Let’s Talk About Babe Ruth
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- Is Babe Ruth the GOAT?
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Fences were much further out than the homerun fended in today’s ball parks.
But when you consider he played the same 8 teams like 19 times a season going against the same pitcher for all 9 innings throwing 80 mph, his stats make more sense
Babe Ruth, the Sultan of Swat is the greatest baseball player of all time.
It’s crazy how in most sports we don’t talk about anyone for the 1930s but everyone knows babe Ruth. Legends never die
Nobody is close to Ruth.
@@dondunbar3386 that's a lie Josh Gibson and Hank Aaron broke his records
One of the records from ruth that won't be broken is he pitched 14 innings in a world series game in 1918 and by the way he won that game.
Yeah and it was a shutout and the longest game pitched in playoff history. I believe it was against the Brooklyn Robins .
That 14 innings was part of his 29 and 2/3rds consecutive scoreless innings in the World Series.. A record that stood until 1962 (Whitey Ford)..
What's amazing that in 2022 we are still talking about Babe Ruth!
That says something.
❤️ babe Ruth brilliant baseball hitter & player
He was the greatest player of all time
Not was is the greatest baseball player of all time we
@@user-iv9er3nr6z that's what I meant
The best stat to show how dominant and game-changing Ruth was is:
In 1920, Babe Ruth hit 54 home runs. Not counting the Yankees, Only one other TEAM - the Philadelphia Phillies, hit more than 50 Home Runs that year. (The St. Louis Browns hit exactly 50)
Hits more HRs by himself than entire teams do lol.
He also use the bat that was 50 ounces compared to people nowadays playing with 34s that makes a huge difference also the ballfields weren’t near his long back then and players didn’t have near the skill sets like pictures you had nowhere near as many good pictures in 1920 then you do in today’s modern era baseball and Mark Maguire hit 70 something home runs in one season I believe But then again he was also on steroids
@@jacksonhubbard8039 The Polo Grounds was 485 ft to dead center and 450 feet to the power alleys when Ruth hit 50 in 1920. It was short right down the lines, but death to play balls everywhere else. The New York Giants, who shared the Polo Grounds with the Yankees that year also hit fewer Home Runs as a team than Ruth hit himself.
And you think it's easier to swing a heavier bat? The bats today have way more pop and are far more accurately machined than the bats back then. (He used a 38-42oz bat with an extremely thick handle compared to modern bats, for the record, not 50oz). He needed the extreme bat because the ball didn't fly like today's juiced balls.
If it was so easy, why did he hit more homers than all but two teams? The 2021 equivalent would be a player hitting 239 Home Runs.
@@Brashnir it was 50 oz you know nothing about baseball or babe Ruth 😂
@@jacksonhubbard8039 Even if that was true (It's not) How does that make anything easier?
Go ahead, take BP with a 50oz bat milled to 1920 standards, and then a 32-oz bat made today, and see which one is easier to hit the ball hard with.
Remember that Bonds was loaded with Steroids......Babe with Beer.
🍺 beer & 🌭 hotdogs babe Ruth diet ,😊
I used to skip school to go watch Bonds play in the late 80’s.. He was good, I couldn’t miss him when the Pirates were in town..
Makes sense, best player without the roids, is gonna be the best player on the roids.. Such is life..
Barry bond was a super brilliant baseball hitter & players, it his very long prime hitting career Barry bond was unpitchable& it was like Barry bond was almost a switch hitter
And womanizing
@@harlow743 Barry bond had steroid in his urine , babe Ruth was imagine if babe Ruth could've eat at 5 star restaurants before every game , fancy ✈️ airplane & hotels he could've had 800 homeruns , instead of hotdogs & beer diet
None of those guys did what Ruth did. He is the greatest of the great.
The Babe hit more homers in less at bats than anyone else at any total up to his 714. He set nearly every record that could be broke not counting pitching records. Mainly, no one else in any sport ever dominated their game in their time period head and shoulders above the rest and unlike the rest who people talk about being the best, there was nothing "arguable" about Babe's dominance and the best thing is, he did all those things without the use of steroids. He was, still is, and will always be the GOAT.
👍😁
All these top comments and not a one mentioning that Ruth also still leads the all time WAR leaderboard and always will because his own skillset was just so far ahead of the other players of his era.
Amen , and I would take Bonds off any list ,he belongs in the hall of shame ,But even he was juiced up he still could not rival the Babe
facts
Babe was the only six tool player.(Run, hit, field, throw, hit for power, pitch.) He dominated against 42 hall of famers(20 pitchers, 22 hitters). That is the MLB record to this day.
Ohtani has all 6 of those tools, is a way better pitcher and runs the bases better lol also been doing all of this at once for years. Other than the fact that he DH’s
the 5 tools are also
Speed/Baserunnung
Hitting for average
Hitting for power
Fielding
Throwing
@@HoodieDTGet lost with that dude. He is not even close! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha 😅😂😂😅
@@HoodieDTbetter pitcher? Um, no. Ruth long held the record for consecutive scoreless innings pitched in the World Series. His lifetime ERA was 2.28. After not pitching for 15 years, he pitched an complete game win in 1934 at age 39:
@@HankFinkle11 look at Ruth and Ohtani’s pitching stats when adjusted for era lol, Ohtani blows him out of the water in literally everything lmao. Ruth also, was NOT throwing above 90 lmao, Ohtani can 102-3 on a good day, Ruth does not have 6+ pitches and did not develop an entire pitch the next day to try it in a game and had it become insanely effective lmao. Ruth was a hero, Ruth is one of my favorite players, but we have to give it up lol, he was a two way for 2-3 years at most and (as much as I hate this argument) played literal plumbers and firemen lmao
@@HankFinkle11 2021 Shohei Ohtani: 3.18 ERA
1918 Ruth: 2.22 ERA
So that’s it, Ruth MUST be better right?
No lol
The AL ERA back then was almost a run and some change lower back then lol
Ruth finished with a 122 ERA+
Ohtani with a 141 lol
= Ohtani better pitcher relative to his era and environment of runs.
This is also before the live ball era, therefore giving Ruth a FURTHER advantage and he still barely compares
On the two way facet, Ruth NEVER had a two way season like Ohtani has, because he can’t also steal bases, Ohtani is extremely fast lmao, Ruth has also NEVER had a pitch like Shohei’s splitter
Stop looking at basic numbers and fairy tales and trying to force us to make a conclusion on that
He could’ve had 900-1000 homeruns if he was a hitter at 20. That’s 5 years of no hitting and he still became the goat
OTOH, he probably would've been a HOF caliber pitcher if he stuck with that.
or way fewer if he hadn't only played against white players.
@@darwinwins He would’ve adjusted against any race. He also batted .500 against Negro players in 16 exhibition games.
He would have had more, but 900-1000 in the dead ball era? I'm not so sure.
@@darwinwins Well the highest career batting average EVER is by Ty Cobb, oh by the way he was white. So your racist comment holds no water.
The greatest of all time just looking at his career slugging percentage and OPS is just absolutely insane lol
Some years ago I knew a man named Luther "Red" Harvel. Red was a retired major league scout who played a season with the Indians back in 1928. Ruth made quite an impression on him. He told me that "you'd be surprised at just how fast he could run" and "you didn't go for an extra base against his arm." The second sounds like the voice of experience.
The Babe is the only player to hit over 500 home runs and steal home 10 times. Even Ty Cobb who didn’t like the way Ruth changed the game from the dead ball era, said he runs fast for a fat man.
To accurately compare, you'd have to put Babe Ruth in the modern game, in modern times---in other words, growing up in the 1980s or 90s with the advances in conditioning, nutrition, and baseball specific training. Also air travel compared to rolling around on trains. Conversely, someone like Ohtani or Bonds would have to be put in Ruths' era, with no one throwing 100MPH, but lacking the advances mentioned above. Long story short, it's next to impossible to compare players from different eras. You COULD argue Ruth dominated his era like no one since has.
I’m glad someone finally brought this to light. The only true comparison between players in different era’s is how well did they do against others of their same time. Not only modern players benefit from advancements from the the past. But how well would they have done without those advancements if they played in a previous era. My guess is that if you took players from any era and put they in another era with all the advantages/disadvantages, the probably would have the same level of relative greatest comparison of the era they played in. That said Babe Ruth was unbelievable so far ahead of his contemporaries. I don’t think we will ever see that again.
There were similar players like Babe Ruth. Gehrig and Hank Greenberg. Greenberg hit 58 HR one year. Also had a 184 RBI season. Three seasons lost to WW2.
People focus way too much on velocity to demean the past. Movement matters way more. It's no coincidence that the pitcher with the most wins since the mound was lowered was Greg Maddux.
I disagree totally. The greatest players would be great in any era. Babe’s career had overlaps with guys who played with Mickey Mantle. Mickey Mantle had overlaps with guys who played with Griffey Jr and on and on. 🤷🏻♂️
And spitballs etc. were legal in Ruth's era.
Imagine if he played in todays ballparks with the live ball! Easily over 1000 homers
He ain’t touching near 500 with pitching level of today
Oh forgot to mention this. Ruth had around 4,000 less at bats than Aaron did and yet only 41 less home runs. I took Ruth home run per at bat for his career, which is around 11.8 I think, divided it into the at bat differences between the two and if Ruth had as many at bats as Aaron did, he would have hit something like 1,048 home runs. Can't remember exactly what the numbers were but those are pretty close. Not to take anything away from Aaron at all. He was an amazing player. Seen him 5 times and that SOB (joking of course) never hit a home run at the game I was at but every time hit one the next day. One time he hit 2. Hit probably the highest popup I have ever seen. Way above the top of Dodger Stadium. Bottomline and no question about it, Babe Ruth was the GOAT for baseball.
He never saw a slider, a pitch north of 85, or black people
@@johnjohnsonjohntrue, but modern players never/almost never faced a spitball.
@@johnjohnsonjohnThe knickle curve was the slider. And these players never saw a shine ball, screwball, mudball, vaseline ball, or any other assortment of crazy pitches they had back then.
@@johnjohnsonjohnHe faced Walter Johnson, who threw well north of 85, and he faced plenty of knuckle and screwball pitchers, something you hardly see at all today. And here's a dirty little secrer: most of the breaking balls existed in that time, too, but nobody bothered to name them.
The umpires had a bigger strike zone in that era. The batters had to cut down on their swing with a two strike count. Something modern major leaguers don't do. The modern players mostly swing for the fences instead of trying to get the ball in play.
Yes, he is. By far.
Not only that, he was the best left-handed *PITCHER* in the league for 4 years with a lifetime ERA of 2.28!
Babe Ruth would be my first pick on any All-time baseball team. He hit for power and battling average better than anyone who has ever played the game.
He hit .340 when the league avg was .260
Wow
He went against milk workers!!!!
@@justvibing2497 like today? the influencers 😂😂
@@justvibing2497fewer MLB teams. More farm clubs. Better competition.
Babe is, absolutely.
Here is a question that really can't be answered. When Gehrig joined the team in 1925, Ruth I think only led the team in RBI's one time after that. Ruth would get his 140, 150 and even 160 RBI's one year. Everybody knows that Ruth batted 3rd and Gehrig batted 4th. The question is, how in the hell can someone get more RBI's year in and year out batting behind someone who got 140, 150 and 160 year in and year out? How is that even possible? How many times has anybody had just 140 RBI's in a season in the last 50 years? Probably can count on them with just one hand. Ruth did it several times but not only didn't he lead the league, he didn't even lead the Yankees. Batting behind someone who has 140+ RBI's usually means no one was on base when Gehrig came up and yet he would always have more. In 1927, Ruth had 164 and Gehrig had 173. 337 RBI's from just 2 guys in one 154 game season. That is insane. Even more insane. Ruth in 1921, his best season ever, had 170 RBI and scored 177 runs. Add those up and subtracted his 59 home runs that season and you get 288. That season Ruth was responsible for 288 runs. He either scored it or knocked it in. One guy, 288 runs because of him. Along with his 59 home runs, he had 46 doubles and 16 triples giving him 121 extra base hits that year. I am not exactly sure, but the year Gehrig set the American league record for RBI, which I think is 184. I think he scored enough runs to break Ruths 288. Those two guys were totally insane. I could be wrong but I think 6 guys on the 27 Yankees had over 100 RBI's. So that means the 27 Yankees must have scored over 1,000 runs that season. People talk about this era or that era and I say, " Who the f..k cares what era!!!!!!" Nothing like Ruth and even Gehrig has been seen in any era. Two of the best hitters ever and they batted 3 and 4 in the lineup and on their backs. Does anything in sports come close to matching something like that? Ahhhhhh NOPE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I think Hack Wilson has the RBI record and it’s like 191 or 193 or something
Ruth got on base 276 times in 1927, not counting his home runs. And with Gehrig hitting for extra bases 117 times, it didn't even matter which base Ruth was on, he was going to score! Still, it was some clutch hitting from Gehrig to drive in so many.
Yes, the Babe is
Without a doubt!
Ohtani has nothing on the Babe
Bob feller would've put a 🕳 hole in ohtani bat with Bob feller faster than speeding bullet fastball, Bob feller would've strike out ohtani on three pitches
Ruth created Goats
He is the 🐐
RUTH IS THE G.O.AT!🐐☝️👑
Patterned his swing after the great Joe Jackson
Yes, of course he is the best ever.
No bouts adoubt it.
Ruth smoked cigars, ate anything he wanted, and still set records that weren’t broken for decades. Not to mention that most of those records were broken by people who had spent more time in the league.
And likely on steroids
@@ravensflockmate It’s not likely. It is rumored that he injected himself with testosterone extracted from sheep testicles because it was a newer and untested practice no one really understood yet. It reportedly made him very sick and the Yankees excused his absence by claiming he had a bellyache. In 1889, pitcher Pud Galvin was the first well-known user of “PEDs” in baseball because he took an elixir of testosterone extracted from dog and guinea pig testicles.
@@GarrettCroslin Hank Aaron Josh Gibson broke his records
A couple of things that make the Babe even more remarkable, as others have pointed out. If he had been a hitter his whole career, he would likely still hold the record for most homeruns ever, not even counting he played his first 4 years in the dead ball era. Also, MLB had a rule back then that even if the ball went over the wall in fair ground, if it landed foul (like wrapping around the back side of the foul pole) it was a foul ball. This also likely took homeruns away from Ruth. The dude easily could have had over 800 if he'd have played a couple of years later and in the field more. "The Year Babe Ruth Hit 104" by Bill Jenkinson is an excellent read about this.
Babe Ruth and Muhammad Ali have to be the 2 most revered sports figures in history. 110% mythic.
Ruth, Ali, Jordan, Jake Pau- Im fucking kidding. Not even typing the rest lol
@@arsenal-slr9552 hey, I'm a Jake fan. I keep him in perspective and find the guy entertaining. But he does have a ways to go before he joins the rare air occupied by the legends.
I absolutely love Babe Ruth and this video was really interesting explains about Babe Ruth's career, So thanks :), I also subscribed and dropped a like!
Appreciate it, thanks!
Even as an Australian growing up we knew about babe Ruth
Babe Ruth hit 714 HR’s in 8,399 AB’s, Hank Aaron hit 755 in 12,364 AB, it’s obvious who was the better HR hitter.
Babe Ruth was a baseball ⚾️ hitter machine:: only way to pitch to babe Ruth was to walk 🚶♂️ babe Ruth: unstoppable or unpitchable babe Ruth was
I have Maury Wills' biography, and Maury played during most of Aaron's career and was approximately the same age. He said that Aaron was not thought of as a home run hitter because he was so consistent. He would hit one or two home runs a week rather than hitting them in bunches. Obviously, that perception began to change when Aaron passed 500 home runs.
Babe Ruth was, of, course, thought of as the premier power hitter of his time.
babe is the king
Babe Ruth is without question the GOAT, because he is the only baseball player who is a Hall of Famer as a hitter and pitcher. (As a pitcher, Ruth is 94-46 (a 67% winning percentage), led the majors in ERA in 1916 (1.75), and still holds the record for most innings pitched in a single World Series game (14 innings). He / Boston won that game, and the series.)
NO DOUBT THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME.
Babe Ruth is the GOAT, no player can touch his complete career.
Babe, is the greatest of all time.
The Babe was the greatest name anyone who hit .340 lifetime hit 714 homeruns and won 99 games as a pitcher👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Yes, he is the greatest ever. Period.
@spartacus Thelast Thank you.
@alien observer but that's a lot of talent not playing
@spartacus Thelast 👈👺
Don't tell me what I can't fkg do!
Barry bonds better
@@FGPlus Berry Bonds Is a cheater. How many rings does Bonds have. You can’t use MVP trophies. You can’t use all-Star games and you can’t use Gold gloves. All star game got started in 1933 and Babe Rue retired in 1935 all-Star game got started at the end of Babe Ruth career. Gold Glove Award got started in 1957. Babe Ruth retired in 1935 gold glove award came after Babe Ruth retired. MVP got started 1931 that’s why Babe Ruth dose not have that many because Babe Rue retired in 1935.
Finally, a video or a source of info that talks at least a little about the Babe's defensive game. He was a high percentage outfielder as well and as a fielding pitcher he had to have done well also. That's a more complete assessment overall of Babe Ruth which removes any doubt about him being the g.o.a.t.
Jimmie Foxx actually hit 60 HRs in 1932 but 2 were erased because games were called because of rain. He also pitched. :)
Foxx batted .325,, not .342 and did not hit more homers than entire teams. Foxx did not pitch much, and he did not win 7 world series, 3 as a pitcher, 4 as a hitter. He was great, but he was no Babe.
I didnt say he was the babe, just making a comment. Stats are the stats but tying the babe years before the single season HR record deserves a nod. Noone was the Babe, thats undeniable. However, Jimmie Foxx, AKA DoubleX AKA The Beast, was a contrarian to Ruth grandiose lifestyle and arguably one of the most under-rated players of all time. @@Grizzlied555
Retire this legends # throughout MLB He deserves it!!!! It should've happened long before Jackie Robinson!!! No name is more synonymous with the game than Babe Ruth!!!!
Truth
They don't get it Babe Ruth is PEEK PREFORMENCE
There is no GREATEST anything for any sport. There's only the Icon of a sport. Someone you think of first. And that's Babe Ruth.
I believe that he is
Yes! He was the GOAT! For my 9th birthday I wanted and received a Bath Ruth bat and ball.
Ruthian.. It’s an adjective..
The only thing I question about all players of that era is how to judge the quality of competition around the league. Compared to today, how do you know if the rest of the league are more at the level of a AAA player today?
Especially because he was before integration, that’s a really good question. It’s the thing that keeps it from being a slam dunk. Imo he was just so dominant I still think of him as the #1.
Dude its all about numbers in babe's time, less teams make a more tightly packed talent level. Imagine if MLB had 10-12 teams total today. Intergration plays that off a little but given %s not by much. This guy hit more homers than some teams.....that's all you need to know.
Yeah, but there were only 16 teams..
I read an interesting theory that said the aftermath of the Spanish Flu pandemic was actually a bigger factor than integration, or the lack there of.. The theory being that particular generation was weakened by the pandemic..
He’s the greatest player, and greatest hitter ever..
Let's assume pitchers back then were bad or didn't throw very hard etc and it was a lot easier then now, let's assume that. Then that would mean hitters had big advantage so then why was 98 o recent of the league bad at hitting?
@@alext8244 And people also forget that he had to deal with the spitter, and the fact that breaking balls are harder to hit than the fastball. Those arguments are just made by people trying to dress up their recency bias.
I just want you to close your eyes and imagine a baseball player who is a left handed pitcher with a sub 3 era and leads the league in home runs while batting over 300.
The man could litterally throw a complete game shutout and hit a home run. He could single handedly win games with 8 other random joes.
to be fair, look at the ear avg of the era. not as many power hitters etc. but stil yes he is a talent we not seen before. and may never see again. i get the Angels guy is good but he isnt hitting 100+ homers and blowing the league out of the water on both sides of the plate. i say 100 homers cause Babe was not just winning that but doubling the next high.
babe ruth,tom brady and wayne gretzky my top 3 of all time in all sports
There's nothing to talk about he's like Elvis Presley. 👍👍👍.
You should do a What If for Mickey Mantle. He's the only man that would've truly competed for the title of GOAT with Ruth
Don’t forget the lost 4 military time for Ted Williams
@@JS-vd6kb0 rings 😅
@@Garci345curse of the Bambino lasted over a century.
@@someperson8151 david ortiz think diferent
@@someperson8151 curse of bambino its a dumb excuses
The fact is thats was the joe dimaggio era NINE WS!!!! AND RUTH IS THE GOAT
I’d like to see the offensive numbers of the other three against the pitching of Ruth’s era, but the fact that he was an elite pitcher trumps everything.
Give Ted Williams those 5 seasons due to his services for 2 wars (which were basically what would have been his prime seasons) and this great video would've been about the 2nd best player of all time. But respect to the Bambino 🙏
Ted does not compare to Babe
AGREED ... but based on game dominance, lets put together a Wilt, Babe compare
❤️ wilt: 100 points a games; 50& 44 points scoring average a game but only one babe Ruth; gorde Howe vs babe Ruth maybe a draw
well said. also in multiple seasons, he hit more homeruns, then several entire teams. I also heard this comparison on goats, " compare them, to how much better they were, then everyone else in their era". your video depicts that very well also. He wasn't just a little better. He was on a completely different level . The only close comparison in my book, was how much better prime jordan was compared to his field. The difference between Babe and his peers was even greater.
The Goat hands down
Oh, yes, for sure. No one else compares.
Babe’s craziest record is the 457 total bases he had in 1921. No one has even approached that number in almost 100 years. He also had a record 119 extra-base hits that year.
Something about the way you said it made it seem to me like Ruth lost more World Series than I thought he did... But he was 7 for 10.
But 3 were with Boston so 4 out of 7 with the Yankees...
First to hit a 500’ hr
And for $1 can you name the 2nd?.. Queue the Jeopardy theme..
@@jacobjones5269 Foxx or Gherig prob maybe Ott obv Gibson all in the late 20’s - 30’s
@@metaphoria3
Jimmy Foxx.. Hit at least 30 HR in 12 consecutive seasons..
Gehrig never made it..
@@jacobjones5269 ok but I thought we were talking about the 2nd 500’ ever hit. The hr that Ruth hit that proceeded it went 450’ to the foot of the alligator zoo but not as far into the pond
@@jacobjones5269 Gherig yes very sad what happened Riparadise hit his first gs which he was known for as a 17 yr old hs at wrigley
He did all that he did having started his career as a pitcher, and living on hotdogs and beer! Can you imagine what he could have accomplished eating right, working out and popping steroids like some of these modern dudes? Also, nowadays, homerun leaders routinely have several other players hot on their heels! When Ruth was leading the league in homeruns he was hitting more than entire other teams!
Babe #1
Something nobody ever mentions... yes, he was a pitcher with lower home run totals, but the key is the dead vs live ball era that he almost perfectly aligns to. He hit 29 home runs in 130 games in 1919! That was dead ball era. If his career had fell solely in the live ball era, his skills would have been seen sooner and juiced or not, he'd be on top. Written as an anti-Yankee. Great channel BTW.
The stadium concept was invented because of the Babe hence the house that Ruth built
babe ruth is the goat , tom brady is the goat and gretzky is the goat and i say jordan is the nba goat everyone knows these are the 4 goats in major us Team sports end of story
Everyone does not know that. Brady is not any goat at all. Montana is.
Yes babe ruth still the goat
Yes! Generational. Like Jordan.
According to the Ken Burns documentary, there was a season where Ruth hit more home runs than every TEAM except the Philadelphia A's (1920). I fact checked and....incredibly its true.
It's really too bad about the 1919 Black Sox scandal. I would have liked to see what Shoeless Joe would have done in the 20s and how he would compare to Babe.
@@sdgakatbk Would have been very interesting. Ty Cobb once said Shoeless Joe was the best hitter he ever saw. Obviously Mr. Cobb wasnt the effusive type when it came to praise, so Jackson must have been great indeed.
If he's hittin baseballs like it was nothing, imagine gettin, slugged by this dude.
He was hitting more home runs than any other TEAM. And Brady has more SBs wins than any single FRANCHISE. A big part of GOAT status is comparison to your contemporaries. Because it’s so hard to judge people of different eras. But it’s easier to judge how good a player is versus his contemporaries versus how good another player is versus their contemporaries. No one in MLB history was THAT much better than the other players of their time...
Speaking of Brady... You know one thing that sets him apart from guys like Ruth or MJ? He actually won (at least, so far) one with Tampa Bay. That’s like Ruth winning the World Series with the Braves it MJ winning the Finals with the Wizards. Or Montana with Kansas City. This shit just DOES NOT happen...
Generally I agree, but it also depends what you judge GOAT by. I agree that Brady is the GOAT QB though I HATE to because I'm a Unitas fan. However, he has to be given his due.
As to hockey though, a lot of people say Gretzky is GOAT. I think he is the GOAT offensive player of all time and had the best vision and anticipation in the offensive zone. He was a genius offensively. But GOAT is more than that. I'll take Gordie Howe as GOAT as he was dominant in his main era, the 50s and 60s, but he also hit and played in the defensive zone. He did everything well. In that sense, I think he was more like MJ, who not only was a dynamic scorer, but made himself into a top defender too.
barry bonds is a roid cheater and never will be the goat . everyone knows baseball have one goat and its Babe ruth
He was indeed the goat...of the 1926 World Series! Which in Game 7 for some inexplicable reason tried to steal second and was caught for the final out and losing the WS as a result. It remains the only time in WS history that the final out was from being caught stealing.
His reasoning was that Cleveland Alexander was pitching so well that they’d only get one chance to score from second. He thought he’d catch them off guard. Miller Higgins actually said it was a good attempt.
Best hitter of that era for sure.
If he played in the modern era, my guess is he’d be somewhere between Vogelbach (at worst) and Big Papi (at best).
The game has changed so much since then. Not to take away from Ruth, but it’s just not comparable. Every single aspect of sports performance has improved drastically over the last 100 years. It’s foolish to believe baseball players haven’t.
If you put babe Ruth with modern nutrition and training you don’t don’t think he would adjust?
Let’s flip that and transport todays players to 1920:
a) Spitball and scuffing still allowed.
b) Travel by rail, often stopping to play exhibitions in small towns for a quick owner cash grab. No quick, one hour flights on a chartered plane.
c) Doubleheaders in 90 degree plus heat.
d) Wool uniforms while playing in 90 degree plus heat.
e) Players had to play injured..no taking off for a “pulled hamstring.”
f) Inferior equipment…bats made of deadened ash. Gloves were about as big as an oversized mitt.
Ruth took a test in 1920, conducted by a scientist, that measured his hand/eye coordination. He was judged to be almost superhuman in his reflexes. My guess is that he’d adapt to today’s game very well by using a lighter bat, smaller stride (which he started doing later in his career), and taking advantage of video technology and pitcher analytics. Greatness is greatness, regardless of era.
Yes, he is
Him or Ty Cobb. The fact Ruth was among the best pitchers ever so he gets the edge.
What people nowadays tend to forget os that the ballparks were SO much bigger 100+ years ago. You didn't have 315ft homers over the right field wall. They STARTED at like 365ft.
No argument from me. Thank you.
You didn’t consider Ted Williams because he went to war twice and missed time? First of all that’s absolutely ridiculous! With his missed time he still has Hall of Fame stats. Secondly, a steroid filled Barry bonds was considered? That’s damn near offensive.
Ted Williams was considered, he just wasn’t in my top 4. He wasn’t in my top 4 because his counting stats (HR, RBI, WAR, etc) were not good enough to beat out Aaron, Bonds, Mays or Ruth’s stats. 5th best player of all time is still easily an inner circle Hall of Famer. Didn’t love putting Bonds in there but he 100% has a top 4 career statline.
Ted Williams is an American Hero - The Babe was the best all around player , because of his defense - the throws that man made from the outfield is completely overlooked - it's true....
@@zachr26 Wrong. Take Williams numbers before and after his WW2 service, and before his Korea service, and splice them in to his career totals, and see what numbers you come up with. I come up with 645 HR, and consider his lifetime OBP of .482.
You have no proof or evidence Bonds cheated. You are just a hater because Barry never played for your favorite team.
@@jerrybrownell3633 oh now - 20 yrs ago I saw Bob Costas in the stable area at Churchill Downs - this is what I told him
" Mr Costas, all due respect - you are obviously a lot smarter than someone like myself who bends metal and shovels horse poop for a living - so I have a question -
Every sports personality on television, particularly yourself , has been crucifying
these baseball players over steroids - now , how is it possible if I , again a horse poop expert, knew these players were jacked up on synthetics (which I believe they should be allowed to use- makes for a much more interesting game) how in the @$$& is it possible you weren't aware ? I believe in fact you were not only aware - you are as complicant as the dudes with the spike hung up their ass!" The look on his face was priceless -
If the size of his head and the gaps in his teeth doesn't give you a clue - I don't need to watch the fella spray paint on an octonal traffic sign to understand red means stop -
I'd like to think I'm a little bit smarter than that -
Thanks for the comedic relief
GOAT. Every analytical b.s. they try all comes back to the truth ,Bambino the aBest. Don't forget his 4 yrs pitching. Crapping on him caush White. Tris Speaker,Joe D,Lou G, etc all top 10
Thanks. Long before enjoying your video, I concluded the Babe was the best, because his pitching skills were so strong. If I recall, Kevin Burns' "BASEBALL" documentary noted that Ruth had pitching records that stood until the 1960's. Case closed. For what it's worth, my list is Ruth; Mays; Mantle. In each case, I value versatility. If Shohei continues, he might join them.
If you could choose one player for your team in the 2020 World Series, who are you taking: Ohtani or Ruth? Can Ruth even throw 90+ mph gas? Can Ruth his 90-95+ mph gas? I mean come on… look at how he is built. Look at his mechanics. We need to find a way to respect these guys, but not let their numbers be compared to the modern game so much. Fun fact: Ruth hit nearly 70 of his home runs at the Polo Grounds, where a double that gets through the gap turns into a home run.
@@bowlersunanimous1983
I take Ruth:
Batting average .342
Win-loss record 94-46
Earned run average 2.28
Ohtani has a ways to go.
The w/l records are similar, but the
Batt avg and ERA are weaker:
Batting average .264
Win-loss record 23-13
Earned run average 3.25
@@marbanak but you failed to grasp the point of his comment, which is that all of those stats of Ruth’s were in a context where baseball players were far less impressive athletes. Many players had second jobs that they worked even through the season when Ruth played. So having a .265 average today needs to be given wayyyyy more credit than a .300 average in Ruth’s day
@@dylancanyon723 Not sure which comment you refer to. Still, I appreciate your point.
Shohei is not even on the top 50 best all time. Do you have ANY comprehension of just how many insanely good players there have been in the 120 years of modern baseball? For real, dude. Do yourself a favor and crack open the stat books and history books. There are players you haven’t even heard of who put Shohei to shame. Baseball history is loooooooong. We like to think the players of our day are special and the best. But they aren’t necessarily. With the exception of Mariano Rivera as relief pitcher, and maybe Barry Bonds as hitter (albeit a cheater), we have not seen any top 10 player in our lifetime. And no, Mike Trout is not top 10.
I agree that the Babe is the GOAT, but without the Negro League Players like Josh Gibson being considered, there is a gap. The thing is, that's just too hard to do with the Negro League players as the history and stats is kind of sketchy.
It was criminal that the black ballplayers were excluded from MLB at the time. That said, Ruth’s stats when competing against black players in exhibitions were actually better than against his contemporaries.
Barry bonds broke it with steroids
For sure
He is a god given inspiration.
The greatest.
Bar none.
to me he did what no other player had done yet behind the plate. and kept doing it consistantly. He dwarfs barry bonds. and any other. i have 0 doubt the others are better athelets.... but how good would they of done in that era? on those salaries? Babe made the sport what it is today. and if u only care about wins, he has more rings then any of them. and you mentioned at the end as well. he could also pitch really well. Cy young quality early on. and who knows career wise. even with his poor training, and etc he was out basing, hitting, walking everyone. give him todays trainers etc........and or factor his home runs to today standards. he be hitting over 100 home runs a season.... the guy was a beast. pure and simple. no one is even close i guess maybe hank. i struggle to put bonds in the list because of his roid use. def mvp player. yes but without the roids he faded off sooner......... maybe capped out around 500 homers.
What were the league averages for pitchers in the AL in the five years that Ruth pitched over 100 innings?
Nolan Ryan...Pete Rose....Babe Ruth...
Ryan and Rose cannot even compare to the Babe.
Rose? Um, no.
I have no problem saying that Babe Ruth is THE most important player in baseball history, but I wonder...If he had played his entire career outside the Polo Grounds and Old Yankee Stadium, would he have hit as many homers? Both stadiums had very short porches in right field, making it far easier to get a ball over the fence. I don't know, but he did revolutionize the sport almost single handedly.
@@AlienObserver-gt4hy Never said he wouldn't be great, just ponder if he would have achieved the number of homers he did.
Ruth hit more homers on the road than in either NYC ballpark. Fact.
Ruth’s pitching stats went down when he became a two way player.
It's head and shoulders above every other GOAT maybe Wilt can match in statistical dominance, Gretzky couldn't get it done without Messier. Brady's numbers aren't that impressive and can be credited to longevity.