COMPETITION NOT CONTROVERSY! - Kimberley on Steelers QB BATTLE between Fields & Wilson | First Take
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- Опубликовано: 26 мар 2024
- On First Take, Kimberley Martin, Ryan Clark and Chris "Mad Dog" Russo join Molly Qerim to discuss if Justin Fields can beat out Russell Wilson for the starting QB spot in Pittsburgh.
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Repeating the same topic is not journalism
Talk shows aren't trying to be journalism...
@@Touji127 Tell me about it.
This isn't a journalistic television show, so there is no need for journalism, and it would be ridiculous for someone to have an expectation for journalism on this debate style tv show.
That’s all espn does is talk about the same topics
True, but yet you're still watching. Don't watch then
They are literally trying to create a controversy when there isn’t one😂😂😂😂
Took the words out of my mouth
Fr it’s hilarious
This is how the controversy actually happens. They literally just keep saying it until it happens, sonthey can say "See, told you".
Russell Wilson beat mahomes and Allen while he was in Denver last season 🤣🤣🤣
Former MVP Russell Wilson? Wilson has literally never received an MVP vote.
Did you mean former Super Bowl champion?
Yeah she botched that 😂
She needs 2 go.
He’s been closer to winning the MVP without winning it more times over the last 12 seasons than any QB, which also goes undiscussed by almost everyone outside of Max Kellerman, Bill Belichick, and Mike Tomlinson.
Russ has literally been a top-5 MVP candidate every year since his second year in the league. No other player did that 2012-2020.
In 2021, he was injured, and 2022-2023, he played for a garbage organization.
@@DeCurtaRican I’m sorry but I have to disagree. I love Russ, greatest QB in Seahawks history but you can’t claim he’s been close to winning an MVP when he’s never received a single MVP vote. It’s not like he missed out by a vote or 2. He’s never been voted for at all.
@DeCurtaRican you gotta think. How can he be in the top 5 when never receiving a single vote?
Take Ryan out of this conversation and you have nothing.
it feels like we've been talking about the same thing for 3 weeks...
We have…
Well if you used common sense, you’d understand that the reason why this topic is brought up often is because it’s obviously getting good ratings and viewers everytime
Ong😂
This story will be milked by the media until the season begins.
Does anyone else just mute the TV when she starts talking..?
Right here. This guy does.
Nope. I mute it when that old guy does.
yall really beatin this dead horse
It’s the same convos every week. I miss the days of sports center when they showed the sports that happened that day and current events of that day
Yall are beating that same horse by watching and commenting
Former MVP? HUH?
Chris Russo is so delusional this man forgot the Steelers got to the playoffs with a 28th ranked offense?!
when they first asked Justin which Qbs he modeled his game after and he said Cam Newton when he was younger but as he got older he started molding his game after Russ Wilson. Justin is excited to learn from one of his role models.
Russell Wilson threw 10 more touchdown passes than Fields last year
You are correct
Notable, but no reason to hand him the top spot automatically. What IS a great reason is that Russ is still the dude he was and will prove it.
Ryan Clark sounds crazy!
People don’t realize we’ve been competing in that division with shitty QB play. Adding decent to good QB play as well as adding Pat Queen… we should do just fine
I applaud them showing and proving, that they want to win NOW. Thats a beautiful sight to see.
Haven’t seen this much media about the Steelers in years
"a lot of meat left on that bone" haha
He was never developed in Chicago
Like why are y'all just using these sound bites to push Fields so stop let Russell Wilson playing omg if fields was so good someone would have traded for him way before Steelers did remember teams had opportunities they did not jump to trade that's why he went for a 6 rounder he has lots to learn from Russ
These people really think fields can play 😂
@@dnice33it makes no sense to me, what about the last 3 years shows fields can play. He’s been awful 😂
@@joshuahodge8804probably the fact he’s gotten better every year on shitty teams
@@garywhite2599 he hasn’t gotten better though, his QBR dropped last year, his passer rating was almost the exact same and his completion percentage improved 1% lol
I know my friends that's why we have to ignore clowns like ESPN and good morning! etc!!! football because they know nothing we know they're hate continues.
It's time to change the subject
Gah dam Molly look fine asf😍
The narrative around Russ is not his reality. He’s much better than Fields
[2:37] Not GOOD ENOUGH… Realistically, Wilson has been statistically sound his entire career including the last three seasons. Granted, his last season in Seattle was his first losing season. His first season in Denver was the worst losing record of his career, with a nascent coach. His last season in Denver, is far from being a complete failure…
Now, I am NO Seahawks fan, so I don’t have familiarity with why that season went the way it did. However, in Denver, blaming Wilson for the chaos that was that first season is NOT solely on the shoulders of Wilson. It is entirely disingenuous to even suggest it.
His second season in DENVER, was shear POLITICS. A new coach wanted to stamp his authority, and mark his territory like a dog in a new home… Denver could have finished the season with a winning record. Wilson could have won the last TWO games, but was benched. It would have not only padded is stats, but also given him, the team, and the organization a winning season, though missing the playoffs…
Last season, the BRONCOS were within a touchdown or less of winning any game they lost, save for the Dolphins, Lions, and maybe the Jets game. Mostly, defensive failures if people are being honest. Wilson was at the helm of TWO different offensive strategies both seasons in Denver, not as simple as people make it out to be. Handled the second one better than he is credited for, especially since he threw more touchdowns than the league MVP, and matched his total scoring output. Plus defeated the eventual Super Bowl champions by the most points they had ever lost by in the regular season…
NOT GOOD ENOUGH his @$$…
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How many Broncos games did you watch?
It's also disingenuous to not acknowledge how awful Wilson played with how much cap he ate up.
"Mostly defensive failures if people are being honest"
They went on a winning g streak when the defense was creating 3+ turnovers a game. When those stopped, the wins stopped. Anyone watching the games knows their biggest issue was the lack of consistency in the offense moving the ball. Anyone watching could see how long Wilson would hold the ball andrun from clean pockets. He lead the league in passes under 5 yards and passes behind the line of scrimmage.
Fields needs to learn from the Sideline 1st yr in Pittsburgh!!! Take the Packers approach. MEDIA IS ALWAYS PUTTING OUT FALSE NARRATIVES!!!!
Tomlin has laid it out and it is clear and simple. Wilson is there to start and Fields is there to learn. End of story.
Y’all on drugs today Russell about to T-up Fields got next I think Russ plays into a Two deal
Find it funny soo much hype for field😂 we seen him play in 2 years he is not better than Wilson regardless of his age imao😂 field is mobil yes! But not consistent
He really isn’t. The media is pushing this despite the fact that they have spent 3 years in questioning Fields as a QB. They haven’t said this many good things about Fields in 3 years. All of a sudden Fields it’s the chosen one
Perfect example of , who's the best of a bad situation!!
Ima Steelers fan , and this Russ vs Fields talk getting out of hand lmao. Russ already named starter . Maybe Fields takes over down the rd . But rn it’s clear it’s Russ .
“Former MVP?” In ten years in Seattle Russell didn’t get ONE MVP vote, let alone WIN the MVP.
It was literally one of the things that irked Wilson so bad, he forced Seattle to let him “cook”, exposing his holes as a passer, ultimately leading to his ouster from Seattle.
When he didn't audible in sb I knew he was carried by the defense let BEASTMODE cook
He’s perfect for the Steelers. Doesn’t have to carry the team just need to make a play or two.
when they let him cook he was setting records thru the first 10 games lmao he had like 35 tds in that stretch and the team was 8-2 in 2020, his best year.
@@send6pray until they figured out his holes w/o a strong running game & inability to see the middle of the field, something he didn’t overcome in Denver.
He will be productive again now his ego has been challenged & forced to accept he’s no Tom Brady or Aaron Rodgers, and needs the other parts of the team to succeed.
He’d still be in Seattle if someone didn’t convince him HE was what won in Seattle and should be allowed to throw 35+ passes a game…
Yeah, that narrative is wrong. Russ didn’t force them to let him go sh!t. Pete let Brian Schottenheimer run a more explosive offense because it was the only way the Seahawks could win. The defense was pure garbage in 2020, the only season Russ ever had significant pass attempts, and Russ responded by breaking multiple personal highs, going on a tear that had him on pace to throw for 7,000 yards and 60 TDs (in 16 games, not 17), and leading the Seahawks to a 12-4 record and their first division title since 2014, the latter of which should also be credited to Russ.
Quit parroting the narratives of talking heads who don’t know what the f*ck they’re talking about!
As a Steelers fan i hope Justin Fields turns into this generations Jerome Bettis as far as trades goes. I want Fields to turn into a hall of fame QB and win 🏆🏆🏆 with the Steelers.
I'd rather have Fields shine bright because he's younger with more upside and hopes he reaches his full talent level with the Steelers
Talk about a scratched record.
Molly😍😍Jeez😏
9-8 is so disrespectful
Alotta you guys like to say “Justin fields Can’t do this, he can’t do that”!…for someone who you guys say can’t play, ya sure do talk about him alot on these sports shows🤔!…
Why don’t these sports shows speak about any of these other backup quarterbacks?🤔!…
Speak about Sam Howell or something..Gardner Minshew..Mac Jones..speak about them….why Justin fields? If he’s as bad like ya say he is?👀🤔!..
I want to see Justin Fields be awesome in Pittsburgh just to have another reason to laugh at the Bears
If it wasn’t for Ryan i wouldn’t watch any ESPN shows other than sports truly!
Funny to me that Mad Dog says something to the effect that Russell cant beat the Chiefs, the Bills, Jets, and Cincinnati. Does he know those are some of teams Russell beat last year?
The celling is high for Fields but only if he can solve his turnover issues.
That's most QBs you clown 🤡
That was a result of 0 help
i cant wait for Pit to prove these idiots wrong.
Justin Fields is just potential. He is more talented than Russell Wilson, but the locker room is going to prefer a veteran who is a far better QB.
He’s not even more talented than Russ. What does he do better than Russ besides MAYBE run faster upfield?
NOTHING!
The locker room will prefer who helps them win. And idk why, but a lot of those settle guys didn't like russ. Obviously we don't have an inside look on the why, but if he struggles at all the locker room can sway.
That’s the problem with espn. It’s a good situation for everyone, there’s no rush. And y’all being petty making up drama every day , in March 😂
JF1 LFG 🔥
So if Pitt doesn't pick-up his 5th year option of 25.7 million, he's technically a free agent. What would stop another bidder from coming in and out bidding the Steelers for a new contract.
Fields#1🎉
Im so glad Fields isnt on the bears anymore cuz now everyone can see how loud and crazy fields fans are 😂😂😂
Wilson is qb1 for now fields needs to learn behind Wilson with fields he’s the guy for the future there will be a competition but Russ is the guy unless he gets hurt which is possible with his age fields could have opportunity but for now he needs to learn like Jordan love situation had done in green bay
Why do they have Justin Fields No. 5?
Lavar ball did say his sons would be top five picks period and based on what we're saying he was wrong
Russel Wilson is a made guy 🧐
Forget about it
JF is a potential mega star. Let's stop acting like Justin Fields was the problem in Chicago. People want to boil football down to absolutes, when its the ultimate team game. He played on a bad that reset the roster. Ryan Poles acknowledged as much. He was never supposed to survive that rebuild. But he kept showing flashes of potential stardom. If Justin Fields was not on the Bears for the last three years then it would have been a bad team that no one paid attn to.
Steelers are really gonna have a bad time this season. Love it
Talking heads just talk, void of facts and chock full o’feelings…”Tomlin gets a lot from a little”! WHAT?! 🤦🏻♂️
He was sitting on one of the most talented rosters for years and didn’t win a single playoff game! He won with Cowher’s leftovers…he still has a lot to prove in terms of Championships!
He won 09-10 Super Bowl too and that wasn’t cowher leftovers. And went to another Super Bowl in 12-13 season as well. People see tomlin hasn’t been successful in 7 years without a playoff win but forget it’s A LOT of coaches who didn’t win anything in todays day of age let alone get there….
lol most talented rosters for years? What years?
2 most sacked QBs in the NFL 😂
You all enjoying hearing the same segment day after day? CUZ I KNOW I SURE DO!
Dude had 26 tds 8 int with a bs Denver team and yall act like he can’t play
Pretty sure dude said Russ was the starter
My Dynasty League hinges on Justin Fields starting....Rodgers already f'd me last year -_-
yall dont think russell wilson can beat out burrow and lamar and watson but we beat them with trubisky and rudolph and pickett smh and you all are supposed to be professionals ha
"Former MVP Russell Wilson?!" He's never even received a single vote for MVP let alone won it.
You’re actually like he wasn’t a top 5 qb for like 7 years 💀
@@joshuahodge8804
Top 5 and MVP are nowhere near equivalent.
The Cleveland Browns finished Top 5 in the AFC last season. Would you refer to them as defending AFC champs?
@@KLeeMr how is that even a comparison 😂😂 are you a moron?
Hope fields is answer pulling for him !
Russell Wilson had MORE TOUCHDOWN PASSES THAN LAMAR JACKSON LAST YEAR IN FEWER GAMES!!! these guys are haters and we see what you are trying, (and failing) to do. All of them are beyond pathetic
When was Russ a mvp?
Kimberley bad af
Kimberly gets way too much camera time. She repeats other people stance and always goes over board
How the fk is this journalism
It's not. Grow up. This show has been on for over a decade.
@@Touji127 And you're the moronic people that think this stuff is okay.
Fields 100% should be starting in my opinion! Few have the skillset he does! He can throw the deep ball and is the most elusive QB in the NFL! Chicago failed him but still showed tremendous growth and potential! He needs to be given the opportunity now that he is in a good stable situation!
What evidence do you have of this? Not saying isn’t true. But what evidence do you have?
He can throw deep but is not accurate. Russ can throw deep with accuracy.
When did Russell Wilson win MVP?
Russ is a better QB right now...he will be better for the 2024 season
Evidently senseless lip flapping brings home the cheddar? All this nonsense over these 2 QBs. Steelers are clearly building serious run threat centric with heavy basic flat/stick/slant/cross easy quick reads for either, but Russ certainly has advantage there. Occasional legitimate deep threat is a different animal than built around top 5 deep threat and Steelers are the former. Who in their right mind would do otherwise with TWO new QBs? As long as Russ plays well he is the starter this year no matter how much nonsense these people spout. I like Fields and he could well be long term great, but use your brains people.
wilson will start game 1 but fields will finish da season
Can't wait to see what Mike Tomlin does with Justin Fields. Watch out NFL. Watch out.... It's coming and not one of you can see it....
Russell Wilson is not a former MVP.
Beating a dead horse = 🗑️ content
If by some sort of miracle JF is the starting QB, Kyle Allen will be his b/u, because the Steelers will have reneged on their assurance to RW that he would be the starter. The salary means nothing to Russ because he is a very wealthy man, and is sticking it to the Broncos for his $39 million guarantee, whether he plays or not. He will simple demand to be released, go home to his family and wait for the first call he gets from a team, desperate for a QB. Thomlin knows his job is on the line and he is not stupid enough to bet his job on someone who has never shown that he could give the Steelers more than another mediocre season.
FIND OTHER TOPICS TO DEBATE BESIDES FIELDS. ESPN makes 2 videos a day repeating the same story
Former MVP..?
Russ is the dude, and he’s going to stay the dude until he retires.
5:35 Fields ran for 1,376 yards last year, that’s more than Lamar Jackson & we do have that QB with Fields now & dude is wrong, Fields very much can beat them all out trust me. With Fields & our defense
facts fields didnt have no help with the bears other than dj
Does Kimberly actually watch football games ? ☠️
She covers a number of different teams and interacts with the players, coaches, and management during the season.
@@shawnvogt888 espn account
Y'all need to quit talking like this kid is better than Russ. Russ's worst year is still better than the kid's best year.
these guys are lame how can u say the quarterback was the biggest weakness but in the same breath say we upgraded the quarterback but we still going 9-8? what’s the logic there
MVP ??? Russ ain’t got one of those .
Former mvp??? Hahahahahaha what?
Get Kimberly off the air ways
Mr white guy sounded like a steeler hater much
He's a bargain basement Skip Worthless.
Fields was a better high school prospect and a better college prospect than Wilson, he has more natural talent he's just never had the kind of coaching Wilson had
Heard the same thing about Trubiski. Wilson is way better than fields. Fields can run and throw but cannot read defenses. Both QB's have a losing record the last couple years. Hopefully they turn it around. Rudolph will be starting before long in Tennesse and will become one of the best in nfl. Pittsburgh drops the ball again. Tomlin will go 500 again and will be praised for never having a losing season.
This is a waste of a segment. There’s no QB controversy in Pittsburgh. I mean come on anybody with brain cells and eyes knows Russ should start who’s a SB champion and a HOF QB. Fields sucks
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I used to love rc but lately he’s literally been a hypocrite and been contradicting himself and I even have proof and this women just spits out what she feels and doesn’t know actual stats and literally is a fool
The awe on Kimberly’s face when she listens to a white man talking
Please get Kimberly off of here
Russ is washed and fields is mediocre at best
Steelers fans don’t like black quarterbacks..just stating the obvious!
Another woman that commentates on nothing she’s talking about smh
She’s so annoying