"Financial transparency should be a precondition for tax-exempt status." And so it is. The church makes financials as required to the I.R.S. That's not you, by the way.
It is. Just not in the way you think. But that’s why this video is just another bad take after all the others. Grinding your axe against a church that you don’t believe in but taking everything this gentleman says for truth is in my opinion more foolish.
@thomasmaughan4798 The only reason we know The General Authorities were hiding billions in the first place is because The Washington Post leaked it. If not, the church would still be hiding it.
Ironically, our stand-alone non-denominational Christian church gave their financial report today during services. Clear transparency of funds. They also have a third-party auditor who works primarily with churches review all finances each year. It’s been refreshing after the secrecy and dishonesty I saw during the 65 years as an LDS member.
We just started attending another Christian church and it was really surprising to see right in the church pamphlet how much they received the week prior and what their monthly budget is. Kind of refreshing to see that kind of transparency.
Isn’t it great? And seeing how much is being given to legit humanitarian efforts and none going to real estate other than the building we’re in is heartening. I hope you’re as happy in your church as we are in ours. @@bmo5082
They clench an iron fist around their wealth and yet bellyache that they don’t have a lot of money. They make the members clean their chapels now because they don’t want to give a paycheck in their view to a lowly janitor.
I'm 74 now but I remember while growing up we had to donate and do money-making projects specifically to build or repair our churches. That was on top of tithing and fast offerings. The no janitors bothers me a lot, considering how much $ is in the coffers.
Wow, 74 and you've gone from a poor church to a super rich one all while being poor yourself then and staying poor even 'til today! Wow! God's gonna for sure give you a mansion and a fancy car with 10 hot, virgin, horny wives after you die!!!! The more you suffer the more it shows you really care! Right? Yeah aah yeah!
Yes; I remember the *assessments* to build buildings. Considering that Jesus required some people to give up *everything* I don't mind contributing a couple hundred dollars to building a chapel or temple. I feel great knowing I actually helped with the building of something. "considering how much $ is in the coffers." Very few people know how much $ is in coffers. Keeping assets in dollars is stupid. Inflation has destroyed half the value of dollar denominated assets in just a few years (since Joe Biden, more or less).
@@thomasmaughan4798 that's all well and good, but the issue here is ... *WHERE is the reciprocation?* From the looks of it, Jesus is a one-way street that takes and never actually gives anything back... like an insurance company that takes your payments but then when an emergency comes up refuse to pay-up. Oh! But hey! The LDS Church says "your rewards will be great in heaven!" so yeah, there's always that... and I've got a bridge in Brooklyn I can sell you for a song you'll wanna look into!!!
@@frshbloodOldmemories "Well there's the "law" of consideration which sounds kinda communist rght abt now" I wonder if you meant "consecration"? Anyway, yes, communism was intended to be wonderful and is the foundation of the Democrat Party. It doesn't actually work because of human nature; the absence of "consideration" (or consecration). As you probably know, the law of consecration failed pretty quick in the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and for the same reason: Human nature! But even in the United Order, we do not share toothbrushes. Or clothing. Or spouses. It is more of a co-operative.
@@thomasmaughan4798Oh, money is *definitely* changing hands, at Mormon temples. That's if you're part of the "in crowd", which I'm guessing you aren't.
@@starguy2718 "money is definitely changing hands at Mormon temples." Yes, provided it is understood to mean small amounts of money to rent the special clothing (those that do not already have it) at temples of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. It would be unlikely for vendors to sell their wares inside, or even outside, such temples.
Their own scriptural prophet warned them about corrupt churches who love adorning their buildings more than they help the poor and transfigure the word of God for the praise of the world. To which, the Church honors this ancient prophet by making him a golden facsimile to adorn their temple spires. Now that's irony.
@@WatchingwaitingG2Dwhat facts did he get wrong? Have you read Mormon Chapter 8 which was written by Moroni? It's a scathing rebuke of the current Mormon/LDS church. Temples are a gross example of adorning church buildings for show instead of giving to the poor. Kevin Pearson has confirmed that the church has no desire to help the poor in direct opposition to both the Bible and BOM.
Honestly how dare they lie to us like this. Generations of families have dedicated their lives to this church, and they have manipulated and abused us in return.
@kenneth. I have always found that man to be uncommonly arrogant - unflinching in lying - and just "oozy" in general. [But often adored (😶) in RS.] Very interesting, then, that rmn seems obsessed with out-doing the Hinkley. At least Hinkley's coarseness in lying was unrestrained and without any fear [of God or of man]; even as he hem-hawed for only a few seconds, he was convinced it was simply HIS RIGHT to blatantly lie. rmn likes to shine up his apple first. And will do all necessary [flatter, suck up, lick boots] to attain to a presentation of "high estate" (both for him- self and for those who fling themselves drunkenly into his CAREFULLY CALCULATED "enchantments") and then deliver his BIG-TOP pronouncements to the frenzied throngs. gbh just throws out the old Joe Frasier punch and we're done. rmn - lusty as Delilah - loves to hold that Ether mask over a face until the body is within a breath of being a corpse, and then 🧟! yanks that swimmy mesh back like a lizard looping in a fly. And when the leaden bones catch a last-minute whiff of air, the doozied primal gasp sounds like a GLORY- HALLELUJAH! meant to yank stars out of the blue heavens. Reckon anyone in that state actually HEARS what he's said? Or gives a pig's ear? 🤠
I wish Brazilian mormons had access to these information. As most Brazilian mormons are less educated and do not speak English, they are much more distant to what really is the mormon church than the rest of the mormons in the world. Poorer members sacrifice too much paying tithing out of their already strained and limited income while the mormon church hoards this insane amount of money. I would say the church indeed helps some people financially and there are some level of connections and entrepreneurship within the church in Brazil which helps some (only some) members to get out of poverty, but most of the members are still very poor and clueless about all of this. Thank you for your work Nemo.
What you call hoarding many people call saving, investing, and preparing for opportunity. I advise you to do the same and be less critical of those that do even if it is an organization. Example: The LDS church just announced a medical school at BYU that will benefit the international community (Medical schools aren't built by being in debt). I'm sure most people on this channel will find a way to twist that in to a negative light. It really says more about the critic then it does the criticized.
Excellent sequential report on the financial deceptions by the Mormon Corp/Church. It is time for an independent audit to be disclosed to public, members, and ex-members who left as a result of the corp's fraudulent inducement.
The only fraud going on is likely the fraud of those that leave the LDS church and can’t really admit or understand why they really left and come to these channels to justify their anger towards a ghost that doesn’t even exist.
Fraudulent Inducement is a perfect description of the con mandating tithes to a church, that is really a corporation, hoarding and not disclosing its wealth rather than using the funds for meeting charitable needs (with the 95% given to needy, 5% for the bureaucracy).
A lot of PTSD is caused by overarching religions that discriminate and grind the faces of the poor. The Church is a huge horse and pony show. I worship Jesus Christ not Russel M. Nelson, a fallible man. Apostles primary call is to heal. What miraculous healings took place during COVID? The Church leaders hid and just spewed hot air during COVID, and shuttered the temples. Men of God cowered while Satan destroyed. Christ alone, no man with Christ cowers.
@@phillipcook3430i dont read anger dear. In the early 90's, lots began to surface, through good member's historical research. Sooooo, the church held a whitch hunt: the September 5... But, on another level, as to real truth: those who have had NDE 's can testify of NO churches NO cathedrals, NO mosques, NO temples etc when we cross pver. NO eternal marriages, NO popes and prophets... NO judgement.... Just unconditional love
"Dragon-sickness. I've seen it before. That look. The terrible need. It is a fierce and jealous love, Bilbo. It sent his grandfather mad." -- Balin in "The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies" Brilliant reference. I fear you are correct. And the need for transparency about all the gold they are sitting on is driving the Q15 mad.
@@NEMOTHEMORMON Nemo-The-Great keep up the awesome work. There are many caught between 2 world views due to their new found knowledge of factual truth & thought cave past of those they love. You candid voice is greatly appreciated & needed.
Claiming the Mormon church is synonymous with Jesus is so arrogant, haughty, and indicative of a superiority complex. The LDS church is Jesus’ church in name only.
I don't like the way "Jesus Christ" collects my tithing money decade after decade and then when my life gets difficult and I become needful and turn to "him" "he" tells me that "he'll" pray for me and wishes me luck but then lets me live in my car and does nothing to help me. I also don't like the way "My Savior" refuses to refund any of that tithing money I've been giving "him" for decades that "he's" been investing and collecting compound interest on... I mean even Costco gives you ten years or more for returns and refunds if you change your mind!!! Dang that Lord guy!
@@todd212010 🌈🌈. The claim of the holy name to ANY moniker this hell-spawned "church" calls itself, pretends to be, and many sincere members believe it to be IS BEYOND anything most of us can believe it can have succeeded in coming to BE! Just learned today that Karl Marx, in Germany, was writing his version of this montage of hell about same time js was crawling into holes looking for loot. Remember the DARTMOUTH connection with js and all the comings/goings from U.S. and Europe. At the kindest, js was an "instrument; at some point, he became a willing accom- plice to overtake the country.
@@todd212010 WORSE THAN THAT! In early 1830s, while KARL MARX was penning (as poetry) his Communist Manifesto, little js in U.S., was squirming his way thro' holes in the woods looking for hidden treasure. At near same age, both were at the work of LUCIFER's own dream! The DARTMOUTH CONNECTION was surely the coordinating link. If js was merely made their "instrument", he developed into a complicit agent in the LUCIFERIAN aspirations for complete control of all people and $$$.
So I do belive in Joseph Smith i like to say he was a good guy maybe messed a bit but the BofM is still good. However Brigham young messed this church up as he was an AS$ hole! or MAN and the devil. so I call it "the church of Brigham Young of latter day saints" he set the standrd of ignorance and obedience. I still believe but know the DeVil is inside the church! billie eilish "bad guy" Duh!!
Brilliant video, Nemo. You have a real gift of presenting well-researched information succinctly, accurately and in a way that is easy to follow. The LDS, like many churches, have become insanely focused on building 'the storehouse' (and misquoting Malachi 3:10).
Replace the word church with casino . Money goes in gets laundered and doesnt come out. Ensign peak is starting a new business "Hoax Casinos " for when the new president kicks in Dallin H Oaks.......very sad these men are ruining the church .
"when Jesus was walking the earth he didn't have any money so why does he now need it" He does not need money. On the other hand, if he is in disguise walking among us, then he will have sufficient for his needs.
Judas was the treasurer for Jesus' ministry. The Israelites possessed gold both in the wilderness and in their land. God has always required tithe, one of the few things that Jesus agreed with the Pharisees on.
On March 15, 2005, Jesus became aware that the public might link this first LLC to Jesus because the person signing the Forms 13F was listed in a public directory as a Jesus follower. To address this issue, on March 21, 2005, the senior leadership of Jesus approved a new reporting entity to be created with “better care being taken to ensure that neither the ‘Street’ nor the media [could] connect the new entity to Ensign Peak.”
Thank you for the only clear and transparent explanation I've ever heard of the church's financial history!! I was a nursery leader and remember the simple lessons about honesty (using coins sometimes) that leaders in SLC were sure that toddlers would understand, and also my confusion as I bought and sold homes in Utah and was struck by the greed and dishonesty of some active church members (including leaders). Dragon sickness is as relevant today as it was in tales of old!
The good news is that we, as common people, can learn from the church! We can learn that the difference between winners like Jesus and Elon Musk and losers like the lower-class is that winners can just live off of unearned income that stacks cash by use of investments and the power of compound interest way faster than actually earning it! Thanks capitalism and thanks Jesus/LDS Church for a lesson well taught! Now, follow that example and don't pay your tithing until you have actual increase from the cash you stack from investments. Right? I'm not missing the point, am I? I mean, that's the example to follow right???
@@TheGreatDadoo Hello, well-intentioned commenter. The thing is, the problem is NOT CAPITALISM. It is the MARXIST/ js ploys used by people still trying to make that socio-economic drug-trip the actual BASIS and INSTRUMENT for their global rule by which it is THEY who live in debauchery at the expense of those whom they oppress. js and k. Marx, on opposite sides of the GREAT WATERS, (and, strangely, at about the same chronological age in early 1830s) WERE EACH embarking upon and ABOUT THEIR mutual FATHER'S business!!! Check out the Jordan Peterson podcast captioned "The LUCIFERIAN INTELLECT" with author of book titled The Devil and Karl Marx (by Dr. Paul Kengor). Hope it helps. 🌹
"Definitely appears to be hoarding" Hoarding cash is incredibly stupid. Nobody with more than a couple thousand dollars keeps it in *dollars* but invests it.
@@thomasmaughan4798I bet you wish you had gobs of cash sitting around to open up options for you and your family. This stuff is such a pathetic take on the LDS churches finances. Just wait and see another 20 years and you will see how wise it was.
i cant imagine how JESUS would feel about the church insists, under the penalty of burning, that a dirt poor family should give the church money, whether or not doing so would take food out of their childrens mouth.
@jamesmorphe. 🌈🌈🌈 HERE is BLASPHEMY of the Holy. Spirit. 🔥 Anti-Christic "doctrine". All-out. So many ways. Thanks to Nemo for RIGHTLY DEMANDING, "WHEN is enough. ENOUGH?"
Jesus helped people (cured them from illnesses, fed them, and so on) without asking any money anywhere. He told his disciples (Matthew 10:8) "You received free, give free."
(Disclaimer: I haven't paid a church tithe since 1991, when Lavinia Fielding was exco'd for defying certain general authorities' demands that she stop publishing instances of sex abuse in Mormondom.) Disclosure is a separate issue from funding the mall, rescuing a legacy Mormon insurance co., and misspeaking about both. The mall was an effort to protect the vicinity of Temple Sq from urban decay. Do Catholics complain about costs to maintain the Vatican? Also, if you have the $$, it's understandable to bail out a failing insur co. that for decades was quasi-church and later informally affiliated, the failure of which would bankrupt many longtime subscribers. But nondisclosure to the people whose money it is (Jesus made it clear money pertains to Caesar, not Himself nor presumably His church) is misguided and damaging. Also, "fibbing" about project funds, whether intentionally or thru neglect of due diligence before speaking, needs to change. These practices do not constitute merely the appearance of evil but evil itself.
My mother and father worked as custodians in our local LDS Church for 11 years until my father retired. I remember helping them mop the gym vacuum the floors and mow the lawn. They took care of everything, even the flowers. After my father passed away my mother was insured by DMBA church insurance. I am glad they was there for her until she passed. Now days me my own family still helps clean the church when we are asked getting it ready for the Sunday service. I don't ever remember being paid for it, but it's a service I am glad to offer when I can.
I’m sure the Lord appreciated their hard work ❤ the tithe is a commandment from God. It’s a hard one to follow but will be blessed in doing so. I wish many here in these comments understood that. As was for told in the last days many saints will fall away because they don’t truly understand and follow the Lord. It saddens my heart to see the spirit of contention all around. The Lords ways are not of this world. If you don’t understand it then you need to seek for the Lord even more. God bless
@@TheLifeProject-rs1jw The tithe is. Not. A .commandment from God. It is a manipulative, malignant, and vampiric MANDATE of men. First, Eli's son's abused it [ISam. 2:12-17, 22, 23, 24, 25, THIS is what Malachi addresses; And God proceeds to inform Samuel what HE would do about it, ch. 3;10, 11,12,13,14, NON-jst] I Sam. 22:1 - 22.
It really grinds my gears that a church that has over 100 billion dollars in reserves requires its members to volunteer hours on the weekend to clean the local meetinghouses. In years past, the church used to employ custodians to clean the local meetinghouses. The church has no problem with paying janitors to work on the Sabbath during General Conference. I remember seeing a janitor cleaning up the bathroom inside the Conference Center on Sunday during General Conference when attended the Sunday Afternoon Session back in April 2019. Even the janitor mentioned that this was the first job he ever had that required him to work on the Sabbath.
Ahhh. Dragon Sickness. That’s it! Spot on! 🐍 Thank you for taking me back to my childhood and reading The Hobbit. Tolkien correctly identified so many of what can be, and too often is, the awful choices of humans. Humans’ inhumanity to humans.
@@NEMOTHEMORMON Years ago, a good friend of mine went to our bishop to ask for help. Her husband was dying of brain cancer, she was in nursing school and taking care of their two small boys. They lived in subsidized housing and had no food or heat. The bishop refused to help because 'it would mess up the accounting'. He wouldn't even allow the Relief Society president to investigate and offer help. I finally left partly because of this attitude as well as the closing down of compassionate service projects. Church became nothing but endless meetings and angry harangues from the bishopric on how none of us were paying enough tithing and fast offerings. Dragon sickness indeed.
"Jesus Christ has collected Thousands of dollars from me" Congratulations. How did you know it was THE Jesus Christ and not someone from Mexico with the same name? -
Our chapel here in San Antonio was broken into with busted windows all the way around the building with graffiti also. The graffiti was removed but they put boards up to replace the windows. I asked a member of our bishopric when the windows were getting fixed and he said he keeps asking that question and doesn't know. Noone will tell him. With over $200 billion dollars I would think it would have been fixed within a week. They will probably ask for a more generous fast offering from the ward members to get the windows fixed.
yeah, but it's awesome that the church is full of people who have paid tithes for decades and decades when they were young and poor and now, because they paid tithing, are now rich and powerful and the church doesn't need to spend a dime helping them since their cups runneth over! I mean, yeah, maybe there are a few people who pay, pray and obey and do so for 50 or 60 or even 80 years and remain broke as a joke and never get any assistance from the church but that's because a) the Lord is testing them and will reward them BIG TIME in the next life or b) they're bad people and are hiding sin and the Lord won't reward them in this life or the next 'cause He won't let them buy their way into heaven perfect circle of logic! YES! Now, stop asking questions and pay, pay, PAY you sinner!!!!
"It's to bad there aren't any homeless or poor people that could be helped by this money" Truly a shame. If there were such a thing, YOU could help them.
What are you guys even talking about? These videos are a complete joke. The main reason most individuals in this thread agree with these ignorant takes is because you don’t believe in the faith anymore. I think you would find a neutral party not sympathetic to your cause. In fact they would see you as grifters or divorcees looking to get your shots in. Best advice I can give you all is to move on and use that energy to build instead of sit in these chats and wallow in bitterness.
I was a divorced, pregnant mother with 2 little children and lived temporarily in a town I was not familiar with. My x-husband had forbidden me and the children from attending church and I left him. I went to the local Bishop and offered my services in exchange for help with buying groceries. He told me I had not prepared enough for being there in town and turned me down. I was shocked. It didn't affect my new testimony as I had only been a member for a few years, but I learned I couldn't rely on my leaders for assistance. I went on to serve in many callings through the years but I remember the 'sting' of that time so long ago. How do you turn down a young mother who is asking for help?! Every Leader is different and has their own reasons for helping or not. The culture has since changed because back then, how dare I leave my husband no matter the situation! Thanks for your insight and research.
I thought it was now over $200 Billion? I definitely think that Jesus would want the money from HIS Church to be spent on say schools, hospitals, helping the poor, the widows and orphans, and to spread the Gospel. Instead, the Church schools charge students, and missionaries pay for their own missions...
This report has got to be one of the most upsetting reports about the churches financial history that I can recall. Seeing the smug arrogant responses from hinkley to the news reporter make him look that much more demonic and greedy. Ugh, I need to clean my soul after hearing this because it makes one feel so gross knowing there are organizations out there like the lds church. Literally just preying on people.
Thank God that the LDS Church is so divinely inspired to use their funds wisely and save funds for future needs. If other churches were thus inspired they may could do the same.
N Eldon Tanner transformed church finances by creating volunteer skilled employees, known as church service missionaries, highly skilled people who could command large salaries under normal circumstances. CSMs saved the church a billion dollars just in 2010. See pg 136 first paragraph, “The Mormon Hierarchy,” D. Michael Quinn, 2017 Signature Books
I can understand never wanting to be in debt again, but if your penny-pinching succeeded in a $100 billion excess then shouldn’t you USE THAT FOR GOOD?? Clearly was made in shady (maybe illegal) ways.
because they believe the more money that they have, the more proof there is that God is blessing them. They gave themselves a license to take advantage of others, and are teaching other well-meaning men to do the same.
how come we, as members, aren't allowed to believe the very same thing? why are WE, as members, taught that rich men go to hell and hording money is evil but that "The Lord" (you know, same thing as "the church") is fine to stack cash???
@@WatchingwaitingG2D of course I am... served a mission, went to BYU, went to church today! Looks like you're about as inspired as King Noah... Easy to tell!
@rtardbox Sure you did. Next time, you'll say you just went to the temple. You aren't worthy, period. But mention the ward you go to. See what happens in a week mouth.
Very pertinent video, now that the start of Mormon Tax Season is just around the corner! Remember, the same Jesus who could conjure change in the entrails of a fish, needs your cash!!
"Remember, the same Jesus who could conjure change in the entrails of a fish, needs your cash!!" Jesus comes around monthly or so and sells tamales. They are pretty good tamales and I give him a bit of extra cash.
@@hobgoblin1976 "Why work himself, when he can have the sheep work for it and pay his tithes!" There is no WHY. If you can persuade your sheep to work for you, well there you go. Persuading sheep IS work, however. Perhaps you have noticed the donation buttons on these anti-Mormon channels. Whose sheep are you?
@@thomasmaughan4798 Looks like it is you who has work to do. I suggest you go back to the drawing board and starting thinking for yourself. I wish you a quick break of the spell. Time is a precious commodity to spend one's only lifetime dazzled by magical thinking and superstition. All the best!
Don’t worry they are just spending over 5k PER WINDOW PANEL in a temple in northern utah. They are imported from southern America but they don’t look like special sparkly glass or something and they don’t have like UV blocking extra stuff. My hubby is installing them, his company didn’t even want to do it because they are so fragile they break if you breath on them basically but the churches ended up offering them more $ and they are aware that a lot will probably break.
I remember when members were responsible for building the churches and temples. They also cleaned and maintained them. We as members, also used to run all of the welfare farms and canneries to process the food. Now that members are no longer responsible to contribute as much, they also take everything for granted dont have a sense of love and gratitude for what we have. I am greatful for all of the opportunities that i have to learn, and serve God and my neighbor.
@jeffsaxton. Except it isn't really at all CAPITALIST, or anything near that. Preached, Paraded, and Parodied as - at worst/best - a species of genteel, high-minded socialism, it is cunningly formulated and temporarily purified MARXISM Svengallied into some variety of benevolent tyranny, being intended all along for ONE inevitable and most dreaded outcome: DYNASTIC COMMUNISM. Its methodical seduction has never failed in history. China and North Korea testify to this. As does what is left of USSR, which, if God should blink long just once, would be right back in the GULAG. WAKE UP! WAKE UP! "DO NOT BE DEFRAUDED! (of the reality of the ways and workings of THIS WORLD, whose oppressive bottom-feeders claim and convince that THEY are "for the people".) Yes; they are: TO EAT YOU ALIVE. Breakfast. Lunch. Tea. Dinner. And supper. As they have been doing since 1832 +-.
@jeffsaxton. Replied to you previously, but it got sucked into the censor-sluice. CAPITALISM is not the monster. Even though it makes us angry at times (because it DOES leave way for the real s***"-show to be developed by) the REAL darkside djinns. Check out podcast of Jordan Peterson: THE LUCIFERIAN INTELLECT. He examines new book titled The Devil and Karl Marx by Dr. Paul Kengor. You'll be glad you did! 🌹
"The perfect capitalist "church"." Jesus said, "Be ye therefore perfect". Thank you for acknowledging! But I think the Scientologists are more perfect in that regard.
@@thomasmaughan4798 They've invested my tithing very well, so at least pay me the dividends and interest. Use the principal as I intended. To help the poor.
People in general are very creative in the ways they make money. Remember, Jesus was sold out for 30 pieces of silver before his demise. Godspeed to us all.
I was a lackluster, disinterested Mormon when I started dating my devout, Mormon, returned missionary in the early 1980s. He spent 6 years trying to get me worthy enough to marry in the temple. When he gave me the talk about paying my tithing, I told him I’d have to see the church financial statements first. Long story short - he married someone else after a 6 month courtship.
I don't like the way "Jesus Christ" collects my tithing money decade after decade and then when my life gets difficult and I become needful and turn to "him" "he" tells me that "he'll" pray for me and wishes me luck but then lets me live in my car and does nothing to help me. I also don't like the way "My Savior" refuses to refund any of that tithing money I've been giving "him" for decades that "he's" been investing and collecting compound interest on... I mean even Costco gives you ten years or more for returns and refunds if you change your mind!!! Dang that Lord guy!
"I don't like the way Jesus Christ collects my tithing money" How did you know it was him? Is there a different way you prefer tithing to be collected? You can bypass and use ACH direct debit. It's a bit impersonal, but it is a choice.
@@thomasmaughan4798 Gee, why didn't you clip my statement at "I don't like (...) Jesus Christ" and then go on to tell me that not liking Him is a choice He gives me but that He loves me anyway? I mean, hey, if you're gonna parse my statement and then preach to me out of context why not misquote by taking: "I don't like the way "Jesus Christ" collects my tithing money decade after decade and then when my life gets difficult and I become needful and turn to "him" "he" tells me that "he'll" pray for me and wishes me luck but then lets me live in my car and does nothing to help me" and turn it into this: "I don't like Jesus Christ collect(ing) decade(s) (of) my life (as) he tells me he wishes me (to buy a new) car (and generously) help(s) me!" I mean, hey - if you're gonna be stupid be stupid 100%!
There are 3 clothiers in City Creek mall and I'm sure the mall has many eateru choices. Therefore, the churches idea of feeding the hungry and clothing the naked means providing Mr Mac Store and restaurants in the mall.😮
hey - so long as the clothes are free and the food is too ... to those who tithed in the past, i mean ... sounds great to me! i mean.. it is free to those who tithed, right???? :)
When I was a deacon growing up, I used to steal some of the fast offerings I had collected and take it to McDonald's and have a nice sunday brunch. Now I dont feel so bad doing it because it was all going to a corporation. 😅
Jesus Christ doesn't need money. He works Miracles when the need arises. Greedy Church Leaders have an insatiable lust for financial security and refer to it as "Tithing", a Commandment of The Lord and a non-negotiable obligation of Righteous (Temple Worthy) Members.
Keep shouting it from the rooftops, Nemo. I wish more church members were informed about the corporation to which they so freely donate their hard-earned money.
Sigh, that opening clip… it is so manipulative. And it assumes an unquestioning faith in the divinity of Jesus Christ… which itself is far from a settled question. What is a settled question? The church’s claim to divine authority to use the name of Jesus to bludgeon its members into submission with the threat of divine judgment. As in… they have no such authority.
The church has always had investment in church owned business for quite some time, this isn't nothing new. But these funds have always been separate from tithing contributions. The church has always used funds for helping the world in cataphrasies. But for some reason, these contributions in helping the world are never mentioned ..... hmmmm. Another miss leading rumors.
There must be a good reason other than the church didn't want others to know about the true cost of the building program that stopped the annual reporting of finances in 1958, I just can't think of what it would be. Why aren't detailed Financials produced each year or quarter? They were back in 1958.....why the change?
Do you really want to know or do you want to take NEMO’s word for it? It’s so bad that he either implies there is evil intent going on with all things in the LDS church. It’s like asking CNN about Trump or Fox about Biden. This stuff he posts is sucking so many people in that just need a healthier way to discuss their ‘needs’ with the church.
What's the reason then? Why doesn't the church report detailed financials like it used to? There is absolutely ZERO reason to create the multiple shell companies except for the deliberate under reporting requirements. It simply makes the church financial dept look and smell bad. Church members don't need Big Church hiding the truth from them. They can handle it.
@phillipcook3430 you don't have to take Nemos word for it. He posts the sources as to where he got the financial figures. 1. Michael Quinn isn't the most sympathetic church "expert" given his checkered history with the Hoffman debacle and his ulta progressive views. 2. Accounting records and financial statements don't lie- but they can be interpreted differently by progressive/conservative views 3. Facts are facts- just be transparent as to where the funds are going! 4. It is a little bit ironic that the church asks the young women to bring their own craft supplies for girls camp and the budget for the elders quorum for my ward for the entire year is $200 because there supposedly isn't enough money. $100 b is a lot of $...
@@NEMOTHEMORMON ‘The importance of having a sense of the sacred is simply this-if one does not appreciate holy things, he will lose them. Absent a feeling of reverence, he will grow increasingly casual in attitude and lax in conduct. He will drift from the moorings that his covenants with God could provide. His feeling of accountability to God will diminish and then be forgotten. Thereafter, he will care only about his own comfort and satisfying his uncontrolled appetites. Finally, he will come to despise sacred things, even God, and then he will despise himself.’ Is one of your uncontrolled appetites to assign motives to all things LDS history? Honestly I feel bad for you and those that absorb your bitter takes on all things LDS. I’m afraid you will one day regret this waste of your time. In your effort to reveal the ‘truth’ as you see it, the real truth is that you would be happier building others up rather then creating an echo chamber for others to spew their trauma. I’ve spoken to so many former members and every one of them has regretted the time wasted digging up the past and putting it online. Once they realize that they truly became free.
Is it also quite disheartening that the US government continues to allow Mormon inc. the keep it's tax exemption. At this point calling them a church is inaccurate and ridiculous.
This church has gone so far off the rail from the true teachings of Christ. For a prophet to approve dishonesty (making shell companies), is a sign that church leaders are following men's desires. I remember when we used to have a church janitor who cared for the building and grounds. I don't even attend my ward anymore and yet every couple of months I'm 'assigned' to help clean the church building. Too cheap to pay a person and give them a good job. It makes me sick to know the church tells the poor to pay up over feeding your family. The elite get freebies while making the poor pay back loans. All of that and much more would come to light if the church was transparent with the wealth. Yes, I believe many members would stop paying tithing since only pennies are going to the poor.
Utter nonsense. The top full-time leaders get paid squat compared to any company or public office of similar magnitude ... if such exists. Please stop spouting nonsense and broad false logic generalizations. I know first hand that ward Bishops GIVE OUT TENS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS to needy persons. Etc.etc. My goodness!! Please stop this idiotic bait and switch and lies including half truths (sucker lies) and inaccurate clamberings. It's nauseating.
@Latter-dailyDigest. HE ALREADY HAS. And He is at the bench right now, even though IT CERTAINLY doesn't FEEL LIKE IT. OR LOOK LIKE IT. OR SOUND LIKE IT. But this is what the word "FAITH" both means and is. Hard as Hell and nails. 💕
Too many armchair critics here... The only thing the "LDS" Church did, was ask its members to cover light janitorial duties, most of which are nothing more than picking up after themselves snd leaving the restrooms clean and stocked. The Church still maintains a long list of professional maintenance personnel, including plumbers, painters, electrician HVAC and full landscape services (to name a few). The sheer number of "Mormon" meeting houses around the world is simply staggering and there's always a handful being constructed every single week. While none of these new building are ever encombered with mortgages, professional Janitorial services are always expensive and subject to endless fluctuations. In the early days of the Church, it was the members themselves who were tasked with building both temples and meetinghouses. These "Mormon" pioneers did it all and with their own two hands too. Today the Church hires contractors and everything is done according to code. The Old pioneer days are done. Unfortunately this has left many members with nothing to do but occasional welfare assignments. No longer is it "your church" which you built with your own hands, but the property of the corporate church of Salt Lake City. Indeed most "LDS" churches are shared by more than one congregations and no longer confined to the Salt Lake Valley, Utah or even the United States. The international corporate, LDS Church would very much like it's membership to think and feel like pioneers of the past. It is to this end that we're being asked to help clean our Churches.
I’ve heard so many stories of differing amounts of money the Church has. I’ve heard $50 billion, all the way to $200 billion. Does anyone know the actual number?
God doesnt need money. He is self sufficient. If i were God and second coming would happen, i would not use paper as money, i will use Gold and Silver which is real money.
Hinkley's acknowledging the reporter's statement was more than just his normal voice crack. That was a guilty voice crack right there. It's hard to look back and realize someone you respected so much was knee deep in the lies and manipulation.
I’m afraid you are falling for NEMO’s and your own bitterness towards the church. It’s similar to Trump derangement syndrome. Best thing you can do is free yourself of this wasted energy and get some help.
The Parable of the Rich Fool Luke 12:13-21 (ESV) Someone in the crowd said to him, “Teacher, tell my brother to divide the inheritance with me.” But he said to him, “Man, who made me a judge or arbitrator over you?” And he said to them, “Take care, and be on your guard against all covetousness, for one’s life does not consist in the abundance of his possessions.” And he told them a parable, saying, “The land of a rich man produced plentifully, and he thought to himself, ‘What shall I do, for I have nowhere to store my crops?’ And he said, ‘I will do this: I will tear down my barns and build larger ones, and there I will store all my grain and my goods. And I will say to my soul, “Soul, you have ample goods laid up for many years; relax, eat, drink, be merry.”’ But God said to him, ‘Fool! This night your soul is required of you, and the things you have prepared, whose will they be?’ So is the one who lays up treasure for himself and is not rich toward God.”
They gambled against the law with the "Lord's sacred funds". Something i listened to apostles lecture about in training videos for over a decade. I don't even care what it's for or how/if they spend it, its the overwhelming hypocrisies: 12th Article of faith hypocrisy, honest in your dealings temple question hypocrisy, and there's a lie when they signed the SEC document or in their response to it, but either way there's at least one ten commandments breaking lie in there. I'm completely shattered over EP.
Financial transparency should be a precondition for tax-exempt status.
It is here in the UK, it also is for non-religious charities in the US as far as I understand…
"Financial transparency should be a precondition for tax-exempt status."
And so it is. The church makes financials as required to the I.R.S. That's not you, by the way.
It is. Just not in the way you think. But that’s why this video is just another bad take after all the others. Grinding your axe against a church that you don’t believe in but taking everything this gentleman says for truth is in my opinion more foolish.
@thomasmaughan4798 The only reason we know The General Authorities were hiding billions in the first place is because The Washington Post leaked it. If not, the church would still be hiding it.
@@phillipcook3430 Phillip, it is about integrity. INTEGRITY!!!!!
Ironically, our stand-alone non-denominational Christian church gave their financial report today during services. Clear transparency of funds. They also have a third-party auditor who works primarily with churches review all finances each year. It’s been refreshing after the secrecy and dishonesty I saw during the 65 years as an LDS member.
We just started attending another Christian church and it was really surprising to see right in the church pamphlet how much they received the week prior and what their monthly budget is. Kind of refreshing to see that kind of transparency.
Isn’t it great? And seeing how much is being given to legit humanitarian efforts and none going to real estate other than the building we’re in is heartening. I hope you’re as happy in your church as we are in ours. @@bmo5082
@Kaylyn628 thank you for your kind comment.
@@KaylynPNW My non denom Church did the same. It was so refreshing after Mormonism.
This information needs to become public knowledge. Yes dragon sickness seems to fit, but also - money is power and they currently have all of it
They clench an iron fist around their wealth and yet bellyache that they don’t have a lot of money. They make the members clean their chapels now because they don’t want to give a paycheck in their view to a lowly janitor.
My friend was able to be a stay-at-home mom in the late ‘90’s because she cleaned the temple at night as a part-time job.
@lylesnow. 🌈 🌈 🌈!
SUBSTITUTE or
apply the
IRON FIST to the
sociopolitical agenda of
"the church" and you HAVE THE ACTUAL THING and possible end
@lylesnow.
THE 👽 IRON👽 FIST 👽
indeed!
@@anonanon1982whoch temple was that?
@@Dutchess0909 She cleaned the Salt Lake Temple
I'm 74 now but I remember while growing up we had to donate and do money-making projects specifically to build or repair our churches. That was on top of tithing and fast offerings.
The no janitors bothers me a lot, considering how much $ is in the coffers.
Wow, 74 and you've gone from a poor church to a super rich one all while being poor yourself then and staying poor even 'til today! Wow! God's gonna for sure give you a mansion and a fancy car with 10 hot, virgin, horny wives after you die!!!!
The more you suffer the more it shows you really care! Right? Yeah aah yeah!
Yes; I remember the *assessments* to build buildings. Considering that Jesus required some people to give up *everything* I don't mind contributing a couple hundred dollars to building a chapel or temple. I feel great knowing I actually helped with the building of something.
"considering how much $ is in the coffers."
Very few people know how much $ is in coffers. Keeping assets in dollars is stupid. Inflation has destroyed half the value of dollar denominated assets in just a few years (since Joe Biden, more or less).
@@thomasmaughan4798 that's all well and good, but the issue here is ... *WHERE is the reciprocation?* From the looks of it, Jesus is a one-way street that takes and never actually gives anything back... like an insurance company that takes your payments but then when an emergency comes up refuse to pay-up. Oh! But hey! The LDS Church says "your rewards will be great in heaven!" so yeah, there's always that... and I've got a bridge in Brooklyn I can sell you for a song you'll wanna look into!!!
Well there's the "law" of consideration which sounds kinda communist rght abt now 🤔 😅
@@frshbloodOldmemories "Well there's the "law" of consideration which sounds kinda communist rght abt now"
I wonder if you meant "consecration"? Anyway, yes, communism was intended to be wonderful and is the foundation of the Democrat Party. It doesn't actually work because of human nature; the absence of "consideration" (or consecration).
As you probably know, the law of consecration failed pretty quick in the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and for the same reason: Human nature!
But even in the United Order, we do not share toothbrushes. Or clothing. Or spouses. It is more of a co-operative.
Ah, money changers and the Temple.....
🎯
"money changers and the Temple."
I have never succeeded in changing money at the temple.
@@thomasmaughan4798Oh, money is *definitely* changing hands, at Mormon temples. That's if you're part of the "in crowd", which I'm guessing you aren't.
@@starguy2718 "money is definitely changing hands at Mormon temples."
Yes, provided it is understood to mean small amounts of money to rent the special clothing (those that do not already have it) at temples of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
It would be unlikely for vendors to sell their wares inside, or even outside, such temples.
@@starguy2718 liar.
The temples are the modern days Golden Calf.
The Great and spacious buildings, with no expenses. Spared and paying premium to boot. Of course all nepotistic businesses involve.
@@aaronclinger3521 go straight puppet.
And the oxen
It’s never been more clear to me what a scam the whole ball of wax really is.
A chocolate tea pot!!
I’m not a Brit so I don’t know what a chocolate teapot is! Explain please! :)
@@jewelgazerit’s an expression. A teapot made of chocolate would melt when you add the hot water so it’s essentially useless
@@Alyse_bellthanks 😊
Their own scriptural prophet warned them about corrupt churches who love adorning their buildings more than they help the poor and transfigure the word of God for the praise of the world. To which, the Church honors this ancient prophet by making him a golden facsimile to adorn their temple spires. Now that's irony.
@ianstewart8080 get your facts straight, I know it's a word you can't relate to, instead of the same old mistruths.
@@WatchingwaitingG2Dwhat facts did he get wrong? Have you read Mormon Chapter 8 which was written by Moroni? It's a scathing rebuke of the current Mormon/LDS church. Temples are a gross example of adorning church buildings for show instead of giving to the poor. Kevin Pearson has confirmed that the church has no desire to help the poor in direct opposition to both the Bible and BOM.
@@WatchingwaitingG2D I heard on another channel that you get paid by LDS church to discredit and deny accusations made on social media, is that right?
It is interesting how the Book of Mormons warnings seem to be so pertinent to the modern church.
@@bmo5082 in your dreams. Keep pretending.
Honestly how dare they lie to us like this. Generations of families have dedicated their lives to this church, and they have manipulated and abused us in return.
5:30 Hinkley: “[Time magazine] grossly exaggerated the amount.”
Liar liar Garments on fire!
@kenneth. I have always
found that man to be uncommonly arrogant -
unflinching in lying - and just "oozy" in general.
[But often adored (😶)
in RS.]
Very interesting, then, that rmn seems obsessed with out-doing the Hinkley.
At least Hinkley's coarseness in lying was unrestrained and without any fear [of God or of man]; even as he hem-hawed for only a few seconds, he was convinced it was simply HIS RIGHT to blatantly lie.
rmn likes to shine up his apple
first. And will do all necessary [flatter, suck up, lick boots] to
attain to a presentation of "high estate" (both for him- self and for those who fling themselves drunkenly into his CAREFULLY CALCULATED "enchantments") and then deliver his BIG-TOP pronouncements to the frenzied throngs.
gbh just throws out the old Joe Frasier punch and we're done.
rmn - lusty as Delilah - loves to hold that Ether mask over a face until the body is within a breath of being a corpse, and then 🧟! yanks that swimmy mesh back like a lizard looping in a fly.
And when the leaden bones catch a last-minute whiff of air, the doozied primal gasp sounds like a GLORY-
HALLELUJAH! meant to yank stars out of the blue heavens.
Reckon anyone in that state actually HEARS what he's said?
Or gives a pig's ear? 🤠
I wish Brazilian mormons had access to these information. As most Brazilian mormons are less educated and do not speak English, they are much more distant to what really is the mormon church than the rest of the mormons in the world. Poorer members sacrifice too much paying tithing out of their already strained and limited income while the mormon church hoards this insane amount of money. I would say the church indeed helps some people financially and there are some level of connections and entrepreneurship within the church in Brazil which helps some (only some) members to get out of poverty, but most of the members are still very poor and clueless about all of this. Thank you for your work Nemo.
Thanks
Daughter in law from Brazil. Very good people. Don't think they know much about church affairs as in America.
What you call hoarding many people call saving, investing, and preparing for opportunity. I advise you to do the same and be less critical of those that do even if it is an organization.
Example: The LDS church just announced a medical school at BYU that will benefit the international community (Medical schools aren't built by being in debt). I'm sure most people on this channel will find a way to twist that in to a negative light. It really says more about the critic then it does the criticized.
Same thing here in Malaysia.
Excellent sequential report on the financial deceptions by the Mormon Corp/Church. It is time for an independent audit to be disclosed to public, members, and ex-members who left as a result of the corp's fraudulent inducement.
The only fraud going on is likely the fraud of those that leave the LDS church and can’t really admit or understand why they really left and come to these channels to justify their anger towards a ghost that doesn’t even exist.
Fraudulent Inducement is a perfect description of the con mandating tithes to a church, that is really a corporation, hoarding and not disclosing its wealth rather than using the funds for meeting charitable needs (with the 95% given to needy, 5% for the bureaucracy).
A lot of PTSD is caused by overarching religions that discriminate and grind the faces of the poor. The Church is a huge horse and pony show. I worship Jesus Christ not Russel M. Nelson, a fallible man. Apostles primary call is to heal. What miraculous healings took place during COVID? The Church leaders hid and just spewed hot air during COVID, and shuttered the temples. Men of God cowered while Satan destroyed. Christ alone, no man with Christ cowers.
@@phillipcook3430i dont read anger dear. In the early 90's, lots began to surface, through good member's historical research. Sooooo, the church held a whitch hunt: the September 5...
But, on another level, as to real truth: those who have had NDE 's can testify of NO churches NO cathedrals, NO mosques, NO temples etc when we cross pver. NO eternal marriages, NO popes and prophets... NO judgement.... Just unconditional love
"Dragon-sickness. I've seen it before. That look. The terrible need. It is a fierce and jealous love, Bilbo. It sent his grandfather mad." -- Balin in "The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies"
Brilliant reference. I fear you are correct. And the need for transparency about all the gold they are sitting on is driving the Q15 mad.
Thank you for your diligence in research
*Mormoney Jesus*
Oh that’s excellent 😂
@@NEMOTHEMORMON Nemo-The-Great keep up the awesome work. There are many caught between 2 world views due to their new found knowledge of factual truth & thought cave past of those they love. You candid voice is greatly appreciated & needed.
I dont support Jesus's policy to take my tithe to spend on luxury apartment complexes
@@sponko you're just a fake.
This is not Jesus' policy, it is the MORMON Jesus' !
@@paulbrungardt9823 You don't know anything about Jesus. Just another pretender.
@@WatchingwaitingG2Dno Mormon knows anything about Jesus especially the top 15. It's all lip service.
And how he chose to directly lie about how the funds are and aren’t being used via the mouth of his chosen prophet
I am so glad I'm subscribed to your channel. You open up our eyes to how this church is being destroyed by the greed of the leaders. 👍
I will NEVER substitute my Savior's name for this church!
Claiming the Mormon church is synonymous with Jesus is so arrogant, haughty, and indicative of a superiority complex. The LDS church is Jesus’ church in name only.
I don't like the way "Jesus Christ" collects my tithing money decade after decade and then when my life gets difficult and I become needful and turn to "him" "he" tells me that "he'll" pray for me and wishes me luck but then lets me live in my car and does nothing to help me.
I also don't like the way "My Savior" refuses to refund any of that tithing money I've been giving "him" for decades that "he's" been investing and collecting compound interest on... I mean even Costco gives you ten years or more for returns and refunds if you change your mind!!!
Dang that Lord guy!
@@todd212010 🌈🌈. The
claim of the holy name to ANY moniker this hell-spawned "church" calls itself, pretends to be, and many sincere members believe it to be IS BEYOND
anything most of us can believe it can have succeeded in coming to BE!
Just learned today that Karl Marx, in Germany, was writing his version of this montage of hell about same time js was crawling into holes looking for loot.
Remember the DARTMOUTH connection with js and all the comings/goings from U.S. and Europe.
At the kindest, js was an "instrument; at some point, he became a willing accom-
plice to overtake the country.
@@todd212010 WORSE THAN
THAT!
In early 1830s, while KARL MARX was penning (as poetry) his Communist Manifesto,
little js in U.S., was squirming
his way thro' holes in the woods looking for hidden treasure.
At near same age, both were at the work of LUCIFER's own dream!
The
DARTMOUTH CONNECTION was surely the coordinating link. If js was merely made their "instrument", he developed into a complicit agent in the LUCIFERIAN aspirations for complete control of all people and $$$.
So I do belive in Joseph Smith i like to say he was a good guy maybe messed a bit but the BofM is still good. However Brigham young messed this church up as he was an AS$ hole! or MAN and the devil. so I call it "the church of Brigham Young of latter day saints" he set the standrd of ignorance and obedience. I still believe but know the DeVil is inside the church! billie eilish "bad guy" Duh!!
Brilliant video, Nemo. You have a real gift of presenting well-researched information succinctly, accurately and in a way that is easy to follow.
The LDS, like many churches, have become insanely focused on building 'the storehouse' (and misquoting Malachi 3:10).
Glad you enjoyed it!
Misquoting or misapplying?
Replace the word "church" with "Jesus" that guy is speaking blasphemy on so many levels.
Replace the word church with casino . Money goes in gets laundered and doesnt come out. Ensign peak is starting a new business "Hoax Casinos " for when the new president kicks in Dallin H Oaks.......very sad these men are ruining the church .
Thanks!
No problem! Thanks for the support!
Hang on a minute, when Jesus was walking the earth he didn't have any money so why does he now need it
OF chicks and coke is my assumption...
THE 12 WHEN THE SAVIOR WALKED THE EARTH DIDN'T GET PAID A SIX FIGURED SALARY AND THEIR FAMILY WERE SUPPORTED BY THE CHURCH PLUS FREE EDUCATION
"when Jesus was walking the earth he didn't have any money so why does he now need it"
He does not need money. On the other hand, if he is in disguise walking among us, then he will have sufficient for his needs.
Have you seen inflation lately?? 2 talents doesn't buy as much as it did 2000 years ago 😅
Judas was the treasurer for Jesus' ministry. The Israelites possessed gold both in the wilderness and in their land. God has always required tithe, one of the few things that Jesus agreed with the Pharisees on.
On March 15, 2005, Jesus became aware that the public might link this first LLC to Jesus because the person signing the Forms 13F was listed in a public directory as a Jesus follower. To address this issue, on March 21, 2005, the senior leadership of Jesus approved a new reporting entity to be created with “better care being taken to ensure that neither the ‘Street’ nor the media [could] connect the new entity to Ensign Peak.”
The Savior wants your money and He wants it now. Pay up or no salvation for you!!!
Jesus wants your children to go hungry..
NO SOUP FOR YOU!!!! TWO ETERNETIES!!!
"The Savior wants your money and He wants it now."
He prefers obedience. He has no need for money.
@@thomasmaughan4798 yeah... so OBEY "Him" when "he" tells you to give "him" your money ... right? yeah, got your back, bro
@@thomasmaughan4798 Slave masters and apostles want obedience.
Thank you for the only clear and transparent explanation I've ever heard of the church's financial history!!
I was a nursery leader and remember the simple lessons about honesty (using coins sometimes) that leaders in SLC were sure that toddlers would understand, and also my confusion as I bought and sold homes in Utah and was struck by the greed and dishonesty of some active church members (including leaders). Dragon sickness is as relevant today as it was in tales of old!
The good news is that we, as common people, can learn from the church! We can learn that the difference between winners like Jesus and Elon Musk and losers like the lower-class is that winners can just live off of unearned income that stacks cash by use of investments and the power of compound interest way faster than actually earning it! Thanks capitalism and thanks Jesus/LDS Church for a lesson well taught!
Now, follow that example and don't pay your tithing until you have actual increase from the cash you stack from investments. Right? I'm not missing the point, am I? I mean, that's the example to follow right???
@@TheGreatDadoo Hello,
well-intentioned
commenter.
The thing is, the problem is
NOT
CAPITALISM.
It is the MARXIST/ js ploys used by people still trying to
make that socio-economic
drug-trip the actual BASIS and INSTRUMENT for their global rule by which it is THEY who live in debauchery at the expense of those whom they oppress.
js and k. Marx, on opposite sides of the GREAT WATERS, (and, strangely, at about the same chronological age in early 1830s) WERE EACH embarking upon and ABOUT THEIR mutual FATHER'S business!!!
Check out the Jordan Peterson podcast captioned
"The LUCIFERIAN INTELLECT" with author of book titled
The Devil and Karl Marx
(by Dr. Paul Kengor).
Hope it helps. 🌹
Definitely appears to be hoarding. Makes me feel sick that I donated to this “cause “ for years.
20 years for me 😢
65 for me. Dats a lotta tithing. 😬@@anonanon1982
"Definitely appears to be hoarding"
Hoarding cash is incredibly stupid. Nobody with more than a couple thousand dollars keeps it in *dollars* but invests it.
@@thomasmaughan4798I bet you wish you had gobs of cash sitting around to open up options for you and your family. This stuff is such a pathetic take on the LDS churches finances. Just wait and see another 20 years and you will see how wise it was.
"Send me money, send me green Heaven you will meet. Make a contribution and you'll get a better seat. Bow to Leper Messiah".
The better seat comes from obeying the two Great Commandments.
i cant imagine how JESUS would feel about the church insists, under the penalty of burning, that a dirt poor family should give the church money, whether or not doing so would take food out of their childrens mouth.
@jamesmorphe. 🌈🌈🌈
HERE is BLASPHEMY of the
Holy. Spirit.
🔥
Anti-Christic "doctrine".
All-out. So many ways.
Thanks to Nemo for RIGHTLY
DEMANDING, "WHEN is
enough. ENOUGH?"
Jesus helped people (cured them from illnesses, fed them, and so on) without asking any money anywhere. He told his disciples (Matthew 10:8) "You received free, give free."
"i cant imagine how JESUS would feel about the church"
Finally some true words.
…so that’s what they mean by, “follow the profit” ok got it!
😂
@BGCflyer. Yes. Straight
down the long water- slide and
splat into hell.
Forging. FORCING.
Smorgasbording.
And
Smirking all the way.
Share and like this.... let's all get our money back... paid for our time and talents back... and stop the abuse by this money pit of blood suckers!
Good luck with that. The vitriol in all of these comments are both foolish and childish.
Guaranteed to be much more than that too, they are so secretive and use shell companies
Always great information
Thanks for watching!
(Disclaimer: I haven't paid a church tithe since 1991, when Lavinia Fielding was exco'd for defying certain general authorities' demands that she stop publishing instances of sex abuse in Mormondom.)
Disclosure is a separate issue from funding the mall, rescuing a legacy Mormon insurance co., and misspeaking about both. The mall was an effort to protect the vicinity of Temple Sq from urban decay. Do Catholics complain about costs to maintain the Vatican? Also, if you have the $$, it's understandable to bail out a failing insur co. that for decades was quasi-church and later informally affiliated, the failure of which would bankrupt many longtime subscribers. But nondisclosure to the people whose money it is (Jesus made it clear money pertains to Caesar, not Himself nor presumably His church) is misguided and damaging. Also, "fibbing" about project funds, whether intentionally or thru neglect of due diligence before speaking, needs to change. These practices do not constitute merely the appearance of evil but evil itself.
My mother and father worked as custodians in our local LDS Church for 11 years until my father retired.
I remember helping them mop the gym vacuum the floors and mow the lawn.
They took care of everything, even the flowers.
After my father passed away my mother was insured by DMBA church insurance.
I am glad they was there for her until she passed.
Now days me my own family still helps clean the church when we are asked getting it ready for the Sunday service.
I don't ever remember being paid for it, but it's a service I am glad to offer when I can.
I’m sure the Lord appreciated their hard work ❤ the tithe is a commandment from God. It’s a hard one to follow but will be blessed in doing so. I wish many here in these comments understood that. As was for told in the last days many saints will fall away because they don’t truly understand and follow the Lord. It saddens my heart to see the spirit of contention all around. The Lords ways are not of this world. If you don’t understand it then you need to seek for the Lord even more. God bless
@@TheLifeProject-rs1jw
The tithe is. Not. A .commandment from God.
It is a manipulative,
malignant, and vampiric MANDATE of men.
First, Eli's son's abused it [ISam. 2:12-17, 22, 23, 24, 25,
THIS is what Malachi addresses;
And God proceeds to inform Samuel what HE would do about it, ch. 3;10, 11,12,13,14,
NON-jst]
I Sam. 22:1 - 22.
It really grinds my gears that a church that has over 100 billion dollars in reserves requires its members to volunteer hours on the weekend to clean the local meetinghouses. In years past, the church used to employ custodians to clean the local meetinghouses. The church has no problem with paying janitors to work on the Sabbath during General Conference. I remember seeing a janitor cleaning up the bathroom inside the Conference Center on Sunday during General Conference when attended the Sunday Afternoon Session back in April 2019. Even the janitor mentioned that this was the first job he ever had that required him to work on the Sabbath.
Ahhh. Dragon Sickness. That’s it! Spot on! 🐍 Thank you for taking me back to my childhood and reading The Hobbit. Tolkien correctly identified so many of what can be, and too often is, the awful choices of humans. Humans’ inhumanity to humans.
The church should be listed as a scam.
Show me the shekels!
Excellent logic and explanation of the facts.
I’m glad you liked it!
Jesus Christ has collected Thousands of dollars from me and has left me high and dry when I needed it the most.
Unfortunately I hear this a lot
@@NEMOTHEMORMON Years ago, a good friend of mine went to our bishop to ask for help. Her husband was dying of brain cancer, she was in nursing school and taking care of their two small boys. They lived in subsidized housing and had no food or heat. The bishop refused to help because 'it would mess up the accounting'. He wouldn't even allow the Relief Society president to investigate and offer help.
I finally left partly because of this attitude as well as the closing down of compassionate service projects. Church became nothing but endless meetings and angry harangues from the bishopric on how none of us were paying enough tithing and fast offerings. Dragon sickness indeed.
"Jesus Christ has collected Thousands of dollars from me"
Congratulations. How did you know it was THE Jesus Christ and not someone from Mexico with the same name? -
@@Brighid45 That's unfortunate but I would like to hear both sides of the story.
@@phillipcook3430 It happened to me. I would like to know the other side of my story because all I got was an excuse.
Our chapel here in San Antonio was broken into with busted windows all the way around the building with graffiti also. The graffiti was removed but they put boards up to replace the windows. I asked a member of our bishopric when the windows were getting fixed and he said he keeps asking that question and doesn't know. Noone will tell him. With over $200 billion dollars I would think it would have been fixed within a week. They will probably ask for a more generous fast offering from the ward members to get the windows fixed.
@10:32 The Twelfth Of Never! Hahaha, that's Brilliant!
"The Church is Poor, They're Irresponsible & Evil"
"The Church is Rich, They're Selfish & Evil" You're Funny!! :D
Well, I learned a lot today about the churches finances
I’m very glad!
@mstringham.
And, hopefully, ABOUT THE
"church"?
Thank you for the information.
Any time!
Joseph Smith and his family had dragon fever and it has just continued with the leadership of each generation.
Good book on this by Kathleen Kimball Melonakos, Secret Combinations, Evidence of Early Mormon Counterfeiting.
It's to bad there aren't any homeless or poor people that could be helped by this money
yeah, but it's awesome that the church is full of people who have paid tithes for decades and decades when they were young and poor and now, because they paid tithing, are now rich and powerful and the church doesn't need to spend a dime helping them since their cups runneth over! I mean, yeah, maybe there are a few people who pay, pray and obey and do so for 50 or 60 or even 80 years and remain broke as a joke and never get any assistance from the church but that's because a) the Lord is testing them and will reward them BIG TIME in the next life or b) they're bad people and are hiding sin and the Lord won't reward them in this life or the next 'cause He won't let them buy their way into heaven
perfect circle of logic! YES! Now, stop asking questions and pay, pay, PAY you sinner!!!!
Such a shame indeed
"It's to bad there aren't any homeless or poor people that could be helped by this money"
Truly a shame. If there were such a thing, YOU could help them.
What are you guys even talking about? These videos are a complete joke. The main reason most individuals in this thread agree with these ignorant takes is because you don’t believe in the faith anymore. I think you would find a neutral party not sympathetic to your cause. In fact they would see you as grifters or divorcees looking to get your shots in. Best advice I can give you all is to move on and use that energy to build instead of sit in these chats and wallow in bitterness.
@@thomasmaughan4798 So you want me to use my tax free 100s of billions to help them? Why didn't I think of that?
Thank you for including the references. I enjoy these informational videos.
I was a divorced, pregnant mother with 2 little children and lived temporarily in a town I was not familiar with. My x-husband had forbidden me and the children from attending church and I left him. I went to the local Bishop and offered my services in exchange for help with buying groceries. He told me I had not prepared enough for being there in town and turned me down. I was shocked. It didn't affect my new testimony as I had only been a member for a few years, but I learned I couldn't rely on my leaders for assistance.
I went on to serve in many callings through the years but I remember the 'sting' of that time so long ago. How do you turn down a young mother who is asking for help?! Every Leader is different and has their own reasons for helping or not. The culture has since changed because back then, how dare I leave my husband no matter the situation!
Thanks for your insight and research.
The opening. Oh gosh. It’s all about “The Church,” and not about God! Why is “the church,” supposed to replace Jesus? When was this talk given?
In the last couple of years 😬
I thought it was now over $200 Billion? I definitely think that Jesus would want the money from HIS Church to be spent on say schools, hospitals, helping the poor, the widows and orphans, and to spread the Gospel. Instead, the Church schools charge students, and missionaries pay for their own missions...
This report has got to be one of the most upsetting reports about the churches financial history that I can recall. Seeing the smug arrogant responses from hinkley to the news reporter make him look that much more demonic and greedy. Ugh, I need to clean my soul after hearing this because it makes one feel so gross knowing there are organizations out there like the lds church. Literally just preying on people.
Thank God that the LDS Church is so divinely inspired to use their funds wisely and save funds for future needs. If other churches were thus inspired they may could do the same.
Exactly what Jesus taught, right?
@@jeffs4483 evidently.
"You received free, give freely "- Jesus
"Pay Caesars things to Caesar, but God's thing(not money)... to god".- also Jesus.
Now I don't feel guilty about no longer paying tithing
Thank you for this meaty morsel, Nemo.
My pleasure!
N Eldon Tanner transformed church finances by creating volunteer skilled employees, known as church service missionaries, highly skilled people who could command large salaries under normal circumstances. CSMs saved the church a billion dollars just in 2010. See pg 136 first paragraph, “The Mormon Hierarchy,” D. Michael Quinn, 2017 Signature Books
I can understand never wanting to be in debt again, but if your penny-pinching succeeded in a $100 billion excess then shouldn’t you USE THAT FOR GOOD?? Clearly was made in shady (maybe illegal) ways.
because they believe the more money that they have, the more proof there is that God is blessing them. They gave themselves a license to take advantage of others, and are teaching other well-meaning men to do the same.
@@YogiTheBearMan quiet dipstick.
how come we, as members, aren't allowed to believe the very same thing? why are WE, as members, taught that rich men go to hell and hording money is evil but that "The Lord" (you know, same thing as "the church") is fine to stack cash???
@@TheGreatDadoo You're not a member. Easy to tell.
@@WatchingwaitingG2D of course I am... served a mission, went to BYU, went to church today! Looks like you're about as inspired as King Noah... Easy to tell!
@rtardbox Sure you did. Next time, you'll say you just went to the temple. You aren't worthy, period. But mention the ward you go to. See what happens in a week mouth.
I have to take exception to one thing. Jesus isn’t hoarding anything; it’s this church!
I hope that the distinction is clear!
It’s clear to me and most people, it’s less clear to the church leaders who conflate themselves with Jesus.
@@NEMOTHEMORMON
YES-SIRREE, BOB!
THANK YOU for that
POTENT and PATENT
distinction. Can we get it
up in Marquee lights
in Times Square?
"Jesus isn’t hoarding anything"
In a sense, Jesus is hoarding the entire universe.
Very pertinent video, now that the start of Mormon Tax Season is just around the corner! Remember, the same Jesus who could conjure change in the entrails of a fish, needs your cash!!
"Remember, the same Jesus who could conjure change in the entrails of a fish, needs your cash!!"
Jesus comes around monthly or so and sells tamales. They are pretty good tamales and I give him a bit of extra cash.
@@thomasmaughan4798 No he won't! :0) Why work himself, when he can have the sheep work for it and pay his tithes!
@@hobgoblin1976 "Why work himself, when he can have the sheep work for it and pay his tithes!"
There is no WHY. If you can persuade your sheep to work for you, well there you go. Persuading sheep IS work, however.
Perhaps you have noticed the donation buttons on these anti-Mormon channels. Whose sheep are you?
@@thomasmaughan4798 Looks like it is you who has work to do. I suggest you go back to the drawing board and starting thinking for yourself. I wish you a quick break of the spell. Time is a precious commodity to spend one's only lifetime dazzled by magical thinking and superstition. All the best!
Don’t worry they are just spending over 5k PER WINDOW PANEL in a temple in northern utah. They are imported from southern America but they don’t look like special sparkly glass or something and they don’t have like UV blocking extra stuff.
My hubby is installing them, his company didn’t even want to do it because they are so fragile they break if you breath on them basically but the churches ended up offering them more $ and they are aware that a lot will probably break.
I remember when members were responsible for building the churches and temples. They also cleaned and maintained them. We as members, also used to run all of the welfare farms and canneries to process the food. Now that members are no longer responsible to contribute as much, they also take everything for granted dont have a sense of love and gratitude for what we have. I am greatful for all of the opportunities that i have to learn, and serve God and my neighbor.
The perfect capitalist "church".
@jeffsaxton. Except it isn't
really at all CAPITALIST, or anything near that.
Preached, Paraded, and Parodied as - at worst/best -
a species of genteel,
high-minded socialism, it is
cunningly formulated and
temporarily purified MARXISM
Svengallied into some variety of benevolent tyranny, being intended all along for ONE inevitable and most dreaded outcome:
DYNASTIC COMMUNISM.
Its methodical seduction has
never failed in history.
China and North Korea testify to this. As does what is left of USSR, which, if God should blink long just once, would be right back in the GULAG.
WAKE UP! WAKE UP!
"DO NOT BE DEFRAUDED!
(of the reality of the ways and workings of THIS
WORLD,
whose oppressive bottom-feeders claim and convince that THEY are
"for the people".)
Yes; they are: TO EAT YOU ALIVE. Breakfast. Lunch.
Tea. Dinner.
And supper.
As they have been doing since 1832 +-.
@jeffsaxton. Replied to you
previously, but it got sucked into the censor-sluice.
CAPITALISM is not the monster. Even though it makes us angry at times (because it DOES leave way for the real s***"-show to be developed by) the REAL
darkside djinns.
Check out podcast of Jordan Peterson: THE LUCIFERIAN
INTELLECT.
He examines new book titled The Devil and Karl Marx by
Dr. Paul Kengor.
You'll be glad you did! 🌹
"The perfect capitalist "church"."
Jesus said, "Be ye therefore perfect". Thank you for acknowledging! But I think the Scientologists are more perfect in that regard.
@@thomasmaughan4798 They've invested my tithing very well, so at least pay me the dividends and interest. Use the principal as I intended. To help the poor.
Dragon sickness is the perfect description!
People in general are very creative in the ways they make money. Remember, Jesus was sold out for 30 pieces of silver before his demise. Godspeed to us all.
I always knew Mormon stood for More Money.
fear, speed, greed......
I was a lackluster, disinterested Mormon when I started dating my devout, Mormon, returned missionary in the early 1980s. He spent 6 years trying to get me worthy enough to marry in the temple. When he gave me the talk about paying my tithing, I told him I’d have to see the church financial statements first. Long story short - he married someone else after a 6 month courtship.
The largest expense for corps is labor. They take advantage of free labor.
Great vid!
I don't like the way "Jesus Christ" collects my tithing money decade after decade and then when my life gets difficult and I become needful and turn to "him" "he" tells me that "he'll" pray for me and wishes me luck but then lets me live in my car and does nothing to help me.
I also don't like the way "My Savior" refuses to refund any of that tithing money I've been giving "him" for decades that "he's" been investing and collecting compound interest on... I mean even Costco gives you ten years or more for returns and refunds if you change your mind!!!
Dang that Lord guy!
@rtardbox. Oh! You mean
LORD NELSON?
"I don't like the way Jesus Christ collects my tithing money"
How did you know it was him? Is there a different way you prefer tithing to be collected? You can bypass and use ACH direct debit. It's a bit impersonal, but it is a choice.
@@thomasmaughan4798 Gee, why didn't you clip my statement at "I don't like (...) Jesus Christ" and then go on to tell me that not liking Him is a choice He gives me but that He loves me anyway? I mean, hey, if you're gonna parse my statement and then preach to me out of context why not misquote by taking:
"I don't like the way "Jesus Christ" collects my tithing money decade after decade and then when my life gets difficult and I become needful and turn to "him" "he" tells me that "he'll" pray for me and wishes me luck but then lets me live in my car and does nothing to help me"
and turn it into this:
"I don't like Jesus Christ collect(ing) decade(s) (of) my life (as) he tells me he wishes me (to buy a new) car (and generously) help(s) me!"
I mean, hey - if you're gonna be stupid be stupid 100%!
There are 3 clothiers in City Creek mall and I'm sure the mall has many eateru choices. Therefore, the churches idea of feeding the hungry and clothing the naked means providing Mr Mac Store and restaurants in the mall.😮
@jaylarsen. GREAT. 🌈🌈🌈
hey - so long as the clothes are free and the food is too ... to those who tithed in the past, i mean ... sounds great to me! i mean.. it is free to those who tithed, right???? :)
When I was a deacon growing up, I used to steal some of the fast offerings I had collected and take it to McDonald's and have a nice sunday brunch. Now I dont feel so bad doing it because it was all going to a corporation. 😅
They certainly do resemble dragons in more ways than one.
Jesus Christ doesn't need money. He works Miracles when the need arises. Greedy Church Leaders have an insatiable lust for financial security and refer to it as "Tithing", a Commandment of The Lord and a non-negotiable obligation of Righteous (Temple Worthy) Members.
Keep shouting it from the rooftops, Nemo. I wish more church members were informed about the corporation to which they so freely donate their hard-earned money.
Sigh, that opening clip… it is so manipulative. And it assumes an unquestioning faith in the divinity of Jesus Christ… which itself is far from a settled question. What is a settled question? The church’s claim to divine authority to use the name of Jesus to bludgeon its members into submission with the threat of divine judgment. As in… they have no such authority.
The church has always had investment in church owned business for quite some time, this isn't nothing new. But these funds have always been separate from tithing contributions. The church has always used funds for helping the world in cataphrasies. But for some reason, these contributions in helping the world are never mentioned ..... hmmmm. Another miss leading rumors.
Yeppir. One more example of cherry picking by critics of the Church. False logic all over the place and selective amnesia.
Awesome show, they literally don't want anything to be known
There must be a good reason other than the church didn't want others to know about the true cost of the building program that stopped the annual reporting of finances in 1958, I just can't think of what it would be. Why aren't detailed Financials produced each year or quarter? They were back in 1958.....why the change?
Do you really want to know or do you want to take NEMO’s word for it? It’s so bad that he either implies there is evil intent going on with all things in the LDS church. It’s like asking CNN about Trump or Fox about Biden. This stuff he posts is sucking so many people in that just need a healthier way to discuss their ‘needs’ with the church.
What's the reason then? Why doesn't the church report detailed financials like it used to? There is absolutely ZERO reason to create the multiple shell companies except for the deliberate under reporting requirements. It simply makes the church financial dept look and smell bad. Church members don't need Big Church hiding the truth from them. They can handle it.
@phillipcook3430 you don't have to take Nemos word for it. He posts the sources as to where he got the financial figures. 1. Michael Quinn isn't the most sympathetic church "expert" given his checkered history with the Hoffman debacle and his ulta progressive views. 2. Accounting records and financial statements don't lie- but they can be interpreted differently by progressive/conservative views
3. Facts are facts- just be transparent as to where the funds are going!
4. It is a little bit ironic that the church asks the young women to bring their own craft supplies for girls camp and the budget for the elders quorum for my ward for the entire year is $200 because there supposedly isn't enough money. $100 b is a lot of $...
Thank you Nemo!
Latter-day Slush fund.
@seph4667.
FLUSH🤮SLUSH.
I get so tired of people using God's name in order to make money, which is pretty much every religion on earth
That’s the real definition of blasphemy in my opinion
@@NEMOTHEMORMON
💕💕💕
"I get so tired of people using God's name in order to make money"
So what were you planning on doing about it?
@@NEMOTHEMORMON
‘The importance of having a sense of the sacred is simply this-if one does not appreciate holy things, he will lose them. Absent a feeling of reverence, he will grow increasingly casual in attitude and lax in conduct. He will drift from the moorings that his covenants with God could provide. His feeling of accountability to God will diminish and then be forgotten. Thereafter, he will care only about his own comfort and satisfying his uncontrolled appetites. Finally, he will come to despise sacred things, even God, and then he will despise himself.’
Is one of your uncontrolled appetites to assign motives to all things LDS history? Honestly I feel bad for you and those that absorb your bitter takes on all things LDS. I’m afraid you will one day regret this waste of your time. In your effort to reveal the ‘truth’ as you see it, the real truth is that you would be happier building others up rather then creating an echo chamber for others to spew their trauma. I’ve spoken to so many former members and every one of them has regretted the time wasted digging up the past and putting it online. Once they realize that they truly became free.
Is it also quite disheartening that the US government continues to allow Mormon inc. the keep it's tax exemption. At this point calling them a church is inaccurate and ridiculous.
I think dragons are a little more honest and by far much cooler.
"dragons are a little more honest and by far much cooler."
Most dragons are warmer; seems to me. Perhaps you are thinking of Asian water dragons.
yep...the dragon, what God refers to all throughout His Word.
Perhaps Paul Simon could be invited to write a hymn for the new hymnbook:
Singing me and portfolio down by the churchyard.
You nailed it. Yes, it’s Dragon sickness. If Jesus were here I think he’d throw them money changers out of the temple.
@Jayjays964. Don't worry;
HE WILL.
We may not get to see it,
but HE will.
It is HIS NAME He LIVES UP TO. 🌹🌹
This church has gone so far off the rail from the true teachings of Christ. For a prophet to approve dishonesty (making shell companies), is a sign that church leaders are following men's desires. I remember when we used to have a church janitor who cared for the building and grounds. I don't even attend my ward anymore and yet every couple of months I'm 'assigned' to help clean the church building. Too cheap to pay a person and give them a good job. It makes me sick to know the church tells the poor to pay up over feeding your family. The elite get freebies while making the poor pay back loans. All of that and much more would come to light if the church was transparent with the wealth. Yes, I believe many members would stop paying tithing since only pennies are going to the poor.
Utter nonsense. The top full-time leaders get paid squat compared to any company or public office of similar magnitude ... if such exists.
Please stop spouting nonsense and broad false logic generalizations.
I know first hand that ward Bishops GIVE OUT TENS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS to needy persons. Etc.etc.
My goodness!! Please stop this idiotic bait and switch and lies including half truths (sucker lies) and inaccurate clamberings. It's nauseating.
The Savior will have to defend himself in court
@Latter-dailyDigest.
HE ALREADY HAS.
And He is at the bench right now, even though IT CERTAINLY doesn't
FEEL LIKE IT.
OR LOOK LIKE IT.
OR SOUND LIKE IT.
But this is what the word "FAITH" both means and is.
Hard as Hell and nails. 💕
Too many armchair critics here... The only thing the "LDS" Church did, was ask its members to cover light janitorial duties, most of which are nothing more than picking up after themselves snd leaving the restrooms clean and stocked.
The Church still maintains a long list of professional maintenance personnel, including plumbers, painters, electrician HVAC and full landscape services (to name a few).
The sheer number of "Mormon" meeting houses around the world is simply staggering and there's always a handful being constructed every single week.
While none of these new building are ever encombered with mortgages, professional Janitorial services are always expensive and subject to endless fluctuations.
In the early days of the Church, it was the members themselves who were tasked with building both temples and meetinghouses. These "Mormon" pioneers did it all and with their own two hands too.
Today the Church hires contractors and everything is done according to code. The Old pioneer days are done.
Unfortunately this has left many members with nothing to do but occasional welfare assignments. No longer is it "your church" which you built with your own hands, but the property of the corporate church of Salt Lake City.
Indeed most "LDS" churches are shared by more than one congregations and no longer confined to the Salt Lake Valley, Utah or even the United States.
The international corporate, LDS Church would very much like it's membership to think and feel like pioneers of the past. It is to this end that we're being asked to help clean our Churches.
Dragon Cancer more like it!!
How do we know it’s $100b? I’m looking for the source
It’s in the description
I’ve heard so many stories of differing amounts of money the Church has. I’ve heard $50 billion, all the way to $200 billion. Does anyone know the actual number?
God doesnt need money. He is self sufficient. If i were God and second coming would happen, i would not use paper as money, i will use Gold and Silver which is real money.
Eight buildings in Scotland up for sale
Hinkley's acknowledging the reporter's statement was more than just his normal voice crack. That was a guilty voice crack right there. It's hard to look back and realize someone you respected so much was knee deep in the lies and manipulation.
I’m afraid you are falling for NEMO’s and your own bitterness towards the church. It’s similar to Trump derangement syndrome. Best thing you can do is free yourself of this wasted energy and get some help.
The Parable of the Rich Fool
Luke 12:13-21 (ESV)
Someone in the crowd said to him, “Teacher, tell my brother to divide the inheritance with me.” But he said to him, “Man, who made me a judge or arbitrator over you?”
And he said to them, “Take care, and be on your guard against all covetousness, for one’s life does not consist in the abundance of his possessions.”
And he told them a parable, saying, “The land of a rich man produced plentifully, and he thought to himself, ‘What shall I do, for I have nowhere to store my crops?’ And he said, ‘I will do this: I will tear down my barns and build larger ones, and there I will store all my grain and my goods. And I will say to my soul, “Soul, you have ample goods laid up for many years; relax, eat, drink, be merry.”’ But God said to him, ‘Fool! This night your soul is required of you, and the things you have prepared, whose will they be?’ So is the one who lays up treasure for himself and is not rich toward God.”
They gambled against the law with the "Lord's sacred funds". Something i listened to apostles lecture about in training videos for over a decade. I don't even care what it's for or how/if they spend it, its the overwhelming hypocrisies: 12th Article of faith hypocrisy, honest in your dealings temple question hypocrisy, and there's a lie when they signed the SEC document or in their response to it, but either way there's at least one ten commandments breaking lie in there. I'm completely shattered over EP.