The 05-06 GTO is a great car! Most people are sleeping on these cars, you can get one way cheaper then 17 grand. And they can do a 1/4 bone stock somewhere between 12.6 to 12.9 seconds with a good rear tire depending on how bad your sea level is. The GTO gets a bad rap for how slow the LS1 04 GTO is. 🤷🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️ FACTS
After my hellcat was stolen, I had a tight budget for another v8 muscle/sports car I started looking into chevy/Cadillac. I was stuck between the 09-13 cts-v and 10-13 Camaro SS. After a few weeks of looking around, I found a red 2013 camaro 2SS 1LE. Took it for a test drive and fell in love with the car. I paid 26k in total for the car, a little bit higher than average but that's Illinois for you
@@LibertyDrives it is what it is at this point. The silver lining of that whole ordeal was that I was able to buy a house and the camaro lol. Gotta appreciate the blessings that come your way, even in dark times
NO doubt, C6 Corvette ! Don't know why so many people knock the interior of these, not bad at all on 2-4 lt models. 430 hp in a 3,000 lb. car makes it Very fast for a bone stock car ! 20-26 K for a Nice , Clean one w/mid 12 sec. 1/4 an 190 mph top end, what is NOT to like ? Only problem...? Very easy to loose tread on back tires ! :-) !
You said it perfectly! They're even decently "practical" with the big rear storage and the targa tops are awesome! And with a couple basic mods they go from stock looking to aggressive real quick
Yeah I’m sorry buddy I’m one of them I got rid of mine but not really because of the interior I can’t find nobody to work on them to make the performance that I want in the PA area so I sold my 06 C6 Corvette and I got a ZL one Camaro and I really don’t regret it I love it it’s this brand new one six Gen It’s all what you like
@@Luminous.Dynamics to my knowledge, there's no difference. They revamped the interior on the 08', and they were far more comfortable than the 06-07 cars. Door panels got leather, the sound system got better, the dash was redesigned to be more modern, and the modern infotainment system was added that was touch screen. Performance wise they're the exact same though. Challengers just have a manual option while the Charger is auto only
The CTS-V is such a sick car, plus I've seen quite a few for right around $10,000. I have a 3.6l CTS. It smoked my buddies v6 mustang and for a v6, drifts like a dream
Prices are about spot on, I'm in WA and I got my SRT8 Challenger (6speed manual) for 18k with a few mods already installed.....no regrets and since Hellcats are a thing now, people actually underestimate the hell out of these now and think they're slow😂
I’m glad the 03-04 cobra was in but their advertised hp vs how they actually performed were different they make over 400 crank stock and they’re capable of 900 on stock block
@@declangregory4048 they might be the greatest mustang ever created it’s so raw my buddy has a ported eaton mystichrome terminator and from the first time I rode in it I loved it I’m going to get one this year
@@BaggdaddySRT hell yeah bro, I got the 3.6 but it’s gettin the ripp kit real soon, gonna be pushin 500 till I get a hemi, do you have pics of the srt tho? I’d love to see it man
always had a soft spot for the GTO aka the Goat. Looking passed the interior, I weirdly love the looks of those things. It looks like so many different cars smashed together. C5 Z06 is what i tell people is the "realistic dream car" lol
Glad to see the GTO on the list. My dad had an 05, FBO/ big cam and long tube headers. Made roughly 580 wheel on a bad day. It was fun growing up and learning how to drive in it.
@@LibertyDrives he got it when I was 4 and sold it when I was 16 so yeah I grew up with it. If I remember correctly he had upgraded clutch and flywheel, comp cams, custom tune, full exhaust. The only other thing to do was slap a turbo or supercharger on it but he got “too old” to keep driving it(stick of course) 🤦🏻♂️
Agreed! Cylinder deactivation is but an evil spurred on by more stringent emissions regulations and have shown itself to be a source of reliability concerns.
I love my Second gen coupe. Best car I’ve ever owned. The 556 stock hp was fun but I got use to it quick. It’s not sitting at 950 wheel hp and 1150 on nitrous.
Honorable mention Challenger RT. With the track pack option and manual they have a posi rear and 3.92 gears. This makes them actually quick with 410 foot pounds of torque that rivals most on this list. 376hp tho so a bit shy of 400.
Dude, I bought a 2014 challenger srt8 about 5 months ago for $20k, a few bolt ons and a tune later im sitting on a lil over 500 hp best decision I ever made
@@fierro7771 mine had 94k miles on the odometer but the previous owner kept up with all the maintenance and took care of any recalls before selling it to me for a bargain, I really lucked out
I love the styling and design of the CTS-V. Add on the fact it’s a luxury car with features not seen on other cars at that time, and it’s got a freaking LS engine, RWD, and only comes in manual… this thing is sexy af
Coming from the "jdm" scene due it be so expensive , i ended up buying a c5 and fell in love. Its amazing for the money plus a couple of thousands dollars in go fast mods make a big difference in the ls family compared to my is300 and sc400.
@@LibertyDrives Absoutely, its amazing the comments i get from men and women on how beautiful the car is plus every vette owner wants to park next to ya. i really happy with vette community.
@JDM Jerm if you wanted cheap power you should have went Honda. An untuned NA B20 swap in an eg hatch will walk any muscle car with 400hp. AWD is very affordable to implement as well if you're not accustomed to the FWD dig. But everyone knows that there's nothing more dangerous on the streets as "that guy with a laptop and a CRX"
The 03-04 cobra actually has more 400hp. It was advertised for insurance purposes during that time. But if you bought one from the factory and took it to the dyno. The hp would be about 419 torque same numbers. Depending on elevation..
At the dyno, bone stock Terminators posted between 368ish to some healthy ones posting high 370s to low 380s at the tires; which with drivetrain loss factored in, does equate to 419ish flywheel horsepower. No stock Terminator ever posted 419 wheel horsepower without mods as 419 whp is about 470 - 480 flywheel horsepower. What's good about the Terminators however, is that with pulley, intake, throttle body, exhaust and a tune, they are easily in the 460 wheel horsepower range. Port the Eaton M112 and they are in the 490 - 510 wheel horsepower range. Back in the "400 horsepower is alot" era, this big power gain (150+ hp) for only $1700 total was what helped them to run with dedicated sports cars and Euro exotics. Given that a stock 405hp C5 Z06 dynos at 345 wheel horsepower, I'd say the 03-04 Cobra belongs in this list.
I was looking for a fun daily. Searched around and found a 2012 mustang gt. Bought it just before the car market crashed for 16k. Previous owner did a lot to it and it's surely a rocket ship absolute bargain. Been dead reliable and a ton of fun.
The C6, 2011-14 Mustang and the 08-10 SRT8 Challenger is what I am eyeing on. They are all good cars, and plan on trying to get one around July-August.
Honorable mention - 2003 Ford Lightning. I loved that bad boy maybe even more than my '04 Cobra (identical to 6:36). Bigger engine, better build, better seats. I don't recommend anyone buying any of these. Unless you find 1 w/ very low mileage. They plastic junk.
What a great video, pretty entertaining thank you. My favorite of course is what I own, the 2013 Mustang GT my upgrades have managed to give me 520HP over the 420 stock, thank you American Muscle and Brenspeed
Just a note on the C6: only the 2005 had a 4 speed auto (4L65). 2006-2013 would have the 6 speed auto (6L80). Sure would have hated to buy that first year when it came out only to see them drop the 6 speed next year!
Dude you had alot of funny parts in your video. I really appreciate you putting it together and sharing. The 6th Gen corvette with a cobalt steering wheel had me laughing out loud. I really needed that. My girl had a cobalt back in 2007. I came close a couple of times to buying a c6. I thought the steering wheel did suck. Never put it together though.
😂Yeah it's a little unfortunate that they did that but I still don't think it's a bad looking wheel. Did you get somethin besides a C6 or that was all you were considering? I appreciate the love🙏
@@LibertyDrives I ended up with a mint c3 instead of the c6. That has been many years back. Even the c3 has been gone a good three years now. I usually don't marry my cars. I get them enjoy and then move to the next.
@@vmoya6631 Lol I gotcha, that's fair. My father's got a C3 and I love that thing. I've flipped a C4 myself, and my end goal someday is a C7 (with maybe a C6 before that as kind of an introduction to it lol)
@@LibertyDrives For many years I had very clean vettes. Basically put all my feelings into them. Now days I try not to be like that. I currently have three new edge mustangs and two bmws. Nothing fancy on any of them. Just good street cars I like. I use motorcycles for speed and a higher level of excitement. Cbr 1000 rr for speed, two Harleys for beauty and a motocross bike to fly.
My 01 Z06 made 352 whp SAE completely stock. A lot of other 01s do as well, and plenty of 02-04 Z06s dyno 330. All 4 years are basically a crap shoot. If you are including the Terminator the 01 Z06 should definitely be on there, it took my friend's terminator an intake, pulley, X pipe and tune at 437 whp to keep up with my stock 01 Z06.
:17 I think this body style Camaro looks better than a new one, I also think the C5 Corvette is the best looking Corvette ever except for the C6 Zo6 and ZR1!
a nice runner up would be the Ford Focus RS, 350hp awd interior is A1 and youll always turn heads, besides that the ctvs or the gto would be my choice from this video
2020 Scat pack Charger. 485 hp. It's a large and heavy car but you don't feel it. Can spin the rear in third gear and can get wiggle in the rear in 4th gear. Big torque(475) out of the 392.
That's exactly why you shouldnt buy one. Spins the tires in third gear while losing a race to a C5 Z06 that doesn't even spin in FIRST gear. That's what happens when you put 485 hp into a cheap basic car, vs a car designed and built to race on track.
I definitely love the cobras, I think I just didn't talk about em as much here cause they're so collectible that their prices are so much higher than the rest of these
Several that should’ve been on this list but isn’t is the Jeep Srt8, Ram SRT10, Lightning, Harley Davidson F150 supercharged, trailblazer SS, Silverado SS, SRT Magnum, 2011-14 F150, Pontiac G8/GXP, there’s probably more that haven’t came to mind but those are some that should be on the list.
I believe you are correct. I was born here in America, I'm African American. Unfortunately I can't obtain orr purchase these beautiful cars. Imagine being born in a country you love and you can't buy the cars it makes.
Bought a Camaro ss back in November no regrets so far super fun car haven’t had issues with it other than power steering pump going out but it was a quick fix
I knew the c5 z06 would make the list. Hell, I'm in the market for one right now, The LS6 was the more reliable and more capable track engine over the LS2 in the C6 and CTS-V. It had better cooling, more efficient intake, and improved heads optimizing cooling without starving the engine of fuel in high G corners. It's the best track car on this list with a more rigid chassis than any C6 including the ZR1 thanks to the FRC coupe. The L99 is a ls3 with a lower profile camshaft, and different mounting points to the transmission. The LSA was a forged LS3 block for a 20 percent gain in strength and a blower for 556 horsepower and 551 torque. It's the same block as the LS9 and a great option for ls9 performance at a cheaper price with mods. That was quite a bit, but I just love the corvette. I enjoyed the video
@@LibertyDrives yeah man, and your videos are no BS when compared to ideal media which seem focused more towards children. Just subbed. Good luck with the algorithm bro 🙌💪
Back in 2009, I wanted a cheap car that I could make fast. The 2000 Grand prix GTP was my choice. $5,000 dollars, under 50k miles and a rust free Florida car up here in MI. Didn't take much to get it to dyno 350hp and 400 torque (whp) after some bolt ons and a tune and switching over to E85 for 100 octane. Granted it's still a FWD car and not like these modern v8 RWD muscle cars that are everywhere today. One day, these V8s will be cheap and I'll be able to get one. I just have a hard time spending that much money on a vehicle that will get driven a few weekends a year. I hate living so far north sometimes.
I miss the old 3.8 v6, gm had a real winner with that engine they were hard to kill unlike everything they make now. I had a 04 gtp with a few bolt ons, I had a smaller pulley an intake and headers and down pipes with no cats. Even if it only made 300-350ish whp it sounded great and you couldn't fucking kill it. sadly im also up in Michigan and the rust really got to it.
@@chadbullock6326 The 3800s are very reliable. I daily drove my GTP in the summer for a few years after I bought it and tossed some mods on it. It mostly sat from 2013 to 2021. I finally got it back out. Even after sitting all those years it started right back up (new battery of course) Now with gas prices going back up I wouldn't mind a GTP again. Better than the truck I am currently driving.
Chrysler 300 srt 8 425 hp 4.7 0-60 05-06 Pontiac gto 400 hp Cts v 400 hp 2010-2013 camaro ss 426-400 hp Srt 8 challenger 425 hp 2011-2014 5.0 mustang 420 hp 4.5 0-60 02-04 corvette z06 405 hp 05-13 c6 corvette base 430 hp 03-04 svt cobra mustang 390 hp
I love my '14 R/T. I like the classic rear lights. Not fond of the light switch of '15 and up. I want to get better headlights though not halo shaped lights though just better than what I have.
I own a 2011 Ford Mustang GT/CS 5.0 (stock) that boasts 412 HP, but most people tell me that the flywheel yes, but rubber to the road I’m probably only pushing 380-390. Would that be true? If yes, why?
In all cars there's a little bit of horsepower lost between what comes out of the engine and what makes it to the road. There's little bits of inefficiency in the transmission and even a little in the rear diff probably that causes horsepower lost to turn into heat energy or audio energy, and parts can be strained a small amount when things start to move. It's worse for automatic cars usually. Even still though 390hp is not bad at all and I'm a huge fan of the 2011 GTs I hope I didn't overcomplicate that explanation😂
It's drivetrain loss. Your hp is inevitably going to be lost through the driveshaft and differential transfer case etc so your crank horsepower is always gonna be higher than your wheel hp
@Liberty Drives Not at all, I appreciate taking the time to respond to my comment. Also I've been told that I can make up the difference and even pass 412 hp with a simple Dyna Tune without investing heavy into modds for example like superchargers or turbos. I may look into that. Love the channel👍
@@vincenth.8793 Of course man, I'm happy to help. Definitely look into that and check reviews. That's probably a pretty fair statement that you could hit that wheel horsepower but make sure the tune company and mustang tunes from them are good. I've heard of people getting remote tunes and stuff like that and if they ever want to go back to stock then there's engine problems. I don't want to discourage you but just do your research and have fun!
Anybody know what I'm talking about with the GTOs??😂😂 Which one of these is your favorite?
The 05-06 GTO is a great car! Most people are sleeping on these cars, you can get one way cheaper then 17 grand. And they can do a 1/4 bone stock somewhere between 12.6 to 12.9 seconds with a good rear tire depending on how bad your sea level is. The GTO gets a bad rap for how slow the LS1 04 GTO is. 🤷🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️ FACTS
Agreed! Someone near my house owns one and every single time he goes by it sounds badass and I know it must really move. You said it all perfectly!
@Jamill Johnson A great choice
Nah don’t get a GTO if you are looking for cheaper. Id say G8 GT or GXP
The GTO and the G8 even tho the G8 are a lil less power wise
After my hellcat was stolen, I had a tight budget for another v8 muscle/sports car I started looking into chevy/Cadillac. I was stuck between the 09-13 cts-v and 10-13 Camaro SS. After a few weeks of looking around, I found a red 2013 camaro 2SS 1LE. Took it for a test drive and fell in love with the car. I paid 26k in total for the car, a little bit higher than average but that's Illinois for you
I’m sorry that happened to you man. I can’t imagine how that felt and I hope you get twice it’s worth one day in power and love for the car.
@@Xchax3 thanks man. I appreciate that. One day I'll get another hellcat but right now, I'm content with this camaro
Yeah sorry to hear about you're Hellcat man, that must've been heartbreaking. Still though you didn't make a bad choice with that Camaro by any means!
@@LibertyDrives it is what it is at this point. The silver lining of that whole ordeal was that I was able to buy a house and the camaro lol. Gotta appreciate the blessings that come your way, even in dark times
Did your insurance completely cover the cost of the vehicle?
NO doubt, C6 Corvette ! Don't know why so many people knock the interior of these, not bad at all on 2-4 lt models. 430 hp in a 3,000 lb. car makes it Very fast for a bone stock car ! 20-26 K for a Nice , Clean one w/mid 12 sec. 1/4 an 190 mph top end, what is NOT to like ? Only problem...? Very easy to loose tread on back tires ! :-) !
You said it perfectly! They're even decently "practical" with the big rear storage and the targa tops are awesome! And with a couple basic mods they go from stock looking to aggressive real quick
plus u can easily get 600 hp with an a&a supercharger
Yes the back just goes like crazy, friend of mine up in Hemet got one for around 22k, loves to beat the crap out of it but it can handle a heavy foot
Yeah I’m sorry buddy I’m one of them I got rid of mine but not really because of the interior I can’t find nobody to work on them to make the performance that I want in the PA area so I sold my 06 C6 Corvette and I got a ZL one Camaro and I really don’t regret it I love it it’s this brand new one six Gen It’s all what you like
C5 Z06 for me. Easily the best performing car on this list in every category imaginable.
Amen brotha
FACTS!!!!
Hell yeah
I’ve owned mine for 10 years and never selling it!
@@jimmycline4778 I'm jealous!
A great tidbit is the 6.1 hemi absolutely loves mods. Basic bolt ons and a custom tune lets them run with scat packs and the modern SS/5.0.
What years are the better ones in your opinion..?
@@Luminous.Dynamics Any of the 6.1 cars are good, but the manual is gonna be better than the auto, so i'd say an 08-10 Challenger.
@@SRTBOAT
Is there any differences between the 2008 models and the 2010 models?
@@Luminous.Dynamics to my knowledge, there's no difference. They revamped the interior on the 08', and they were far more comfortable than the 06-07 cars.
Door panels got leather, the sound system got better, the dash was redesigned to be more modern, and the modern infotainment system was added that was touch screen.
Performance wise they're the exact same though. Challengers just have a manual option while the Charger is auto only
The CTS-V is such a sick car, plus I've seen quite a few for right around $10,000. I have a 3.6l CTS. It smoked my buddies v6 mustang and for a v6, drifts like a dream
the 3.6 v6 cts is fun as fuck to slide around, and 10k for a ctsv where?
Prices are about spot on, I'm in WA and I got my SRT8 Challenger (6speed manual) for 18k with a few mods already installed.....no regrets and since Hellcats are a thing now, people actually underestimate the hell out of these now and think they're slow😂
dude thats the hookup wa dont play with car prices
Is your challenger red by chance?
@@alexnaranjo8760 nah it's black lol
@@ZayNeedsSpeed right, I'm just glad I got mine before all this inflation bullshit happened cuz cars are insane now🤦♂️😂
I’m glad the 03-04 cobra was in but their advertised hp vs how they actually performed were different they make over 400 crank stock and they’re capable of 900 on stock block
Yeah those cobra engines are wild, I've seen some insane builds
Just add a Whipple super charger, a tune, and some suspension work and you’ll have a monster car. I dream of the day I own a Terminator
@@declangregory4048 they might be the greatest mustang ever created it’s so raw my buddy has a ported eaton mystichrome terminator and from the first time I rode in it I loved it I’m going to get one this year
@@declangregory4048 You can absolutely get there if you stay focused on it man, make it happen✊
My step dad has a 04 cobra with 750 hp
I'm glad you added the 300c srt8 not many people even know they were made. Keep up the vids 💯
They're great cars and power bargains, thank you brotha🙏 will do
Love to see the 300 gettin some love
@@boise300 same I have a black srt 💪
@@BaggdaddySRT hell yeah bro, I got the 3.6 but it’s gettin the ripp kit real soon, gonna be pushin 500 till I get a hemi, do you have pics of the srt tho? I’d love to see it man
@@BaggdaddySRT just picked my 300 SRT8 up last month🤤
Bought my ‘86 Pontiac Firebird with a 350 and a 5 speed for $8200 at 19 years old (one year ago), near mint condition. Could not be happier.
always had a soft spot for the GTO aka the Goat. Looking passed the interior, I weirdly love the looks of those things. It looks like so many different cars smashed together.
C5 Z06 is what i tell people is the "realistic dream car" lol
Glad to see the GTO on the list. My dad had an 05, FBO/ big cam and long tube headers. Made roughly 580 wheel on a bad day. It was fun growing up and learning how to drive in it.
I'm jealous!😂 Sounds like one helluva car to grow up with
@@LibertyDrives he got it when I was 4 and sold it when I was 16 so yeah I grew up with it. If I remember correctly he had upgraded clutch and flywheel, comp cams, custom tune, full exhaust. The only other thing to do was slap a turbo or supercharger on it but he got “too old” to keep driving it(stick of course) 🤦🏻♂️
Honorable mention :
2017-20 Lincoln MKZ 3.0 t AWD .
400hp/400TQ
4191Lbs
6spd auto
0-60 5.1seconds.
1/4 mile 13.3 @104 mph
Preciated dawg
You're absolutely right! Sounds like an awesome car from what I've heard and great job doing the specs lol. You lookin for any part-time work??😂😂
I love my mkz 3.0TT. Fast, classy, beautiful car. BTW, they have been clocked at 4.9 0-60 stock on premium fuel. Even better with a tune.
The cylinder deactivation on ANY v8 is not a benefit. Nothing but issues
great idea... poor execution in my opinion.
That's not a feature I want on a car. Not ever.
On the newer chargers it helps tons on highways.
Agreed! Cylinder deactivation is but an evil spurred on by more stringent emissions regulations and have shown itself to be a source of reliability concerns.
I love the CTS-V's and the GTO's, if you could find them cheap the G8 is also one of my favorites
Just got a 2010 2ss, unbelievable power and sounds like a T-rex. In love.
I am loving my 2013 GT Mustang. Power to ya, man.
I love my Second gen coupe. Best car I’ve ever owned. The 556 stock hp was fun but I got use to it quick. It’s not sitting at 950 wheel hp and 1150 on nitrous.
That SS part had my dying ☠️☠️☠️
I always love that one😂😂
Brooooooooo, lmfao!
Honorable mention Challenger RT. With the track pack option and manual they have a posi rear and 3.92 gears. This makes them actually quick with 410 foot pounds of torque that rivals most on this list. 376hp tho so a bit shy of 400.
And the Infinity Q50 and Q60 are both 400 HP and cost aroiund $50,000 in 2016. Twin Turbos and fun to drive. Best sleeper going. Great styling.
Also get 21 MPG in and around milage.
Dude, I bought a 2014 challenger srt8 about 5 months ago for $20k, a few bolt ons and a tune later im sitting on a lil over 500 hp best decision I ever made
What was the mileage? I'm looking for an older srt myself but most I see are like 25 to 30 grand with like 50 to 80 thousand miles
@@fierro7771 mine had 94k miles on the odometer but the previous owner kept up with all the maintenance and took care of any recalls before selling it to me for a bargain, I really lucked out
I love the styling and design of the CTS-V. Add on the fact it’s a luxury car with features not seen on other cars at that time, and it’s got a freaking LS engine, RWD, and only comes in manual… this thing is sexy af
Amen!😂
Coming from the "jdm" scene due it be so expensive , i ended up buying a c5 and fell in love. Its amazing for the money plus a couple of thousands dollars in go fast mods make a big difference in the ls family compared to my is300 and sc400.
I love a clean C5, having had a C4 for a little while, I'd say C5s seem like one of the best bang for buck deals as far as corvettes go
@@LibertyDrives Absoutely, its amazing the comments i get from men and women on how beautiful the car is plus every vette owner wants to park next to ya. i really happy with vette community.
@@jdmjerm6345 I bet man, that's awesome. I'm excited to be a part of it some day
@JDM Jerm if you wanted cheap power you should have went Honda. An untuned NA B20 swap in an eg hatch will walk any muscle car with 400hp. AWD is very affordable to implement as well if you're not accustomed to the FWD dig. But everyone knows that there's nothing more dangerous on the streets as "that guy with a laptop and a CRX"
@@elliswilliams1050 i like to drift n plan to compete. c5 can do it all n ticked all checkboxes.
2021 Camaro 1SS owner A10 here. I paid 40 grand. 422 to the wheels 455lb torque. :) 455 at crank.
2017 mustangs even 18’s could be found around 25-29k w not many miles
The 13-14 GTs actually do 0-60 in 4.3 at best, and 4.5 on average. I love mine for certain.
I owned a 2008 charger srt8. 425 hp great sound. Super comfy. Great daily. Bought it for 11k with 75000 miles
Damn nice steal man i bought me the Chrysler 300 SRT8 with the same engine and im loving it
Great deal
I love the effort you put in to this with the memes and everything you should have 1 mil subs keep it up
🙏🙏Thank you very much brotha, I really appreciate that
i feel like the trailblazer ss should get an honorable mention
not quite 400 hp but close and shares the same engine with the gto
The 03-04 cobra actually has more 400hp. It was advertised for insurance purposes during that time. But if you bought one from the factory and took it to the dyno. The hp would be about 419 torque same numbers. Depending on elevation..
That was the Terminator version
@@cmwhitt18 03-04 Cobra is the Terminator. Terminator only refers to the 03-04 Cobra development program.
At the dyno, bone stock Terminators posted between 368ish to some healthy ones posting high 370s to low 380s at the tires; which with drivetrain loss factored in, does equate to 419ish flywheel horsepower. No stock Terminator ever posted 419 wheel horsepower without mods as 419 whp is about 470 - 480 flywheel horsepower. What's good about the Terminators however, is that with pulley, intake, throttle body, exhaust and a tune, they are easily in the 460 wheel horsepower range. Port the Eaton M112 and they are in the 490 - 510 wheel horsepower range. Back in the "400 horsepower is alot" era, this big power gain (150+ hp) for only $1700 total was what helped them to run with dedicated sports cars and Euro exotics. Given that a stock 405hp C5 Z06 dynos at 345 wheel horsepower, I'd say the 03-04 Cobra belongs in this list.
I was looking for a fun daily. Searched around and found a 2012 mustang gt. Bought it just before the car market crashed for 16k. Previous owner did a lot to it and it's surely a rocket ship absolute bargain. Been dead reliable and a ton of fun.
Sounds like a fantastic ride, I really love those
love the confusing fact that GTOs just sound better then other LS cars just cause and when you hear them in person they always do.
😂I'm glad it's not just me haha
The C6, 2011-14 Mustang and the 08-10 SRT8 Challenger is what I am eyeing on. They are all good cars, and plan on trying to get one around July-August.
Srt8 over mustang. The mustang was fun but still have my srt8 haven’t driven a corvette so I don’t have an opinion on that
@@mickkinney4013 I decided on the 2013 GT Mustang and I am enjoying it so far. I love the SRT8's torque, but it is too boaty for me.
Bro that hellcat “best super charger wine” got me rollin 6:50🤣mopar or no car!
Mopar is garbage , big ass boats
Honorable mention - 2003 Ford Lightning. I loved that bad boy maybe even more than my '04 Cobra (identical to 6:36). Bigger engine, better build, better seats.
I don't recommend anyone buying any of these. Unless you find 1 w/ very low mileage. They plastic junk.
If you included SUV’s, the 2006-10 Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT8 and the 2006 Chevrolet Blazer SS would also be good options.
i really want the c6. it’s such a good car. it’s a timeless masterpiece
What a great video, pretty entertaining thank you. My favorite of course is what I own, the 2013 Mustang GT my upgrades have managed to give me 520HP over the 420 stock, thank you American Muscle and Brenspeed
Thank you very much!! Sounds like you've got a badass ride and lol American Muscle is great
Just a note on the C6: only the 2005 had a 4 speed auto (4L65). 2006-2013 would have the 6 speed auto (6L80).
Sure would have hated to buy that first year when it came out only to see them drop the 6 speed next year!
Yeah that definitely would've been unfortunate😂 My b on the misinformation but thank you for lettin me know!
Tbh the 03-04 cobras are so under rated, the numbers Ford gave is more of whp rather than crank HP, those termis are easily pushing more than 400 HP
I believe it
That last gif about the mustang supercharger whine and the hellcat owner punching his laptop had me dying 😂
Lmao glad to hear it brotha
Dude you had alot of funny parts in your video. I really appreciate you putting it together and sharing. The 6th Gen corvette with a cobalt steering wheel had me laughing out loud. I really needed that. My girl had a cobalt back in 2007. I came close a couple of times to buying a c6. I thought the steering wheel did suck. Never put it together though.
😂Yeah it's a little unfortunate that they did that but I still don't think it's a bad looking wheel. Did you get somethin besides a C6 or that was all you were considering? I appreciate the love🙏
@@LibertyDrives I ended up with a mint c3 instead of the c6. That has been many years back. Even the c3 has been gone a good three years now. I usually don't marry my cars. I get them enjoy and then move to the next.
@@vmoya6631 Lol I gotcha, that's fair. My father's got a C3 and I love that thing. I've flipped a C4 myself, and my end goal someday is a C7 (with maybe a C6 before that as kind of an introduction to it lol)
@@LibertyDrives For many years I had very clean vettes. Basically put all my feelings into them. Now days I try not to be like that. I currently have three new edge mustangs and two bmws. Nothing fancy on any of them. Just good street cars I like. I use motorcycles for speed and a higher level of excitement. Cbr 1000 rr for speed, two Harleys for beauty and a motocross bike to fly.
My 01 Z06 made 352 whp SAE completely stock. A lot of other 01s do as well, and plenty of 02-04 Z06s dyno 330. All 4 years are basically a crap shoot. If you are including the Terminator the 01 Z06 should definitely be on there, it took my friend's terminator an intake, pulley, X pipe and tune at 437 whp to keep up with my stock 01 Z06.
:17 I think this body style Camaro looks better than a new one, I also think the C5 Corvette is the best looking Corvette ever except for the C6 Zo6 and ZR1!
I’m definitely gonna get a charger, mustang gt or camaro
Definitely 5th gen maro
Nah getting a mustang gt 5.0 10 speed it gaps camaros 👍🏼
@tum yeah they do my friend hasn’t done much to his and gaps camaros
@@heatrg1090 what fucking mustang has a 10 speed in it
@@heatrg1090 5.0 overrated af, I have a 5th gen camaro ss. Can’t wait for the value 📈
LMAO THE HELLCAT MEME CAUGHT BY SUPRISE AND BOY WAS THAT FUNNY
😂😂 Gotcha!
a nice runner up would be the Ford Focus RS, 350hp awd interior is A1 and youll always turn heads, besides that the ctvs or the gto would be my choice from this video
11-23 dodge charger RTs are 400HP+ after a 93 tune, differential upgrade, and a CAI.
2020 Scat pack Charger. 485 hp. It's a large and heavy car but you don't feel it. Can spin the rear in third gear and can get wiggle in the rear in 4th gear. Big torque(475) out of the 392.
It says cheapest, that’s a $50k car that my 2013 5.0 I paid 15k for would smoke
That's exactly why you shouldnt buy one. Spins the tires in third gear while losing a race to a C5 Z06 that doesn't even spin in FIRST gear. That's what happens when you put 485 hp into a cheap basic car, vs a car designed and built to race on track.
@@Carguylogan To each his own, i change cars like i change my shoes. I can afford to sample whatever i want.
New sub👏🏽 love it. My fav is the srt8 challenger. Big boat😁
😂🙏 Thanks very much! Big boat but they pack some power💪
I have an LS2 GTO but you gotta put more respect on the terminator cobra 🙌
Apostate
I definitely love the cobras, I think I just didn't talk about em as much here cause they're so collectible that their prices are so much higher than the rest of these
Several that should’ve been on this list but isn’t is the Jeep Srt8, Ram SRT10, Lightning, Harley Davidson F150 supercharged, trailblazer SS, Silverado SS, SRT Magnum, 2011-14 F150, Pontiac G8/GXP, there’s probably more that haven’t came to mind but those are some that should be on the list.
All great options! I tried to keep these to American muscle/sports cars, but those are all still definitely ones to consider
I believe you are correct.
I was born here in America,
I'm African American.
Unfortunately I can't obtain orr purchase these beautiful cars.
Imagine being born in a country you love and you can't buy the cars it makes.
That was a great list, it helped me out alot Camaro SS it is 🥶🥶👑
Gotta love an LS3 (or L99 lol)
the 2nd gen cts-v is so overlooked.
it really is but they're badass cars!
Bought a Camaro ss back in November no regrets so far super fun car haven’t had issues with it other than power steering pump going out but it was a quick fix
😂🙏 That's awesome man! Congrats on the semi new buy
Fun fact the cobra made more horses for said it made 390 but it made 415 ish
gotta love the c6. great list as usual
I'm with ya! Thank you very much🙏
GTO may sound like 350hp LS1 which apparently is slow? Explain how
That last part where he punched the laptop was pretty funny ngl 😂
😂🙏
I knew the c5 z06 would make the list. Hell, I'm in the market for one right now, The LS6 was the more reliable and more capable track engine over the LS2 in the C6 and CTS-V. It had better cooling, more efficient intake, and improved heads optimizing cooling without starving the engine of fuel in high G corners. It's the best track car on this list with a more rigid chassis than any C6 including the ZR1 thanks to the FRC coupe.
The L99 is a ls3 with a lower profile camshaft, and different mounting points to the transmission. The LSA was a forged LS3 block for a 20 percent gain in strength and a blower for 556 horsepower and 551 torque. It's the same block as the LS9 and a great option for ls9 performance at a cheaper price with mods.
That was quite a bit, but I just love the corvette. I enjoyed the video
All good man😂🙏 I loved the info and it's definitely interesting how the engines compare. Thanks for the love!
@@LibertyDrives yeah man, and your videos are no BS when compared to ideal media which seem focused more towards children. Just subbed. Good luck with the algorithm bro 🙌💪
@@ryanrake2714 That's how I try to keep it lol, thank you very much brotha!
@@LibertyDrives your welcome man. It’s great work. Keep it up💪
A great starting point.
The editor is great! I love it!
6:49 I lost it 😂😂😂😂😂😭😭😭😭😭
😂👉👉
how can u pass on a zr 1 1990 thru 1995 very fast car and great handling
Bro Cash nasty at the end killed me😂💀
In the UK, you can buy a Mercedes-Benz S Class 6.2 S63 AMG 7G-Tronic 4dr with over 520 HP used for £16,000
I am definitely a mustang guy I love Mustangs
The srt8 are def more than that. They in the 20’s at least
The whole list was good, but I always had a special thing for those 300 SRT8’s
They're badass cars
The c5 zo6 are great but so are those c6 both are so easy to build plus the power to weight on both are great
The Lincoln MKZ 3.0 AWD has 400HP, and it’s pretty cheap
Aye man good shit. Vid was super well structured, funny, and entertaining. You're gonna make it man
Thank you brotha! I really appreciate that🙏
You really are underrated
Get this man more subscribers
Aye thank you very much! I genuinely appreciate that🙏
Not right now. And if you did they have savage titles and base models.
Vetted every day of the week
Entry level muscle Cars.
I have a g8 but my fav is the gto lol looks so mean 🔥🔥
They're both badass cars!
Seeing I own a srt8 300c I'm gonna have to go with that lol by far the most comfortable 420 horsepower I've been in lol
300 SRT fam
Damn no love for g8's huh, great platform and reasonable cheap
That best supercharger whine meme got you a sub 😂
Lmao thank you brotha
6 definitely
Honorable mention the G8!!
Really love those! I remember considering em but I forget why I didn't include em. Still, I definitely should've mentioned them at the end at least💪
The memes throughout had me lmao good video👍
Thank ya very much man!🙏 I appreciate it
Back in 2009, I wanted a cheap car that I could make fast. The 2000 Grand prix GTP was my choice. $5,000 dollars, under 50k miles and a rust free Florida car up here in MI.
Didn't take much to get it to dyno 350hp and 400 torque (whp) after some bolt ons and a tune and switching over to E85 for 100 octane. Granted it's still a FWD car and not like these modern v8 RWD muscle cars that are everywhere today.
One day, these V8s will be cheap and I'll be able to get one. I just have a hard time spending that much money on a vehicle that will get driven a few weekends a year. I hate living so far north sometimes.
I miss the old 3.8 v6, gm had a real winner with that engine they were hard to kill unlike everything they make now. I had a 04 gtp with a few bolt ons, I had a smaller pulley an intake and headers and down pipes with no cats. Even if it only made 300-350ish whp it sounded great and you couldn't fucking kill it. sadly im also up in Michigan and the rust really got to it.
@@chadbullock6326 The 3800s are very reliable. I daily drove my GTP in the summer for a few years after I bought it and tossed some mods on it.
It mostly sat from 2013 to 2021. I finally got it back out. Even after sitting all those years it started right back up (new battery of course)
Now with gas prices going back up I wouldn't mind a GTP again. Better than the truck I am currently driving.
GTO LOOKS LIKE A FREAKING CAVALIER
You literally complained about all the numbers but look at you, that's all your saying
Chrysler 300 srt 8 425 hp 4.7 0-60
05-06 Pontiac gto 400 hp
Cts v 400 hp
2010-2013 camaro ss 426-400 hp
Srt 8 challenger 425 hp
2011-2014 5.0 mustang 420 hp 4.5 0-60
02-04 corvette z06 405 hp
05-13 c6 corvette base 430 hp
03-04 svt cobra mustang 390 hp
C6 all day. Want one so bad, but they are marked up to over 30k now.
I love my '14 R/T. I like the classic rear lights. Not fond of the light switch of '15 and up. I want to get better headlights though not halo shaped lights though just better than what I have.
Me and mu buddy cruise around him in his 13 rt and me in my 13 gt
@@churlafangaming1671 That sounds like a really fun time!
I like the Chrysler SRT 8.
I really want a 6.1 challenger ngl
Love how he says only 350 hp for 2004 gto you can do very small upgrades and get up to 400 easy I wouldn’t want to spend 5-7k more for only 50 hp.
I have a 04 and that shit shredding tires left and right 🤷♂️🤣
350s not bad by any means😂 And yeah it'd definitely be better to mod it for the extra horsepower, you're not wrong at all
I have a 2011 hyundai equus, Its 385 stock, Just a minor exhaust tune up and its exceeding 400.
That's pretty wild!😂 Sounds like a fun car
Your favorite one is the challenger👍🏼
I’m stuck between the 2013 GT or the 2013 SRT8 challenger
Yeah I actually bought the GTO LS2 when it came out
You lucky dog!
I own a 2011 Ford Mustang GT/CS 5.0 (stock) that boasts 412 HP, but most people tell me that the flywheel yes, but rubber to the road I’m probably only pushing 380-390. Would that be true? If yes, why?
In all cars there's a little bit of horsepower lost between what comes out of the engine and what makes it to the road. There's little bits of inefficiency in the transmission and even a little in the rear diff probably that causes horsepower lost to turn into heat energy or audio energy, and parts can be strained a small amount when things start to move. It's worse for automatic cars usually. Even still though 390hp is not bad at all and I'm a huge fan of the 2011 GTs
I hope I didn't overcomplicate that explanation😂
It's drivetrain loss. Your hp is inevitably going to be lost through the driveshaft and differential transfer case etc so your crank horsepower is always gonna be higher than your wheel hp
@Liberty Drives Not at all, I appreciate taking the time to respond to my comment.
Also I've been told that I can make up the difference and even pass 412 hp with a simple Dyna Tune without investing heavy into modds for example like superchargers or turbos. I may look into that. Love the channel👍
@@gravestone9831 A great shorter explanation lol
@@vincenth.8793 Of course man, I'm happy to help. Definitely look into that and check reviews. That's probably a pretty fair statement that you could hit that wheel horsepower but make sure the tune company and mustang tunes from them are good. I've heard of people getting remote tunes and stuff like that and if they ever want to go back to stock then there's engine problems. I don't want to discourage you but just do your research and have fun!
03 and 04 cobra rated 390 crank seen tons of dynos of them making more than 390 at wheels
You want cheap reliable horsepower LED driver get the car he skipped over the Camaro SS
2-3 years ago these prices were a lot lower. It's too bad the car market got so bad.
😂Yeah I wish these prices didn't all age as badly as they did