When I was a young girl I filled art journals with fashion drawings. There were about 30 filled books when I left for university. Spring break I came home only to discover my mum had thrown out all of my art journals. When I asked her where they were she said, ‘’ I don’t know. You must have thrown them out. ‘’ Years later as an adult, married with children I sewed clothing and made Quilts. In this last decade I’ve been making portraits in oil and watercolor paintings of children and fashion women. All this is to say, I didn’t let my mum destroy my desire to create. If I’m not making art I feel melancholy to depressed and anxious. I loved your interview.
It’s good to hear that you are working at what makes you happy. I have to tell myself lots of encouraging things to keep me going. I’ve been painting for about a year. I’m 59 and I had no idea what some of my emotions looked like before putting paint and collage on paper and canvas.
You're not alone and either kindda history, I'm with you by ALL, anxiety, depression, I was drinking 20 y eras nowara mean? Those last 11 sober years has been helped me to read conectividad everything on me, inside, about art...I'm graffiti artist since 1985 crime since ever, but nowadays admires and paying 4 that people who use still juices, my mom 1st.place to push across school *ss hole system and jailed me 4 paint around town, bandalism and create a crew very most popular EITHER ,THC. I'm making art 4 me you know, cuz I see videos and I feel not good enough, you know. But also, those on videos, making exactly that, filming graffiti.... Daz not and Daz not me. I hope you, who else read this and feel me, from far away, empathy. Peace out, word! 🤘💀
Wtf why would she throw away your art journals?! That's so horrible! How was their existence hurting her! I'm sorry, I felt so angry on your behalf when I read that. I'm sorry that happened to you and I'm glad it didn't suppress your desire or confidence to make the things you want to make!
I'm glad his parents finally understood what he was doing and why. I wish I'd had that experience. I was a reporter for 30 years. I wrote some incredible stories. Never won any awards but people would bump into me and tell me they remembered one of my stories years after they'd read them. Or I'd hear someone say, "I read a story by Brenda Sullivan in the Courant yesterday." This meant something to me because most of the time, people would say, "I read something in the paper the other day," or "I read a story in the New York Times," but they almost never remembered who wrote it. So, I was a kind of big fish in a small pond. Did my own family ever read my stories? No. Did they interrupt me and change the subject at the dinner table during holidays when I would start to talk to guests about something I was excited about writing? Often. But most painful of all was when, following a funeral for my sister's mother-in-law, in which they read a beautiful eulogy my sister had written, my mother said to my sister -- in front of me and several other people -- "how nice to have a writer in the family." At that point, I'd been writing for a living for 30 years. I also taught writing, had some of my poetry published in anthologies, was a published/paid photographer, and was the first one in my family to graduate from university. None of which was a point of pride for my mother. Off and on, I also made all kinds of art throughout my life, but never thought of myself as an artist. Now, during two years of pandemic isolation, I've taken more than 800 hours of art classes online and have produced tons of drawings, paintings, collage and other work. None of which did my mother see because she died in a nursing home just before Christmas in 2020. In a way, I'm glad she didn't see my work, because I don't think she would have acknowledged or appreciated it as art. I think so many people making art, whether or not they consider themselves to be artists, can tell similar stories of disappointment. But luckily, we keep making art anyway.
I’m so sorry that you faced that sort of reaction, but it’s very inspiring to hear you never gave up on what you loved doing and you continued to believe in your own abilities ❤️ thank you so much for sharing this and I hope you keep creating art you love
The indifference stems from a deep jealousy and their lack of drive to find their own way. These people are haunted from the inside and only see the world through the lens of news media. Never able to stop and consider what might mean a lot to someone because they've never done the same for themselves. Basically, ingrates.
Me Too - no support during my life even though it meant everything to me and I got a powerful message "you can't make any money that way" So at 75 I am still struggling to overcome that message. I have not given up though and my art is my saving grace. I do it almost every day. I am self taught and certainly an outsider. I also never received a complimentary remark from my own father and grandmother who had control of my life at a crucial age. My maternal grandparents were supportive in my early years as well as my mom. I think that being a girl in the fifties did not help the situation. This man, however is telling my story except that he is enjoying more public success. Good for him!.
Have you tried posting your work on the internet? If you keep doing it consistently you’ll eventually find people who like your work and are willing to support your work financially
"If I don't do it, I'm not very happy." I feel this, I quit art as a career 20 years ago and stopped making art altogether very soon after. And it's gradually changed (for the worse) so much about how I feel about, perceive and interact with the world, and you don't realize what's happened until you start analyzing your relationship with after two decades away.
his art genuinely sparked a mindset shift in my life. I was eating alone in a restaurant in london on a solo trip, and he had an exhibition of probably 100-150 pieces of his work. I was scared to sit for an afternoon tea alone for 2 hours but the joy his absurdist art gave me made it one of my favorite moments during that trip. I’ve never enjoyed being by myself so much because I felt like I was being entertained by his work. It’s been years and I think about his art all the time. If it was the only art in my home, I’d be my happiest self
You know what? I wasn't a massive fan of David's work when I started to watch this but he has changed my view on his work and his approach. I love his humility and relaxed approach. I even like some of the work. Ace. Thank you.
modern art is so interesting. looking at this guy's stuff i'm like "oh that's so bad, that's pointless" and then all of a sudden "that's hilarious, i love that", "that's so relatable", "i want that on my wall". and it's always like this. when you go look at some classical art it's always like "oh, that's quite nice", over and over again, and they're all nice, but the experience is mostly very homogenous. the variation makes it exciting.
I realize the irony of people who hate on modern art for being non-masterful or childlike, but having that reaction is the exact point of its worth. Whether you love it or hate, it makes you think a lot harder than classical art.
@tinycrimester You're talking about this guy's works of art, provided they are, as if they were products. That idea of ownership of the capitalist consumer object that makes you want to have this stuff in your house, as a piece of furniture. This is the ultimate expression of how popular art is flattened, flattened to the criteria of consumption and entertainment, the immediacy of the message that comes, hits, with specific idioms, causes you an immediate reaction and that's the end of it. This does not have a beyond. It does not have the transcendence typical of a work of art. But it certainly has the accessibility of a consumer product, just as it is able to maintain your hype status much more. It's because it works in the immediacy of understanding that it doesn't require who knows what cultural effort behind it. Now art is more accessible to everyone, but the flattening behind it is staggering. If you can't transcend looking at a classic work of art, it's because you didn't know how to read it, because if first impressions are enough for you, then you might as well go to the supermarket. However, artists who do not want to bend to the criteria of consumption, of consumers with their unbridled need for entertainment, die of fame if they live by art. And I am one of those. Small parenthesis: contemporary art is vast. Even a Mike Kelley is a contemporary artist, an Alberto Burri, but neither Shelley nor Burri can be said to be making entertainment. Enough of this flattening where everything magically becomes art because it arouses something exciting in you. Art should not excite, it should speak directly to the soul and evolve it. It should challenge, destabilize, it should definitely excite, give you a chance to question yourself as a human existence in the world.
Pretty nice watching his explanations about his work. Seems so calm and easy going with his process. Not a trace of conflicts and usual crazyness related to creation. As an artist, I´m very pleased to see that theres no need going to the edge of sanity to make art. My soul got a bit more glee... for now.
It’s because he is relying on text to convey his message. He doesn’t have to experiment and fail a bunch of times trying to convey his narrative through color and shape alone. So of course he doesn’t have any of the “craziness” of creation. It’s lazy. It’s contrived.
@Tommy Ohlrich that is some esoteric stuff. Maybe you could explain in more detail how his shapes and lines are unable to convey narratives because your comment seemed like just a whole bunch of words that are trying to sound lofty and knowing
@@ph-vf5hx for example. The thumbnail is just a blue skull in an empty plain without the caption. Very few will connect baby blue with ironic happiness or covering that you’re sad. Without the words the narrative about depression and coping is completely lost.
@@nokiot9 I understand what you are saying but I don't look at this artist as lazy or a phoney. He's been at it for a long time and he has his own specific style and approach. It would be incredibly boring if we stuck to ideas dogmatically.
Your work is AMAZING. Thanks for the honesty and clarity in the work and the cool and inspiring interview. I have a pink matches box edition piece of yours from quite a while back.
I would say it was everything wrong about the art world rather than art. I found what the guy said more interesting than his work. Especially when he explained how his work only became something in his parents eyes when they made a documentary on channel 4 about him. Hence only when fame and money comes does the art have value. Validation of the market means success - and that, in my opinion is what is bad about the art world - and that affects the evolution of art itself.
I think that art is highly valued in society and that there's truly nothing wrong with art in itself, but the real issue is that people struggle with values because of our system of capital interest and that "corrupts" the art. Art reflects the capitalist struggle, at least in the frame of creating art while being bound to capitalism and its order, its relevance.
@@annsuo3398 Totally agree with you. It is that specific point I have been trying to get across to people for a long time - you explained it very succinctly.
I’m so happy to have seen this video today for a variety of reasons. As an artist myself I totally get everything David is saying. And I’m super happy his parents are about to see him do his thing and be successful. This was a fascinating and beautifully put together video presentation .
This melancholy soundtrack made all of this feel quite intense. Not my kind of style but I love how David wasn't too intellectual/precious about the work. He just makes art. Simple as that.
Very likeable and easy to listen to. Every picture is like a little nuance. I love the relationship between the text and image, that they together are something, not echoing or duplicating each other Thank you
This is refreshing to listen to ,very honest ,the pictures are humorous and simple ,so much art is over complicated ,amazing that he’s kept the child like essence in his work and how he has stayed so young looking ,there’s a lesson to be learnt there .
It would be refreshing if he could do complicated art. 90% of the art he makes relies on bold text slapped onto the canvas to tell his viewer how they should feel. It’s intellectually lazy and patronizing
I love how sincere and modest he is about himself and his art. Quite charmed by him and his Youthful and Whimsical art. Glad l came across this interview! Thank you! ♥️🍀🌻😃
The work is so funny! And... it surprised me...! It is so lovely to be surprised. I also thought that the music was WONDERFUL. (I complain about background music ad nauseam, but THIS was just perfect). I love that David just talked and talked and talked and told us everything he told us. Yes! I too have a horror of boring people. This show was anything but boring! I didn't expect to like it, or be particularly interested, but I WAS! And each piece made me want to see the next. THAT is what's important. What a great discovery. Thank you!!
I remember as a young artist, my Dad saying to me, 'why don't you paint things people like'? Seemed like a common sense question at the time. I think I got a bit defensive, but it has given me much humor over following years. Bless his socks.
Interesting reflections on how image and text work together - but for me its this very simple way of drawing an impression and somehow turn it into a visual emotional state that is both longing, loving, ironic, humorous and much more -
I’m trying to make money from art, 22.. Things have been going fairly well for me and I have been trying to understand why I’m not being supported fully by my rents. I think sometimes it’s not about their financial doubts, I think they worry about the inconsistency of an artists lifestyle. It can be pretty unhealthy.
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I have been painting for years. And have even sold some of my art. Not for high prices but I have sold some art. I recently moved near my mother to be able to care for her. Her house is like 11 minutes away from mine. I recently did an art piece that I consider to be one of my most beautiful ones. I took a picture of it to show my mom. I didn't bring the original artwork to her house I just showed her a picture that I took of it. And she looked at me stunned and said, You know how to paint? No, she doesn't have Alzheimer's or dementia.
I think art means whatever it means to an individual and there are enough individuals for what anybody makes to be understood or relevant to some group of people.
His parents' reactions towards people buying artworks or the fact that there're possibilities to start a career as an artist reminds me of mine. My parents would never appriciate arts cause they think they are useless. Of course it's the social phenomenon anyway.
Kari Olson Me Too - no support during my life even though it meant everything to me and I got a powerful message "you can't make any money that way" So at 75 I am still struggling to overcome that message. I have not given up though and my art is my saving grace. I am self taught and certainly an outsider.
I’m was the opposite, my father, a builders labourer with no art background or appreciation of art tried very hard to convince me to go to art college but I didn’t have confidence in my own creativity. I’m an engineer 😂, 54 years old, I still dabble and it brings me great joy. I ensured my own children followed their passions in college, studying Architecture and Creative writing. Who wants a 40 year, wealthy but depressed dentist for a son/daughter.
you are so smart Daniel. you are a creative individual. but nothing persists in isolation. when we reach out and can find a community of like minds who can see past the material forms in our artwork, that is when spring comes and we can walk on the tight rope. You are so great. Your voice is so powerful. I can see you as this brilliant and strong, grounded and rooted tree. A perfect being that has found harmony in it’s ability to help and support others; the birds who break down our branches and make their nest within the close embrace of outstretched arms. But trees today are largely taken advantage of. But even a stump can found new growth. You know your work. You know yourself. Thank you for being such a powerfully reflectively individual. You certainly are a professional artist. Change is the only constant in life. Remember your roots, they provide our guiding light; a hope in dark times; a warning from satan or gracious gift of knowledge. Thinking too much on what we dont yet understand urges us towards new territories. A successful being knows when to jump out of the rabbit hole and when to return to our burrow. keep strong, just keep doing as youre doing, because everything youve done is inspring in its own way.
David Shrigley has a piece in a sculpture park down the road from where I live, it's a monumental scale granite rectangular prism that looks a lot like a massive gravestone, with very serious-looking capital serif font engraving on one face that reads like a grocery list - BANANAS SOCKS MUSTARD TITANIUM WHITE
If we’re being honest a lot of this looks verbatim back-of-binder doodlings from any average angst teenager circa mid-90s. I know this bc I lived it. And that’s fine, but there’s a real absurdity in these art gallery scenes. Always wonder why artists allow themselves to fall for this arbitrary, cynical tradition predominantly for storing $$$ value. Doodle away, but don’t take yourself too seriously.
you simply don't get it. you were not around when his work broke out and he resonated. he was coming up when the YBA were making huge overblown expensive bullshit and going straight to million dollar gallery shows. You probably don't even know what that means. so much fucking ignorance about the art world in this comments section. sad..
My main form of art is doodling and I think it’s shit, I tag my work as #scheissekunst because they’re bad art …..but some people like it and I’ve sold some bits. Art is subjective just like beauty. What ever sparks joy 🎀
i guess the one thing i regret is not going to art school, even if for a little bit, had to start working right away. it's a common theme running through most of the artists that have inspired me. dig your works david.
Love the Art, and to anybody that does not like it . That,s ok, rember one thing Art is a vast world of diffrent way,s of looking,makeing,crecting, and using one,s own percreption in stye,form,medium,,,This is what i Love about Artist and being an Artist myself, .
You have to be born under the right star to make a living from your art. Not all of us who spent years making art, going to art school get coverage for our art. It's a hard world to navigate. Lucky boy!
If Shrigley can become a successful multi millionaire artist, any other artist can potentially do the same... Hustle and presentation has a lot to do with an artist success and not just how well you may paint or draw.
He's not so much an "artist" as a graphic designer churning out minimalist "ideas" and marketing marketing marketing. R Crumb sang it best, "got myself a canvas and a gallon of paint, five minutes work is gonna make me a saint! Baby, I'm a Fine Arteest, and maybe I deserved to be kissed!"
@@hurdygurdyguy1 yeah the level of ignorance of his career trajectory is absolutely hilarious. for those of us around in the mid-90s when he broke out and actually understand why his work resonated at the time. it's fucking hilarious how stupid you all sound who only know art through the internet.
this part is fucking amazing. i love it i found a book of his when i was in highschool, but didn't think much of it back then. i think i understand it now
I have been going through a very long artist's block due to grief, physical trauma and protracted litigation but seeing this work I am thoroughly convinced I should take up my brushes again as I couldn't possibly produce anything worse than this absolute shit.
I feel Davids struggle. With art, with existence/order and chaos of things itself. How it's hard to value your creation without recognition, support. Be it emotional, capital, whatever.
Put it out & some people buy it- your a working artist. He had a gallery full of scribbles & passing thoughts. Good gig if you want. I did laugh at some images w/ funny words to explain them.
jealous of his simple basic art. i don't think its exceptional at all but i appreciate it i guess. we need to keep humor and self expression alive so we don't become robots. it will distinguish us from the coming AI robots.
Everything is art, and skill isn't a prerequisite. We get it, it's called abstract art. I suppose I'm more traditional and prefer the artists who are more skilled. That's my opinion of course 🙂
I like his work from what I see... but that he's actually making good living from his art is remarkable. No doubt working within the gallery system is a plus... the text make these appear as posters, probably selling prints?
I think the books he has made in the past are stronger than these large framed works. The small dense format fits the work better. It feels more humble.
art is a process; catharsis; a catalyst for new ideas. we must tread softly into towards that bright light. when we get lost in thought, we get stuck in our mind. I think the Big Blue Bird is a healing God. Mercury; a messenger. fear is the mind killer that changes the skull from a mind prison into a conduit of creative expression ; a conduit for connection; the facilitator. when people say a work is boring, it is a reflection of their own ignorance. if my words mean something to you, that is a reflection of your own personal creative intelligence. If you werent there yet, my words would sound boring to you; like crazy incomprehensible jibberish that you havent got the time or patience to learn to process.
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When I was a young girl I filled art journals with fashion drawings. There were about 30 filled books when I left for university. Spring break I came home only to discover my mum had thrown out all of my art journals. When I asked her where they were she said, ‘’ I don’t know. You must have thrown them out. ‘’ Years later as an adult, married with children I sewed clothing and made Quilts. In this last decade I’ve been making portraits in oil and watercolor paintings of children and fashion women. All this is to say, I didn’t let my mum destroy my desire to create. If I’m not making art I feel melancholy to depressed and anxious. I loved your interview.
It’s good to hear that you are working at what makes you happy. I have to tell myself lots of encouraging things to keep me going. I’ve been painting for about a year. I’m 59 and I had no idea what some of my emotions looked like before putting paint and collage on paper and canvas.
I would be sooo sad. I’m so sorry. I have a handful of completed art journals & I know how important they are to me.
You're not alone and either kindda history, I'm with you by ALL, anxiety, depression, I was drinking 20 y eras nowara mean? Those last 11 sober years has been helped me to read conectividad everything on me, inside, about art...I'm graffiti artist since 1985 crime since ever, but nowadays admires and paying 4 that people who use still juices, my mom 1st.place to push across school *ss hole system and jailed me 4 paint around town, bandalism and create a crew very most popular EITHER ,THC.
I'm making art 4 me you know, cuz I see videos and I feel not good enough, you know.
But also, those on videos, making exactly that, filming graffiti.... Daz not and Daz not me.
I hope you, who else read this and feel me, from far away, empathy. Peace out, word! 🤘💀
Wtf why would she throw away your art journals?! That's so horrible! How was their existence hurting her! I'm sorry, I felt so angry on your behalf when I read that. I'm sorry that happened to you and I'm glad it didn't suppress your desire or confidence to make the things you want to make!
@@youdontneedtoreadthis Some moms are like that. They just don't give one fuck.
I'm glad his parents finally understood what he was doing and why. I wish I'd had that experience.
I was a reporter for 30 years. I wrote some incredible stories. Never won any awards but people would bump into me and tell me they remembered one of my stories years after they'd read them. Or I'd hear someone say, "I read a story by Brenda Sullivan in the Courant yesterday." This meant something to me because most of the time, people would say, "I read something in the paper the other day," or "I read a story in the New York Times," but they almost never remembered who wrote it. So, I was a kind of big fish in a small pond.
Did my own family ever read my stories? No. Did they interrupt me and change the subject at the dinner table during holidays when I would start to talk to guests about something I was excited about writing? Often.
But most painful of all was when, following a funeral for my sister's mother-in-law, in which they read a beautiful eulogy my sister had written, my mother said to my sister -- in front of me and several other people -- "how nice to have a writer in the family."
At that point, I'd been writing for a living for 30 years. I also taught writing, had some of my poetry published in anthologies, was a published/paid photographer, and was the first one in my family to graduate from university. None of which was a point of pride for my mother.
Off and on, I also made all kinds of art throughout my life, but never thought of myself as an artist. Now, during two years of pandemic isolation, I've taken more than 800 hours of art classes online and have produced tons of drawings, paintings, collage and other work. None of which did my mother see because she died in a nursing home just before Christmas in 2020.
In a way, I'm glad she didn't see my work, because I don't think she would have acknowledged or appreciated it as art. I think so many people making art, whether or not they consider themselves to be artists, can tell similar stories of disappointment. But luckily, we keep making art anyway.
I’m so sorry that you faced that sort of reaction, but it’s very inspiring to hear you never gave up on what you loved doing and you continued to believe in your own abilities ❤️ thank you so much for sharing this and I hope you keep creating art you love
The indifference stems from a deep jealousy and their lack of drive to find their own way. These people are haunted from the inside and only see the world through the lens of news media. Never able to stop and consider what might mean a lot to someone because they've never done the same for themselves. Basically, ingrates.
Common experience with career artists. Don't be sad, they don't need to understand, and it can't be taken away from you whether acknowledged or not.
what his parents understood is that hes making money
keep striving to make art
Me Too - no support during my life even though it meant everything to me and I got a powerful message "you can't make any money that way" So at 75 I am still struggling to overcome that message. I have not given up though and my art is my saving grace. I do it almost every day. I am self taught and certainly an outsider. I also never received a complimentary remark from my own father and grandmother who had control of my life at a crucial age. My maternal grandparents were supportive in my early years as well as my mom. I think that being a girl in the fifties did not help the situation. This man, however is telling my story except that he is enjoying more public success. Good for him!.
hell yeah i love to hear that keep on making what you need to get out!!!
Have you tried posting your work on the internet? If you keep doing it consistently you’ll eventually find people who like your work and are willing to support your work financially
I feel you. 💔
My definition of an artist: someone who made art today.
Does art need to make money? Is that the justification for it? For most people its therapy and enjoyment and theres no shame in that
"If I don't do it, I'm not very happy." I feel this, I quit art as a career 20 years ago and stopped making art altogether very soon after. And it's gradually changed (for the worse) so much about how I feel about, perceive and interact with the world, and you don't realize what's happened until you start analyzing your relationship with after two decades away.
his art genuinely sparked a mindset shift in my life. I was eating alone in a restaurant in london on a solo trip, and he had an exhibition of probably 100-150 pieces of his work. I was scared to sit for an afternoon tea alone for 2 hours but the joy his absurdist art gave me made it one of my favorite moments during that trip. I’ve never enjoyed being by myself so much because I felt like I was being entertained by his work. It’s been years and I think about his art all the time. If it was the only art in my home, I’d be my happiest self
I LOVE these. I love this channel. There isn't enough GOOD content about Art. I am grateful for you!
i wish people were as quick to experiment with creating as they were with judging the art that doesn't resonate with them
this should be printed alongside every turner prize nomination ever
There are cosmically more people with functioning bullshit detectors, than can ever be really creative.
Yes
“If you put the hours in, the work will make itself.”
You know what? I wasn't a massive fan of David's work when I started to watch this but he has changed my view on his work and his approach. I love his humility and relaxed approach. I even like some of the work. Ace. Thank you.
He is not so humble. He has been quoted as saying, "They didn't appreciate my genius."
@@jdc9023 I can only assume he was being ironic, given the naivety of his work.
What I love most here and with David Shrigley is the encouragement of maneuvering around certainty or conclusion.
Showed this to my kids and they flipped out. They knew this guy got it and said he was now their favorite artist and wanted to meet his kids.
modern art is so interesting. looking at this guy's stuff i'm like "oh that's so bad, that's pointless" and then all of a sudden "that's hilarious, i love that", "that's so relatable", "i want that on my wall". and it's always like this. when you go look at some classical art it's always like "oh, that's quite nice", over and over again, and they're all nice, but the experience is mostly very homogenous. the variation makes it exciting.
i'm glad you had that experience. shrigley's art is ideas not images, but once you get the ideas, the images are brilliant.
I realize the irony of people who hate on modern art for being non-masterful or childlike, but having that reaction is the exact point of its worth. Whether you love it or hate, it makes you think a lot harder than classical art.
@@helpfulcommenter well put!
@tinycrimester
You're talking about this guy's works of art, provided they are, as if they were products.
That idea of ownership of the capitalist consumer object that makes you want to have this stuff in your house, as a piece of furniture. This is the ultimate expression of how popular art is flattened, flattened to the criteria of consumption and entertainment, the immediacy of the message that comes, hits, with specific idioms, causes you an immediate reaction and that's the end of it. This does not have a beyond. It does not have the transcendence typical of a work of art.
But it certainly has the accessibility of a consumer product, just as it is able to maintain your hype status much more. It's because it works in the immediacy of understanding that it doesn't require who knows what cultural effort behind it.
Now art is more accessible to everyone, but the flattening behind it is staggering.
If you can't transcend looking at a classic work of art, it's because you didn't know how to read it, because if first impressions are enough for you, then you might as well go to the supermarket.
However, artists who do not want to bend to the criteria of consumption, of consumers with their unbridled need for entertainment, die of fame if they live by art. And I am one of those.
Small parenthesis: contemporary art is vast. Even a Mike Kelley is a contemporary artist, an Alberto Burri, but neither Shelley nor Burri can be said to be making entertainment.
Enough of this flattening where everything magically becomes art because it arouses something exciting in you.
Art should not excite, it should speak directly to the soul and evolve it. It should challenge, destabilize, it should definitely excite, give you a chance to question yourself as a human existence in the world.
Pretty nice watching his explanations about his work. Seems so calm and easy going with his process. Not a trace of conflicts and usual crazyness related to creation. As an artist, I´m very pleased to see that theres no need going to the edge of sanity to make art. My soul got a bit more glee... for now.
It’s because he is relying on text to convey his message. He doesn’t have to experiment and fail a bunch of times trying to convey his narrative through color and shape alone. So of course he doesn’t have any of the “craziness” of creation. It’s lazy. It’s contrived.
@@nokiot9 make sense
@Tommy Ohlrich that is some esoteric stuff. Maybe you could explain in more detail how his shapes and lines are unable to convey narratives because your comment seemed like just a whole bunch of words that are trying to sound lofty and knowing
@@ph-vf5hx for example. The thumbnail is just a blue skull in an empty plain without the caption. Very few will connect baby blue with ironic happiness or covering that you’re sad. Without the words the narrative about depression and coping is completely lost.
@@nokiot9 I understand what you are saying but I don't look at this artist as lazy or a phoney. He's been at it for a long time and he has his own specific style and approach. It would be incredibly boring if we stuck to ideas dogmatically.
Your work is AMAZING. Thanks for the honesty and clarity in the work and the cool and inspiring interview. I have a pink matches box edition piece of yours from quite a while back.
I would say it was everything wrong about the art world rather than art.
I found what the guy said more interesting than his work. Especially when he explained how his work only became something in his parents eyes when they made a documentary on channel 4 about him. Hence only when fame and money comes does the art have value. Validation of the market means success - and that, in my opinion is what is bad about the art world - and that affects the evolution of art itself.
Yeah. He’s a hack. He’s relying on text to convey his narrative. It’s lazy. He’s a writer. Not a painter
I think that art is highly valued in society and that there's truly nothing wrong with art in itself, but the real issue is that people struggle with values because of our system of capital interest and that "corrupts" the art. Art reflects the capitalist struggle, at least in the frame of creating art while being bound to capitalism and its order, its relevance.
Very correct! I was thinking the same thing!
@@annsuo3398 Totally agree with you. It is that specific point I have been trying to get across to people for a long time - you explained it very succinctly.
@@nokiot9 artist either way
I’m so happy to have seen this video today for a variety of reasons. As an artist myself I totally get everything David is saying. And I’m super happy his parents are about to see him do his thing and be successful. This was a fascinating and beautifully put together video presentation .
This melancholy soundtrack made all of this feel quite intense. Not my kind of style but I love how David wasn't too intellectual/precious about the work. He just makes art. Simple as that.
i find him quite brilliant, he is very sincere and he has this particular humor that i really liked
simple but amazing
DAVID I LOVE YOUUUUUUU YOU INSPIRED ME TO MAKE ART AND CARE LESS AND I LOVE YOU LOVE YOU LOVE YOU
Very likeable and easy to listen to.
Every picture is like a little nuance.
I love the relationship between the text and image, that they together are something, not echoing or duplicating each other
Thank you
step 1: painting anything like a frog. step 2: write something like "the sky is falling" in red text. step 3: big money
@@benksy96 someone got offended i guess? lovely
@@benksy96 You've cracked the code! You must be worth loads of dosh, then
This is refreshing to listen to ,very honest ,the pictures are humorous and simple ,so much art is over complicated ,amazing that he’s kept the child like essence in his work and how he has stayed so young looking ,there’s a lesson to be learnt there .
It would be refreshing if he could do complicated art. 90% of the art he makes relies on bold text slapped onto the canvas to tell his viewer how they should feel. It’s intellectually lazy and patronizing
@@nokiot9 "to tell his viewer how they should feel"? How so?
What an amazing down to earth person, thank you for sharing your view of life, so that we may better view our own.
Good comment! I was going to sit down to make comments responding to everyone and now I feel weird, foolish and otherworldly.
Just want to say Louisiana Channel is the best. Much love strangers keep creating
I love how sincere and modest he is about himself and his art.
Quite charmed by him and his
Youthful and Whimsical art.
Glad l came across this interview! Thank you! ♥️🍀🌻😃
The work is so funny! And... it surprised me...! It is so lovely to be surprised. I also thought that the music was WONDERFUL. (I complain about background music ad nauseam, but THIS was just perfect). I love that David just talked and talked and talked and told us everything he told us. Yes! I too have a horror of boring people. This show was anything but boring! I didn't expect to like it, or be particularly interested, but I WAS! And each piece made me want to see the next. THAT is what's important.
What a great discovery. Thank you!!
Fascinating. His work reminds me of those fantastically witty and visually creative Polish posters/art.
Excellent video, I do like and appreciate this artist’s work 👍👍
Such simple, profound, and funny work! Thanks for introducing me to David's work.
David is one of my favorite artist alive
I remember as a young artist, my Dad saying to me, 'why don't you paint things people like'? Seemed like a common sense question at the time. I think I got a bit defensive, but it has given me much humor over following years. Bless his socks.
if people lived by any core values, the world would be a better place 💯
Interesting reflections on how image and text work together - but for me its this very simple way of drawing an impression and somehow turn it into a visual emotional state that is both longing, loving, ironic, humorous and much more -
Loved this. Love David's honesty. Thank you.
I’m trying to make money from art, 22..
Things have been going fairly well for me and I have been trying to understand why I’m not being supported fully by my rents.
I think sometimes it’s not about their financial doubts, I think they worry about the inconsistency of an artists lifestyle. It can be pretty unhealthy.
i love your work. simple, interesting, profound. thanks.
David's drawings are funny and sometimes incredible sad. That makes his art wonderful. Nuff said.
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I somehow forgot the login password. I would love any tricks you can offer me.
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They are only funny because they are shit, sad for the same reason.
I see this work. I like this work. I ask myself why I like this work. Over and over.
Then he explains the “slip” between word and pictures…lightbulb.
Thank you for shaing your art, I honestly don't know what I would do if there were not artists in this world. Truly.
I have been painting for years. And have even sold some of my art. Not for high prices but I have sold some art. I recently moved near my mother to be able to care for her. Her house is like 11 minutes away from mine. I recently did an art piece that I consider to be one of my most beautiful ones. I took a picture of it to show my mom. I didn't bring the original artwork to her house I just showed her a picture that I took of it. And she looked at me stunned and said, You know how to paint? No, she doesn't have Alzheimer's or dementia.
I think art means whatever it means to an individual and there are enough individuals for what anybody makes to be understood or relevant to some group of people.
Really nice. Simplistic but heavy at the same time. No unnecessarities, serious and funny at the same time, humble guy aswell
His parents' reactions towards people buying artworks or the fact that there're possibilities to start a career as an artist reminds me of mine. My parents would never appriciate arts cause they think they are useless. Of course it's the social phenomenon anyway.
Kari Olson
Me Too - no support during my life even though it meant everything to me and I got a powerful message "you can't make any money that way" So at 75 I am still struggling to overcome that message. I have not given up though and my art is my saving grace. I am self taught and certainly an outsider.
A very interesting talk. Not rubbish at all.
Art & take it or Leave it
I can't tell if you're being serious or not...
I think it is rubbish to
so bloody relaxing
Love the nothing drawing..his attitude is authentic..feel it..very refreshing..☀☀💝
I’m was the opposite, my father, a builders labourer with no art background or appreciation of art tried very hard to convince me to go to art college but I didn’t have confidence in my own creativity. I’m an engineer 😂, 54 years old, I still dabble and it brings me great joy. I ensured my own children followed their passions in college, studying Architecture and Creative writing. Who wants a 40 year, wealthy but depressed dentist for a son/daughter.
I liked the narrative of his process of drawing and reflections on making art.
The thing about making work even if you don’t want to and putting the hours in is very important.
the background / interlude music makes this way more intense
His brilliant. His humor is everything
Super good interview. Thank you!
you are so smart Daniel. you are a creative individual. but nothing persists in isolation. when we reach out and can find a community of like minds who can see past the material forms in our artwork, that is when spring comes and we can walk on the tight rope. You are so great. Your voice is so powerful. I can see you as this brilliant and strong, grounded and rooted tree. A perfect being that has found harmony in it’s ability to help and support others; the birds who break down our branches and make their nest within the close embrace of outstretched arms. But trees today are largely taken advantage of. But even a stump can found new growth. You know your work. You know yourself. Thank you for being such a powerfully reflectively individual. You certainly are a professional artist. Change is the only constant in life. Remember your roots, they provide our guiding light; a hope in dark times; a warning from satan or gracious gift of knowledge. Thinking too much on what we dont yet understand urges us towards new territories. A successful being knows when to jump out of the rabbit hole and when to return to our burrow. keep strong, just keep doing as youre doing, because everything youve done is inspring in its own way.
David Shrigley has a piece in a sculpture park down the road from where I live, it's a monumental scale granite rectangular prism that looks a lot like a massive gravestone, with very serious-looking capital serif font engraving on one face that reads like a grocery list -
BANANAS
SOCKS
MUSTARD
TITANIUM WHITE
If we’re being honest a lot of this looks verbatim back-of-binder doodlings from any average angst teenager circa mid-90s. I know this bc I lived it. And that’s fine, but there’s a real absurdity in these art gallery scenes. Always wonder why artists allow themselves to fall for this arbitrary, cynical tradition predominantly for storing $$$ value. Doodle away, but don’t take yourself too seriously.
"Excesses of advanced capitalism"
you simply don't get it. you were not around when his work broke out and he resonated. he was coming up when the YBA were making huge overblown expensive bullshit and going straight to million dollar gallery shows. You probably don't even know what that means.
so much fucking ignorance about the art world in this comments section. sad..
Just curious, what do you for a living?
My main form of art is doodling and I think it’s shit, I tag my work as #scheissekunst because they’re bad art …..but some people like it and I’ve sold some bits. Art is subjective just like beauty. What ever sparks joy 🎀
Where is the recycling center David is using ? :-)
It's fun. I'm not comparing but was reminded of Guston. Meant as a compliment.
i guess the one thing i regret is not going to art school, even if for a little bit, had to start working right away. it's a common theme running through most of the artists that have inspired me. dig your works david.
its not all that these days
It’s never too late. Older the better I think, people go to university too early in my opinion
Brilliant simple guy
Will This be considered David’s New Yorker cartoon period? Interesting pleasant fellow.
Love the Art, and to anybody that does not like it . That,s ok, rember one thing Art is a vast world of diffrent way,s of looking,makeing,crecting, and using one,s own percreption in stye,form,medium,,,This is what i Love about Artist and being an Artist myself, .
You have to be born under the right star to make a living from your art. Not all of us who spent years making art, going to art school get coverage for our art. It's a hard world to navigate. Lucky boy!
Funny how money, i.e., security, can change how much someone does or doesn't "like" something.... ;)
I really enjoyed this. Thank you!
what is wrong with you? or are you just a conformist?
Thanks a lot for your videos
Sometimes, parents take a while to come around. For whatever reason. I’m a parent of 4 & I’ve had to come around on 4 occasions. ☺️☺️
It's so desperately sad that people think that ONLY THINGS THAT MAKE MONEY have value. It's the poison of the small mind and the shriveled heart.
I don't get his art. Can somebody explain it why people think it's good
all painting meaning is ambiguous , depends on what your feelings when you saw it
Art group think is often like when someone gives you the elbow and says " do you get it?"
The banality of this work eludes me but i am happy for his success & large audience of admirers.
David is the funniest artist i have ever seen … an one of my fav
Excellent in every way
If Shrigley can become a successful multi millionaire artist, any other artist can potentially do the same... Hustle and presentation has a lot to do with an artist success and not just how well you may paint or draw.
I agree. I also think its who you know. Not what you know.
He's not so much an "artist" as a graphic designer churning out minimalist "ideas" and marketing marketing marketing. R Crumb sang it best, "got myself a canvas and a gallon of paint, five minutes work is gonna make me a saint! Baby, I'm a Fine Arteest, and maybe I deserved to be kissed!"
@@hurdygurdyguy1 yeah the level of ignorance of his career trajectory is absolutely hilarious. for those of us around in the mid-90s when he broke out and actually understand why his work resonated at the time. it's fucking hilarious how stupid you all sound who only know art through the internet.
I love his work- innocent, honest and all. He’s probably on the spectrum of course and that’s ok- “not that there’s anything wrong with that”
why would you make that kind of assumption. he's actually not. wow.
You're wrong if you think his work is not sophisticated, which is what I think you are suggesting.
this part is fucking amazing. i love it
i found a book of his when i was in highschool, but didn't think much of it back then. i think i understand it now
refreshing - love his work !
He reminds me a lot of Keith Haring in his approach
Some of it IS absolute rubbish; but good on him that he’s found an audience / carved a niche. Good on him 🌠❤🔥🌠
I have been going through a very long artist's block due to grief, physical trauma and protracted litigation but seeing this work I am thoroughly convinced I should take up my brushes again as I couldn't possibly produce anything worse than this absolute shit.
Best attitude
yeah you sound exactly like the kind of person who would end up in "protracted litigation" - what a piece of shit personality you must have.
he seems really down to earth :-)
Oh my God you are so English... listening to you is very calming.
Wonder where the Shrigley recycling centre is...
Very funny and inspiring
I feel Davids struggle. With art, with existence/order and chaos of things itself. How it's hard to value your creation without recognition, support. Be it emotional, capital, whatever.
Simply brilliant !
Great video and very interesting work
I like this guy and his sense of humor hehe
Put it out & some people buy it- your a working artist. He had a gallery full of scribbles & passing thoughts. Good gig if you want. I did laugh at some images w/ funny words to explain them.
He is a genius
spoken like a tru artist
Your works are funny and witty. Like a Charlie Chaplin comedy.
Would make for great Imagery, for The Smiths, or a GARY NUMAN video?
jealous of his simple basic art. i don't think its exceptional at all but i appreciate it i guess. we need to keep humor and self expression alive so we don't become robots. it will distinguish us from the coming AI robots.
I think I'll become an artist!
this guys art is hilarious. i like him.
That fist painting on his left is very very Philip Guston.
Everything is art, and skill isn't a prerequisite. We get it, it's called abstract art.
I suppose I'm more traditional and prefer the artists who are more skilled. That's my opinion of course 🙂
Rock On David !! :)
I like his work from what I see... but that he's actually making good living from his art is remarkable. No doubt working within the gallery system is a plus... the text make these appear as posters, probably selling prints?
He's massive... he has been exhibiting and publishing for decades now
Someone gave me my first Shrigley zine in 1998
@@biocykle much of his work is very dependent on text.
I think the books he has made in the past are stronger than these large framed works. The small dense format fits the work better. It feels more humble.
Anyone know the music? its lovely
art is a process; catharsis; a catalyst for new ideas. we must tread softly into towards that bright light. when we get lost in thought, we get stuck in our mind. I think the Big Blue Bird is a healing God. Mercury; a messenger. fear is the mind killer that changes the skull from a mind prison into a conduit of creative expression ; a conduit for connection; the facilitator.
when people say a work is boring, it is a reflection of their own ignorance. if my words mean something to you, that is a reflection of your own personal creative intelligence. If you werent there yet, my words would sound boring to you; like crazy incomprehensible jibberish that you havent got the time or patience to learn to process.