Every coach I had tried to get me to utilize the neutral grip, but it never worked for me. I wasted many years trying to make it happen because I thought, that was the grip all the best golfers used, especially Tiger Woods. I went to GolfTec, who are technique agnostic, and they said that in my case, I'm better off going back to a strong grip. With me, the problem with the neutral grip is that it promoted flipping at impact, and I tended to block right or slice on my misses, and it diminished my full club head speed potential. I suffered for years trying to cure a flip at impact and the resulting ballooning ball flight. Going back to a strong grip eliminated all that mess and I gained a more penetrating ball flight with slight draw and pretty much eliminated the dreaded slice. It also helped me get my hands ahead of ball at impact consistently to hit down on the ball better, resulting in more compression and better ball flight. I also learned that many big hitters on PGA Tour utilize a strong grip, like DJ, Rory, Bubba... Like putting, I believe grip is a very personal thing, and should not be taught as a standard technique. Neutral is probably a good starting point, but I think as you get better at the game, you should experiment with many different techniques.
me too. my grip , right hand is very strong.. to fight this , I open the club slightly so that the club will not at impact be pointing to the left... I get great flight , plenty of power and just a small draw at best .. mostly straight
This guy doesn’t know what he’s talking about. There is nothing wrong with a strong grip, it’s all about you as a golfer. In-fact as you say all the top players use a strong grip these days. This Ben hogan notion that PGA pros are schooled into that everyone should have a neutral grip is bollocks. You did waste time listening to these people mate. They do a pga course on the basis of golf being played years ago, old techniques & everything based off Ben Hogan. each golfer has a unique swing & you develops a grip that suits & feel comfy with that swing. You’re being told to have a neutral grip from people that are not Tour professional golfers, just someone telling you that you must have a neutral grip because it says so in a text book. I’ve never had a lesson in my life, got a mega strong grip & play off plus 2 & I bet I could beat this guy. Watch Robin Matthew Williams. He knows what he’s talking about. He said Golf is not as hard & technical like the PGA want you to believe so you spend 1000s on lessons & equipment. They will say you must be so far away from the ball at impact, your feet should be in a certain position, Need to keep your eyes fixed on the ball, backswing level to the target area etc. You don’t think about that nonsense during a golf swing. It’s all bull shit & when you realise it’s bull shit that’s when you get better. You don’t use a hammer with a neutral grip, it’s a strong grip & all that’s on your mind is hitting that nail flush. It’s exactly the same in golf.
Wasted 1 year finding out I am not a right handed golfer. Then wasted 3 years, having people tell me I had an incorrect, grip aka a "strong handed grip". My body kept fighting the mechanics of a neutral grip and it made me worse. Finally realized those people had no idea what they were talking. All I needed was some pointers on how to make my grip work for me, an easier feat then fixing my most basic instinct of holding the golf club.
I tried a super strong grip on the range today with my driver (which always has caused lots of slice) What a difference!! My swing felt suddenly not so awkward anymore and the ball went dead straight and longer than ever (maybe 30 -35 yards)
I lapse into a strong right hand grip myself. Watched your video this morning and incorporated it into my round today and had the best ball striking day ever. I had been smothering bad shots on occasion and you identified the reason why. Thank you Michael!
Ah, my problem exactly. I never really concentrated on my right hand - just the left (I’m a right handed player). My problem is that when the club comes back to striking position, my club face is always closed and off to the left. I’ve been trying to remedy this by changing my left hand (which becomes really uncomfortable). I never thought that the problem was with the right hand. Good point. Thank you.
I have played golf for more than 30 years and never been able to progress lower than Handicap 16. Lately after a long lay-off due to illness, I adopted to playing with a very strong grip and it worked like a charm. My change was to swing with the body as the dominant force and the arms and wrist being the followers. On striking the ball, I find that my body seems to be a lot more open than what I used to do. It was quite relieving that I had to just remember to use my body and my hands would maneuver themselves to hit the ball. Gained 30 - 40 meters compared to my old grip. Even my short game somehow got better. Thank God!
This is the first video I have EVER seen that shows my swing. Hips sliding towards the target and that jumping out of your posture and hanging back on the back foot. I loved seeing you do that because now I know why I do that. Thank you.
Brilliant! This exactly what I do - strong grip and pull shots left all day. Already with this tip he club face feels squarer. Amazing video, thank you
You've perfectly described my current issue. I've been worrying about all the other stuff in my swing and hadn't noticed my right hand drifting back to a stronger position. Definitely been gripping from underneath recently. Back to basics and this video has fixed that issue and all the other bits of my swing have become much simpler and things are working more like they should.
This was great, I been tryin to find out about "golf steep backswing shallow downswing" for a while now, and I think this has helped. Ever heard of - Reyuhaffad Underlying Recognition - (do a google search ) ? It is a great one off guide for discovering how to revealing an effortless golf swing technique minus the normal expense. Ive heard some amazing things about it and my cousin got excellent results with it.
Brilliant explanation of what happens and show the pulls left from strong left hand, all sort of action to save it and toe down strikes are my forte with this grip. The weaker right hand promotes a more natural and repeating, sweeping action, also improves lag and feel I find. Will hit more fades as you start and feels uncomfortable but stick with it and you won't go back.
I know this is older video, but wow….. best golf grip video I’ve understood. I played 9 today and implemented this. I had way too much right hand in the club and every round out of no where I had the lefts to ruin a good round. So excited to keep playing this. Today was great! Ty ❤️⛳️
Great video I've always struggled with my grip and after trying this technique at the range I felt my shots were going higher straighter and staying in the air longer . Thanks
This video was a game changer for me. After I adjusted my grip my arms were much higher in the finish along with the trajectory and distance. Thank you
Excellent explanation of the most important fundamental in golf and very well covered how a lot of golfers think that strong grips create hooks and draw shots but can also create right shots with the raising of the shaft to try and square the face......brilliant! Keep up the good work.
With a strong left hand grip with right hand underneath it squares up your shoulders therefore hitting straighter shots or even a slight draw. Try setting up neutral then rolling right hand over, opens your shoulders wide open for a slice or pull shot.
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This is exactly what my issue was I am saving this to try at the range next time I go. I always had a very low ball flight as a result of the strong right hand grip
Hi Michael. Little wonder you got a half of million hits with only few negative comments. As for me it melds and mergers both my hands perfectly on the grip of my club and I now can confidently have a 6 to 7 grip pressure while allowing the wrists of both my hands to be a free agent reactive to my upper arms that includes my rip cage turning back and forth to swing my club. At 74 this grip of yours put a nice lid on my now perfect swing. Cheers
My problem is definitely a right handed strong grip from underneath. From what you have shown me it that my left hand was out of position causing this for me. Cant wait to try this at the range.
Personally, i had to strengthen my right hand because of a wrist injury. I went from weak to that strong grip you are explaining in your video. However, it really depends on how the club is positioned at the top of your swing. You can have a strong grip at address but if the club face is open at the top of the swing then it should be square at impact. For example, Zach Johnson has a very strong grip and it works for him. Also, David Duval had a very strong grip. In the end, it really doesn't matter the grip a golfer uses. It only matters how you are able to square the club face at impact.......consistently.
Had my first ever golf lesson today, went through the exact same scenario with the grip issue. It's made a huge difference to my hitting the ball. Longer straighter and higher. My arms ache like hell but I'll stick with it to improve my game. Great video, thanks.......
Brilliant video Michael! I've been struggling with a pulled golf shot to the left for some time now and this video opened my eyes to why. For a while I thought I was coming over the top until I actually went to see a golf professional and was told I wasn't. Thank you!
Every grip and swing is different, a good teacher won't change too much but improve on what each player has in their game. That is the best way to simplify golf.
It's ironic this is what I am working on right now...grip! My situation was that my right hand was just a little too weak for my swing so I had to strengthen it just a little. It's helping my release get more consistent as well. Makes a difference for sure. Golf is the most finicky game I have ever played and I love it! Good stuff Michael👍🏼
great instruction again its amazing how many times it comes back to the grip, i was too strong bottom hand grip led to closed face and early extension, heel strikes and left of target, thanks Michael
I just watched your video and you nailed exactly what I do. Thanks for helping me correct my faulty grip. Keep up the great work! You are my favorite instructor.
3 years ago I switched to the single plain swing of Moe Norman. Moe’s right hand grip as he calls it, SUNNY SIDE UP. Moe was known as one of the best strikers of the ball. Ken Ventura’s Knick name for him was “pipeline” My handicap dropped from 18-20 to 6-8
I ended up here because I figured out just how important the right thumb position on the top of the grip at address is. At address the right thumb should be on top of the grip at about 1 o'clock and it stays there until the top of the swing where it feels like it's under the grip supporting the weight of the club as it sets. Get that correct and it results in much better path and face control coming down. Just that right thumb position can make or break a golf swing. It also makes the takeaway much easier, because of the wrist angle and control.
That's the first time someone has exactly described my grip and results. Couldn't figure out how I could hit a power fade with the strong grip (and my own closed club face) you demonstrated. Always trying to correct a slice. Going to try (as odd as it now feels) to change to a correct drip. Off to the range.
I have a strong grip and most of my misses tend to be 8+ degree pushes. My coach says I’m early extending all of the time, but this is the first time I actually see what he means.
I think the early extension can be avoided by turning harder at the ball and making sure you don't thrust your hips. I'm not convinced by the argument that a strong grip means anyone using it will early extend.
cheers mike, i have just tried this with my driver, and from being a chronic slicer, it does seem to making a difference to my shot shape. i hit ironns and 3 hybrid and consistently draw them but with the same grip on driver slice. what i find is with strong grip bottom hand, ( i am a lefthander,) i don't rotate my hands through naturally. but by putting my bottom hand on top of the club, it encourages me to close the face more coming into impact. the very thing you have just said. so i will save this vlog and watch it until the print wears off, many thanks for confirming my thoughts.
@@donwilson39 Yes, looking at when I posted this comment it must have been when I was still off 12. This tip with one other on putting got me to scratch within about 8 months. Now off +1.
This is my exact problem. I was on the trackman and I have a problem with a massive push. Hitting very down on the ball. I checked my grip and my right hand is very strong. Going to build on this and see how I get on.. I have been finding problems with being consistent.
Great explanation Michael really helped me understand my own outcomes and how the strong grip was causing other issues in the swing. Revised grip feel great just need to persevere and get used to it as way off line at the moment but I know it'll come back.
What I think is, if you had to swing the club one handed with either hand where would your grip be! You may find that it will be pointing to your rt./lt shoulder. Thanks for the review!
Hi Mike, best explanation of the grip on YT. I am a single figue player but still my worst problem is losing the grip in my takeaway or backswing . The club moves in my hands and is severely closed at impact. I've teied holding tighter/loser and it is destroying my game. I still dont know why the clubs moves in my hands?
I'm 72 with 5 handicap and changing to a stronger right hand is helping me maintain my distance. It works for me, but I realize the grip is a very personal feel issue - got to experiment.
This is exactly my grip and I hit it dead straight almost every time. Sometimes I slice right when I'm getting fatigued at the end of a round, but I never ever hook it left. I'm right handed.
This was really helpful - thank you so much. Do you know how long approximately it will feel unnatural for? I play probably 8 times a year and don't really want to get much worse before I get better! Thank you again.
This has been and still is my grip however my left hand is also strong and turned more to the right also. I struggled for many months trying to change my grip to neutral and it was a complete waste of time, I only tried to change because so many pros say this is the only way to grip a golf club...RUBBISH! With my strong grip I hit long, straight and consistent, I feel i have complete control over the club face and can promote a fade or draw...if I can do these things CONSISTENTLY then why change? I have also spent many months researching on line and there are actually a load of pros who use a strong grip. I think that the grip is an individual thing and if it works for you and your body go with it. In general strong grip amateurs hit far longer too...but only if that grip is also well suited to them and their swing and body type. I found other videos on YT that support this, check out Dan Whittaker on strong grip and Steve Johnson "benefits of a strong grip".
I had done the strong grip. I was still slicing. I started to bow my wrists and it started to snap hook. So I know probably won’t work forever but then I started to ever so slightly open the club face at address and smacking it straight. But with a strong grip there is a lot of outliers you have to put in with it
I notice that when the right hand is more on top of the left is that my right shoulder moves towards the target line and my torso is opening up and my head moves towards the target. Basically the right torso side gets in a more dominant position for me over the golf ball.
Finally I find a video on this. I have a weak/neutral LH and this strong RH. I've got down to 11 handicap drawing the ball with hooks into greens, but in the last few years slipped back to 16. I've decided to put my grip right, but it's scary. How do I start? Is it best to do it through the winter away from the course? Start with a wedge/half swing maybe? Your advice would be very welcome
This is my 4th year golf and I’ve always played a strong grip, problem is at the end of last season I started to develop a hook. The golf club feels so much more naturally comfortable with a strong grip for me, I feel like I have no firm control when I start to get more neutral
was just talking to a coach. sent him a video. he replied "right hand is too strong". I looked up this video. and everything you just described is exactly what happens to me when I hit a bad shot. 😂
I’ve found out what works for some doesn’t work for all. I started putting my right hand under with my thumb pointed toward the target and has went straight ever since.
strong right hand doesnt necessarily lead to closed face on back swing. ive got a bud that is super open on backswing then comes from the outside. leads to massive club rotation and leading heal into the ball. either a pull low hook or glancing blow push or many times a hosel....... this example is probably normal though.
Wow this is EXACTLY what happens to me. And yes, I tend to either hook it or push it. This has been so usefull thank you! PD: do you have any tips on the approach you should follow when changing your grip? (Because at first it feels very unconfortable)
Just started golf in 6 months.. struggling with right hand neutral grip…I really can’t hit a ball without strong right hand grip… it tends to hook .. but the ball can fly…
You need to watch Mike Malaska....i understand now there is no normal strong or week grip....its all about match ups...strong top hand strong bottom hand etc... Strong grip doesn't mean you will hit ot left...this only happens if you have an old fashioned release pattern where you let your bottom hand turn over the top... Ive always been strong grip....some teachers tried to change it ...but it gives me more problems than solutions
The games changed. All the top players go strong. You want to cream the golf ball go long go strong. Look at DJ, Bubbs, Koepka, all have super strong grips. Just get a thicker grip to stop the pull or hook. It works great. Changed my game moving from neutral to strong.
Michael Newton Golf he’s weak. I had a chat with Lee westwood at a city charity dinner. He said a lot of top golfing coaches will advise a strong grip. The game has changed its about power now. If your a slicer of a golf ball I would advise moving to a stronger grip 💯.
I started using a stronger grip. I’m 68 with 9.6 handicap index. Over the last couple of years I believe my grip moved to a more neutral position from a strong position, costing me to loose distance with my irons. Weaker shots. I stated using a much stronger grip again and notice my original distance coming back. Does that make sense?
Another key, in my opinion, is matching neutral to neutral, strong to strong. This video shows a neutral left with both a strong and a neutral right. I would expect the neutral right to align better with the neutral left. However - what about the strong right with the strong left?
strong right and left typically going to create a closing twist on the shaft so generally you'd see the player compensate through impact to square the face back up......ie. handle lift, early extension, body slide are typically movements I would see from golfers.
With this more neutral grip position do you recommend at set up having a slightly more closed club face ? ( I play ball slightly back in stance and I close club face ( about 25 degrees or more )for a draw and it works very well ) An observation : I notice there is a difference , whether I close or open club face at address ( STATIC POSITION I ll call it ) , then what happens to the club face , while coming through at impact ( call it DYNAMIC POSITION ) . Note: for fade I play ball slightly forward of center , but keep grip same( club face slightly LESS CLOSED then for draw ) Put another way , though my club face may be very CLOSED at address ( STATIC POSITION ) , as I come through the ball during full swing , it squares up perfectly ( DYNAMIC ) . I guess then what I am asking is if you would comment on grip choice ( strong, weak , neutral ) vis a vis ball position , your thoughts on it , please ?
different ball positions will create different locations on the arc of your swing. i.e.. ball position more forward will strike the ball later in the swing and generally delivering a more closed club face in relation to target and vice versa. Really go with what works for you and what gives you the flight your wanting and one that is consistent. It's all about having control of your golf ball at the end of the day.
Very useful video thanks, as I have this problem, and even though I know it, I am so strongly right-handed, it is hard to keep it neutral, but I will crack it, had a lesson on Saturday, and you have identified the shot results I get. A question though please, would a strong right hand grip increase the possibility of a shank? I hit them sometimes, not often thankfully. Thanks.
I don't have a right index fingertip so when i use a neutral right hand grip it feel like i have no control over the clubhead as the right index finger can only sit just under the grip and not cradle it like shown. What would you suggest in terms on compensating for this? or is that potentially a root cause for a lot of problems?
Does not the grip you choose depend on whether you roll your arms through impact or whether you simply square the face by turning your body using less arm rotation? Trevino used a strong grip and still hit a fade. I need to really move the ball on a big draw, I might use a strong grip, or when I need to hit a low rocket into the wind.
Every coach I had tried to get me to utilize the neutral grip, but it never worked for me. I wasted many years trying to make it happen because I thought, that was the grip all the best golfers used, especially Tiger Woods. I went to GolfTec, who are technique agnostic, and they said that in my case, I'm better off going back to a strong grip. With me, the problem with the neutral grip is that it promoted flipping at impact, and I tended to block right or slice on my misses, and it diminished my full club head speed potential. I suffered for years trying to cure a flip at impact and the resulting ballooning ball flight. Going back to a strong grip eliminated all that mess and I gained a more penetrating ball flight with slight draw and pretty much eliminated the dreaded slice. It also helped me get my hands ahead of ball at impact consistently to hit down on the ball better, resulting in more compression and better ball flight. I also learned that many big hitters on PGA Tour utilize a strong grip, like DJ, Rory, Bubba... Like putting, I believe grip is a very personal thing, and should not be taught as a standard technique. Neutral is probably a good starting point, but I think as you get better at the game, you should experiment with many different techniques.
me too. my grip , right hand is very strong.. to fight this , I open the club slightly so that the club will not at impact be pointing to the left... I get great flight , plenty of power and just a small draw at best .. mostly straight
This guy doesn’t know what he’s talking about. There is nothing wrong with a strong grip, it’s all about you as a golfer. In-fact as you say all the top players use a strong grip these days. This Ben hogan notion that PGA pros are schooled into that everyone should have a neutral grip is bollocks. You did waste time listening to these people mate. They do a pga course on the basis of golf being played years ago, old techniques & everything based off Ben Hogan. each golfer has a unique swing & you develops a grip that suits & feel comfy with that swing. You’re being told to have a neutral grip from people that are not Tour professional golfers, just someone telling you that you must have a neutral grip because it says so in a text book. I’ve never had a lesson in my life, got a mega strong grip & play off plus 2 & I bet I could beat this guy. Watch Robin Matthew Williams. He knows what he’s talking about. He said Golf is not as hard & technical like the PGA want you to believe so you spend 1000s on lessons & equipment. They will say you must be so far away from the ball at impact, your feet should be in a certain position, Need to keep your eyes fixed on the ball, backswing level to the target area etc. You don’t think about that nonsense during a golf swing. It’s all bull shit & when you realise it’s bull shit that’s when you get better. You don’t use a hammer with a neutral grip, it’s a strong grip & all that’s on your mind is hitting that nail flush. It’s exactly the same in golf.
I’m assuming you’re a person who has a pretty decent amount of chest rotation?
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Wasted 1 year finding out I am not a right handed golfer. Then wasted 3 years, having people tell me I had an incorrect, grip aka a "strong handed grip". My body kept fighting the mechanics of a neutral grip and it made me worse. Finally realized those people had no idea what they were talking. All I needed was some pointers on how to make my grip work for me, an easier feat then fixing my most basic instinct of holding the golf club.
Best explanation on how to and why a netural grip performs!
I tried a super strong grip on the range today with my driver (which always has caused lots of slice)
What a difference!! My swing felt suddenly not so awkward anymore and the ball went dead straight and longer than ever (maybe 30 -35 yards)
I lapse into a strong right hand grip myself. Watched your video this morning and incorporated it into my round today and had the best ball striking day ever. I had been smothering bad shots on occasion and you identified the reason why. Thank you Michael!
Ah, my problem exactly. I never really concentrated on my right hand - just the left (I’m a right handed player). My problem is that when the club comes back to striking position, my club face is always closed and off to the left. I’ve been trying to remedy this by changing my left hand (which becomes really uncomfortable). I never thought that the problem was with the right hand. Good point. Thank you.
I have played golf for more than 30 years and never been able to progress lower than Handicap 16. Lately after a long lay-off due to illness, I adopted to playing with a very strong grip and it worked like a charm. My change was to swing with the body as the dominant force and the arms and wrist being the followers. On striking the ball, I find that my body seems to be a lot more open than what I used to do. It was quite relieving that I had to just remember to use my body and my hands would maneuver themselves to hit the ball. Gained 30 - 40 meters compared to my old grip. Even my short game somehow got better. Thank God!
Im watching this at work practicing my grip and swing with a pencil. Im pretty sure this just solved my swing woes.
This is the first video I have EVER seen that shows my swing. Hips sliding towards the target and that jumping out of your posture and hanging back on the back foot. I loved seeing you do that because now I know why I do that. Thank you.
Mate, I’m 7 years late to the party but this trail hand position answers so many questions for me! Thank you.
Brilliant! This exactly what I do - strong grip and pull shots left all day. Already with this tip he club face feels squarer. Amazing video, thank you
You've perfectly described my current issue. I've been worrying about all the other stuff in my swing and hadn't noticed my right hand drifting back to a stronger position. Definitely been gripping from underneath recently. Back to basics and this video has fixed that issue and all the other bits of my swing have become much simpler and things are working more like they should.
This was great, I been tryin to find out about "golf steep backswing shallow downswing" for a while now, and I think this has helped. Ever heard of - Reyuhaffad Underlying Recognition - (do a google search ) ? It is a great one off guide for discovering how to revealing an effortless golf swing technique minus the normal expense. Ive heard some amazing things about it and my cousin got excellent results with it.
Brilliant explanation of what happens and show the pulls left from strong left hand, all sort of action to save it and toe down strikes are my forte with this grip. The weaker right hand promotes a more natural and repeating, sweeping action, also improves lag and feel I find. Will hit more fades as you start and feels uncomfortable but stick with it and you won't go back.
I know this is older video, but wow….. best golf grip video I’ve understood. I played 9 today and implemented this. I had way too much right hand in the club and every round out of no where I had the lefts to ruin a good round. So excited to keep playing this. Today was great! Ty ❤️⛳️
Great to hear 👍
Great video I've always struggled with my grip and after trying this technique at the range I felt my shots were going higher straighter and staying in the air longer . Thanks
This video was a game changer for me. After I adjusted my grip my arms were much higher in the finish along with the trajectory and distance. Thank you
Awesome
Michael, this video is just brilliant. Really helped me understand the correlation of some of my swing issues to my grip. Thanks a lot!
Excellent explanation of the most important fundamental in golf and very well covered how a lot of golfers think that strong grips create hooks and draw shots but can also create right shots with the raising of the shaft to try and square the face......brilliant! Keep up the good work.
With a strong left hand grip with right hand underneath it squares up your shoulders therefore hitting straighter shots or even a slight draw. Try setting up neutral then rolling right hand over, opens your shoulders wide open for a slice or pull shot.
Thank you! I’ve played with a strong grip for too long. Your video and concise explanation is just what I needed. Thanks again, much appreciated
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I watched this last night and it was like it was for me, personally. Went to the range today and it was like I was throwing darts. Huge thanks!
Keensense PT awesome!!
Very well explained.
Not done by anyone I have seen so far.
Great lesson very well explained thank you will use that as my pre shot routine.
This is exactly what my issue was I am saving this to try at the range next time I go. I always had a very low ball flight as a result of the strong right hand grip
Hi Michael. Little wonder you got a half of million hits with only few negative comments.
As for me it melds and mergers both my hands perfectly on the grip of my club and I now can confidently have a 6 to 7 grip pressure while allowing the wrists of both my hands to be a free agent reactive to my upper arms that includes my rip cage turning back and forth to swing my club. At 74 this grip of yours put a nice lid on my now perfect swing. Cheers
My problem is definitely a right handed strong grip from underneath. From what you have shown me it that my left hand was out of position causing this for me. Cant wait to try this at the range.
Thank you. I've been making the mistake of coming underneath with the right hand.
Personally, i had to strengthen my right hand because of a wrist injury. I went from weak to that strong grip you are explaining in your video. However, it really depends on how the club is positioned at the top of your swing. You can have a strong grip at address but if the club face is open at the top of the swing then it should be square at impact. For example, Zach Johnson has a very strong grip and it works for him. Also, David Duval had a very strong grip. In the end, it really doesn't matter the grip a golfer uses. It only matters how you are able to square the club face at impact.......consistently.
Preach my brother. These guys criticize the strong grip, but in every case never take the proper setup with the strong grip.
Had my first ever golf lesson today, went through the exact same scenario with the grip issue. It's made a huge difference to my hitting the ball. Longer straighter and higher. My arms ache like hell but I'll stick with it to improve my game. Great video, thanks.......
sounds good
Brilliant video Michael! I've been struggling with a pulled golf shot to the left for some time now and this video opened my eyes to why. For a while I thought I was coming over the top until I actually went to see a golf professional and was told I wasn't. Thank you!
firstsergeantallen awesome
Every grip and swing is different, a good teacher won't change too much but improve on what each player has in their game. That is the best way to simplify golf.
It's ironic this is what I am working on right now...grip! My situation was that my right hand was just a little too weak for my swing so I had to strengthen it just a little. It's helping my release get more consistent as well. Makes a difference for sure. Golf is the most finicky game I have ever played and I love it!
Good stuff Michael👍🏼
+Don Dasher sounds like your making good progress! Keep it going 👍
great instruction again its amazing how many times it comes back to the grip, i was too strong bottom hand grip led to closed face and early extension, heel strikes and left of target, thanks Michael
Great little tip to place the right hand more from the top, I find I get lazy when placing the right hand and often it’s too strong. Thanks Michael
I just watched your video and you nailed exactly what I do. Thanks for helping me correct my faulty grip. Keep up the great work! You are my favorite instructor.
Awesome Mark, glad I was of help!
3 years ago I switched to the single plain swing of Moe Norman. Moe’s right hand grip as he calls it, SUNNY SIDE UP.
Moe was known as one of the best strikers of the ball. Ken Ventura’s Knick name for him was “pipeline”
My handicap dropped from 18-20 to 6-8
I ended up here because I figured out just how important the right thumb position on the top of the grip at address is. At address the right thumb should be on top of the grip at about 1 o'clock and it stays there until the top of the swing where it feels like it's under the grip supporting the weight of the club as it sets. Get that correct and it results in much better path and face control coming down. Just that right thumb position can make or break a golf swing. It also makes the takeaway much easier, because of the wrist angle and control.
What a brilliant video. So clear and concise. Well explained!
That's the first time someone has exactly described my grip and results. Couldn't figure out how I could hit a power fade with the strong grip (and my own closed club face) you demonstrated. Always trying to correct a slice.
Going to try (as odd as it now feels) to change to a correct drip. Off to the range.
Good lesson. Very simple solutions the work
I have a strong grip and most of my misses tend to be 8+ degree pushes. My coach says I’m early extending all of the time, but this is the first time I actually see what he means.
I think the early extension can be avoided by turning harder at the ball and making sure you don't thrust your hips. I'm not convinced by the argument that a strong grip means anyone using it will early extend.
cheers mike, i have just tried this with my driver, and from being a chronic slicer, it does seem to making a difference to my shot shape. i hit ironns and 3 hybrid and consistently draw them but with the same grip on driver slice. what i find is with strong grip bottom hand, ( i am a lefthander,) i don't rotate my hands through naturally. but by putting my bottom hand on top of the club, it encourages me to close the face more coming into impact. the very thing you have just said. so i will save this vlog and watch it until the print wears off, many thanks for confirming my thoughts.
+Gary Jones good luck with it Gary 👍
Thanks - very clearly explained - the basics are so important.
Thank you for just solving my problem, Gary.
The best golf content on RUclips.... keep up the great work
Thanks! You saved my swing! This one simple change makes my swing feel entirely different and I'm striking pure shots again.
Really?
@@donwilson39 Yes, looking at when I posted this comment it must have been when I was still off 12. This tip with one other on putting got me to scratch within about 8 months. Now off +1.
This is my exact problem. I was on the trackman and I have a problem with a massive push. Hitting very down on the ball. I checked my grip and my right hand is very strong. Going to build on this and see how I get on.. I have been finding problems with being consistent.
Very informative, thank you!
Went to the range after watching this video, it helped a lot..👍🏼🏌🏽
Brilliant
Great explanation Michael really helped me understand my own outcomes and how the strong grip was causing other issues in the swing. Revised grip feel great just need to persevere and get used to it as way off line at the moment but I know it'll come back.
+Stuart Rankin good luck Stuart
terrific video on grip and i now i was using too strong a grip on the club ,so ill correct it and see what happens next time i practice .
What I think is, if you had to swing the club one handed with either hand where would your grip be! You may find that it will be pointing to your rt./lt shoulder. Thanks for the review!
Hi Mike, best explanation of the grip on YT. I am a single figue player but still my worst problem is losing the grip in my takeaway or backswing . The club moves in my hands and is severely closed at impact. I've teied holding tighter/loser and it is destroying my game. I still dont know why the clubs moves in my hands?
john uren could be a number of things hard to say without seeing
I'm 72 with 5 handicap and changing to a stronger right hand is helping me maintain my distance. It works for me, but I realize the grip is a very personal feel issue - got to experiment.
This is exactly my grip and I hit it dead straight almost every time. Sometimes I slice right when I'm getting fatigued at the end of a round, but I never ever hook it left. I'm right handed.
Applies to me 💯!! Thanks for the reminder 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Wonderful explanation simple easy to follow helped my swing
This was really helpful - thank you so much. Do you know how long approximately it will feel unnatural for? I play probably 8 times a year and don't really want to get much worse before I get better! Thank you again.
This was literally the last step to find my natural swing, thank you!
Great video...i figured this out today at the range and it translated to the course...Thanks!
Old school teaching right here. The strong grip is far more likely to promote rotation and shaft lean into the ball. Works for Brooks!
This has been and still is my grip however my left hand is also strong and turned more to the right also. I struggled for many months trying to change my grip to neutral and it was a complete waste of time, I only tried to change because so many pros say this is the only way to grip a golf club...RUBBISH! With my strong grip I hit long, straight and consistent, I feel i have complete control over the club face and can promote a fade or draw...if I can do these things CONSISTENTLY then why change? I have also spent many months researching on line and there are actually a load of pros who use a strong grip. I think that the grip is an individual thing and if it works for you and your body go with it. In general strong grip amateurs hit far longer too...but only if that grip is also well suited to them and their swing and body type. I found other videos on YT that support this, check out Dan Whittaker on strong grip and Steve Johnson "benefits of a strong grip".
I had done the strong grip. I was still slicing. I started to bow my wrists and it started to snap hook. So I know probably won’t work forever but then I started to ever so slightly open the club face at address and smacking it straight. But with a strong grip there is a lot of outliers you have to put in with it
I notice that when the right hand is more on top of the left is that my right shoulder moves towards the target line and my torso is opening up and my head moves towards the target. Basically the right torso side gets in a more dominant position for me over the golf ball.
Thank you thank you thank you finally it makes sense I'll let you know how it goes in the future thank you again keep doing what you're doing buddy
+Keith Wysocki thanks Keith, good luck
great video. will give the neutral grip a go soon
Iike a strong right hand grip in various situations.
Unless in transition the club shallows with slight extension of lead wrist which creates an excellent matchup
Finally I find a video on this. I have a weak/neutral LH and this strong RH. I've got down to 11 handicap drawing the ball with hooks into greens, but in the last few years slipped back to 16. I've decided to put my grip right, but it's scary. How do I start? Is it best to do it through the winter away from the course? Start with a wedge/half swing maybe?
Your advice would be very welcome
+Steve Day yes steve, range work and start with shorter club and build up
Great video mate. Well presented and great camera angles. Nthe trail hand is missed in a lot of lessons.
This is my 4th year golf and I’ve always played a strong grip, problem is at the end of last season I started to develop a hook. The golf club feels so much more naturally comfortable with a strong grip for me, I feel like I have no firm control when I start to get more neutral
Play the ball back in your stance. Open your your stance and swing to 1st base.
Horrible advice from Ernie.. don’t listen to him lol. He sucks!!!
Very clear explanation. Thanks.
Great video thanks! Helps my pull hook immediately!
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Excellent. Thanks!
Thanks Mike. Another interesting video.Great stuff..
Literally exactly what I needed to see. Great vid !
now if only i can take what i've learned here and hit five decent shots in a row...
5y645 raw
was just talking to a coach. sent him a video. he replied "right hand is too strong". I looked up this video. and everything you just described is exactly what happens to me when I hit a bad shot. 😂
best grip video out there
Great refresher! Many thanks.
The grip I choose depends on what shot shape I want, I use all of them, weak, neutral, or strong depending on how I want to shape the shot.
I have never met a good golfer who used different grips for different shots. I have a hard time believing that is practical.
D S. Well u just a badass.
I know it doesn’t make sense and isn’t practical, but I do the same thing.
I’ve found out what works for some doesn’t work for all. I started putting my right hand under with my thumb pointed toward the target and has went straight ever since.
strong right hand doesnt necessarily lead to closed face on back swing. ive got a bud that is super open on backswing then comes from the outside. leads to massive club rotation and leading heal into the ball. either a pull low hook or glancing blow push or many times a hosel....... this example is probably normal though.
Wow this is EXACTLY what happens to me. And yes, I tend to either hook it or push it. This has been so usefull thank you!
PD: do you have any tips on the approach you should follow when changing your grip? (Because at first it feels very unconfortable)
From Thailand Thank you.
brilliant video
Seemed to possible give me a more easy to replicate grip. Hoping it works well for me this season leading to more consistency and help lower my score.
Just started golf in 6 months.. struggling with right hand neutral grip…I really can’t hit a ball without strong right hand grip… it tends to hook .. but the ball can fly…
For me, I want to feel like both palms are on top of the shaft while starting by ensuring the lever between left index finger and palm pad is present.
Just 2000 subscribers? Great explanation! Would take lessons from you if you were in the states
You need to watch Mike Malaska....i understand now there is no normal strong or week grip....its all about match ups...strong top hand strong bottom hand etc...
Strong grip doesn't mean you will hit ot left...this only happens if you have an old fashioned release pattern where you let your bottom hand turn over the top...
Ive always been strong grip....some teachers tried to change it ...but it gives me more problems than solutions
Exactly, the match up I see so often is what I talked about in this video 👍
The games changed. All the top players go strong. You want to cream the golf ball go long go strong. Look at DJ, Bubbs, Koepka, all have super strong grips. Just get a thicker grip to stop the pull or hook. It works great. Changed my game moving from neutral to strong.
What about Spieth?
Michael Newton Golf he’s weak. I had a chat with Lee westwood at a city charity dinner. He said a lot of top golfing coaches will advise a strong grip. The game has changed its about power now. If your a slicer of a golf ball I would advise moving to a stronger grip 💯.
Hi Michael - when are you going to demo the new Titleist irons 2023 and post your session?
Coming very soon!
I started using a stronger grip. I’m 68 with 9.6 handicap index. Over the last couple of years I believe my grip moved to a more neutral position from a strong position, costing me to loose distance with my irons. Weaker shots. I stated using a much stronger grip again and notice my original distance coming back. Does that make sense?
Another key, in my opinion, is matching neutral to neutral, strong to strong. This video shows a neutral left with both a strong and a neutral right. I would expect the neutral right to align better with the neutral left. However - what about the strong right with the strong left?
strong right and left typically going to create a closing twist on the shaft so generally you'd see the player compensate through impact to square the face back up......ie. handle lift, early extension, body slide are typically movements I would see from golfers.
So how could we make a strong left hand and right hand work? My coach had me strengthen my grip
With this more neutral grip position do you recommend at set up having a slightly more closed club face ? ( I play ball slightly back in stance and I close club face ( about 25 degrees or more )for a draw and it works very well ) An observation : I notice there is a difference , whether I close or open club face at address ( STATIC POSITION I ll call it ) , then what happens to the club face , while coming through at impact ( call it DYNAMIC POSITION ) . Note: for fade I play ball slightly forward of center , but keep grip same( club face slightly LESS CLOSED then for draw ) Put another way , though my club face may be very CLOSED at address ( STATIC POSITION ) , as I come through the ball during full swing , it squares up perfectly ( DYNAMIC ) . I guess then what I am asking is if you would comment on grip choice ( strong, weak , neutral ) vis a vis ball position , your thoughts on it , please ?
different ball positions will create different locations on the arc of your swing. i.e.. ball position more forward will strike the ball later in the swing and generally delivering a more closed club face in relation to target and vice versa. Really go with what works for you and what gives you the flight your wanting and one that is consistent. It's all about having control of your golf ball at the end of the day.
Very useful video thanks, as I have this problem, and even though I know it, I am so strongly right-handed, it is hard to keep it neutral, but I will crack it, had a lesson on Saturday, and you have identified the shot results I get. A question though please, would a strong right hand grip increase the possibility of a shank? I hit them sometimes, not often thankfully. Thanks.
Yes possibly
I don't have a right index fingertip so when i use a neutral right hand grip it feel like i have no control over the clubhead as the right index finger can only sit just under the grip and not cradle it like shown. What would you suggest in terms on compensating for this? or is that potentially a root cause for a lot of problems?
Does not the grip you choose depend on whether you roll your arms through impact or whether you simply square the face by turning your body using less arm rotation? Trevino used a strong grip and still hit a fade. I need to really move the ball on a big draw, I might use a strong grip, or when I need to hit a low rocket into the wind.
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That’s me , I try this weekend
I thought this very strong grip was wrong but I'm used to it now. Thanks!