TF2 Will Die if This HUGE Bug Isn't Fixed...

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  • Опубликовано: 16 окт 2024
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    Team Fortress 2 (TF2) is a team-based multiplayer first-person shooter video game developed and published by Valve. It consists of nine classes, Scout, Soldier, Pyro, Demoman, Heavy, Engineer, Medic, Sniper, and Spy, and two teams, Red and Blu. The teams try to take the others' objective, such as an intelligence brief case, or a control point.
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Комментарии • 199

  • @ZealotTF2
    @ZealotTF2  Год назад +163

    Free the F2Ps Valve!

  • @Syro-kn7mf
    @Syro-kn7mf Год назад +171

    As a f2p I think this is a amazing idea

    • @tytuberoblox
      @tytuberoblox Год назад

      I agree

    • @Adir-Yosef
      @Adir-Yosef Год назад

      i disagree, why have any sort of bar to use these things the bots already went past that "road block" by either going premium or using a different method for chat sabotage

    • @MoodyDood
      @MoodyDood Год назад +8

      @@Adir-Yosef exactly why removing this restriction wont do anything bad, the only possibility is making bots free to make, but ofc they will still get back to costing money since you can only run a single instance of tf2 at a time. As long as Valve actually does a big thing like linking accounts to week old social Steam accounts and letting the community report and game-ban them.

    • @liberterian1776
      @liberterian1776 Год назад +1

      Imagine being a f2p in 2023

    • @Syro-kn7mf
      @Syro-kn7mf Год назад +5

      @@liberterian1776 :/

  • @inductivegrunt94
    @inductivegrunt94 Год назад +61

    I agree wholeheartedly, give the F2Ps the ability to actually be a part of the community and not just playing the game.
    #freethef2ps

    • @wawacatishere
      @wawacatishere Год назад +2

      #freethef2ps
      i am an F2P who really agree with this, it may cause some F2P to be annoying but atleast they wont be depressed

  • @davidpettigians
    @davidpettigians Год назад +7

    My F2P ass with 600 hours and none of them spent communicating with my team

  • @EmilioMex-fp6te
    @EmilioMex-fp6te Год назад +14

    As a F2P I honestly want this to happen soon to have more team interactions or to avoid being kicked for being falsely acussed of being a bot and not being able to defend yourself

  • @okuu_utsuho
    @okuu_utsuho Год назад +23

    I hope this reaches valve and give f2p a way to communicate with teammates, especially medics.

  • @TheMemeSheep_V2
    @TheMemeSheep_V2 Год назад +28

    Yes, they need to give f2ps voice. #freethef2ps

  • @tinyputiplays2505
    @tinyputiplays2505 Год назад +15

    This is the reason I don't play a lot of casual and play with bots instead because I CAN ACTUALLY CALL FOR MEDIC INSTEAD OF SHOOTING SHOOTING LIKE A MANIAC IN FRONT OF A MEDIC FOR HIM TO HEAL ME.

    • @recoomedoom6117
      @recoomedoom6117 Год назад +1

      bro play skial or something 😭 don’t play with bots lol

    • @taurinebeast61
      @taurinebeast61 Год назад

      ​@@recoomedoom6117skial servers are bullshit. They are moderated by literal babies.

    • @deadmeme8011
      @deadmeme8011 Год назад

      Fucks sake bro just fucking buy something, it costs like two bucks to not be gatekept.

  • @Katy133
    @Katy133 Год назад +52

    The issue is, what would stop bots and bot creators from spamming the mic in large numbers? The paywall helps prevent (but not totally stop) this problem, so Valve would need to find a method to separate human players from bots. A timer as you described is an idea, but can possibly be bypassed by bot makers.

    • @ZealotTF2
      @ZealotTF2  Год назад +25

      They need to ban bots before 50 hours, it won't ever be perfect - there are mic-spamming premium bots currently.

    • @capnMAN
      @capnMAN Год назад +8

      So basically they need to fix the bot problem to fix the F2P problem!
      Marvelous! We have better chances of teleporting bread and it not being an alien!

    • @RAKESH-xw9xm
      @RAKESH-xw9xm Год назад +2

      so ?? f2p players should hav access to commands -- this is not up for discussion , tf2 has tons of new players and f2ps

    • @SuperGuy250
      @SuperGuy250 Год назад +1

      Just make premium more expensive lol

    • @makryd3162
      @makryd3162 Год назад +1

      @@capnMAN this wasn't alien, it was tumors

  • @Dokter9
    @Dokter9 Год назад +5

    As a f2p see a spy destroy my sentry or my team and looking at medics or passing them while burning and having 25 hp not able to call them its painfull

  • @themorningboi
    @themorningboi Год назад +9

    I Think that a good idea would be a kick limit, if you get kicked from the game a certain amount of times under a certain time limit, you get temporarily banned, then if you surpass the limit again you get perma banned

    • @RedGoldDolfin-ez9iy
      @RedGoldDolfin-ez9iy Год назад +1

      But what if you get kicked by bots?

    • @spaceacepl4636
      @spaceacepl4636 Год назад

      mass reports galore

    • @themorningboi
      @themorningboi Год назад +1

      @@RedGoldDolfin-ez9iy That's why the time limit is there, you won't get kicked let's say... 10? 15 times in less than an hour or so. But a bot will

    • @themorningboi
      @themorningboi Год назад

      @@unaincreibleroca3427 that's still a victory, because they will need to respect the cool down

  • @toobad_sosad
    @toobad_sosad Год назад +1

    As a recent f2p, it sucked not being able to call for medic

  • @Haruuki_H
    @Haruuki_H Год назад +1

    This is so bad that f2p cant even say something in chat, im f2p and there was a cheater in round, and i couldnt say that he is cheater

  • @eliescobis9922
    @eliescobis9922 Год назад +1

    i basically dropped tf2 for overwatch the moment i saw that i could not even call for medic or call for spy because at least overwatch does not hate it's players

  • @Tap11283
    @Tap11283 Год назад +1

    idea : if the f2p has 1000 hours of playtime they can now use voice commands, chat, and voice chat

  • @joer121
    @joer121 Год назад +4

    As a f2p this is a good idea please do this I’m not spending money so I can CALL FOR HELP in a TEAM-BASED GAME

  • @inknick2052
    @inknick2052 Год назад +11

    Yea i agree but i dont think this will cause tf2 to die

    • @ZealotTF2
      @ZealotTF2  Год назад +16

      Yeah there's this little thing RUclips has called "Clickthrough rate" that determines how often videos are recommended, so we're pretty much forced to clickbait. TF2 has a cult following, this won't kill it.

    • @EliteCameraBuddy
      @EliteCameraBuddy Год назад +2

      @@ZealotTF2 yeah some peoole even span tags in the description to trick the youtube algorithm

  • @idkwhattonamenguyen7034
    @idkwhattonamenguyen7034 Год назад

    You don't how much trigger I am when I see a spy back stab my teammate

  • @civilsecuritylite12054
    @civilsecuritylite12054 Год назад +1

    Valve can still block the text chat but at the very least still allow F2p players to use voice commands to even interact with their teammates.

  • @molly_with_paws
    @molly_with_paws Год назад +2

    This will definitely fix it But knowing valve the next update is not coming out until the next protest

  • @Nafiur13
    @Nafiur13 Год назад +1

    You technically helped valve, valve wants to kill tf2 anyway game

  • @FairPlayClubChads
    @FairPlayClubChads Год назад +1

    You are asking tf2 devs to change a small detail ...
    We gonna wait 3years for that
    Whos ready to wait?

  • @kristen8481
    @kristen8481 Год назад +1

    I just let them use every chat options in 1 hour

  • @Defnotyeett
    @Defnotyeett Год назад +1

    Just give them text chat, but voicechat if they have premium.

  • @TheKingOfLust69420
    @TheKingOfLust69420 Год назад

    Now I can finally tell them to not kill the friendlys

  • @TorieTheLamb
    @TorieTheLamb Год назад +1

    Frankly, I think valve.. doesn't care if TF2 dies out.
    I always had a feeling that they just blatantly hated the fact TF2 is still so popular, apposed to the newer/other games they've made,
    I feel like, they just don't care, the fact TF2 still managed to live this long is shocking,

  • @JoshMario1364
    @JoshMario1364 Год назад +1

    I thought the same thing the other day! This would be an incredible update since f2p players can at least call for a medic when they need it

  • @xmason8562
    @xmason8562 Год назад +2

    We have the ability to call for a medic with e might be a different key but I think its e

    • @ZealotTF2
      @ZealotTF2  Год назад +2

      Do you have z, x, c menus? They might've already fixed that point.

    • @xmason8562
      @xmason8562 Год назад

      @@ZealotTF2 I don't know, I just got the game thursday or friday. I might be able to check tomorrow

    • @ZealotTF2
      @ZealotTF2  Год назад +2

      @@xmason8562 Looked into this, I think they might've made a change so if you are a premium steam user (have added over $5 to your account), you get access to everything. Which is a good change, but doesn't necessarily solve the problem.

  • @GCJACK83
    @GCJACK83 Год назад

    My thoughts: 50 hours unlocks voice commands. 100 hours unlocks text and mic chat. Spending at least $5.00 U.S in the Mann Co. Store unlocks all 3 right away.

  • @EliteCameraBuddy
    @EliteCameraBuddy Год назад +1

    they have to delete the bits firat

  • @yam5412
    @yam5412 Год назад

    Zealot you explain this so perfectly, and since i couldn't call out for med, i just play skial all day long after a while

  • @probes-e-minor
    @probes-e-minor Год назад

    As a bug, i am professionaly offended

  • @brad9808
    @brad9808 Год назад +2

    Good idea..hopefully valve will listen

  • @BonusQwack
    @BonusQwack Год назад

    The 50 voice chat thing will just give the bots voice chat back because most bots i run into have over 200 hours so that will not help much +it will just make voice chat free for the bots which means no money for valve

  • @beserk7136
    @beserk7136 Год назад

    playing as a f2p on valve's servers is really unpleasant compared to community servers. we don't need much, the medic voice line is very good, maybe even the spy callout and the sentry ahead one as well.
    i understand it's been removed because bots kept spamming them but just a while ago i entered a server with about 4-5 bots that put random noises and earrape in vc as well as spamming voice lines. that's unfair considering that all the bot hoster had to do was to spend 20 bucks, 5 dollars each account...

  • @menacingpyro2005
    @menacingpyro2005 Год назад

    As someone who has many F2P pals who play on community servers so they can speak, I think this would be great so ppl who are new F2Ps can just talk after 50 hours, and they get a notification to tell them this upon booting up the game.

  • @hamburbger428
    @hamburbger428 Год назад

    It’s also stupid that you need a in game purchase along with a general steam purchase i have spent about 250+ on games in steam and still can’t talk

  • @GenericPhantom1
    @GenericPhantom1 Год назад

    I would be playing Casual 24/7 over Uncletopia and Skial if it wasn't for me not being able to talk

  • @DiNi4o2AydenGamer
    @DiNi4o2AydenGamer Год назад

    make voice have a paywall due to mic spam and this idea is perfect

  • @antoninoincontrera8014
    @antoninoincontrera8014 Год назад

    as an f2p that has over 282 hours in tf2 I totaly agree, this block on text chat and voice command is the main reason I prefer tf2 classic

  • @broken_sword501
    @broken_sword501 Год назад

    its a good idea for 50 hours of playtime but the bots can wait in menu screen to reach 50 hours and it won't fully help since bots can still join matches and the playtime will still go up

  • @leonardocupar7927
    @leonardocupar7927 Год назад

    As FP in TF2 I see this as Absolute win

  • @leoje1524
    @leoje1524 Год назад

    I forgot f2ps couldn't even talk or chat lol

  • @limehuzki
    @limehuzki Год назад

    Lol I thought this was one of those zero day vulnerabilities.
    I mean yeah it's slightly frustrating. But not essential

  • @UltraxEmerald
    @UltraxEmerald Год назад

    Just let them speak without restriction. Don’t lock their ability to speak behind a time gate.

  • @daveseviltwin11
    @daveseviltwin11 Год назад

    making it stop after 50 hours would end the entire point because bots can get 50 hours of playtime in a couple days. at that point just remove the block entirely, which is what they should do

  • @fakhrymuhammad4612
    @fakhrymuhammad4612 Год назад

    Really support this idea, since it sad when everyone happen fun moment in chat. Than you just do body language since you can't even talk to them

  • @HeartyMC
    @HeartyMC Год назад

    Theres sometimes some bots that have premium yes they can use voice chat spam voice lines and talk

  • @Random_Starr
    @Random_Starr Год назад

    They just need to add a verification system and the problems solved

  • @jive5861
    @jive5861 Год назад

    i found a fix for this but you have to buy the orange box with tf2 in it to give people voice chat and stuff

  • @skree272
    @skree272 Год назад

    I began playing tf2 after never being able to get a computer myself untill i was 20... It sucked, i died to spies that i couldnt call out, bots were atrocious and i ended up quitting the game...

  • @jag_rex2412
    @jag_rex2412 Год назад +1

    Here's a bright idea how about just let free-to-play players have the ability to speak seeing as a majority of free-to-play games allow you to speak and TF2 is better than that.

    • @ZealotTF2
      @ZealotTF2  Год назад

      If they completely got the bots under control sure, but the bots were spamming audio of CP for a while which is what caused this issue in the first place.

  • @CoffeeIsG00d
    @CoffeeIsG00d Год назад

    I feel like valve would make less money this way so I believe they would never do this, I wish they would tho

  • @Gman18
    @Gman18 Год назад

    It could be done, i have been F2P for a long time
    and finally got my premium stuff, it was cool to be able to talk to people again

  • @cindrblok7948
    @cindrblok7948 Год назад

    good argument. and good work having a more casual voice, coild still use some work tho.

  • @markusip
    @markusip Год назад

    I mean adding voicemenu back to f2p's should be pushed 100% but i seen bots with over 500 hours so i think it wont be the best idea

  • @thundermtn845
    @thundermtn845 Год назад

    This is all my tf2 content rn bc my steam acccount got reported for scaming so I'm just waiting for steam to un vac-ban me

  • @zhaiketoledo3658
    @zhaiketoledo3658 Год назад

    I'm still a f2p after a lng period of time when I couldn't talk and t just hurts not being able to thank or be thanked by the people you had fun with

  • @CatGamer521
    @CatGamer521 Год назад

    Someone pitch this idea to valve

  • @Algeanie3
    @Algeanie3 Год назад

    I was a f2p for the first two months or so of my tf2 time, it was awful, glad i spent precious dollary doos on the funny hat game

  • @PileOfScrap
    @PileOfScrap Год назад

    Thats not a bug, just a bandaid on a missing leg

  • @rexquinones1456
    @rexquinones1456 Год назад

    As a f2p I actually am no joking but I agree you see a team mate which is a f2p might need medics and to alert spy’s I actually think this is amazing thing to do

  • @Samuelguerra763
    @Samuelguerra763 Год назад

    Bots have more than 50 hours for sure

  • @doctaterror
    @doctaterror Год назад

    I don't see how the 50 hours thing matters at all. Do you think bots don't have over 50 hours???

  • @mpmcd8432
    @mpmcd8432 Год назад

    I usually average 1-2 k/d. I have played for a while. Still can’t call for med

  • @der9759
    @der9759 Год назад

    whats the track in the bg?

  • @alface935
    @alface935 Год назад +1

    50 hours? Make it 500 hours and We have a deal!

    • @lilchick27
      @lilchick27 Год назад +1

      So a month of nonstop playing? I still haven't cracked 400

    • @alface935
      @alface935 Год назад

      @@lilchick27 Yeah

    • @lilchick27
      @lilchick27 Год назад

      @@alface935 at that point I'd quite playing

    • @alface935
      @alface935 Год назад

      @@lilchick27 Oh

    • @isaiahenzo641
      @isaiahenzo641 Год назад

      So glad u are not a dev

  • @SpyGaming0226
    @SpyGaming0226 Год назад

    From a fellow f2p, this is an amazing idea!

  • @gomango99
    @gomango99 Год назад

    Valve won’t because they earn more money this way.

  • @Terrormind8
    @Terrormind8 Год назад

    As a ftp i hope this becomes reality

  • @groezelgeel2750
    @groezelgeel2750 Год назад

    That won't work because bots can just idle for 50 hours, and if the F2Ps make it to 50 hours with no talking, most of them are either OK with it or will have bought premium by then.

    • @theldapperapple2382
      @theldapperapple2382 Год назад

      I'm pretty sure tf2 can tell when you idle due to it not counting towards random drops and stuff.i could be wrong

  • @Red.001
    @Red.001 Год назад

    This actually makes sense

  • @OmicronOmega0
    @OmicronOmega0 Год назад

    *text communication is not available for this account*

  • @tangoww
    @tangoww Год назад

    sadly most bots in tf2 have much more than 50 hours in the game

  • @donovanphillips6278
    @donovanphillips6278 Год назад

    Wait F2Ps can’t even use voice commands!? That’s dumb, valve should change that.

  • @AeromatterYT
    @AeromatterYT Год назад

    Just commenting to boost this in the algorithm, I have nothing else to add 🙌

  • @itwasme7869
    @itwasme7869 Год назад

    I have to remind you that most bots are free2play too so they will be more bots spamming voicechat and malicious links.

  • @b4ksti296
    @b4ksti296 Год назад

    Dude this is an Amazing Idea!

  • @mrjameshendry
    @mrjameshendry Год назад

    Agree. Bring back F2P chat

  • @Adir-Yosef
    @Adir-Yosef Год назад

    wow this is somehow both reasonable and unreasonable
    just give F2P the ability to talk again period, doing otherwise is just a bad idea
    it's not like we are stopping anything because chat sabotage is still a thing with today's bots and voice chat spam still exists

  • @-_SZALK0_-
    @-_SZALK0_- Год назад +1

    #Letf2pchat ?

  • @asky-ne7yz
    @asky-ne7yz Год назад

    clickbait but i massively agree

  • @s_callahan
    @s_callahan Год назад

    the slop clickbaiting 😭

  • @lollermann
    @lollermann Год назад

    Idea is debatable. Clickbait title is something I disapprove of. Have a bad day.

  • @HunterTF2stillhuntingforbacon
    @HunterTF2stillhuntingforbacon Год назад +1

    Yeah, good idea valve Free the F2P

  • @zillorannusgaming
    @zillorannusgaming Год назад

    i don't see anything wrong with this so this is a deff W

  • @eclipse_animations
    @eclipse_animations Год назад

    Just let f2ps with hard achievements earned to get premium accounts

  • @theldapperapple2382
    @theldapperapple2382 Год назад

    I gst kicked from ganes as a snioer since im a f2p. I cant twll them im not a bot. I just have to shake my head at them and hope for mercy

  • @voltex9157
    @voltex9157 Год назад

    orrrrr , just give the f2p the old communication , cuz this new system is so bad and pointless

  • @sabschatz
    @sabschatz Год назад

    its not a bug, but all f2ps can use voice commands

    • @ZealotTF2
      @ZealotTF2  Год назад

      No, if you're a p2p steam user, you can use voice commands. So it's better than it used to be but not fixed in that regard.

    • @Haruuki_H
      @Haruuki_H Год назад

      only on community servers, you cant use voice commands, chat in casual

  • @achu1912thebloxfruitplayer
    @achu1912thebloxfruitplayer Год назад

    I am a F2P so I love this

  • @lukebickel9247
    @lukebickel9247 Год назад

    Hey zealot I love your videos now, this is weird ig since I originally didn't like your stuff, but hell I've kinda fallen into your trap hah.

  • @cubicskull1916
    @cubicskull1916 Год назад

    seems fair

  • @captaindeath9321
    @captaindeath9321 Год назад

    I can only hope for f2p bc I have become a p2p 2 weeks ago (sorry for bad English)

  • @andresf6625
    @andresf6625 Год назад

    Premium f2ps lets go

  • @the_apotecary_from_tf2
    @the_apotecary_from_tf2 Год назад

    Amazing idea

  • @charliegunk
    @charliegunk Год назад

    “Bug”?

  • @rockandstone.
    @rockandstone. Год назад

    I Agree With This Idea

  • @pikator9153
    @pikator9153 Год назад

    So this is not a bug

    • @ZealotTF2
      @ZealotTF2  Год назад +1

      Yeah there's this little thing RUclips has called "Clickthrough rate" that determines how often videos are recommended, so we're pretty much forced to clickbait. Welcome to 2023.

    • @pikator9153
      @pikator9153 Год назад

      @@ZealotTF2 i did not know about that "clickthought" thing and thanks for telling me that because it explain a lot of things i've seen on youtuber lately thx

  • @oldmonitor2748
    @oldmonitor2748 Год назад

    uh oh