Hey guys I just want to put this out there as I’m getting a lot of comments regarding this point of mines which I didn’t explain a bit more as a new content creator I’m bound to make mistakes My point regarding that I’m Hispanic, the reason I mention this point is because my land is facing oppressing currently to this day so it would be hypocritical of me to be racist that’s how I think, in no way do I mean that by being Hispanic you cannot be racist because that’s just a stupid assumption as any race can be racist towards one another, I hope you can all understand and forgive my lack of explaining in my video I am not perfect far from it and new to content creating surely will be trial and error I hope you can all be humane and understand anyways cheers and thank you for the support!
Samehere Im not biggest fan of God of War but Sony ruined God of War franchise. Sony is sellout to the west and woke culture. Im hispanic as latin person I'm sick of woke culture nonsense🤢🤮
Same with movies. I want protagonist or characters who are mostly good looking and not someone who resembles me or people that I know in real life. lol
You are definitely right. They could have definitely made it clear that Angrboda or her parents came from the African mythology realm to justify her race-swap! But no, story-writers are too lazy to actually make their race-swaps make sense at all. They only see and care about color and no actual character depth. No wonder GOW Ragnarok lost Game of the Year!
@@Morten_Storvikbelieve Artemis had a black woman too in Gow1 So is nothing new, plus theres other black man in Frey realm, but it aint that important i guess
I agree with you too. If you put, say a penguin character in the middle of the Sahara dessert, that's just "environmentally awkward and weird", not " racially equal". I'm Japanese but I've never wanted an Asian character in AC Origins or Witcher 3 . Such artificial equality will just ruin the coherency and immersion.
Thank you for understanding my point you actually explained it in an interesting way, is like taking a camel and putting it in the North Pole it’s weird thank you for the feedback
GOW 5: kratos'son is "bisexual" now and kratos recognize his toxic masculinity and decide castrate himself as excuses for to be a man, then decide to kill all male gods just talking to them, telling them that female gods are the bestest ever and DESERVE to take over the universe!
Hey brother thank you for being honest not a lot of people have the balls to speak the truth now days and say things as they see them, I would like to add that I did like the game I’ll be putting my favorite scene from the game soon stay tuned I know you will love it god bless!! And enjoy the holidays with the family
@zilo Bro DOES know what it is. And this game is it. That is why it lost Game of the Year. Cry about it and cope loser. If you put less twitter ass woke SJW shit in your game literally made by cucks, your game would have won.
I hated how depowered they made kratos feel they say holding back holding then at the final boss he does nothing and still holds back smh and yeah that 4hour boring walking scene with atreus collecting fruits lol is that even god of war ? what a joke
Yes sir 100% there with you thank you for your view and honest feedback hopefully Santa Monica can switch their way of thinking for the next installment, cheers!
@Kyle Williams Story? That cop out line about him losing his power was in one of the ambient boat rides, not in the main story. Also Greek gods get stronger as they age, did yOu nOt noTiCe zeUs? You keep embarrassing yourself with this simpage and are NOT in twitter. You won’t win here, shut the hell up Kyle.
I agree. Such a pussy of kratos. Why's he's even holding back when a whole family of Gods wanting him and his son dead. Also about the Valhalla DLC, tyre tried to fix him and see his problems in his past. The fans wants a bloody man killing everything he sees. Not some wise ass dude.
This game neutered Kratos SOOO BAD. He lost to “Queen Freya” and that whole fight with Odin where she yells “BOW TO YOUR QUEEN” was so forced and cringy I honestly did not care to actually finish this game. I was so excited but as I kept going I was realizing how politically driven and woke it was. Especially that atreus and black angroboda where you pick fruit and walk for over an hour was so damn annoying. Why are there black people in an old Scandinavian game? Why is freya her brother etc. look Latino or Native Americans? The freya actress is white with blue eyes and is actually hot but they made her uglier, brown, and flat chest. Kratos is not the kratos we know I know he changed etc. but when things go down and crazy he’s still wack. I wanted him to RAGE we only killed Heimdall and the lack of blood and gore was stupid. There were guts and limbs ripped out but here? You’d be lucky if you saw a couple of specks of blood. They don’t make games for fans anymore they do it for woke points and to win trophies at the game awards. Thank God for the Japanese they give us great games, anime and manga hell even movies! American entertainment sucks!
Sweet Baby def had a hand in writing the ironwood section and it will go down as one of the worst sections in gaming history narratively and from a gameplay aspect
I was so excited to play this game because of how much I loved the last one, but I basically stopped after getting Freya as a companion and Atreus running off on his own again. The reason I loved the third game so much was because of the dynamic between Kratos and Atreus and this game just straight up ruined that as soon as I got to Ironwood. I hate everything about that section of the game, and the fact that I couldn’t skip it still infuriated me. Also during this section I found her to be the most useless companion, where every time she lit a torch I had to make sure not to be facing it or else I would be blinded by it turning on, and when she fought the enemies she barely hurt them but succeeded at smokescreening the entire play area so I couldn’t see what I was doing. This game is such a let down from the last one and I paid $94 for it, such a rip off.
Hey man i am sorry to hear that, i feel you, it let a lot of their fans down and is unacceptable for a franchise we love so much to become a game that doesn’t care for their fan base but we gotta speak up and let them know is not ok otherwise they won’t care and continue making the same mistakes hopefully they listen cheers!
@@noot4041 in my latest video i put my favorite part of the game I don’t hate it but this section ruined the pacing of the entire game after that for sure it made a lot of people disappointed specially the OG fans of god of war im just speaking on his behalf
@@noot4041 i love people that have an open mind and can see other peoples opinions and try to understand where there coming from i really appreciate you commenting your thoughts thanks for being awesome
I completely agree with you on Ironwood. I enjoyed 95 percent of the game but that single chapter was the longest drag of filler that i remember playing in a game in a very long time. I dont care about collecting fruit on a yak in a swamp in a GOW game. Im debating if i want to go ahead and trade in the game now while i can still get a lot for it or if i want to keep it for my collection. If Ragnarok gets a New Game Plus, I would love the option to skip that chapter entirely because i dont know if i could grind though it again.
Exactly my thoughts while I was playing this mission, it felt like anything other than god of war well said brother I appreciate your honest feed back thank you for your view and opinion
Any one who has a respect for Norse culture and beliefs all know what Angrboða is supposed to be. She certainly isn't black. She certainly isn't human. She certainly isn't a trust worthy or kind individual. What makes this representation of Angrboða so aggravating is the reasoning as to why they made her that way. It's pure pandering, virtue signaling, and race baiting. There is an entire Pantheon of black Gods and Goddesses in which the devs could have decided to make a game about. Instead, they chose Norse Gods and Goddesses and they did it specifically to eventually change them all around to meet modern day stupidity. It's even more aggravating when we all know for a FACT that if they did make a GoW game based on the multitude of Black Gods fro macross Africa, NONE of them would be white, therefore, respecting the original source material. Even if it's just 1 insignificant character from the Völuspá, there are people out there (myself included) who do not just live these stories and teachings but actively believe them. Every bit of text we have, the Hávamál, the Eddas, everything, is a faith and a religion to many Norse Pagans. It wouldn't be a huge issue if we didn't live in the time we live in now, with far leftists destroying race relations with their woke divisive puke and companies trying to pander to groups of people who don't give a shit about them. Even though I would still find it annoying, it wouldn't be anything worth flipping shits over. That is just not the case now. The far left is always talking about respecting cultures and beliefs (something I actually agree with them to an extent) and you know what? I'm gonna hold them to it. My Norse Paganism culture ought to be respected. Some of the Gods in this game are obviously touched by some artistic freedom but for the vast majority of them, they are respected in their design and attitudes. I want mods to come out to make Angrboða, a Giantess from Jötunheimr, to be white (therefore respecting the culture and people of the time), and give her a ferocious attitude that would immediately make anyone know she is not to be trifled with or trusted. She brings about the 3 forces, sorrow, and grief, to bring upon the end of the Aesir, the twilight of the Gods.
100% agree with you. It went beyond just race swaps though, things like Kratos being afraid of Freya and her saying she could whip him and Kratos refusing a rematch......WHAT?? Yes, she is the queen of Valkyries but Kratos is the god of war and killed an entire pantheon, so i seriously doubt Freya is gonna be able to beat him down. BOW TO YOUR QUEEN!!! There was sadly quite a bit of "the message" in this game and its such a shame. Its not about being an incel or anti black or whatever ist or phobe people decide to use, its about these things not making any logical sense.
Kratos does not fear Freya. In fact in an unmissable, unskippable scene, Kratos says that he would defend himself, but never kill her, due to the fact that she saved Atreus when he was sick.
@@Mister_Black_Shirt Please don't try to imply that i didn't play the game because i did and i finished it. Now allow me to correct you, the scene you're referring to is Freya asking Kratos why he did not fight back when she found him and Atreus all times she was hunting them and happens BEFORE the scene i am referring to. After the scene you mention, she is riding with Kratos on the wolf sled and tells him that she would of killed him and asks for a rematch. Maybe you didn't play game or perhaps you just saw something different than other people did and that's fine. You can have a differing opinion but don't try to say people didn't play the game because they think differently than you.
@@yocouch485 He said that every outcome would mean defeat, because he owes a debt to her, that being due to Atreus being SAVED by her. Also, there is no wolf sledding scene in that ENTIRE REALM whatsoever. Also, I was just saying the cutscene was unmissable to explain that the only way you could miss it, is if you're being just plain ignorant. And also I was mainly responding to your claiming of Kratos fearing Freya.
@@Mister_Black_Shirt Once again you're talking about a different scene to the one i am talking about. I know the scene you refer to and as i said it takes place much earlier on. There is a wolf sledding scene but i never said it was in that realm, it occurs much later in the game. I have taken the liberty of finding it for you ruclips.net/video/IAeAbeWmkdg/видео.html So there you go, you are incorrect my friend. Perhaps it is not me who is being ignorant. Like i said you are entitled to your opinion and i respect that but please get your facts straight.
I really wish they had kept the game style and combat from GOW 1-3. The game was a great hack-and-slash a la devil may cry, then became a generic naughty dog adventure. GOW 1-3 and Ascension are equally amazing.
I don’t think that’s what did it for me but yeah you’re not alone in this sentiment many OG fans have the same mentality as you, for me the most disappointing aspect of this game Ragnarok was the story, the meaningless characters, the weak ending to the Norse pantheon, the ragnarok battle itself was so embarrassingly bad also Kratos felt very weak like a push over by Freya, by thor and the all father.. the little inclusions solely for ticking boxes in their diversity aspect I don’t know looking back at the game you can clearly tell it was not a good game the Yak mission it was an uncompleted game with tons of potential the Norse pantheon is very rich in lore and they absolutely butchered it anyways that’s my thoughts at-least thank you for the honesty
African American male here. I played and beat the God of War Ragnarok. I really don't understand why there was 3 black characters in the game. The girl in this game was useless she just served as a plot point for the death of Odin.
Cheers couldn’t have said it better myself, they need to get back to the basics and make games that we as fans enjoy not that have hidden agendas behind it thank you for sharing your thoughts 🙏
@@cosmickeyboard9811 cheers on that brother I’m happy you enjoyed the game like I said I don’t want them butchering our favorite character I give this example a lot because he’s my favorite Marvel super hero since being a kid Blade, hes awesome a black vampire hunter with epic weapons and bada*s style, I know he’s a fictional character so it wouldn’t matter if they maid him white right??? Of course not people would go wild myself included on why an already established black character that was amazing as it was, was raceswapped it would make no sense… it wouldn’t matter but you would still feel that it was wrong to do so and that’s simply what I’m putting out there the hypocrisy and double standards of this people, btw atleast blade was super interesting and had an amazing Arc can you say that about angroboda? Idk you might be the only one that does regardless cheers and thank you for all your opinions on the matter!
@MasterMarcos personaly i believe angroboda isn't nothing like blade. The truth some people don't wanna hear is the majority of popular fictional characters are white, both live action, games, and in comics. If every character stuck to their same race as their comic book or lore character they'd be white and for voice actors and live action actors it would cater more to just white people, would be kinda unfair. If this was thor or Odin I'd understand it being a lil silly but angroboda? I didn't even know her character before GOW, so her being black isn't butchering anything, people who do like angroboda shouldn't be so attached to her race to the point where they are literally mad about it, because race isn't what her character is about. Characters like black panther and storm are way more connected to the color of their skin AND popular black characters aren't as common as white characters so ofc they stand out. Messing with legacy character like Thor, iron man, superman, ect. Is too far but side character and multiversal version of legacy characters is not a big deal. If personally you are agitated by that then that's ok, but I hope you know that your opinion is simply just your opinion and from what you've commented I'm happy to see you only view it as your that their butchering the character and not a fact that they are. Opinions is what make us different.
@@cosmickeyboard9811 ofcourse angroboda is nothing like blade is a simple comparison just because *you personally* dont know who angroboda is does not mean other people don’t, in Fiction she’s well established and had a very important role with the asiers and the lore so your opinion there is flawed, also i don’t care if they make a random character black i would still be like ok but would not really care because he was created with a whole new arc and not stealing another Fictional Arc and yes i think games can get away with raceswapping like they did in this game but it doesn’t make it right im just saying the game is intentionally doing that with a “message” behind it not because they created an interesting character i mean no one likes angroboda as a character shes not intresting, shes annoying, shes boring and yet we are supposed to love her thats what the developers want you to do, and to your point that theres more white characters than blacks in that department brother you are still living in 1960 every movie or game i see has blacks, gays and hispanic in them go to netflix maybe that was 100 years ago but now days for you to say that lol, i respect you a lot because you have a good attitude and seem like a very cool guy who has his opinions but my point in my mind is valid and i see yours too so no matter how much we disagree I don’t think we will meet middle ground in this matter but i wish you would continue to rate my content because in all honesty i like different points of view from everyone so ill be seeing you my broski let me know what you think of my last videos 🙏
I think atomic heart handles politics pretty well, it has a lot political undertones but it serves the story instead of inserting so and so just to spread diversity and inclusivity, or to single out a certain ideology. Glad there are people like you who stands on their own opinions.
I might have to give that game a go, and np brother im pretty sure you are an honest person as well so im glad two like minded individuals have a platform to greet each other, and yeah i agree with your statements
Nobody even seemed to notice that literally 90% of the animals in this game are also female. Even Nidhogg was a female creature. Also; they slightly tilted the camera UP in this game compared to GOW2018, to barely show Mimir at all, you could clearly see his face and expressions in 2018 and in this game he's basically invisible, that was on purpose. Barely any male representation at ALL beyond Kratos who they turned into an emotional Freya-Simp. I am going to wait on buying the next game, I pre-ordered the first 2. Good job Santa Monica, great game ruined by feminism and inclusion.
Im gonna make a review of this game. But while i was playing this bro i felt alot of pointless characters and bullshit. Thors daughter Thrud was pointless. When Freya tells Odin at the end... Bow before your queen "stupidest line in the game because Freya never mentioned she wanted to rule the world. Angerboda was an affirmative action hire... And another pointless ass character. They game didnt have the badass God of war feeling like the past games. This game felt too soft for a norse medieval fantasy game. Its a shame because even the dialogue feels like modern day small talk. I dont wanna play a game and be reminded of the modern day. So yes this is why Elden Ring deserves Game or the Year
Anybody can relate no matter if your black Asian white or Hispanic is not about race, angroboda simply does not make sense in this game, they don’t give her any interesting back story or anything I think people who disagree are just afraid of being censored by the developers or are just too in their own mind to realize it like always thank you for your honesty 🙏
I'm glad I'm not the only one. People seem to call you insane for having a different (relevant BTW) opinion. Odin is shown to be comically evil "man" just for the sake of it. Certain things he did which scream woke politics. At least Zeus had good points when he went about his ways as expected from the leader of a pantheon. Thor and Odin are just shown to be stupid at times. All the female characters including Freya are shown smart and know what they are doing. Freya lectures kratos so many times on the topic of wars and feelings that it becomes insufferable. Her overacting is cringe especially in the Odin scene. I'm a Pakistani guy who does not want woke messaging. I've been playing games since 6 years old. I love to heck out of San andreas too. Never once did I say "where is the middle east representation" or where are all the stronk whamen. Don't even get me started on tlou 2. It seems the radical left has a new target. The gaming industry. Ragnarok wasn't bad but it was full of covert and overt virtue signaling. I love the original GOW games. Many casual say it's just blind rage hack and slash. But they have and amazing deep lore when you look into them. A lot of which carried over.
@@ValorCast1 truly unfortunate. Even when I watch movies, it's old Hollywood. Especially All of Al pacinos films. Old movies had taste and amazing writing. When men used to rule entertainment (not evil patriarchal way but balanced). These people will soon call nature sexist now. I hope japanese Devs don't cave in. Fromsoftware and sucker punch is maybe the only two not woke rn. Elden ring was AAA heaven. Ghost of tsushima got robbed. I'm sure you know how and why. They were slamming it for not having enough female leads. Lady masako had an entire lesbian liver storyline. Thank god its was not overdone.
@@vergil1155 I recommend watching netflix peaky blinders if you want a new amazing series or the terminal it has controversial topics but they dont push an agenda onto the viewer and i agree legend its a really sad time to be entertained you cant make jokes anymore everything has to scream political messaging onto it and include every color of the rainbow into films its crazy
Well said, I’m glad more people are stopping to fear the big hypocrites that make this games only to have subliminal messaging in them and to have their views imposed on their customers thank you Marcos I really enjoyed this
Thank you for sharing your light in this matter I appreciate it and yes i love god of war i just don’t want my favorite franchise to become anything other than god of war keep inclusivity out of our games just make them fun and interesting and most importantly true to the lore
Well said brother…!!! This thing with the black promotion in pretty much everything just for the sake of diversity is ridiculous, disrespectful and totally racist towards other people. How would it feel for the blacks if i make a movie with Nelson Mandela and put a Swedish actor to play him?! This coming from a Greek, Mediterranean in origin. Not everything is black and white in this world!!! Great video!! 🙏🏼🙏🏼
Nothing against any race brother, but everything has its time and place thank you for sharing your honest thoughts and I appreciate your kind words cheers 🙏
Please....don't go there...I mean Hollywood has made entire movies about Ancient Egypt and the entire cast was White. They even made Jesus Christ white
Well given Kratos migrated from Greece, I think you point out that isn't ridiculous to think someone could have come from Africa at some point before and had descendants... It really didn't need an entire explanation. And the section is there because people complained about not being able to explore all of the 9 realms in the last game. So her section was a vehicle to explore Jotunheim when almost of the giants are gone. It helped build more than the usual, generic/lifeless approach that they could have taken. A "race swap" is hard to be a cause of concern with just how many other liberties are being taken in the mythology (and logic) already.
Well said I like how you think, first I wanna thank you for taking your time to watch the video and sharing your thoughts on the matter, however I will have to disagree with what you said about It not mattering for angroboda give us more of her story and background the chapter itself was hated by all fans on my accounts I haven’t had a single person disagreeing with me in that point maybe you will be the 1st I hated the mission and hated angroboda for the simply fact that she was a diversity cast member only, I get their not going by the lore but let me give you an example, blade is a black vampire hunter amazing movie one of my favorite characters, sure it wouldn’t matter for them to change the color of their skin because he’s fictional, but why would they? People would be really upset about changing something that already worked and just butchering them for the sake of inclusion, I would of loved for angroboda to have an Egypt origin or an African origin and hopefully Santa Monica can hide that in there in the future game because in this one their explanation was the dumbest and racist thing ever OH simply because black people exist, I hope you also see my point in not wanting and ideology or mandatory diversity added in our future games, just care about making a fun game and make us feel appreciated for buying your products, anyways brother cheers and blessings thank you for your feedback, I would love for you to tell me what you think on my last video I made if you could as I’m interested to see what you have to say and If you like please subscribe for more as you have a friend here
Dude it doesn't matter what plausible backstory you put behind it. If they did it because propaganda came first & they needed to check some diversity check box then it it's just bad. Take this as something like they are just testing the waters on how much they can get away with.
@@TheAbhimanj my "plausible backstory" is in direct response to what is in the video... My actual point is that people are overly focused on one "aspect" despite the other liberties taken which are just ignored. Kratos is Greek, it's past being just a "Norse" story... If the outrage were actually valid, the complainers would simultaneously being really losing it at all the depictions of white Jesus or whatever.
Hold on a second.There were a lot more people that had an issue with Kratos being in the 2018 series reboot, than what we see in this case. Basically Santa Monica did a character swap with Kratos because they were too afraid of just launching a new IP in norse mythology. People stopped complaining because this is the second game & 2018 was a success.
It actually makes way more sense having ancient Greeks on the northernmost parts of the world because ancient Greeks had visited them many times (pytheas voyage on scandinavia, Minoans mining copper from lake superior canada) they even had a name for scandinavia which was hyperborea, while Egyptians, Nubians, Ethiopians or any other ancient brown or black race had never made it to the north pole, not even near it .
Spot on, it's not only that they race-bent a frost giant like Angerboda (which even Assassin's Creed Valhalla got right with blue skin and red hair which is one of their most common appearances) but what makes it far worse is that they didn't even bother to explain why she is African!, it's so condescending and lazy, proves it was only done for tokenism only.
I agree, also the game isn’t that great anyway, it should have been 2 games series ( Ragnarok ) and I’m pretty sure they realized that at the start of Ragnarok part, the game at that moment was just rushed, the whole event this final game revolved on was Ragnarok and it was shorter than this garbage part with Angerboda? Like seriously? All we did was kill couple of enemies, fight with Thor and Odin, this is what Mimir described as the twilight of the gods? It was a once in a lifetime chance to make the greatest game ever but they ruined it, they could have done what they did with the old franchise, they could have triggered the events that lead to Ragnarok like GOW 2 with changing fate and the titans, and then make the newer game all about Ragnarok, but it is what it is.
Yup very rushed it’s sad because it had potential and Santa Monica had made some amazing games over time im currently playing GOW 1 and man it feels so different to gow raganrok in a good way, I needed to go back to the basics because this isn’t god of WAR, anyways happy holidays merry Christmas make sure to check out my TOP 10 things we as players want next in god of war video and let me know what you think I’m a comment and if you like it please subscribe and like for more cheers brother!
Luckily, the majority of people actually like this game and aren't offended by the way characters were presented, such a shame some people are so easily triggered by certain elements
Good that you feel that way I’m truly happy it met your expectations, the game was fantastic in certain areas but we as gamers should also voice out our dislikes for the game, regardless of how I feel I purchased their product and platinum it, I feel this chapter was entirely pointless and boring so I called out, and I’m not triggered I don’t hate the game, I do hate this section however and as you could see plenty of people do so as well but some are even scare to speak out on the matter so I’m their voice and they’re my voice as well anyways thank you for sharing your view and cheers! Hopefully we can agree in the future in another video brother
@@ValorCast1 yeah the title is kinda misleading, but I'm glad u didn't let certain elements ruin your overall experience, just weird the title calls the game garbage
@@cosmickeyboard9811 yeah I meant chapter garbage, lol I’m new at this video things bro and tbh I just want to hear you guys opinions I really enjoy them
@@davidspearim5552 they could’ve had a way better chance they were somethings in their power to make the game a better overall experience they didn’t lose by much, thanks for the feedback
Yeah I agree, the section itself was garbage and I don't even understand why it's there in the first place. I don't think this section ruined the entire game or made the combat less fun but it's still boring and useless. Like you said, there's no reason for why Angrboða is black or whatever, nor for Járnviðr (Iron wood) to be this "chill" and "relaxing" place. You know it's bad when people agree with something UnderTheMayo said 😂😂
@@kylewilliams5454 yeah make a Scandinavian Black just because she doesn’t have a clear depiction, she has red hair, now that I think about it I never seen a black woman with red hair before have you? Also black Vikings where a weird occurrence in the Norse Pantheon why do they need to be represented in a white majority demographic makes zero sense, and not only that did you like collecting fruits for 3 hours in a Yak? How come you like this character so much
So many things wrong in this game lol now looking back at it when I made the video I left out so many wrong things of this game you might have inspired me to do a video again
And people defend it, all I said was imagine for a second this was reversed that we go to Africa and made a god of their origin white I mean nobody can give me a counter to that statement because what I said it’s the truth I don’t care who I offend as long as it’s the truth now if I’m lying in something I would take the video down because I hate misleading people into false narratives, but the double standards and hypocrisy of this people is out of this level
I agree, Political agenda's should never be in video games, I don't mind politics in games as long as they're not trying to push their political agendas in games.
i am from india punjab, i love gaming , i played many games from childhood , my father introduce me to gaming as i watched him play games when i was a child recently i felt gaming is not fun as it used to be , i thought maybe i am in my 20s thats why? i didnt knew anything about woke stuff and all, but found out that wokeism was the reason i was not able to enjoy gaming anymore see i didnt even knew about that stuff and still my brain said : hey its not fun something is fishy my favorite games are Resident evil series (number 1 always) prototype 1 and 2 , alan wake ( not 2 ofc) sekiro dynasty warriors games dragon ball i have played company of heroes also i still enjoy old games , new AAA are just not fun i want old golden gaming era to return and ban wokeism in games and movies
Very good review, man. Kudos to you for not being afraid to speak the truth. An interesting tidbit here is that one of the main reasons this game’s story lacked, and the main reason for the race-swapping and the at times truly cringy dialogue is a company named Sweet Baby Inc., whose main and only purpose is to infuse wokeisms into games. They have been involved with some of the biggest names in the gaming industry to put more “diversity (which somehow always defaults to more black, rather than Hispanic, Asian, Eastern European, native Australian, or middle-Eastern characters) into games. So far they’ve fudged up this game, Alan Wake II, Forespoken, and quite a few other games where you really noticed the wokification in the game. Interestingly enough, this “diversity” always comes at the expense of cultural accuracy (a NORSE goddess who chooses to identify as a black girl? Really??), story cohesion, and immersion. Respect to you for pointing out the obvious, which so many people try to ignore.
glad i pirated this game. i thought angrboda was bad enough but then they raceswap her grandma and then hildisvini as well for no reason. it's a game about NORSE MYTHOLOGY in a SCANDINAVIAN setting. this is as ridiculous as making a game about zulu tribes in africa and then making the characters white.
The game was epic I will make a new video soon with my favorite part of the game I’ve platinumed the game twice now, I have nothing against it but this part here please let us skip it lol anyways stay tuned to that video ik you will love it thank you for sharing your feed back
Angryboda was the most irritating and condescending character in the game.... and the part just goes on and on.... thats when I realized that this is not the Santa Monica studio that made God of War 3. All those talented people moved on long ago.
Right? Thank you for your balls in speaking the truth friend I appreciate it check out my latest video on ghost of Tsushima you’ll like it I’m sure/ and yes you could feel the presence of new devs in their latest game the game felt awkward and felt like they were scolding Kratos all of the time
I think it's more a case of Santa Monica cynically box-ticking. Every entertainment business is operating under these ridiculous inclusivity clauses (and remember most of it is enforced by their own internal company HR departments). This is why advertising is so completely at odds with reality. Over representations leads to disorientation (and distortion) and ultimately undermines any attempt to accurately portray reality in any given setting. This is self-evident in a game like GoWR - a Norse mythology (at this stage). Personally, I love diverse racial casting, but only if it makes sense within the context in which it is occurring. If it doesn't, it jars, it feels crowbarred in, and it breaks the audience's willing suspension of disbelief. If it is done with even a modicum of care the audience won't even notice it - it will therefore be entirely unremarkable (in fact, it will be expected). Etc.
One thing that i really hated about these 2 games(norse version) is that the gameplay is ridiculously easy. I killed a lot of bosses with no sweat in the first game, same for ragnarok. I've been playing god of war 4 and the combat was way better than the current one. The story bosses are so fucking easy. When i finally had the chance to kill Heimdal, His hp fell so easily and smooth. I was expecting it to be very had and exciting, But no. This old man killed him in fucking seconds. Also the difficulty on this game is just getting damaged more and more in the higher difficulty. Just make the game harder.
Dude, seriously. She is a shapeshifting frost giant. She can literally take whatever form she wants. Most of the game we are literally playing as a greek god being the catalyst of Ragnarok and Loki himself is literally part greek god. The God Of War series has never been 100% accurate to the myths and people take issue just because the *shapeshifter* has black skin? People deserve being told off for that because it`s nothing but petty bullshit. And while the Ironwood section may be slow on a second playthrough, from a story perspective it`s very good character development for Atreus. There is more to the game than the combat you know. The game won " best narrative" for a reason. As for Angrboda and the flower, she literally did not understand the gesture because she has not interacted with people. It was a JOKE . Honestly this was just petty.
She’s not even considered a shapeshifter in GoW, I’ve heard this crazy theory before saying she could have switched to a black person in Norse setting it’s crazy ridiculous that you think a predominant Giantess in Norse mythology would shapeshift to a black female lol, but hey more power to you, when we go to Congo I want all the African gods race swapped to white keep the same energy my friend and that way I’ll be happy, if not it’s double standards and diversity hire only/ they need to stop black washing other ethnicities, and mythologies, Norse religion is white the gods are white the people were white it’s not African deities this are Nordic Viking characters no my friend you are petty/ This section in the game Trash/ Angroboda is Trash/ Her diversity cast is disgusting/ the game was way better without her in it
@@ValorCast1 Dude, i am Norwegian. Norse myth is literally my culture. And i am telling you that Angrboda is a shapshifter just like Loki and there is nothing wrong with said shapeshifter having black skin. Especially since she is in hiding from genocidal gods.
@@Morten_Storvik you could be Norwegian and not speak for Nordic culture and traditions, let’s pretend for a second that Angroboda would shape-shift to a black girl, back in those times there was tribalism between races, so her turning into a black African girl in Scandinavia would make no sense as she would get targeted due to territorial disputes and tribalism, so that’s out of question and yes while I do agree that’s it’s fictional which I’ve disputed with 200 other comments the same thing YES it’s a game so if NORSE mythology is fiction, can we make wakanda all white, can we make all Aztecs Asians do you see how many doors you open by suggesting that this is fictional? No they did this with a clear intention, to push diversity, this was a token race swapped character, idk how you can defend such atrocity gameplay was boring lore was not accurate, and race swapped a character? If you like Angroboda and ironwood section in Gow Ragnarok you’re not a real gamer to me nor have my respect
@@ValorCast1 It literally IS my culture and traditions for crying out loud 🤦♂🤦♂ Furthermore, you realize the vikings went to Africa right? There are artifacts like african coins and skeletal remains found in Scandinavia. There are even carvings and other artwork depicting vikings with african features. Meaning that there were straight up *black vikings* . And like i said before, while the Ironwood section might be slow on a second playthrough, from a *story* perspective it is actually great. And in case you did not notice : these two last games have been very story focused. As for Angrboda, her character is funny and there is nothing wrong with the damn shapeshifter having black skin, especially while she is in hiding. The *actual vikings* were more accepting and diverse with skin color than you are about a fictional *shapeshifter* in a game.
You don’t have to be white to hate this garbage if i was black i would be so over this racist shet the government thinking they owe me something for the color of my skin would be the most degrading thing they could do to me
Tbh her mission was boring I agree with you Idk about the race swap but they could have definitely make her more interesting anyways I appreciate your honesty 👍 well done
@@kylewilliams5454 yeah sure Kyle whatever you say 000000000000.01% black Vikings that needed to be interpreted in the story of the whitest demographic before Christ sure you make a lot of sense.. yeah she’s perfectly as she is a black woman in Scandinavian Lore, man I can’t wait to go to an African pantheon and see a white god there lol just to laugh at the double standards you Social justice pretender warriors would cry out over.
@@ValorCast1 There were black vikings at Vikings travelled the globe. They were called Heljarskinns. And Angrboda has no documented race, so either way she isn't white. So there is nothing to race swap. And just like with Thor's design if y'all did your research in actual north mythology than you would know better.
@@kylewilliams5454 what research are you basing yourself on? Wiki pages lmao? Sure there might have been some ultra rare black Vikings maybe but they didn’t need to be represented as they’re a minority and don’t represent the group at all, just like in Africa the warriors there were all black maybe there was 1 white dude but he didn’t represent the whole Lore, your statement is flawed angroboda is a horrible character in this game and whoever doesn’t think so in my eyes is not a real gamer she’s is a horrible depiction of Norse mythology she looks more Egyptian than actual Scandinavian
I´m Scandinavian , and what I got from the discussion is it´s not a problem since the game isn´t historically accurate anyway so next Halloween party I´m going dressed as a Masaai warrior with a native American headdress and face paint doing a fake African accent. It´s not historically accurate so must be ok? Dressing up a black/asian girl in fantasy pseudo norse clothes and her doing a fake "kula rop" is about the same levels of cultural appropriation. Which I would be cool with if it wasn´t that the same people defending this cries about cultural appropriation and stuff when kids dress up as American natives on Halloween or white cosplayers use face paints. If they want black people make a god of war set in some African mythology. this is just lazy.
@@ValorCast1 they even neutered the grandma, Gryla is in icelandic saga´s a monster that eats children. But here she is black so ofc she is just missunderstod and hurts animals because she is sad because white man is evil. Would have been a much better game with a twisted evil baby eating ogre lady that Kratos violently destroys. Nah , here you shot a f--ing pot and the old lady cries. (though in the myth there is no relation between Angrboda and Gryla, I don´t think they are even part of the same set of stories). ah well. these are the times I guess.
Cant have the black people be bad, they’re so much better, morally they can’t possible be bad.. haha i agree its a comedy at this point valid points brother
ironwood was so boring, I was playing this with my cousin and he overhypes the hell out of god of war, but when he got to ironwood even he admitted it was boring, we quit god of war for a few days cause of this mission.
It's proof of the woke hypocrisy when they tokenize Angbroda and call us racist for calling it out when the whole world, for the most part, was okay with black Heimdall in Marvel's Thor. But to double down on their ridiculousness, they leave Heimdall white in GoW-R. Why? I would have been okay with him being black. Oh wait. He's a bad guy and god forbid they make a black character the bad guy that bullies little white boys. Same with the boar dude, it was ridiculous. I loved God of War and enjoyed Ragnarok, but I I'm done. I bet that the next God of War will continue the hypocrisy and might be dumb enough to make Angbroda a mary sue.
What a brainless dumb assumption..When you come up with something better than the racist word which has lost all meaning as of recently come back and say something worthwhile thinking about
Since you don’t understand anything apparently, go and keep calling other people racists for having different opinions besides yours, here that word has no significance.
I agree with you. I hated when Game do lots of walking and extended talking specially in a linear game like this. The game's world just look empty because of it. I understand the talking and walking if it's a Big Open World Game but not a God of War game, It only exposed that Santa Monica sucks at story telling specially those long/big storyline. They should go back to simple storytelling with lots of actions.
Thank you for your honest opinion my brother and unfortunately I don’t think god of war is heading in that direction as I stated in the video I create today called my heartbreaking review of god of war, but I agree 100% with you brother thank you for the support cheers!
The gameplay was phenomenal but some things didn't make sense, i won't go into details here because there's no point but the whole "every aesir is evil and every other realm is noble and good" sounds very familiar, oh except for the aesir women of course. Doesn't take a genius to figure out what's wrong with the narrative. Either way, the gameplay is what saves this game for me
Wow I had not thought of that very great point, Yes it’s sad people can see through subliminal messaging an inclusivity and diversity added in game with no point other than to pander to a woke agenda I’m glad a lot of people can think outside of the box thank you for sharing your light in this matter I appreciate it blessings 🙏
Thor wasn't evil. He was manipulated by his father and used as a tool. He made this revelation just before he died. He thought he was doing what was good for his family. Thor was an antagonist sure, but he was not evil. Not all of the male gods were evil either. Freyr sacrificed himself to save everyone at the end and Tyr was an advocate for peace across all the realms. The game doesn't have an anti-male agenda. Not all the realms besides Asgard are noble and good either. The elves are constantly at war with themselves in Alfheim and only unite during Ragnarök. They immediately go back to war after Ragnarök ends. The dwarves from Svartlheim don't show up to the battle at all due to fear (not very noble). The story has flaws for sure. I do think Iron Wood should have been shortened and the Ragnarök event should have been extended. I still don't think the game is woke. Angrboda is black sure, but she doesn't spew any woke messages out of her mouth. She isn't depicted as a perfect person either. When you first meet her, she blindly follows prophecy and learns from her time with Atreus (a white male) that prophecy is bullshit, and she should forge her own path. If a game tries to perpetuate an unnecessary political message, I'm all for calling it out. So far with all the arguments that GOW Ragnarök is woke though, it just comes across as cherry picking due to the fact that we've gotten so used to calling woke shit out for so long. The game isn't perfect, it slipped up on a few things. If you don't like the game, that's fine. The woke argument just seems overblown and exaggerated.
Yeah, they ruined this game. It's a shame, because the previous game was one of my favorite games of all time. I gave it to a family member and told them not to play Ragnarok.
Thank you for putting this out How no one is talking about the forced diversity characters, except for smaller channels, yes I'm talking about Angerboda, a dark in norse mythology, and on top of that, she has Zero Value in the story, she's just a token for points. Also I'll add, I'm so tired of ALL of the good (not villian) "strong female characters", Freya is stronger than Kratos and smarter than coward Fenryr, Thrud and Angerboda are stronger than Atreus, Lunda is a better blacksmith than Brok, and Sif suddenly from bad to good because women cant be villians, and the cringe dialogs degrading both of Kratos and Atreus, if it was old devs, Kratos will rip Freya's head and throw her corpse to the wolves not giving a f**k about killing her son and because she's just in his way. how they unmasculine our guy Kratos, he's just downgraded in this story. what a sh*t story. also it pisses me off how they downgraded the gore, no nudity, masculine titless females, and what pisses me off even more is that Thor has belly jiggle physics, but all other females has zero breasts physics. a minor thing but it tops on all of the aboves rant. But to be fair, I enjoyed the gameplay and the combats, and enjoyed the encounters between Thor and Kratos. Yet, I felt sad of what have this series came down to.
Hey brother don’t feel alone in this opinion there’s way more people that disagree with this way Santa Monica has decided to partake than you realize simply next god of war I’ll wait a wait before I buy because these hungry money companies don’t care for their main audience they just want to pander to the black, and the lgbt no one else and it sucks to be honest, they want to erase all history of whites and replace them with blacks look at Cleopatra it’s disgusting the things this people are doing but thankfully we are pushing back look at what’s happening to bud light we gotta fight with our wallets that’s what hurts them the most
You implied in the start that due to your hispanic background and due to your family having mixed raced members, that you couldn't be racist... which is just so stupid.
@@cosmicobsidian672 I know right? That people like you think we need "representation" and more "diversity" just by turning characters who are whiter than white into people of color.
I agree with you 100% I wish more people would speak up against the madness I’m glad I met one who does, my friend you! Thank you for the view and support cheers
This section of the game is actually pretty racist. It shows her grandmother who is an addict. It's the stereotype of black people being more likely to have addictions. Then there is the mission where you have to destroy her grandmother's crack pot lol
Also if i was Scandinavian i would be very offended by this chapter as well as they’re being racist and changing the race of the characters they invented for the sole “message” of diversity
So, you made a full video crying and complaining about one character and one mission in the game you didn't like? Wow. The mission itself was slow. I can agree with that, but it gave Atreus and Angrboda more time to develop their relationship. Do I think Angrboda rejecting a flower from Atreus was stupid? Yes. However, when you think about it, she doesn't know what romance is. She had nobody to tell her about this kind of thing. Both her parents are dead, and her grandma is crazy so she never had those conversations or experienced it. This was a bad take on your part.
See it however you wish I’ve answered this many times in all my debates with other people regarding the same bs your talking about.. feel free to read through the responses btw I’m not crying but annoyed god of war has gone in this direction
@@azazel166 kinda loses all purpose when you give a gift to someone and all they do is whine about it, she may have kept it, her demeanor was the problem is like if I gave you a flower your a female and you said what a piece of trash you gave me and then you kept it, it still would have lost all the value to me the person who gave it to you and still would have made you a B**** for trying to make me feel bad when I tried to do something nice to you
@@ValorCast1 yes, I was already getting some warning signs with some of the lore but since you can complete ignore it and not read it I kept playing. Lucky me it was the game that came with the ps5
@@EzeLolo86 well you can play it but that 2 hour ride with angroboda is annoying after that the game feels rushed atleast the story portion of it wait till you fight everybody in ragnarok you’ll be disappointed
@@EzeLolo86 great choice if your interested check out my video about elden ring taking the crown of the last of us 2 I know you’ll love it and let me know what you think as I’m curious and thank you for your honesty brother cheers!
Im concerned over future games caring more about diversity than the actual game but I see you don’t care for it so if I could kindly ask you why you care about commenting in other peoples opinion if you clearly not care what I have to say? But thank you for caring for how I am feeling cheers!
@@beaterl7083 You and me have different raging then my friend, that I get a bit emotional and give you my honest opinion on a matter does not mean I’m going to kill someone with my thoughts lol, I didn’t destroy anything in my house in the making of the video and certainly did not edit it like other RUclipsrs who take a month to post something to make sure they don’t offend a single insect I made this video to have an interesting conversation about what I thought the game did wrong, the angroboda section is terrible the character Arc is terrible, the character is pointless and makes no sense in origin, then again I respect your opinion as you should mine and hope we can agree in other things in the future with that being said thank you for commenting and viewing my video I appreciate it blessings
@@ValorCast1 where do you see this trend of people caring about diversity more than a good game? As far as im concerned people are still pumping meaningful and incredible games with diversity in it
Thank you for your honest opinion some parts in the game were excellent in my opinion but if I’m honest with you I think they did miss the mark on this one cheers and follow my content for more I’m interested in seeing your comments in my future videos blessings 🙏🏻
Lmao have you played the game or know the lore at all? How do you have the audacity to say Angroboda is not a giantess when is clear as day she is, you need to play the game at-least two times more bro and put some headsets so you can catch up to the story anyways cheers
@@ValorCast1 Yeah sorry imma hold this L I was responding with what I remember from her combat and I forgot that she had a boss battle with her giant mother. My bad
@@RainBugsQuietTime giants not necessarily have to be big this is explained in the game like for example Atreus is half giant and Kratos wife was full giant and she was the same size as Kratos and no worries we all can make mistakes we are human and are here to help each other out
im more offended that the game was too much walking and too much puzzles, i mean tomb raider exist for those people. when i did get to combat sections it was great especially as atreus i honestly wish i could have played as him the whole game because his combos are as smooth as pissing out beer but after that its just more walking, kratos telling his son to shut up most of the game and stop asking questions. i dont play god of war games but i assume old kratos never acted that way after all it says hes is the god of war. like god why is there puzzles everywhere that halt the gameplay or whatever is left of it. like id rather fight monsters more instead of hearing kratos moan everytime atreus ask a serious question.
@@josuesosa1157 it’s not about you caring it’s about the facts, he has much more fluid combos while kratos plays like a obese cow moving around. if you don’t wanna care and avoid watching it then you do you but the facts will still be shown in the video at some point.
This game was ok but it's a horrible God of war game. And the story for the Norse saga is so boring. The Greek saga had a better story and the gameplay made you feel like you were a God of war.
I wish it was meaningless if they stopped making everything woke now days I simply don’t want it in video games, but I guess we all have different opinions and perceptions cheers thank you for sharing your thoughts
@@Durkiee even one thing could be woke, like I said in the video I don’t care about having black characters in a game just make it believable, Kratos could travel to different parts of the world now, they could’ve made a whole game revolving African Lore which is very rich in culture by the way, but it doesn’t fit in a Norse pantheon the game wants to push a race swap on us without any interesting concept or lore behind it I get your only referring to the word woke in this matter but please I invite you to think a bit outside the box and see the bigger picture check out my other videos to see that I love god of war I’m simply stating my opinion about Santa Monica making characters for the sake of diversity which in the end you could call that either Woke or progressive and it’s what people understand it as
@@ValorCast1 rather than the sake of diversity, i think it was just like “eh why not?” It doesn’t change any sort of narrative nor does is push any differing aspect of her character. It’s a harmless, cosmetic change within a game that is *loosely* based on Norse mythology. The argument that Santa Monica is “woke“ and lost game of the year because of that is just a clickbait reach. People had a similar argument when Thor was revealed to be overweight, yet that’s how the strongest humans in the world actually look. Not saying you’re ignorant or anything disrespectful or racist, but that argument is just flawed
@@Durkiee I respect your opinion we can agree to disagree as I mentioned I feel like that about Santa Monica every opinion can be interpreted either wrong or right i just wanted to get that out there and I honestly did not do it for click bait if you check my channel I only have 5 subscribers which I appreciate very much by the way but in all honesty i won’t make a single penny of this video and besides this I do this videos to talk to people and I’m glad I was able to meet you and could have a respectful disagreement you could believe whatever you like that’s the beauty of RUclips I hope in the future we can agree in other things, this is my opinion and my honest opinion that is anything other than that would be lying and I have no intentions on lying about anything I’m glad Santa Monica lost game of the year in my opinion they didn’t deserve it like I said in the video I love Gow and I rarely play elden ring but my most disliked part of the story was angrobodas section and I’m sharing it with you anyways my friend thank you for sharing a light into this I appreciate your view and comment
I’m a conservative from Mississippi so obviously you could my assume my stance on this stuff lol. At this point I just try not to pay attention to it. I know its a little woke (I mean… its Sony). I’m just relieved the game wasn’t so woke to the point that it ruined the game. Like making Kratos gay or something. Not that I’m homophobic or anything, but that would’ve been a slap in the face to the fans. But honestly I enjoyed the game a lot more than I thought I would and minus those boring sections you mentioned, I’d give the story like a 9/10
I would disagree with you a bit but hey man if you enjoyed the game more power to you, after carefully analyzing every single detail I found the story to be weak and it was disappointing compared to gow 2018, we can get into it but I’m sure you read a couple of my responses to other people I’m assuming you understand my points anyways cheers god bless
bro nothing about this game was woke. if you haven’t noticed they design the characters in game based on how their voice actor looks in real life. Angrabodas voice actor was black… it’s not that deep. also her being black isn’t incoherent with the story because she’s not from midgard (earth), she’s from a whole other realm which clearly has a different climate/landscape. so her having dark skin still makes sense within the story. everyone’s complaining that they “changed the character” when they didn’t even know who she was before this game existed. I do agree tho the level was pretty boring either way
Interesting opinion I like the way you think outside of the box and have your point, to be fair idc about whether a character is black or not in any games it felt off in the Norse pantheons and regardless, Angroboda in the lore was white she was an established character I have my opinion and I’m being honest with everything besides you can’t deny this mission was horrible like I said in the video but I respect your opinion thank you for your view and opinion
I miss those great times when the characters were fully invented rather than copying the looks of their voice actors (it's such a lazy approach). When the developers made up an interesting story for the characters and presented it verbally and through design (Kratos is a great example). Nothing about this game was woke? Come on. Race swapping is the least of this game's woes. I would say that Ragnarök consists almost entirely of the modern political agenda. Feminism, LGBTQ+, toxic family relationships (almost the entire game consists of that), social injustice issues, oppression of people of color by white people, "toxic masculinity" and stoicism judgment, eco-activism, etc. Kratos just looks superfluous in this cringe parade.
@@BriareusHekatonkheir well said my brother had not thought about those points you mentioned, but yes i miss those days as well anyways check out my latest video i care for your guys opinion in my future content so if you would subscribe i would be very grateful thank you and cheers!
@Blue the game never said that SHE said that. If freya was strong enough to beat kratos don't you think she would have? Kratos was holding back tremendously because 1. He doesn't wanna go back to his old ways and 2. They used to be friends. Kratos could have lost due to holding back and not wanting to kill her but he'd never lose in a 100% straight up fight that's so obvious
Compared to the slop that’s come out more recently (suicide squad kill the justice league) GOW ragnorok isn’t that bad. The Angraboda mission was super boring and the race swap doesn’t make a lot of sense, but the rest of the game was so good that I can just ignore the rest.
Fair, tbh i found so many flaws in the game I can’t even say that it was a good game any more it was mid, anyways check out my new video brother i would appreciate your opinion on it as well cheers 🥂
This part of the game was the worst ... broke the pacing and literally dragged on for no reason .. collecting paint and picking fruit for an hour?? We should have gotten a longer Ragnarok war with an actual map and objectives ... but nope, they could never cut out their race baiting political message ... plus atreus combat sucked big time ... using his bow like a club?!?! wtf?!? give him a damn short sword with his bow ... so lame
Haha Hercules even forshadowes this in god of war 3, "while you were being crowned the god of war I was sent to find an apple", that line just proves this ain't a real god of war game this is a whole diffrent sh**show entirely
It's hilarious when anti-sjw's cry that the gaming awards is rigged when it's a game that they don't like. "Cough Cough" Last of Us: Part 2. When it's a game that they like, it's well deserved. Lol. I disagree with Elden Ring winning ,but it is what it is. God of War Ragnarok is still going to sell well. And the fact that this dude is having a problem with one character that was raced swap just shows that he's bringing in his own politics into the game. Angrboda skin color is so irrelevant to the plot it's almost invisible. This weird woke ideology that anti-sjw community has is getting extremely cringe. Remember kids woke only applies when it's a gay, non white, female main role. Straight white males don't apply. The Mummy, The Passion of Christ, or Exodus Gods and Kings. All three movies were played by white actors. It was race swap city. The hypocrisy is too obvious.
Bro god of war ragnarok is a game set in nodic mythology and pantheon a pantheon that consists of mainly white red haired people just like nordic people angraboda literary has no reason to be there if a game came in with a story about african mythology and changed one of the gods to a white character i am sure you would be pissed off about it but when it's the opposite we are the racist ones for calling it out as for her character her character is as interesting as a piece of a catoon box
@@jojomahmoud5752 Non white people have been annoyed for years with Hollywood race swapping historical figures for years. Swapping out brown people or Asian people to Caucasian actors I'm just saying keep that same energy. Because even though that Angrboda was race swap, her skin complexation had nothing to do with the story. Not to mention God of War isn't even a complete accurate representation of Norse Mythology if you really want to go there. All the characters in the game are white except for Angrboda. That extremely mild compared to Passion of the Christ, Mummy, Exodus Gods and Kings, and even the latest Aladdin movie. I didn't hear anything about those movies being woke and those were way more race swapped, so please explain.
@@jojomahmoud5752 That's great, but the anti-sfw community isn't keeping that same energy is all I'm saying. If you want to be 100% accurate than who's Loki's Father, I guarantee it isn't the ghost of sparta. Do you agree with that inaccurate part of the Norse Mythology?
Honestly, I don't think GoW:R was bad, but it's VERY obvious that different parts of it were written by different peope with drastically different levels of talent and empathy. Coincidentally, "woke" parts are where writers flaunt their complete ignorance of human psychology and complete lack of empathy.
This is not Sparta, this is not "god of war", this is god of "woke". S.M destroyed the character and his story with the idiotic agenda mixed meticulously in every part of the game. Ridiculous!
I honestly thought you were gonna mention the "pride" flag campfire in Midgard! When I saw that in the game, I WAS DONE!!! I was like, what is Santa Monica doing? Why are they putting this in the game? Why? I don't need to know y'all like gay relationships! I just want to play the game! I see ENOUGH of that in reality! I don't need to see it in a game! WB Montreal did the same crap with Gotham Knights! If y'all wanna believe that, KEEP IT TO YOURSELF & KEEP IT OUT OF GAMES! I also am concerned about the future of games myself! Pretty soon, games will have so much anti-God liberal ideologies, they'll LITERALLY be unplayable if this doesn't stop! If there's ONE PLACE gaming companies have NO PLACE, it's politics! BOTTOM LINE!
Tbh 2018 GOW was better than Ragnarok and also Atreus' parts on Ragnarok were a sack of SH1T without it, it wouldn't change anything and maybe Atreus' parts are good to the lore but on the gameplay is whole shit. And as everyone said, they basically NERFED Kratos, and with the Valhalla DLC we actually got a good ending for Kratos in my opinion but a shame they didn't make those gorey kills of the greek saga to the greek enemies, Kratos 'redemption' was good but the woke garbage puts this game to shame, atleast Thor's first boss fight like Baldur's Is good.
They turned Kratos into a dog, he gets humiliated by Thor and then cries in his gay little treehouse for it later, his wife literally calls him a "good boy" the woke devs love humiliating and disrespecting a beloved character, if they put as much effort in researching how powerful Kratos actually is instead of finding a way to forcefully shove a black character in a norse mythology game this wouldn't even happen
Yup, it was disastrous specially the Ragnarok part, this part and how they killed Thor as well a lot of this game was made in a rush or was not properly well thought out
I prefer the story of gow 2018 but the combat/graphics are a big step up in Ragnorok. I also agree that the Valhalla dlc gave a really solid ending to the game.
Giants in Norse mythology are shapeshifters, and Loki is notorious for disguising himself as opposite sex and practicing Seidr(magic that was traditionally practiced by women). If Angrboda wants to appear like that, she will appear like that.
So your saying Angroboda shape-shifted to an African annoying little girl, in a Scandinavian setting? Your imagining is as flawed as the game itself sir
You're not even making any sense whatsoever. What does Loki being a shapeshifter practicing magic have anything to do with the fact they race swapped Angrboða who is supposed to be a red head for a political message that's shoved down our throats?
@@L0gic_L0gic Who are you, his white knight or something? It has to do with the fact that Giants are shapeshifters. If you don't like "political messages" that are always seem to be "shoved down" your lame throats, then you'd best throw away every piece of media you own, because almost all of them have them.
@@azazel166 Okay, gee I didn't know just because they're shape shifters that they would automatically take an appearance of someone from African American. Would've made sense if they took an Asian appearance too if they wanted to 🤡 Yeah the same "political message" that people are now starting to push against what makes you think that they canceled Batgirl for race swapping and why the Little Mermaid is getting backlash, to why Disney was losing money to adding woke stuff and why that commercial with that mentally unhinged transgender Dylan is being pushed back against? You're not making any fucking sense whatsoever gringo.
Honestly, I agree. But at the same time, I just don't like modern god of war. Hell, I like Ascension. But 2018 and Ragnarok just aren't fun to play IMO.
Ragnarok isn't historical or mythology-accurate. It isn't Lord of The Rings, GoT, Witcher or other strictly "Books based" thing where introducing different ppl would look both awkward and disloyal to original. Here you have a lot of myth characters being completely different from original as Santa Monica is not making an interpretation, it just takes basis and builds its own concepts, laws and etc. This universe contains Aztec, Greek, Scandinavian and other worlds, all being originated from primordial quarrels, so considering all this I can't think of a reason why certain character (Especially one that has like 20 minutes screentime in 70+ hours game) can't be played as black actor. And she's not even ugly or intentionally degraded compared to model, she looks normal, not like that black woman from Star Wars Jedi games for example lol. You have a damn fictional Greek God of War reaching Scandinavian shores here, after all....
I agree . This mindless r@ce swap is stupid. Just like in Rings of Power. It could be a black Elve tribe in the south. But no instead we just get, "there you go there are black Elves". Its just stupid.
Exactly couldn’t agree more 🙏 thank you for the feedback you should definitely be checkout my Deadspace video I just made yesterday I’m curious to see what you think cheers brother thank you for the support
It isn't that big of a deal, I played God of War Ragnarok and loved every minute of it except for the annoying puzzles which I feel truly ruin the game, but anyway making Angrboda black is kinda weird but it's just a video game. The whole point of God Of War is to fight mythological beasts and gods
So you agreed with me that it was weird… I’m explaining the reason why it felt awkward and weird I get it’s mythology, but it’s Scandinavian mythology not African mythology
I do miss those days but what can we do about it bro Woke Monica has decided to pander to minority groups instead of their loyal costumers I hope they learn a lesson from other Woke companies that have gone bankrupt
@@capnphuktard5445 sad hey make sure to watch my latest a videos I’ll be also making a new one today regarding this exact topic I’m sure you’ll be happy with what I have to say
Hey guys I just want to put this out there as I’m getting a lot of comments regarding this point of mines which I didn’t explain a bit more as a new content creator I’m bound to make mistakes My point regarding that I’m Hispanic, the reason I mention this point is because my land is facing oppressing currently to this day so it would be hypocritical of me to be racist that’s how I think, in no way do I mean that by being Hispanic you cannot be racist because that’s just a stupid assumption as any race can be racist towards one another, I hope you can all understand and forgive my lack of explaining in my video I am not perfect far from it and new to content creating surely will be trial and error I hope you can all be humane and understand anyways cheers and thank you for the support!
Anyone can be racist no matter their ethnicity
@@traceyomoruyi302 exactly why I made this comment to expand on what I meant.
@@ValorCast1 don't worry I'm not angry or anything haha
@@traceyomoruyi302 is cool just replying to your post I’m not angry either cheers bro
Samehere Im not biggest fan of God of War but Sony ruined God of War franchise. Sony is sellout to the west and woke culture. Im hispanic as latin person I'm sick of woke culture nonsense🤢🤮
I just don't need "messages" in my games. I want to escape and explore something that isn't real life.
100% bro I hate that games are not fun no more
Amen. I feel like Im being scolded most of the time. The girl in this game was insufferable and I hated every thing she said.
Same with movies. I want protagonist or characters who are mostly good looking and not someone who resembles me or people that I know in real life. lol
You tech ically have always had messaging in games, whether it's overt or covert. In most cases, it fit what you were already comfortable with.
There is no message, Angrboda is black that's it, get over it
Im half mexican and i agree making her black was dumb
I am full mexican and I agree Angroboda is DEI bs
You are definitely right. They could have definitely made it clear that Angrboda or her parents came from the African mythology realm to justify her race-swap! But no, story-writers are too lazy to actually make their race-swaps make sense at all. They only see and care about color and no actual character depth. No wonder GOW Ragnarok lost Game of the Year!
Thank you for understanding brother cheers!
Or maybe she just adapted her skin to the sun there 😵. Laufey had been in midgard, so she would have no reason to do it. That is why she was white
Or maybe the literal *shapeshifter* just takes the form she wants to?
@@dinkleberg5925low iq comment
@@Morten_Storvikbelieve Artemis had a black woman too in Gow1
So is nothing new, plus theres other black man in Frey realm, but it aint that important i guess
I agree with you too. If you put, say a penguin character in the middle of the Sahara dessert, that's just "environmentally awkward and weird", not " racially equal". I'm Japanese but I've never wanted an Asian character in AC Origins or Witcher 3 . Such artificial equality will just ruin the coherency and immersion.
Thank you for understanding my point you actually explained it in an interesting way, is like taking a camel and putting it in the North Pole it’s weird thank you for the feedback
Massive false equivalence, a penguin is not a sentient being capable of intercontinental travel on a ship for example
@@TheSMR1969 If that is all you got out of his example, then you are part of the problem.
@@wohendumwing3ee9 translation: I have no counter arguments
you do know there were black vikings right?
GOW 5: kratos'son is "bisexual" now and kratos recognize his toxic masculinity and decide castrate himself as excuses for to be a man, then decide to kill all male gods just talking to them, telling them that female gods are the bestest ever and DESERVE to take over the universe!
Don’t give them any ideas brother
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Disney might be reading that hahaha
True that
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Great video. I agree. This section ruined the whole game for me. And overall the game is just not that great anyway.
Hey brother thank you for being honest not a lot of people have the balls to speak the truth now days and say things as they see them, I would like to add that I did like the game I’ll be putting my favorite scene from the game soon stay tuned I know you will love it god bless!! And enjoy the holidays with the family
Yup its objectively a bad game
@@Kometheus bro doesnt know what objectivity is
@zilo Bro DOES know what it is. And this game is it. That is why it lost Game of the Year. Cry about it and cope loser.
If you put less twitter ass woke SJW shit in your game literally made by cucks, your game would have won.
I hated how depowered they made kratos feel
they say holding back holding then at the final boss he does nothing and still holds back smh
and yeah that 4hour boring walking scene with atreus collecting fruits lol is that even god of war ? what a joke
Yes sir 100% there with you thank you for your view and honest feedback hopefully Santa Monica can switch their way of thinking for the next installment, cheers!
The point of the game is kratos is older and lost most his power since god of war 3. Did you not pay attention to the story
@@kylewilliams5454 cory balrog himself stated that old kratos would win against young kratos
@Kyle Williams Story? That cop out line about him losing his power was in one of the ambient boat rides, not in the main story.
Also Greek gods get stronger as they age, did yOu nOt noTiCe zeUs?
You keep embarrassing yourself with this simpage and are NOT in twitter. You won’t win here, shut the hell up Kyle.
I agree. Such a pussy of kratos. Why's he's even holding back when a whole family of Gods wanting him and his son dead. Also about the Valhalla DLC, tyre tried to fix him and see his problems in his past. The fans wants a bloody man killing everything he sees. Not some wise ass dude.
This game neutered Kratos SOOO BAD. He lost to “Queen Freya” and that whole fight with Odin where she yells “BOW TO YOUR QUEEN” was so forced and cringy I honestly did not care to actually finish this game. I was so excited but as I kept going I was realizing how politically driven and woke it was. Especially that atreus and black angroboda where you pick fruit and walk for over an hour was so damn annoying. Why are there black people in an old Scandinavian game? Why is freya her brother etc. look Latino or Native Americans? The freya actress is white with blue eyes and is actually hot but they made her uglier, brown, and flat chest. Kratos is not the kratos we know I know he changed etc. but when things go down and crazy he’s still wack. I wanted him to RAGE we only killed Heimdall and the lack of blood and gore was stupid. There were guts and limbs ripped out but here? You’d be lucky if you saw a couple of specks of blood.
They don’t make games for fans anymore they do it for woke points and to win trophies at the game awards. Thank God for the Japanese they give us great games, anime and manga hell even movies! American entertainment sucks!
Couldn’t agree more brother
Sweet Baby def had a hand in writing the ironwood section and it will go down as one of the worst sections in gaming history narratively and from a gameplay aspect
Yes and yes
I was so excited to play this game because of how much I loved the last one, but I basically stopped after getting Freya as a companion and Atreus running off on his own again. The reason I loved the third game so much was because of the dynamic between Kratos and Atreus and this game just straight up ruined that as soon as I got to Ironwood. I hate everything about that section of the game, and the fact that I couldn’t skip it still infuriated me. Also during this section I found her to be the most useless companion, where every time she lit a torch I had to make sure not to be facing it or else I would be blinded by it turning on, and when she fought the enemies she barely hurt them but succeeded at smokescreening the entire play area so I couldn’t see what I was doing. This game is such a let down from the last one and I paid $94 for it, such a rip off.
Hey man i am sorry to hear that, i feel you, it let a lot of their fans down and is unacceptable for a franchise we love so much to become a game that doesn’t care for their fan base but we gotta speak up and let them know is not ok otherwise they won’t care and continue making the same mistakes hopefully they listen cheers!
Wait so did this one 2 hour mission out of 24 ruin the whole game for you
@@noot4041 in my latest video i put my favorite part of the game I don’t hate it but this section ruined the pacing of the entire game after that for sure it made a lot of people disappointed specially the OG fans of god of war im just speaking on his behalf
@@ValorCast1 k I understand
@@noot4041 i love people that have an open mind and can see other peoples opinions and try to understand where there coming from i really appreciate you commenting your thoughts thanks for being awesome
I completely agree with you on Ironwood. I enjoyed 95 percent of the game but that single chapter was the longest drag of filler that i remember playing in a game in a very long time. I dont care about collecting fruit on a yak in a swamp in a GOW game. Im debating if i want to go ahead and trade in the game now while i can still get a lot for it or if i want to keep it for my collection. If Ragnarok gets a New Game Plus, I would love the option to skip that chapter entirely because i dont know if i could grind though it again.
Exactly my thoughts while I was playing this mission, it felt like anything other than god of war well said brother I appreciate your honest feed back thank you for your view and opinion
Any one who has a respect for Norse culture and beliefs all know what Angrboða is supposed to be. She certainly isn't black. She certainly isn't human. She certainly isn't a trust worthy or kind individual. What makes this representation of Angrboða so aggravating is the reasoning as to why they made her that way. It's pure pandering, virtue signaling, and race baiting. There is an entire Pantheon of black Gods and Goddesses in which the devs could have decided to make a game about. Instead, they chose Norse Gods and Goddesses and they did it specifically to eventually change them all around to meet modern day stupidity. It's even more aggravating when we all know for a FACT that if they did make a GoW game based on the multitude of Black Gods fro macross Africa, NONE of them would be white, therefore, respecting the original source material. Even if it's just 1 insignificant character from the Völuspá, there are people out there (myself included) who do not just live these stories and teachings but actively believe them. Every bit of text we have, the Hávamál, the Eddas, everything, is a faith and a religion to many Norse Pagans.
It wouldn't be a huge issue if we didn't live in the time we live in now, with far leftists destroying race relations with their woke divisive puke and companies trying to pander to groups of people who don't give a shit about them. Even though I would still find it annoying, it wouldn't be anything worth flipping shits over. That is just not the case now. The far left is always talking about respecting cultures and beliefs (something I actually agree with them to an extent) and you know what? I'm gonna hold them to it. My Norse Paganism culture ought to be respected. Some of the Gods in this game are obviously touched by some artistic freedom but for the vast majority of them, they are respected in their design and attitudes. I want mods to come out to make Angrboða, a Giantess from Jötunheimr, to be white (therefore respecting the culture and people of the time), and give her a ferocious attitude that would immediately make anyone know she is not to be trifled with or trusted. She brings about the 3 forces, sorrow, and grief, to bring upon the end of the Aesir, the twilight of the Gods.
Amen
In their defense god of war has been wildlife in accurate post God of War 1 they even made Hercules and outright antagonist just because he’d
Ironwood and the side mission in svartalfheim where you shut down the coal mines really annoyed me.
Relax, Ironwood is just Afrika
100% agree with you.
It went beyond just race swaps though, things like Kratos being afraid of Freya and her saying she could whip him and Kratos refusing a rematch......WHAT?? Yes, she is the queen of Valkyries but Kratos is the god of war and killed an entire pantheon, so i seriously doubt Freya is gonna be able to beat him down. BOW TO YOUR QUEEN!!!
There was sadly quite a bit of "the message" in this game and its such a shame.
Its not about being an incel or anti black or whatever ist or phobe people decide to use, its about these things not making any logical sense.
Thank you brother for seeing outside of the matrix well said
Kratos does not fear Freya. In fact in an unmissable, unskippable scene, Kratos says that he would defend himself, but never kill her, due to the fact that she saved Atreus when he was sick.
@@Mister_Black_Shirt Please don't try to imply that i didn't play the game because i did and i finished it.
Now allow me to correct you, the scene you're referring to is Freya asking Kratos why he did not fight back when she found him and Atreus all times she was hunting them and happens BEFORE the scene i am referring to.
After the scene you mention, she is riding with Kratos on the wolf sled and tells him that she would of killed him and asks for a rematch.
Maybe you didn't play game or perhaps you just saw something different than other people did and that's fine. You can have a differing opinion but don't try to say people didn't play the game because they think differently than you.
@@yocouch485 He said that every outcome would mean defeat, because he owes a debt to her, that being due to Atreus being SAVED by her. Also, there is no wolf sledding scene in that ENTIRE REALM whatsoever. Also, I was just saying the cutscene was unmissable to explain that the only way you could miss it, is if you're being just plain ignorant. And also I was mainly responding to your claiming of Kratos fearing Freya.
@@Mister_Black_Shirt Once again you're talking about a different scene to the one i am talking about. I know the scene you refer to and as i said it takes place much earlier on.
There is a wolf sledding scene but i never said it was in that realm, it occurs much later in the game. I have taken the liberty of finding it for you
ruclips.net/video/IAeAbeWmkdg/видео.html
So there you go, you are incorrect my friend. Perhaps it is not me who is being ignorant.
Like i said you are entitled to your opinion and i respect that but please get your facts straight.
Factual. This secction was mindnumbing. This should've been 10 minutes at most, but this was like 2 hours.
Yep horrible, and no replay value after you beat it cheers brother!
I really wish they had kept the game style and combat from GOW 1-3. The game was a great hack-and-slash a la devil may cry, then became a generic naughty dog adventure. GOW 1-3 and Ascension are equally amazing.
I don’t think that’s what did it for me but yeah you’re not alone in this sentiment many OG fans have the same mentality as you, for me the most disappointing aspect of this game Ragnarok was the story, the meaningless characters, the weak ending to the Norse pantheon, the ragnarok battle itself was so embarrassingly bad also Kratos felt very weak like a push over by Freya, by thor and the all father.. the little inclusions solely for ticking boxes in their diversity aspect I don’t know looking back at the game you can clearly tell it was not a good game the Yak mission it was an uncompleted game with tons of potential the Norse pantheon is very rich in lore and they absolutely butchered it anyways that’s my thoughts at-least thank you for the honesty
African American male here. I played and beat the God of War Ragnarok. I really don't understand why there was 3 black characters in the game. The girl in this game was useless she just served as a plot point for the death of Odin.
Cheers couldn’t have said it better myself, they need to get back to the basics and make games that we as fans enjoy not that have hidden agendas behind it thank you for sharing your thoughts 🙏
Black male here, I was 100% happy and had no gripes with the black characters, they all felt like great characters
@@cosmickeyboard9811 cheers on that brother I’m happy you enjoyed the game like I said I don’t want them butchering our favorite character I give this example a lot because he’s my favorite Marvel super hero since being a kid Blade, hes awesome a black vampire hunter with epic weapons and bada*s style, I know he’s a fictional character so it wouldn’t matter if they maid him white right??? Of course not people would go wild myself included on why an already established black character that was amazing as it was, was raceswapped it would make no sense… it wouldn’t matter but you would still feel that it was wrong to do so and that’s simply what I’m putting out there the hypocrisy and double standards of this people, btw atleast blade was super interesting and had an amazing Arc can you say that about angroboda? Idk you might be the only one that does regardless cheers and thank you for all your opinions on the matter!
@MasterMarcos personaly i believe angroboda isn't nothing like blade. The truth some people don't wanna hear is the majority of popular fictional characters are white, both live action, games, and in comics. If every character stuck to their same race as their comic book or lore character they'd be white and for voice actors and live action actors it would cater more to just white people, would be kinda unfair. If this was thor or Odin I'd understand it being a lil silly but angroboda? I didn't even know her character before GOW, so her being black isn't butchering anything, people who do like angroboda shouldn't be so attached to her race to the point where they are literally mad about it, because race isn't what her character is about. Characters like black panther and storm are way more connected to the color of their skin AND popular black characters aren't as common as white characters so ofc they stand out. Messing with legacy character like Thor, iron man, superman, ect. Is too far but side character and multiversal version of legacy characters is not a big deal. If personally you are agitated by that then that's ok, but I hope you know that your opinion is simply just your opinion and from what you've commented I'm happy to see you only view it as your that their butchering the character and not a fact that they are. Opinions is what make us different.
@@cosmickeyboard9811 ofcourse angroboda is nothing like blade is a simple comparison just because *you personally* dont know who angroboda is does not mean other people don’t, in Fiction she’s well established and had a very important role with the asiers and the lore so your opinion there is flawed, also i don’t care if they make a random character black i would still be like ok but would not really care because he was created with a whole new arc and not stealing another Fictional Arc and yes i think games can get away with raceswapping like they did in this game but it doesn’t make it right im just saying the game is intentionally doing that with a “message” behind it not because they created an interesting character i mean no one likes angroboda as a character shes not intresting, shes annoying, shes boring and yet we are supposed to love her thats what the developers want you to do, and to your point that theres more white characters than blacks in that department brother you are still living in 1960 every movie or game i see has blacks, gays and hispanic in them go to netflix maybe that was 100 years ago but now days for you to say that lol, i respect you a lot because you have a good attitude and seem like a very cool guy who has his opinions but my point in my mind is valid and i see yours too so no matter how much we disagree I don’t think we will meet middle ground in this matter but i wish you would continue to rate my content because in all honesty i like different points of view from everyone so ill be seeing you my broski let me know what you think of my last videos 🙏
Man, I can't stand Atreus in this game. What a wimp! I can't even play the game, which I love, because I can't stand how sucky Atreus is. Unbearable!
I call him Betrayus.
I think atomic heart handles politics pretty well, it has a lot political undertones but it serves the story instead of inserting so and so just to spread diversity and inclusivity, or to single out a certain ideology. Glad there are people like you who stands on their own opinions.
I might have to give that game a go, and np brother im pretty sure you are an honest person as well so im glad two like minded individuals have a platform to greet each other, and yeah i agree with your statements
Nobody even seemed to notice that literally 90% of the animals in this game are also female. Even Nidhogg was a female creature. Also; they slightly tilted the camera UP in this game compared to GOW2018, to barely show Mimir at all, you could clearly see his face and expressions in 2018 and in this game he's basically invisible, that was on purpose. Barely any male representation at ALL beyond Kratos who they turned into an emotional Freya-Simp. I am going to wait on buying the next game, I pre-ordered the first 2. Good job Santa Monica, great game ruined by feminism and inclusion.
Wow true
Lets send them back the "message". Go Woke, Go BROKE! No support from my wallet
Yes sir 100% agree with you on that
They understood relatability wrong. Just produce a game based on black background and culture
@@SultanAlZaabi thank you.
Im gonna make a review of this game. But while i was playing this bro i felt alot of pointless characters and bullshit. Thors daughter Thrud was pointless. When Freya tells Odin at the end... Bow before your queen "stupidest line in the game because Freya never mentioned she wanted to rule the world.
Angerboda was an affirmative action hire... And another pointless ass character. They game didnt have the badass God of war feeling like the past games. This game felt too soft for a norse medieval fantasy game. Its a shame because even the dialogue feels like modern day small talk. I dont wanna play a game and be reminded of the modern day. So yes this is why Elden Ring deserves Game or the Year
Do it I support you brother cheers!
I Im black and even I don't know why they made Angrboda black. I think it was a dumb decision.
Anybody can relate no matter if your black Asian white or Hispanic is not about race, angroboda simply does not make sense in this game, they don’t give her any interesting back story or anything I think people who disagree are just afraid of being censored by the developers or are just too in their own mind to realize it like always thank you for your honesty 🙏
@@ValorCast1 I agree with you 100%
Nigga you ain’t black
@@NCWUniverse next disrespectful comment with profanity will be removed disagree respectfully this is my only warning to you
@@NCWUniverse I am black. What are you talking about?
I'm glad I'm not the only one. People seem to call you insane for having a different (relevant BTW) opinion.
Odin is shown to be comically evil "man" just for the sake of it. Certain things he did which scream woke politics. At least Zeus had good points when he went about his ways as expected from the leader of a pantheon. Thor and Odin are just shown to be stupid at times. All the female characters including Freya are shown smart and know what they are doing. Freya lectures kratos so many times on the topic of wars and feelings that it becomes insufferable. Her overacting is cringe especially in the Odin scene. I'm a Pakistani guy who does not want woke messaging. I've been playing games since 6 years old. I love to heck out of San andreas too. Never once did I say "where is the middle east representation" or where are all the stronk whamen. Don't even get me started on tlou 2.
It seems the radical left has a new target. The gaming industry. Ragnarok wasn't bad but it was full of covert and overt virtue signaling. I love the original GOW games. Many casual say it's just blind rage hack and slash. But they have and amazing deep lore when you look into them. A lot of which carried over.
This is just the beginning in my opinion like one of my followers said theyre testing the water to see what they can get away with
@@ValorCast1 truly unfortunate. Even when I watch movies, it's old Hollywood. Especially All of Al pacinos films. Old movies had taste and amazing writing. When men used to rule entertainment (not evil patriarchal way but balanced). These people will soon call nature sexist now. I hope japanese Devs don't cave in. Fromsoftware and sucker punch is maybe the only two not woke rn. Elden ring was AAA heaven. Ghost of tsushima got robbed. I'm sure you know how and why. They were slamming it for not having enough female leads. Lady masako had an entire lesbian liver storyline. Thank god its was not overdone.
@@vergil1155 I recommend watching netflix peaky blinders if you want a new amazing series or the terminal it has controversial topics but they dont push an agenda onto the viewer and i agree legend its a really sad time to be entertained you cant make jokes anymore everything has to scream political messaging onto it and include every color of the rainbow into films its crazy
@@ValorCast1 thanks brother. Will check out terminal.
@@vergil1155 its amazing
I could accept if she has Egyptian origin
then Kratos can go chop some Amon Ra for breakfast
Exactly
Honestly, the original God of War games were way better and it's not even close. Everything about them were better, the story and gameplay.
💯 agree this games have no souls to them i felt them empty and boring
Well said, I’m glad more people are stopping to fear the big hypocrites that make this games only to have subliminal messaging in them and to have their views imposed on their customers thank you Marcos I really enjoyed this
Thank you for sharing your light in this matter I appreciate it and yes i love god of war i just don’t want my favorite franchise to become anything other than god of war keep inclusivity out of our games just make them fun and interesting and most importantly true to the lore
Well said brother…!!! This thing with the black promotion in pretty much everything just for the sake of diversity is ridiculous, disrespectful and totally racist towards other people. How would it feel for the blacks if i make a movie with Nelson Mandela and put a Swedish actor to play him?!
This coming from a Greek, Mediterranean in origin. Not everything is black and white in this world!!! Great video!! 🙏🏼🙏🏼
Nothing against any race brother, but everything has its time and place thank you for sharing your honest thoughts and I appreciate your kind words cheers 🙏
Please....don't go there...I mean Hollywood has made entire movies about Ancient Egypt and the entire cast was White. They even made Jesus Christ white
@@SK_Falchion That's because they ain't black, last time I check, the Egyptians today, still discriminate against the Ethiopians.
@@SK_Falchion Egyptians are middle eastern.
Well given Kratos migrated from Greece, I think you point out that isn't ridiculous to think someone could have come from Africa at some point before and had descendants... It really didn't need an entire explanation. And the section is there because people complained about not being able to explore all of the 9 realms in the last game. So her section was a vehicle to explore Jotunheim when almost of the giants are gone. It helped build more than the usual, generic/lifeless approach that they could have taken. A "race swap" is hard to be a cause of concern with just how many other liberties are being taken in the mythology (and logic) already.
Well said I like how you think, first I wanna thank you for taking your time to watch the video and sharing your thoughts on the matter, however I will have to disagree with what you said about It not mattering for angroboda give us more of her story and background the chapter itself was hated by all fans on my accounts I haven’t had a single person disagreeing with me in that point maybe you will be the 1st I hated the mission and hated angroboda for the simply fact that she was a diversity cast member only, I get their not going by the lore but let me give you an example, blade is a black vampire hunter amazing movie one of my favorite characters, sure it wouldn’t matter for them to change the color of their skin because he’s fictional, but why would they? People would be really upset about changing something that already worked and just butchering them for the sake of inclusion, I would of loved for angroboda to have an Egypt origin or an African origin and hopefully Santa Monica can hide that in there in the future game because in this one their explanation was the dumbest and racist thing ever OH simply because black people exist, I hope you also see my point in not wanting and ideology or mandatory diversity added in our future games, just care about making a fun game and make us feel appreciated for buying your products, anyways brother cheers and blessings thank you for your feedback, I would love for you to tell me what you think on my last video I made if you could as I’m interested to see what you have to say and If you like please subscribe for more as you have a friend here
Dude it doesn't matter what plausible backstory you put behind it. If they did it because propaganda came first & they needed to check some diversity check box then it it's just bad. Take this as something like they are just testing the waters on how much they can get away with.
@@TheAbhimanj my "plausible backstory" is in direct response to what is in the video... My actual point is that people are overly focused on one "aspect" despite the other liberties taken which are just ignored. Kratos is Greek, it's past being just a "Norse" story... If the outrage were actually valid, the complainers would simultaneously being really losing it at all the depictions of white Jesus or whatever.
Hold on a second.There were a lot more people that had an issue with Kratos being in the 2018 series reboot, than what we see in this case. Basically Santa Monica did a character swap with Kratos because they were too afraid of just launching a new IP in norse mythology. People stopped complaining because this is the second game & 2018 was a success.
It actually makes way more sense having ancient Greeks on the northernmost parts of the world because ancient Greeks had visited them many times (pytheas voyage on scandinavia, Minoans mining copper from lake superior canada) they even had a name for scandinavia which was hyperborea, while Egyptians, Nubians, Ethiopians or any other ancient brown or black race had never made it to the north pole, not even near it .
Spot on, it's not only that they race-bent a frost giant like Angerboda (which even Assassin's Creed Valhalla got right with blue skin and red hair which is one of their most common appearances) but what makes it far worse is that they didn't even bother to explain why she is African!, it's so condescending and lazy, proves it was only done for tokenism only.
Thank you for having functional brain cells
Other than that small part of the game. It's Soo good. The story is amazing and gameplay is somehow better than the 2018 version.
The gameplay it’s better that’s a fair point but the story is trash to 2018
I agree, also the game isn’t that great anyway, it should have been 2 games series ( Ragnarok ) and I’m pretty sure they realized that at the start of Ragnarok part, the game at that moment was just rushed, the whole event this final game revolved on was Ragnarok and it was shorter than this garbage part with Angerboda? Like seriously? All we did was kill couple of enemies, fight with Thor and Odin, this is what Mimir described as the twilight of the gods? It was a once in a lifetime chance to make the greatest game ever but they ruined it, they could have done what they did with the old franchise, they could have triggered the events that lead to Ragnarok like GOW 2 with changing fate and the titans, and then make the newer game all about Ragnarok, but it is what it is.
Yup very rushed it’s sad because it had potential and Santa Monica had made some amazing games over time im currently playing GOW 1 and man it feels so different to gow raganrok in a good way, I needed to go back to the basics because this isn’t god of WAR, anyways happy holidays merry Christmas make sure to check out my TOP 10 things we as players want next in god of war video and let me know what you think I’m a comment and if you like it please subscribe and like for more cheers brother!
They want us to hear their message but they want us to pay to hear it.
Luckily, the majority of people actually like this game and aren't offended by the way characters were presented, such a shame some people are so easily triggered by certain elements
Good that you feel that way I’m truly happy it met your expectations, the game was fantastic in certain areas but we as gamers should also voice out our dislikes for the game, regardless of how I feel I purchased their product and platinum it, I feel this chapter was entirely pointless and boring so I called out, and I’m not triggered I don’t hate the game, I do hate this section however and as you could see plenty of people do so as well but some are even scare to speak out on the matter so I’m their voice and they’re my voice as well anyways thank you for sharing your view and cheers! Hopefully we can agree in the future in another video brother
@@ValorCast1 yeah the title is kinda misleading, but I'm glad u didn't let certain elements ruin your overall experience, just weird the title calls the game garbage
@@cosmickeyboard9811 yeah I meant chapter garbage, lol I’m new at this video things bro and tbh I just want to hear you guys opinions I really enjoy them
@@ValorCast1 lets be fair they were never gonna win goty
@@davidspearim5552 they could’ve had a way better chance they were somethings in their power to make the game a better overall experience they didn’t lose by much, thanks for the feedback
Elden Ring > GOW Ragnarok.
As much as I hate to admit it, it’s true thank you for your comment and feedback I appreciate it blessings
Yeah I agree, the section itself was garbage and I don't even understand why it's there in the first place. I don't think this section ruined the entire game or made the combat less fun but it's still boring and useless. Like you said, there's no reason for why Angrboða is black or whatever, nor for Járnviðr (Iron wood) to be this "chill" and "relaxing" place. You know it's bad when people agree with something UnderTheMayo said 😂😂
Yes sir I don’t think it ruined the game but definitely the pacing of the game for sure and also the replay value as well
Angrboda isn't depicted as being any race in norse mythology and there are confirmed black vikings
@@kylewilliams5454 yeah make a Scandinavian Black just because she doesn’t have a clear depiction, she has red hair, now that I think about it I never seen a black woman with red hair before have you? Also black Vikings where a weird occurrence in the Norse Pantheon why do they need to be represented in a white majority demographic makes zero sense, and not only that did you like collecting fruits for 3 hours in a Yak? How come you like this character so much
@@kylewilliams5454 source? I don't instantly think you're wrong, just cite the book, possible author and maybe part of the book
Y jormungandr y Fenrir como existirían?
when sindri said “the only person that can control you is you” I couldn’t do it anymore and quit
So many things wrong in this game lol now looking back at it when I made the video I left out so many wrong things of this game you might have inspired me to do a video again
@@ValorCast1 The fact they have a black person in what’s supposed to be ancient Scandinavia is wild 😭
And people defend it, all I said was imagine for a second this was reversed that we go to Africa and made a god of their origin white I mean nobody can give me a counter to that statement because what I said it’s the truth I don’t care who I offend as long as it’s the truth now if I’m lying in something I would take the video down because I hate misleading people into false narratives, but the double standards and hypocrisy of this people is out of this level
@BorisWalker Norse mythology is in Scandinavia
@@jaunjarloss6088I mean, there's a giant serpent that wraps around the world in this game but I guess black person in Scandinavia is to unrealistic.
I agree, Political agenda's should never be in video games, I don't mind politics in games as long as they're not trying to push their political agendas in games.
Correct
“Sick mind” described it perfectly
Exactly
@ValorCast1 Not to mention, it look like Atreaus and Angrboda were humping while riding the horse thing. It's a pdf agenda.
i am from india punjab, i love gaming , i played many games from childhood ,
my father introduce me to gaming as i watched him play games when i was a child
recently i felt gaming is not fun as it used to be , i thought maybe i am in my 20s thats why?
i didnt knew anything about woke stuff and all, but found out that wokeism was the reason i was not able to enjoy gaming anymore
see i didnt even knew about that stuff and still my brain said : hey its not fun something is fishy
my favorite games are Resident evil series (number 1 always)
prototype 1 and 2 ,
alan wake ( not 2 ofc)
sekiro
dynasty warriors games
dragon ball
i have played company of heroes also
i still enjoy old games , new AAA are just not fun
i want old golden gaming era to return and ban wokeism in games and movies
@@ZenoSamaOmniKing exactly my point something feels off in these newer titles i agree friend
You are one of the smarter indians
Agreed, I am just getting so bored at this point, always trying to find some games that aren't lackluster
Very good review, man. Kudos to you for not being afraid to speak the truth. An interesting tidbit here is that one of the main reasons this game’s story lacked, and the main reason for the race-swapping and the at times truly cringy dialogue is a company named Sweet Baby Inc., whose main and only purpose is to infuse wokeisms into games. They have been involved with some of the biggest names in the gaming industry to put more “diversity (which somehow always defaults to more black, rather than Hispanic, Asian, Eastern European, native Australian, or middle-Eastern characters) into games. So far they’ve fudged up this game, Alan Wake II, Forespoken, and quite a few other games where you really noticed the wokification in the game. Interestingly enough, this “diversity” always comes at the expense of cultural accuracy (a NORSE goddess who chooses to identify as a black girl? Really??), story cohesion, and immersion. Respect to you for pointing out the obvious, which so many people try to ignore.
So much time was spent in Ironwood and it didn't pay off. Could have been much, much shorter.
Exactly
glad i pirated this game. i thought angrboda was bad enough but then they raceswap her grandma and then hildisvini as well for no reason. it's a game about NORSE MYTHOLOGY in a SCANDINAVIAN setting. this is as ridiculous as making a game about zulu tribes in africa and then making the characters white.
Exactly thank you for understanding
I loved the game and i platinumed it but i 100% agree with you
The game was epic I will make a new video soon with my favorite part of the game I’ve platinumed the game twice now, I have nothing against it but this part here please let us skip it lol anyways stay tuned to that video ik you will love it thank you for sharing your feed back
Angryboda was the most irritating and condescending character in the game.... and the part just goes on and on.... thats when I realized that this is not the Santa Monica studio that made God of War 3. All those talented people moved on long ago.
Right? Thank you for your balls in speaking the truth friend I appreciate it check out my latest video on ghost of Tsushima you’ll like it I’m sure/ and yes you could feel the presence of new devs in their latest game the game felt awkward and felt like they were scolding Kratos all of the time
That’s isn’t Santa Monica’s fault, it’s sweet baby inc. They are the reason responsible for the shortcomings of this game.
I think it's more a case of Santa Monica cynically box-ticking. Every entertainment business is operating under these ridiculous inclusivity clauses (and remember most of it is enforced by their own internal company HR departments). This is why advertising is so completely at odds with reality. Over representations leads to disorientation (and distortion) and ultimately undermines any attempt to accurately portray reality in any given setting. This is self-evident in a game like GoWR - a Norse mythology (at this stage). Personally, I love diverse racial casting, but only if it makes sense within the context in which it is occurring. If it doesn't, it jars, it feels crowbarred in, and it breaks the audience's willing suspension of disbelief. If it is done with even a modicum of care the audience won't even notice it - it will therefore be entirely unremarkable (in fact, it will be expected). Etc.
1000% with you if we were in African pantheon she would have made sense not in a Norse region, it makes absolutely zero sense
One thing that i really hated about these 2 games(norse version) is that the gameplay is ridiculously easy. I killed a lot of bosses with no sweat in the first game, same for ragnarok. I've been playing god of war 4 and the combat was way better than the current one. The story bosses are so fucking easy. When i finally had the chance to kill Heimdal, His hp fell so easily and smooth. I was expecting it to be very had and exciting, But no. This old man killed him in fucking seconds. Also the difficulty on this game is just getting damaged more and more in the higher difficulty.
Just make the game harder.
Dude, seriously. She is a shapeshifting frost giant. She can literally take whatever form she wants. Most of the game we are literally playing as a greek god being the catalyst of Ragnarok and Loki himself is literally part greek god. The God Of War series has never been 100% accurate to the myths and people take issue just because the *shapeshifter* has black skin? People deserve being told off for that because it`s nothing but petty bullshit. And while the Ironwood section may be slow on a second playthrough, from a story perspective it`s very good character development for Atreus. There is more to the game than the combat you know. The game won " best narrative" for a reason. As for Angrboda and the flower, she literally did not understand the gesture because she has not interacted with people. It was a JOKE . Honestly this was just petty.
She’s not even considered a shapeshifter in GoW, I’ve heard this crazy theory before saying she could have switched to a black person in Norse setting it’s crazy ridiculous that you think a predominant Giantess in Norse mythology would shapeshift to a black female lol, but hey more power to you, when we go to Congo I want all the African gods race swapped to white keep the same energy my friend and that way I’ll be happy, if not it’s double standards and diversity hire only/ they need to stop black washing other ethnicities, and mythologies, Norse religion is white the gods are white the people were white it’s not African deities this are Nordic Viking characters no my friend you are petty/ This section in the game Trash/ Angroboda is Trash/ Her diversity cast is disgusting/ the game was way better without her in it
@@ValorCast1 Dude, i am Norwegian. Norse myth is literally my culture. And i am telling you that Angrboda is a shapshifter just like Loki and there is nothing wrong with said shapeshifter having black skin. Especially since she is in hiding from genocidal gods.
@@Morten_Storvik you could be Norwegian and not speak for Nordic culture and traditions, let’s pretend for a second that Angroboda would shape-shift to a black girl, back in those times there was tribalism between races, so her turning into a black African girl in Scandinavia would make no sense as she would get targeted due to territorial disputes and tribalism, so that’s out of question and yes while I do agree that’s it’s fictional which I’ve disputed with 200 other comments the same thing YES it’s a game so if NORSE mythology is fiction, can we make wakanda all white, can we make all Aztecs Asians do you see how many doors you open by suggesting that this is fictional? No they did this with a clear intention, to push diversity, this was a token race swapped character, idk how you can defend such atrocity gameplay was boring lore was not accurate, and race swapped a character? If you like Angroboda and ironwood section in Gow Ragnarok you’re not a real gamer to me nor have my respect
@@ValorCast1 It literally IS my culture and traditions for crying out loud 🤦♂🤦♂ Furthermore, you realize the vikings went to Africa right? There are artifacts like african coins and skeletal remains found in Scandinavia. There are even carvings and other artwork depicting vikings with african features. Meaning that there were straight up *black vikings* . And like i said before, while the Ironwood section might be slow on a second playthrough, from a *story* perspective it is actually great. And in case you did not notice : these two last games have been very story focused. As for Angrboda, her character is funny and there is nothing wrong with the damn shapeshifter having black skin, especially while she is in hiding. The *actual vikings* were more accepting and diverse with skin color than you are about a fictional *shapeshifter* in a game.
@@Morten_Storvik based
OMG you hit on the head, Atreus’ missions are crap and brings down at least 2 points. I am not white either.
You don’t have to be white to hate this garbage if i was black i would be so over this racist shet the government thinking they owe me something for the color of my skin would be the most degrading thing they could do to me
Tbh her mission was boring I agree with you Idk about the race swap but they could have definitely make her more interesting anyways I appreciate your honesty 👍 well done
Thank you 🙏
Angrboda was never white, she had no race depicted in norse and there were black vikings as well
@@kylewilliams5454 yeah sure Kyle whatever you say 000000000000.01% black Vikings that needed to be interpreted in the story of the whitest demographic before Christ sure you make a lot of sense.. yeah she’s perfectly as she is a black woman in Scandinavian Lore, man I can’t wait to go to an African pantheon and see a white god there lol just to laugh at the double standards you Social justice pretender warriors would cry out over.
@@ValorCast1 There were black vikings at Vikings travelled the globe. They were called Heljarskinns. And Angrboda has no documented race, so either way she isn't white. So there is nothing to race swap. And just like with Thor's design if y'all did your research in actual north mythology than you would know better.
@@kylewilliams5454 what research are you basing yourself on? Wiki pages lmao? Sure there might have been some ultra rare black Vikings maybe but they didn’t need to be represented as they’re a minority and don’t represent the group at all, just like in Africa the warriors there were all black maybe there was 1 white dude but he didn’t represent the whole Lore, your statement is flawed angroboda is a horrible character in this game and whoever doesn’t think so in my eyes is not a real gamer she’s is a horrible depiction of Norse mythology she looks more Egyptian than actual Scandinavian
I´m Scandinavian , and what I got from the discussion is it´s not a problem since the game isn´t historically accurate anyway so next Halloween party I´m going dressed as a Masaai warrior with a native American headdress and face paint doing a fake African accent.
It´s not historically accurate so must be ok?
Dressing up a black/asian girl in fantasy pseudo norse clothes and her doing a fake "kula rop" is about the same levels of cultural appropriation.
Which I would be cool with if it wasn´t that the same people defending this cries about cultural appropriation and stuff when kids dress up as American natives on Halloween or white cosplayers use face paints.
If they want black people make a god of war set in some African mythology. this is just lazy.
Thank you finally someone who understands about the double standards i speak of
@@ValorCast1 they even neutered the grandma, Gryla is in icelandic saga´s a monster that eats children. But here she is black so ofc she is just missunderstod and hurts animals because she is sad because white man is evil.
Would have been a much better game with a twisted evil baby eating ogre lady that Kratos violently destroys.
Nah , here you shot a f--ing pot and the old lady cries.
(though in the myth there is no relation between Angrboda and Gryla, I don´t think they are even part of the same set of stories).
ah well. these are the times I guess.
Cant have the black people be bad, they’re so much better, morally they can’t possible be bad.. haha i agree its a comedy at this point valid points brother
ironwood was so boring, I was playing this with my cousin and he overhypes the hell out of god of war, but when he got to ironwood even he admitted it was boring, we quit god of war for a few days cause of this mission.
It's proof of the woke hypocrisy when they tokenize Angbroda and call us racist for calling it out when the whole world, for the most part, was okay with black Heimdall in Marvel's Thor. But to double down on their ridiculousness, they leave Heimdall white in GoW-R. Why? I would have been okay with him being black. Oh wait. He's a bad guy and god forbid they make a black character the bad guy that bullies little white boys. Same with the boar dude, it was ridiculous. I loved God of War and enjoyed Ragnarok, but I I'm done. I bet that the next God of War will continue the hypocrisy and might be dumb enough to make Angbroda a mary sue.
Nothing but facts thank you for your honesty chief
They probably made her blacc to troll and anger racist like you and make you guys expose yourselves
What a brainless dumb assumption..When you come up with something better than the racist word which has lost all meaning as of recently come back and say something worthwhile thinking about
@@ValorCast1 what? Is this a comment? if so, then write a complete thought with correct grammar.
Since you don’t understand anything apparently, go and keep calling other people racists for having different opinions besides yours, here that word has no significance.
I agree with you. I hated when Game do lots of walking and extended talking specially in a linear game like this. The game's world just look empty because of it. I understand the talking and walking if it's a Big Open World Game but not a God of War game, It only exposed that Santa Monica sucks at story telling specially those long/big storyline. They should go back to simple storytelling with lots of actions.
Thank you for your honest opinion my brother and unfortunately I don’t think god of war is heading in that direction as I stated in the video I create today called my heartbreaking review of god of war, but I agree 100% with you brother thank you for the support cheers!
The gameplay was phenomenal but some things didn't make sense, i won't go into details here because there's no point but the whole "every aesir is evil and every other realm is noble and good" sounds very familiar, oh except for the aesir women of course. Doesn't take a genius to figure out what's wrong with the narrative. Either way, the gameplay is what saves this game for me
Wow I had not thought of that very great point, Yes it’s sad people can see through subliminal messaging an inclusivity and diversity added in game with no point other than to pander to a woke agenda I’m glad a lot of people can think outside of the box thank you for sharing your light in this matter I appreciate it blessings 🙏
@@ValorCast1 Cheers, brother.
Thor wasn't evil. He was manipulated by his father and used as a tool. He made this revelation just before he died. He thought he was doing what was good for his family. Thor was an antagonist sure, but he was not evil. Not all of the male gods were evil either. Freyr sacrificed himself to save everyone at the end and Tyr was an advocate for peace across all the realms. The game doesn't have an anti-male agenda. Not all the realms besides Asgard are noble and good either. The elves are constantly at war with themselves in Alfheim and only unite during Ragnarök. They immediately go back to war after Ragnarök ends. The dwarves from Svartlheim don't show up to the battle at all due to fear (not very noble). The story has flaws for sure. I do think Iron Wood should have been shortened and the Ragnarök event should have been extended. I still don't think the game is woke. Angrboda is black sure, but she doesn't spew any woke messages out of her mouth. She isn't depicted as a perfect person either. When you first meet her, she blindly follows prophecy and learns from her time with Atreus (a white male) that prophecy is bullshit, and she should forge her own path. If a game tries to perpetuate an unnecessary political message, I'm all for calling it out. So far with all the arguments that GOW Ragnarök is woke though, it just comes across as cherry picking due to the fact that we've gotten so used to calling woke shit out for so long. The game isn't perfect, it slipped up on a few things. If you don't like the game, that's fine. The woke argument just seems overblown and exaggerated.
Yeah, they ruined this game. It's a shame, because the previous game was one of my favorite games of all time. I gave it to a family member and told them not to play Ragnarok.
In game Odin is a GARBAGE depiction of the Norse god …who is that voice actor 😂😂❤
Im so disappointed in this game im also a huge God of war fan but i have only played this game once im just sad 😢😢😢
I shared the same sentiment brother
@@ValorCast1 I couldn't believe Ragnarok itself was shorter than ironwood
Yup what a crazy statement that is
Yeah I agree with you more could have been done and things need to be changed
It could’ve definitely been 20x times a better experience thank you for your feedback
Thank you for putting this out
How no one is talking about the forced diversity characters, except for smaller channels, yes I'm talking about Angerboda, a dark in norse mythology, and on top of that, she has Zero Value in the story, she's just a token for points.
Also I'll add, I'm so tired of ALL of the good (not villian) "strong female characters", Freya is stronger than Kratos and smarter than coward Fenryr, Thrud and Angerboda are stronger than Atreus, Lunda is a better blacksmith than Brok, and Sif suddenly from bad to good because women cant be villians, and the cringe dialogs degrading both of Kratos and Atreus, if it was old devs, Kratos will rip Freya's head and throw her corpse to the wolves not giving a f**k about killing her son and because she's just in his way.
how they unmasculine our guy Kratos, he's just downgraded in this story. what a sh*t story.
also it pisses me off how they downgraded the gore, no nudity, masculine titless females, and what pisses me off even more is that Thor has belly jiggle physics, but all other females has zero breasts physics. a minor thing but it tops on all of the aboves rant.
But to be fair, I enjoyed the gameplay and the combats, and enjoyed the encounters between Thor and Kratos. Yet, I felt sad of what have this series came down to.
Hey brother don’t feel alone in this opinion there’s way more people that disagree with this way Santa Monica has decided to partake than you realize simply next god of war I’ll wait a wait before I buy because these hungry money companies don’t care for their main audience they just want to pander to the black, and the lgbt no one else and it sucks to be honest, they want to erase all history of whites and replace them with blacks look at Cleopatra it’s disgusting the things this people are doing but thankfully we are pushing back look at what’s happening to bud light we gotta fight with our wallets that’s what hurts them the most
@@ValorCast1 im happy that there are some sane people who feels the way i feel, and thank you again
You implied in the start that due to your hispanic background and due to your family having mixed raced members, that you couldn't be racist... which is just so stupid.
Read my pinned comment please
yeah sorry I realized after but couldn't find my comment to delete it sorry@@ValorCast1
No worries cheers brother i know in the video i did not explain myself accordingly
I now know how sweet baby inc. was involved in the game
Yup is unfortunate
Elden Ring won because God of War Ragnarök is fucking woke lmao
nice racism
@@cosmicobsidian672 I know right? That people like you think we need "representation" and more "diversity" just by turning characters who are whiter than white into people of color.
@@cosmicobsidian672 And by the way, I'm not even white.
@@cosmicobsidian672 And by the way I thought racism only exists towards white people so as a poc how can I be racist 🤡
@@L0gic_L0gic you don't have to be white to be racist jackass
This part was just weird and stupid i agree with you on all points.
I agree with you 100% I wish more people would speak up against the madness I’m glad I met one who does, my friend you! Thank you for the view and support cheers
Definitely caught the woke crap they tried pulling shes fighting monsters with rainbows with a black narrator
Lmao yup sweet baby ruining gaming once and for all
This section of the game is actually pretty racist. It shows her grandmother who is an addict. It's the stereotype of black people being more likely to have addictions. Then there is the mission where you have to destroy her grandmother's crack pot lol
Wow talk about looking beyond i missed the mark on that one thank you for the feed back 🙏
Also if i was Scandinavian i would be very offended by this chapter as well as they’re being racist and changing the race of the characters they invented for the sole “message” of diversity
Gonna be honest, I don’t like the new god of war games because of the combat system.
It’s an ok combat at most but the story feels whack and not grand like back in Olympus
So, you made a full video crying and complaining about one character and one mission in the game you didn't like? Wow. The mission itself was slow. I can agree with that, but it gave Atreus and Angrboda more time to develop their relationship. Do I think Angrboda rejecting a flower from Atreus was stupid? Yes. However, when you think about it, she doesn't know what romance is. She had nobody to tell her about this kind of thing. Both her parents are dead, and her grandma is crazy so she never had those conversations or experienced it. This was a bad take on your part.
See it however you wish I’ve answered this many times in all my debates with other people regarding the same bs your talking about.. feel free to read through the responses btw I’m not crying but annoyed god of war has gone in this direction
She actually kept the flower if you check the table in her house in Post-Game.
@@azazel166 kinda loses all purpose when you give a gift to someone and all they do is whine about it, she may have kept it, her demeanor was the problem is like if I gave you a flower your a female and you said what a piece of trash you gave me and then you kept it, it still would have lost all the value to me the person who gave it to you and still would have made you a B**** for trying to make me feel bad when I tried to do something nice to you
That’s exactly what I’m saying
I was playing the game until I reach that section and inmediatly turn it of and delete it
It took you out of the immersion right? The game was not as I thought it was going to be thank you for the feedback
@@ValorCast1 yes, I was already getting some warning signs with some of the lore but since you can complete ignore it and not read it I kept playing. Lucky me it was the game that came with the ps5
@@EzeLolo86 well you can play it but that 2 hour ride with angroboda is annoying after that the game feels rushed atleast the story portion of it wait till you fight everybody in ragnarok you’ll be disappointed
@@ValorCast1 no, I had enough. The whole thing made me delete it. I'm playing elden ring now
@@EzeLolo86 great choice if your interested check out my video about elden ring taking the crown of the last of us 2 I know you’ll love it and let me know what you think as I’m curious and thank you for your honesty brother cheers!
Brother how are you so hurt by this?! most people didn't even care.
Im concerned over future games caring more about diversity than the actual game but I see you don’t care for it so if I could kindly ask you why you care about commenting in other peoples opinion if you clearly not care what I have to say? But thank you for caring for how I am feeling cheers!
@@ValorCast1idk tbh, no game would make me rant… almost rage like that, except fifa probably. I guess I was just surprised gow caused that too.
@@beaterl7083 You and me have different raging then my friend, that I get a bit emotional and give you my honest opinion on a matter does not mean I’m going to kill someone with my thoughts lol, I didn’t destroy anything in my house in the making of the video and certainly did not edit it like other RUclipsrs who take a month to post something to make sure they don’t offend a single insect I made this video to have an interesting conversation about what I thought the game did wrong, the angroboda section is terrible the character Arc is terrible, the character is pointless and makes no sense in origin, then again I respect your opinion as you should mine and hope we can agree in other things in the future with that being said thank you for commenting and viewing my video I appreciate it blessings
@@ValorCast1 where do you see this trend of people caring about diversity more than a good game? As far as im concerned people are still pumping meaningful and incredible games with diversity in it
Me being half mexican i agree that its stupid to had make her black… makes santa monica weak
If you visit Jotunheim after credit , you can watch Kratos goes soo out of his character glazing Angrboda , its soo cringe
Yup it’s so weakening Kratos would never act the way he did in Ragnarok the real Kratos atleast
The story was trash and most certainly woke.
Thank you for your honest opinion some parts in the game were excellent in my opinion but if I’m honest with you I think they did miss the mark on this one cheers and follow my content for more I’m interested in seeing your comments in my future videos blessings 🙏🏻
What is bro waffling about she is not a giant 😭 she kinda like a witch lady I guess.
Like y'all need to research more or actually listen to the game
Lmao have you played the game or know the lore at all? How do you have the audacity to say Angroboda is not a giantess when is clear as day she is, you need to play the game at-least two times more bro and put some headsets so you can catch up to the story anyways cheers
@@ValorCast1 Yeah sorry imma hold this L I was responding with what I remember from her combat and I forgot that she had a boss battle with her giant mother. My bad
@@RainBugsQuietTime giants not necessarily have to be big this is explained in the game like for example Atreus is half giant and Kratos wife was full giant and she was the same size as Kratos and no worries we all can make mistakes we are human and are here to help each other out
im more offended that the game was too much walking and too much puzzles, i mean tomb raider exist for those people. when i did get to combat sections it was great especially as atreus i honestly wish i could have played as him the whole game because his combos are as smooth as pissing out beer but after that its just more walking, kratos telling his son to shut up most of the game and stop asking questions. i dont play god of war games but i assume old kratos never acted that way after all it says hes is the god of war. like god why is there puzzles everywhere that halt the gameplay or whatever is left of it. like id rather fight monsters more instead of hearing kratos moan everytime atreus ask a serious question.
I agree thank you for the feedback
Nah playing as atreus was the worst part of the game
@@josuesosa1157 if i record gameplay in the future it will prove otherwise, he has much more fluid combos than his father.
@@FreeAimDog I’m ok I didn’t get god of war to play as his kid I already beat the game why would I care about the kids gameplay
@@josuesosa1157 it’s not about you caring it’s about the facts, he has much more fluid combos while kratos plays like a obese cow moving around. if you don’t wanna care and avoid watching it then you do you but the facts will still be shown in the video at some point.
This game was ok but it's a horrible God of war game. And the story for the Norse saga is so boring. The Greek saga had a better story and the gameplay made you feel like you were a God of war.
Completely agree friend
Woke is just a meaningless buzzword now
I wish it was meaningless if they stopped making everything woke now days I simply don’t want it in video games, but I guess we all have different opinions and perceptions cheers thank you for sharing your thoughts
@@ValorCast1 what is woke about the game tho? Changing the character’s skin color?
@@Durkiee even one thing could be woke, like I said in the video I don’t care about having black characters in a game just make it believable, Kratos could travel to different parts of the world now, they could’ve made a whole game revolving African Lore which is very rich in culture by the way, but it doesn’t fit in a Norse pantheon the game wants to push a race swap on us without any interesting concept or lore behind it I get your only referring to the word woke in this matter but please I invite you to think a bit outside the box and see the bigger picture check out my other videos to see that I love god of war I’m simply stating my opinion about Santa Monica making characters for the sake of diversity which in the end you could call that either Woke or progressive and it’s what people understand it as
@@ValorCast1 rather than the sake of diversity, i think it was just like “eh why not?” It doesn’t change any sort of narrative nor does is push any differing aspect of her character. It’s a harmless, cosmetic change within a game that is *loosely* based on Norse mythology. The argument that Santa Monica is “woke“ and lost game of the year because of that is just a clickbait reach. People had a similar argument when Thor was revealed to be overweight, yet that’s how the strongest humans in the world actually look. Not saying you’re ignorant or anything disrespectful or racist, but that argument is just flawed
@@Durkiee I respect your opinion we can agree to disagree as I mentioned I feel like that about Santa Monica every opinion can be interpreted either wrong or right i just wanted to get that out there and I honestly did not do it for click bait if you check my channel I only have 5 subscribers which I appreciate very much by the way but in all honesty i won’t make a single penny of this video and besides this I do this videos to talk to people and I’m glad I was able to meet you and could have a respectful disagreement you could believe whatever you like that’s the beauty of RUclips I hope in the future we can agree in other things, this is my opinion and my honest opinion that is anything other than that would be lying and I have no intentions on lying about anything I’m glad Santa Monica lost game of the year in my opinion they didn’t deserve it like I said in the video I love Gow and I rarely play elden ring but my most disliked part of the story was angrobodas section and I’m sharing it with you anyways my friend thank you for sharing a light into this I appreciate your view and comment
how about a better idea? Create a new IP with a black protagonist. Santa Monica ruined this franchise. The franchise that made them.
I’m a conservative from Mississippi so obviously you could my assume my stance on this stuff lol. At this point I just try not to pay attention to it. I know its a little woke (I mean… its Sony). I’m just relieved the game wasn’t so woke to the point that it ruined the game. Like making Kratos gay or something. Not that I’m homophobic or anything, but that would’ve been a slap in the face to the fans. But honestly I enjoyed the game a lot more than I thought I would and minus those boring sections you mentioned, I’d give the story like a 9/10
I would disagree with you a bit but hey man if you enjoyed the game more power to you, after carefully analyzing every single detail I found the story to be weak and it was disappointing compared to gow 2018, we can get into it but I’m sure you read a couple of my responses to other people I’m assuming you understand my points anyways cheers god bless
bro nothing about this game was woke. if you haven’t noticed they design the characters in game based on how their voice actor looks in real life. Angrabodas voice actor was black… it’s not that deep. also her being black isn’t incoherent with the story because she’s not from midgard (earth), she’s from a whole other realm which clearly has a different climate/landscape. so her having dark skin still makes sense within the story. everyone’s complaining that they “changed the character” when they didn’t even know who she was before this game existed. I do agree tho the level was pretty boring either way
Interesting opinion I like the way you think outside of the box and have your point, to be fair idc about whether a character is black or not in any games it felt off in the Norse pantheons and regardless, Angroboda in the lore was white she was an established character I have my opinion and I’m being honest with everything besides you can’t deny this mission was horrible like I said in the video but I respect your opinion thank you for your view and opinion
Really Freya's cringy speech to Odin is Woke enough and apparently the game says that Freya can beat Kratos is woke enough.
I miss those great times when the characters were fully invented rather than copying the looks of their voice actors (it's such a lazy approach). When the developers made up an interesting story for the characters and presented it verbally and through design (Kratos is a great example).
Nothing about this game was woke? Come on. Race swapping is the least of this game's woes. I would say that Ragnarök consists almost entirely of the modern political agenda. Feminism, LGBTQ+, toxic family relationships (almost the entire game consists of that), social injustice issues, oppression of people of color by white people, "toxic masculinity" and stoicism judgment, eco-activism, etc.
Kratos just looks superfluous in this cringe parade.
@@BriareusHekatonkheir well said my brother had not thought about those points you mentioned, but yes i miss those days as well anyways check out my latest video i care for your guys opinion in my future content so if you would subscribe i would be very grateful thank you and cheers!
@Blue the game never said that SHE said that. If freya was strong enough to beat kratos don't you think she would have? Kratos was holding back tremendously because 1. He doesn't wanna go back to his old ways and 2. They used to be friends. Kratos could have lost due to holding back and not wanting to kill her but he'd never lose in a 100% straight up fight that's so obvious
That section was horrible, and destroyed it's repayable value
Him when story telling is in a sorry game : 😡😡😡😡😡
Imagine missing the point AND having shitty grammar.
Compared to the slop that’s come out more recently (suicide squad kill the justice league) GOW ragnorok isn’t that bad. The Angraboda mission was super boring and the race swap doesn’t make a lot of sense, but the rest of the game was so good that I can just ignore the rest.
Fair, tbh i found so many flaws in the game I can’t even say that it was a good game any more it was mid, anyways check out my new video brother i would appreciate your opinion on it as well cheers 🥂
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Thank you brother for being outside of the matrix 🙏
@@ValorCast1 Bro to be outside of the matrix, sometimes you just need common sense, and that my friend, you seem to have as well!
This part of the game was the worst ... broke the pacing and literally dragged on for no reason .. collecting paint and picking fruit for an hour?? We should have gotten a longer Ragnarok war with an actual map and objectives ... but nope, they could never cut out their race baiting political message ... plus atreus combat sucked big time ... using his bow like a club?!?! wtf?!? give him a damn short sword with his bow ... so lame
Agreed with everything you’ve said
Haha Hercules even forshadowes this in god of war 3, "while you were being crowned the god of war I was sent to find an apple", that line just proves this ain't a real god of war game this is a whole diffrent sh**show entirely
100% agree!
Cheers my brother thank you stay tuned for my next video coming soon I’m sure you will love it!
And that was the best scenario for sweet baby. The worst like Suicide Squad is well know by many xp.
All scenarios are dead roads for that corrupt and racist company
It's hilarious when anti-sjw's cry that the gaming awards is rigged when it's a game that they don't like. "Cough Cough" Last of Us: Part 2. When it's a game that they like, it's well deserved. Lol. I disagree with Elden Ring winning ,but it is what it is. God of War Ragnarok is still going to sell well. And the fact that this dude is having a problem with one character that was raced swap just shows that he's bringing in his own politics into the game. Angrboda skin color is so irrelevant to the plot it's almost invisible. This weird woke ideology that anti-sjw community has is getting extremely cringe. Remember kids woke only applies when it's a gay, non white, female main role. Straight white males don't apply. The Mummy, The Passion of Christ, or Exodus Gods and Kings. All three movies were played by white actors. It was race swap city. The hypocrisy is too obvious.
Bro god of war ragnarok is a game set in nodic mythology and pantheon a pantheon that consists of mainly white red haired people just like nordic people
angraboda literary has no reason to be there if a game came in with a story about african mythology and changed one of the gods to a white character i am sure you would be pissed off about it but when it's the opposite we are the racist ones for calling it out
as for her character her character is as interesting as a piece of a catoon box
All anti-sjws are cringe edgelords who get mad at any diversity in a game
@@jojomahmoud5752 Non white people have been annoyed for years with Hollywood race swapping historical figures for years. Swapping out brown people or Asian people to Caucasian actors I'm just saying keep that same energy. Because even though that Angrboda was race swap, her skin complexation had nothing to do with the story. Not to mention God of War isn't even a complete accurate representation of Norse Mythology if you really want to go there. All the characters in the game are white except for Angrboda. That extremely mild compared to Passion of the Christ, Mummy, Exodus Gods and Kings, and even the latest Aladdin movie. I didn't hear anything about those movies being woke and those were way more race swapped, so please explain.
@@blacksugar6584 The explanation is simple
i don't like the race swapping in there too
@@jojomahmoud5752 That's great, but the anti-sfw community isn't keeping that same energy is all I'm saying. If you want to be 100% accurate than who's Loki's Father, I guarantee it isn't the ghost of sparta. Do you agree with that inaccurate part of the Norse Mythology?
Honestly, I don't think GoW:R was bad, but it's VERY obvious that different parts of it were written by different peope with drastically different levels of talent and empathy. Coincidentally, "woke" parts are where writers flaunt their complete ignorance of human psychology and complete lack of empathy.
This is not Sparta, this is not "god of war", this is god of "woke". S.M destroyed the character and his story with the idiotic agenda mixed meticulously in every part of the game. Ridiculous!
I honestly thought you were gonna mention the "pride" flag campfire in Midgard! When I saw that in the game, I WAS DONE!!! I was like, what is Santa Monica doing? Why are they putting this in the game? Why? I don't need to know y'all like gay relationships! I just want to play the game! I see ENOUGH of that in reality! I don't need to see it in a game! WB Montreal did the same crap with Gotham Knights! If y'all wanna believe that, KEEP IT TO YOURSELF & KEEP IT OUT OF GAMES! I also am concerned about the future of games myself! Pretty soon, games will have so much anti-God liberal ideologies, they'll LITERALLY be unplayable if this doesn't stop! If there's ONE PLACE gaming companies have NO PLACE, it's politics! BOTTOM LINE!
Crazy i did miss the pride thing, but i didnt see the flag i saw a rainbow fire
@@ValorCast1 That's what I meant to say! The rainbow fire, not flag!
@@Soldier4ChristTV o ok I see brother yeah crazy stuff bro they ruined my fav game
@@ValorCast1 Ya think?😒😔
It was a tribute to a member of the development team who passed.
But of course you don't care because everything MUST revolve around you.
Tbh 2018 GOW was better than Ragnarok and also Atreus' parts on Ragnarok were a sack of SH1T without it, it wouldn't change anything and maybe Atreus' parts are good to the lore but on the gameplay is whole shit. And as everyone said, they basically NERFED Kratos, and with the Valhalla DLC we actually got a good ending for Kratos in my opinion but a shame they didn't make those gorey kills of the greek saga to the greek enemies, Kratos 'redemption' was good but the woke garbage puts this game to shame, atleast Thor's first boss fight like Baldur's Is good.
They turned Kratos into a dog, he gets humiliated by Thor and then cries in his gay little treehouse for it later, his wife literally calls him a "good boy" the woke devs love humiliating and disrespecting a beloved character, if they put as much effort in researching how powerful Kratos actually is instead of finding a way to forcefully shove a black character in a norse mythology game this wouldn't even happen
Yup, it was disastrous specially the Ragnarok part, this part and how they killed Thor as well a lot of this game was made in a rush or was not properly well thought out
I prefer the story of gow 2018 but the combat/graphics are a big step up in Ragnorok. I also agree that the Valhalla dlc gave a really solid ending to the game.
Giants in Norse mythology are shapeshifters, and Loki is notorious for disguising himself as opposite sex and practicing Seidr(magic that was traditionally practiced by women).
If Angrboda wants to appear like that, she will appear like that.
So your saying Angroboda shape-shifted to an African annoying little girl, in a Scandinavian setting? Your imagining is as flawed as the game itself sir
You're not even making any sense whatsoever. What does Loki being a shapeshifter practicing magic have anything to do with the fact they race swapped Angrboða who is supposed to be a red head for a political message that's shoved down our throats?
@@ValorCast1 Yes, shapeshifting is like breathing for Giants.
But go ahead and call my "imagining" flawed, despite the fact that it's in mythology.
@@L0gic_L0gic Who are you, his white knight or something?
It has to do with the fact that Giants are shapeshifters.
If you don't like "political messages" that are always seem to be "shoved down" your lame throats, then you'd best throw away every piece of media you own, because almost all of them have them.
@@azazel166 Okay, gee I didn't know just because they're shape shifters that they would automatically take an appearance of someone from African American. Would've made sense if they took an Asian appearance too if they wanted to 🤡
Yeah the same "political message" that people are now starting to push against what makes you think that they canceled Batgirl for race swapping and why the Little Mermaid is getting backlash, to why Disney was losing money to adding woke stuff and why that commercial with that mentally unhinged transgender Dylan is being pushed back against? You're not making any fucking sense whatsoever gringo.
The new god of war games feel like what happened with Rayman and the rabbids, it just ain’t or
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They lack personality
Angrboda is Kim Belair's self-insert.
Definitely
Honestly, I agree. But at the same time, I just don't like modern god of war. Hell, I like Ascension. But 2018 and Ragnarok just aren't fun to play IMO.
2018 I liked that Kratos was still a man over all Ragnarok he was a puss boy
@@ValorCast1 I'm just not a fan of the game's combat and story tbh
@@robowolfYT I respect it brother we all have our takes they did change the gameplay completely from old god of war games so you have a valid point
@@ValorCast1 thanks
Ragnarok isn't historical or mythology-accurate. It isn't Lord of The Rings, GoT, Witcher or other strictly "Books based" thing where introducing different ppl would look both awkward and disloyal to original. Here you have a lot of myth characters being completely different from original as Santa Monica is not making an interpretation, it just takes basis and builds its own concepts, laws and etc. This universe contains Aztec, Greek, Scandinavian and other worlds, all being originated from primordial quarrels, so considering all this I can't think of a reason why certain character (Especially one that has like 20 minutes screentime in 70+ hours game) can't be played as black actor. And she's not even ugly or intentionally degraded compared to model, she looks normal, not like that black woman from Star Wars Jedi games for example lol.
You have a damn fictional Greek God of War reaching Scandinavian shores here, after all....
I agree . This mindless r@ce swap is stupid. Just like in Rings of Power.
It could be a black Elve tribe in the south. But no instead we just get, "there you go there are black Elves".
Its just stupid.
Exactly couldn’t agree more 🙏 thank you for the feedback you should definitely be checkout my Deadspace video I just made yesterday I’m curious to see what you think cheers brother thank you for the support
It isn't that big of a deal, I played God of War Ragnarok and loved every minute of it except for the annoying puzzles which I feel truly ruin the game, but anyway making Angrboda black is kinda weird but it's just a video game. The whole point of God Of War is to fight mythological beasts and gods
So you agreed with me that it was weird… I’m explaining the reason why it felt awkward and weird I get it’s mythology, but it’s Scandinavian mythology not African mythology
The days of Kratos and Chic's with their boobs hanging out are long gone..see GOW3
I do miss those days but what can we do about it bro Woke Monica has decided to pander to minority groups instead of their loyal costumers I hope they learn a lesson from other Woke companies that have gone bankrupt
@@capnphuktard5445 sad hey make sure to watch my latest a videos I’ll be also making a new one today regarding this exact topic I’m sure you’ll be happy with what I have to say