@@ezioassassain I'd argue they find realism novel on paper, but find it gets boring fast in practice. And only when arcade elements/creative liberties are injected in, they begin to have more fun
@@justgoldman1826 yes, rdr2 has a lot of that, especially song sequences like Cruel Cruel World. Unshaken is great though no complaints about that, fitting song
You need to learn more about westerns cause RDr2 depicts western life far more accurate RDR1 depicts spaghetti westerns more, which is its own brand. Not the only type of western stories
RDR1 in general has an atmosphere that's very different from 2. The whole game, you feel as if you're alone in the world. Almost like the whole game could take place in John's purgatory. There's an uncanny valley nature to the game, which is helped by the music. Helped by how many people you meet in Stranger missions are basically insane.
Yeah the amount of crazy stranger missions and the eerily divine stuff like the strange man being Cain from the Bible makes it feel kinda like Stephen King’s book “The Gunslinger”
Exactly. You've voiced something I had on my mind for years now but couldn't describe. The eeriness, loneliness, and the melancholy of that game are something I really miss in rdr2 and gaming in general. I really like the setting and the story of rdr2, but sometimes I wonder what if they went westward. What if the gang wasn't around. What if it was still a lonely and a surreal journey through a hostile land with little civilization and sparse settlements. Wish they'd make the 3rd game like that
The thing with the RDR1 soundtrack is that every region has its score around A minor scale, and the RDR composers separated by layers those tracks, and somehow they share the same bpm. The thing is that, depending on the location or the situation of the character, slight different versions of the same score (with more or less layers) will sound, and you can be in a very chilly situation that suddenly the situation and the music changes but some layers from seconds ago will remain and it merges perfectly to the whole new situation. It’s such an awesome and brilliant concept.
thing is they don't talka bout it being the same , it's just better on rdr 1 , same one , different version , new one , doesn't matter it still way better ambient music in rdr 1
When I was a kid, and I beat the game. I was always on edge by the music, thinking somebody was gonna come out and rob Beecher's Hope. Weird to say, but that's a feeling I got often.
GTA 4 2008 and rdr1 2011 I believe will always be rockstars best work they hit the atmosphere right on the head we were so privileged to experience these games together
I’d agree w the setting and story too; rdr2 had us running from the snowy Rockies to the Appalachians and the swamps of Louisiana, 2/3 of rdr1 was Texas and Mexico
I played Red Dead at 10 years old and it changed me. I then played Red Dead 2 at 18 and it changed me again. These games taught me more about human flaws, psychological greed of man, loyalty, honour.. than any school. It taught me good people do bad things, and bad people can pretend to be your friend. John and Arthurs story revolve around Dutch and his decline. The mental illness of their mentor and eventual realization of themselves as their own man, with their own code. It's depressingly beautiful. Just like human nature
Nothing, absolutely nothing beats "far away" from Jose Gonzales moment when you enter Mexico in Rd1. You are not expecting it and it is just one of the best moments in video games ever. Rdr2 Soundtrack is beautiful but not the same level as Rdr1.
every summer i always replay Red Dead Redemption 1. right now i'm replaying again which i'm at Mexico doing side missions before i do the main missions.
Of course I love rdr2 and still play it…but the ATMOSPHERE, the vibe, of RDR1 is so deep, so eerie, so compelling that it makes it feel bigger than it really is. Still my favorite on ambience alone
@@precisism1804of a sprawling, low intensity open world game, I would say 100%. A lot of modern open world games (Ubisoft)just take a single player action games mechanics and stick it into an open world, giving the illusion that open world is always better. But for me open world's are meant to be lived in, explored and felt. Music, art design,, a likeable main character, solid writing, and interesting characters and locations to find are what make an open world for me.
Something to note is how the whole RDR1 soundtrack is made in A minor, which helps so much to create familiarity between the tracks. Words cannot describe how the music of that game made me feel. RDR2 music felt really uninspired instead (I'd even dare to say mediocre although that seems a bit harsh), despite venturing into other keys
It's ok, you're allowed to criticize RDR2. I'd go as far as to say RDR2 was one of the most disappointing games of all time. As someone who played through RDR1 several times and got 100%, it's easy to say I'm nostalgia biased but also people have recency bias. I appreciate the insane effort and attention to detail Rockstar made with RDR2 but in no way is it a better game. It's not even close.
@@stephenp2174 I disagree with you regarding your statement that RDR2 is inferior, I'd instead advocate that RDR2 plays to different strengths than RDR does. Although RDR does have a better story and "western" esque atmosphere, I believe that RDR2 makes up for those elements in terms of its open world design.
@@stephenp2174I agree, when rdr2 came out it was huge and everybody just loved it. Having played the first game before it left something to be desired. The combat and ragdoll physics were disappointing compared to rdr1. It took some years but people are now seeing how damn classic the first game is
@@julienvalley28 lol I'm sick of that argument too. "It's not worse, just different." There's nothing RDR2 did open world wise, that RDR1 didn't already do better. I.e bounty hunting, cheating at poker, hunting... holding buttons to get different dialogue during "random encounters" isn't better.
@@stephenp2174 My god FINALLY someone that says the truth, THANK YOU!! In my case nostalgia doesn't work because I played RDR1 for the first time in 2017, one year before RDR2 came out. And I prefer RDR1 by far!
Red Dead 2 is supposed to be the continuation to what occurred in Blackwater but you’re still living the life you knew with a family. In Red Dead 1, you’re putting everything you once knew behind, but mainly, you’re completely alone while doing it. Red dead 1 has always felt lonely, most games released at that time did, so I think the soundtrack is appropriate.
When you're at beetcher's with your family, it's really great. But i wish we had more missions (activities too, like throwing horseshoes with jack for exemple...) to really feel like we are home, no more alone But we really have this loneliness feeling throughout the game, even if we meet people and all, then chill with our family, and then as jack feeling lonely more than in any other game imo
I have this very intense nostalgia when I play rdr1 now. It’s so special to me. I miss those days getting up early in the morning and turning on my Xbox 360. You just had to be there. Wish we could go back to those times. They were something
there's just something about rdr1's ambiance that draws me in more than the second one does, despite the graphical impairment and janky animations it just feels more vibey and artistic than the late one, most likely due the color palette and skybox, the sad thing that i've been noticing in the graphical direction videogames are taking is that they're progressively enhancing in graphical fidelity on the other hand losing that artistic charm, its literally happening in every single videogame ever and it just fills me with dissapointment games are getting more blander and uninspired trying to reach that graphical magnum opus, making everything look grounded and highly detailed while missing that incredible immersive aesthetic and lightning that made them standout they be focusing more on photorealism than anything they just won't understand that artstyle and lightning is what makes a game timeless rather than any clarity or 4k textures they can pull off
Yes, I agree. Not only that, but current games are also poorly optimized and consume a lot of power, forcing you to always have better hardware on your PC in order to play.
rdr1 was also trying to be realistic, its just that they focused on different aesthetics and styles, rdr2 is a beautifully stylized game, people think a game with style means it has to have unrealistic or heavily stylized graphics but that's not true, rdr2 still has a style, and even tho its hard to describe, you do feel it, i think it has something to do with how smooth the image looks, the textures from up close look like they're bad quality but staring at a view in the game just looks beautiful, rdr 2 focused on the wilderness and the beauty of nature, and no game feels more alive in that sense, while rdr1 focused on its inspirations from teh old cowboy movies, they both have different styles and they pulled them off perfectly, rdr2 is not worse, it's just difference
@@DaxanDaxter I didn't say that it should be "unrealistic" and I never said rdr2 looks bad overall, see rdr1's aesthetic perfectly nailed that sweet spot that blends both realism and style and that's what made it look brilliant, it looked both grounded and stylish, pretty much rdr1's spaghetti western aesthetic draws me in even more than rdr2's generic smooth wilderness aesthetic that's been common with every single videogame lately, with that I prefer rdr1's lightning and color palette even more. and this smoothness and clarity movement is pretty much what every single videogame is doing atm, some of it works and some of it dosen't depending on the material, and imo that's the trend which made every videogame look bland and uninspired they trying make everything be stylistically photorealistic and like i said it works sometimes and sometimes it feels off, that can't be said with rdr2 tho meanwhile most old games never really followed any trend or formula and focused more on making a game stand out which made them look and feel different and so was rdr1, and meanwhile you stating the fact that rdr1 took inspiration from them spaghetti western movies, well that's exactly what the game's setting really is, imo it was a well made inspiration, not bootleg copy and paste and rdr2 does the same thing just differently it dosen't have to be unrealistic, just a little more atmospheric and vibey is what i'm saying
Idk, the music in rdr1 is more movie-like, draws a lot of attention by trying to set the mood. The music in rdr2 is more life-like and it blends so much better. Rdr1 ambient paints the picture while rdr2 ambient fills/completes the already existing picture created by the surrounding landscape, it does it in a beautifully soft and unintrusive way. Rdr1 music makes me feel like I'm immersed into an imaginative setting, like a movie or a book, while traversing the country in rdr2 with it's ambient feels like I'm truly there as if it's all real
Also notice in this video how cool the lighting in RDR1 looks. Perhaps less realistic, but that haze somehow it looks more like how you’d imagine that landscape to. The bright white buildings in Mexico look stunning. Fascinating how our mind works like that
Rdr1 communicates the feeling of isolation really well with its lonesome whistles and steadily creaking instrumentals. Rdr2 has a full gang of people as its main cast so it makes sense that they wouldn’t want to make you feel lonely when you’re in a big posse of outlaws, rambling across the country. I think both soundtracks have their merits
@@blakbear6528 yes that's true. Rdr2 has a bigger map ( with no western deserts until the end of the game) , graphisms and there's more details for hunting... But there's not much better things. I like rdr1 story more, the cinematics feel more real, the dialogues and all. John has more depth and is more complexe, the side characters are overall better (charles and others are great though) . Side content are less restricted in rdr1, you can do things like cheating... Gunfights are better (more nervous with details like shooting in legs), even the cover system works better, you can easily still take shots while in cover in rdr2. In rdr1, we really feel the lonelyness john feels, then jack in the end My com is too long, but just yeah, i really agree. People saying rdr2 improves in everything just don't know what they're saying
@@blakbear6528better ending, better music. Outside of that rdr2 wins honestly. The level of realism and attention to detail in the environments, as well as the brilliance of the story and dialogue... Grew up playing rdr1, but the story is pretty generic if you revisit it, and the environment is dead as hell in comparison to rdr2.
Fact ! Rdr1 is still unmatched in its genre, the musics and songs too. I keep being impressed that this game is so great while having only 2 years of development and there was some difficulties during its development... I think it's my fav game ever too, the story is perfect and so sad, the atmosphere is really great, the gameplay dynamic ( i still play from time to time because the feeling in shootouts is still amazing) It's the perfect western game and john marston is the greatest character i've seen
Word brother, i remember being so obsessed with RDR2 for 3 years when it finally came out , then went back to RDR1 just to remember old times and didn’t realize how bad RDR2 really is compared to the first one. RDR1 is just better in every way.
The tall trees ambience feels eerie and cold. Knowing that Dutch was there, it kind of fits because we know that a Dutch turned into an eerie and cold serial killer.
@@TheMrCHELL Because of the controls not being suited for PC. Although I think they were just pulling some BS because they were too lazy and now they need some more money to work on GTA 6.
After I nearly 100% RDR2 I went back and replayed RDR1. I was expecting to be disappointed but honestly I can confidently say that I like RDR1 way more.
Also better ragdoll physics, better ambiance, better music, gunfights are way more intense, horses are faster and you don’t have to micromanage them with a useless hunger/cleaning mechanic, no annoying gun cleaning mechanics, no 20 minute unrealistic animal skinning animations, RDR1 is just an amazing shooter from simpler times baby❤. On top of all it has one of the best zombie DLCs of all time which gives you extra hours of playtime in the endgame.
RDR1’s music was loosely based on Red Dead Revolver which was literally supposed to be a tribute to western films. RDR2 was something completely different.
RDR1 is simply the superior game. I've had several playthroughs separated by years because I missed the world; I had to regularly remind myself I paid $60 for RDR2 to finish it. Beautiful world with little atmosphere and nothing interesting to do other than the main story which needed several more editing passes.
Little atmosphere? That's crazy to me man, the environments were so varied, the lighting and the weather was utterly lifelike. The environments were swelling with so many animals that moved and acted realistically, that I regularly had to stop playing and just watch the screen in absolute awe of how real it seemed.
Agree deeply, rdr1 has music for every single state and location. Rdr2 plays the same exact music over and over again it gets boring and annoying fast. One of the many things rdr1 did better than 2
@@BeatleHarrison Oh please show me where it “shows” I didn’t play RDR1 You need better perception skills. I played it since 2010 and over the years leading up to 2. Shocker I just greatly prefer RDR2 and thought that it outdid it in every way. You lack the comprehension that someone that played RDR1 first can still think RDR2 was far better
You know what they could have done was put Rdr 2’s Great Plains soundtrack on the strawberry side of west Elizabeth and put Rdr 1’s Great Plains soundtrack on the Rdr 1 side of west Elizabeth and keep the other soundtracks at the places that aren’t accessible in Rdr 1 and put Rdr 1’s new Austin soundtrack in new Austin so we have both in the game but R* don’t know how to listen to fans they spoil gta online too much you modders are so lucky yall can just add the rdr1 soundtrack into the game
Meanwhile you can hear New Austin themes on main menu in RDR2. And hear Mexico music near border (first time i heard after Jeremy Gill got dragged by big fish, it was one with trumpet).
I didn't even watch the video and already gave it a thumbs up just for the title. The music in RDR is way better than RDR2. I still listen to the songs 14 years later, that says everything
Rdr1 music is like classic western movie inspired Rdr2 music is more like the music of the nature and something which describes the character personality of the protagonist! I love both of them!❤❤❤
I always found incredible to not see more people saying the same, I truly loved the western background music of the first game and the second fails a bit on that.
I love RDR2 but there are some details that the previous game did better. The music for one. The supporting characters are more memorable. And some of the locations from Mexico were really neat
Having played the shit out of both games and knowing a few things about sound design in games, this is my opinion: In Red Dead 1 the ambient music existed to immerse the player into feeling like they were in their own Spaghetti Western movie. It was designed in a way to let the player feel this no matter where they were on the map. The sound designer basically did their best impression of Ennio Morricone and it was dead on perfect. In Red Dead 2, it feels like the sound designer wanted to make the environment music as vague and as ambient as possible. I feel like they chose to do this so the player could attach their own emotions to the music rather than the composer making the player feel a certain way. I personally prefer the former approach, and the end result is that Red Dead 1's ambient music is infinitely more memorable than Red Dead 2's
Heavily agreed, the pastoral/folky/country route they took for the 2nd game was awesome at times, but didn't help for making it feel gritty when it needed to. Having all the music in A minor gave rdr1 a more immersive and cohesive feel as well. More like a movie than the 2nd game. Which is probably ironic since they most likely wanted everything more cinematic for rdr 2
I’m so glad people are recognizing the brilliance of RDR1. No disrespect to RDR2, but RDR1 atmosphere is so memorable and distinct. The spaghetti western aura is unmatched. RDR2 goes for more contemporary western which is more subtle in tone.
Without a doubt RDR1 has a more western feel to it, hard to explain. It really fits the mood, because RDR1 always felt more somber and alone than RDR2 overall (which makes sense since John doesn't really have a gang anymore, and family was taken), and the music reflects that mood. RDR2's music is nice, but it felt a bit more upbeat by comparison. Also, as absolutely beautiful as RDR2's graphics are, the duller colours of RDR1 actually fits that game's mood a fair bit better and feels a bit more like a western somehow.
Interesting comparison. Thanks for taking the time to make this. I still haven't played RDR1 for fear of crap mechanics and graphics after loving RDR2, but it doesn't look as bad as I thought.
Wish they took an extra year to cook with rdr2. It's an absolutely fantastic game, but there are a few loose ends that have obviously been rushed, and it's a massive shame
I think the game has a lot of stuff, yes the New Austin part of the map is lackluster, so is Guarma, but honestly the main game itself is pretty great in my opinion
Agree with both replies. I love this game, it's phenomenal. There are just a few issues that seem to stem from crunch time and stress, which led to easy cheap solutions and half-finished features. It's far from a huge problem though, as I said.
For me, RDR2 tells a much deeper story, focusing on the psychological development and character changes of the protagonists and their perception of the world they live in. I think the music subtly reflects this, especially the growing conflict within Arthur. The music in RDR1, on the other hand, is badass and classic Wild West, which fits perfectly with John Marston and the game. He remains that distant, unapproachable character throughout the game, never truly fitting into the life of a simple farmer and family man.
Rdr1 feels like a spaghetti western theme whereas 2 seems to try to take a more serious, less parody/ satire direction and more grounded for lack of a better term
The missions soundtrack in RDR2, for example when you are escaping the bank robbery or in that mission where you steal some horses, for me it's as good if not better than in RDR1. But the "exploration" soundtrack in RDR1 is no doubt more memorable than in RDR2.
I player rdr1 2 years ago for the first time and it was amazing and the ambient music definitely helped. I really loved the lonely feel of New Austin and the trumpets of Nuevo Paraiso. Later when i came back to rdr2 i was so dissapointed when the rdr1 ambiet music didnt play in west elizabeth or new austin but you can still hear some of the old ambience if you save in new austin or go close to the san luis river. Also if you glitch into Mexico in rdr2 you can hear the old ambience wich gave me goosebumps.
afaik there are unused building textures for Mexico in RDR2's files. I think at the very least RDO would've gotten a Mexico update, but alas, it died too soon since apparently it takes every game developer in the universe to make GTA6
Playing RDR2 when it was still fairly new during lockdown days,watching the news updates in The morning and playing afternoon till nighttime while listening to soundscape music on my vinyl with the gameplay audio on mute was peak gaming for me,the vibes are still unmatched till this day
When I first played this game in 2009 I had its on rental, it was so immersive and groundbreaking that I rented it about 3 times until I bought a copy for myself. There's a certain ambience to RD1 that RD2 failed to recreate albeit a more polished game. Certain areas an eerily creepy like tall trees and even to this day I find myself noticing new things I missed almost 15 years ago.
Even though RDR2 is my favorite game of all time there's something so special about the first one. RDR1 was so ahead of it's time. I don't think the feeling you get while playing it can be replicated... such a great time when it came out
YES i have said this since 2018. Im sure my nostalgia of 2010 clouds my judgement a bit but rdr 2 ambient was always like random noises, rdr 1 ambient felt like tragic and lonesome sounds from the past
Not only is the music in RDR1 better then 2 but the dialogue in 1 is also better. RDR2 has great dialogue but 1 is more funny and captures the wild west like the classic sayings you'd get in a spaghetti western.
I was always a huge fan of the ambient soundtrack of RDR1 and is a big nostalgia factor for me. Each little region has its own soundtrack, from Great Plains to Mexico each area has its own unique soundtrack that sets the mood perfectly it’s actual art. RDR 2’s ambient soundtrack isn’t bad but it’s soulless in the sense that every area is exactly the same with barely noticeable differences it gets old very quickly they mainly focused on main mission soundtrack which is pretty good. On my channel I even uploaded a playlist “Red Dead Nostalgia” adding RDR1 music to me roaming in rdr2 to just capture that nostalgia with the new visuals.
RDR1 literally makes you feel like you're inside one of those Clint Eastwood westerns
It's incredible
Because its based more on a spaghetti western while rdr2 was more realistic
Just wait until you play Red Dead Revolver. That was back when R* had more creativity and semblance of fun than just "realism"
@@JG9RUclipssome people find realistic games more fun than arcade
and rdr2 is extra boring
@@ezioassassain I'd argue they find realism novel on paper, but find it gets boring fast in practice. And only when arcade elements/creative liberties are injected in, they begin to have more fun
Rdr1 ambient music: wild west
Rdr2 ambient music: wild life
This is the perfect comment that explains the difference between RDR1 music and RDR2
Great bro!
Yeah, just came to comments to say I think the reason the music in rdr2 is much more airy is that it gives the wildlife room to speak.
RDR2's is more like generic county music
@@lepersonnage371wtf, do you even know what country music is?
@@justgoldman1826 yes, rdr2 has a lot of that, especially song sequences like Cruel Cruel World. Unshaken is great though no complaints about that, fitting song
Rdr1 feels more like a cool old western movie compared to rdr2 which is something I really miss
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You need to learn more about westerns cause RDr2 depicts western life far more accurate
RDR1 depicts spaghetti westerns more, which is its own brand. Not the only type of western stories
Actually RDR 2's ambient is the real, and most accurate one.
RDR 1 is spaghetti western
@@Indigo_1001 yea that’s what I’m talking about like a old western movie
@@blj8915 But you said "real western" spaghetti/old western movies are NOT real western.
The Tall trees ambient music is the creepiest
The creepiest of all ambient musics is the Roanoke and Bayou Nwa ambient musics
In both games Tall Trees ambient music Is scary af
Ninja bears and because of color.
They really look scary when you take a close look on heir faces.
@@liammanuell7516 Especially at night with the Skinners there, a scary theme starts playing.
and annesburg. if we are talking about rdr2
RDR1 in general has an atmosphere that's very different from 2. The whole game, you feel as if you're alone in the world. Almost like the whole game could take place in John's purgatory. There's an uncanny valley nature to the game, which is helped by the music. Helped by how many people you meet in Stranger missions are basically insane.
@@MuchWhittering as if john never survived the shot he took at fort mercer, and then is in his purgatory as you said
"John's purgatory" 😂 you made an effort today, didn't you?
Yeah the amount of crazy stranger missions and the eerily divine stuff like the strange man being Cain from the Bible makes it feel kinda like Stephen King’s book “The Gunslinger”
@@connorsoileau4763yesss, Dark Tower mentioned, I loved Gunslinger's atmosphere as well
Exactly. You've voiced something I had on my mind for years now but couldn't describe. The eeriness, loneliness, and the melancholy of that game are something I really miss in rdr2 and gaming in general.
I really like the setting and the story of rdr2, but sometimes I wonder what if they went westward. What if the gang wasn't around. What if it was still a lonely and a surreal journey through a hostile land with little civilization and sparse settlements. Wish they'd make the 3rd game like that
The thing with the RDR1 soundtrack is that every region has its score around A minor scale, and the RDR composers separated by layers those tracks, and somehow they share the same bpm. The thing is that, depending on the location or the situation of the character, slight different versions of the same score (with more or less layers) will sound, and you can be in a very chilly situation that suddenly the situation and the music changes but some layers from seconds ago will remain and it merges perfectly to the whole new situation. It’s such an awesome and brilliant concept.
thing is they don't talka bout it being the same , it's just better on rdr 1 , same one , different version , new one , doesn't matter it still way better ambient music in rdr 1
Adaptive music. Breath of The Wild's is arguably the best. There's a great video on it somewhere.
@@AnadonAyleid Doom's adaptive music is probably better, there's a whole explanation of how it works by its composer, look it up, you'll like it
@@DaxanDaxter cool thansk
A minorrrrrrrrrrrr 🤠
2 is missing the iconic spaghetti westerns whistle man.
Damn... low blow for RDR2.
It’s not a spaghetti western that’s why.
2 isn’t based on spaghetti westerns like 1 is..
Yeah but you can brush your horse. Checkmate atheist
@@jgunner94Nobody said it was dumbazzz
When I was a kid, and I beat the game. I was always on edge by the music, thinking somebody was gonna come out and rob Beecher's Hope. Weird to say, but that's a feeling I got often.
Yes me too, the game was creepy in a very different way than rdr2
the blackwater ambience was terrifying
Edging???
@@Yeahimman32 Yes, I was on edge while edging Man.
Is there a lore reason?
Rdr1 Macfarlane’s ranch music sounds so good.
México ❤
GTA 4 2008 and rdr1 2011 I believe will always be rockstars best work they hit the atmosphere right on the head we were so privileged to experience these games together
1000% agreed
Same goes for LA noir in my opinion. That era is unmatched
Those are the two I grew up with, they will always be the best to me. Their tone is unmatched
I always thought RD1 had better cowboy vibes than RD2. Also the music of RD1 reminds me of 2011 Xbox era🥲
I think that's mostly because of the map, rdr1 being the most western side of rdr2's map
Me too ❤
I’d agree w the setting and story too; rdr2 had us running from the snowy Rockies to the Appalachians and the swamps of Louisiana, 2/3 of rdr1 was Texas and Mexico
@@chapchap9180Not the Appalachians, lol. The Ozarks-adjacent highland forests of Missouri and I forget the other state.
I played Red Dead at 10 years old and it changed me. I then played Red Dead 2 at 18 and it changed me again. These games taught me more about human flaws, psychological greed of man, loyalty, honour.. than any school. It taught me good people do bad things, and bad people can pretend to be your friend. John and Arthurs story revolve around Dutch and his decline. The mental illness of their mentor and eventual realization of themselves as their own man, with their own code. It's depressingly beautiful. Just like human nature
Nothing, absolutely nothing beats "far away" from Jose Gonzales moment when you enter Mexico in Rd1. You are not expecting it and it is just one of the best moments in video games ever. Rdr2 Soundtrack is beautiful but not the same level as Rdr1.
Love that part and when Dutch Jumps off the cliff riding back that music is awesome
Unshaken from when you return from Guarma is pretty close if not better.
every summer i always replay Red Dead Redemption 1. right now i'm replaying again which i'm at Mexico doing side missions before i do the main missions.
When you arrive to Mexico. One of the best parts of the game.
Bro I do the same. It’s my summer holiday ritual.
Same but every Halloween I replay Undead Nightmare
@@Ronin777z i thought about do that on Halloween.
@@Mac-wv8uk yeah. playing it feels summer vibes to it.
Miss all the Mexico ambience
Gives me a MSG vibe to it
it always makes me hungry for Mexican food lmaooo
Of course I love rdr2 and still play it…but the ATMOSPHERE, the vibe, of RDR1 is so deep, so eerie, so compelling that it makes it feel bigger than it really is. Still my favorite on ambience alone
I’ve always said atmosphere is the most important part of a game
@@precisism1804of a sprawling, low intensity open world game, I would say 100%. A lot of modern open world games (Ubisoft)just take a single player action games mechanics and stick it into an open world, giving the illusion that open world is always better. But for me open world's are meant to be lived in, explored and felt. Music, art design,, a likeable main character, solid writing, and interesting characters and locations to find are what make an open world for me.
Something to note is how the whole RDR1 soundtrack is made in A minor, which helps so much to create familiarity between the tracks. Words cannot describe how the music of that game made me feel. RDR2 music felt really uninspired instead (I'd even dare to say mediocre although that seems a bit harsh), despite venturing into other keys
It's ok, you're allowed to criticize RDR2. I'd go as far as to say RDR2 was one of the most disappointing games of all time. As someone who played through RDR1 several times and got 100%, it's easy to say I'm nostalgia biased but also people have recency bias. I appreciate the insane effort and attention to detail Rockstar made with RDR2 but in no way is it a better game. It's not even close.
@@stephenp2174 I disagree with you regarding your statement that RDR2 is inferior, I'd instead advocate that RDR2 plays to different strengths than RDR does. Although RDR does have a better story and "western" esque atmosphere, I believe that RDR2 makes up for those elements in terms of its open world design.
@@stephenp2174I agree, when rdr2 came out it was huge and everybody just loved it. Having played the first game before it left something to be desired. The combat and ragdoll physics were disappointing compared to rdr1. It took some years but people are now seeing how damn classic the first game is
@@julienvalley28 lol I'm sick of that argument too. "It's not worse, just different." There's nothing RDR2 did open world wise, that RDR1 didn't already do better. I.e bounty hunting, cheating at poker, hunting... holding buttons to get different dialogue during "random encounters" isn't better.
@@stephenp2174 My god FINALLY someone that says the truth, THANK YOU!!
In my case nostalgia doesn't work because I played RDR1 for the first time in 2017, one year before RDR2 came out. And I prefer RDR1 by far!
Both Amazing and fuck whoever decided to give GOTY to fucking God Of War
God of fucking War😂
In these awards is not just one people that decides.
A selected group votes and then decides.
RDR 2 was robbed
I've tried playing god of war THREE times btw, that game is TRASH. There must have been a bribe behind that decision... psychotic
Rdr1 depicts cowboys in the west and rdr2 depicts outlaws all around america
Red Dead 2 is supposed to be the continuation to what occurred in Blackwater but you’re still living the life you knew with a family. In Red Dead 1, you’re putting everything you once knew behind, but mainly, you’re completely alone while doing it. Red dead 1 has always felt lonely, most games released at that time did, so I think the soundtrack is appropriate.
When you're at beetcher's with your family, it's really great. But i wish we had more missions (activities too, like throwing horseshoes with jack for exemple...) to really feel like we are home, no more alone
But we really have this loneliness feeling throughout the game, even if we meet people and all, then chill with our family, and then as jack feeling lonely more than in any other game imo
I have this very intense nostalgia when I play rdr1 now. It’s so special to me. I miss those days getting up early in the morning and turning on my Xbox 360. You just had to be there. Wish we could go back to those times. They were something
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100 PERCENT!!! I was wondering why more people are not talking about it.
there's just something about rdr1's ambiance that draws me in more than the second one does, despite the graphical impairment and janky animations it just feels more vibey and artistic than the late one, most likely due the color palette and skybox, the sad thing that i've been noticing in the graphical direction videogames are taking is that they're progressively enhancing in graphical fidelity on the other hand losing that artistic charm, its literally happening in every single videogame ever and it just fills me with dissapointment
games are getting more blander and uninspired trying to reach that graphical magnum opus, making everything look grounded and highly detailed while missing that incredible immersive aesthetic and lightning that made them standout
they be focusing more on photorealism than anything they just won't understand that artstyle and lightning is what makes a game timeless rather than any clarity or 4k textures they can pull off
Yes, I agree. Not only that, but current games are also poorly optimized and consume a lot of power, forcing you to always have better hardware on your PC in order to play.
rdr1 was also trying to be realistic, its just that they focused on different aesthetics and styles, rdr2 is a beautifully stylized game, people think a game with style means it has to have unrealistic or heavily stylized graphics but that's not true, rdr2 still has a style, and even tho its hard to describe, you do feel it, i think it has something to do with how smooth the image looks, the textures from up close look like they're bad quality but staring at a view in the game just looks beautiful, rdr 2 focused on the wilderness and the beauty of nature, and no game feels more alive in that sense, while rdr1 focused on its inspirations from teh old cowboy movies, they both have different styles and they pulled them off perfectly, rdr2 is not worse, it's just difference
@@DaxanDaxter
I didn't say that it should be "unrealistic"
and I never said rdr2 looks bad overall,
see rdr1's aesthetic perfectly nailed that sweet spot that blends both realism and style and that's what made it look brilliant, it looked both grounded and stylish, pretty much rdr1's spaghetti western aesthetic draws me in even more than rdr2's generic smooth wilderness aesthetic that's been common with every single videogame lately, with that I prefer rdr1's lightning and color palette even more.
and this smoothness and clarity movement is pretty much what every single videogame is doing atm, some of it works and some of it dosen't depending on the material, and imo that's the trend which made every videogame look bland and uninspired they trying make everything be stylistically photorealistic and like i said it works sometimes and sometimes it feels off, that can't be said with rdr2 tho
meanwhile most old games never really followed any trend or formula and focused more on making a game stand out which made them look and feel different and so was rdr1,
and meanwhile you stating the fact that rdr1 took inspiration from them spaghetti western movies, well that's exactly what the game's setting really is, imo it was a well made inspiration, not bootleg copy and paste and rdr2 does the same thing just differently
it dosen't have to be unrealistic, just a little more atmospheric and vibey is what i'm saying
Idk, the music in rdr1 is more movie-like, draws a lot of attention by trying to set the mood. The music in rdr2 is more life-like and it blends so much better. Rdr1 ambient paints the picture while rdr2 ambient fills/completes the already existing picture created by the surrounding landscape, it does it in a beautifully soft and unintrusive way. Rdr1 music makes me feel like I'm immersed into an imaginative setting, like a movie or a book, while traversing the country in rdr2 with it's ambient feels like I'm truly there as if it's all real
Also notice in this video how cool the lighting in RDR1 looks. Perhaps less realistic, but that haze somehow it looks more like how you’d imagine that landscape to. The bright white buildings in Mexico look stunning. Fascinating how our mind works like that
Rdr1 communicates the feeling of isolation really well with its lonesome whistles and steadily creaking instrumentals. Rdr2 has a full gang of people as its main cast so it makes sense that they wouldn’t want to make you feel lonely when you’re in a big posse of outlaws, rambling across the country. I think both soundtracks have their merits
Some days I just turned on red dead only to listen to the ambience.
The musics and songs really are some of the things that rdr1 has better than rdr2, this game really is a master piece
RDR 1 is the better game overall if you think about it
@@blakbear6528 yes that's true. Rdr2 has a bigger map ( with no western deserts until the end of the game) , graphisms and there's more details for hunting... But there's not much better things. I like rdr1 story more, the cinematics feel more real, the dialogues and all. John has more depth and is more complexe, the side characters are overall better (charles and others are great though) . Side content are less restricted in rdr1, you can do things like cheating... Gunfights are better (more nervous with details like shooting in legs), even the cover system works better, you can easily still take shots while in cover in rdr2. In rdr1, we really feel the lonelyness john feels, then jack in the end
My com is too long, but just yeah, i really agree. People saying rdr2 improves in everything just don't know what they're saying
@@blakbear6528better ending, better music. Outside of that rdr2 wins honestly. The level of realism and attention to detail in the environments, as well as the brilliance of the story and dialogue... Grew up playing rdr1, but the story is pretty generic if you revisit it, and the environment is dead as hell in comparison to rdr2.
RDR 1 is still my favourite game of all time. It has everything really.
Fact !
Rdr1 is still unmatched in its genre, the musics and songs too. I keep being impressed that this game is so great while having only 2 years of development and there was some difficulties during its development...
I think it's my fav game ever too, the story is perfect and so sad, the atmosphere is really great, the gameplay dynamic ( i still play from time to time because the feeling in shootouts is still amazing)
It's the perfect western game and john marston is the greatest character i've seen
Word brother, i remember being so obsessed with RDR2 for 3 years when it finally came out , then went back to RDR1 just to remember old times and didn’t realize how bad RDR2 really is compared to the first one. RDR1 is just better in every way.
I'm still playing it. It gives me more wild west vibes than rdr2.
The tall trees ambience feels eerie and cold. Knowing that Dutch was there, it kind of fits because we know that a
Dutch turned into an eerie and cold serial killer.
LOL he was already killing people what are you talking about.
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"turned"
Heidi McCourt, Angelo Bronte, Guarma granny, and Leviticus Cornwall: ....
RDR2 best OSTs are in missions. Unshaken, That's The Way It Is, American Venom, Blood Feuds, and many more...
I AGREE WITH U , RDR 1 SOUNDTRACK WAS SO MUCH BETTER !!!! MY FAVORITE IS MACFARLANE RANCH
Seth Mac Farlane Ranch.
México ❤
PERSONALLY I ADORE THE ESCALERA THEME!!!!
Atmosphere was better in this game, just feels more like a cowboy game, or western. Hope it comes out on PC man.
I don't kow what they still waiting for to release on PC.
Easy money for them.
You can play it on yuzu on 60 fps with high graphics if your pc is solid enough nothing to crazy
@@TheMrCHELL Yea big time, i'd be one of the suckers for pay 50 just to play it on PC
@@TheMrCHELL Because of the controls not being suited for PC. Although I think they were just pulling some BS because they were too lazy and now they need some more money to work on GTA 6.
After I nearly 100% RDR2 I went back and replayed RDR1. I was expecting to be disappointed but honestly I can confidently say that I like RDR1 way more.
OG comin' through, OG comin' through!
Same here. I also think it’s a better-looking game than RDR2 despite the 7 year age difference.
@@SharksSJ408because they updated visuals
😂😂😂😂
Also better ragdoll physics, better ambiance, better music, gunfights are way more intense, horses are faster and you don’t have to micromanage them with a useless hunger/cleaning mechanic, no annoying gun cleaning mechanics, no 20 minute unrealistic animal skinning animations, RDR1 is just an amazing shooter from simpler times baby❤. On top of all it has one of the best zombie DLCs of all time which gives you extra hours of playtime in the endgame.
RDR1’s music was loosely based on Red Dead Revolver which was literally supposed to be a tribute to western films.
RDR2 was something completely different.
Music in Red dead Revolver is literally Spaguetti western soundtracks. Thet created an incredible ambient.
RDR1 is simply the superior game. I've had several playthroughs separated by years because I missed the world; I had to regularly remind myself I paid $60 for RDR2 to finish it. Beautiful world with little atmosphere and nothing interesting to do other than the main story which needed several more editing passes.
Little atmosphere? That's crazy to me man, the environments were so varied, the lighting and the weather was utterly lifelike. The environments were swelling with so many animals that moved and acted realistically, that I regularly had to stop playing and just watch the screen in absolute awe of how real it seemed.
It’s isn’t an opinion, this is a fact.
I’ve literally thought the same exact thing since I first played RDR 2 in 2018
Im still amazed by RDR1's graphics.
rdr1's ambience is soo nostalgic bro especially in mexico
It's personal preference. As a big fan of spaghetti westerns, I prefer the RDR1 soundtrack. RDR2 is more ambient and traditional.
Agree deeply, rdr1 has music for every single state and location. Rdr2 plays the same exact music over and over again it gets boring and annoying fast. One of the many things rdr1 did better than 2
It does not. RDR2 has FAR more variations of ambient songs. RDR2 has far less and it get repetitive really fast
@@Indigo_1001 No offense dude but stop riding rdr2 so much. It’s literally an opinion lmao
@@Indigo_1001 also you’ve never played rdr1 and it shows
@@BeatleHarrison
Oh please show me where it “shows” I didn’t play RDR1
You need better perception skills. I played it since 2010 and over the years leading up to 2. Shocker I just greatly prefer RDR2 and thought that it outdid it in every way.
You lack the comprehension that someone that played RDR1 first can still think RDR2 was far better
@@Indigo_1001 again it’s an opinion lmao calm down, mf getting overworked for no reason
You know what they could have done was put Rdr 2’s Great Plains soundtrack on the strawberry side of west Elizabeth and put Rdr 1’s Great Plains soundtrack on the Rdr 1 side of west Elizabeth and keep the other soundtracks at the places that aren’t accessible in Rdr 1 and put Rdr 1’s new Austin soundtrack in new Austin so we have both in the game but R* don’t know how to listen to fans they spoil gta online too much you modders are so lucky yall can just add the rdr1 soundtrack into the game
You could also use commas
@@JohnDaubSuperfan369 I went out of breath reading all that
Meanwhile you can hear New Austin themes on main menu in RDR2.
And hear Mexico music near border (first time i heard after Jeremy Gill got dragged by big fish, it was one with trumpet).
I was always wondering if this was intentional or did they just forget to remove the files somehow
The whistle😢
I wish i couldve snagged a copy of RDR1 soundtrack on vinyl when it was available. Definitely better than RDR2's.
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RDR1 is more spaghetti western, and RDR2 is more focused on the american frontier and the grander scale of the american west.
I didn't even watch the video and already gave it a thumbs up just for the title. The music in RDR is way better than RDR2. I still listen to the songs 14 years later, that says everything
Rdr2 ambient music blends very well with the whole forest wilderness theme
At first it’s good but it gets boring after a while hearing the same notes over and over
RDR2 doesn't feel like a western like RDR did.
That's because it's in the east
@@ethanfullerton1620And they didn't did much with the West, they had the whole base for the Best and it was left like an unfinished cake.
Then you really don’t know much about the “wild west” since RDr2 showed a more historical accurate depiction of it
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Because the game without Nee Austin was already several times larger then RDR1
RDR1’s is better, not even a question.
Depends on what
Rdr1 music is like classic western movie inspired
Rdr2 music is more like the music of the nature and something which describes the character personality of the protagonist!
I love both of them!❤❤❤
red dead 1 composers: Bill Elm and Woody Jackson
red dead 2 composer: just Woody jackson
that could explain some things
Makes sense why it's so similar.
We need a mod that includes rdr1's ambience
I always found incredible to not see more people saying the same, I truly loved the western background music of the first game and the second fails a bit on that.
RDR1: Western Music
RDR2: Country Music
Man the level of detail of the horse's body in RDR1 is something no game has yet matched even today! Except of course RDR2
Man do I miss the ambient music of rdr1. The music and atmosphere around Mexico was especially my favorite
Tall Trees in RDR1 always gave me chills. It just didn't feel right there. Looking back that place is definitely Wendigo territory.
I love RDR2 but there are some details that the previous game did better. The music for one. The supporting characters are more memorable. And some of the locations from Mexico were really neat
They both have amazing ambiences, It's hard for me to choose between them.
Rdr2 doesn’t even feel like red dead without this music, sad but true
It's just different man, they tried something different.
Having played the shit out of both games and knowing a few things about sound design in games, this is my opinion:
In Red Dead 1 the ambient music existed to immerse the player into feeling like they were in their own Spaghetti Western movie. It was designed in a way to let the player feel this no matter where they were on the map. The sound designer basically did their best impression of Ennio Morricone and it was dead on perfect.
In Red Dead 2, it feels like the sound designer wanted to make the environment music as vague and as ambient as possible. I feel like they chose to do this so the player could attach their own emotions to the music rather than the composer making the player feel a certain way.
I personally prefer the former approach, and the end result is that Red Dead 1's ambient music is infinitely more memorable than Red Dead 2's
Heavily agreed, the pastoral/folky/country route they took for the 2nd game was awesome at times, but didn't help for making it feel gritty when it needed to. Having all the music in A minor gave rdr1 a more immersive and cohesive feel as well. More like a movie than the 2nd game. Which is probably ironic since they most likely wanted everything more cinematic for rdr 2
I feel like RDR2 had a more theraputic vibe to the music, but RDR1 is more western. I love both equally
I’m so glad people are recognizing the brilliance of RDR1. No disrespect to RDR2, but RDR1 atmosphere is so memorable and distinct. The spaghetti western aura is unmatched.
RDR2 goes for more contemporary western which is more subtle in tone.
Without a doubt RDR1 has a more western feel to it, hard to explain. It really fits the mood, because RDR1 always felt more somber and alone than RDR2 overall (which makes sense since John doesn't really have a gang anymore, and family was taken), and the music reflects that mood. RDR2's music is nice, but it felt a bit more upbeat by comparison.
Also, as absolutely beautiful as RDR2's graphics are, the duller colours of RDR1 actually fits that game's mood a fair bit better and feels a bit more like a western somehow.
Interesting comparison. Thanks for taking the time to make this. I still haven't played RDR1 for fear of crap mechanics and graphics after loving RDR2, but it doesn't look as bad as I thought.
Wish they took an extra year to cook with rdr2. It's an absolutely fantastic game, but there are a few loose ends that have obviously been rushed, and it's a massive shame
bro saying rdr2 needed more time in the oven is honestly a crime
I think the game has a lot of stuff, yes the New Austin part of the map is lackluster, so is Guarma, but honestly the main game itself is pretty great in my opinion
Agree with both replies. I love this game, it's phenomenal. There are just a few issues that seem to stem from crunch time and stress, which led to easy cheap solutions and half-finished features. It's far from a huge problem though, as I said.
@@Und3rcov3r yes there are some parts that could suffer from that... I don't think the music is part of that thi
@@carloambrosio6726 yeah the music is a minor detail, but gets a little boring when you're in that area while playing red dead online
11:12 A little reference to the three peasants John kills in Mexico
For me, RDR2 tells a much deeper story, focusing on the psychological development and character changes of the protagonists and their perception of the world they live in. I think the music subtly reflects this, especially the growing conflict within Arthur. The music in RDR1, on the other hand, is badass and classic Wild West, which fits perfectly with John Marston and the game. He remains that distant, unapproachable character throughout the game, never truly fitting into the life of a simple farmer and family man.
I wish they'd make a remaster of this.
Rdr1 feels like a spaghetti western theme whereas 2 seems to try to take a more serious, less parody/ satire direction and more grounded for lack of a better term
Rdr1 is a spaguetti western, Rdr2 is an existential drama
I 100% agree with you! I love both soundtracks but Rdr 1 hits different. it feels more like the wild west.
they should of brought back all the old red dead 1 ambient music to rdr 2 when you explore New Austin and West Elizabeth
The missions soundtrack in RDR2, for example when you are escaping the bank robbery or in that mission where you steal some horses, for me it's as good if not better than in RDR1.
But the "exploration" soundtrack in RDR1 is no doubt more memorable than in RDR2.
10:52 this is what rdr2 would be like with rdr1 music, badass
The music of RDR1 was soo much better it’s not even a comparison. RDR2’s music is just depressing
Make a vid about Undead Nightmare's ambient music! The creepifying of all the tracks is honestly so cool to listen too
RDR2 is more mature. Nice old timey ambience that fits that era. RDR1 is just all hell yeah ol spaghetti western drama.
I player rdr1 2 years ago for the first time and it was amazing and the ambient music definitely helped. I really loved the lonely feel of New Austin and the trumpets of Nuevo Paraiso. Later when i came back to rdr2 i was so dissapointed when the rdr1 ambiet music didnt play in west elizabeth or new austin but you can still hear some of the old ambience if you save in new austin or go close to the san luis river. Also if you glitch into Mexico in rdr2 you can hear the old ambience wich gave me goosebumps.
Thank you for time stamping these. The extra effort is appreciated
RDR1 was just on a whole other level
Been saying this since rdr2 came out. Still great but rdr1 is perfect
Rdr 2 will never hit like OG rdr
7:20 I thought it was CJ talking lol
Idk what anyone says, RDR1 was better than RDR2 in just about every way
It also has unlimited random events unlike RDR2 where they run out after a while a then it just becomes a very static open world
afaik there are unused building textures for Mexico in RDR2's files. I think at the very least RDO would've gotten a Mexico update, but alas, it died too soon since apparently it takes every game developer in the universe to make GTA6
After all these years, Red Dead Redemption is still amazing!
I always preferred the RDR1 ambient music.
Me i like Mexico soundtracks they are awesome
Playing RDR2 when it was still fairly new during lockdown days,watching the news updates in The morning and playing afternoon till nighttime while listening to soundscape music on my vinyl with the gameplay audio on mute was peak gaming for me,the vibes are still unmatched till this day
When I first played this game in 2009 I had its on rental, it was so immersive and groundbreaking that I rented it about 3 times until I bought a copy for myself. There's a certain ambience to RD1 that RD2 failed to recreate albeit a more polished game. Certain areas an eerily creepy like tall trees and even to this day I find myself noticing new things I missed almost 15 years ago.
Even though RDR2 is my favorite game of all time there's something so special about the first one. RDR1 was so ahead of it's time. I don't think the feeling you get while playing it can be replicated... such a great time when it came out
YES i have said this since 2018. Im sure my nostalgia of 2010 clouds my judgement a bit but rdr 2 ambient was always like random noises, rdr 1 ambient felt like tragic and lonesome sounds from the past
luv bof red deads.
luv red dead 1’s sound track more.
luv Arthur & John.
‘ate Del Lobos.
‘ate Pinkertons.
Simple as bruv.
Not only is the music in RDR1 better then 2 but the dialogue in 1 is also better. RDR2 has great dialogue but 1 is more funny and captures the wild west like the classic sayings you'd get in a spaghetti western.
I was always a huge fan of the ambient soundtrack of RDR1 and is a big nostalgia factor for me.
Each little region has its own soundtrack, from Great Plains to Mexico each area has its own unique soundtrack that sets the mood perfectly it’s actual art.
RDR 2’s ambient soundtrack isn’t bad but it’s soulless in the sense that every area is exactly the same with barely noticeable differences it gets old very quickly they mainly focused on main mission soundtrack which is pretty good.
On my channel I even uploaded a playlist “Red Dead Nostalgia” adding RDR1 music to me roaming in rdr2 to just capture that nostalgia with the new visuals.
The first horse on vídeo only show’s when you have low honor in RDR1. This is micah’s horse. Insane detailssss
I've always said this and people thumb me down or downvote me for saying it. Glad others feel the sane way.
I’ve always thought the same. Thanks for the video!