Belichick-Brady relationship explored in new documentary, what's remarkable about Chiefs | THE HERD
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- Опубликовано: 21 сен 2024
- Julian Edelman joins Colin Cowherd on The Herd to share his thoughts on the Kansas City Chiefs, and whether he believes they have what it takes to run it back again next season to win their third-straight Super Bowl. He also talks an upcoming documentary covering the New England Patriots and what it may reveal about the end of the Bill Belichick - Tom Brady relationship.
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This “Uncle Colin” thing is strange and sus.
I could listen to Bubs all day...his dad was truly a psycho
Anything with Edelman is Gold
That is very anti-Semitic of you, because he is a Joo?
Edelman, is a warrior. He had that fire and passion. Big play maker, when we needed it!! 🏆🏈💯
I met him for a few minutes during SB53, because my wife and I paid for the opportunity to ride plane with players. Edelman, Brady, Gronk and Slater are genuine guys.
Didn't like New Patriots liked them in the 80s Steve Grogan Andre Tippet but no denying that man's greatness
Great
One of Edelmans best interviews. Getting in the zone
he's kind of a slow speaker, takes awhile for him to get a thought out, and he says very little that's actually interesting outside of some behind the scenes Brady/Belichick tidbits....... compared to guys like Sanchez and James Jones etc, Edelman is probably the worst "former player/new analyst" going around right now
@@mattcarberry368bullcrap comment from you 🤡✌️
@@mattcarberry368 yeah, sorry, I couldn't disagree more.
Julian Edelman will forever remember thats catch in the Falcons superbowl legendary
I like the way Jules needled Colin about ghosting him on the podcast. Cowherd really should do Julian that solid.
Colin has that big desk syndrome!😅
Tom Brady has showcased exceptional skills adapting to a defensive-minded coaching approach, setting him apart from other quarterbacks who may have experienced different coaching styles.
Jules trying to be respectful to all involved. Respectful to bill for drafting him and Tom for being the person to put him in winning situations
Sure, he spent his entire career playing for the pats, they were extremely successful and he was one of the main guys for the great qb. I don't see why he wouldn't be respectful.
This was a one of a kind era that probably will not happen again in football. A coach, quarter back & team accomplishment, that will probably never repeat itself in our life time! New England Patriots - Thank You the Performance!!!
Edelman is all class
What a perfect answer to the Kelce situation; kids.. don’t do it… everyone else.. when you’re that kind of top performer at your job you get to get away with certain things. Fact of life, in the most loving way; get over it.
Context is everything
Edelman is definitely in my top 5 for media personalities going today. He tells the most interesting stories. Anytime I see a Jules interview, I’m never disappointed.
Edelman, Hogan, Amendola. 2 undrafted guys and 7th round QB who had to learn to play WR.
Hogan was also a lacrosse player too
and they're all white
@@alexmartin628who cares NFL is 75% black there needs to be more white players anyways 🤡✌️
at 3:22 ..... "battle people" ..... LOL
the battle community
I knew I would find this haha
🤣🤣🤣 came here to say this
This was a great experience watching this brought back a lot of memories and also made me appreciate the men (players that much more )
Edelman was too good here.
Given who's show he is on that is an easy task.....
How do we compare the two? Just RUclips the Hits Brady took from Defenders for 15+ years! Mahomes has not played Old NFL Tackle football since Body Slamming was outlawed in 2018 when Mahomes first showed up. The Brady Bucs were the closest Mahomes will ever come to Tackle Football and he got crushed in the SB. Rules have changed too much since then to compare them!
I agree. Players should be compared to players that are playing, or have played, in there era. I love both of the QBs, but they played in different eras, different rules.
And we seen how he melted like a ice cream cone 🍦 in summer time with the bucks defense. TB12 the real GOAT 🐐 and always be in my book
Not hating on Mahomes, he has at least 10 int taken away due to (backside/opposite side field) defensive holding penalties. Those calls weren't as prevalent 10-15 yrs ago.
Amen. Just look at the hits he took vs Seattle and Giants in Super Bowls
It’s never alright Kelce was straight up disrespectful to his coach.
Heard Edelman says on another interview "Happens all the time, you just don't see it on TV. Not a good look but happens all the time. Tom had MFed a lot of players when he was mad. Unless you have played big games and worked that hard that long and played that hard with those kind of game conditions, your opinion is just a bad wind and matters zip. They have a relationship of 12 years and Trav loves Andy and vice versa." One of the players said that in December Andy was actually pushing Trav!! Trav apologized within the hour!! Multiple times. You see 3 seconds and make an opinion. They have YEARS of working together and with 3 super bowl rings, it's working. Shut up. "There are a lot of things behind the scenes nobody knows about" KC encourages Trav's passion and focus to win. It motivates everyone and Trav is loved on that team. One of the players said Trav is the chillest guy until he gets on the field. 3 seconds and let's make drama. If Coach Reid is good with it, it's good enough for me.
Brady is the Goat 🐐
I hope Chris jones signs at least a 2 year with the cheifs. Losing hill was one thing but you can't lose the force of your defense.
Thanks Jules! Great commentary!
Jules , we know Colin is good and it might be tough to just say, the Pats we’re not in it to do anything but win , know how to win and think about winning - the rest was not discussed . Bill is a legend
Edelman's got the full package for a blazing post career. Unique dude.
Edelman is "truly" a tough man ....... Little man with a huge heart and desire to play in the NFL
I could listen to those two talk pats all day
Julian breaks it down really well
"I'm not trying to make it lightly for battle-people". Lol
Welker has sour grapes. Anything he says means nothing.
One of the all time best wide receivers Wes Welker went to three Super Bowls,two with Brady and one with Peyton, and no rings. Sad😞. I truly think if the Giants hadn’t had that TD late in the fourth quarter of Sb 42 that ultimately ruined the Patriots dream perfect season Wes Welker would quite possibly have won the MVP
WTF are you bringing up Welker for?
@@johngalt60 ya sound so jealous of Wes’s gorgeous beautiful looks! You so wish you had his snazzy awesome face. Hey I wish I had his beauty, too
@@johngalt60 maybe watch the entire video and you’ll know “WTF”
@@robertweir5313 😂
D*** Edleman.That was a crazy good interview bro
Absolutely amazing breakdown.
Julian a straight Beast tho!!!! Dude is a living legend! Mad respect for him! Love his podcast! Love his personality!
Good segment.
Absolutely NOTHING that Pat does takes away from Tom... and vice versa... however, Pat does have an opportunity to overtake Tom. In every statistical event possible
They do play an extra game every year now and the rules have changed dramatically to help QBs.. SO yea he may take over in stats but not in SB's
@@NathanBradshaw-l1zSo far in the 17-game era Brady still has had a better statistical year (2021) than Mahomes’s best (2022 MVP). More yards, more TDs, higher completion percentage, same number of interceptions.
How do we compare the two? Defenders hammered Brady, Montana, Manning, Staubach, Unitas, etc... for decades. Mahomes plays in a different NFL where QBs are protected much more. Mahomes is the best of his era, Brady and The Bucs made a statement in the SB crushing Mahomes & KC.
@@joemagarac405 Thats correct
@@NathanBradshaw-l1zNot in SBs?
Are u a fortune teller?
No one knows.
Now 8 SBs seems absolutely ridiculous but KC might just run off a couple before Kelce retires and with Pats dedication and modern day training, recovery etc he May Play as Long as Brady and at a High level. 5 SBs in 17 years is a lot but not impossible.
Hes won 3 in 6 years.
Love Julian Edelman knowledgeable and classy and also legendary clutch reciever nice
Since when did Collin start calling himself “uncle”? 💀
Very interesting, julian is transparent, like it
Bill could really help some franchise out . All he needs is TB12 to get 10yrs younger . Bill has had minimal success as a HC or GM til Tom fell into his lap ! It is definitely Bills defense’s fault NE wasn’t 9-0 in SBs .
The only loss I blame Bill for was against the eagles. Sitting Malcolm Butler just to prove a point was brain-dead coaching imo
@@keeganandersson4281 really . TB12 scored the late game points that gave NE the lead in both losses to the giants . Bill sent out a defensive game plan that immediately surrendered the lead and cost the Patriots rings . Why would you give Bellichik a pass for those 2 ?
In the beginning it was bills? Do people realize the ty law, willie mcginest, teddy bruschi, troy Brown, even adam venateri that whole first defensive unit and then some were all drafted by bill PARCELS not Belichick. Tom was able to relate to players half his age, could adapt and change, bill was the one who couldn't change. Brady wasnt looking for non stop love but when he comes back from 10 down in an afc championship game with 10 stitches in his THROWING hand and Belichick is asked about it and he says "its not open heart surgery" couldnt just say "hes a warrior" "hes our leader" anything other then deminishing what he did.
Bill drafted Seymour and wilfork not to mention brought in Mike Vrabel and countless out players ...also bill was apart of the defense staff that went to the 96 SB
@@fatpatlives1998 and then traded Seymour in his prime. Bill was a defensive backs coach in 1996 cause he got fired from Cleveland (4 out 5 loosing seasons) and parcels felt bad for his little billy b.
@chadbinette3201 the same bill that beat Parcells in 94 with the browns team he got fired from....got it then in his first year back with Parcells they go to the super bowl got it....
@@fatpatlives1998 and that's the first and LAST playoff win Belichick got WITHOUT Brady? Ok got it.
@chadbinette3201 yes that's true he spent the next 20 years building defenses and special teams for Brady not to mention drafting the greatest TE combo in NFL history got it
Technically the Panthers used the free kick under coach Rivera vs the Jaguars I think
Edelnut becoming a legend in media
What you Have-To understand is
Mahomes Getting hurt, losing Tyreek Hill, winning inspite of THAT; AND playing hurt; Specializes in "ruining" your season, AND has to: GO on the Road!( Learning how to WIN a
"Different Way"
Travis was way out of line
The legend
Moral of the story: Bill and Tom both 🐐 … it ain’t either or it’s both.
Anyone who coaches at reallt any level from junior high up realizes you can’t coach every player the same. Different players need to be coached differently. So of course the goat coach, coached different QB’s differently
Tom Brady is everything great about the Patriots
It's pretty clear in Kyle's Egomaniac arrogance that he thought the 49ers were going to win Big . So the overtime Rules weren't really disgust for that reason .
Steve Wilks did a Great Job on Defense overall . Yeah those Cover Zeros he called at times were a Head Scratcher . But overall he only gave up 16 points with 3 Minutes left in the 4th Quarter . Kyle could have easily milked that time with short passes just to move the chains for the Winning FG . But he took the FG with 1: 57 left which was a huge mistake . Everyone keeps talking about this 3 Downs compared to 4 downs in Overtime . Kyle made the choice of taking the Ball First in overtime for good reason . He saw what Tom Brady did to his Falcons in SB 51 Overtime . Brady marched the Pats down the field for the winning TD .The 49ers Defense was Gassed in the 4th Quarter of SB 58 , so Kyle wanted to give his Defense a needed Break . Kyle probably thought if he could get a TD in overtime chances are the 49ers either Stop the Chiefs to win the Game or the Chiefs would match it . This Gives the 49ers the Chance to win the Game with a FG . So the Idea the Chiefs and So called Experts feel the Chiefs had this Overtime won Vs the 49ers because the 49ers had the Ball First in overtime is nonsense .
Layup. Community College not a thing overseas.
Colin’s game with names is going to be an Aaron Rodgers loss or a Cam Newton loss lol
Love your show, I’ll still watch, but please change the “Uncle Collin”thing.
Bill Belichick isgreat . 51-49 BRADY WINS!
Now that’s what I call a Boom STICK!!! Bahahahahaa
“It’s not okay kids… but if you’re really good and you win than you get to do stuff like that 😂
When Brady was in his mid 30’s he didn’t expect to be treated and talked to like a rookie QB. That was Bill’s flaw. If he had adjusted and treated Brady with more respect, he could have won 1 or 2 more super bowls.
Everybody is uncle now 🤣🤣
Bill Belichick's record with New England
With Tom Brady 249-75
Without Tom Brady 29-38
Wes Welker is a joke. Thank the heavens for the aquiring of Julian Edelman
Uncle Colin??😂😂
Julain needs to do more with Pat McAffee
Nobody gets to bump the great Andy Reid. He's coached too long for some knucklehead upstart young stud to accost a legend!😮
You don't have to be best friends with your co-workers to work with synergy and be the best in the business.
Lebron Vs Jordan debate -Completely understandable.
Belichick Vs Brady debate -doesn’t even make sense
Why do people need to know who was more responsible for the winning? I don’t understand it’s so odd. Bill was the head coach and Brady played on one side of the ball. Why do you insist on knowing? It’s weird bro. It’s a team game bruh.
Cuz Tom signed with Fox who Colin works for and Bill didn't. That's it.
Jusjeck or whatever the fullbacks name is did know the overtime rules. He said it right after the toss. So, he was either overruled by another captain or ignored
It’s 2/3 Brady yes! 😂basically chiefs learned how to be patriots-not sexy not high flying offense but play to win SB
Chiefs are certainly following the Patriots blueprint and its working for them
Cardinals did the free kick in 2008 with Niel rackers.
The Dynasty was a symbiosis of multiple grinders...
But based on the media BB was the problem. Good for je11
You all know they aren’t playing anymore right? This is the most talked about team of all time, more so now that it’s over. I’m here for it, but it seems they’ll never go away and may even be getting more bigger and legendary as Patrick chases them. The gift that keeps on giving.
Can’t tell if you are upset about this or happy about it
@@inbracedefeatthat’s what im saying 😂😂
@@inbracedefeat I love those teams and I hope they never stop talking bout um. There the best. It was awesome to experience. Love hearing about the greatest dynasty in NFL history absolutely.
❤❤❤
Ahhhh it’s never ok
Is Colin making fun of Shannon by calling himself Uncle? Was that a slip? Was it just him being unoriginal? What is that? It’s cringe whatever it was
8 for 8 why because 6 of 6 holding calls on the offensive line were not called. Cameras to busy distracted by Taylor S oft. Great job NFL you are the new WWE
Edelmen’s comment that Travis Kelce is allowed to have an emotional breakdown because he performs so well. That attitude of the ends (good performance) justifies the means (emotional volatility) is a societal problem. We need to call out unacceptable behavior and then forgive. People cannot get the mixed message unacceptable behavior is OK if you are talented/wealthy/or otherwise privileged. I understand the emotional nature of the game and can understand Kelce’s reaction, but day it is wrong, apologize for the display, and say will work on controlling it in the future.
Physically assaulting Belichick would never be tolerated, even if Brady did it. Hed be benched and suspended
Fun Fact...12 QBs Who Have Appeared in Multiple SBs Mahomes Ranks "DEAD LAST" in 12th in SB Stats...Stat of The Day...With The Bucs Tom Brady Was "64-0!!" in The Redzone (64TDs & 0 INTs)...That Stat is Absolutely BANANAS!!!!
Sure, but he steps up when it counts. Can’t take that away
@@johnnieclemons2921 Mahomes Certainly is Clutch
This bill and Tom story is disheartening cuz now Colin is just gonna use it to further disrespect bill
Did he really just say "uncle" Collin?! 😅 We all know who the real Unc is, stop it 🤦🏻♂️
Edelman will be in the Hall of Fame
No
@@kang7664 why not let’s hear it? I’m open for discussion
These media fanatics will never understand what Edelman was saying about Bill, chess & pulling strings. Football isn't madden or a stat sheet let alone a box score. Nowadays everyone is an expert they can just look at stats on Google & they know it all. It's honestly disgusting as someone whose watched & loved Football for almost 40 years now
did this man really just call himself uncle colin...okay shannon
Edelman is trying to be fair to Bill. But he did say the offense was all Tom. In hindsight it is clear Bill doesn’t know anything about offense
Jay Williams. Community College.
“Gotta remember that it’s produced by one side or the other” aka it’s Kraft propaganda/Belichick hit piece
Bs on Kelce.
Is it “not okay” or does he “get to do that”?????
All you need is a community of colleges who can't play. US has one.
The Pats last SB the offense scored 13 points. Don't say it wasn't Bill.
The Packers 3 peted NFL titles . Look it up
In the early 60s BEFORE the merger with the other LEGITIMATE teams. If this chiefs team played then they’d been undefeated every year and would win 5 NFL championships in a row
Edelnut
What did Collin do twice???
😂😂😂
Hit show on two different networks for starters.
@@kcender3771
Listen to the first 30 seconds!
@@kcender3771
*Listen to the first 15 seconds
2024. Team ignite. Don't want that community College can't read stuff.
It was never bill’s dynasty. Bill won with Brady. Can’t be a dynasty when you couldn’t win without him
Did tom win every year in tampa ? Foh
@@leonrodriguez1714 such a stupid comment
I think the take no one is talking about with Bill Belichick and the Patriots, Bill Is a victim of his own doing. What I mean is, we all always blame the concept of trying to integrate Bill's culture lnto a different organization that causes his assistants to fail. I think when Bill lost Tom Brady, they started loosing, and Bill sold out his culture for Cam Newton, that his own culture failed him. Who wants to be treated that way if they are loosing games
49 head coach need to leave the teams!
When the Chiefs are in 3rd and long, who stepped up... the refs. Chiefs are a great team.
Oooooooooooooo Patriots Drama 😎
Colin trying to be Pat now
If Ciara’s new husband could win a Super Bowl do
Party foul. How about all of 49ers grown men. And in the NFL.!!!!!!
Spelling your own name. It won't get easier in the nba.
I'm late to this party but Belichick should never again be trusted with a HC position. He's borderline megalomaniacal, and a cancer in any position of authority. I would hire him as a DC with very minimal authority only. He's also a HUGE hypocrite. He expects EVERYONE ELSE to be accountable and team driven so, WHY ISN'T HE??!! It's abundantly clear that Belichick is a brilliant Narcissist. He's the best defensive and tactical mind the game has ever seen, but he has NO respect for offense and offensive players, and NO respect for the Owner that employs him. He has repeatedly undermined what was best for the team while claiming otherwise. Sitting Malcolm Butler in SB 52 threw ALL Players under the Bus! How was that best for the TEAM?! Players are human and all different. It's a HC duty to manage personalities and CREATE an atmosphere of SUCCESS for overall TEAM benefit! Ruining the starting QB consciously or unconsciously because he isn't "your guy" is Textbook NARCISSISM and absolutely NOT what is “BEST” for the TEAM! Belichick does what is best for his EGO! He may have cut his football teeth under Navy Athletics, and he may THINK he runs a team modeled on the military, but he does NOT! He FORGOT that EVERY serviceman swears an oath and is accountable to a higher authority! The Admiral or General, may not agree with or even respect The President, but it's their duty to their country to follow orders and to NEVER undermine or subvert “The Boss” or the MEN under their command. Belichick repeatedly undermined and subverted Kraft and the players. IMO, players were willing to endure the "Belichick Way" because they believed TB12 ensured a legitimate SB shot year after year. Yes, the defenses were equally important to the repeated success, but The GOAT was the GLUE that held it all together. When the glue dissolved, it unsurprisingly fell apart.