Babe Ruth Swing Mechanics...Could He Hit In Today's Game?

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  • @AntonelliBaseball
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  • @ajwalsh2856
    @ajwalsh2856 2 года назад +69

    The thing that always impressed me about him is how effortlessly he swings that massive bat while looking like a middle aged dad. Guy was a beast with no training or needles.

    • @chazzx1018
      @chazzx1018 10 месяцев назад +5

      Invented the power hitter as well.

    • @yankees29
      @yankees29 8 месяцев назад +4

      He was a big dude. Lol. His hands look like meat hooks.😂

    • @independentfreepress-ifp236
      @independentfreepress-ifp236 7 месяцев назад

      Raw power?

    • @kenkaplan3654
      @kenkaplan3654 6 месяцев назад

      @@yankees29 6'2"" around 215. (when younger)

    • @yankees29
      @yankees29 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@kenkaplan3654 he was one of those barrel chested guys who could actually run pretty good for a big man.

  • @Shinobi33
    @Shinobi33 Год назад +55

    His swing was what what worked in his era. I'd assume he'd adjust to today's pitching. He was naturally gifted to do anything on the diamond

    • @MrFuchew
      @MrFuchew 11 месяцев назад +12

      It's like saying jordan wasn't a good 3 point shooter so he couldn't play today. Reality is if he needed to be a good 3 point shooter he would have been.

    • @1guitar12
      @1guitar12 4 месяца назад

      @@MrFuchew There’s tons of vids of Jordon draining 3’s at will.

    • @johns.8220
      @johns.8220 3 месяца назад +3

      That's the key word, ADJUST. Pluck him out of 1927 and drop him in the Yankees lineup tomorrow, he won't hit anything. But give him some time to study and adapt to modern pitching, I think he absolutely could make the adjustment, and would be at least a serviceable hitter, possibly a very good one.

    • @Shinobi33
      @Shinobi33 3 месяца назад +1

      @@johns.8220 exactly. But you know a modern hitter might have problems facing a pitcher from that era for the first time too. Because of all the junk they threw

    • @johns.8220
      @johns.8220 3 месяца назад +1

      @@Shinobi33 Maybe, but I think that would be a lot less of an adjustment. The "junk" that pitchers threw back then had a lot of movement, but was very slow, probably in the 70s. And was aided by the fact that baseballs got beat to oblivion over the course of the game, making it harder for the batter to see. But a modern hitter who is used to seeing 95 mph+ fastballs and cutters and 85 mph changeups on a daily basis would likely adapt to older-style pitchers a lot quicker than the other way around.

  • @kendrahwhyte9960
    @kendrahwhyte9960 2 года назад +62

    To paraphrase that joke:
    Person one: "How would Ruth hit today?"
    Person two: "He'd average about .290 with twenty-five home runs."
    Person one: "You're kidding!"
    Person two: "Remember he's over a hundred years old!"

    • @KingMinosxxvi
      @KingMinosxxvi 2 года назад +2

      That's about Cobb

    • @jayclarke9611
      @jayclarke9611 2 года назад +1

      Cobb could outfit Joe Biden right now ...even vote for Joe

    • @mitchfredricks3851
      @mitchfredricks3851 2 дня назад

      They keep saying Ruth couldn't hit today ? In these puny stadiums ,he'd be fine,BUT I doubt today's players ,could go back then ,and put up his numbers ,fields with 450 ft+ to center regularly, they couldn't do it,balls darker,no lights.. 🚂 travel

  • @Don-md6wn
    @Don-md6wn 2 года назад +74

    In 1921, Babe had 59 home runs, scored 177 runs and batted in 168 in a 154 game season, and he had an OPS of 1.359. And you're asking if he could hit in today's game? The only thing any athlete can do is dominate everybody in his or her own era, and Ruth did that like nobody else who has ever played baseball. The only other player in a major sport I can think of who might compare for dominating in his era was Don Hutson. He retired with 488 receptions, 7991 receiving yards and 99 receiving touchdowns. The next closest at the time (a guy who retired 2 years later than Hutson) had 288 receptions for 4801 yards and 45 touchdowns. Hutson also won 4 NFL championships in 11 seasons and led the league in interceptions one season. Hutson was a great player on both sides of the ball, and Ruth was on track to make the Hall of Fame as a pitcher when he converted to a full time outfielder because they couldn't keep his bat out of the lineup. They were both basically playing a different game than everybody else of their eras.

    • @dorfmanjones
      @dorfmanjones 2 года назад +7

      When it comes to total domination of their era, Gretzky in hockey is comparable to Ruth, I guess. Can't think of another. There's Pele, perhaps.

    • @josephhouk6703
      @josephhouk6703 2 года назад

      ...do we want to mention the pitchers he *didn't* face during the 1921 season?

    • @Don-md6wn
      @Don-md6wn 2 года назад +2

      @@josephhouk6703 By the way, the discrimination against black players in baseball and other sports was reprehensible, but given that quotas were clearly in place for years after Jackie Robinson broke the color line (the Red Sox didn't have a black player until 12 years after Robinson), I guess we can pretty much throw out every MLB player prior to 1970 or so.

    • @timothydillow3160
      @timothydillow3160 2 года назад

      George was the best pitcher of the 1910s.

    • @zenaidaalexandra9194
      @zenaidaalexandra9194 2 года назад +1

      @@dorfmanjones Mario Lemiux actually averaged more goals and points per game than Gretzky and it's definitely debatable

  • @danielwintersteen9561
    @danielwintersteen9561 2 года назад +103

    He would rake today as well. He’d figure it out and make tweets where needed. The bats are better and lighter, and the baseballs are harder. He’d still be great.

    • @jmsd25
      @jmsd25 2 года назад +31

      He’d be a menace on Twitter

    • @caio5987
      @caio5987 2 года назад +7

      It would be funny seeing him on tik tok also

    • @billysyms5761
      @billysyms5761 2 года назад +4

      Imagine Ruth with that Bonds elbow brace, batting helmet and a letter to MLB Owners explaining ejections / fines for coming up and in on Ruth.

    • @traviswrigg5158
      @traviswrigg5158 2 года назад +5

      @@jmsd25 "Today I did it. By biggest acheivement in my chosen field of competition. I ate 77 hot dogs. OH CRAP I HAVE A BASEBALL GAME LATER! Hope coach doesn't expect me to try any bunt hits"

    • @kingcassius2586
      @kingcassius2586 2 года назад

      @@billysyms5761 EXACTLY!

  • @archysime
    @archysime 2 года назад +58

    The Babe Ruth stat that I have always loved is in 1920 season; he led the league with 54 home runs, the next closest player was George Sisler with 19.

    • @AntonelliBaseball
      @AntonelliBaseball  2 года назад +8

      Absolutely amazing stat!

    • @Brashnir
      @Brashnir 2 года назад +6

      And only one non-Yankees TEAM hit more than 54 Home Runs - the Phillies. That would be like somebody hitting 240 homers in 2021.

    • @Don-md6wn
      @Don-md6wn 2 года назад +3

      Ruth hit more home runs that year than any other American League team. In 1927, his 60 home runs were more than any AL team other than the rest of his teammates on the Yankees, who combined for 61.

    • @vincentsaia6545
      @vincentsaia6545 2 года назад +1

      How about the fact that he was hitting more homer runs than entire teams!

    • @jayclarke9611
      @jayclarke9611 2 года назад +1

      He invented the HR as a purposeful approach to scoring runs

  • @scottlink183
    @scottlink183 2 года назад +20

    For me two things stand out at the point of contact Ruth is always is the same position. Ruth is consistent at the point of contact. Secondly Ruth generates so much power when he strides into the swing and gets incredible hip rotation! It’s awesome how much torque Ruth generates with hi# swing! You can read his uniform number on his back on the 3rd base side when Ruth swings!

  • @nopnj
    @nopnj 2 года назад +90

    Even in slow mo the Babe gets the bat through the hitting zone (hip to hip) at an almost indecipherable speed. Amazing. Some people are just meant to do certain things. He was meant to hit a baseball hard and far.

    • @CLM1987
      @CLM1987 2 года назад +13

      With that heavy of a bat he used its very impressive at the speed he gets it through the zone

    • @landmansid
      @landmansid 2 года назад +3

      Amen

    • @ajwalsh2856
      @ajwalsh2856 2 года назад +8

      No steroids or hours in the gym. Pure, raw strength.

    • @luisfermin608
      @luisfermin608 2 года назад +1

      @@ajwalsh2856 😂 he did used the steroids that were a thing back then. Y’all just blindly follow a guy that you never saw play

    • @luisfermin608
      @luisfermin608 2 года назад +1

      He was playing against a bunch of farmers that threw at 70 max. With that swing he would never get a hit at a guy throwing 90

  • @thefaceofbobby509
    @thefaceofbobby509 2 года назад +51

    The amount of homeruns he hit in that era would be like someone hitting 80 in a season and 1200 in their career. He was in a different world than everyone else. Oh and he hit .342

    • @sas6561
      @sas6561 2 года назад +1

      The coil ... the big stride ... the exaggerated move ... need SUPER QUICK hands. ... Do all kinds of exercises for the hands and wrists ... swing a bat weighted at the end, (weighted only enough that the bat could "almost" be used in a game, and quit as soon as the bat drops below the swing plane due to tiredness. Musial kept soft squeeze balls in both jacket pockets and squeezed them constantly, over and over. The heavy dead weights don't do this. Tim Tebow was strong as hell, he lifted heavy dead weights everyday, but his hands were too slow. Did he EVER pull a fastball on the inside black? ... (hint ... never!!!) ... plenty of Tebow baseball you tubes to prove it.

    • @df5295
      @df5295 2 года назад +9

      He out homered whole teams!

    • @donlawson3330
      @donlawson3330 2 года назад +5

      And during an era when the ball had to LAND fair to be a home run. No foul poles yet!

    • @waynesulak1488
      @waynesulak1488 2 года назад +4

      Oh and before he decided to be a good hitter he was the games best pitcher. I think the most important skill he had was the skill to adapt.

    • @brucetowell3432
      @brucetowell3432 4 месяца назад

      @@donlawson3330 And there were no WALLS that helped the hitters get doubles and triples like they do now...players back then could literally go up against the short fence and snag balls that are home runs and turn them into outs. Now , they have 15 feet of wall behind them and outfielders cannot navigate jumping up against that wall...balls that should be caught now, aren't

  • @elderhiker7787
    @elderhiker7787 2 года назад +10

    Great analysis and conclusions. I have had similar discussions with Smart Alec know-it-alls and I’ve never convinced anybody. I grew up watching Willie Mays in San Francisco and I’ve had people tell me that he would be just an average hitter today because of better pitchers today. But, just as you explain here, I have maintained that all great hitters have two things in common: the ability to choose the right pitch to hit and the ability to deliver the bat to the exact spot required to hit the ball squarely. This is not an easy thing to do. The science of pitching and the science of pitching from experts such as you have made each act very, very efficient and eliminated the idiosyncrasies of years gone by, but the ability to see the right pitch and explode in a controlled manner to deliver the bat to a spot no bigger than a 1/2 inch on a 95/hr moving ball is God given magic. All the great hitters have that in common and at the moment of impact, they all look the same. What they do before that moment is irrelevant because it can be adjusted and refined because that’s what you do.

    • @deepcosmiclove
      @deepcosmiclove 17 дней назад

      Like today's pitchers are better than Bob Gibson, Tom Seaver, Jim Palmer, Juan Marichal and Ferguson Jenkins; to mention only a few?

    • @mkadoza
      @mkadoza День назад

      @@deepcosmiclove Some of them are. Similar to teh Original Posters Point, Pitching is also about Two things: the ability locate the pitches regardless of speed, and the ability keep the hitter off balance. The pitchers who have done that in any era have found success. Kershaw or Gibson. Clemens or Ohtani. Pedro or DeGrom. Randy or Snell.

  • @vincentsaia6545
    @vincentsaia6545 2 года назад +9

    Totally agree with your analysis. Anyone who's read THE ART OF HITTING .300 by Charlie Lau knows that when the Babe finished his stride his feet, hips, shoulders, head, and hands are exactly where they should be. He hit .342 lifetime and played much of his career when the spitball was legal so he would be able to handle today's pitching although, as you said, perhaps not as well.

  • @yournightmareracing1754
    @yournightmareracing1754 2 года назад +18

    I got to hold and take two abbreviated swings with a Ruth bat. The Babe Ruth Museum toured around 15 to 20 years ago. They made a stop at PNG field for a AA Curve game (Pirate's AA team).
    It was after the game and I engaged with the curator of the display. No one was around. It was an interesting conversation. He sensed I've knocked a few balls around as he was telling me the weight distribution in Ruth's 42oz bat. The majority of weight near the end. He pulled one out and I was BLESSED to have held and taken those 2 easy swings. The bat indeed felt its weight. What was stunning is during the first swing, itgave immediate feedback that the bat felt much lighter with motion. More like a 32 or 33 oz bat. The second swing was more like a 1/3 to 1/2 swing. I had never felt anything like it, nor will I ever. As the swing approached my rear hip, the bat felt incredibly light. The feedback was clear that the more you accelerated with this bat, you are able to drive because of the distribution making the bat feel lighter with motion. Most surreal sensation of countless times taking cuts through my life.

    • @jonny-dp2qr
      @jonny-dp2qr Год назад +6

      Awesome story

    • @yournightmareracing1754
      @yournightmareracing1754 Год назад +3

      @@jonny-dp2qr Thanks Jonny. Best to you!

    • @wvu05
      @wvu05 6 месяцев назад +3

      [In Napoleon Dynamite voice] Lucky!

    • @kenkaplan3654
      @kenkaplan3654 6 месяцев назад +4

      Really REALLY cool. what an amazing experience.

    • @yournightmareracing1754
      @yournightmareracing1754 6 месяцев назад +5

      @@kenkaplan3654 Thank you Ken. The physical feeling is still with me. Then to think he used it brings chills

  • @IAm-qf2xb
    @IAm-qf2xb 2 года назад +43

    The Bambino was said to have used a 54-ounce hickory bat during the early stages of his career.
    -Bleacher Report

    • @nyc7708ems
      @nyc7708ems 2 года назад +2

      On avg through his career was a 42 to 46 ounce bat but he had a 54 “Ol Hickory” and at the end of his career was a 36” 38 ounce bat

    • @IAm-qf2xb
      @IAm-qf2xb 2 года назад +1

      @@nyc7708ems Yeah okay but look at what he was doing early in his career. The waggle is the difference in slugging .550+ because it is the source of angular momentum. Ruth and Bonds and Ted all waggled and they are in a class by themselves. Jack Mankin is the leading authority on angular momentum and its extremely positive effects on bat speed and barrel accuracy. Ted has a section in his hitting book called Light is Right where he was not well and hit a ball over 400 feet and over the wall barely swinging one of Stan Spence’s toothpick bats.

    • @billatkins1026
      @billatkins1026 2 года назад +1

      What wt bat do the players use today? 31oz. I believe he would have made any necessary adjustments because he was driven to out perform his competition. His ego would have pushed him to do whatever it took to be the best.

    • @IAm-qf2xb
      @IAm-qf2xb 2 года назад

      @@billatkins1026 Yeah you are talking nonsense. As MLB(Major League Baseball) bat regulations require, no baseball bat weighs less than 32 ounces or 2 pounds. In fact, the lightest bats in MLB are actually 2 pounds in weight. Most players choose 33 and 34 ounce bats.
      Show a citation for 31 ounce bats in MLB.

    • @MikeSmith-ym9eq
      @MikeSmith-ym9eq 2 года назад

      Joe Sewell used the same bat his whole career.

  • @TheCnstgrad
    @TheCnstgrad 2 года назад +63

    Georgie would have access to today's sports science (no bottles of whiskey, 12 chili dogs, and 4 groupies during the seventh inning stretch) as well as hitting coaches to adjust to today's game. He may be Barry Bonds, but I think he would be great.

    • @pohorex6834
      @pohorex6834 2 года назад +4

      They knew that was unhealthy for the body even then, he just didn’t care, and likely wouldn’t in the modern game either. Which is why he’d be at best Tim Tebow as a hitter

    • @cptsparklfingerz9210
      @cptsparklfingerz9210 2 года назад +10

      I agree with everything till you compared a drunk to a cheater. Bonds was great, don't get me wrong. But he deliberately cheated baseball. Not for any rules, or whatever, but simply for greed. He was jealous people thought KGJ was better. Sorry but people are gonna think that when KGJ is just as good and not a complete asshole to people. Bonds is a horrible human being along with cheating. So I hope thst piece of shit never gets in the HoF. Bonds, Clemens, Giambi, Rodriguez, Canseco, McGuire, Palmiero, Sosa, and everyone else proven to take steroids to deliberately enhance their performance, yeah they can all get fucked.

    • @rockypowers365
      @rockypowers365 2 года назад +1

      @@cptsparklfingerz9210 Clemens never tested positive, was cleared of perjury, and even Canseco admitted naming him was just because of his performance and not because he actually knew. Sosa failed a test in 2003 that was known to give many false positives and was mishandled by the test giver. Steroids were known to be used as far back as the 60s. Why isn't anyone looking at Nolan Ryan?

    • @rockypowers365
      @rockypowers365 2 года назад +1

      @@cptsparklfingerz9210 also, Ruth at the very minimum tried to cheat. He even tried to inject himself with sheep testicles. Amphetamines we're a thing in that time also.

    • @kennethcurtis1856
      @kennethcurtis1856 2 года назад +5

      @@pohorex6834 great players would be great players in any era. It is the mediocre players that would be weeded out.

  • @TheBatugan77
    @TheBatugan77 2 года назад +10

    I read a couple of articles stating that the Babe ordered SHORTER bats as he aged, as opposed to merely lighter ones. Better leverage. If you look at the Babe's swing, it evolved as he got older. He was more than just a big guy who swung as hard as he could. The Babe adapted with the times!

  • @daniel_moretti
    @daniel_moretti 2 года назад +32

    What stands out to me is the amount of hip rotation he gets. At end of his swing his belly button is facing almost towards the dugout.

    • @misein1
      @misein1 2 года назад +3

      That is the key. Fast hands and get your hips through. Good eyesight also helps.

    • @mkadoza
      @mkadoza День назад

      @@misein1 Ruth had a very loud set up, but he had every single thing you need to be an excellent hitter.

  • @kaneman23
    @kaneman23 2 года назад +7

    Babe has the greatest swing of all time. His movements are part of what made him the greatest. Give a young player a heavy wood bat and they will learn to swing with similar movements as they learn how to recruit their big muscles and get their body into the hit. Today they use lighter bats and never get these movements ingrained into their swing. Their position at launch and contact are also different. You don’t see players today getting as much hand depth and they’re not as connected at contact. Now everyone says pitching is too dominant for these mechanics and they wouldn’t work today. Those who believe this don’t understand those movements were also his timing mechanism.

  • @davidschalk7874
    @davidschalk7874 2 года назад +44

    I've always wondered if the Babe's stride came from his background as a pitcher. It is as though he is doing a one-for-one counter to the power generating stride of the pitcher.

    • @jackruaro
      @jackruaro 2 года назад +9

      He copied it from Shoeless Joe Jackson, his favorite player

    • @pickerpops3290
      @pickerpops3290 2 года назад +4

      @@jackruaro Yup. "If it's good enough for Shoeless Joe, it's good enough for me." - Babe Ruth quote.

    • @MikeSmith-ym9eq
      @MikeSmith-ym9eq 2 года назад +2

      Like Rocky Marciano’s punch coming from a pitcher’s motion. (Marciano turned to boxing after an injury ended his days as a pitcher.)

    • @tnolddawg
      @tnolddawg 2 года назад

      That's exactly what he was doing, look for old films from the camps working with Lou Gehrig to train kids at "boys town"

    • @michaelhudson863
      @michaelhudson863 Год назад +2

      Cobb mentioned in an interview how Ruths' pitching really tied in with his success as a hitter.

  • @rhull3939
    @rhull3939 2 года назад +189

    Any dude who hits .342 lifetime with 714 dingers could hit in any era.

    • @billysyms5761
      @billysyms5761 2 года назад +7

      Bingo.

    • @my2l
      @my2l 2 года назад +21

      hit in any era doesn't mean putting up the same numbers in any era, babe's numbers would tank if he played today.

    • @rhull3939
      @rhull3939 2 года назад +12

      @@my2l there's a chance his numbers would be lower, but there's no chance he wouldn't be elite. If I had to guess, I'd say he'd hit .310-.320 with 600-650 home runs. Take a look at him against Walter Johnson. Everyone pretty much agrees Walter Johnson was throwing around 100 miles an hour. Babe hit .280 off of him with a .389 on base percentage and a home run every 15 at bats. I don't feel like figuring it out but I would imagine his OPS off him was close to 1.000 because he also had 8 doubles and two triples in 107 AB.

    • @my2l
      @my2l 2 года назад +12

      @@rhull3939 no one agrees that johnson threw 100 lol, in fact most historians think he threw 88 topping 91 which was elite for his era. MLB average was only 87 in 1999 which was in the middle of the steroid era and 70+ years after johnson's time with improved training and mechanics. If you know anything about pitching mechanics you can easily tell that johnson didn't throw 100. Babe might hit .250 with 20 homers IF he makes major adjustments and ditch the bad habits, sports have evolved so much in 100 years it's not nearly comparable. Jesse owens would be smoked by many high school boys today lol.

    • @rhull3939
      @rhull3939 2 года назад +17

      @@my2l I've heard this argument before and I completely disagree. Ruth had elite talent. Once in a lifetime talent. So far above and beyond players of his day it was silly. He was never in the type of physical shape that players are now. He literally never pushed his limitations. If he played in this time, I'd bet my house that he'd still be in the top ten greatest hitters with access to today's training methods and technology and equipment. What would have happened if he was in the 90s and 00's and did steroids like everyone else. Not condoning that but it worked for Bonds and so many others. It's impossible to think that he'd be anything but well, well above average.

  • @libertybaptistchurch-frisc4932
    @libertybaptistchurch-frisc4932 2 года назад +43

    The Babe Ruth Museum in Baltimore has a front view video of Babe Ruth's swing...extremely smooth and quick.
    Babe Ruth, like any elite player in any era, could play in today's game.

    • @Odin029
      @Odin029 2 года назад +11

      That's what I tend to believe. The truly elite players would be able to adapt to play well in any era

    • @eb_tigers0775
      @eb_tigers0775 Год назад

      m.ruclips.net/video/uZdv-TtiMkg/видео.html

  • @jgeraci1
    @jgeraci1 2 года назад +7

    Your “running start “ analogy is I think spot on . It’s like the difference between pitching from a full windup vs the stretch. The thing that would make this difficult would be adjusting to off speed stuff but they say the game slows down for great players and it’s hard to argue that a man who’s name is synonymous with greatness wasn’t one of the greatest players!

    • @yankees29
      @yankees29 8 месяцев назад +1

      He saw the ball very well out of the pitchers hand apparently

  • @robertlivingston8835
    @robertlivingston8835 2 года назад +50

    He hit against some of the best pitching ever including scuffing, cutting and using foreign substances on the balls.

    • @my2l
      @my2l 9 месяцев назад +1

      not even close to the best pitching hahaha

    • @GregHinz-jt6nq
      @GregHinz-jt6nq 9 месяцев назад

      hey hahaha guy nobody will ever hit 104 Hr in one year again like the Babe did

    • @hyzercreek
      @hyzercreek 4 месяца назад +1

      @@my2l Wrong

    • @stevencoardvenice
      @stevencoardvenice 4 месяца назад

      ​@@GregHinz-jt6nq
      Those pitchers 100 years ago were all on c0ke and speed, and putting snot and who knows what else on the ball

    • @user-iv9er3nr6z
      @user-iv9er3nr6z 2 месяца назад

      Babe Ruth hit against glover Cleveland Alexander, lefty Grove, lefty gomez , Walter johnson etc etc

  • @scottcampbell2717
    @scottcampbell2717 2 года назад +20

    I’m on the fence with this argument. No doubt today’s pitchers have a velocity advantage, however, they also have lower seams, mounds, stricter foreign substance policy and scrutiny ect. Cobb had to contend with the dead ball era, which provided a distinct advantage to the pitcher while simultaneously endangering the hitter. I mean, those dudes were swinging at black baseballs.
    it would be an unbelievable adjustment for any of today’s stars to step in the box against a cy young just as well as it would babe staring down Pedro Martinez.
    Fun to think about though, Thanks for the content Matt!

    • @jongordon7914
      @jongordon7914 2 года назад +3

      I agree. I make a similar argument with people regarding Basketball in the 60's compared to today. Wilt Chamberlain would struggle with greater defenders if he played today, but Michael Jordan would also struggle if he had to play in heavy canvas sneakers (Chuck Taylor Converse) and had to dribble with his hand on top of the ball.

    • @Instramark
      @Instramark 2 года назад +3

      @@jongordon7914
      Hi......Wilt Chamberlain weighed 275, out power lifted Arnold Schwarzenegger, was a top collegiate track sprinter and high jumper, you name it, he did it better than everybody.
      please name me a current NBA center that can run a 9.5 hundred yard sprint, bench press over 500 pounds and jump a foot over the backboard.

    • @jongordon7914
      @jongordon7914 2 года назад +2

      @@Instramark You forgot that he could also lift up a car and throw it and shoot a spider web from his palm. Yikes! You're getting caught up in the folklore and urban myths.
      Wilt wasn't 275, he was 300+. He literally says that himself. Don't go by what's listed on paper. No, he couldn't jump a foot over the backboard. I'm not even convinced he could touch the top of it. A foot over the backboard would be 14 feet. And no, he couldn't outlift Schwarzenegger. You're conflating so many different stories. Arnold said Wilt was strong, and he was, but he was talking about triceps extensions. If you really believe he could run the 100yd dash in 9.5 seconds, I don't know what to say. Wilt was an incredible player. One of the best ever. But there's no way he would put up the same numbers today against teams that played better help defense. Same goes for Jordan playing in an era where he couldn't travel and carry the ball.

    • @i.willacceptfood9352
      @i.willacceptfood9352 2 года назад +4

      Babe’s era had a higher pitching mound. I’d bet my life the speed was the same

    • @gregb6469
      @gregb6469 2 года назад +1

      @@jongordon7914 --Wilt playing today in an era of help defense just means he would lead the league in assists!

  • @jacksmith5692
    @jacksmith5692 2 года назад +15

    He's catching the ball way in front of the plate and his torque gave him his amazing power.

  • @marktito6169
    @marktito6169 2 года назад +31

    That's not even a real game Babe Ruth swing. That looks like a pepper or some kind of fungo goofing around swing. Look at one of the Babe's real game swings. It's a mechanical thing of natural beauty. Babe had a great natural coil, going straight down with his first movement increasing the distance the bat has to travel so he'd gain as much speed/force as possible, then he was able to effortlessly fully uncoil quickly with full arm extension and powerful bat angle in his hands. Babe was swinging more with his core then his hands because of his arm extension and extreme bat angle. He was using launch angle 100 years ago. Flawlessly.

    • @kaneman23
      @kaneman23 2 года назад +2

      Mark Tito, I agree with most of what you wrote except for the part about extension. Babe didn’t extend his back arm into the hit like so many players do today. His back arm maintains a 90 degree bend through contact and doesn’t straighten until well after contact is made and into his follow through. Players today are taught to halt their rotation and extend their arms. Instructors are focused on teaching certain movements and results which is why we don’t see many natural swings like Ruth or Griffey or other greats anymore.

    • @deepcosmiclove
      @deepcosmiclove 4 месяца назад +1

      It's pre-game batting practice

    • @Sam_on_YouTube
      @Sam_on_YouTube 3 месяца назад

      That explains why they had a good shot of it. No camera person with a giant 1920s camera is going to stand that close during the live game and the zoom lenses weren't thst great.

  • @StevensCards1
    @StevensCards1 2 года назад +28

    He has the raw talent. Adjustment might be key.

    • @yankees29
      @yankees29 8 месяцев назад +1

      Dude he was swinging a club. With a light modern bat he would crush everything

    • @johnschuh8616
      @johnschuh8616 4 месяца назад

      And imagine if he were in better condition.

  • @jason_lee_jones
    @jason_lee_jones 2 года назад +19

    Ruth will rake in any era. I can't believe there could be any debate.
    I will concede if he hopped in a time machine and was entered into a contemporary game to pinch hit, he'd likely fair poorly.
    But he's the man who literally hanged baseball. He's a natural hitter. Giving him some time to work on his hitting, and it's GOAT again.
    But more to the point, were he born and raised in our era, his entire approach would be different. We can pretend pitching back then was a joke, but it wasn't. Babe faced oodles of cheese and today, he'd face far less cheese. Not to mention, were he to arrive in a time machine, pitchers would be in awe and intimidated, thus pitching accordingly. Simply put, he isn't just another player, or simply a great hitter of his era - he was the greatest hitter of his era and again, single-handedly changed the entire nature of the sport. The game has changed a lot, not only since his day, but it has changed a lot in a short time - which could lead someone to suggest Tony Gwynn couldn't hit today's pitchers.
    Of course Gwynn could. Same with the Babe.

  • @lincolntalkwithbillandjacq4928
    @lincolntalkwithbillandjacq4928 2 года назад +25

    The Yankees started using numbers on their uniforms in 1929. So, assuming this fact Ruth had some great years from 1929 to 32. The youngest he would be in this film would be 34 years old. In 1932 Ruth hit 41 HR and batted .341 at 37 years old. Point being that his technique was honed by this time. It would be interesting to see his swing prior to 1929. Thanks, good work.

    • @TheBatugan77
      @TheBatugan77 2 года назад +2

      The front of their road uniforms read YANKEES until 1930. In 1931 they switched to NEW YORK.

    • @jayclarke9611
      @jayclarke9611 2 года назад +1

      And the only Yankee player to be the only one in their history to wear a certain number?
      4 Gehrig...he was first and last to wear it.
      No other Ball player can state that.

    • @civil_leuthie
      @civil_leuthie Год назад

      Don't have much video of slender, fast, athletic Ruth. He didn't always have that body shape, that's just how he was when video became a more common thing.

  • @ralphlongo1975
    @ralphlongo1975 2 года назад +5

    What I see here, and impresses me, is that in the middle of all this stuff going on he adjusted to hit a ball that is inside. So he has a huge bat, he's moving before he knows where the pitch will be, yet he still manages tuck his arms in to get the bat closer to his body mid swing. I've never cared about his swing, but seeing that adjustment makes me think he'd be just fine in today's game because if the bat is where the ball is going to be then you'll hit it, no matter what era you're in.

  • @kevinbaker5684
    @kevinbaker5684 2 года назад +4

    Great analysis, Matt, thanks for this. I agree with many here that Ruth would have made adjustments. Like most great athletes, he was very smart about the game he played. When he got in a slump, he would even go behind the plate during batting practice-he had been a left-handed catcher at St. Mary's at times-just to get a better feel for the pitches. He spoke to sportswriters with great intelligence and in some detail-about his swing.
    And yes, he did use a 54-oz bat for some years, AND he bunted safely for hits as many as 10 times in one season.
    Would he have hit .340 over 21 years? Almost certainly not. Would have struck out over 100 times in a season? Almost certainly so. But he might also have hit over 1,000 home runs on his career.
    Most of the parks he played in had fences at greater distances than they do today. If there was an overflow crowd, they often put fans in the outfield, roped them off, and called anything hit over that rope a double. For a time there was even a rule that, if you hit the ball out of the park, the ump could whether it would have landed foul or not. Of course, this basically cost ONLY Babe Ruth home runs at the time.

  • @cptsparklfingerz9210
    @cptsparklfingerz9210 2 года назад +22

    Okay let's get one thing straight straight it comes to the Golden Age of Baseball. Babe Ruth was a professional baseball player. Baseball has about around since as early as 1847. The game as changed and players have adapted over the course of 180 years. The Babe adapted to his abilities as a pitcher to a hitter. Something people have struggled with doing since even before him. To say Ruth couldn't compete today is no different than saying today's ball players couldn't compete in those days either. People these days say this stuff like they think they know what they're talking about but they clesrly don't. Theh didn't play in the 20s n 30s. Anyways, Ruth is the greatest Baseball player of all time. There will never be another Babe Ruth, period. But the Babe could definitely have adapted to today's game. Today's players take care of their bodies much better and if Ruth went thru the training and health care of today's Baseball, he'd be even better than what he was. No, i do not believe the Babe Ruth we know n love would be successful in today's game, but an adaptive Babe Ruth would DOMINATE. Walter Johnson was throwing 100mph. So the Babe has a taste of thst anyways. But notice how the whole "everyone is throwing 100mph" arguments stop when you bring up a players abilities to adspt. Today's players had to adapt to it. Everyone today throwing 100mph only started AFTER Aroldis Chapman broke the record. He's still playing. People have adapted to him n everyone else throwing 100mph, so why can't Babe Ruth? He could have definitely adapted to today's game. You don't get called the GOAT for nothing.

    • @Jacobthekid28
      @Jacobthekid28 2 года назад +1

      May I ask, why you assume Walter Johnson threw 100 mph regularly in games back then?

    • @JorgeGarcia-xd6ve
      @JorgeGarcia-xd6ve 2 года назад +2

      Ruth is an icon..but definitely not the best player of all time.

    • @Ryan-cb1ei
      @Ryan-cb1ei 2 года назад

      Even small dudes are capable of throwing 100 regularly, form is everything

    • @vladimirlopez7840
      @vladimirlopez7840 2 года назад +1

      There are a lot of wives tales that come from that golden age of baseball. I do not believe Johnson was throwing 100 mph back then. I also don’t believe Ruth hit that one ball 660 feet or whatever it was in Tampa.

    • @swilliams21231
      @swilliams21231 2 года назад

      @@Jacobthekid28 because he plays a lot of MLB the Show. Everyone from back then threw 102 with outlier.

  • @landmansid
    @landmansid 2 года назад +10

    Another interesting question...Would a modern-day player have been able to hit back in the 1920's? No batting helmet, no batting gloves, no shin guard, no elbow armor, and pitchers willing to throw at the batters' heads. My guess is that most 2020 era players would not have lasted two games against the normal 1925 era pitcher.

    • @deepcosmiclove
      @deepcosmiclove 3 месяца назад +2

      Don't forget the heavy wool uniforms. Much better beer though!

    • @jeffhogg4297
      @jeffhogg4297 3 месяца назад +1

      Plus fewer off days, only day games, travel by train, nowhere near the advanced equipment to help recover, spit balls, balls used more, bats less scientifically designed...

    • @Gto1927
      @Gto1927 2 месяца назад

      Also the strike zone was knees to shoulders.

  • @daveferraro4009
    @daveferraro4009 2 года назад +6

    He learned his swing from Father Mathias at the orphanage as a boy, so not from Joe Jackson. He had far superior eye sight, coordination, hand strength, wrist strength and forward weight shift. His follow through was legendary. He would smack the hell out of any pitcher in any era - with the heavy bat and without much adjustment.

  • @hoodrowwilson
    @hoodrowwilson 2 года назад +4

    yes his swing is so heavy and vulnerable because of the size of the bat he chose to swing. to get all that weight around, he had to make a big motion, as you said. at the time, he knew he could hit the speeds the pitchers were throwing with any size bat, so he chose the heaviest he could possibly get through the zone. but in today's game, i think he could downsize his bat, shorten up a little bit, and be just fine. he was a professional hitter, maybe the best ever, so i trust that he'd find a way to adapt.

  • @100mphFastball
    @100mphFastball 2 года назад +15

    Babe Ruth’s swing is the most fundamentally correct swing ever. Mainly from his front leg stride starting location (all the way back). That puts all the weight on his back hip and gives him the maximum distance and energy moving forward. Doesn’t get any better than that.

    • @kaneman23
      @kaneman23 2 года назад +4

      Absolutely. He got his whole body into the hit. His mechanics would dominate the game today. Hitting has regressed for many reasons. Lighter bats are a big part of it.

    • @RatedRex1
      @RatedRex1 Год назад

      @@kaneman23 Lighter bats because the ball comes so fast. You couldn't swing a 42-ounce bat in today's MLB.

    • @RatedRex1
      @RatedRex1 Год назад +1

      No, it's not. He struck out more than anyone during his era. With all the things going on in his swing, he would strike out 200 times in today's MLB.

    • @100mphFastball
      @100mphFastball Год назад +1

      @@RatedRex1 as far as the kinetic energy he creates. He starts with both legs together and a bat tip. As far as energy creation goes, you can’t make more than that.

    • @mindpurge2270
      @mindpurge2270 Год назад

      @@RatedRex1 Really bad argument. You're using technique of today vs. equipment of his era. Ruth would be swinging a 35 oz bat (sorta like the bat Odor uses) but with much more power. His swing would be quicker and I'm sure a career .360 hitter (Babe Ruth) would "probably" figure out a quicker method for delivering his stance.
      He'd be a Cecil (or Prince) Fielder. Really big guy meant to hit homers and 115 mph line drives to the gaps.
      I'm sure Babe Ruth would adapt to todays biggest stuff.

  • @MsNantal
    @MsNantal 2 года назад +2

    Great analysis, Mr. A!
    With the modern tools that players have at their disposal today, The Babe would be every bit as good as he was in his own Era.
    He also was an awesome pitcher, which had to be a real advantage as a hitter. He would still have that today.
    Concerning an unusual stance, many of the greats, including Musial, Ichiro, Carew, Carl Yastremski, and so many others had their unique stance. The great ones make it work.

  • @briangulley6027
    @briangulley6027 2 года назад +19

    I watched a video of Ty Cobb's swing, as we know he help his hands apart, but once he stated his swing the top hand slid down and formed a regular grip. The rest of the swing looked "normal" and yes Cobb could hit it today's game. I agree they would need to make adjustments, but Cobb could still hit, 367 lifetime BA good no but still damn good.

    • @ravinkrishnan3183
      @ravinkrishnan3183 2 года назад

      Split grips look so cool

    • @Instramark
      @Instramark 2 года назад +12

      Great comment. When Cobb was asked what he would hit in 1955, he said ..
      .290. Really, only .290? The game is that good now? Cobb said no, it's because I am 70 years old!

    • @jayclarke9611
      @jayclarke9611 2 года назад

      Cobb what probably hit over .370 in today's game if they shifted him
      Bunt single,steal 2nd steal 3rd...score 160 runs w 120 steals...
      And he d strike out maybe 15 x.

  • @immigrationlawofficeofedwa2305
    @immigrationlawofficeofedwa2305 2 года назад +1

    He falls forward to set his momentum so as to not allow the ball to push him back or zap his strength thru the ball. The way he whips the bat forward and around, increasing velocity and angular momentum thru the zone, by pulling his lead elbow up and back. Great footage. Ichiro had a similar style actually, he leaned forward during the pitcher's wind up getting a head start.

  • @wukus1962
    @wukus1962 2 года назад +7

    Great hitters are big, strong, and most importantly stay in hitting zone for a long time. Babe Ruth demonstrates all of this. Therefore, yes, his swing is an elite swing. Clearly has good front side mechanics allowing his knob to work up early and and create backward barrel bath or swivel. I think people are misled by the barrel tip because he does achieve good early connection at toe tap. He’s using mechanics that I see many great hitters in today’s game don’t realize they have. Like Trout and Arod thinking they are swinging down to the ball. No they are not swinging down to the ball.

    • @sjjcws
      @sjjcws 2 года назад

      Nothing wrong with his swing. He copied Joe Jackson who, if playing today, would be the hands down best player in either League.

    • @patrickhopkins1498
      @patrickhopkins1498 2 года назад

      I'm seeing strong fast wrists. He keeps his hands close to the body. Not a lot of arm extension. May in part be related to the location of the pitches, but it is interesting that that's the way Hank Aaron generated power also. I'm guessing if you swing 42 ounces, your wrists will get awfully strong sooner or later.

  • @TheSharter
    @TheSharter 2 года назад +26

    re watch the first couple of swings and you can see him swinging his other bat. I cannot unsee this

    • @rumblebars
      @rumblebars 2 года назад +3

      Yeah, me also. Time to tie this into the recent "wearing a cup" discussion.

    • @evantoner5560
      @evantoner5560 2 года назад +2

      Jesus babe is packing heat

    • @culinarprime9903
      @culinarprime9903 2 года назад +2

      This. Lol.

    • @averagejoe2853
      @averagejoe2853 2 года назад +1

      Hilarious . Clearly the Little Bambino was also swinging for the fences.

  • @HeROsiNhEaVeN
    @HeROsiNhEaVeN 2 года назад +3

    Very good analysis and conclusion Coach Matt….I would whole heartedly agree with this….look what subtle adjustments took Jose Batista from a mediocre player to a home run killing machine….👍🏻💪🏻 ⚾️ 🇺🇸

  • @joshrobinson5616
    @joshrobinson5616 2 месяца назад

    This was really cool! Thanks for doing this! Like you said, if you get rid of the big pump and forward stride, it’s the same stroke.

  • @Instramark
    @Instramark 2 года назад +10

    The question is, could today's hitters hit back then? All day games, no specific batter's eye. Legal spitballs, dirty baseballs, unreal changeups, junkballers.
    Spiteful pitchers.
    Didn't need analytics, only 8 teams per league, all weaknesses were known.
    Thanks Matt for showing this and not crapping on the Babe. I have been watching MLB since 1967 and today's game is mostly unbearable to watch. Softball uppercut swings, 200 strikeouts, possible robo ump, replay, having to hear about the money endlessly, season way too long, playoffs unbearable and the worst of the worst...the DH...
    Matt, I rarely watch games anymore unless it's Bryce Harper, instead I just watch your channel when I need a fix!

    • @vladimirlopez7840
      @vladimirlopez7840 2 года назад

      As much as I love the games history but there is no comparison. I personally think Babe Ruth doesn’t even make it to the big leagues today. I think a a .220 hitter today is a superstar back then.

    • @danielmoore8695
      @danielmoore8695 2 года назад

      @@vladimirlopez7840 I agree, the pitching it just so much better today than back then. There's no way any of those hitters in that era could even touch today's pitching. Babe Ruth never hit against professional pitchers, he hit against farmers

    • @i.willacceptfood9352
      @i.willacceptfood9352 2 года назад

      Daniel Moore Vladimir Lopez, Pitching was different then but not necessarily worse. Remember the pitching mound was 15 inches high, not 10, the strike zone was letters to the knees, foreign substances were common, the bats were heavier, the ball wasn’t juiced, and the stadiums were larger.
      There was a dead-ball era for a reason. I doubt any of today’s hitters could do any better against 1920s pitching than the average player from that era did. That makes the babe’s numbers even more impressive not less.
      In 1920 he lead the league in HR with 54. 2nd place was 19. GOAT.

    • @HT-sm9dm
      @HT-sm9dm Год назад

      @@vladimirlopez7840you can literally smell the nasty generation Z sweat coming off your forehead dude. I grew up in the 90s and 00s. Nobody back then said such utterly asinine statements such as the ones you typed out there.
      It’s no wonder people from every other generation can relate to one another and then there’s you guys… who literally nobody can stand.

    • @HT-sm9dm
      @HT-sm9dm Год назад

      @@danielmoore8695you too. All your knowledge comes from video games and dumb 🍑 ESPN commentators oohing and aahing over exit velocity and spin rate. Never mind the fact that these things weren’t measured way back when, but let’s just state as a fact that they’re much better now because someone paid to market the game to r3tarded gen Z kids said so.

  • @brandonsheumaker2673
    @brandonsheumaker2673 2 года назад +2

    His footwork in this clip reminds me a lot of Wil Myers, the trail foot sliding forward at the end because of the weight transfer and the pure momentum of the swing.

  • @patdry
    @patdry 2 года назад +4

    Couldn’t help but notice the damn snake in his britches during that loop of his swing in the first minute of the video 😂 No surprise, the Babe was hung like a horse. Must have added some bonus momentum to his hips getting around/through the ball.

    • @Surfingolas1
      @Surfingolas1 2 года назад +2

      I was looking for this comment. Its hard to miss

  • @greggorsag9787
    @greggorsag9787 2 месяца назад

    What stands out to me is how exciting this must have been to watch. His mechanics are 100% committed to power; he is not trying to hit a single or just make contact. He has one goal, every time. That’s pretty much gone. Dave Kingman in the 70s, maybe, but he hit in the low 200s. That Ruth achieved the average he did with this approach is simply astounding and must have been amazing to watch.

  • @tomdavis6371
    @tomdavis6371 2 года назад +7

    He loads the bat just as Dick Allen, Ted Williams and Barry Bonds did and others do. He builds bat speed and power by getting the bat going. He'd be more than fine in todays game as the level of coaching has been specialized AND the money has become at such a level that I suspect he'd behave quite a bit better on the dietary agenda. He'd have had to hit the weights a bit and do some conditioning. Modern day players seldom get fat or come to camp out of shape anymore. It used to be common for them to get to spring training fat and out of shape.

    • @Instramark
      @Instramark 2 года назад

      Well said. Been loving MLB for 60 years. The lore of the present day game is absent. Too many games and all under the microscope. Just drenched with it.
      I like the days of the daily sports page and the box scores, a copy of Smith and Street's season preview and the yearly copy of Who's Who in Baseball......and the Game of the Week. All you need.

    • @rayrussell6258
      @rayrussell6258 2 года назад +1

      @@Instramark Wouldn't hurt the MLB game to cancel about 10 franchises, and set them up as the new AAA level for the league. Talent just isn't there to support all these MLB teams today.

  • @Mrgood189
    @Mrgood189 11 месяцев назад

    I started doing the same load up in Slowpitch softball. Its taken my power to another level

  • @aarond23
    @aarond23 2 года назад +3

    These type of debates are one of the greatest thing about baseball, could 'all time great' play in todays game? Fun to debate.

  • @dogpatch75
    @dogpatch75 2 года назад +2

    The "negative move" or "loading" phase of his overall swing is his own, as it is with any good hitter. However, as his front foot touches and his hands begin to launch the bat toward the ball, the important rotation phase of his swing begins. This where biomechanics and physics kick in and he looks strikingly like every other good hitter. When critiquing a swing, one must isolate the loading phase from the actual swing itself. Hitters personalize what they do during their stance and loading in order to be comfortable and prepare for rotation. Once rotation begins, physics dictates what must happen to be able to effectively hit a ball. To be a superior hitter your body must figure out the physics. Most folks look at Babe's swing and just see the strange stuff he does prior to rotation. What counts is what he does during rotation. Babe would absolutely be able to hit well in today's environment.

  • @pete7504
    @pete7504 2 года назад +3

    Very analogy Matt.
    I thought The Babe was a big strong guy , that can crutch the ball far.

  • @fidge54
    @fidge54 2 года назад +1

    Love to see a breakdown of Paul Molitor's swing, probably the fastest most compact I ever saw in person

  • @squirreljam2240
    @squirreljam2240 2 года назад +8

    Would love a break down of Hammering Hank's swing.

  • @metaphoria3
    @metaphoria3 Год назад

    You know what stands out to me
    that SOUND 💥🔥⚾️

  • @thienvu8120
    @thienvu8120 2 года назад +3

    Ted Williams said no one would hit .400 again because of the slider. All we can do is look at the raw mechanics. Excellent analysis.

    • @joecoolmccall
      @joecoolmccall 2 месяца назад

      I know this is a two year old comment, but did they not have sliders back then? Is it really such a new invention?

    • @thienvu8120
      @thienvu8120 2 месяца назад

      @@joecoolmccall In the 40s they did not. He made this quote in the 70s I believe.

  • @davidtitorivera
    @davidtitorivera 7 месяцев назад

    There’s a lot of swing from different players I like from their own batting stances. My favorite batting stance of all time is Julio Franco, I love to imitate it for a long time and i’m also a switch hitter. I also tried to do Mickey Tettleton’s as well

    • @Phatooine
      @Phatooine 6 месяцев назад

      Speaking of Julio Franco. It makes me think of Jim Kaat. And the reason for that is Jim Kaat is the only pitcher to face both Ted Williams and Julio Franco. Williams started his career in 1939 and Franco retired in 2007. That's a 68 year gap. And Ted Williams faced many of the same pitchers Babe Ruth faced. And at the time of Franco's retirement in 2007, there are still players playing today that played in 2007.
      So when people talk about how certain players from certain eras can't compete in the modern game, I say BS.

  • @thomascrowley9122
    @thomascrowley9122 2 года назад +3

    Best player to ever step on a diamond

  • @marcusbennett8073
    @marcusbennett8073 2 года назад +2

    Gary Sheffield crazy bat movement

  • @charleshsieh8799
    @charleshsieh8799 2 года назад +8

    According to Baseball Reference, Babe Ruth has the highest W.A.R. in baseball history. Thereby, he is the best player in MLB's history.

    • @pohorex6834
      @pohorex6834 2 года назад +2

      He’s the best player in comparison to his era. That doesn’t make him the most talented, nor the best in general. Just Best Buy comparison of the era he lived.

    • @my2l
      @my2l 2 года назад +1

      jesse owens ran 10.3 in 1936 and was the fastest man alive, now he would be beat by many high school boys lol, no one ever says owens is the greatest sprinter of all time now do they? best in an era doesn't mean best in history.

  • @Filterite5
    @Filterite5 Месяц назад

    Wow, that’s such a great analysis. Great job

  • @jimbrady735
    @jimbrady735 2 года назад +3

    Also would like to point out that Ruth played a big part of his career during the dead ball era and hit homeruns despite this handicap.

    • @MikeSmith-ym9eq
      @MikeSmith-ym9eq 2 года назад +1

      Ruth and the 1919 Black Sox are the very reason for using a live ball.

    • @nicksatwr4538
      @nicksatwr4538 2 года назад

      He was only a hitter for. 1 yeer in desd ball era hit. 27 home runs

  • @MiguelRodriguez-us8ud
    @MiguelRodriguez-us8ud 2 года назад +2

    Very good video quality.

  • @CatholicBaseball8
    @CatholicBaseball8 2 года назад +4

    We are talking about the greatest hitter of all time. I think bat weight would be the only adjustment he would make in todays game. Ruth's eye was phenomenal has he walked over 700 more times that striking out. The only player comparable to him in 2022 would be Juan Soto.

  • @johnreynolds6499
    @johnreynolds6499 2 года назад +1

    I helped several young batters by loading up on every pitch. Treat every pitch as hittable. That's a head start. When you see its hittable, continue your swing, if not, hold off. By doing that, you have time to better see the ball.

  • @a2zme
    @a2zme 2 года назад +5

    The notion that great athletes would not 'adapt' to the modern game is ridiculous. Babe Ruth would be an All Star today as well.

  • @flannelblindllama
    @flannelblindllama 2 года назад

    Agree with you completely. Not only the adjustments you mentioned, but give him video scouting, swing analytics, 100 years of coaching/technique refinements and all the advantages players have today he absolutely rakes. The raw skills are clearly there.
    If you simply pluck him of course he’ll struggle because he wouldn’t have the advantages players have today. Even the training/advancement field he’ll prove why he’s the goat.

  • @Greasyspleen
    @Greasyspleen 2 года назад +4

    I find that in any clip from before like 1975, the swings look really slow. I assume it's just because the bat is heavy.

    • @evantoner5560
      @evantoner5560 2 года назад

      Watch old football or basketball clips and they look like they’re running in slow motion sometimes. It’s a camera thing

    • @Ryan-cb1ei
      @Ryan-cb1ei 2 года назад

      I think you’re both right. Less frames and heavier bats. Bats today are lighter and hit better

  • @damonmullins7082
    @damonmullins7082 2 года назад +1

    Buck O’Neil used to talk about that special sound of ball hitting bat that he only heard three times in his life - Babe Ruth, Josh Gibson, Bo Jackson. That cant be faked. I think he would adjust his stance & timing. Still be special

  • @stephentoto6564
    @stephentoto6564 2 года назад +8

    Don't forget Babe Ruth was incredibly strong,no doubt he would hit in todays game,just like Walter Johnson,Cy Young,Matheson could pitch today,all it takes is an adjustment in mechanics.

    • @Matt_Fields_29
      @Matt_Fields_29 2 года назад +3

      How much stronger would he be if he did modern strength and nutrition training?
      Back in his day baseball players just ate what everyone else was eating, and going to the weight room was just optional.

    • @metaphoria3
      @metaphoria3 Год назад

      @@Matt_Fields_29nimally same with modern players that’s a lil exaggerated hitting a baseball is like armwrestling it’s about explosive quick twitch muscle you either have or you don’t a strong hand wrist forearm setup same with baseball and strong tendons that’s why guys like Curtis Granderson can weigh 150lbs while using the heaviest bat in the game hitting tanks

  • @Americancadet
    @Americancadet 2 года назад +1

    I play ‘recreated’ baseball the way it was played in the 1800s. Bats were much bigger; as stated you need to do something to get it going. Pitching was also slower.

  • @100mphFastball
    @100mphFastball 2 года назад +6

    Babe Ruth was so far ahead of his time, he would hit 97 homers every year.

  • @fredkruse9444
    @fredkruse9444 2 года назад +1

    Agree 1000%. I've been a huge Ruth fan for over 50 years, but he developed his "Happy Gilmore" swing to hit 1920s pitching that averaged < 3 k per 9 innnings pitched! (As Stengel would have said, "You can look it up!") No way they were throwing 95.

  • @kchall5
    @kchall5 2 года назад +3

    Great hitters are great hitters, regardless of their mechanics. A great hitter from yesteryear, Royals' legend George Brett, comes to mind. He became a disciple of a guy name Walt Hriniak, and developed a looping yet smooth swing that others tried but were unsuccessful. Hriniak's hitting theories were largely proven ineffective, but Brett was able to succeed with them (or in spite of them) simply because of great ability.

    • @careygreen4274
      @careygreen4274 2 года назад

      Brett was a disciple of Charlie Lau, and George Brett had a beautiful swing

    • @kchall5
      @kchall5 2 года назад

      @@careygreen4274 You may be right, but my point is that I could have been Brett's hitting coach and he would have raked. And I don't know jack s#$t about hitting.

  • @J.R.Carrel
    @J.R.Carrel Год назад

    Pictures in his era we're up on it elevated Mound which allowed them to put the ball at greater angles

  • @Bambino_60
    @Bambino_60 2 года назад +3

    Swarber bats identical to Babe Ruth

    • @jasontorres6519
      @jasontorres6519 2 года назад +1

      I agree completely with this

    • @kenkaplan3654
      @kenkaplan3654 6 месяцев назад

      Yes i brought up Schwarber too. Except Ruth was a better hitter for average.

  • @jasoncollier3145
    @jasoncollier3145 Месяц назад

    What seems to be often overlooked about the Babe is the simplicity of hand eye coordination. He was not only a fantastic hitter carrying a lifetime .341 batting average while hitting for power, he was also a dominate pitcher and an excellent bowler. The timing of his mechanics and the ability to wield a heavy bat bio mechanically in todays game would require some adjustment. However, one thing is common among all great power hitters who also hit for average. They are able to keep their hands through the zone as they drive with their lower half for leverage. The Babe did that. He would be able to use a lighter bat today and square the ball of a power pitcher which is all you need to hit for distance. His hand eye coordination would be the arc between the softer tossing league he played in compared to the power arms of today.

  • @mogg9408
    @mogg9408 22 дня назад

    Ted Williams vision was 20/10. He learned that in military physical basically steering him to becoming a pilot in ww2, and korea. Im a Fmr usmc vet so yah also a huge Advocate for ted being the greatest hitter of all time. I never saw a report on the babe's vision. I'd bet it was better than 20/20. And his eye hand coordination was insane swinging the pole he used. Asshats that compare him with modern day analytics , are leaving out the facts, that 1, his talent would have been caught on to very, very early in his career, and he would have only been better from it. 2. They would not have wasted his first few years as a pitcher. Although he was a top ace in his day as a pitcher, his bat far out weighed the potential production lost for being a pitcher. And 3rd but certainly not least homeruns were not even a particularly big time stat, until the babe, made it so. Being the hr leader of a team as a pitcher, says it all. the ones that compare modern day athletes to ones like the babe, while ignoring what they may have done with modern day benefits are completely ignorant. If the next ted williams, and or babe comes up to the league one day, he will crush all records... including the steroid cheating crews. Imo we may never see another babe, or ted, as the love of the game does not exist as high as it did in their day. just my 2 cents. imo humbly, we will never see another babe or ted. the new youth of america have other passions, of which baseball isnt one of them.

  • @waymanjohnson4100
    @waymanjohnson4100 2 года назад

    First I have to say that Babe Ruth was a great guy and the fans of all eras are gonna love him if they watch much footage of him speaking.
    With his closed swing, his stride forward causes his eye level to change. Thats why he had so many strike outs, that and that big bat. Mark McGuire had the perfect swing, he used a very wide stance and just lifted his front foot as a timing mechanism. Ruth didn't care about average and just getting a base hit. He swung for the Fassad, that is what the owner wanted him to do, because his homeruns is what brought the fans to the ballpark. Yea he could have hit todays pitchers but he would have adapted his swing and his bat and became a team player. He was a really good ball player. Its the footage from his last few years that causes us to think of him as an over weight guy that wouldn't fit in todays game. He may not have hit 714 but he'd have hit 600 in todays game.

  • @kenkaplan3654
    @kenkaplan3654 6 месяцев назад

    Ruth apparently used a 42 inch bat early in his career but switched to a 36 or 38 inch. Because the wood was denser it weighed around 40 oz. What strikes me about Ruth's swing is it's compact coil and release of power, and the quickness yet velocity of his stroke. It's an incredibly coherent, yet powerful swing.
    Ruth would be an elite power hitter in today's game. The player he reminds me of is Bryce Harper in that same coil and Kyle Schwarber. Ruth had tremendous bat speed and upper body strength. His velocity off the bat topped off around 115 mph.
    I think he would consistently hit 40-50 HR because he had exceptional hand eye coordination but his BA would be lower, around .280-.310.
    Elite talents will thrive in any era.

  • @majik2hanz
    @majik2hanz 2 года назад

    A key element no one mentioned is the simple fact players in Ruth's era, based on the pitching style and management of pitchers, had ability to bat against an individual pitcher many more times. He faced 7 other teams in the regular season in an era of smaller pitching staffs, and less pitching changes - 22 times! If you think about the total number of individually different pitchers one batter may bat against in one season in today's era this is why the overall ability of one player to excel is so much more difficult.
    As to Ruth's ability to hit in any era, everything is relative to the overall style of play. With his inherent skill set (hand eye coordination, power and ability to adapt and adjust his swing) along with adjustments to training for 'fitness' he would still excel. The total variance of pitchers one batter may see today, along with the variance in 'pitch types' makes the technology of observing film so much more important. Ruth in today's era, would likely bat about .310-320 with 45-50 hrs, 120 walks, have a slash line of 320 / 440 / 660 and lead in OPS, w 150 SO.

  • @beachwelcome
    @beachwelcome 2 года назад

    Ruth's belt buckle is tilted slightly down throughout the swing. His hip motion is perfectly balanced and provides great rotation and rib cage turn throughout the swing. His left elbow drops into the slot and his wrists are creating lag. It's the lag and the snap with rib cage turn that make the explosion happen in excellent balance. Ruth would have been able to drive a golf ball as far as anyone. We already know he could hit a baseball as far any one. He would be a world class hitter in today's baseball.

  • @looselatigo
    @looselatigo 2 года назад

    Some years back I knew a gentleman named Luther "Red" Harvel. Red was a retired scout for the As and I believe one or two other teams. He also had a lengthy, mostly minor league career, as a player including one season with Cleveland in 1928 where he played against Ruth. He was very impressed with the man, and not just his hitting. He commented that he was faster afoot than some might think and that is was not a good idea to challenge his arm. He was of the opinion that Ruth could have starred in the game of the 1980s when I knew him. He was a lot of fun to talk to.

  • @Julioavr83
    @Julioavr83 Год назад

    I didn't play for long time, just some years during my youth, but my longest homerun was trying to emulate this swing, i used to open my legs and put my bat very back over my shoulders, i remember a pitcher throwing the ball very fast so i decided to put my legs next to each other and the bat almost in front of me, so i just went against the ball and the result was a monster homerun by the center field!!!.

  • @steveramer2296
    @steveramer2296 Год назад

    Very cool. I noticed that Babe had a little hip turn in his load but virtually no backward load.

  • @dalepress1581
    @dalepress1581 Год назад +1

    Modern day hitters arguing anyone in the past couldn't play today is laughable when you consider EVERY rule change in baseball since 1960 has been designed to assist hitters. The practical elimination of the high strike has produced a hitting style that would not exist in any other era prior to 1995. Rotational, launch angle, back foot hitting BS would not be possible in the high strike era. So the fact of the matter is, none of these hitters today would be worth a rat's azz in Ruth's era. Anyone wanting to compare their self to Ruth needs to take a 48 hour train ride to Cleveland, head straight to the bar and get black out drunk, wake up the next morning next to two honeysuckle scented skanks, be taken to the nearest hospital to promise a terminally ill boy he'll hit a home run in today's game, head to the ballpark, down 4 beers and 6 hotdogs, grab a 53 oz bat, put on a wool cap, step in the box and proceed to hit 3 dingers, calling the last one. Maybe then you'll have an argument.

  • @thadpoehl858
    @thadpoehl858 Месяц назад

    What makes great players great? They adapt. And they find the path to greatness. We can vainly declare how advanced or refined we are when players like the Babe fashioned the game into the enduring sport it became. What was the Babe's ERA in World Series appearances? Where is he on that all-time list? The fact that you have been driven to do this video just declares the amount of hubris we are now filled with and how little regard we have for the shoulders we stand upon.

  • @michaeljozwiak5716
    @michaeljozwiak5716 2 года назад +1

    Babe Ruth’s hands swing back into the launching pad (Charlie Lau). His hips slightly leads the shoulders. Looks like Ruth has good bat speed.

  • @brianmack2950
    @brianmack2950 8 дней назад

    Babe was exceptional during his generation and if he played now, he would be exceptional now. If you gave him the training that the players now have he’d be doing what he did back then as well. In fact statistically, I agree with the person who said he’d be hitting 80+ home runs a year with 1200 for his career. That kind of dominance over his peers is unmatched today. He led the majors in home runs 11 seasons out of his career. In those 11 seasons, he hit 493 home runs. If you add up the second placed Homerun hitter for those same seasons, the total is 315 home runs. He’s hitting about 156% more than the next in line for those 11 seasons.
    In 2023 the top Homerun hitter had 54 home runs. The next in line had 47. If we were to apply the same percentages as Babe Ruth, then the next in line would have 34 home runs.

  • @brianshepardson9756
    @brianshepardson9756 2 месяца назад

    Agree with much of your analysis. People who think pitchers just started throwing hard have no clue. In 1957 a minor leaguer named Glen Gorbous threw a baseball 135.89m (445 feet, 10 inches). in an exhibition before a game. The record Still stands. Also, I would like to see how todays hitters would do in the old days without a helmet, or elbow shield. .

  • @mark11967AD
    @mark11967AD 2 года назад +1

    The info is probably out there, but I wonder what velocity he was seeing back in the day and did they change much from his early career to mid and later years. Excellent analysis. Well done and entertaining idea/video. Thanks.

    • @lawrenceehrbar8667
      @lawrenceehrbar8667 2 года назад

      Pitchers can't do as much as other athletes to throw all that much harder. A little but not all that much. Most can't throw close to one-hundred for more five innings, and the ones that do? Half are out with injuries the next year. Tom Seaver? Never had arm issues. He was a "drop and drive" pitcher. It was ALL in his legs. He did have sone minor sciatica issues but only cost him a few months in his tenth season or so.Yeah, the year he struck out 200 for like the eighth straight time (a record). I think his season ended affer the 201 strikeout. Pitchers tire late in games when it is their "legs" that tire. That's why they do those wind-sprints in the outfield during batting-practice .

  • @lawrencemarocco8197
    @lawrencemarocco8197 2 года назад +1

    I remember an interview with Henry Aaron when he was closing in on Ruth's career HR record. Aaron was handed the bat Ruth used in 1927 which is too long and heavy under today's rules. He took a couple of swings with it and remarked about the strength of Ruth to get the bat around on pitches. He also pointed out that most of the bat was solid hitting area. Keep in mind, Ted Williams is the man who started the current trend of fat barreled, thin-handled bats and emphasis on bat speed instead of strength.

    • @gregb6469
      @gregb6469 2 года назад +1

      When Williams played [40s & 50s] there were a lot more fireballing pitchers with 90+mph fastballs than there were in the 20s when Ruth played, so bat speed was more important.

    • @mattsowder7978
      @mattsowder7978 2 года назад

      There's no rules about bat size in MLB. Know what you are talking about before you leave a comment.

  • @plus790
    @plus790 2 года назад +1

    The swing looks jarring to modern viewers, but as you started to get into around the 8:00 minute mark, after the initial and exaggerated stride, he reaches a completely recognizably modern hitting position. Yes, GHR would need to make adjustments, but not as drastic as people think. And while he would likely strike out more (the man never struck out 100 times in a season), I think the power numbers would remain intact--remember that modern stadiums are significantly smaller. Instead of a .340 80 strikeout player, I imagine a .300 140K version, still hitting 50+HR per year.

  • @richardsmith2289
    @richardsmith2289 5 месяцев назад

    His swing is interesting because he gets so much weight moving toward the ball. It's a long swing and it looks like he makes contact with the ball fairly early which might take away any late movement. Ty Cobbs is also interesting because his method of getting the bat moving was to slide his hands together. I have always been impressed with Mark McGwire's swing because it was so compact and so quick.

  • @DonCarlosHormozi
    @DonCarlosHormozi 2 года назад

    Beautiful upper cut swing!!!!

  • @TheGlass50
    @TheGlass50 Месяц назад

    Whatever adjustments that need to be made, in regards to his mechanics, he would make them. At the core of his greatness is his hand/eye coordination. A reporter asked him how can you hit Walter Johnson’s fastball because it’s going so fast. His reply was “not to me“.

  • @Tevatron044
    @Tevatron044 2 года назад

    I have adapted his swing and with his style for my own style. It allows you to swing a lot of weight very quickly, which is good for long ball hitting. The hardest part is getting the timing down, but once you get it, you can easily catch up to any pitching. I have been able to catch up to D1 fastpitch girls playing when i get the timing down

  • @johnrubin3147
    @johnrubin3147 2 года назад

    My 96 year old Dad saw all these players. He was a Brooklyn Dodgers fan but saw Ruth and Gehrig in the 30s. The myth that pitchers didn’t throw hard is simply untrue. They threw 90 plus even then. He told me that Ruth himself probably threw 90. They couldn’t touch him. Baseball wasn’t watered down like today. Only the best players made it to the big club. As for his hitch, Barry Bonds and Gary Scheffield come to mind. Another was Dave Parker. All guys with big hitches and huge strides. All power guys. Baseball is about timing and weight transfer. As long as your hands are strong and in a level or slightly upward position as your pivot point of contact has all of the weight timed as contact is made out in front of the plate, anything done prior to that makes no difference. There are plenty of payers with a busy stance instead of a still one.

  • @bryonrobinson3566
    @bryonrobinson3566 2 года назад +1

    Enjoy whenever you post I enjoy your content

  • @donphilp7511
    @donphilp7511 Год назад

    Several advantages. The running start. His ability to plant his front foot what anywhere in the Box which gives him a Is better selection of angle to the incoming ball. And that fluid energy release because he had a fluid energy start. Also his head is not static. His head and eyes are moving forward. In other words his eyes are in a dynamic focus mode rather than a static focus mode. All of this started because he stood at the back of the box with a speak together. He in fact was a tradesman. There is the way of doing things that is taught and the instructions given. However a tradesman knows from my chat from experience That there are subtleties in a better way to do the same Is job With more alacrity and style Well doing the job a better and getting a better result. The other mistake is that everybody is thinking. He is starting his move when the pitcher releases the ball. It's probably not the case. He's gaining milliseconds by starting at the back of the box and doing a running start. Yes he good be the best today because today he would have had better nutrition better training better batts, Better Cleets., Better travel arrangements. And a better bouncy ball if you get my drift😂