Cafe De Rene LIVESTREAM #4 W/ Paul London & Kid Kash

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  • Опубликовано: 22 окт 2024

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  • @thaddeusharvey2489
    @thaddeusharvey2489 2 года назад +56

    The dynamic has improved ever since Paul London became a regular. You can tell they are having fun

    • @JayAnthony87
      @JayAnthony87 2 года назад +3

      exactly!

    • @Greeneggsz
      @Greeneggsz 2 года назад +5

      I must say myself it’s pretty cool watching Paul London eating snacks for over an hour 1:18:00 & Rene Dupree getting stoned & Kid Kash telling great stories. Doesn’t get any better than that! 🤘🏻🔥

    • @StarMakerBolin
      @StarMakerBolin 2 года назад +2

      Paul is one awesome guy.I think the world of him and Rene. Paul was never in Bolin Services on TV but we called him and Aaron Stevens shoot BS coz they are always with us.

    • @CasJoggingNewYork
      @CasJoggingNewYork 10 месяцев назад

      ​@@Greeneggszjames looks the most stoned lol edible freeze 😂🥶

  • @NICKWAPPERER117
    @NICKWAPPERER117 2 года назад +20

    One of the best shows yet. I'm so ready for Monday. Thank you James, Rene, and Paul. You guys have made my day better more than once

  • @diluted8
    @diluted8 2 года назад +18

    So good to see Kid Kash alive and healthy. He was one of my favourites in TNA in the 2000's

    • @miamimagicians
      @miamimagicians 2 года назад

      ecw

    • @mrmoviemanic1
      @mrmoviemanic1 Год назад

      He was probably the first wrestler I ever saw as Royal Rumble 06 was my first ever WWE ppv.

  • @Emzsz
    @Emzsz 2 года назад +12

    Also became a regular when Paul jumped on board, this was my favorite episode so far, great work guys

  • @Greeneggsz
    @Greeneggsz 2 года назад +9

    YES!!! Another return for Kid Kash! Paul London & the Cafe De Rene fellas !! 3 hour podcast?! THIS IS AWESOME! This is freaking awesome! Greatest podcast I love to watch!
    It’s great seeing Kid Kash! Always great listening to him

    • @Greeneggsz
      @Greeneggsz 2 года назад +1

      Can’t believe I missed this live show! All you gentlemen are awesome. I really appreciate this show.

  • @motivational_determination
    @motivational_determination 2 года назад +18

    Great show, guys! That was another entertaining live stream! Will definitely tune in to the next one. Kurt Angle interview should be a must see.

  • @davidwhite7750
    @davidwhite7750 2 года назад +8

    Kid Kash is brilliant, he’s a fantastic storyteller, full of those hard knock tales. Great show lads, keep up the good work.

  • @codesm96
    @codesm96 2 года назад +7

    This was legendary thank you again for knocking it out of the damn park. It's not even been 24 hours and already 5,000 views. Well done, finally getting the recognition you all deserve...can't wait for the next one!!!

  • @Joe_Prinzo
    @Joe_Prinzo 2 года назад +20

    Been watching the show off and on. Became a regular when Paul jumped on board. You guys have one of the best wrestling podcasts out there! If you don't have it by then, I'm sure bringing Kurt Angle on the show will skyrocket you guys past 10k subs.

  • @wrestlingmetalbarbie8286
    @wrestlingmetalbarbie8286 2 года назад +6

    Awesome show! The stories had me in stitches. Great seeing Kid Kash! Paul as a regular is fantastic! Excited to see Kurt Angle! 🙌🏻

  • @animal1nstinct394
    @animal1nstinct394 2 года назад +9

    Kid Kash still looks incredible, I can't believe he's 53.

  • @ZealousZombie01
    @ZealousZombie01 2 года назад +3

    This was a pleasure to listen to. Loved Kash's stories and London is so quick. Keep it up

  • @technox8166
    @technox8166 2 года назад +3

    James and Rene, you guys keep getting better and better. 👍 I love Kash’s perspective along with comedic London: “Music business is closed for the holidays.” 🤣 Rene, as usual doesn’t hold back. This show progressing has made my work day easier at the office and during travel. Great conversations and stories. Makes me miss the early 2000s era even more.

  • @DavidMartinez-pg3zq
    @DavidMartinez-pg3zq Год назад +1

    There is something charming about James. Very knowledgeable and just waits patiently on the sideline until his input is needed. He's very knowledgeable and is there to fill in the gaps when Rene or Paul are drawing a blank.

  • @ManikiMPACT
    @ManikiMPACT 2 года назад +7

    Good shows guys I don't mind the 4 hours enjoy all the Storys

  • @kv01010
    @kv01010 2 года назад +3

    Kid Kash used to live in East Nashville/Inglewood.. I work for the local water department, and used to go over his house while I was at work and kick it, and bug the shit out of him about wrestling and this was not even a year after his last TNA contract expired, 2013/2014 area.. He was so cool, he put up with me, and never acted like he wanted to be somewhere else.. I'll always have 10000x respect for that guy.. He moved I believe, so it kinda fizzled, but I know he'd remember me if he saw me, cause he was so cool and u could tell he wasn't someone fuck with..

  • @brayds89
    @brayds89 2 года назад +6

    You guys are on 🔥🔥🔥
    Keep it up James and Rene, its catching on lads. Quality content as usual !!!

  • @back2jayson
    @back2jayson 2 года назад +6

    The only wrestling podcast that shines the light on stars that needed it more back then🚀

  • @90sDude.
    @90sDude. Год назад +3

    38:27 Lio Rush
    1:17:00 Austin Aries
    1:27:00 Juventud Guerrara
    1:39:51 Locker Room BS
    1:43:00 Chad Wicks' Cab Fare
    2:10:23 Batista Vs Booker T Fight

  • @intothedeepstate7491
    @intothedeepstate7491 2 года назад +2

    Love the addition of Paul London, one of the great minds in wrestling. His insight is unparalleled.

  • @forgottenmma3694
    @forgottenmma3694 2 года назад +6

    Oh hell no. Michael Hayes with the “Looking good” 😂😂😂

    • @codesm96
      @codesm96 2 года назад +1

      Michael 'I wanna stare at you while you're naked in the shower' Hayes

  • @Weirzy
    @Weirzy 2 года назад +5

    Great show I appreciate you all for sharing your insights. It would be great to have RVD, Stevie Richards or Mark Jindrak return for one of these.

    • @heelgill
      @heelgill 2 года назад

      Mark Jindrak, definitely.

  • @DatsyukZherdev
    @DatsyukZherdev 2 года назад +2

    not sure if you guys read the comments but keep up the great work, I know it's hard putting all this together . I almost like the livestreams more than the specific episodes , it's a great bonus thing to add. cheers

  • @mrmoviemanic1
    @mrmoviemanic1 Год назад +2

    It's just cool to see the guys have down-to-earth fun, shoot the shit and just be buds on this podcast, which is so different from others which to me are mostly just people wanting to get the big stories or explain why a big angle worked. I like stuff like this which is just about having fun and being honest from their perspective of what they saw in the business.

  • @chrisbills7076
    @chrisbills7076 2 года назад +4

    My favourite podcast by far. Awesome job guys!!!

  • @joshcoffey8195
    @joshcoffey8195 2 года назад +4

    Great show guys!! James missing superchats but I love ya guys! Keep up great work!

  • @Sener
    @Sener 2 года назад +6

    Jamie Noble's one of my favourites ever, any chance you could get him on the show?

  • @stony5243
    @stony5243 2 года назад +6

    great show love yalls chemistry

  • @ricflairslastdoobie7605
    @ricflairslastdoobie7605 2 года назад +2

    Three hours of these dudes chatting wasn't enough. Great show, can't wait for more

  • @jnulpi
    @jnulpi Год назад +1

    kid kash was a great piece of talent.he was very underrated.he had so many to offer.

  • @LburgVAGuy
    @LburgVAGuy 2 года назад +4

    I remember when KidKash showed up in ECW. Sucks it closed down before he got his chance to shine. RVD vs Jerry Lynn vs Kid Kash 3 way dance would have been epic

    • @WaldoBagelTopper
      @WaldoBagelTopper Год назад +1

      Ah man- you're not lying. He was the coolest shit I saw in a while in ECW. And yea, I used to love Jerry Lynn too.

  • @spear200head4
    @spear200head4 2 года назад +8

    Best show on RUclips

  • @gaijintv1207
    @gaijintv1207 2 года назад

    Thankyou for providing a forum
    for us all to sit and listen t Kid Kash and Paul London, talk wrestling, keep up the good work!

  • @jaredaviet8297
    @jaredaviet8297 2 года назад +1

    Great show with terrific guests! Thank you for taking my question. Keep up the great work, guys.

  • @mgtkmg
    @mgtkmg 2 года назад +1

    Puffin on some of the best U.P weeeed.. Upper Penninsula Michigan, in Garden Bay! Finally got me a vacation away from St Louis, Missouri. Super happy to see the post, boys. Can't wait to get shirts. Make them awesome, so I can wear them on stage at concerts.

  • @stylingandprofiling6780
    @stylingandprofiling6780 2 года назад +1

    Hey guys,
    It’s been really cool to watch your show grow over the last 6 months or so. Like your self James. I grew up watching Rene and all the guests you bring on. I live in Perth Australia. I was hoping you could tell me when you go live on Thursday morning?
    Thanks Jack

  • @WaldoBagelTopper
    @WaldoBagelTopper Год назад +2

    "The music industry is closed for the holidays" 1:37:35

  • @jtomac652
    @jtomac652 2 года назад +2

    My favorite podcast great job guys.

  • @MalfunctioningRobot
    @MalfunctioningRobot 2 года назад +9

    Paul has been an excellent addition to the show.

    • @pk_1
      @pk_1 2 года назад +1

      fav guest!

  • @JayAnthony87
    @JayAnthony87 2 года назад

    Okay im hooked! was only watching for my man Paul but these 4 together with their dif outlooks etc.. is GOLD. love it guys!

  • @riffsandwich9541
    @riffsandwich9541 2 года назад +5

    Kid rules. He is an underrated interview.

  • @A231989
    @A231989 2 года назад +2

    Great stuff as always podcast is 🔥🔥every time Rene !!!

  • @buffbeenstuffed
    @buffbeenstuffed 2 года назад +1

    This was a tremendous show and finally the Michael Hayes Shower gate story is out there

  • @j.b.595
    @j.b.595 2 года назад +2

    Kid kash is a great interview. I though his brain buster was real when I was a kid 😂

  • @frizzyred1292
    @frizzyred1292 2 года назад

    Really great, keep this content coming, I look forward to this show every Thursday. Funny Kid Kash mentioning the mullet, as thats is how mine is styled lol.

  • @dante6617
    @dante6617 2 года назад +1

    Great show as always guys! Hopefully we can see archer on the show one day!

  • @ElementForLife78
    @ElementForLife78 5 месяцев назад

    Paul had me rolling with that Triple H story. Absolute gold 😂😂😂

  • @JayAnthony87
    @JayAnthony87 2 года назад +5

    Lio acting like Latrell Sprewell!! hahaha only NBA fans from back in the day gonna get that one!

    • @JTD2001
      @JTD2001 2 года назад +1

      Yessir

  • @blacksabbath4252
    @blacksabbath4252 2 года назад +3

    Great show, keep paul

  • @codyjohnson8959
    @codyjohnson8959 2 года назад +4

    " Social media giving a voice to people who should never be heard ever" this day and age described perfectly.

  • @michaelcooper9705
    @michaelcooper9705 2 года назад +2

    The free-spirited time management is what makes this podcast unique and special. I love the format the way it is.

  • @Wallym0h
    @Wallym0h 2 года назад +2

    Paul is out here trying to beat Joey Diaz for "breathing in the mic on a podcast world championship" idk guys Coco has that deep "im about to have a heart attack" but London's "i dont know how close the mic is to my face" could have him beat.
    all jokes aside great show as always

  • @theodorepetit7421
    @theodorepetit7421 2 года назад +3

    With the stories told by London, I think Triple H might’ve actually kinda liked him (not sexually, but in a smoking buddy/ new x-pac kind of way). He was probably trying to see if London is someone that would rat him out just for a bigger spot, but never got the nerves up to actually get cool with you. I’m probably crazy, though. I don’t know. It could’ve also been a trap.

  • @y2taner429
    @y2taner429 2 года назад +4

    what an star cast. Kid kash, Renee dupree, paul london and steve blackman

  • @ABSF49
    @ABSF49 2 года назад +5

    Since when is 350k$ something to be mad about getting paid.

    • @codesm96
      @codesm96 2 года назад +2

      Exactly these primadonnas are embarrassing

  • @michaelcooper9705
    @michaelcooper9705 2 года назад +4

    Love this podcast. Cafe de Rene and Jim Cornette's are the only wrestling podcasts worth listening to.

  • @BlindassassinMGTOW
    @BlindassassinMGTOW 2 года назад +2

    When are you guys doing the next livestream?

  • @SuperHeman123
    @SuperHeman123 2 года назад +1

    London and Kash are great !!!

  • @misterkrogan8837
    @misterkrogan8837 2 года назад +1

    Paul London is the most underrated wrestler to ever wrestle in wwe.

  • @spangdeez498
    @spangdeez498 2 года назад +5

    I bet Paul has to smoke a doobie before he gets on here 🤣

  • @jonathangayle6510
    @jonathangayle6510 2 года назад +6

    James, is your last name really Here? Lol

  • @stony5243
    @stony5243 2 года назад +3

    mane after watchin this i gotta jump on svr 2006 or 2007

  • @Luke-cu7ue
    @Luke-cu7ue 2 года назад

    I think a good call for orange cassidy in terms of story is to find the event or item (title?) that finally gets him to care and leave this carefree persona behind. I think this could make a really good long-term storyline.

  • @atimetraveler4910
    @atimetraveler4910 2 года назад

    Would not wanna mess with this dude. Wish he got a main event run!

  • @DerptyDerptyDUM
    @DerptyDerptyDUM 7 месяцев назад

    48:51 Survivor triumphantly busted in for like 1 second. ❤️‍🔥

  • @mapledripcomics
    @mapledripcomics 2 года назад

    This is a winn8ng formula James. You guys should watch some old territories TV to get your opinion on that.

  • @Sener
    @Sener 2 года назад +1

    This format with a bunch of wrestling buddies telling stories and talking business is AWESOME! I've always enjoyed the pocast, even with just Rene or just Rene + a guest, but this whole group conversation is amazing, hope you keep doing it!

  • @Drfrostybrew
    @Drfrostybrew 2 года назад +2

    Paul is right about Jim Johnston the ratio of generic themes to great ones proves it.

    • @IndicaEuphora
      @IndicaEuphora 2 года назад +3

      I immediately think of London, Bobby Lashley, and Tatanka's theme from 2006. It's the same song with 3 variations
      🤣

    • @IndicaEuphora
      @IndicaEuphora 2 года назад +1

      @@nadirsanchez1675 Calm down buddy I never said he wasn't part of what made WWE great. He just had a pretty lazy stretch in the mid 2000's

  • @StarMakerBolin
    @StarMakerBolin 2 года назад

    Me and Kid Cash agree on Orange Cassidy and Hook.

  • @butchvito
    @butchvito Год назад

    Looking good boys.😎

  • @drewspods
    @drewspods 2 года назад +2

    Paul is better at leading the conversation. Rene is more of a chime in kind of guy, not really good at carrying the conversation. Paul can carry it, James can help steer thngs back on track if needed. Its a good 3 man group.

  • @kcmedia83
    @kcmedia83 2 года назад

    "the music business is closed for the holidays" is an all timer.

  • @VirgilZandig
    @VirgilZandig 2 года назад

    13:30 "Rummaged the sale at Ross" was how I always felt about Robert Roode in TNA when he was trying to pull off being a rich guy.

  • @brookwoodbull24
    @brookwoodbull24 2 года назад +2

    Melina Perez on the podcast please

  • @julianpinto2895
    @julianpinto2895 2 года назад

    1:36:36
    I also remember hearing Spanky's (Brian Kendrick) theme during a promo for a show while he was still in WWE (His 1st stint), and I remember 7-8 year old me thinking that Kendrick owned the song and licensed it out lol.

  • @pk_1
    @pk_1 2 года назад

    BRING LONDON AND KASH MORE!

  • @btw8136
    @btw8136 2 года назад +1

    Get Kendrick with London on next!

  • @misterkrogan8837
    @misterkrogan8837 2 года назад

    @2:24:10
    Holy shit that is a perfect rib/prank! Omg! 😅😅😅🤣🤣🤣

  • @Sener
    @Sener 2 года назад

    We need Kid Kash and Sylvain more often to balance out Paul London's ruthlessness roasting! They're a bit more optimistic, it feels good to have that balance!

    • @technox8166
      @technox8166 2 года назад +1

      Paul London is optimistic in his own way. People want him to start sugarcoating WWE when he already had one hella of a career outside of it. WWE completely buried him into oblivion. I don’t blame him for venting his inner frustrations.

  • @Shtave3
    @Shtave3 2 года назад

    I'd love to see Renee do an appearance at the Royal Rumble.

    • @Shtave3
      @Shtave3 2 года назад

      I'm actually surprised you haven't been brought back tbh

    • @cafederene
      @cafederene  2 года назад +1

      Almost happened in 2011

  • @tizlor
    @tizlor 2 года назад +2

    4 hour stream next week orr

  • @ishmael802
    @ishmael802 2 года назад +1

    These three hours are killing me lol. A time limit is a smart move. Can’t wait for the Kurt Angle interview. Does this mean Conrad and Cafe squashed the beef lol

  • @joaopires1761
    @joaopires1761 2 года назад

    34ºC is not more than 100ºF (which is about 38º) but pretty close!

  • @axljonsson1716
    @axljonsson1716 2 года назад +1

    I love how Paul, Rene and Cash always talk about how they never watch watch wrestling but seem to know everything that has happened ever in wrestling

    • @FIXTREME
      @FIXTREME 2 года назад +1

      Probably they have show notes to read

    • @codesm96
      @codesm96 2 года назад +1

      First time they spent so long watching US wrestling promotions, normally they would catch highlights occasionally but with the show review they dedicate up to half an hour to watch some of the week's episodes so they can talk about it on here. They watched matches all the time and segments back in the WWE because that was part of the locker room culture and they acknowledge a lot has changed but they can still make a good comparison as to how these shows match up with what was on back then

    • @axljonsson1716
      @axljonsson1716 2 года назад +1

      @@codesm96 They all knew obscure stuff from like 2009. Rene claims he hasn't watched any US wrestling in 15 years but knew Lance Hoyt was in WWE for like 2 months in 13 years ago.

  • @andresukerfm7140
    @andresukerfm7140 2 года назад +1

    Thats what everbody suprises? Michael Hayes from all People was fired after 1 day what i heard, and the 2 nd time the hired him and he is still there! And he almost pissed on Linda on the Plane , if its True

  • @ryanevans126
    @ryanevans126 2 года назад +1

    Hey James did u ever go to an nxt UK show me and my mate did was pretty good gonna be nxt Europe next year I'm intrigued to see wat venues they do and countries like Italy Spain France here in uk where I'm from I enjoyed nxt UK I thought the last few years it was wwe best show was lot better then raw sd and defo better then nxt 2.0

    • @cafederene
      @cafederene  2 года назад +1

      Had tickets to go, then the pandemic hit, and since then just haven't had time due to family commitments

    • @ryanevans126
      @ryanevans126 2 года назад

      @@cafederene I believe I went to one of the last few shows in front of fans before pandemic happened I'm intrigued to see if nxt Europe be like

  • @Ravensfan842
    @Ravensfan842 2 года назад +2

    Kid Kash needs to be a co-host i can listen to him all day

  • @y2taner429
    @y2taner429 2 года назад +3

    why not bring kid kash on for the wrestling reviews i like his positive energy and he knows the show

  • @smokingskullssmoke8633
    @smokingskullssmoke8633 2 года назад

    CARNIVAAAAAALLLL

  • @Matiosav
    @Matiosav 2 года назад

    Need more rene

  • @iamthebest237
    @iamthebest237 2 года назад

    Please get Palmer Cannon on

  • @drewstephens8576
    @drewstephens8576 2 года назад +1

    Does this mean Kurt will bring his son Jason Jordan? 👀

    • @ishmael802
      @ishmael802 2 года назад +1

      And the baby momma Sharmell

  • @Sener
    @Sener 2 года назад +2

    Regarding the theme music, Yoshi Tatsu's theme was absolutely a copyright free song, I've seen it all over the place.

  • @JayAnthony87
    @JayAnthony87 2 года назад +1

    also id watch 10 hours if thats what yall wanna do lol!

  • @streettoughgeneral8981
    @streettoughgeneral8981 2 года назад

    kid kash along with most of the guest on here was sooo underated back in the day of the ruthless aggression era so much talent gone to waste

  • @drewstephens8576
    @drewstephens8576 2 года назад

    Rene is right because everyone is glued to their phones. If you took phones away, you'd see mass suicide like during the depression. People need stimulation, connection, and reaction.

  • @joshdawson5235
    @joshdawson5235 2 года назад +1

    lovin' the content..I'm a huge fan René!!!!

  • @tomarmour345
    @tomarmour345 2 года назад +1

    Love the show, great guest and adding Paul as a regular is a masterstroke but my only gripe is James's not so very hidden dislike of AEW which I find strange as the alternatives aren't that much better. Anyway great show.

    • @cafederene
      @cafederene  2 года назад +6

      Mmmm I actually praised the show 🤷

    • @codesm96
      @codesm96 2 года назад +1

      AEW has plenty of flaws and they are always talked about whenever AEW is brought up...sorry if the honest criticism hurts your feelings there is a lot that show needs to do to improve and it's all because Tony doesn't have a clue how to get his guys over with his all over the place nonsense booking at times, plenty of guys in AEW even though many can wrestle some are just spot monkeys and not the best workers or sellers which makes the match look fake and not make much sense, they are also too lazy and don't push themselves in terms of their character or their own creative which they have a little more room to make adjustments especially the ex-WWE talent yet whenever they come over they have this debut where people are talking but by the next week they're not doing anything special and are even less of a deal than before they left WWE because they want an easy paycheck and have been worked to the core at WWE...those are the guys who don't want to get themselves over and Tony is just a mark who has a billionaire daddy and should really focus on his other teams such as Jaguars and Fulham before making a half-assed attempt at a wrestling promotion just by throwing money at it and thinking he knows better than vets when he's never worked in the business before 2018.

    • @tomarmour345
      @tomarmour345 2 года назад

      @@codesm96 It seems you're not a fan of Tony Kahn who yes is inexperienced in his position but probably know more about running a wrestling company than you do as he's actually doing it and you're watching it like as you say a "mark". I have my issues with AEW like the in jokes and the reliance on Ex-WWE talent but he needs experienced heads around who've been there and done it but I think maybe they can take advantage of that fact...but that's just speculation on my part. All in all there seems to a resurgence in popularity in the WWE once AEW formed and for the life of me I have no idea why as the shows have been bad for at least 10 years now but maybe that'll change now HHH is in charge of creative. Also just an extra pinch of salt you sound jealous of Tony mate.

    • @tomarmour345
      @tomarmour345 2 года назад

      @@cafedereneIt just comes across that way and if you do not like it for whatever reason that's not a problem just be honest about it.

    • @codesm96
      @codesm96 2 года назад

      @@tomarmour345 Yeah I am jealous of Tony. That clueless cokehead mark was born to a billionaire father and life is just a game to him whereas most wrestling promoters had to actually save some money and use the very little resources they had in order to run shows so that they can make a living. Tony never made a single penny in the wrestling business he's at a loss with the amount of money spent and the little that is recovered from shows because of discounted ticket prices and network/PPV money isn't that much in comparison to what he's spent already. Tony made his money from his father's already successful businesses and was given part ownership and the income generated are from various businesses but in terms of sports teams most notably Fulham FC and the Jacksonville Jaguars. Vince on the other hand bought his father's promotion after working there in the 70s and they barely grossed anywhere close to a million at the time when he acquired it and turned it into a billion dollar business. In other words, Vince had nothing, was abused by his stepdad when he was with his mother then moved to his father during his teens and was given the chance to reconcile their relationship and he gave him a chance and a stake in his business, Vince learned more and more and then decided to take over once he was in a position to do so. He then crushed the territories with dirty tactics especially when it came to taking other promotions off of networks to show WWWF/WWF. He made all of his money today thanks to the success of WWF/WWE and that is why Vince is a billionaire. It's been nearly 5 years and the same can't be said for Tony. Since you love Tony so much why don't you go on his twitter and beg to kiss his scrawny cokehead 'I have a billionaire daddy' mark's ass and worship him while you're at it. Marks like you make me sick.

  • @pivotpointfilms
    @pivotpointfilms 2 года назад

    That dude is so funny

  • @pawaaofnegativaty9803
    @pawaaofnegativaty9803 2 года назад

    Yeah pretty much my only thing aw has no kind of character they had mjf he was probably the only guy cocky confident but who knows where he's at