Is This The ULTIMATE Fishing Kayak? Native Titan X Unboxing!
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- Опубликовано: 19 май 2024
- We JUST picked up a Native Titan X Fishing Kayak. Could this be the ultimate kayak on the market right now? We will find out in the next few months! In this video we share our initial thoughts after unboxing and getting it on the water for the first time. Will this kayak hold up to the hype?
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What do you think of the Titan X?
When I first saw it I had to have it. I went and got it and I freaking love it!
I want one so bad. Now just have to wait until I can afford one haha
TIP: remove the grips out of one side of each pedal…this way you have the option to use the grip or not depending on your footwear
That's exactly what I did. 👍
Looking forward for the full buildout. I’ve been eyeballing this as well… although I’ve already got two Unlimiteds fully rigged out. I absolutely love them, but definitely want to demo an X.
These kayak companies need to go in the other direction by making affordable kayaks better. Kinda like the new pelicans.
We would love to see both! We definitely will work on doing more budget kayak reviews!
I don't know if another direction is correct. I see the need in both. Of course, there are going to be over- the- top models, but isn't that price point that made a "lower budget" price point? Can't have a low, without a high.
I think there are already budget kayak companies doing that very thing. I'm all in on these new large expensive kayaks with a million possibilities. I'm not a fan of budget anything but to each their own.
Pelican targets cheap fast sale kayaks. You want quality you will pay for it. Native is 100% made in u.s.a not china.
@@YakSquad pelican make their kayaks in usa lol
I have the old towne 106 pdl.i have had it for 3 years. I live right on the Tennessee River and can have my kayak in the water in 10 minutes. Having said that I really want a new kayak and i like what I am seeing in this kayak. Thank you for the review.
I have the exact same one. I absolutely love it. The xi3 on the front is great.
What! I just paid off my Shoalie! Damn this thing is nice. The options are endless. I ran an xi3 motorguide in the front for to years, just went to stern mount, and I will not go back to bow mounted. Spot lock was crazy with xi3, 55lbs of thrust when the "gps" wants to stay still = your yak going 5ft sideways instantly, BE READY! In the end, i disconnected the "gps" and decided to go with stern. Pedal steered with transom mount has been a game changer for me! Even standing up fishing! If ya want to, just like a "Home Improvement" episode. You should attach 3 xi3's, no wait, 4 xi3's! Now I'm just getting carried away. Thanks, guys, for another awesome video and a debit on my account for another yak.
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I'm happy to finally see you out in the water on a kayak
😂 so are we, but weve have posted like 10 other on the water vids already this year, this ain’t the first and won’t be the last
Huge Greg Blanchard fan! 😎👍🏻
Great rig and a sexy colour! I have the identical kayak and am extremely happy with it so far. It is definitely a huge and heavy boat but the stability is so good that tipping over is something you will likely never worry about again. The only problem I have found is that the amount of storage space allows you to bring a ridiculous amount of gear which makes it even heavier. It’s a gear junkies dream…and a portagers nightmare
I’ve always been concerned about breaking a prop blade with those style propulsion units. Especially after Hobie came out with the “flip fins” (which is what prompted me to go with my Outback) ❣️❣️ The one thing I also noticed was that these Titan’s are a lot heavier than most other kayaks n their range. I am a smaller person and can’t handle a Titan X 10,5 or 12.5❗️ But their heavier manufacture speaks to the durability of the Kayak, I hear they are much more dense than mid other kayaks out there which is good for durability purposes (no cracked hulls from scupper wheels, seats or adding sidekick wheels) ! The one other detraction from this kayak is that when loading or unloading from the bed of my truck I could damage the rudder while resting it on the keel before getting it up on the bed of my truck. Using a trailer would be recommended for this kayak.
I load and unload mine easily from the truck. Back down the ramp, use a truck bed extender, prop the bow on the extender, hop in the truck bed and just pull it up. Pretty low effort for how heavy the hull is. I just empty everything but the drive.
DUDE! that yack is awesome! I am going to have to swindle my wife to get me this for Fathers Day this year!
I also have a new Titan X12.5. I had issues with the power plate at the bow when rigging my Xi3. I used a setup similar to my previous SS127 with a cord run through the hull and attached to the pedal to release the motor. My power plug was just too close to the pedal for it to engage correctly so I ended up running the plug on the hatch lid. You might mock that all up really good before you drill holes like I did. Funny thing is the Native Video, Jordan Lee’s video, and the Untamed Outdoor guys dont actually show how it all works after the motor is mounted on the bow and plugged in. There is a flat plug that Minnkota makes that might make that all work best, but my MarineCo, and alternate amazon plug are too big.
I have it set up on mine and will show in our video
Great video great looking kayak it's just alot more than alot of people can afford but I understand why it is so high because you have some many ways upgrade it
Another guy I watch is Adam from Str8 Yak'd youtube channel he did a review of his new one also and they look amazing!!
I’ve had the slayer max 10 for 2 seasons and never used the lock right behind the pedals. If you had something under water, it can pop up without that clip engaged. Have the 10.5 Titan X but haven’t had on the water yet. Can’t wait to see what you guys do with yours.
I learned that lesson quick 😂
Looks like a very slick setup. I’ve been looking at the pelican power catch 100 since it came out just because of the motor mount. I have a extra minnkota just sitting in the garage
What are you waiting for? Fishing is calling😊 I'm not personally a Pelican fan, but, if that's your jam. Then, hell yeah! I am as skinny as a bean pole, which works in certain occasions. But, all my buddies are 220-250lbs+ and 6ft+. The Pelican catch mode 110 was an option for them. We as a group not only incorporate fishing, but also camping. So "dry storage" is a must for us. Definitely check weight limits for kayaks, any brand that doesn't easily and readily convey their weight limit, I would be skeptical. Your adding a lot of weight and problems, just be sure you can handle them, no disrespect.
@@christophershoe9642 I already own a 10’ pond prowler that I use on the main lake in my town. It would only be for this certain ponds that only allow kayaks and belly floats. Weight is not a issue since I’m 190# and run a lithium battery, the kayak is rated for 4-500# and I don’t take very much gear to those ponds
When woody and mike hook talked to me at a.c.k and asked me about the problems with the first gen. They told me they were going to redo the boat. I see they listend to me especially the seat lol. Ohhh crank those arms down really hard . Glad they listen to me and it turned out great.
lol. I had the same lose pedal problem the first trip out
You have to over crank the heck out of them
Dawn ... sadly you guys didn't any promoto code from Native to people wish to purchase one; I thinking about looking into one though
We don’t have one because we aren’t sponsored. Id still check it out!
Please do a transport video from garage to water. Do you have a trailer? What cart are you using? Boondox wheels? What's your system to get the Titanic in the water? lol!
Currently amazon wheels. Im waiting for native to restock the side kick wheels
Hmm pretty interesting that ur seat swivels into ur cup in the cup holder. Mines doesn’t. Maybe it’s the bottle I’m using, a 40oz hydro flask.
How? I have a 40 oz as well. Hmmmm
Vibram 5 Fingers I swear we’re made for Kayaking Lol I have a Pair and love those things and Jesus they are comfortable. Yes I’ll remain a Bank Fishing Guy but do like the Kayaking Videos Guys and stay safe on the Water….
Sacrificial rigging plates should be standard on anything $2500+ it’s a great idea. Forward facing rod holder on the left side is probably my only gripe with my sportsman pdl 120
100% agree on the rod holder on the old town
Ya not tightening down the pedals can damage them. so make sure you get them pretty much as tight as you can get them. don't stop tightening them until you can't turn the wrench any further. There is a torque spec but it's close to the most you can do with the supplied hex wrench.
Yeah I bent the hex wrench... is that tight enough lol
@@aaanglers lol, probably
How close should you sit to the pedals? Just got a new Titan 10.5 recently and I’m not sure if I’ve found the right spot.
Depends on preference. I use bike standards. Your legs should have a slight bend at the end of your pedal rotation
hey quick question, looking to get into a fishing kayak, been awhile but looking to stay paddle, maybe rig a troll motor on, but i’m fishing anywhere from small creeks to Lake st clair in michigan, what would be a good starting option or base size to look at? No trailer option available, would be on top of a chevy malibu aswell, there are so many options in getting lost, i’d appreciate any help!! (Would like to stand when able to and still be stable)
You will likely need a transom mount trolling motor if you get the right kayak. You can remove newport nk motors to load them too. NK 18 Pro is pretty sweet, and we have a code for 10% off: AAA10
There aren’t many that are that light, standable, paddleable, car top load and less than 12’. Bonafide SS127 or the RVR119 may be your best option.
Which drive is more efficient? I ended up with a 106 pdl over the max 10, but never tested that one.
It’s debatable. I think they neck and neck
As always thanks for the video guys. Now that you have titan x series in the house and the OT 106PDL, how do they compare head to head-stability, performance, "rigability", fishability, construction quality, value? If you were to keep in line with similar length kayaks, which would you choose--Titan X 10.5 or OT 106PDL and why? Keep the great videos coming.
We think they are 2 different kayaks for 2 different anglers. Do you want to LOAD up or have a pond hopper? The Titan X is heavier and has more rigging options for sure. The 106 is great all around as is. But you can add simple things to it.
@@aaanglers thanks Guys, another question from your reply, which boat would you choose if you want to keep load light, not tons of gear but want stern mount motor to get from point A to B to cover distance quickly to each fishing spot. Having spot lock Not an absolute necessity and I would want superior stability
@ADKMuskyFoolonFly63 nucanoe unlimited
9:35..... that was the thing I disliked most about hobie drive systems is that you couldn't just reverse your stroke and go backward. Being able to instantly stop or reverse yourself is such a nice ability
"No one can afford that! You're a jerk!" REAL lol
Because I trust your judgment, which would you recommend the nk 300 or the 180pro for the titan x 12.5? Also if you can recommend a battery
I would go with the NK 300 and their 36v battery. Keep on eye on their website as they have sales on them throughout the year. :)
Nk300 is the way to go for its size
Our Discount on Newport is AAA10
From watching gregs videos for a couple years now all I can say is that a phone harness or waterproof case is necessary with how incredibly wet the deck is, otherwise it’s a pretty amazing boat. Why didn’t you end up going with a PA 180?
Couldn’t find one cheap enough used. Opted to go this route. It definitely gets wet. Im trying a hack for that this week!
Your weight keeps a wet deck?😂 I'm sry, I mean your scupper plugs aren't in?
Might be a next year thing might be a never thing. So when is your order for the NK 300 landing that you orderd after this video was made ? :D :D
I would order it few days later if i am thinking on it like this for sure :D
Never ordered one. Got an xi3 on it.
@@aaanglersthat’s the better choice imo. Spot lock with a 360 swivel seat is a game changer.
I know this is random but is there anyway you guys would be able to review googan rods ?
We have in the past. Won’t buy them again
@@aaanglers are they trash 😂😂😂
want!
Why you got a black seat ans i got a grey one ? I got a Titan x 10,5 green
no idea what determines which seat you get
In some ways, the Titan X is the ultimate fishing kayak - although the swivel seat needs the ability to lock itself going forward. It has some downsides though. It's heavy, has a rather limited weight capacity at 500lbs counting the hull and drive (per Native), it's fairly wet and it's slow (it is competitive among kayaks that go for stability over speed though). But it gives you a ton of space and stability to work with. Personally, I think if I was going to add a motor and weighed a little bit less, the Titan X would beat out the Pro Angler in terms of loadout.
I personally like my Old Town Bigwater. Space is a little more limited, although I do manage to carry all the tackle I need and 5 rods with just my Blackpak pro (8 if I can find some raised feet for it). But the weight is much more manageable and it's super fast, instead of working to do a mile at < 3mph, I work to do a mile a 4.5mph.
I have a big water as well! Big fan!
I mean If you haven't been in one your assessment is kinda off. I pedal at close to 3.5 with ease. I weight 320 have an xi3, garmin and a black pack with 5 rods. The inside of my titan x never has water with scuppers in. Only time I get water is what I bring in from getting in or from a fish. Mine sits in the water just about the same as it was stock now that its fully loaded. Im sure it wouldnt be as good if the scuppers were out 😂. As for the seat its a fairly tight swivel doesnt move much like say a desk chair. When I pedal I dont even notice it. Your right about it being heavy though it's not fun to load and unload but the sidekick helps
@@JupiterBassin sorry, but my assessment is spot on. Most people do 2.5 - 3mph over longer distances. I don't think I could go a mile across the lake at 3 or faster, at least if I have to go back and fish another few hours after that. I mean I can get it well above 4, but that's tiring real fast.
And again, you need scupper plugs because it's wet without them. Technically you weight and the boat's weight is around the maximum weight capacity per Native, probably because of the water that gets in. Also those who weigh much less than we do get soaked even with scupper plugs fishing offshore or in rough conditions. It wouldn't be a deal breaker for me, living 3 hours from the ocean with no traffic, but disappointing - considering it's size, I would expect a higher weight capacity, although that might mean you only pedal it 1.5mph too, it does pretty well for its size.
And for the seat, that doesn't really make or break the boat but literally every Titan X owner has said the ability to lock the seat going forward would be the first improvement they'd make after fixing the water issue. It's just a step closer to perfect.
I'm not shitting on the Titan X by any means, but it has it's pros and cons for sure but does a lot of stuff right. Another con I didn't mention is due to the width, I likely couldn't fit 2 kayaks on my trailer.
@@shred5 I could care less if you trash the titan x it's your personal preference but Im just saying your assessment is wrong. My point is if you dont own one or been in one dont act like you know what your talking about. lol
@@JupiterBassin Again, my assessment is not wrong. I don't own one. I have demo'd almost every kayak on the market that roughly meets my weight capacity though. I also know a lot of people with them, and their experiences as well as my own are all different than yours which makes me question the honesty of your assessment, as well as claiming I haven't been in one, aka your bias is showing pretty strong right now.
Id love one of the 10ft versions but its a tad outta my price range.
Remove the pedal studs, and just put some skateboard grip tape on them. You will not regret it.
Smart
nothing like fish drippings and pond water to add that extra flavor to your drink...
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Dang this looks a lot like the Bonafide P127 😂 I'd imagine this kayak would be amazing for freshwater and absolutely horrible for saltwater 😂
I can't see why it would be terrible for salt, with how many people use the Hobie Pro Angler in salt. Also Native and Bonafide are under the same company so there will be similarities. But we've used both and this has STARK differences once you get in it and use it.
@@aaanglers well that makes sense then. And it would be terrible for salt for the same reason the Bonafide is terrible for salt. It would be fine on the rare days when the water is completely flat, but the hulls are made to be stable on the water rather than cut through the waves, so they go all over the place. There are videos of people trying to launch a bonafide from the beach and it flips vertically! I thought about buying one until I saw that... It seems really great for some applications, just not others.
That makes sense. We are no where near the ocean, so we never really consider it. I see a lot of guys in Hobie Outbacks on the salt water which is around the same price point.
@@aaanglers the Hobies are great for cutting through the waves, and the Old Towns are also really great for it, especially the salty. Bonafide, from what I've seen, makes an extremely stable kayak, it just comes at a cost to versatility. Similar to Bay Boats/Bass Boats vs Offshore Boats.
people complaining about the price, remember it's almost half as much as a top of the line hobie.
More expensive? Yes. ~Half as much? Nah. Not for a comparable kayak.
Titan X 12.5 $3,599
Hobie PA 12 $4,599
@RealCamSmith $1000 isn’t nothing though! And it’s instant reverse as opposed to 180 drive. I think Justin was thinking 360 drive at $5699, but they aren’t directly comparable
@@aaanglers Agreed! More is more regardless lol. But a 360 is in a different stratosphere lol, in terms of price point.
Looks awesome, but about 3x my budget.
Definitely not the budget option… we are looking into budget builds too
I tried to watch the whole video but multiple narrators were too much...camera dude is too much for me.....but I'm weird like that, it's a me problem.
Nice yak. I decided against it after i testet it for a week. Why? It's so damn fckn heavy. Way too much- sorry. If you have to be flexible and have no waters to slip easy you're screwd. Otherwise- it's stable
Your not wrong
$3600 for a molded plastic and a paddle ? This cost them no more than a $500
pelican getaway is all you need
The titan is a barge not a kayak. You must have a trailer and can only use it in lakes and rivers.
Well that’s where I use it and I launch it from the truck bed pretty easy.
To heavy..its more like a Boat not a kajak anymore
Only $1,000,000
It’s a few dollars less than that
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I know you said you get it but... still overpriced... ha ha ah. sure you can buy a boat but the issue is that I want a kayak both for it being easier to store and lug around but also because it is actually cheaper than a boat. $3500 is an insane markup for a $100 plastic shell and $300 of hardware... ugh. Until American Kayak makers can return to realistic (read real) prices, they are all just a sad joke.
Yep, its the ultimate lake boat. After that, it prolly sucks at everything else. just sayin.
It has it's place, like on a lake
Yeah, but thats what I want it for. Most kayaks are good on lake OR river, not usually both. That we have yet to see
Cant even have hobbies anymore without spending 10 grand.
Too true