I don’t know why Whites doesn’t advertise it but they have a munson last. It’s called the 9338 or #38 swing last. It’s much more comfortable than the 55 or 4811.
@@righturnclyde thanks for letting me know! I’ll have to check them out in the future 100% Anatomical lasts are only getting more popular based on what I can tell. Especially as the barefoot movement continues I think people will have less tolerance for messing up their feet for fashion
nice to see your videos again! man those look good, i really cant believe how good he is in collaborations, red version of that boot is one of my favorite boots. im also taking fit more and more serious as im longer in to boots, in my case B width with big toe splay. im thinking to go for a pair of Thruman Nicks tankers
Yeah that Thurman last seems like it solves the problems that a lot of guys have with the pnw lasts. If they were anatomical it wouldn’t be necessary to get so wide of a size often times I think. That first pair is great too, honestly I wish I had bought them at the time. I’ve thought about trying my best to recreate them but using the Thurman last at nicks. I wish that had a similar color red leather.
These were an impulse buy for me and they ended up being one of my fav pairs. I’m not a black boot guy but these are a great only pain of black boots. Btw these are pretty much 10” Whites Farmer/Ranchers with a less pronounced packer heel instead of a logger heel. I do wish they were 8” high though.
I enjoy the ten inch height, I think it makes them feel very substantial. If the size were to shrink I think I’d want a slightly smaller heel to compensate. I actually have the opposite impulse where I find it easier to wear black boots so these are perfect for me. Now I just need a pair of brown boots😂
I have the MP’s and the 2.0 which sounds great but the 2.0’s have made me not like the MP’s because of the celastic toe so now I will only buy unstructured toes lol
Yes! I totally agree, even if I bought a pair of boots with a toe cap, I would still want them to be unstructured. With the exception of boots like the Viberg 310s and the kreosote boots which are all intended to have large chiseled structured toes, I think it’s almost always better to have unstructured because it’s more natural and ages much better.
It seems we share similar feet shapes (paddle feet that is) I had similar issues with sizing. I had ordered a 9 EE based off of the chart and my measurements. It did fit as expected in the length and ball of the foot but the toe box was narrow and crushed my feet during break in (especially my small toe) after break in the toebox (which is luckily tall) shaped out and became wider, I still cant wear thick socks without it being tight but my big toe has plenty of room and no longer have pressure. I will likely have to order 9 F or 9.5 EE in the future if i want a better fit, the waist of the boot, were the arch is, is actually too narrow and my feet lay past the side of the insole, this along with arch break in caused some issues for me that are still present. I wear them to work (Its not a hard working job but i do move and load heavy items regularly) and have had some color change in the leather still subtle though. Hope you continue uploading regularly ill keep an eye out since your stuff seems good!
@@calebgasca it has widened with wear so it fits mostly now but when i need a resole i might pay the extra to get it rebuilt a size wider. they are definitely worth that investment to me.
@@calebgasca I do like the idea of having a munson lasted boot but I do like the look of the 4911 on the Drifter. if you do get a munson based boot id like to see how it works out as far as fit.
@@fistofice yeah if that happens I’ll make a video on it for sure. I’m trying not to buy anything big for the rest of the year so it likely won’t be very soon. But keep an eye out just in case!😂
I got the D width and they squish my toes. Also, the big heel is not cushiony AT ALL, but overall they are black boots that look like combat packer boots?
Allen Edmonds shoe trees fit unbelievably well when my other usual ones wouldn't go down the narrow toes at all. Happy accident there, mostly. I guess if you WANT the toe to collapse, this will be useless info.
Nick's is a little less expensive for packer boots and they have tan color that I might like to get someday, but the stock model the quick ship or something is maybe the safer bet when curious about sizing issues, etc. Not sure if their wait times are better overall, but maybe. I like brown more than black, tho, so...
The square-toe cowboy boots might be more comfortable for all day work, but they are not stylish at all. I can't seem to find many that I like the look lately, and I don't like wearing them much in hot weather, either. These maybe people would also find a bit warm BUT at least they could be worn with shorts and not look as dorky as taller riding boots AND as much as I don't like walking in riding boots, walking in these is a smidge more natural or something. But they DO bite in that foreleg pinch area.
Interesting to hear someone who can’t handle brown but defaults to black. I’m the reverse. I’m selling my only black boot as I can’t live with black boots haha.
Haha I wouldn’t say I can’t handle them😂. I do feel more comfortable with them though. I think for me it’s just easier to wear black bc with brown it’s much more important to match the tones of the leather. Which can be annoying, I often don’t feel like spending money on a new belt to match the boots I want. I think that’s one of the biggest appeals with black. Plus my mom used to make me buy black shoes because they didn’t look as dirty to maybe my mind had been secretly conditioned haha.
Yes and?Symmetrical creasing can be done and is with considering when paying the better part of 1,000 dollars on a pair of boots. I didn’t say that ruined them. Just something worth noting. That’s the point of a review to point out your experience with a product to inform other potential buyers.
dude 20 minutes of some boot talk, awesome
Haha, I’m glad you enjoyed!
I don’t know why Whites doesn’t advertise it but they have a munson last. It’s called the 9338 or #38 swing last. It’s much more comfortable than the 55 or 4811.
Bro what the heck I had no clue, that would be nice to know in the future😂
@@calebgasca Yeah I guess they don’t push it because it’s not as aesthetically pleasing as the other lasts but I just got a pair and they are amazing.
@@righturnclyde thanks for letting me know! I’ll have to check them out in the future 100%
Anatomical lasts are only getting more popular based on what I can tell. Especially as the barefoot movement continues I think people will have less tolerance for messing up their feet for fashion
Love to see it. Keep making more vids.
Thanks! Will do!
Interesting insights on the boots!
Thank you! I’m glad you think so!
nice to see your videos again! man those look good, i really cant believe how good he is in collaborations, red version of that boot is one of my favorite boots.
im also taking fit more and more serious as im longer in to boots, in my case B width with big toe splay. im thinking to go for a pair of Thruman Nicks tankers
Yeah that Thurman last seems like it solves the problems that a lot of guys have with the pnw lasts. If they were anatomical it wouldn’t be necessary to get so wide of a size often times I think. That first pair is great too, honestly I wish I had bought them at the time. I’ve thought about trying my best to recreate them but using the Thurman last at nicks. I wish that had a similar color red leather.
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These were an impulse buy for me and they ended up being one of my fav pairs. I’m not a black boot guy but these are a great only pain of black boots. Btw these are pretty much 10” Whites Farmer/Ranchers with a less pronounced packer heel instead of a logger heel. I do wish they were 8” high though.
I enjoy the ten inch height, I think it makes them feel very substantial. If the size were to shrink I think I’d want a slightly smaller heel to compensate. I actually have the opposite impulse where I find it easier to wear black boots so these are perfect for me. Now I just need a pair of brown boots😂
I have the MP’s and the 2.0 which sounds great but the 2.0’s have made me not like the MP’s because of the celastic toe so now I will only buy unstructured toes lol
Yes! I totally agree, even if I bought a pair of boots with a toe cap, I would still want them to be unstructured. With the exception of boots like the Viberg 310s and the kreosote boots which are all intended to have large chiseled structured toes, I think it’s almost always better to have unstructured because it’s more natural and ages much better.
It seems we share similar feet shapes (paddle feet that is) I had similar issues with sizing. I had ordered a 9 EE based off of the chart and my measurements. It did fit as expected in the length and ball of the foot but the toe box was narrow and crushed my feet during break in (especially my small toe) after break in the toebox (which is luckily tall) shaped out and became wider, I still cant wear thick socks without it being tight but my big toe has plenty of room and no longer have pressure. I will likely have to order 9 F or 9.5 EE in the future if i want a better fit, the waist of the boot, were the arch is, is actually too narrow and my feet lay past the side of the insole, this along with arch break in caused some issues for me that are still present.
I wear them to work (Its not a hard working job but i do move and load heavy items regularly) and have had some color change in the leather still subtle though.
Hope you continue uploading regularly ill keep an eye out since your stuff seems good!
Yeah these seem to be a difficult fit if you are a wider foot
@@calebgasca it has widened with wear so it fits mostly now but when i need a resole i might pay the extra to get it rebuilt a size wider. they are definitely worth that investment to me.
@@fistofice you could also look at having it rebuilt on their Munson last which I might do
@@calebgasca I do like the idea of having a munson lasted boot but I do like the look of the 4911 on the Drifter. if you do get a munson based boot id like to see how it works out as far as fit.
@@fistofice yeah if that happens I’ll make a video on it for sure. I’m trying not to buy anything big for the rest of the year so it likely won’t be very soon. But keep an eye out just in case!😂
I'm gonna buy the nd4 hope it looks cool
Those are a little too hardcore for me personally but they are pretty cool
Ive been wearing mine as much as possible and still no teacore colors yet either lol.
Yeah I think they are going to be slow faders!
I got the D width and they squish my toes. Also, the big heel is not cushiony AT ALL, but overall they are black boots that look like combat packer boots?
Yeah, I have no real use for the pocket kit whatsoever.
Mine came quick, too, but then they wouldn't prioritize any rebuilds or whatever.
Allen Edmonds shoe trees fit unbelievably well when my other usual ones wouldn't go down the narrow toes at all. Happy accident there, mostly. I guess if you WANT the toe to collapse, this will be useless info.
Nick's is a little less expensive for packer boots and they have tan color that I might like to get someday, but the stock model the quick ship or something is maybe the safer bet when curious about sizing issues, etc. Not sure if their wait times are better overall, but maybe. I like brown more than black, tho, so...
The square-toe cowboy boots might be more comfortable for all day work, but they are not stylish at all. I can't seem to find many that I like the look lately, and I don't like wearing them much in hot weather, either. These maybe people would also find a bit warm BUT at least they could be worn with shorts and not look as dorky as taller riding boots AND as much as I don't like walking in riding boots, walking in these is a smidge more natural or something. But they DO bite in that foreleg pinch area.
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Interesting to hear someone who can’t handle brown but defaults to black. I’m the reverse. I’m selling my only black boot as I can’t live with black boots haha.
Haha I wouldn’t say I can’t handle them😂. I do feel more comfortable with them though. I think for me it’s just easier to wear black bc with brown it’s much more important to match the tones of the leather. Which can be annoying, I often don’t feel like spending money on a new belt to match the boots I want. I think that’s one of the biggest appeals with black. Plus my mom used to make me buy black shoes because they didn’t look as dirty to maybe my mind had been secretly conditioned haha.
@@calebgasca that’s funny about not looking dirty. Glad to see you making videos again. I remember your Alden 405 video.
@@EDHBlvd thanks!
try to 55 last sometime, i think its wider
I’m pretty sure it’s more narrow, at least that’s now Weston made it seem when explaining the design
@@calebgasca its not! it curves more
which size is it?
10.5 EEE
Seriously ? You're worried about non identical creases ?
Yes and?Symmetrical creasing can be done and is with considering when paying the better part of 1,000 dollars on a pair of boots. I didn’t say that ruined them. Just something worth noting. That’s the point of a review to point out your experience with a product to inform other potential buyers.