How Much Force It Takes to Break Vice Frame? Over Tightening Vices Part 3!
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- Опубликовано: 29 июн 2019
- Final video of our over tightening vices video series! This time we will modify the vice in the way that the frame becomes the weakest link. How much force it takes to crack the frame?
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The most impressive thing is the strength of that bolt.
yeah Thats one tough son of a bolt !
I know this is old as hell, but that's a brake caliper pin. the calipers actually slide freely side to side on it so that it can always center itself on the rotor. they are hard hard hard hard hard hard hard
It's reminds me of my morning glory when I was 18 years old
"It's soft! It's tight! It's bent! Something is happening!" Lauri 2019.
Yep. The best videos are when "something is happening." 👍😀
Woodworker Don r/woooosh
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4500kg "it's pretty tight"
That's what She said!
That's a lot of pressure, you could probably make an entire channel where you put various things under high pressure, could be interesting.
some sort of hydraulic press preferably
The Manual Press Channel
Right! And you could even use a high speed camera to replay the exact moment when something fails!
Or you could crush a cat and call the channel pressed pussys
@@BobDerEine1 Automatic Pressing Channel for Amuricans.
Today, on the season finale of Suomi Vice Squad:
Will they run out of screw?😱
Will it go soft?😨
Will Lauri ride the train to work?🚂
xd
And will he crush Annies kittens?
*vise
@@bigguy7353 It was a play on "Miami Vice Squad"
I was thinking you might rip the threads out of the screw before the vice broke.
I was thinking that as well, Now we know that the threads are stronger than the cast vice...
I thought the exact same thing, I was very surprised to see the cast broke.
50/50 on those two braking points. I've killed vices each way more than once.
I broke the vice by elongating the screw. Threads didn't detach from the screw. Weak point was somewhere in the middle between the nut and the end of the screw which was surprising for me.
@@TechMasterRus in computer tech support we often say the problem is a loose screw between the chair and the keyboard. 😱
There are a lot of nice, friendly & funny people with channels on RUclips, but I nominate you guys for the most chill, well-rounded RUclipsrs on RUclips.
I'm impressed with the strength of the 12.9 bolt
It's really really satisfying to arrive at a real answer, a real number. Pretty impressive amount of force, too.
"Safety plywood" cracked me up! 🤣🤣
That is why the handle they install is below the breaking point of the rest of the vice.
I believe it's because nobody knows how to make good shit anymore so it's all expected to fail, that way you have to buy another one sooner.
@@JessicaMarinaRushie everything has to fail at some point. There's a safe way or a dangerous way to let it fail.
@@JessicaMarinaRushieplus, why would you need a vice that can grip tighter than 4 tons?
The locomotive on the train passing by your filming workshop had the letters VR on it.
If you got your own train, you would not even need to re-brand! Vuohensilta Rail is already on display!
And imagine the things you could crush with your own train!
How much can it take until we derail!
they'll pack TNT under it until they get it 100 feet in the air for a xmas special
The Finnish Archimedes said "give me a cheater bar long enough, and I can break a vise."
Anni is so supportive ''go lauri'' ''go lauri'' as lauri swings hard on a six foot scaffolding bar trying hard to snap a vise in half.... true love .... Anni come on I found another vise get the camera and the safety plywood.........lol love you guys keep up the good work
I was about shitting myself with you guys standing right next to a little cast iron bomb. So glad you got the safety plywood out!
Also, what an interesting failure mode. I thought for sure the threads would strip out first.
Wow, Lauri tightens it just with his hand at the very end. So strong. Must be all the Tyrkisk Pebers.
That would be nice to put a microphone or a piezo sensor glued on the metal to ear it cracking !
Nice safety shoes Anni !
Really intresting!
Pretty impressive that bolt held up so well also - it didn't even bend (the way you had it with the "cheat pipe" only covering half the bolt, also makes the bending force on it quite extreme)
Those 12.9 bolts are used to tighten the heads onto race cars, also most normal cars as well. Super strong heated/quenched bolt against cast iron? Cast steel? No chance.
Repair it by welding so that it's stronger than new. Then test again and see the next point of failure.
Cast... not worth it
@@brendanstanford5612 film taking it back to the sore, after putting the bend handle back, and act surprised that it just fell in half.
@@SeanBZA "my 7 year old daughter was using it for a wood project"
Wow, that bolt is HAM!
You may now sell a DIY kit with both an automotive bolt and rusty cheater pipe included: The HPC Visecracker 5,000,000. That's a sure hit on Amazon.
I shivered with antici.......pation.
Great example of a material yielding then failing 👍
Impressive! Be interested to see what my old steel Record No 34 would do - but not enough to give it to these guys, I’m still using it...
Man that's a lot of pressure! Didn't expect that much!
Make a vice out of the steel that the bolt is made of... now that'd be a vice.
2017: this ball bearing is too strong for our hydraulic press
2019: we destroyed a vice with our hands
*vise
We had a college project to study how C clamps were breaking. Cheap Chinesium from a local store, you could break them using the handle. So, in addition to profile studies, grain studies, composition studies, we wanted to measure the actual relation between torque and load. So we had a load cell and a instrumented torque wrench, so we had to put a nut on the screw to use the torque wrench.
So I had the job of holding the wrench and looking away while my buddy Thomas welded the nut to the screw. A bit of weld spatter leaped over and burned the web of my thumb. After several expletives, we had what we needed. So we mounted the clamp with the load cell, and had the guy who had made the torque wrench. So I was holding the clamp in the bracket, and the wrench was being operated by the third guy, and he commented "smells like someone had fried chicken." I replied "that's probably me" and Thomas broke down laughing. The smell was recently fried flesh.
I think this is the best, or at least most literal, device you've built to date.
10:20 This snow dump site must contain a lot of platinum from catalytic converters, because apart from snow it also contains a lot of road dust. It is probably also slightly radioactive from all pollutants from fossil fuels, asphalt, etc. Cody from Cody's Lab would be honored to be able to carry out several experiments on this snow pile :P
slightly radio active. How? Oil is not radio active.
I fucking love the trains you have in Finland. They look so cool.
As far as I know, trains are quite expensive :D
Fun video I really enjoyed it! It's always interesting to see the breaking point of things! Have a good one guys see ya next time and have a great day:D
I didn't breathe for most of this video
daddy chill
R.I.P.
you shouldn't ask for medical advice in youtube comments
That's quite a talent. It doesn't break until at least 8 minutes.
Vice busting successful. Awesome that it was done by hand.
i broke a 6" vice once. i was using a big cheater pipe on it. when it broke, it sent the back half of the vice shooting into the wall. it didnt do a slow soft break like your guys' vice did... this one was quick and violent haha!
Nice work bolt. Now crush it.
that bolt is the real MVP :D
Yo yo! Love ya and all you do! You should shoot some video of you two sledding down that snow dump, that would classic!
Lauri!!! Lauri!!! Great video guys!!
That would have been so much easier if you had mounted the vice vertically so you could have just walked around it pushing the cheater bar. Than would have been less fun to watch though.
Maybe but the sensor might have fell onto the floor and damaged it, i was thinking he should have welded the bolt onto the end of the pipe.
*vise
Surprised the threads on the screw didn't give way before the vise itself.
And you should put some railcar wheels on that Subaru with the saw blade tires and drive yourself to the workshop on the railroad tracks!
So now you need a high rail truck to ride the tracks to get to the shop, that will be a fun build.
In Australia some of our oar & coal trains are 5km long.
So True
Here's some Finnish trains. ruclips.net/video/R5HXikDB18w/видео.html
Here in Finland the longest trains are just over one kilometer. Most are under 800 meters.
I broke my dad's cast iron vice with a cheater bar when I was a kid; that went with a big bang.
Weld it back up and see how well you can weld cast iron.
awesome clip of the SJ. I'm from the US and watch American trains, always cool to see European trains
Here's some Finnish trains. ruclips.net/video/R5HXikDB18w/видео.html
Did anyone else notice the huge crack forming at 6:22?
I was like “oh no here it comes 😱”
Weld a 1" nut on the end and use a 3/4" or 1" (!) impact wrench to tighten. That will speed things up a bit. ;)
Very good vice, well made, handle sacrificed way before the main casting which was seriously past any possible abuse, record vice I have if similar size is rated for one ton and tested to 1.5 ton
Nice one. You need to get railroad wheels for your bikes then you could bike to work. Just be ready to jump off if a train comes!
I'd love to see the thread. Pretty amazing it held and was in good enough shape you could spin it by hand afterwards. I thought it would be chewed up beyond any use.
Make a deal with a freight company to slow down a little bit when passing by your house and just hop on and hop off :D
I love you guys. You are both funny and great together. Thank you for the crazy videos. Toivotan joku hyvä päivä! I hope that was correct.
Could you weld it back together and try it again? You could see how strong the weld is. thanks far another great video.
The vice looked like it was cast. I don't know if you could successfully weld that or not, but, none the less, it would be interesting!
Just a thought, should have a temp gauge to see where the vise is warming up from the metal stretching......great channel !!
I saw that train at the same time I heard a train horn. My god the timing was perfect guys
You should build your own platform and station. Maybe even your own siding so you can send your scrap metal for recycling by rail. before your workshop was built, was this railway land. What is the history of the site.
I could've told the probable outcome. My dad was really pissed when I broke his 5" vise many years ago LOL. He called me a bonehead but I got him a new bigger 6" vise. God I wish he was still with us
Well, now I know not to over tight my vise at work lol.
But usefull information, good to know they can take that kind of beating.
I like your pink gardening gloves Anni.
You know the vice is being annoying when Lauri sounds like Jeremy Clarkson. "Come ooonnn!!!" lol! Great video! Wonder if it will explode if you weld a nut on the end of where the handle goes and use an air powered Impact wrench on it?
Who recommended the bolt? Hopefully not some nut. ;D
Be cool to see how a Record vice would do, they're mega strong!
Pretty cool
Greeting from Cologne in Germany!
Moi! Always! Just as I am ready for bed in Australia!! another great video.. yay ! you broke it... moi moi, Mark from Australia
They need to do this in Miami!
Cool. Now we all know what a vice can do/handle. Actually a bit less than I expected. I sort of thought one that size could do about double of what it did.
Try this with an old British vice. Those things are solid.
So final result.
Vice 2
Lauri 1
Human wins on a TKO because vise cannot recover during rest period.
What about changing the saw blade wheels on the Subaru for rail wheels, make sure you check the train time tables or it could be a quick ride 😨
6:46
"There is crack"
"Yeah huge crack"
Can you make a video on the different kinds of steel? I would like to know why the automotive bolt so much stronger than the vice.
Vise is cast probably. Bolt is actually metal
@@domwasha100 Casting is metal too, but there is a difference also between the forces in this experiment. The automotive screw did not had to withstand the same force as between the jaws, even with the pipe, because the screw inside the vise acting as a lever. Apart from that, I bet that 12.9 screw alone wouldn't break at 4.6 tons pulling force... The vise bottom part is not pulled straight away. The point where the crack started probably had to whitstand several times the force between the jaws due to the geometry. If you have pulled the bottom U part straight it's longitudional axis, it would probably take way more than 4.6 tons.
@@gabiold yes, but casted metal in this usage isn't a pure piece of metal. Look at casted anvils, versus pure metal anvil. Same thing. Thanks for insulting my intelligence or lack of insight. I don't comment often, because I usually get corrected by keyboard warriors who've never done or seen this first hand. Once again thanks
It's probably a grade 6 or grade 8 bolt which is high carbon steel. The handle on the vice was probably just mild steel, more like a common nail. ( how it didn't strip the threads, or break the main bolt puzzles me)
Wow, I thought the "vice screw" or the thread of it would fail.
Steel Vs cast Iron
I was using my vice as a ball joint press and the nut inside broke! on mine!
Weld it back together and try it again. I'd be interested to see if it would fail at the repair or if the weld would redirect the force to a different part of the vise.
You should test the screw in the vice how much force it can handle before you get a steel rod from it when you press it with hydralic press agains the nut in the vice
Thanks for the nice video.... I broke the lead-screw on a Record 5 inch Vice, by trying to push a gudgeon-pin out of a Simca Piston.
Try that with a dirt cheap wise too... Impressive that the vise screw didn't break
Love your videos. Quick comments: it's vise not vice. Amazing that the automotive screw held!
Man, that would be really cool do have a train. :D
Im surprised that the acme screw didn't stretch and snap
You can get one of those old time hand pump train carts like in the old movies.
A graphic example of a yield curve.
The real star of the show is that really tough bolt.
Considering this is very obviously a cheap vise, it actually performed very well.
5 tons! I'm calling it
I had like two crappy vices fail like this, one at some really lame low force, it has simply cracked and fell apart, the other, similar to this one failed at some high forces applied on the edge of the jaw.
Can you machine red/white hot steel?
And your city is so beautiful 😍
I thought that drone camera looked familiar, I lived in Tampere for a while.
It's strong but still malleable. That is why the catastrophic failure was not explosive.
I was pretty sure that it's not going to do anything explosive but it was still pretty intense since there was couple tons of force :D
I actually have broken a similar sized vice by hand. I didn't have a cheat pipe and the handle didn't bend. It did see rough use though. Like bending metal by putting it in the vice and hammering. And crushing things in the vice.
Build a rail go kart or bike with sidecar with track wheels. People in the USA explore abandoned tracks with them. Better make sure you know the train schedule!! 😃
Actually, here in Finland we used to compete with rail-go-karts. in 80's and in 90's it was televised nation wide and was popular entertaintment. Here's a link but there's no english subtitles. ruclips.net/video/8lKRc1eInrk/видео.html
I'm curious too see what the vice tightening threats look like after that hot supper.
You need to do this with some high speed rotating tool like a realy strong drill, attached to the Vice. Possibly with gears if it is to weak, but that will tighten it really fast so it goes Boom when it snaps.
*vise
It would be cool to adapt the end of the vise to accept a socket and measure the torque of air impacts.
That had more suspense than Avengers Endgame!
Is that bolt bent at all? It looked super strong. Maybe you can do some testing to see what it can handle?
Yes! The Finnish train!
Here's some Finnish trains. ruclips.net/video/R5HXikDB18w/видео.html
I think that vice is much stronger than Harbor Freight vices... I broke one with much less effort...
one of my customers broken his harbor freight vice trying to remove a rused nut that was around a rod with a millwakee 1/2 impact. Vice broke and the rod and nut stayed the same. I took it on to my tool truck where ive got my wilton vice set up. Pulled it out in 5 sec's with the same milwakee impact. A price to pay for quality. $50 vice vs $350 vice
Yost vices are crap, I have broken the same model 7 times they keep replacing under warrantee