter 2:20-22
“For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning.”
“For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them.”
“But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire.”
The word "saved" is a PAST TENSE. It has been DONE. To say it can be un-done is to say God made a MISTAKE for only God can do the saving. We are saved through faith by the BRACE of Gos APART from WORKS lest any man should boast.
Thank you podcast team and Rev Bernard for responding about eternal security or eternal assurance rather😊☺️
So I want to ask, so I can have assurance if I died before confessing for something let’s say I died quickly in an accident.
Hebrews 6, and 10 is very clear, without anyone debating scripture.
I am in agreement with you that one can lose their salvation. But the book of Hebrews was written to the early church Jewish believers who were considering going back to the old works of the Law. It is not referring to someone who has either backslidden, because we know in Scripture that backsliders have the opportunity to return to the Father’s house. This is the beauty of the grace of God. No one is or will ever be perfect, which is why we must continue in Christ, as reverend Bernard says, for the remainder of our lives.
Short answer: yes
@eric yes that's right Eric, thanks for confirming what I said. Here is another example of when the new way of salvation started: Peter was with Jesus from the beginning of Jesus' ministry so it would seem that if anyone was saved it would be him and the other disciples right? He/they saw all Jesus did and believed. They even cast out devils and healed the sick as recorded in the gospels right? So surely they were already saved right? NO, wrong. Jesus explicitly tells Peter to strengthen the brethren when he is converted. What, Peter still needed to be converted? Yes he did and he was when the Holy Ghost came as a rushing might wind on the Day of Pentecost and the 120 were filled with the Holy Ghost and spoke with other tongues as the spirit gave utterance. Yes Peter had repented and was baptized in Jesus name and living a godly life but still needed to be converted by receiving the baptism of the spirit just like Jesus told Nicodemus in John 3:3-8, you must be born of water and spirit. While the New Testament starts with the gospels the new plan of salvation did not come into effect until after the testator died/risen and the Holy Ghost given out on Day of Pentecost. If Peter, John and the other disciples were not saved with all they did, saw and believed, what makes people think they will be saved today without the same experience? Acts 2:38-39. I'll leave readers to search out "converted" scripture about Peter.
People who think they are "saved" because they claim to be Christians are sadly mistaken. The only Christians who are given salvation as a free gift are the 144,000! Any other teaching is a lie, those first century Christians were ALL members of the 144,000, chosen personally by Almighty God, baptized and ANOINTED with Holy Spirit.
They are the ONLY humans who will be taken to Heaven as Kings and Priests in Christ's Kingdom!
@@djparsons7363 whosoever will make come drink freely if the water if life. Those are the words of the Lord Jesus Christ. He died for the sins of the whole world is also in the bible.
@@rayroberts8487 That says nothing about salvation. The 144,000 are guaranteed salvation but the billions who will live on earth are NOT. People are incorrectly told you're going to Heaven if you're a Christian. WRONG!
Jesus said those who would receive the Kingdom are a "little flock" meaning a small limited number. (Luke 12:32)
During the millennium, those who are resurrected will take in 'water's of life", instructions from the new scrolls that will help them advance to perfection. When they pass the final test, THEN they will have salvation.
@@djparsons7363 so be it unto you, good luck with your own salvation.
@@rayroberts8487 You said yourself Peter and the 120 disciples received salvation when they were anointed with Holy Spirit at Pentecost. That's the difference, the ANOINTING with Holy Spirit that only the 144,000 receive and all those first century Christians were part of that group. No one else is ANOINTED with Holy Spirit.