Sorry for the slightly messy video, I filmed this a few weeks ago, then immediately made the change to the wear data calculation. I planned to refilm it but I've had a chest infection so no filming possible, and it's so late in the season now I thought I should just publish it anyway!
As you asked, I would be interested in a video covering the differences between NA and Europe tires. Really enjoy the channel, even in years when I'm not buying tires!
Get well soon, Jonathan. May your chest / lower respiratory infection heal soon and go away for good. Your videos are by far the MOST TECHNICAL & SCIENTIFIC tyre test videos out there on RUclips. We love you!
Including a real life tread-wear is a game changer actually. At this point with everything considered Tyre reviews is pretty much the tyre tests authority :)
Thanks :) Sadly we're not quite there globally yet, Autobild and ADAC still test larger groups of tires than I can, but then they have huge teams of people. They're definitely inspiring to me.
Selfishly as a Colorado resident, I am so glad you have moved to our neck of the woods so your commentary is gravitating a little bit more towards North America. I have been running all-weather and performance winter tires November through April for the exact climate you have described as your use case.
@@tyrereviews Nokian WRG4 SUV since CrossClimate tires tend to be significantly more expensive. I am running Wintrac Pro on my G87 M2 and have found them to be surprisingly good in dry.
@@tyrereviews I have a set of the Pirelli WeatherActives that are on our long-distance SUV which goes from SF to LA to Lake Tahoe and back around. I'm glad you're covering Nokian ATs, I also have a set of those that I put on for off-road trips and they are fabulous, esp. give the hundreds of miles driven on pavement just to get to the dirt....
I'm in Colorado (howdy, neighbor!) and the uptake on Cross Climate 2s (and similar) has been massive which is really nice to see because now people who don't bother with winter tires have proper winter traction.
I run the Michelin Cross Climate 2s on my SUV all year round in my semi-arid part of Western Montana, they're perfect. It was cool to hear Jonathan does the same thing for similar reasons. They do so great in the snow and compacted snow/ice. And I bought them because of Tyre Reviews, no regrets! :)
i have them in the Alps for the family car, they are very good, i have winter tyres on my daily car , the one which go to ski resort often ( snow conditions are usually worse when i go alone than with the kids), the CC2 are more like winter tyres with summer capacities than summer tyres with some winter capacities., the main downside is that they are noisy on highways ( 130/160km/h cruising)
I run the LM005 as well. Very pleased with it. Great in the wet and snow of Europe. Wear is not quite as good as some winter tyres, exactly as Tyre Reviews say. They will last me three winters. Other winter tyres I have used tend to last me four winters. I just re-fitted the LM005's ready for winter this morning 👍
No tire has ever disappointed me more then LM005. Bought 3 sets in a short timeframe due to excellent test results, but took them off all 3 cars prematurely due to extreme noise production once the tired got older. 2nd and 3rd season were unbearably loud. Running TS850P and GY UG now
@@writeStevie I have the exact same experience.... Not good enough after first couple of years. GY UG has never disappointed... fifth season now and still loads of grip, soft and very quiet.
I have 2 sets of Conti Viking contact 7s on my 2 fwd cars and I’m very happy with them. After 6 combined winters with them in Canada I can count on 1 hand the times I’ve been stuck.
I can guess you are satisfied. This Viking Contact is made for (Nordic) dry snow winter conditions. The tested tyre is more for European wet winter conditions, so these tyres are at least slightly different. I almost forgot to say that the VC tyre has been a test winner for the last few years in the Nordic countries... So you can't find a better tyre! Corresponding Goodyear is almost(!) as good in the tests. Slightly better when the streets are wet, but it's the best Goodyear on dry snow. Model name something...Ice 3. I think I would myself buy the the Goodyear, as the winters are more wet than dry so to speak. If safety is important and you drive quite a lot, then you choose the best in test tyres.
8:22 I just installed the Bridgestone Weatherpeaks here in Quebec. They are great tires. So quiet in the dry, and performed so good in the 6cm of snow we got last week. I look forward to running them all year long
Tire store service manager here. Very curious on the differences between NA and EU tires. Also surprised that anyone has winter tires that age out, as my customers rarely get three full seasons (although many do run winters from October until May). Tread wear is a very important consideration here, so I appreciate you factoring that into the results. And yes, I talk about "summer-based all-season" tires all the time. It annoys me that "all-weather" isn't an official category yet, although I think it will be soon.
Here in the Pyrenees, my winter tyres normally last about 4-5 seasons. But that is only Nov-Mar and probably only doing about 1000 / month. (Audi A4 Quattro).
Best tire reviews. PERIOD. (FWIW, living in the "sloppy" conditions of the Northeast, I was going to get the famed Cross Climate2s, but they didn't come in the right size for my 2005 Outback. Ended up with Vredenstein Quatracs and was extremely pleased with their wet-weather performance. They gripped extremely well even at highway speeds in torrential downpours. FWIW, I'm not talking about the Quatrac Pros which have a different tread pattern but are also 3 peak mountain snowflake rated, and also called "grand touring all season" tires by Tire Rack. I don't understand why two tires would have such similar names but such vastly different designs.)
I would love a North America vs the world for tires. I am in North America and finding a channel with thorough tire content lands me here. I don't get half of the tires shown and have to make informed choices on what I can get based on other reviews and word of mouth. Will definitely watch that if you produce a piece on it. Thanks for all that you do!
You can see which tires parallel the tires that he's talking about or you can watch some of the tests where he was doing tire testing in San Angelo at Goodyear's facility for more localized content. There's also TireRack videos and tests though not as satisfying, but often you find there are a lot of trade-offs with tires and it's just picking out the characteristics that appeal to you, which most of the tire websites already have little engines to help you after a short questionnaire. The thing that we almost see is consistent are mid-tier models from reputable manufacturers seem to be consistently decent and more recent models or revisions seem to take advantage of newer compounds versus much older models. I like to nerd out too though and watch the content and learn.
Shout out to CC2, thanks to your suggestion. Live in Tokyo with occasional roadtrips up north, I feel I get most of what I need out of it without needing two sets of tires. Yes its probably not as good as Blizzaks in -20 celsius but I dont encounter that often enough to justify.
I use Michelin Crossclimate2 tires on my Corolla. I live in Toronto and have similar reasoning to you for selecting the CC2. Winter is usually the occasional snowfall but mostly driving on dry roads. I used to use Michelin X-Ice which certainly are the better choice when it comes to snow and ice but they perform worse on dry pavement than the CC2s. That being said, the CC2 performance on snow and ice is pretty good and not much worse than X-Ice. Having tires like the CC2 is a much better fit for the conditions I actually encounter. Definitely my favourite tires, hands down. The only thing I notice is that in the wet they can be a handful. Not because they hydroplane, quite the opposite. They have excellent wet grip but they pump water so well that hitting deeper puddles will slow the car, sometimes pretty violently if the puddle is deep enough (much more than your standard straight cut tires). You better be holding the wheel right and be prepare to throttle through. Lol
I've been very happy with my Continental Vikingcontact 7's for the last few years. Best of both world. Grips like a Nordic harsh winter studdless, but is smooth-driving like a sporty alpine winter tire. I put them on everything now.
I put Viking Contact 7's on my Mini Cooper JCW for the last winter season here in NYC and although they are great in the snow, the dry handling and braking is not very good. My other winter tires, Pirelli Sotto Zero 3's are much bettter in dry but ofcourse a bit worse in the snow. It all depends on how harsh the winter is going to be I guess. I want to try the PA5's of LM005's next.
Great video as usual. Understandably this may be expensive but I think it be interesting to see many of your tests on 1/2 worn tires. As you know, many siping and compound characteristics change throughout the life of the tire. Thanks for all this information. You do an excellent job in these tests.
Please when you calculate the cost add the used fuel in as well. 1 liter of petrol per 100 km becomes 200 l over 20 000 km, in Finland (2 euro/l) this alone is 400 euro for 20 000 km,, which is comparable with the price of the set of tires....
My main worry when choosing a tire is safety, followed by noise/comfort, followed by wear/cost. I'd love to see tests with EVs happen. While grip and track times can be interesting, I prefer the brake tests and your general subjective thoughts ehrn it comes to safety (i.e. a certain tire is more predictable or makes you more confident or have better control in corners/braking)
Last year after watching your review I decided to buy LM005. I live in Lithuania, and we tend to get snow, ice and etc. One time I was driving on very poor condition, it was mist of rain and negative degrees C°. All the road became black ice. My Tesla Model 3 (awd) felt like regular car on a regular road while driving on black ice. I could feel the bad conditions underneath only while trying to brake. Accelerating, changing lanes was without any problems. I don't know how much of this is new car technology helping me stay on the road and how much this waa tires, but I do reccomend Blizzaak. With 18'' wheel 235/45 I have better energy usage than my summer tires Pirreli P zero.
I have always wanted to know "What all-season tire is the best for winter/occasional snow?" Finally, a definitive answer. Now I can run a summer tire from May-Oct and the CC2's from Nov-Apr.
After one season on the standard 870 with the wife’s Fiesta, I’m in love with Conti. Had some wet / slippy situations at 2C where they said “come at me bro” :) Just got some 870P in W speed index for my FoRS MK3 and they are yet to be driven. They will age before they wear. My last sotto zero 3 on the RS had 6 years and plenty of thread left.
I have the Pirelli weatheractive's on my 2013 suburban and have yet to drive in snow, but so far the wet and dry traction if phenomenal. Absolutely Phenomenal. I drive on twisty county roads like a mad man and have yet to lose traction. To bad you can't test them, they are awesome.
I did a lot of winter tyre tests (including a few on the Test world in Ivalo) and must admit that you, guys, rock! And Michelin CC2, of course. Have them on my Tesla in Sweden, and they are always good enough to feel confident on the road.
Toyo GSI 6 - on my Mazda Protege 5, manual, FWD - is great in snow, I ski all my life, visit different mountains on the season, Toyo GSI 6 really impressed me on a snowy NY state roads, highly recommend. Surprised did not make a list here. I'll try next what you recommended, thank you for this video 👍
I would really love to see a review of tires designed to offer the best range for EV's via low rolling resistance, such as the Hankook Ion Evo. There are now options that can increase your effective range as much as 15% over a standard AS tire, but serious tire reviews to compare what you are giving up for that range improvement are basically non-existent at the moment. I would love to see Tyre Reviews go in depth so I can determine if they are worth it or not in terms of giving up performance for range.
I'm an avid outdoorsman in South Dakota, a place where winter lasts ~6 months. I drive a Subaru Forester and often encounter snowy rural roads and icy highways. For the past six years I relied on Blizzak WS90 winter tires. Where I live if you get stuck your life could be in danger from the cold. They are excellent! On my wife's Subaru Legacy I put Cross Climate 2 for year round use. It had no problems at all with our record snows last winter, and it's very quiet on the highway.
I decided in the spring to put on new Hankook tires on my 2015 XC70 and they were great this season. Now I bought new winter ones and opted for Hankooks again. I knew they aren't test winning but solid results overall and I managed to get them 60€ cheaper per tire than Blizzaks and 100€/tire cheaper than Michelins here. I think given the price Hankooks will give me a good bang for buck and keep it safe. Now I just hope there will be snow in the winter so I can test it out. So far - no complaints regarding Hankook. Great video, looking forward to the next one! :)
Jon, you're an absolute national treasure in two countries. Well done, sir! I can't wait to see those EV tire tests. There's so much that goes into the spider graphs for how EV-focused that it's completely mind boggling and we need your help to point us in the right direction with the best data. Thanks!!
Love your work, it is very much appreciated! When you pronounce Vredestein it sounded to me like you were saying Bridgestone - I really had to back track and re-listen :)
I'm glad the LM-005 still do so well. My fiance opted for them on his new car as the dealer offered them with his preferred rims for a pretty good price, a few 100 € less than if he had bought the Conti TS 870 P via the internet with the same rims.
I've got the Blizzak WS90 on my tuned diesel BMW 335d (RWD) which has 400hp/600tq and they perform shockingly well - I've driven in 8 inches of fresh snow and not had issues or gotten stuck, and I've also driven during an ice storm where it was slippery under acceleration and hard braking, but I did not slide or crash.
As I mentioned under your previous videos, I replaced this year Dunlop WS5 a 5 year-old tyres for Kleber quadraxer3. IAs I realised, despite huge tyre tread, I din not feel safe oon them. Hope to feel sure when winter comes to Poland this year if it comes.....Gread video as usual!!!
Thats cool that you happened to use pretty much the same car I have for the performance winter tire test. I have a track-prepped 2016 Mustang that I occasionally use during winter (I now have another car for winter, but I like to drive the Mustang a bit when its not super snowy out, and when I moved from California to Michigan it was my only car for a couple winter months). I have a set of Bridgestone LM32's on it, and they are great for a lower Michigan winter. People here are surprised I drove a V8 Mustang in the snow, but they seem to always be the same people that have never driven on a winter tire!
As always your tire reviews just simply ROCK! I can't wait for you to test the entire Hankook iON EVO lineup. I am especially interested in seeing the differences between the AS and Summer version of this tire. I have the AS version on my Tesla Model 3 Performance and I really do think they are outstanding for efficiency, wear, and comfort. They even performed surprisingly well for drag racing although I think their lateral traction will not be anywhere near the summer version.
Looking forward to seeing the review from the Bridgestone Turanza All-Season 6, as i am planning to replace my tires on my winter set, mostly for the wet weather winter climate here in the Netherlands. going to use them under a Z4 coupe.
I have switched my vehicles to Weatherpeaks after buying them for my RX and taking them to the mountains here in the PNW. Handled slush and powdered snow like my blizzaks! Good in rain, not a performance tire as they are slightly squishy on the road when cornering, quiet, and are wearing as expected. I put the michelins CC2 on my mother-in-laws car and they handle our weather great, just not a fan of the growling noise when the car turns on pavement. Keep up the good work!
I'm reading the studded tyre test and something I'd like you to talk about, too, is comparing to an old tyre. They're using an eight-year-old tyre. I'm very interested as to how technology has advanced in say 8 or ten years, in things you test, i.e., wet braking, dry braking etc. Just how good are tyres now compared to maybe 10 years ago! Your tests guide my tyre buying, especially living in north Europe where we have to have Sommer and winter tyres. Tack, for all your hard work.
As a tire enthusiast and someone who installed them in shops for years. I take the projected mileage with a grain of salt. This is more true for tires that will be in adverse conditions. A tire that performs badly in the snow, but has a higher mileage rating will likely wear just as fast, if not faster, because it will spend more time slipping and having to be spun on packed snow and ice. summer tires have a similar issue if you spend more time slipping on the pavement because of your hard compound versus gripping and going inadvertently faster
Would love some reviews on the North America tires as I live in the North America and would like the extra data to help with shopping for winter tires. Love the video and love all the hard work and data collected. Appreciate all your hard work in collecting all this data.
I really appreciate your thorough reviews. I live in Northern California in the SF Bay Area -- we are "snow commuters" so the paradox for winter is that we need good snow/ice grip in the Sierra mountains but most of the time we are not driving in the snow and we have to drive a long way (350 Km) to get there. Our amazing CalTrans Highway department does an awesome job of keeping the snow off the road so we are often driving on very thin snow/ice or "frozen asphalt". It's not wise to use a dedicated snow tire like the Michelin X-Ice or Blizzak since the rain and dry performance not to mention road noise is sub-par. The Michelin Cross Climate 2 tires seem to fit the bill for my case. I drove these in Calgary/Banff last year for a week and was very impressed.
Sidegraded from 205/45/17 Pilot Super Sport to 205/40/17 Pilot Sport 5 (stock size) on my Fiesta and thanks to your review I am a very happy canyon bomber. ♥️
Living in Germany I use the Vredestein wintrac pro on my sports cars mainly due to the Y rating and good dry handling. Also the wear rate, as mentioned is very good
Wow! This video was one of the most information packed video this channel has put out. I was able to keep up with the information, I was tempted to play this video at less than 1.0 playback speed, but didn’t. Never got bored 👍
Thanks for the video! Always love your work and recently fitted the Cross Climate 2 as winter tires in Vancouver BC as we get way more wet conditions than actual snow. Would be great if you had a class leading all season in all your videos to compare how it performs against class leaders in other categories. Oh and at least in Canada, we differentiate between 3 season and all weather tires.
How did it handle last year's snow storm? As that was a messy affair for most of the coast, I'm thinking of going for a full winter set-up to maximise my traction in our slushy-ice type of snow (especially being RWD).
I just put them on recently so haven't taken them through winter yet. But very happy with them in the wet. I ran WS80's before and was disappointed with their wet performance in our climate. I'm on AWD X2 but it's m35i model with over 300HP and the Cross Climate 2's are handing it fine in the dry and wet so far.
@AwSomeNESSS My crossclimate 2 and WRG4 were fine in that storm, WRG4 stopped a bit better than the crossclimate 2 but never got stuck. The Michelin ice-x were better at stopping but you always have to drive for the conditions no matter what tires you have, even winter tires are not perfect
@@alanb3213 cheers! Yeah, I was looking at WRG4s from the last test, but that’s a little too much loss in dry performance for my car and general use, while the X-Ice would be the same issue for how much time we spend above 10c here in the winter half of the year.
Just got my new X-Ice snow tires installed on my GMC Sierra Denali. Have not had snow yet here in Ontario Canada, but I’m really impressed how these tires drive on dry pavement. They ride much nicer than my Bridgestone DueleR AT that came with the truck
I'd love to see more reviews on mid-tier tires that auto-enthusiasts with a slightly lower budget gravitate towards, ie Toyo, Nitto, Falken, and Firestone tires. I was cross shopping some Winter Performance tires, and couldn't find a lot of data on this specific set, as everyone seemed to focus on the higher end tires that cost $50-$70 more per unit. I wouldn't mind seeing the data on their ultra high performance and 3-season tires as well.
No video of the Mustang?! I would love to see that! Had a manual S550 and drove it in winter. Would enjoy hearing your thoughts about how the Mustang handles snow.
thanks for your diligent research and great explanations! Based on your reviews I threw Pilot Alpin 5 on my FL5 as winter tires I was going to go with the CrossClimate2, but they were backordered. now that I realize how little I'm going to drive in the cold, I'm glad I spent the extra for the Alpin, they'll age out before they wear out
I very much enjoy your tire reviews, so thanks for all the effort you put into them! I'd due for some new winter tires for my Audi A3 TDI (FWD) as well as some new shoes for my Z06 (C7Z tires options are limited!), your channel has become my go-to for recommendations given the actual data to back everything up... So again, thank you for all your hard work!
When the winter wear gets to be too much on the Blazaks, after ~3 years, I run the tires though the summer and save the all season summer tires for the following summer. That way you run the winter down twords becoming illegal, then replaced for the next winter.
if you live in britain or similar climate you might as well change to all seasons or have all seasons on all year like the name suggests. winter tires are primarily made for below 0c
Picked up some older Blizzaks with nearly full tread. Hoping for good things, as this is my first set of winter tires. Price/km (mile) should be very good as I drive a lot.
Just looked at the average January temp in Helsinki: -4.5 degrees. It is 2 degrees warmer than Toronto where most people don't even care about winter tires and the studs are banned.
@tyrereviews Wait! Did you say you live in Utah? I had no idea! I live in Utah as well and love your reviews. Thanks for your dedication! I use Michelin Defenders in the summer and Michelin X-Ice Snow in the winter on my Highlander. I use Blizzak runflats on my wife's Sienna in winter. And my kids' cars are using Michelin Cross Climate 2 (Rav4 and CRV) year round. They go to school in the mountainous Logan area.
I’ve seen drivers using all seasons on the front wheels and summer on the rear. Would love to see you test this scenario with both winter then all seasons on front with summer on rear to see braking and handling results. And the dangers of mixing.
The thing about wear and tread depth is that in most of the EU (if i am not mistaken) if it's below 4mm, it doesn't count as winter tyre anymore. Sure, you can use the tyre up in the summer (for which the limit is 1.6mm), but under winter conditions insurance copmanies will either not pay or seek regress in case something happens (depending on the type of insurrance), and in those parts of europe where there's a winter tyre mandate in certain conditions or times, you can't use them in said conditions or time of the year as they are under the legal 4mm winter tyre limit.
I'd love to hear more about the subjective dry handling from the new test with the Mustang. I see you rated the Michelin highest in that category scoring a 10, with the Conti and Vredestein at 9.5. In previous videos and tests you mentioned the Michelins understeer bias/tendency with not the best feedback. Has this changed or is perhaps size-dependent? Thanks for the informative videos and the best tyre tests on this planet!
As always another good video from you. I run on Hankook Winter i concept evo3 on my BMW 3 series and I must say it is a great tyre. Living in Europe where the winter is around zero Celsius with some or none snow but a lot of rain - they are performing really well. I am so happy with them that I went and bought a summer set from Hankook! Can't wait to try them.
For Germany, in regions where you only get 2-3 days of snow per winter, would you recommend going for an all-season like the Bridgestone Turanza as a "winter tyre" in combination with a proper summer tyre? Or stick to a summer+winter tyre combination??
Recently fitted the lm005's to my current car and i'm liking them, if the wear data is accurate they might wear out before they age out but it'll be a close run thing. I had the wintrac's on my m5 and they were good as well. Projected wear though can be a risky thing tyre wear is rarely linear and heat cycles can make a difference particularly on winters. My original winter tyres (dunlop winter sport 5) wore a lot in year 1, half as much in year 2, then barely anything in year 3 & 4. They were doing fine in year 5 except thanks to covid they stayed on a little longer than they should have and they didn't like the one slightly warm day they were used on. They still have nearly 4mm of tread left on the despite 20k+ miles on them, they out lasted the car. I was hoping they'd fit the current car but the brakes are to big for the small wheels.
Thank you for all your work! Even if the video will be with a few seconds longer, please speak a little bit slower. It will help us a lot for non native english speaker. 😀 I really like your videos!
I’ve used WS80 and it was amazing tire even used performs excellent the WS90 is described as a ws80 but better so if you like WS80 WS90 will make you very happy.
Here’s the thing about wear on winter tires winter is normally seasonal and what you’re truly paying for is safety 1st when it comes to tread wear me personally I can care less if my tire is completely bald after just 1-2 winters as longs as it accomplishes the highest goal safely getting me from A-B and back home safely period. It’s a good thing to calculate but the real calculation should be what’s gonna get me home vs what’s gonna get me into an accident or sent to the hospital or even killed. You pay for value the value is in your life and safety which includes handling and braking control not so much in tread wear life or cost. You can decide but I just think the avg family will prioritize safety 1st over all things when deciding on what tire is best.
Sorry for the slightly messy video, I filmed this a few weeks ago, then immediately made the change to the wear data calculation. I planned to refilm it but I've had a chest infection so no filming possible, and it's so late in the season now I thought I should just publish it anyway!
i saw your comment a bit late :)
Hope you get well soon!
As you asked, I would be interested in a video covering the differences between NA and Europe tires. Really enjoy the channel, even in years when I'm not buying tires!
Get well soon, Jonathan. May your chest / lower respiratory infection heal soon and go away for good. Your videos are by far the MOST TECHNICAL & SCIENTIFIC tyre test videos out there on RUclips. We love you!
Feel better soon. Great video as always.
Definitely would like a video on US Tires vs Europe Tyres …… please 🙏🏼
Agree.
And Nordic vs. rest of Europe :)
Mee too! Please test them.
TIRES VS TYRES WILL HAPPEN :D
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Including a real life tread-wear is a game changer actually. At this point with everything considered Tyre reviews is pretty much the tyre tests authority :)
Thanks :) Sadly we're not quite there globally yet, Autobild and ADAC still test larger groups of tires than I can, but then they have huge teams of people. They're definitely inspiring to me.
You know you are way too much a tire geek when you can recognize all of the tires just from the thumbnail 😁
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Nice!
Selfishly as a Colorado resident, I am so glad you have moved to our neck of the woods so your commentary is gravitating a little bit more towards North America. I have been running all-weather and performance winter tires November through April for the exact climate you have described as your use case.
Which all weather have you been using?
@@tyrereviews Nokian WRG4 SUV since CrossClimate tires tend to be significantly more expensive. I am running Wintrac Pro on my G87 M2 and have found them to be surprisingly good in dry.
@@tyrereviews I have a set of the Pirelli WeatherActives that are on our long-distance SUV which goes from SF to LA to Lake Tahoe and back around. I'm glad you're covering Nokian ATs, I also have a set of those that I put on for off-road trips and they are fabulous, esp. give the hundreds of miles driven on pavement just to get to the dirt....
I'm in Colorado (howdy, neighbor!) and the uptake on Cross Climate 2s (and similar) has been massive which is really nice to see because now people who don't bother with winter tires have proper winter traction.
Agreed!
I run the Michelin Cross Climate 2s on my SUV all year round in my semi-arid part of Western Montana, they're perfect. It was cool to hear Jonathan does the same thing for similar reasons. They do so great in the snow and compacted snow/ice. And I bought them because of Tyre Reviews, no regrets! :)
i have them in the Alps for the family car, they are very good, i have winter tyres on my daily car , the one which go to ski resort often ( snow conditions are usually worse when i go alone than with the kids), the CC2 are more like winter tyres with summer capacities than summer tyres with some winter capacities., the main downside is that they are noisy on highways ( 130/160km/h cruising)
@@vaudou74 Agreed! Not a particularly quiet tyre.
Absolutely agree !!
Same, have had six sets of them now on three different cars, 1x original CC, 2x CC+ and all the rest CC2, and they're very good indeed
Glad you're all liking them :)
I run the LM005 as well. Very pleased with it. Great in the wet and snow of Europe. Wear is not quite as good as some winter tyres, exactly as Tyre Reviews say. They will last me three winters. Other winter tyres I have used tend to last me four winters. I just re-fitted the LM005's ready for winter this morning 👍
Can't argue with their grip!
No tire has ever disappointed me more then LM005. Bought 3 sets in a short timeframe due to excellent test results, but took them off all 3 cars prematurely due to extreme noise production once the tired got older. 2nd and 3rd season were unbearably loud. Running TS850P and GY UG now
@@writeStevie I have the exact same experience.... Not good enough after first couple of years. GY UG has never disappointed... fifth season now and still loads of grip, soft and very quiet.
I have 2 sets of Conti Viking contact 7s on my 2 fwd cars and I’m very happy with them. After 6 combined winters with them in Canada I can count on 1 hand the times I’ve been stuck.
They're so awesome!
I can guess you are satisfied. This Viking Contact is made for (Nordic) dry snow winter conditions. The tested tyre is more for European wet winter conditions, so these tyres are at least slightly different.
I almost forgot to say that the VC tyre has been a test winner for the last few years in the Nordic countries...
So you can't find a better tyre!
Corresponding Goodyear is almost(!) as good in the tests. Slightly better when the streets are wet, but it's the best Goodyear on dry snow. Model name something...Ice 3.
I think I would myself buy the the Goodyear, as the winters are more wet than dry so to speak.
If safety is important and you drive quite a lot, then you choose the best in test tyres.
8:22 I just installed the Bridgestone Weatherpeaks here in Quebec. They are great tires. So quiet in the dry, and performed so good in the 6cm of snow we got last week. I look forward to running them all year long
Glad you like them!
Thanks for including Nokian Hakka R5 and Hakka 10 studded in this video. I always wondered how they stack up against the competition
Finnish made winter tiers are the best in the world 👍
Tire store service manager here. Very curious on the differences between NA and EU tires. Also surprised that anyone has winter tires that age out, as my customers rarely get three full seasons (although many do run winters from October until May). Tread wear is a very important consideration here, so I appreciate you factoring that into the results.
And yes, I talk about "summer-based all-season" tires all the time. It annoys me that "all-weather" isn't an official category yet, although I think it will be soon.
My Michelin X-Ice Xi3s lasted 8 winters and still hadn't reached the wear bars. Live in Central Alberta.
Here in the Pyrenees, my winter tyres normally last about 4-5 seasons. But that is only Nov-Mar and probably only doing about 1000 / month. (Audi A4 Quattro).
In North america people must be driving longer distances.that can wear out tyres.
Glad to see michelin x-ice snow in top 3 nordic tyres. Just bought one and couldn't be happier!
One ? For a unicycle ? 😂
@@AndyC2_ yeah i thought it might not sound right 🤣
@@pavelbratchenko3885 😂😂😂
😅 one winter is all he needs. Drive axle of a robin reliant
Best tire reviews. PERIOD.
(FWIW, living in the "sloppy" conditions of the Northeast, I was going to get the famed Cross Climate2s, but they didn't come in the right size for my 2005 Outback. Ended up with Vredenstein Quatracs and was extremely pleased with their wet-weather performance. They gripped extremely well even at highway speeds in torrential downpours. FWIW, I'm not talking about the Quatrac Pros which have a different tread pattern but are also 3 peak mountain snowflake rated, and also called "grand touring all season" tires by Tire Rack. I don't understand why two tires would have such similar names but such vastly different designs.)
The Quatracs are really awesome, very good in the wet.
I use the Blizzak LM005 which is great on snow & general winter roads. It’s also one of the few with a top A rating for rain.
I would love a North America vs the world for tires. I am in North America and finding a channel with thorough tire content lands me here. I don't get half of the tires shown and have to make informed choices on what I can get based on other reviews and word of mouth. Will definitely watch that if you produce a piece on it. Thanks for all that you do!
You can see which tires parallel the tires that he's talking about or you can watch some of the tests where he was doing tire testing in San Angelo at Goodyear's facility for more localized content. There's also TireRack videos and tests though not as satisfying, but often you find there are a lot of trade-offs with tires and it's just picking out the characteristics that appeal to you, which most of the tire websites already have little engines to help you after a short questionnaire. The thing that we almost see is consistent are mid-tier models from reputable manufacturers seem to be consistently decent and more recent models or revisions seem to take advantage of newer compounds versus much older models. I like to nerd out too though and watch the content and learn.
Shout out to CC2, thanks to your suggestion. Live in Tokyo with occasional roadtrips up north, I feel I get most of what I need out of it without needing two sets of tires. Yes its probably not as good as Blizzaks in -20 celsius but I dont encounter that often enough to justify.
I use Michelin Crossclimate2 tires on my Corolla. I live in Toronto and have similar reasoning to you for selecting the CC2. Winter is usually the occasional snowfall but mostly driving on dry roads. I used to use Michelin X-Ice which certainly are the better choice when it comes to snow and ice but they perform worse on dry pavement than the CC2s. That being said, the CC2 performance on snow and ice is pretty good and not much worse than X-Ice. Having tires like the CC2 is a much better fit for the conditions I actually encounter. Definitely my favourite tires, hands down. The only thing I notice is that in the wet they can be a handful. Not because they hydroplane, quite the opposite. They have excellent wet grip but they pump water so well that hitting deeper puddles will slow the car, sometimes pretty violently if the puddle is deep enough (much more than your standard straight cut tires). You better be holding the wheel right and be prepare to throttle through. Lol
I've been very happy with my Continental Vikingcontact 7's for the last few years. Best of both world. Grips like a Nordic harsh winter studdless, but is smooth-driving like a sporty alpine winter tire. I put them on everything now.
I put Viking Contact 7's on my Mini Cooper JCW for the last winter season here in NYC and although they are great in the snow, the dry handling and braking is not very good. My other winter tires, Pirelli Sotto Zero 3's are much bettter in dry but ofcourse a bit worse in the snow. It all depends on how harsh the winter is going to be I guess. I want to try the PA5's of LM005's next.
Yeah Jon, definitely want to know why tyre differences between US and Europe please. Keep up the great work👍
That's two of us! Great video.
Great video as usual. Understandably this may be expensive but I think it be interesting to see many of your tests on 1/2 worn tires.
As you know, many siping and compound characteristics change throughout the life of the tire.
Thanks for all this information. You do an excellent job in these tests.
that would be so amazing to do, but like you said, VERY expensive!
Please when you calculate the cost add the used fuel in as well. 1 liter of petrol per 100 km becomes 200 l over 20 000 km, in Finland (2 euro/l) this alone is 400 euro for 20 000 km,, which is comparable with the price of the set of tires....
Thank you for all the efforts and love you put into these topics. ❤ Greetings from snowy Austria. 🇦🇹
Thanks for watching!
My main worry when choosing a tire is safety, followed by noise/comfort, followed by wear/cost. I'd love to see tests with EVs happen. While grip and track times can be interesting, I prefer the brake tests and your general subjective thoughts ehrn it comes to safety (i.e. a certain tire is more predictable or makes you more confident or have better control in corners/braking)
Last year after watching your review I decided to buy LM005. I live in Lithuania, and we tend to get snow, ice and etc. One time I was driving on very poor condition, it was mist of rain and negative degrees C°. All the road became black ice. My Tesla Model 3 (awd) felt like regular car on a regular road while driving on black ice. I could feel the bad conditions underneath only while trying to brake. Accelerating, changing lanes was without any problems. I don't know how much of this is new car technology helping me stay on the road and how much this waa tires, but I do reccomend Blizzaak. With 18'' wheel 235/45 I have better energy usage than my summer tires Pirreli P zero.
I have always wanted to know "What all-season tire is the best for winter/occasional snow?" Finally, a definitive answer. Now I can run a summer tire from May-Oct and the CC2's from Nov-Apr.
:D
After one season on the standard 870 with the wife’s Fiesta, I’m in love with Conti. Had some wet / slippy situations at 2C where they said “come at me bro” :) Just got some 870P in W speed index for my FoRS MK3 and they are yet to be driven. They will age before they wear. My last sotto zero 3 on the RS had 6 years and plenty of thread left.
That'll be a fun combination if you get some snow
I have the Pirelli weatheractive's on my 2013 suburban and have yet to drive in snow, but so far the wet and dry traction if phenomenal. Absolutely Phenomenal. I drive on twisty county roads like a mad man and have yet to lose traction. To bad you can't test them, they are awesome.
not living at a winter climate country, but viewing and commenting for the algorithm. great job as usual
I appreciate you
I did a lot of winter tyre tests (including a few on the Test world in Ivalo) and must admit that you, guys, rock! And Michelin CC2, of course. Have them on my Tesla in Sweden, and they are always good enough to feel confident on the road.
Toyo GSI 6 - on my Mazda Protege 5, manual, FWD - is great in snow, I ski all my life, visit different mountains on the season, Toyo GSI 6 really impressed me on a snowy NY state roads, highly recommend. Surprised did not make a list here. I'll try next what you recommended, thank you for this video 👍
I would really love to see a review of tires designed to offer the best range for EV's via low rolling resistance, such as the Hankook Ion Evo. There are now options that can increase your effective range as much as 15% over a standard AS tire, but serious tire reviews to compare what you are giving up for that range improvement are basically non-existent at the moment. I would love to see Tyre Reviews go in depth so I can determine if they are worth it or not in terms of giving up performance for range.
Ditto. There are no good reviews of these tires.
I'm an avid outdoorsman in South Dakota, a place where winter lasts ~6 months. I drive a Subaru Forester and often encounter snowy rural roads and icy highways. For the past six years I relied on Blizzak WS90 winter tires. Where I live if you get stuck your life could be in danger from the cold. They are excellent! On my wife's Subaru Legacy I put Cross Climate 2 for year round use. It had no problems at all with our record snows last winter, and it's very quiet on the highway.
I decided in the spring to put on new Hankook tires on my 2015 XC70 and they were great this season. Now I bought new winter ones and opted for Hankooks again. I knew they aren't test winning but solid results overall and I managed to get them 60€ cheaper per tire than Blizzaks and 100€/tire cheaper than Michelins here. I think given the price Hankooks will give me a good bang for buck and keep it safe. Now I just hope there will be snow in the winter so I can test it out. So far - no complaints regarding Hankook. Great video, looking forward to the next one! :)
Jon, you're an absolute national treasure in two countries. Well done, sir!
I can't wait to see those EV tire tests. There's so much that goes into the spider graphs for how EV-focused that it's completely mind boggling and we need your help to point us in the right direction with the best data. Thanks!!
Love your work, it is very much appreciated! When you pronounce Vredestein it sounded to me like you were saying Bridgestone - I really had to back track and re-listen :)
Vredstone
I'm glad the LM-005 still do so well. My fiance opted for them on his new car as the dealer offered them with his preferred rims for a pretty good price, a few 100 € less than if he had bought the Conti TS 870 P via the internet with the same rims.
I've got the Blizzak WS90 on my tuned diesel BMW 335d (RWD) which has 400hp/600tq and they perform shockingly well - I've driven in 8 inches of fresh snow and not had issues or gotten stuck, and I've also driven during an ice storm where it was slippery under acceleration and hard braking, but I did not slide or crash.
Definitively interested in why North America gets different tyres please!
When I lived in North Dakota I loved the Blizzak WS90s on my C-Class.
Your videos are great and I consult them every time I buy new tires. Have bought 5 tires after watching your videos and all tires have been great 👍
Do you have a 5 wheeler?
@@tyrereviews Sorry, 5 sets of tires for 5 different cars.
As I mentioned under your previous videos, I replaced this year Dunlop WS5 a 5 year-old tyres for Kleber quadraxer3. IAs I realised, despite huge tyre tread, I din not feel safe oon them. Hope to feel sure when winter comes to Poland this year if it comes.....Gread video as usual!!!
Thats cool that you happened to use pretty much the same car I have for the performance winter tire test. I have a track-prepped 2016 Mustang that I occasionally use during winter (I now have another car for winter, but I like to drive the Mustang a bit when its not super snowy out, and when I moved from California to Michigan it was my only car for a couple winter months). I have a set of Bridgestone LM32's on it, and they are great for a lower Michigan winter. People here are surprised I drove a V8 Mustang in the snow, but they seem to always be the same people that have never driven on a winter tire!
That must be so much fun :)
@@tyrereviews Yeah, having tracked it for many years, its easy to control with the throttle. Looked like you wer having fun in that Bullitt as well :)
As always your tire reviews just simply ROCK! I can't wait for you to test the entire Hankook iON EVO lineup. I am especially interested in seeing the differences between the AS and Summer version of this tire. I have the AS version on my Tesla Model 3 Performance and I really do think they are outstanding for efficiency, wear, and comfort. They even performed surprisingly well for drag racing although I think their lateral traction will not be anywhere near the summer version.
I'm excited to test them!
Thank you, this is excellent!
Great video! Love the inclusion of studded tires! Love from north Sweden :)
Looking forward to seeing the review from the Bridgestone Turanza All-Season 6, as i am planning to replace my tires on my winter set, mostly for the wet weather winter climate here in the Netherlands. going to use them under a Z4 coupe.
I have Michelin PA5 255/40-20 on my VW Tiguan and staggered 255/35-20 & 265/35-20 on the Bmw i4, and I love these tires!
Count me in please for tyres vs tires video. Thanks
I would love to see test video of mid range winter and summer tyres like Fulda, Nexen, Falken, Firestone, Kleber, Kumho, Uniroyal etc. 🙏🙏 Great work 👍
👌 Using a WRC studded tire for the photoshoot - gorgeous
I have switched my vehicles to Weatherpeaks after buying them for my RX and taking them to the mountains here in the PNW. Handled slush and powdered snow like my blizzaks! Good in rain, not a performance tire as they are slightly squishy on the road when cornering, quiet, and are wearing as expected. I put the michelins CC2 on my mother-in-laws car and they handle our weather great, just not a fan of the growling noise when the car turns on pavement. Keep up the good work!
I'm reading the studded tyre test and something I'd like you to talk about, too, is comparing to an old tyre. They're using an eight-year-old tyre.
I'm very interested as to how technology has advanced in say 8 or ten years, in things you test, i.e., wet braking, dry braking etc.
Just how good are tyres now compared to maybe 10 years ago!
Your tests guide my tyre buying, especially living in north Europe where we have to have Sommer and winter tyres.
Tack, for all your hard work.
Did you check out the linked test and look at the data? It was surprisingly close!
Yes! Please make a video about the difference between European and U.S. tires! (Or tyres)
I would appreciate and watch a video about WHY the US and European markets get different winter tires/tyres.
As a tire enthusiast and someone who installed them in shops for years. I take the projected mileage with a grain of salt. This is more true for tires that will be in adverse conditions.
A tire that performs badly in the snow, but has a higher mileage rating will likely wear just as fast, if not faster, because it will spend more time slipping and having to be spun on packed snow and ice. summer tires have a similar issue if you spend more time slipping on the pavement because of your hard compound versus gripping and going inadvertently faster
Would love some reviews on the North America tires as I live in the North America and would like the extra data to help with shopping for winter tires. Love the video and love all the hard work and data collected. Appreciate all your hard work in collecting all this data.
yes please do a video about why the tire categories are named differently in NA vs EU!
I really appreciate your thorough reviews. I live in Northern California in the SF Bay Area -- we are "snow commuters" so the paradox for winter is that we need good snow/ice grip in the Sierra mountains but most of the time we are not driving in the snow and we have to drive a long way (350 Km) to get there. Our amazing CalTrans Highway department does an awesome job of keeping the snow off the road so we are often driving on very thin snow/ice or "frozen asphalt". It's not wise to use a dedicated snow tire like the Michelin X-Ice or Blizzak since the rain and dry performance not to mention road noise is sub-par. The Michelin Cross Climate 2 tires seem to fit the bill for my case. I drove these in Calgary/Banff last year for a week and was very impressed.
Sidegraded from 205/45/17 Pilot Super Sport to 205/40/17 Pilot Sport 5 (stock size) on my Fiesta and thanks to your review I am a very happy canyon bomber. ♥️
Living in Germany I use the Vredestein wintrac pro on my sports cars mainly due to the Y rating and good dry handling. Also the wear rate, as mentioned is very good
Would like to see the Vredstein quatrac pro and pro plus, as it seems neat to see how a "UHP" focus all season performs.
Wow! This video was one of the most information packed video this channel has put out. I was able to keep up with the information, I was tempted to play this video at less than 1.0 playback speed, but didn’t.
Never got bored 👍
Keep up the excellent work!!!!
Thanks for the video! Always love your work and recently fitted the Cross Climate 2 as winter tires in Vancouver BC as we get way more wet conditions than actual snow.
Would be great if you had a class leading all season in all your videos to compare how it performs against class leaders in other categories.
Oh and at least in Canada, we differentiate between 3 season and all weather tires.
How did it handle last year's snow storm? As that was a messy affair for most of the coast, I'm thinking of going for a full winter set-up to maximise my traction in our slushy-ice type of snow (especially being RWD).
I just put them on recently so haven't taken them through winter yet. But very happy with them in the wet.
I ran WS80's before and was disappointed with their wet performance in our climate.
I'm on AWD X2 but it's m35i model with over 300HP and the Cross Climate 2's are handing it fine in the dry and wet so far.
@@vstolpner cheers! I’d be moving from a HP-AS so knowing the wet and dry performance holds up is great to hear!
@AwSomeNESSS My crossclimate 2 and WRG4 were fine in that storm, WRG4 stopped a bit better than the crossclimate 2 but never got stuck. The Michelin ice-x were better at stopping but you always have to drive for the conditions no matter what tires you have, even winter tires are not perfect
@@alanb3213 cheers! Yeah, I was looking at WRG4s from the last test, but that’s a little too much loss in dry performance for my car and general use, while the X-Ice would be the same issue for how much time we spend above 10c here in the winter half of the year.
Just got my new X-Ice snow tires installed on my GMC Sierra Denali. Have not had snow yet here in Ontario Canada, but I’m really impressed how these tires drive on dry pavement. They ride much nicer than my Bridgestone DueleR AT that came with the truck
I'd love to see more reviews on mid-tier tires that auto-enthusiasts with a slightly lower budget gravitate towards, ie Toyo, Nitto, Falken, and Firestone tires. I was cross shopping some Winter Performance tires, and couldn't find a lot of data on this specific set, as everyone seemed to focus on the higher end tires that cost $50-$70 more per unit. I wouldn't mind seeing the data on their ultra high performance and 3-season tires as well.
There's quite a lot of data on www.tire-reviews.com that will be useful :)
Here people use winter tires for around 5-8 thousand km each winter. Usually not mounted any more if less than 4mm. Legal limit 3mm.
No video of the Mustang?! I would love to see that! Had a manual S550 and drove it in winter. Would enjoy hearing your thoughts about how the Mustang handles snow.
do a review on defender 2
Got the Dunlop Winter Sport 5 this year and am greatly impressed with its performance. Would have liked to see how it compares
thanks for your diligent research and great explanations! Based on your reviews I threw Pilot Alpin 5 on my FL5 as winter tires
I was going to go with the CrossClimate2, but they were backordered. now that I realize how little I'm going to drive in the cold, I'm glad I spent the extra for the Alpin, they'll age out before they wear out
Tires vs. tyres - yesss, please! 😃👍
As others have suggested, a video dedicated to the tires in North America v. tyres in Europe would be very much appreciated, please.
Can't wait for EU VS us tyre video.
Kudos for memorizing all those weird Tyre names and reciting without blinking
Would love to see a comparison on latest gen runflats
I very much enjoy your tire reviews, so thanks for all the effort you put into them! I'd due for some new winter tires for my Audi A3 TDI (FWD) as well as some new shoes for my Z06 (C7Z tires options are limited!), your channel has become my go-to for recommendations given the actual data to back everything up... So again, thank you for all your hard work!
I bought Cooper MTs 35x12.5x15, siped every lug by hand, and they do well in snow/ice/rain just fine
When the winter wear gets to be too much on the Blazaks, after ~3 years, I run the tires though the summer and save the all season summer tires for the following summer. That way you run the winter down twords becoming illegal, then replaced for the next winter.
tyres vs tires video would be cool
On it!
if you live in britain or similar climate you might as well change to all seasons or have all seasons on all year like the name suggests. winter tires are primarily made for below 0c
Picked up some older Blizzaks with nearly full tread. Hoping for good things, as this is my first set of winter tires. Price/km (mile) should be very good as I drive a lot.
Just for the record, I'm down for as many videos as you want to put out haha. Don't worry about overwhelming us in content 😂
I wish you were the YT Algorithm
I really like my Arctic Claw Winter WXI tires on my 2013 gmc Sierra. Most of the time I don’t need to use 4x4 and I don’t need weight in the bed.
In Finland we have a saying, if its not studed then its not a winter tire
Just looked at the average January temp in Helsinki: -4.5 degrees. It is 2 degrees warmer than Toronto where most people don't even care about winter tires and the studs are banned.
In very extreme cold studless actually work better, apparently. I don't believe it myself either, but there are tests here on RUclips proving it.
@tyrereviews Wait! Did you say you live in Utah? I had no idea! I live in Utah as well and love your reviews. Thanks for your dedication! I use Michelin Defenders in the summer and Michelin X-Ice Snow in the winter on my Highlander. I use Blizzak runflats on my wife's Sienna in winter. And my kids' cars are using Michelin Cross Climate 2 (Rav4 and CRV) year round. They go to school in the mountainous Logan area.
I’ve seen drivers using all seasons on the front wheels and summer on the rear. Would love to see you test this scenario with both winter then all seasons on front with summer on rear to see braking and handling results. And the dangers of mixing.
Already on the channel from a few years back, quite a fun experience (it was winters on the front but same results)
The Michelin X-Ice Snow in America come with a 40K mile warranty so it'll last even longer and provide good winter grip down to minimum tread.
The thing about wear and tread depth is that in most of the EU (if i am not mistaken) if it's below 4mm, it doesn't count as winter tyre anymore.
Sure, you can use the tyre up in the summer (for which the limit is 1.6mm), but under winter conditions insurance copmanies will either not pay or seek regress in case something happens (depending on the type of insurrance), and in those parts of europe where there's a winter tyre mandate in certain conditions or times, you can't use them in said conditions or time of the year as they are under the legal 4mm winter tyre limit.
I'd love to hear more about the subjective dry handling from the new test with the Mustang. I see you rated the Michelin highest in that category scoring a 10, with the Conti and Vredestein at 9.5. In previous videos and tests you mentioned the Michelins understeer bias/tendency with not the best feedback. Has this changed or is perhaps size-dependent?
Thanks for the informative videos and the best tyre tests on this planet!
As always another good video from you. I run on Hankook Winter i concept evo3 on my BMW 3 series and I must say it is a great tyre. Living in Europe where the winter is around zero Celsius with some or none snow but a lot of rain - they are performing really well. I am so happy with them that I went and bought a summer set from Hankook! Can't wait to try them.
If you can get them, Vredesteins are the best I've had when I was in germany.
Nice video!
Will there be a test of the Pirelli P Zero Winter soon?
Because I can't find any reviews... ☹
For Germany, in regions where you only get 2-3 days of snow per winter, would you recommend going for an all-season like the Bridgestone Turanza as a "winter tyre" in combination with a proper summer tyre? Or stick to a summer+winter tyre combination??
Recently fitted the lm005's to my current car and i'm liking them, if the wear data is accurate they might wear out before they age out but it'll be a close run thing. I had the wintrac's on my m5 and they were good as well.
Projected wear though can be a risky thing tyre wear is rarely linear and heat cycles can make a difference particularly on winters. My original winter tyres (dunlop winter sport 5) wore a lot in year 1, half as much in year 2, then barely anything in year 3 & 4. They were doing fine in year 5 except thanks to covid they stayed on a little longer than they should have and they didn't like the one slightly warm day they were used on. They still have nearly 4mm of tread left on the despite 20k+ miles on them, they out lasted the car. I was hoping they'd fit the current car but the brakes are to big for the small wheels.
Thank you for all your work! Even if the video will be with a few seconds longer, please speak a little bit slower. It will help us a lot for non native english speaker. 😀 I really like your videos!
Would you say that the CC2 would be good on a Tesla Model Y in Cororado or Vermont?
I’ve used WS80 and it was amazing tire even used performs excellent the WS90 is described as a ws80 but better so if you like WS80 WS90 will make you very happy.
Why you didn't include Pirelli P Zero Winter? It's hard to find reviews of this tyre but from what I could find it seems exceptionally good for UHP.
Probably not top 3.
Exacty, it's a good tire but doesn't test as well as the ones mentioned
@@tyrereviews thanks for the short review :) Then I'm glad last week I ordered Michelin's.
The best are thinner with higher side wall.
Here’s the thing about wear on winter tires winter is normally seasonal and what you’re truly paying for is safety 1st when it comes to tread wear me personally I can care less if my tire is completely bald after just 1-2 winters as longs as it accomplishes the highest goal safely getting me from A-B and back home safely period. It’s a good thing to calculate but the real calculation should be what’s gonna get me home vs what’s gonna get me into an accident or sent to the hospital or even killed. You pay for value the value is in your life and safety which includes handling and braking control not so much in tread wear life or cost. You can decide but I just think the avg family will prioritize safety 1st over all things when deciding on what tire is best.