So to summarize 10mins of video: -Knowingly sold lemons on EBay -Got dinged by negative feedback from sale of lemons -Created fake accounts to artificially inflate his own feedback rating -Scammed buyers by making fake bids with fake accounts -Got banned for life This guy is literally the reason why people are skeptical of buying off EBay
Going to listen to all of these. I will miss this dude's voice, his stories, his smile and Witt. We lost this man, but we will always have these memories.
Sellers like Rob were so common in the day. Part of my practice in bidding was to look at a sellers history. If I saw the $.99 items in abundance pumping up the score I wouldn't bid. Ebay is more expensive today than it was in the early 2000's but it's also much better without sellers like this.
Yep, proxy bidding on eBay or in a live auction is CORRUPT but, unfortunately like here, it happens all the time. I sold an Acura TL on eBay back in 2006 myself. In fact, I used to sell a LOT of stuff on eBay but like many here I quit after one buyer tried to screw me back in 2015 (I think) and eBay did everything they could to make it MY problem. I got PROOF from the delivery company that the item had been delivered and SIGNED for by someone at the address. The buyer claimed it was "stolen off his porch". eBay backed him but paypal verified the delivery and backed me. Never did business with eBay again after that
This guy is a great salesman but this is why I'm not in car wholesaling anymore. Car dealers see nothing wrong with almost every immoral, unethical, or illegal tactic as long as they're making money. I literally sat at the auction one sale day and listened to two car dealers talk about how much profit they've made ripping off their own mothers on car deals.
I'm no fan of salesmen of any kind - most don't have a clue about what they're selling which I consider a pretty fundamental requirement. But I have to say, buyers are often no better in terms of morality or honesty. There's apparently a saying in the car sales world - "Buyers are liars".
@@Cammmmeron The "buyers are liars" saying is due to clients giving buying signals, or even saying I want to go with this car but want to talk with my wife/husband first and then go ghost. Also when the client lies about their credit history.
@@WCARomans777 haha okay yeah now I see, at the dealership I'm at I've never heard someone use that term but it definitely fits haha I will say we all do joke about that... gotta love the "what APR will you guys give me", sir it depends on your credit and... "my credit is perfect"... credit check comes back, garbage hahaha classic or when they tie you up for hours and then play the wife card haha
@@Cammmmeron "I got to check with the F&I office" *customer blames you and says your just stalling*........ seriously, i worked in customer service for 13 years and a majority of customers are just pissed off idiots with a superiority complex... I personally like the lawyers and doctors who think having a degree makes them instantly more smarter and ,just like the scarecrow from wizard of oz, they still don't know the difference between a right triangle and an isosceles. to the rest of the commenters when it comes to sales, if you let them walk out the door, you lost them. most people with no credit going to buy a car are going to get a 16k car with the apr for 66 months and end up paying 36k... at the end of the day, who the fucks going to walk outside and not realize that buying a 16k car for 36k is a stupid idea. its not that we're trying to be shady, were doing what we can, but your not giving us much to work with.
I've been on eBay for almost 20 years. Over that time, I've seen the playing field tilted strongly toward the buyer, and it's more burdensome to sell than it used to be. I suspect the reason may be people like this guy.
100% agree. When Ebay first started I would go to yard sales and buy stuff and flip it on Ebay and made decent money but then they jacked their fees up and Paypay fees went up it ate up all the profits.
I had a guy buy an item AS-IS from Canada and because USCBP damaged the item he complained to eBay and I was forced to deduct money from the sales purchase to accommodate the buyer. I had a box loaded with the item and its carrying case and had so much crumpled up newspaper inside the box that it wasn't moving anywhere inside the box
Most, including myself, will say the opposite. I will only buy inexpensive electronic parts off eBay. Other than that, I won't play. Too hard to tell who are the bigger scammers, the sellers or eBay.
@@puffykonez I was burned selling an Xbox one in a similar fashion. Just repaired it, factory reset, tested it for about a week. Sold it, USPS damaged it, was forced to issue an entire refund. No return of product either. I was pretty green at the time, and now I know the steps to help prevent the loss, but still sucked.
K. Chris Caldwell the buyers. You can open a case up and get your money back, no questions asked. You can use the item for a month. You don’t even have to return the same item back. Hell, you can send back a brick. Ebay takes buyers side 99.9% of the time. Only a lazy idiot can get scammed on eBay.
That "simple trick" is called shill bidding, and has gotten at least two auctioneers in NJ sent to prison for fraud in the last twenty years, when done in "meatspace".
This guy is a decent storyteller and i was ready to leap to his defense until he casually admitted to fraud. -this trick- _fraud_ got me banned from ebay so, uh, nevermind.
Yes. I just listened to his high school entrepreneur video where he admitted to lying to his teachers, the principal, the elderly lady across the street…..fascinating storyteller but a little shady on the ethics.
I cant believe how candid this guy was about his dishonest practice. There was almost a sense of pride. How is it that people dealing in cars lose their moral compass?
greed. i had the British owner of 3 prominent Volkswagen dealers in Chicago admit to me and a mechanic he sold me a CPO car with a bad clutch and transmission. There's no shame, just greed.
Well, basically because criminals, which Pitts IS, have no moral compass in the first place. They look at it as, "If you're stupid enough to fall for their con job, that's 'your' fault, shame on you for thinking people will be honest". That's HOW they do it, and that's WHY they do it. Pitts should be in prison, really.
Fact is, there is no actual money in cars. It's just bullshit and finance. The biggest crooks actually make and sell new cars. Look how they've convinced Americans that they need a new car every 2.5 years and should take out an average loan of $55k to get one that will be worth less than $30k before they can even put that first fart into the upholstery. The whole industry is a scam and this guy is just a bottom feeder.
@@festungkurland9804 If you can prove it, collect your evidence and submit it to the department of justice for a complaint of wire fraud. "You can be charged under 18 U.S. Code Section 1343 for wire fraud. Shill bidding is considered a kind of wire fraud, which is a federal offense. According to Section 1343 of 18 U.S. Code, you can get up to two decades of a prison sentence. "
@@Mjws2907 First of all, it depends on the state that prosecutes since it was online is therefore interstate commerce. And it would depend on what class the crime committed is considered in that state. Second, did I say he was lucky that he isn't being prosecuted, or lucky that he wasn't...as in past tense? Maybe read before you try to be a smart ass on a year old comment.
Harold, that's not actually true. A few years ago, I found an honest used car salesman...and ended up with a beautiful '99 Volvo AWD. As it happens, he uses the same repair shop that I do, and takes the cars he buys at auction there, to find out what, if any, problems it has...then shows this info to prospective buyers. My Volvo eventually died, but only because I ignored a serious problem that cropped up several years after I bought it...makes me feel really stupid.
He talks about E Bay as if they are in the wrong. When infact all his practices were aimed at deceiveing the buying public,ie me and you. Well done eBay I say.
He is the wrong, but it's also true there are some realities of business that a strict and outdated 'feedback' system doesn't really do to protect those just trying to sell cars. "I bought this used for $8,000 less than I would have at a certified pre-owned dealership, runs great, but I don't like the fact one of the brake lights was out when I drove it away...1 Star, will never do business again" Kinda silly when you think about it. Doesn't justify necessarily what he did, but when you don't have a bunch of employees, and no brick and mortar location, and you're trying to make a living off a platform that does nothing to protect or promote you...sometimes you might have to fudge a few things to make a profit.
This is 100% true, dude is in the wrong, but how many people have you met in life that are total entitled assholes soon as money is involved? The customer isn't ALWAYS right. If ebay would review and protect sellers every once in a while they wouldn't be encouraging bad sellers to work the system.
nonya biz there's buyer feedback just the same as seller feedback, isn't there? To identify problem customers? And there's a difference between a customer occasionally acting "entitled" which sounds like an attitude problem and a seller consistently committing systematic wire fraud.
Rob is a very entertaining guy. He and his co-host interviewed me about the Cannonball record a few months ago and I have enjoyed hearing his car stories since then. He has some great ones.
so he got banned because he isa sheister, a bid shiller, and a ripoff con man in general? he is what wrecked ebay and he is the reason that honest vendors like me stopped selling on ebay. He is also the reason that nobody should ever buy a car off ebay.
Yep, I love a lot of the deals I've gotten on eBay, but most I know are afraid to use the platform still to this day because of how much fraud and scams have deflated the name of it. My father-in-law, for example, finds items he likes, makes a list, and then has me place the order for him, which is smart, that way I can check it out and make sure its legit, and I also know the rules a bit better. I mean really, eBay is now very muchso catered in the buyer's favor so I don't think the fear is really necessary, but there's always someone pulling off some scam on these platforms (even Amazon has been getting hit with tons of scam sellers lately).
Phillip Killion as a small time car parts seller on eBay, it is hard to scam someone as a seller. eBay will side with the 99.9% of the time and take their word for everything. (Not saying I’ve tried to scam, just been scammed. )
Rip rabbit, you’re the reason i found this channel and was able to follow the things you did, you’ll be remembered by nothing less than amazing stories & memories full of joy!
Gus Kipper lol my sister had an fx45 Infiniti a couple years back and it consumed a gallon of oil every couple weeks and smoked blue like no other.I think we got 6g's of So for the trade in value
Or they just want a different car. I know rich guys who trade in their exotic cars every 4 months, so they get to try a new one, without taking a hit on a depreciation ... and they always have a new exotic car ... that never has a 2 year service issue that breaks apart and cost $20,000 to fix ....
danger450 That too. Also it's not unusual for older folk to realize their dream car is actually harsh riding and not very comfortable so they trade it in for something milder.
I used to do that to my own bids in the late 90s - early 2000s. HOWEVER, I hate that they removed the ability to comment on feedback - I think the people on there now (last 10 years) are better than what it was before.
"If you tell me something that intrigues me, I'm gunna research the hell out of it." I'm the EXACT same way. Would really like to hear more from this guy.
I did the same thing, Power Seller and everything twice over. My work around was using my friends names, and their bank accounts, and their accounts that I had set up for them. I must of had about 55 ebay accounts at one time ... Can't bullshit a bullshitter, I will find a way LOL
did the IRS send your friends a little letter asking for an explanation? So you have at least 55 friends that will let you use there bank account and SS number? Do you know what the feds do with smart guys like you? You will at the very least be one of those guys dodging leans and living in a trailer in Oklahoma. Or 55 cases will get you federal jail.
I don't know on cars I look at what this dude did as a negotiation over bids lol. The people didn't have to keep bidding on a car if it was to high for them. Is it scummy? Yeah, but thats about it.
@@dunebasher1971 Not when he did it, it wasn't regulated. Also you can have shill bidders outside the US that wouldn't be affect by our laws. Have you ever been online? You know its more then the US on here right?
Ebay would be like Amazon today if they didn't get greedy with their fees and screw up the feedback system in the early to mid 2000's. I used to buy and sell a lot of different merchandise until they got greedy. Haven't been to eBay in years. Good story, Rob.
yeah it was banned from day 1, known as "shill bidding"...got one great car on Ebay, one pretty so so, but don't spend more than you can lose in any situation
likable guy but malice running thru the veins. i've had dozens of "friends" just like this pos. believe me, they always seem likable. he's lucky he only got booted off eBay and nobody ever came looking for him, including the Feds.
I use eBay seldomly and only for inexpensive items. Simply because I don't like doing business online. And a lot of these folks are why. Scam artists. Fraudsters. In the guise of being "good businessmen". No wonder a lot of people refer to eBay as FleaBay. Glad to year you're honest.
And not one single buyer has tried to screw you over or used the threat of negative feedback to blackmail you? And these claims of unblemished sellers accounts aren't made by ebay employees are they?😉
6ettinold oh I've had my fair share of eBay blackmail, but policies have changed over the past decade. Feedback extortion is now a punishable offense. Anyone who even hints at it gets their disputes closed out in my favor, and their negative feedback pulled.
Colin Johnston. It's shill bidding which is illegal and can be considered wire fraud. Maybe you should do some research. Hell just read the comments, there's people who have cited the specific laws.
I could listen to this dude recount his life story even if it was about becoming the first actuary to die of boredom and still love it. It is something to do with the cadence and the tone. Crazy good stuff! Thanks Rabbit.
It can across and pretentious and affected to me. And you can tell that he practises a lot. He's even memorised the EBay address from one, certified letter.
I'm torn between admiring his go-get-it initiative and wishing he saw some jail time. I simply don't have it in my soul to intentionally cheat people (I can honestly say in my 60 years of life I have never done so), and it makes me angry that there are those that not only make a game out of it but actually find it fun. I've times where I finally scraped together enough funds to responsibly bid on a piece of equipment badly needed only to have some Jerk use an underhanded play to deny that purchase at the last minute, when I set an upper limit that is all I can spend. You should be banned for life.
Bless ya! God loves a tryer! I kinda get the impression you might be labouring under the misapprehension the Ferderal Reserve is actually Ferderal in reality as well! The law is for the law abiding! Them that invent it also know there's a back door to it!
Jay Dunbar higher megapixels maybe, but that doesn't mean higher picture quality since the lens matters, the sensor and all other electronics matter and more stuff.
Yeah thanks for coming by and telling us how you cheat people out of money! Maybe you can have MS13 on next week to talk about how they steal peoples cars and turn it in to profits?
I worked at several different dealers managing the service dept. for13yrs. I can tell you without a doubt car salesmen /car sales is one of the most corrupt deceitful people and dealers on the planet. IDK why but it seems to be a common practice. It is shameful and you have to sell your soul to be a part of it or get out. I did honest work in the service dept. and never had to rip off customers to be successful. Our numbers were great and my techs were making good money. I still had to leave that work because of the overall corruption. I could not stay there and look at myself as a person with integrity.
I commented 6 years ago and I am back! Rob is a GOAT. This is where me and many others made a connection. God bless your family Rob. See you on the other side!
New a used car dealer that outsmart this...he was also a real estate investor that owned 22 furnished beachfront summer rental condos and would use the furnished PCs and internet connections in each condo during the fall and winter and when they weren’t rented out to push up his bids from different IP addresses. Karma got him in the end though and he died in 2012 from a pain pill overdose at the age of 38.
Yeah, this is some kind of fraud against the buyers who relied on Ebay's rules that sellers can't bid against the buyers. Buyers likely paid extra money to this asshole because of his fraudulent acts. This guy misrepresented his auctions to gain an illegal advantage over buyers.
@@chrismp006 Did you read what he said - he considers this guy part of the problem. EBay over corrected and now let's buyers like this jerk cheat sellers. That's why I avoid ebay.
MrSporkdude yup the goal is to sell the car 😂 no one sells the car being 100% truthful. Literally every sales person weather it be new tech old tech new cars used cars even if they think there not screwing you there still gonna use sales tactics for you to buy the car 💁
I like buying on Ebay, I totally support their actions. I cannot tolerate scammers that inflate biddings or feedback. I'm sorry you had to read a 605 pages book to work it out. I learned the pitfall right away, thus I have reported every single scammer I find and I'm proud of it. Next time social responsibility pays better.
It's not wrong to buy cars without looking at them. It's wrong to commit fraud in the selling of cars to absentees. Scammers like this are punished because they're scum who have shown that they aren't worthy to participate fully in society, not because the rest of us are jealous.
So he's basically one of those people that turned me off of ever buying a car on ebay. Isn't what he did considered illegal? Kind of a sleazy tactic if I say so myself..
Yes, illegal Federal law. Might as well hear stories about financial success made by bashing in windows with a brick and stealing merchandise, selling drugs, or pimping.
Yes and No. If I see a car, bid, and it goes above what I want to pay...then I don't pay. If you keep bidding...your fault. Illegal? Yes, because you can create artificial demand.
VINwiki can I suggest that you make playlists by the storyteller .. e.g if I am a new follower and want to watch All Ed's videos it would be easier to watch a play list rather than going through each video on the channel trying to find the ones u want to see .. so please sort the videos into play lists by the names of the story tellers. THanks
lol, As a person with a trust fund, I can honestly say that does not apply to everyone. People born into a Trust Fund did not have a choice. And while obviously they could decline the money, no one would do that. The only reason to live on this earth is to have fun, and typically fun things can be bought with money. So instead of hating people for having the money to buy themselves fun things, you should work more to do the same thing, or buy a lottery ticket.
I remember buying a phone off ebay. In the last few seconds, the seller (I suspect) jumped in with an alt account, ran the price up, and won the bid. But then he didn't pay, so I got an email informing me that the highest bidder didn't pay and asked if I wanted to buy for my most recent bid. The trouble here is my most recent bid was quite a bit higher than what I would have payed had not the price been run up. I ended up buying the phone for the higher price, but I feel cheated, so I haven't bought anything from ebay since.
Rob gives you a real run for your money, Ed, with regard to telling a great story. Nevertheless, Kimmy’s your ace up the sleeve. Rob, I’m your Huckleberry! Do your eBay sales through me! I’ve got a feeling it’ll be the equivalent of an MBA.
So Rob was the Sanford Wallace of shill bidding on eBay. I can't say I'm heartbroken that he got kicked off. I've seen plenty of shill bidding to illegitimately raise the price of an auction. A starting bid and reserve are tool to be used for a reason, even if they don't make you popular.
The other trick I see that really pisses me off is when you are about to win an auction for next to nothing and the seller prematurely ends it because of a "listing error".
As a long time seller what i find aggravating is it is not that hard for a half smart person to accomplish the same result without cheating... bragging about it just makes it that much worse. Start you item at the price you can let it go for... If no one wants it move on,simple... but the bragging ! That really piss me off. and the slack jaw morons the this it's cute... worse are the ones the take away is that eBay did something wrong ... how about opinion that the customers deserve to be ripped off.
Sean Thompson. I might even have problems with the way eBay does some things but certainly in this guys case he would still be benefiting form eBay if he had not been cheating. The excuse that he diopesn't like the way eBay does business or everyone does it are BS Everyone signs up under the same rules... he did not hurt ebay directly he hurt the people going by the rules.
Who’s came back to watch after you found out he passed away in August 2024
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This is so sad man
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So to summarize 10mins of video:
-Knowingly sold lemons on EBay
-Got dinged by negative feedback from sale of lemons
-Created fake accounts to artificially inflate his own feedback rating
-Scammed buyers by making fake bids with fake accounts
-Got banned for life
This guy is literally the reason why people are skeptical of buying off EBay
alexkg1 cause everyone else on eBay is on the up and up...
ffdtower1 Oh, so you're saying I can't murder people? Like nobody's ever murdered someone before. /S
This dude knows his stuff. Thinking about buying a car? Stay away from ebay.
It's not 10 minutes, it's 9:59 minutes.
alexkg1 thanks for saving me 10 minutes
Rob "Rabbit" Pitts. You shall be missed in the coming days. We will never forget you.
What better way to remember him than to go back to the beginning?
Love the man, no other way around it!!!
The way his voice echoed around the room, like he was meant to be!!
Rabbit runs forever on RUclips.
Best stories teller in a long time, he will be missed RIP Rob
Going to listen to all of these.
I will miss this dude's voice, his stories, his smile and Witt.
We lost this man, but we will always have these memories.
Glad I'm not alone in this today
He was a scam artist...😂
@@JamesOMalley-hb4tfhe wasn’t a scam artist, does your brain not work?
Well, if he isn’t the stereotypical used car dealer personified.
*used car dealer amplified
Such a scum bag
Sellers like Rob were so common in the day. Part of my practice in bidding was to look at a sellers history. If I saw the $.99 items in abundance pumping up the score I wouldn't bid. Ebay is more expensive today than it was in the early 2000's but it's also much better without sellers like this.
And sometimes I would look at the bid history of those odd reviews. The fakes were so easy to spot back then
Yep, proxy bidding on eBay or in a live auction is CORRUPT but, unfortunately like here, it happens all the time. I sold an Acura TL on eBay back in 2006 myself. In fact, I used to sell a LOT of stuff on eBay but like many here I quit after one buyer tried to screw me back in 2015 (I think) and eBay did everything they could to make it MY problem. I got PROOF from the delivery company that the item had been delivered and SIGNED for by someone at the address. The buyer claimed it was "stolen off his porch". eBay backed him but paypal verified the delivery and backed me. Never did business with eBay again after that
Stole an Acura TL off your porch
Pretty sure that's two separate transactions
@@randyoehlert5045 the sheer size of the porch I can only imagine
@Randy Oehlert the TL was 2006 since yall can't read. It was a different item.
@@exitmygamekid3007 2 car porchage
This guy is a great salesman but this is why I'm not in car wholesaling anymore. Car dealers see nothing wrong with almost every immoral, unethical, or illegal tactic as long as they're making money. I literally sat at the auction one sale day and listened to two car dealers talk about how much profit they've made ripping off their own mothers on car deals.
I'm no fan of salesmen of any kind - most don't have a clue about what they're selling which I consider a pretty fundamental requirement. But I have to say, buyers are often no better in terms of morality or honesty. There's apparently a saying in the car sales world - "Buyers are liars".
@@TonyRule I've never heard that term...
@@Cammmmeron The "buyers are liars" saying is due to clients giving buying signals, or even saying I want to go with this car but want to talk with my wife/husband first and then go ghost. Also when the client lies about their credit history.
@@WCARomans777 haha okay yeah now I see, at the dealership I'm at I've never heard someone use that term but it definitely fits haha I will say we all do joke about that... gotta love the "what APR will you guys give me", sir it depends on your credit and... "my credit is perfect"... credit check comes back, garbage hahaha classic or when they tie you up for hours and then play the wife card haha
@@Cammmmeron "I got to check with the F&I office" *customer blames you and says your just stalling*........ seriously, i worked in customer service for 13 years and a majority of customers are just pissed off idiots with a superiority complex... I personally like the lawyers and doctors who think having a degree makes them instantly more smarter and ,just like the scarecrow from wizard of oz, they still don't know the difference between a right triangle and an isosceles.
to the rest of the commenters
when it comes to sales, if you let them walk out the door, you lost them. most people with no credit going to buy a car are going to get a 16k car with the apr for 66 months and end up paying 36k... at the end of the day, who the fucks going to walk outside and not realize that buying a 16k car for 36k is a stupid idea.
its not that we're trying to be shady, were doing what we can, but your not giving us much to work with.
I've been on eBay for almost 20 years. Over that time, I've seen the playing field tilted strongly toward the buyer, and it's more burdensome to sell than it used to be. I suspect the reason may be people like this guy.
100% agree. When Ebay first started I would go to yard sales and buy stuff and flip it on Ebay and made decent money but then they jacked their fees up and Paypay fees went up it ate up all the profits.
I had a guy buy an item AS-IS from Canada and because USCBP damaged the item he complained to eBay and I was forced to deduct money from the sales purchase to accommodate the buyer.
I had a box loaded with the item and its carrying case and had so much crumpled up newspaper inside the box that it wasn't moving anywhere inside the box
Most, including myself, will say the opposite. I will only buy inexpensive electronic parts off eBay. Other than that, I won't play. Too hard to tell who are the bigger scammers, the sellers or eBay.
@@puffykonez I was burned selling an Xbox one in a similar fashion. Just repaired it, factory reset, tested it for about a week. Sold it, USPS damaged it, was forced to issue an entire refund. No return of product either. I was pretty green at the time, and now I know the steps to help prevent the loss, but still sucked.
K. Chris Caldwell the buyers. You can open a case up and get your money back, no questions asked. You can use the item for a month. You don’t even have to return the same item back. Hell, you can send back a brick. Ebay takes buyers side 99.9% of the time. Only a lazy idiot can get scammed on eBay.
Ebay hates him, find out how he sold dozens of cars with one simple trick
How? Watch the free video
That "simple trick" is called shill bidding, and has gotten at least two auctioneers in NJ sent to prison for fraud in the last twenty years, when done in "meatspace".
“Ebay hates him, prisons want him! Find out how you can be America’s next fugitive! But remember to save the money you “earn” for your legal defense!”
Lol *vaseline on fingertip*
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RIP Rabbit.....you are missed
This guy is a decent storyteller and i was ready to leap to his defense until he casually admitted to fraud.
-this trick- _fraud_ got me banned from ebay
so, uh, nevermind.
Used car salesman named 'Rob'? Whoa!
Yes. I just listened to his high school entrepreneur video where he admitted to lying to his teachers, the principal, the elderly lady across the street…..fascinating storyteller but a little shady on the ethics.
Right up there with ole high school diploma 😂😂😂 i cant stop laughing
Ahhh haha
5:12
I cant believe how candid this guy was about his dishonest practice. There was almost a sense of pride. How is it that people dealing in cars lose their moral compass?
greed. i had the British owner of 3 prominent Volkswagen dealers in Chicago admit to me and a mechanic he sold me a CPO car with a bad clutch and transmission. There's no shame, just greed.
chicago... full scammers
Wake up mate he is exposing how eBay is a flawed system , I suppose you missed that in your “my god how could this happen rant”
Well, basically because criminals, which Pitts IS, have no moral compass in the first place. They look at it as, "If you're stupid enough to fall for their con job, that's 'your' fault, shame on you for thinking people will be honest". That's HOW they do it, and that's WHY they do it. Pitts should be in prison, really.
Fact is, there is no actual money in cars. It's just bullshit and finance. The biggest crooks actually make and sell new cars. Look how they've convinced Americans that they need a new car every 2.5 years and should take out an average loan of $55k to get one that will be worth less than $30k before they can even put that first fart into the upholstery. The whole industry is a scam and this guy is just a bottom feeder.
That isn't a "trick", it's called shill bidding and he is lucky he didn't get prosecuted for it.
bring a trailer does it all the time
@@festungkurland9804 If you can prove it, collect your evidence and submit it to the department of justice for a complaint of wire fraud.
"You can be charged under 18 U.S. Code Section 1343 for wire fraud. Shill bidding is considered a kind of wire fraud, which is a federal offense. According to Section 1343 of 18 U.S. Code, you can get up to two decades of a prison sentence. "
@@InItForTheParking Except that the statute of limitations has expired already (5 years, 10 if it involves a financial institution)
@@Mjws2907 First of all, it depends on the state that prosecutes since it was online is therefore interstate commerce. And it would depend on what class the crime committed is considered in that state.
Second, did I say he was lucky that he isn't being prosecuted, or lucky that he wasn't...as in past tense?
Maybe read before you try to be a smart ass on a year old comment.
InItForTheParking greed greed greed. He wasn’t satisfied with the amount of cars he was selling.
So, this guy was an auction cheater AND he's proud of it??!! Gee, what a surprise...he's a car salesman.
mtnbiker014 Ain’t that true, really no exceptions for the car salesman, all unscrupulous.
Harold, that's not actually true. A few years ago, I found an honest used car salesman...and ended up with a beautiful '99 Volvo AWD. As it happens, he uses the same repair shop that I do, and takes the cars he buys at auction there, to find out what, if any, problems it has...then shows this info to prospective buyers.
My Volvo eventually died, but only because I ignored a serious problem that cropped up several years after I bought it...makes me feel really stupid.
WORMWOOD!!!!
He talks about E Bay as if they are in the wrong.
When infact all his practices were aimed at deceiveing the buying public,ie me and you.
Well done eBay I say.
A Fool With A Tool yeah ebay probably should have pursued legal action! This is straight up felony fraud, pure and simple
He is the wrong, but it's also true there are some realities of business that a strict and outdated 'feedback' system doesn't really do to protect those just trying to sell cars.
"I bought this used for $8,000 less than I would have at a certified pre-owned dealership, runs great, but I don't like the fact one of the brake lights was out when I drove it away...1 Star, will never do business again"
Kinda silly when you think about it. Doesn't justify necessarily what he did, but when you don't have a bunch of employees, and no brick and mortar location, and you're trying to make a living off a platform that does nothing to protect or promote you...sometimes you might have to fudge a few things to make a profit.
This is 100% true, dude is in the wrong, but how many people have you met in life that are total entitled assholes soon as money is involved? The customer isn't ALWAYS right. If ebay would review and protect sellers every once in a while they wouldn't be encouraging bad sellers to work the system.
nonya biz there's buyer feedback just the same as seller feedback, isn't there? To identify problem customers? And there's a difference between a customer occasionally acting "entitled" which sounds like an attitude problem and a seller consistently committing systematic wire fraud.
Not back in the mid-2000s.
The wolf of Ebay
Madern Funny!
Seriously! Same exact technique!
Madern goat
The avoid sellers of ebay, AKA scammers
"Here's how the whole system works, do not, under any circumstances, use this information"
Let me correct the title for you: "Committing felony fraud got me banned from selling on eBay for life!"
I agree. I watched this expecting a clever trick- Like buying misspelled items, etc. But he was scamming people, so happy he is banned for life
Good to know eBay does some housekeeping.
Lol everyone does that
People like this guy are why I dont take people seriously when they say "they're going for (insert a random amount) on ebay!!"
May I introduce you to Copart. Nothing has changed.
Rob is a very entertaining guy. He and his co-host interviewed me about the Cannonball record a few months ago and I have enjoyed hearing his car stories since then. He has some great ones.
Ed Bolian GOODMORNING, DAD.
Ed Bolian marry me?
He is like you with stories Ed. Could watch you guys for ever
Would you say that Rob is a shrewd negotiator?
pdavid24 😂😂😂😂😂😂
so he got banned because he isa sheister, a bid shiller, and a ripoff con man in general? he is what wrecked ebay and he is the reason that honest vendors like me stopped selling on ebay. He is also the reason that nobody should ever buy a car off ebay.
i agree a complete crook should have served jail time
Yep, I love a lot of the deals I've gotten on eBay, but most I know are afraid to use the platform still to this day because of how much fraud and scams have deflated the name of it. My father-in-law, for example, finds items he likes, makes a list, and then has me place the order for him, which is smart, that way I can check it out and make sure its legit, and I also know the rules a bit better. I mean really, eBay is now very muchso catered in the buyer's favor so I don't think the fear is really necessary, but there's always someone pulling off some scam on these platforms (even Amazon has been getting hit with tons of scam sellers lately).
Phillip Killion as a small time car parts seller on eBay, it is hard to scam someone as a seller. eBay will side with the 99.9% of the time and take their word for everything. (Not saying I’ve tried to scam, just been scammed. )
@K Dash he is?
Rip rabbit, you’re the reason i found this channel and was able to follow the things you did, you’ll be remembered by nothing less than amazing stories & memories full of joy!
"People don't trade in perfectly good cars, as a rule" - truth
Gus Kipper lol my sister had an fx45 Infiniti a couple years back and it consumed a gallon of oil every couple weeks and smoked blue like no other.I think we got 6g's of So for the trade in value
People who need a newer ride to outdo the neighbor's will sometimes bring in perfectly good cars tho, haha...
Or they just want a different car. I know rich guys who trade in their exotic cars every 4 months, so they get to try a new one, without taking a hit on a depreciation ... and they always have a new exotic car ... that never has a 2 year service issue that breaks apart and cost $20,000 to fix ....
danger450
That too. Also it's not unusual for older folk to realize their dream car is actually harsh riding and not very comfortable so they trade it in for something milder.
Gus Kipper actually we see quite a few cars come through that people just trade on a newer model tax is a major reason
Rob "bumping up" the bids on a car is called shill bidding...and its nice to see ebay getting him out..
You seem to have conveniently left out the part about shill bidding being a class D felony. Can't imagine why eBay would have an issue with that!!
He had a great thing going legitimately. And got greedy. Geez, sounds just like eBay! You deserve each other.
Victor Murat mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmo
Crooked dealers protected by eBay.
Omg. Are you jealous. I dont like ebay either. But it seems your a daydreamer that wont make a move. Just my opinion. Dont get mad.
If he probably did it today he would have been in the clear!
I used to do that to my own bids in the late 90s - early 2000s.
HOWEVER, I hate that they removed the ability to comment on feedback - I think the people on there now (last 10 years) are better than what it was before.
"If you tell me something that intrigues me, I'm gunna research the hell out of it." I'm the EXACT same way. Would really like to hear more from this guy.
I did the same thing, Power Seller and everything twice over. My work around was using my friends names, and their bank accounts, and their accounts that I had set up for them. I must of had about 55 ebay accounts at one time ... Can't bullshit a bullshitter, I will find a way LOL
I wish I was that way. I hate myself because I have zero drive or ambition, but I'm intelligent enough to recognize the fact that I'm just a lazy POS.
zack blum 😂😂
Same thing
did the IRS send your friends a little letter asking for an explanation? So you have at least 55 friends that will let you use there bank account and SS number? Do you know what the feds do with smart guys like you? You will at the very least be one of those guys dodging leans and living in a trailer in Oklahoma. Or 55 cases will get you federal jail.
But did he say “ A/C blows ice cold”?
Next time you sell a car pur "A/C blows cold ice" and see if anyone noticed, put an ice tray infront of the vents.
Just needs a shot of freon
Haha, My FIL bought a car with this exact line. Turns out the compressor was fucked, so there is no way in hell it blew anything!
@@cardiffgiant9406 blew hot air
"Scamming people got me banned from selling cars on Ebay for life" would've been a better title.
I don't know on cars I look at what this dude did as a negotiation over bids lol. The people didn't have to keep bidding on a car if it was to high for them. Is it scummy? Yeah, but thats about it.
@@pxpin89 It's wire fraud under US statue to place proxy bids on any auction.
@@pxpin89 It's irrelevant what you "look at it" as, shill bidding is fraud under US statute.
@@dunebasher1971 Not when he did it, it wasn't regulated. Also you can have shill bidders outside the US that wouldn't be affect by our laws. Have you ever been online? You know its more then the US on here right?
@@dunebasher1971 it wasnt a law until years after he was banned so your complaint is irrelevant
man his story’s will be miss forever!! RIP LEGEND
Ebay would be like Amazon today if they didn't get greedy with their fees and screw up the feedback system in the early to mid 2000's. I used to buy and sell a lot of different merchandise until they got greedy. Haven't been to eBay in years. Good story, Rob.
Yeah,they suck!
This guy could sell the devil a soul lol
Keith Ashford not on eBay, though. Lol
@Keith Ashford
The only problem is, it would probably be one of *OURS* !
I bet he already has
He could sell the devil a soul he already owns.
a kia soul maybe. but this guy doesn't have a human soul to sell, he is a car dealer
very entertaining, but bidding on your own stuff is a realy shitty practice
yeah it was banned from day 1, known as "shill bidding"...got one great car on Ebay, one pretty so so, but don't spend more than you can lose in any situation
the "trick" being, "shill bidding" and deceptive fraudulent feedback.... LOL.... he's a likable guy though.
likable guy but malice running thru the veins. i've had dozens of "friends" just like this pos. believe me, they always seem likable. he's lucky he only got booted off eBay and nobody ever came looking for him, including the Feds.
No he isn't
Its business.
Don't like it? Change it.
Aren’t all scammers lmao
Space Cadet So now being a scammer is business? Good to know.
I could listen him tell a story about anything, he has such an engaging speaking manner
Probably why he’s such a good salesman.
Definitely missed watching VINwiki for a couple of days. This video more than made up for it.Thanks guys!
Hope you had a very Merry Christmas!
I did, thanks you. I hope yours was equally as wonderful. Cheers to a new year, Mr.Bolian.
Good watch. I've had the same account for over 10 years and perfect seller feedback, product of honest hard work, not multiple accounts.
I use eBay seldomly and only for inexpensive items. Simply because I don't like doing business online. And a lot of these folks are why. Scam artists. Fraudsters. In the guise of being "good businessmen". No wonder a lot of people refer to eBay as FleaBay. Glad to year you're honest.
And not one single buyer has tried to screw you over or used the threat of negative feedback to blackmail you? And these claims of unblemished sellers accounts aren't made by ebay employees are they?😉
I've been through it all, had a few negative feedbacks initially but you do what you have to do to make it work. I sell a ton off of Ebay too.
6ettinold oh I've had my fair share of eBay blackmail, but policies have changed over the past decade. Feedback extortion is now a punishable offense. Anyone who even hints at it gets their disputes closed out in my favor, and their negative feedback pulled.
Raven Feather (loon
This guy could have sold me ice in Alaska with that smokers voice good god sir ur awesome
Mike Arredondo Sorry
Hahahahaha
Mike Arredondo why the hell do I have a smoker voice tho...
IM 14 YEARS OLD!!!!
sidehop are you from Ak? I barely see anyone from here,
Spawnpeeking Jäger Put the tobacco down
The way he said the cars he sold, is like the way that guy from joe dirt describes fireworks.
OMFG.... LOLLLLLLLLLLLL
I don't get it... someone explain please
J M A C Lmao can you share a link to that?
ruclips.net/video/suvJai5IC6c/видео.html
J M A C lol thanks bro 😁
Banned from Ebay is better than thrown in jail for the illegal stuff he was doing.
Nakian it's not illegal to open a second account and up the bid numb nuts! Learn the difference between bending corporations rules a breaking the law.
Colin Johnston. It's shill bidding which is illegal and can be considered wire fraud. Maybe you should do some research. Hell just read the comments, there's people who have cited the specific laws.
Nakian it's not fraud
@@colinjohnston8519 you do realized thats HIGHLY illegal you idiot...
@@technologyproductions-ye3px it's 100% fraud
RIP….. Race in Peace Rob . Legend 🍻
I am glad they banned you. Fake bidding ruins auctions.
I love this guy. I bet he’s full of great stories, have him on more please
We will. Thank you!
Yeah he's full of something
Sure as long as it is from a prison cell
Jordan Herwig ya, most criminals have great stories.
No one forced people to buy cars and its not like he was ripping them off.
A 9:59 minute video? What a legend!
The most underrated comment of the year.
Playback speed 1.5x makes it better
Cuba 76 He was referring to the fact that 10 min gets you AdSense revenue... But it's 9:59
Like 8 years ago when the video lenght limit was 10:59
DaRealCarlos \ d
Coming back to this video because this is how i found Rabbit. Rest in peace man. Your storytelling and stories will be sorely missed.
His voice is like tangy silk scarf that will cure athlete's foot, but will also slap your mom if she make a bad spaghetti.
Lmao
'this trick'
Dude, you were trying to scam people. You're lucky it was ebay because what you did was illegal in many states at actual auctions :-/
Still illegal, he got lucky. Ebay could have easily sued him after informing the feds/state Ebay is based in.
I’m not a car guy, but you don’t have to be to smell this guys bullshit! He is so full of shit he could fertilize the entire Southern Hemisphere.
Ryan D- hes a used car salesman.
So what you’re saying is it wasn’t illegal your brain just doesn’t work.
Short version: Banned for fraud.
RIP Rabbit..
I just wanted to come here and thank you for all of the memories, the laughs, and the good times.
We won't ever forget you brother.
I could listen to this dude recount his life story even if it was about becoming the first actuary to die of boredom and still love it. It is something to do with the cadence and the tone. Crazy good stuff! Thanks Rabbit.
It can across and pretentious and affected to me. And you can tell that he practises a lot. He's even memorised the EBay address from one, certified letter.
I'm torn between admiring his go-get-it initiative and wishing he saw some jail time. I simply don't have it in my soul to intentionally cheat people (I can honestly say in my 60 years of life I have never done so), and it makes me angry that there are those that not only make a game out of it but actually find it fun. I've times where I finally scraped together enough funds to responsibly bid on a piece of equipment badly needed only to have some Jerk use an underhanded play to deny that purchase at the last minute, when I set an upper limit that is all I can spend. You should be banned for life.
Bless ya! God loves a tryer! I kinda get the impression you might be labouring under the misapprehension the Ferderal Reserve is actually Ferderal in reality as well! The law is for the law abiding! Them that invent it also know there's a back door to it!
So you scammed people? Of course you got banned
Almost every “power seller” has done same thing on ebay.
especially chinese sellers
So true. I wish I could give you 10 likes for your comment.
doesn't make it right.
Shoutout to the Sony Cybershot - most baller camera of 2000!
yeah $600 at that time sounds like a lot for a camera
We all had them. 3 megapixel digital camera was definitely baller status.
Clint Gliford had 2 of those
My wife's still works, granted a $20 kids camera from Walmart now has higher resolution lol
Jay Dunbar higher megapixels maybe, but that doesn't mean higher picture quality since the lens matters, the sensor and all other electronics matter and more stuff.
Thanks for coming by Rob! Glad you were able to land on your feet after this setback.
Yeah thanks for coming by and telling us how you cheat people out of money! Maybe you can have MS13 on next week to talk about how they steal peoples cars and turn it in to profits?
Chauncy Prime get the fuck over yourself you piece of shit. Fuck you.
lol, don't go all wounded knee on us kemosabe
It is called shill bidding and is federally illegal so yeah...
So in nowadays Scams and lies are called Tricks - who knew ...
Just heard about Rabbit. R.I.P. Gone but not forgotten.
Rest in peace Rabbit. Some of my favorite stories on this channel were yours. I'm glad these awesome memories of yours will live on.
I was on board with this guy until his trick turned out to be a pretty scummy thing to do.
same.
Godspeed Rabbit! you will be missed for years to come.
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I worked at several different dealers managing the service dept. for13yrs. I can tell you without a doubt car salesmen /car sales is one of the most corrupt deceitful people and dealers on the planet. IDK why but it seems to be a common practice. It is shameful and you have to sell your soul to be a part of it or get out. I did honest work in the service dept. and never had to rip off customers to be successful. Our numbers were great and my techs were making good money. I still had to leave that work because of the overall corruption. I could not stay there and look at myself as a person with integrity.
That's not a trick. That's fraud. It's illegal.
Its not fraud. Its not illegal
@@KeepingitReal4it's a felony actually, shill bidding
Well now you can sell again. You paid your life sentence off. RIP Rabbit!
This guy can sell ice to penguins in Antartica.
I commented 6 years ago and I am back! Rob is a GOAT. This is where me and many others made a connection. God bless your family Rob. See you on the other side!
It's good EBay stays on top of these scammers.
R.I.P Rabbit, the Ebay Bandit, Pitts!
Comes off like an adult, modern-day Huck Finn, especially the way he tells his stories with enthusiasm and candor.
🤣🤣 tom Sawyer & Huckleberry finn right
Love it or hate it, Rabbit was a hustler who knew how to capitalize.
Now this is a good 'ol boy who can tell a story.
Sleezball shill bidder
danger450 Oh yes bidding on your own items which is illegal and against all bidding site rules is successful salesman 🙄
danger450 so you'd do something that is ILLEGAL and against ts and Cs of the site youre selling it on?
xD im not denying that if people pay over odds they're dumb. I'm saying what hes doing IS ILLEGAL and he shouldn't be bragging about it on a video...
BarbecuedPossum Sure! It's only illegal because of bullshit laws. Anyways, go fuck yourself LOL
I used to work for PayPal.
They got you from switching accounts and bidding your auctions up from the same ip address. Not rocket science
New a used car dealer that outsmart this...he was also a real estate investor that owned 22 furnished beachfront summer rental condos and would use the furnished PCs and internet connections in each condo during the fall and winter and when they weren’t rented out to push up his bids from different IP addresses. Karma got him in the end though and he died in 2012 from a pain pill overdose at the age of 38.
@Nick H
Seriously, dude? Even after he MOVED!?! I suspect it was the flash cookies eBay likes to leave behind on everyone's computers...
@Red Nexican Yeah.
Yeah, this is some kind of fraud against the buyers who relied on Ebay's rules that sellers can't bid against the buyers. Buyers likely paid extra money to this asshole because of his fraudulent acts. This guy misrepresented his auctions to gain an illegal advantage over buyers.
You know its bad when not only does the mild mannered Leonard French weigh in, but calls you an asshole too.
@Kimber 10MM that doesn't justifying scamming people you chode
@@chrismp006 Did you read what he said - he considers this guy part of the problem. EBay over corrected and now let's buyers like this jerk cheat sellers. That's why I avoid ebay.
So what you're telling me is, you could have another person who is not the seller bid and it would be legal
As a longtime eBay seller I had to come back and hear this story again! RIP Rabbit!
Well the ban has expired
Jesus christ bro💀
You’re Halarious you dumbass Crash Dummy
VinWiki: A open display of: Shady salesman practices (all of them), scam artists, all very proud of their accomplishments.
To be fair they also share how they get burned.
Well I mean they are salesmen the job description isnt to be up standing mortally righteous individual's it's to make money
MaxSantos atleast they tell you, unlike your local dealers
MrSporkdude yup the goal is to sell the car 😂 no one sells the car being 100% truthful. Literally every sales person weather it be new tech old tech new cars used cars even if they think there not screwing you there still gonna use sales tactics for you to buy the car 💁
Don’t think one guy on vinwiki is an accurate representation of vinwiki as a whole.
The rest easy soldier. You ain't got to fight anymore. Big love 🤙🙏🤙
RIP Robb. Your stories were the best
Rest in Peace brother
I like buying on Ebay, I totally support their actions. I cannot tolerate scammers that inflate biddings or feedback. I'm sorry you had to read a 605 pages book to work it out. I learned the pitfall right away, thus I have reported every single scammer I find and I'm proud of it. Next time social responsibility pays better.
Legendary stories that we'll always come back to. Rest in Peace my dude
I did the exact same thing. It's called shill bidding and it got me banned for life as well.
Boom
@William Scott Told them off for _what?_ Did they ding you for fraud, too?
Good. You really SHOULD be in prison for perpetrating fraud.
Nunya Bizness who’s at fault for buying cars without looking at them
It's not wrong to buy cars without looking at them. It's wrong to commit fraud in the selling of cars to absentees. Scammers like this are punished because they're scum who have shown that they aren't worthy to participate fully in society, not because the rest of us are jealous.
The car dealership story had me searching for this EBay fiasco
Got banned for scamming ebay. Good.
Fuck off. Thier feedback system sucks.
So he's basically one of those people that turned me off of ever buying a car on ebay. Isn't what he did considered illegal? Kind of a sleazy tactic if I say so myself..
Yes, illegal Federal law. Might as well hear stories about financial success made by bashing in windows with a brick and stealing merchandise, selling drugs, or pimping.
Ryder21 lol
yes shill bidding is fraud
Ryder21 a dishonest used car salesman? I just can't believe it.
Yes and No. If I see a car, bid, and it goes above what I want to pay...then I don't pay. If you keep bidding...your fault. Illegal? Yes, because you can create artificial demand.
"This trick got me banned for life"
Ok, so then we probably shouldn't use this trick?
Such a great story teller, R.I.P Brother
VINwiki can I suggest that you make playlists by the storyteller .. e.g if I am a new follower and want to watch All Ed's videos it would be easier to watch a play list rather than going through each video on the channel trying to find the ones u want to see .. so please sort the videos into play lists by the names of the story tellers. THanks
There is a playlist of Ed videos.
VINwiki yes but of others as well .. like Joe from Xtreme Xperience and others as well
I appreciate that. We will look into the best ways to package the videos. Great tip.
thnx Ed.. love your channel
Ditto on Ed..My GF HATES..I mean HATES anything car related, but will watch ed's videos lol..Liked the kimmy story
Watching this, it’s very hard to believe that Rabbit is no longer with us.
Can we have more of this guy instead of "when I was 16 I bought my first car you peasants cant afford" please!
gnarshread Trust fund kids are the worst
Don't hate people just because of what they were born into, Not fair.
lol, As a person with a trust fund, I can honestly say that does not apply to everyone. People born into a Trust Fund did not have a choice. And while obviously they could decline the money, no one would do that. The only reason to live on this earth is to have fun, and typically fun things can be bought with money. So instead of hating people for having the money to buy themselves fun things, you should work more to do the same thing, or buy a lottery ticket.
dedalliance1 you sound just like them
Probably because I am one.
I remember buying a phone off ebay. In the last few seconds, the seller (I suspect) jumped in with an alt account, ran the price up, and won the bid. But then he didn't pay, so I got an email informing me that the highest bidder didn't pay and asked if I wanted to buy for my most recent bid. The trouble here is my most recent bid was quite a bit higher than what I would have payed had not the price been run up. I ended up buying the phone for the higher price, but I feel cheated, so I haven't bought anything from ebay since.
I could listen to this dude talk about dusting a shelf and I'd watch the entire video.
And it would only take him 3 weeks to get to "so, we did the feather duster and, you know, just for good measure used a cloth wipe, too" part.
But would you buy a car from him? I know what my answer would be.
I love hearing about the businesses these guys get set up in their 20s. I need to find something like this to try.
P WrightisRight right? I'm 21 going for an MBA , hopefully I will have a crazy business story like this one day haha
Hopefully you will have a crazy business story that doesn't involve cheating people but you were still successful.
Go to work bud.
Literally this
I'm 18 and selling citizenship in Europe, 1500€ per customer
P WrightisRight Much harder today but good luck sincerely
Should be titled "How shilling got me banned from Ebay" and saved everyone 10 mins
Why is he telling this story like a self proclaimed genius? Literally every seller was doing this.
This guy makes me think of what Theo Von might be like if he never became a comedian.
6:35
- "Man Rob! You must be lucky!"
- "I guess so..."
Rob gives you a real run for your money, Ed, with regard to telling a great story. Nevertheless, Kimmy’s your ace up the sleeve.
Rob, I’m your Huckleberry! Do your eBay sales through me! I’ve got a feeling it’ll be the equivalent of an MBA.
We will miss ya big guy.
RIP Rob. Thank you for the wonderful stories
So Rob was the Sanford Wallace of shill bidding on eBay. I can't say I'm heartbroken that he got kicked off. I've seen plenty of shill bidding to illegitimately raise the price of an auction. A starting bid and reserve are tool to be used for a reason, even if they don't make you popular.
The other trick I see that really pisses me off is when you are about to win an auction for next to nothing and the seller prematurely ends it because of a "listing error".
As a long time seller what i find aggravating is it is not that hard for a half smart person to accomplish the same result without cheating... bragging about it just makes it that much worse. Start you item at the price you can let it go for... If no one wants it move on,simple... but the bragging ! That really piss me off. and the slack jaw morons the this it's cute... worse are the ones the take away is that eBay did something wrong ... how about opinion that the customers deserve to be ripped off.
Sean Thompson. I might even have problems with the way eBay does some things but certainly in this guys case he would still be benefiting form eBay if he had not been cheating. The excuse that he diopesn't like the way eBay does business or everyone does it are BS Everyone signs up under the same rules... he did not hurt ebay directly he hurt the people going by the rules.