All MOONSCORCHED FORMS Explained

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  • @benzur3503
    @benzur3503 7 месяцев назад +401

    Tanaka’s whip looks a lot like whips used in self flagellation, which is a pretty blunt visual metaphor for pushing himself in work to the point of hurting himself when considering his moonscorch dialog

    • @Pugsr
      @Pugsr  7 месяцев назад +69

      I was not aware of this practice of self-flagellation, and after looking it up, it looks like you are right. I'll heart this comment so people see this.

    • @valiensr1037
      @valiensr1037 7 месяцев назад +5

      See, I took a different interpretation of the whip, but this is also a really good reading of the design!

    • @actualfrog6
      @actualfrog6 6 месяцев назад

      its needles whip

    • @poon_don
      @poon_don 6 месяцев назад

      Man I used to literally self-flaggellate before and after work and my dumb ass still somehow never put that together. Well spotted

  • @theMoldynugget
    @theMoldynugget 7 месяцев назад +184

    Not only is Caligura genuinely a monster, hence why he's called that as his moonscorched version, but he also seems to be the only person who actively tries to "win" the festival, so his form can also be seen as what it takes and what one must become to even attempt at winning the festival, a "monster" by killing everyone

    • @Pugsr
      @Pugsr  7 месяцев назад +14

      Good catch, I could see that.

    • @jestermaniac3131
      @jestermaniac3131 7 месяцев назад +24

      if caligura wasn't weak as hell (7 dmg, get some gains bro) i could totally see him becoming a sulfur cultist in some odd timeline where he actually kills everyone else and wins the festival. just an interesting thought, he'd probably love that kind of life

  • @RainIsVibin
    @RainIsVibin 7 месяцев назад +337

    I think Karin's moonscorch being "difficult to tell where the transformation started" is a way to show her own split between her views on being a "valkyrie" and an internalized guilt, taking those vulture comments to heart. Or it's that she's so committed to thinking she's a valkyrie. Karin Funger.

  • @ryohei7897
    @ryohei7897 7 месяцев назад +309

    1:31 The creator answered this recently in a reply on twitter, about the uniqueness of the playable character's moonscorched forms.
    "no, the player characters aren't special. Just making every enemy unique would be quite a task. There is a flimsy excuse for this in the game. The villagers suffer from slow exposure whereas the moon exposure is higher by the time game takes place because days are running out"
    This does answer why it happens does quickly though, as they quite literally only had 3 days until termina was over.

    • @chihirovis1820
      @chihirovis1820 7 месяцев назад +26

      I was the one who he replied to! 😂

    • @freshmadgod
      @freshmadgod 7 месяцев назад +23

      I just asummed the participants in the festtival get extra attention. To liven up the festival on day 2 and 3. What would be more interesting to watch marina fighting abella or monster buff abella

  • @ryohei7897
    @ryohei7897 7 месяцев назад +112

    The chaugnar one was pretty much on point. It was something like being an 'elephant in a porcelain shop' sort of deal, a sort of big oaf which is what the creator tweeted, although he does want to flesh this idea out more in dialogue in future updates.
    And the deal about the woodsman's parasite is also very likely. If you use medical diagnosis on the woodsman, it suggests that it grew from his crotch, which would explain the origins of the parasite. And using medical diagnosis on chaugnar suggests the mutation started from the face.
    So combining everything, it was most likely another one of those parasites that attacked abella, causing the premature moonscorch.

  • @UniGya
    @UniGya Месяц назад +6

    There are some hints to Samarie’s dysmorphia in her obsession with Marina. During her transformation she will mention things like how she would watch Marina spend an hour each morning making sure her makeup was perfect, admiring that. I think given Marina’s talent with the occult as well she is what Samarie wishes she could be

  • @cibor07
    @cibor07 7 месяцев назад +102

    Samarie's interpretation was extremely limited, and would argue that her backstory plays a great deal into her moonscorch form: she Is a secretive dark priest apprentice from vatican City, one sequestered for her abnormal afinity with the supernatural. The rituals she has gone through have left her with a shortened life expectancy, one she Is aware of it. In her mind, her birth, or rather her body, Is the reason behind her misfortune.
    Once she faces moonscorch, she leaves behind the one thing that has limited her whole life. She Is finally herself.

  • @taytay4743
    @taytay4743 7 месяцев назад +55

    I think Miro explained that Abellas moonscorched form is based off the saying “elephant in a glass room”. Unfortunately, (i think miro says this as well) it wasn’t expanded upon bc she transforms on the first day. Apparently, she often feels clumsy and feels as though she ruins everything she touches. Hense the large and rough masculine form.

  • @ScottCotton-jq1bv
    @ScottCotton-jq1bv 7 месяцев назад +96

    O'saa's moonscorched form also continuously mumbles something that the player can't understand, similar to his whispering during the party talk in the basement: "It is just a mantra I keep chanting. To ease my mind."

  • @brettgreen5044
    @brettgreen5044 7 месяцев назад +23

    Am I the only one that thinks Abella's elephant head looks like a pelvic bone with a length of vertebrae for a trunk? That was what I took it for but I've never seen anyone else mention it.

  • @stevianheartbound
    @stevianheartbound 7 месяцев назад +19

    My theory for Tanaka's whip is that it's used like a flagellant whipping his own back to push himself forward.

  • @nntytuu
    @nntytuu 7 месяцев назад +34

    Well done!
    I liked the idea of fighting off the moonscorch in the final rher battle your mentioned from the beginning. It makes sense since the player ends up in a seizure.
    My thoughts on Tanaka: The whip, or knout, could be symbolic as a form of punishment as his name implies. Whips have also been used historically as a way of pushing people to their physical limits.

  • @frooty_satyr
    @frooty_satyr 3 месяца назад +6

    For Henryk’s “Gentleman” I’m of the opinion that he wanted to be a part of high society, but because of the fact that poverty was all he knew, he had a twisted vision of what this looked like. Also, for Samaries “Dysmorphia” I think her backstory is VERY relevant to her moonscorched form, given that she literally was a child offering and the fact that the things she went through as an offering shortened her lifespan. Dysmorphia brought this out in the sense that she thought that any change was better than her original form.

    • @Pugsr
      @Pugsr  3 месяца назад

      thats a very solid theory i never thought of.

    • @ladylunaginaofgames40
      @ladylunaginaofgames40 Месяц назад

      ​@Pugsr I like to think the Gentleman is also like Sanji from One piece, as he's somewhat vulgar and would of abducted one of the contestants after he moonscorched.

  • @fignewton6235
    @fignewton6235 7 месяцев назад +28

    I always thought it being called Judgment was simply because due to Tanaka's father always judging him due to not meeting expectations.

  • @defnothankjwimbleton3475
    @defnothankjwimbleton3475 6 месяцев назад +7

    Mechanical dance’s scream sounds awesone

  • @tankg9263
    @tankg9263 3 месяца назад +2

    Tanaka’s got glass on one arm and his face cause businessmen and windows don’t go well together. The thing on his head is a cubicle.
    And the whips is for self-falgellation, to represent him working himself to death.

  • @nasrzain2418
    @nasrzain2418 7 месяцев назад +39

    Miro missed his chance in turning Karen's moonscorched form into a bossy insufferable blonde

  • @teddymitchell3941
    @teddymitchell3941 7 месяцев назад +61

    Don't look into the moon kids, look into the sun instead

    • @zippiizhappy
      @zippiizhappy 7 месяцев назад +8

      Yeah, directly

    • @teddymitchell3941
      @teddymitchell3941 7 месяцев назад

      @@zippiizhappy the longer you look the more vitamin D you get. Its a no brainer

    • @Aurora-bv1ys
      @Aurora-bv1ys 7 месяцев назад +8

      Praise the sun

    • @diegosandoval1847
      @diegosandoval1847 7 месяцев назад +5

      The sulfur sun

    • @alexpenna
      @alexpenna 6 месяцев назад +1

      So unbelievably real

  • @andreaquadrati
    @andreaquadrati 6 месяцев назад +5

    Marina there is obviously FFX's Anima Aeon. Bound top, monstrous sprouting bottom

  • @borantandogan5524
    @borantandogan5524 Месяц назад

    weeping scope levi actively tries to miss you during his fight

  • @Aleyda291
    @Aleyda291 7 месяцев назад +10

    Love your vids man, greetings from spain

  • @elcatrinc1996
    @elcatrinc1996 6 месяцев назад +5

    Dan met a fate worse than dead, becoming a furry

  • @OreWaLavai
    @OreWaLavai 7 месяцев назад +3

    Marina is the easiest moonscorched character to fight, simply run and collect your changeling soul.

  • @irishman2334
    @irishman2334 7 месяцев назад +6

    love these vids

  • @rena4820
    @rena4820 7 месяцев назад +6

    omg im here so early!! have a good day :3

    • @Pugsr
      @Pugsr  7 месяцев назад +3

      I was waiting in line at a drive-thru for breakfast and thought "Fuck it, I'll release it now."

    • @rena4820
      @rena4820 7 месяцев назад +2

      @@Pugsr honestly that's the best time to release anything, having breakfast and seeing how it goes!! btw enjoy your meal!!♡

  • @missNekolover91
    @missNekolover91 7 месяцев назад +6

    by this than how would Pav's and August's forms look like?

    • @Pugsr
      @Pugsr  7 месяцев назад +8

      Good question. I don't know a ton about august, but perhaps Pav's would be some war thing. As he became a bremen soldier to avenge his family and became what he hated most.

    • @missNekolover91
      @missNekolover91 7 месяцев назад

      @@Pugsr well people call him Bremen pig, maybe he will look like some sort of pig? but because he doesn't care about peoples opinion he would golden?

    • @JuggernautWare
      @JuggernautWare 7 месяцев назад +3

      We also don't know Daan's form.

    • @JuggernautWare
      @JuggernautWare 7 месяцев назад +4

      Funny, that both P and A obssessed with killing Kaiser, and they both fail on it.

    • @missNekolover91
      @missNekolover91 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@JuggernautWare but we do? it's Pocketcat

  • @Gyozsha
    @Gyozsha 4 месяца назад

    I would think that the contestants have advanced moonscorching due to them holding special souls needed to be harvested.

  • @rker
    @rker 6 месяцев назад

    "the mastermind" got me lol

  • @Synchro-tq1mo
    @Synchro-tq1mo Месяц назад

    Termina festivals has different moonscorched cause of their special souls

  • @oynjx2hy362
    @oynjx2hy362 5 месяцев назад

    Abella's moonscorched form reminds me of the facehuggers from Alien

  • @spaceace9103
    @spaceace9103 7 месяцев назад +1

    16:43 when do Karin and Caligura interact? Don't think ive seen any clips of that.

  • @WeirdTroll666
    @WeirdTroll666 7 месяцев назад +4

    nice

  • @TTV-OXIDE145
    @TTV-OXIDE145 4 месяца назад

    So baseline moonscorch is just disfiguring ......but the festival causes u to become that which u have the most emotions about be it ur looks what u want and turning to those emotions wholeheartedly ive only seen shorts but thats just my thought maybe cause their chosen in a way

  • @jjdelany8130
    @jjdelany8130 4 месяца назад

    Could the transformation of the contestants be because of the strength of the souls they possess?

  • @DodoJacket
    @DodoJacket 4 месяца назад

    Samarie's story isn't fleshed out enough (pun intended) but it can be implied she has body dysmorphia, she is the least physically attractive female cast member which can go hand in hand with Marina's gender dysmorphia and why they were friends.

  • @anthonylarajr8892
    @anthonylarajr8892 7 месяцев назад +7

    Wish non playable characters be playable

  • @lucidfeen6640
    @lucidfeen6640 6 месяцев назад

    Huge love craft fan right here if ya need help im down to do some researcher for ya!

  • @BlackCatCoalition
    @BlackCatCoalition Месяц назад

    what is the music at 4:02?

    • @Pugsr
      @Pugsr  Месяц назад

      Ashes of War - Fear and Hunger 2 Soundtrack

    • @BlackCatCoalition
      @BlackCatCoalition Месяц назад

      @@Pugsr thank you!!

  • @neuralthief7082
    @neuralthief7082 19 дней назад

    No, I will not think of Hwei from League of Legends…

  • @sarcasticstranger3817
    @sarcasticstranger3817 5 месяцев назад +1

    Dang it.. I was convinced that Marina's moonscortched form was supposed to be an allegory on how caterpillars rest in a cocoon and emerge as a butterfly. Marina's true gender (boy) was hidden from the world (cocoon), but outwardly she looked like a beautiful girl (butterfly).

  • @thequeenofcringe1585
    @thequeenofcringe1585 5 месяцев назад

    I have a lot of thoughts about O’saa’s moonscorched form. If you ask me, it’s absolutely about his fear of being controlled and him not being able to do anything about it but watch. This whole idea comes from the parasitic looking growth where his head was and the eyeball that looks like one of O’saa’s eyes.

  • @GhenTuongHB
    @GhenTuongHB 3 месяца назад

    5:25 I think it's better to just speak the word and be done with it. The more you show you recognise it will be wrong, the more disingenuous it feels. Every right mind person understands it's hard to speak a foreign language.

  • @Aetherius_TheGentlemanRat
    @Aetherius_TheGentlemanRat 7 месяцев назад +4

    Hi there (●’◡’●)ノ 1st like here

  • @topcat59
    @topcat59 7 месяцев назад +79

    Also that whip that judgment use is typically used for self punishment which would make sense, since he has a bit of self-hatred towards himself for not meeting his father‘s expectations.🐱

  • @ThaMorseCode
    @ThaMorseCode 7 месяцев назад +192

    I think Chaugnar's masculine aspects are actually more of how Abella *wants* to feel. Her femininity is something that is never questioned in game, and in fact, most dialogue around Abella highlights her feminine aspects (ex. Marina calls her "pretty lady" and Henryk cat calls her). So I think her moonscorched form is reflecting more that she doesn't want to just be seen as a pretty lady, rather than that she doesn't feel feminine enough.

    • @Pugsr
      @Pugsr  7 месяцев назад +37

      Possibly. That would make some sense

    • @baksu7897
      @baksu7897 7 месяцев назад +10

      I heard that the trunk came from the woodsman's wee wee when it came off and attached to her face. And then she got moonscorched

    • @samurai-butterfly7393
      @samurai-butterfly7393 5 месяцев назад

      no.

    • @baksu7897
      @baksu7897 5 месяцев назад

      Awh

    • @downtownrats-ov1rx
      @downtownrats-ov1rx 5 месяцев назад +3

      ​@@samurai-butterfly7393 what a compelling argument. (sarcastic if you can't tell)

  • @topcat59
    @topcat59 7 месяцев назад +30

    It’s likely the person the Giant is choking is likely the mobster, since if it wasn’t for him he wouldn’t walk down this path or even be here in this hellish game.🤔🐱

    • @Pugsr
      @Pugsr  7 месяцев назад +6

      Thank you cat emoji man

    • @gaminghipster1202
      @gaminghipster1202 7 месяцев назад +9

      I think it's more reasonable to say the body The Giant is lugging around is actually the opponent boxer that Marcoh was forced to kill or else the mobster Riccardo would hurt his sister as described in his backstory, considering Marcoh can gain killing intent on his way to deal with Riccardo I don't really believe he feels any guilt or remorse for killing him, but killing his opponent clearly weighed quite *quite* heavily on him, the giant being an outward corruption of what Marcoh feels could show how he possibly feels like a raging monster who didn't do enough to save his opponent and just murdered him in cold blood. Well that and the rather unsubtle talk dialogue where the giant screams "G-GUILT GUILT!" at you, it's the only thing the giant is actually capable of saying after all.
      Though i do understand where the body being Riccardo idea comes from, Marcoh does love tossing both of them, Riccardo over a balcony and the body at a maybe not so innocent bystander, or maybe Marcoh just really likes tossing people like he's a pitcher in baseball and really wanted to reflect that in his moonscorched form, it's all up to interpretation after all.

  • @valiensr1037
    @valiensr1037 7 месяцев назад +47

    Tanaka has a cat o’ nine tails, a type of whip that was often used in the torture of slaves. It could mean that Tanaka either feels like a slave to whatever company he works for or a slave to his father’s expectations. It could also mean that he abuses his employees and is a “slavedriver.”

    • @SomeGuy-mt4hq
      @SomeGuy-mt4hq 7 месяцев назад

      Or it could mean he's a freak in the sheets 😏

  • @jackmcglion8337
    @jackmcglion8337 2 месяца назад +6

    I think Cacoon weird body shape is a symbollize that marina doesn't know who she is anymore.

  • @jestermaniac3131
    @jestermaniac3131 7 месяцев назад +18

    need more pocketcat videos, totally go for it

    • @Pugsr
      @Pugsr  7 месяцев назад +4

      Yeah, I can look into it

  • @r.a.6104
    @r.a.6104 6 месяцев назад +7

    I’m new to the Fear and Hunger lore and your videos definitely rock. I’d love to see you break down pocket cat

    • @Pugsr
      @Pugsr  6 месяцев назад +2

      Don't worry I will. Also welcome, and I appreciate you liking my videos

  • @WanderWomble
    @WanderWomble 4 месяца назад +3

    So, something I wonder and personally hypothesize about Sammie and her moonscorched form Dysmorphia.
    The thing is, she has strong telepathic capabilities, and simps so hard for Marina that she ends up having a huge one-sided parasocial relationship with her, right?
    Well? Given of course the trans mentality and themes and compicated gender upbringing Marina would naturally have, what else could possibly imprint onto Samarie.
    If she can delude herself into an idea of a "relationship" just from telepathy, how much else is she drawing in from the innermost thoughts and feelings of a conflicted trans woman?
    That's how I see it anyways.
    Or even, alternatively, who knows? We could have two transbians in our midst!
    With how much she yanderes and bases her own self around Marina on some level, I actually would wonder if that brought a strange gender crisis to her as well.
    Maybe reading Marina's mind was her egg cracking moment, realizing, "Oh shit!"

  • @agustin12689
    @agustin12689 7 месяцев назад +12

    Good video but still no Spamtom Theme. You are a Fear and Hunger RUclipsr, you must use the Spamtom Theme.

  • @jma0645
    @jma0645 6 месяцев назад +8

    I think the name judgment for tanaka could be a metaphor for how he is "the one in charge"
    His father expected a lot from him and he was always judge but now that he "broke the glass sealing" he is the one how judge he became "judgement"

    • @marley7868
      @marley7868 3 месяца назад

      also he's using the term glass cieling in a more liberal sense rather than the traditional given he's the scion of a big japanese firm whilst being japanese

  • @Sajbaisho1010
    @Sajbaisho1010 6 месяцев назад +1

    13:40 Arsène 😂, Also tanaka here as a businessman is a reference to the businessman tanaka in persona series. And henry as james sunderland from silent hill 2? Probably.

  • @deaddeer7179
    @deaddeer7179 Месяц назад

    So actually can i ask why they moonscorch? I heard somwthing like its cuz of the moon god rher but also is there a way to prevent it?

  • @ДмитрийВетровский
    @ДмитрийВетровский 4 месяца назад +1

    It was pretty common in Eastern Europe to put glass shards on the top of fences to keep people from climbing over them, like a cheap alternative to those nets they put on prisons' walls. Maybe Tanaka's glass things also allude to him keeping himself private and somewhat isolated?

    • @Pugsr
      @Pugsr  4 месяца назад +1

      I did not know in eastern Europe they did that! Thats super interesting and a good theory!

  • @TheAmazingRusski
    @TheAmazingRusski 23 дня назад

    Theyre like stands from JJBA but an inverse, horror version

  • @akumjh
    @akumjh 3 месяца назад

    The way I understood it, moonscorch is Rher's "truth". As in, what Rher thinks is the "truth". So, because Rher think all humans are disgusting and irredeemable, all humans become disgusting and irredeemable when moonscorched. Even if that doesn't reflect the actual reality.

  • @Bcs6
    @Bcs6 5 месяцев назад

    In my opinion, the glass all over tanaka's body is window glass, I think that since he's a workaholic overachiever man, the glass represents burn out and depression and what do you when you're depressed ? You jump in the window of the giant building you're working in to kys and cut yourself with the glass before falling to your death. About the whip, it could represents the slavery system inside some big corporations. He's probably in the middle of the hierarchy which means that he's constantly abused by the ones above him but that he also abuse the ones below him and since everyone is aware of that but continue to keep working then it's some form of masochism which explains the bdsm look of the whip

  • @RedBattler1857
    @RedBattler1857 4 месяца назад

    Now imma say this, so apparently Abella's moonscorched is based off a myth called the chaugnar (considering the name of the ms)
    The myth says that the trunk is parasitic, for abella i actually have no idea, but she thinks shes a "bull in a china shop" but the bull is a elephant

  • @treadnokash7598
    @treadnokash7598 4 месяца назад

    I kinda wanna get moonscorched too perkele kept himself why wont i im confident in my sanity

  • @RichterTheRat
    @RichterTheRat 6 месяцев назад

    It's called the Mechanical Dance because it resembles a ballroom dancer.

  • @sollyxdoomyx7905
    @sollyxdoomyx7905 2 месяца назад

    I hope the game adapt into 3d remake horror simulation.

  • @josedorsaith5261
    @josedorsaith5261 6 месяцев назад +3

    Marina's Father wasn't "mis gendering" them. If your gender identity is hijacked by your parent for their own wishes, as with Marina's mom, you can't act as if that was Marina's choice

    • @elcatrinc1996
      @elcatrinc1996 6 месяцев назад +1

      The creator confirmed she is a girl, please, don't talk if you lack information

    • @IREQUIREFLESH
      @IREQUIREFLESH 5 месяцев назад

      ​​​​​​@@elcatrinc1996 this is literally the debate "is this a woman or mental misdiagnosed illness" and I'm afraid your game developer can't just decide that on a whim. Unless its that in his universe it is a woman cause its a work of fiction so it plays by his rules but idk personally I think we have developed some schizophrenic relationship with the concept of truth.

    • @elcatrinc1996
      @elcatrinc1996 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@IREQUIREFLESH That is not even a debate, the real issue here is you being transphobic for no reason whatsovever besides parroting arguments others vomited directly inside your skull.
      "tHe dEvElOpEr cAn'T dEcIdE tHaT oN a wHiM" My brother in Cristo, they MADE the game, they are currently still making the game! Thsi is Not J.K. Rowilng suddenly claiming a character is gay years after the story was finished, The dude no only made the table, he is still working on the chairs!
      The only schizo here is you because apparently seeing the word "trans" instantly sends you on attack mode like a Bull watching a cape being waved in front of it.
      Maybe ask yourself they live rent free inside that little head of yours.

  • @PinchyTheKittyGirl
    @PinchyTheKittyGirl 5 месяцев назад

    It's their Apostle forms.

  • @ducduong917
    @ducduong917 7 месяцев назад

    wait so marina is male or female?

    • @sowhat_idontcare151
      @sowhat_idontcare151 7 месяцев назад +14

      Female. Trans girl

    • @KK4ever2000
      @KK4ever2000 7 месяцев назад +2

      Male.Has a dick

    • @dontkickmychick6076
      @dontkickmychick6076 7 месяцев назад

      Female. Headcanon she had Sylvian magic used on her to replace the dick with appropriate hardware so it isn't gay to want to smash her. (Also I think I've seen official art of her with Tiddies and unless she's stuffing her shirt I don't think they had invented implants for that at that time, nor could she afford them, so this *miiiight* be possible)

    • @zerrodefex
      @zerrodefex 7 месяцев назад +2

      A boy pretending to be a girl.

    • @DeDoDoDoDeDaDaDa
      @DeDoDoDoDeDaDaDa 6 месяцев назад +3

      Male