At the 16:00 min mark, Sir Richard on foreign policy and geopolitics rarely playing a part in British general elections in he last 100 years - "...what a far cry from the days when Gladstone was talking to packed crowds about the Balkan massacres..." - Sir Richard is not only the quintessential military leader, but a great historian. My ancestry is from the Balkans and my Great Grandparents on my father's Bosnian side were impacted immensely by the Ottoman Turks. From Encyclopaedia Britannica - "Bulgarian Horrors, atrocities committed by the forces of the Ottoman Empire in subduing the Bulgarian rebellion of 1876; the name was given currency by the British statesman W.E. Gladstone. Publicity given to the atrocities, especially in Gladstone’s pamphlet “The Bulgarian Horrors and the Question of the East” (1876), served to arouse public sympathy in Europe for the Bulgarians and other southern Slavs attempting to gain independence from the Ottoman Empire."
Excellent interview. Excellent analysis from Richard Shirreff. One thing absolutely puzzles me: With so many great military minds and strategic thinkers clearly agreeing on how (and why) to ensure Ukrainian victory, why oh why, do western leaders seem not to listen to such obviously experienced and knowledgeable voices? I would love to hear a discussion on that one. Do leaders consult people like Shirreff? Do they take their opinions on board? And if not, why not? Who exactly advises western leaders on their strategies, or lack thereof?
@garyleahy2524 An important point. How about a different format. 90 minutes panel with Sir RS, Gen Ben Hodges and a third like Jon Curtice who would have a better insight that most as to how politicians focus on opinion polls. 3 highly accomplished interviewees with nothing to prove.
@@porschewillthe problem is there's not near enough public forums of strategic defense in support of Ukraine winning the war verses Kremlin propagandists. Do we want to preserve our countries more than Putin, Xi and other fascists want to destroy us? That is the problem
There is definitely a power controlling all nations in the UN. I believe they are in control of this war. It does make sense to instigate war if one understands the power at the top of the pyramid.
Because Russia owns the escalation advantage all the way to Nuclear War. Ukraine is willing to go that far just like Russia. But US and key NATO countries like France, Germany, and U.K. do NOT!
The strategy is working. This needs to be costly for Russia. A quick victory doesn't serve western interests. The US is carving Russia entirely out of the system in a permanent fashion.
It's so reassuring to see every time you interview a general, there will be a well filled bookshelf in the background. I wish the same were the case with politicians.
Clear thinking individuals know that weakness invites escalation, and yet some significant world leadership still appear to be frozen like a deer caught staring at the approaching headlights.
Let's try a thought-experiment : What would President John Fitzgerald Kennedy do in a world where The United States was a mass of land that stretches from Eastern Europe to the Pacific Ocean, and Russia was working on getting a potentially nuclear enabled military base in a Cuba that is the size of, say, Ukraine, by, not least of which, effectuating a regime change ? Would President John Fitzgerald Kennedy just sit by like a deer caught in the headlights, or would he threaten with potentially lethal but necessary retaliation ?
The solution will not be found within the same framework in which the problem was created. Albert Einstein once said, “No problem can be solved from the same level of consciousness that created it.” We need a paradigm shift, if we want to survive as a species.
So point on. Finally, I have found competent people who can look at an issue like I do. I would propose that we have under some circumstances as little as seven months to go in being able to achieve a Ukrainian victory before it is too late and a wide war becomes inevitable.
The support from people, ordinary people, has proven to be as valuable, maybe more valuable, than the dribs and drabs coming from the collective governments. Let's get on with it.
@@ninemoonplanet yep and we Yanks will have to get a Democrat in the WH this Nov, or it's very hard to see DJT not either secretely underming Ukr or outright forcing a compromise along Putin's 'dream of Ukrain' that DJT said he understands!!!
The problem with recruitment in Great Britain is many people no longer see anything Great about it, particularly as we are currently being invaded. . As Richard Shirreff says here, quote: " At the end of the day it is the duty of government to secure and protect the state "
Our concerns are so much more bearable when we see what outstanding people take outstanding action to fight Russia and other authoritarian regimes from trying to undermine and destroy our system from within. Thank you both for dedicating so much effort to inform and for staying strong.
auto correct on iphone gave me untold revisions of "Shirreff", now fixed on pc, must have redone10x, challenges of a name that's not quite not orthographically permitted in our spellcheck era!
Exceptional as lies go! This Sir knows that CIA, MI6 spent from 2002 to 2014 in Ukraine and took them 12 years for the coup to succeed! He knows from then on another 8 years were spent arming and training, plus $100's of billion's bribing Ukrainian's corrupt officials to kill over 14,000 Russian farmers, children, families locked in a hall burnt alive, before Russia responded. Who in 2 years war killed 16,000 civilian's 550 children among them! In Palestine 5000 plus children and 15,000 civilian's killed in 3 weeks! The2 US Apache helicopter pilots admitted since that they were given orders to shoot anyone moving, their tanks ran over hundreds more of partygoers, and those who were telling publicly that it was their own killing them are locked away in mental institution's so they can't talk, at least 50 "took" their own lives! Sir also knows that the $ billion's borrowed from their masters to fund this war, UK, taxpayers won't be able to repay in 5 generation's or that this war caused 1.6 million homeless in UK alone maybe more since I've seen the UK documentary! Sir knows, the citizen's who finance it don't!
Unfortunately wars have been the most unfortunate constant among nations and people. Shorter wars are often the most 'efficient' use of military forces. Ugly, horrific, brutal, but as humans we fight over territory, back yards to entire countries. "Stand your ground" mindsets. 🤬🤦♀️
Point of order In 1940 Britain was NOT alone. India, Canada, Australia, New Zealand and many many other countries fought by your side. Indeed, Darwin received more bombs than England in WW 2. But for some reason Britain thinks they did it all alone for 2 years...
Darwin did not receive more bombs than England, no where near close. There was only one large air raid that did kill several hundred people, followed by smaller raids that killed no one.
It is always a great pleasure to hear General Shirreff speak. He has great wisdom backed by experience on the battlefield. Europe's Russian problem would quickly be solved if the General was one of the presidential candidates in the United States presidential election...
Putin: Don't use foreign weapon systems in Ukraine if you don't want to escalate. Also Putin: I will be bringing North Korean infantry into the fight....
If anything tanks in this war have very little impact? Drones, high tech long range storm shadows, good intelligence, are where the investments are required!
And 250 in reserve, Britain's shift away from armor and the 100 year old strategy of armored warfare is being proved as we speak , in Ukraine. Britain invented the tank, Britain's Captain sir basil liddell Hart invented the concept of blitzkrieg ten years before the nazis came to power, and hheinz guderian was an avid reader of harts theories. Britain's shift towards 21st century weapons has already begun. Taranis, a long range autonomous stealth fighter bomber has been tested extensively at woomera in Australia. Dragonfire, the British long range all weather laser has, in a world first, been successfully tested in may this year. It will form the backbone of an integrated nationwide defence system, capeable of destroying multiple hypersonic missile attacks. It will eventually be fitted to most royal navy ships. The new hawker tempest development contracts have been signed. Tempest will be 6th gen, will combine a self repairable skin, deployable drone wingmen, will carry both conventional munitions and portable dragonfire. It's prototype engines currently under development by rolls Royce and bae. It would take 20 weeks to call up and train 250,000 soldiers, And in a beaveresque edict, roughly the same to equip them. As for tanks,.... Why? You can construct 4 armoured vehicles for the price of one tank, Both of which are succeptible to ever more powerful drones. Much better to refine drone tech to a point where battlefields will become no go areas, Extinct, unable to be crossed..... That leaves long range missile tech, Which brings us back to particle weapons, lasers, kinetic energy projectiles, and skilled operators. That is the future.
We have been running down are military and navy for years since the end of the Cold War the blame is squarely at both Labour and conservatives! The shit has hit the fan now.
Great interview. I think you help to get the best out of experienced, well informed intellectuals like Shirreff; and the weight of their opinion backed by experienced carries a conviction that really helps persuade anyone one the fence.
There's a good word: mountebank!! And this is the best podcast of its kind. One of the best of any kind. Jonathan, you are way too modest about your achievement. This and Ukraine the latest are my go-to sites for thoughtful information about the war in Ukraine and the geopolitics of Europe and Asia. Thank you so much!
I don't know how south Korea thinks, but north Korean combat troops in Ukraine could inspire them to send more to Ukraine, quicker. But maybe it could have a cooling effect as well. But south Korea would definitely not take any offence over north Korean combat capacity being kaputted in Ukraine.
Jonathan…’…the UK was alone in 1940?….’ Even the UK war museum acknowledges the BEF had a large contingent of commonwealth forces (in case you didn’t know, that ibludes Canada, Australia, New Zealand, etc.) . Belgium, France, Poland etc., were all heavily represented in the allied effort before the USA entered the war….
@@sreenathgopinathan5415 how many Indian troops were deployed (not just enlisted) and on what fronts? What were the number of combat casualties for Indian forces?
You can never go wrong with Sheriff. One of the most tireless and convincing voices on why supporting Ukraine is in our self-interest and must be expanded in its breath and conviction. He’s a bit like the UK’s Hodges in that, but even more articulate.
At this time of crisis for Europe,we need somebody like Sir Richard as PM to guide us through it. A unity PM for the country agreed by both major parties would really focus minds - not to declare war on Russia,but to signal that we will ensure that Russia is defeated. This will of course probably never happen,but one can hope. Also,I think Hodges is great-despite being overly optimistic on Crimea,we could now be seeing the start of an operation to take back Crimea which would be a huge blow to Russia.
How things have changed. When the fascists bombed Guernica, the city’s name was used for generations as a shorthand for savage, brutal attack on civilians….yet the maximum estimate for casualties is 1,650. How many have died in Mariupol? And it is nearly forgotten…all so some countries can get back to importing cheap oil and gas, and shopkeepers and cafe owners in resorts can return to welcoming Russian tourists.
exactly. listening to boring Western minds who know nothing about history. w Germany entered NATO, the east part is removed and now NATO is in front of Moscow (entered first in Berlin)? makes sense (NATO already takes care of Belgrade who stopped them earlier)
For those of us unable to provide military support, I think it's time for us to do what we can to help Ukranian military forces with some funds. THEY know what they need, what can be purchased within Europe and Ukraine. Feeling powerless to do something is something WE can overcome. I will. 🔱🇺🇦🇨🇦
Make sure to support individual military units then. Most brigades have donation links set up. All the large international aid organisations are just as bureaucratic and useless as always.
Russia has always had the strategic initiative which to me is so completely bonkers that we’re just reacting to their terror. Russia invaded Europe over 10 years ago and we're still trying to figure out what equipment to send to Ukraine and how we should approach Russia. I find it so fascinating that everybody knows we're heading for a critical point, when Russia can't really do anything else except to use nukes, a trajectory more or less indisputable by most experts, so why the heck are we still on this path as it only have downsides? This slow, reluctant indecisive behavior is in itself escalatory and is indirectly the cause of many dead and wounded Ukrainians. We have one big advantage over Russia and that is muscles. If there’s ANY one tool which we can use to deter Russia without having to actually do anything, it’s to show them our muscles. Another point to this is that countries like China would probably be friendly with the stronger side, in other words perhaps wouldn’t provide any help to Russia.
West does not have Nuclear advantage over Russia around Ukraine. And PRC would not allow Russia to lose because they know they will be the next target by US.
1. Ukraine is not Europe. 2. Ukraine was first "invaded" by the USA. 3. The West is leading the escalation, because it is constantly trying to change the situation through deeper and deeper strikes against Russia. 4. Increased escalation leads to more deaths. 5. The West's muscle play leads to escalation, see point 3. 6. The West is playing with other people's lives, Russia is already fighting with its own people and on its own borders. Who do you want to scare?
@@qingzhou9983 I don't know about that, I don't believe China is all into Russia's transgressions with the West, I believe it sees Putin's mistakes in invading Ukraine causing a lot of problems in the world and China above all else likes order and gathering prestige through trade not destruction.
Of course, even Blinken early on said the Ukrainians would become overmatched and lose. 500,000+ deaths later, and Americans talking about how this was a good investment to harm Russia (i.e., fighting to the last Ukrainian as it were), well, what a needless debacle this amounts to.
How can a country with investors not willing to pay taxes in UK and a government not caring about own infrastructure be a military power? Port Talbot was close now artillery shells are made out of what ? "Working on a lathe" is also not what you get when doing exit interviews with GCSE students
SEE HERE YOU PEDDLE FANTASY AGAIN. Its not that investors do not want to pay taxes in the UK. Its the fact of being made to pay vastly more taxes so that individuals can lay on their arse and do nothing. The liebour party put taxes up so high that all the well of people left the country. The country lost all of their spending power. And on their way out they closed all their businesses. Some of them never returned. And this is the same narrative that is being peddled now. Which is tax those who have worked hard and sacrificed and risked to create job. So that a load of lefties can stay at home and do nothing but moan and undermine the country they are in. So who pays for all the promises the leibour party makes when the well off leave the country and do not have to pay a cent in taxes?
Amazing interview! Very complete and in-depth analysis on Ukraini war. I totally agree that the most bold Nato strategy toward Ukraini war is the thorougly Russian defeat in Ukraine. Slava Ukraini
Abd the USA and Russia who lost 24 million people fighting the Nazis 9 million in armed forces. My uncle was in the Murmansk supply line had it not been for Russia it eould have taken another 3 years to defeat Nazi Germany
@@brubeker12 in 1940 the USSR was allied with Nazi Germany. The point was that the general claimed that Britain stood alone in 1940. They did not. BTW,, just as now; Muscowy was using other ethnicities as cannonfodder, Belarussia lost 23% of it's population, Ukraine about the same (not to mention the Holodomor ten yeas before), so write USSR, not Russia. Muscowy is and remains a terror state, they do not deserve credit for the win.
Russia is winning this war. The West has trouble accepting this fact. They've missed so many facts in this conversation. Such as, the Minsk agreement stated that Ukraine is to stay a neutral country and nato was not to expand into Ukraine the US also assured putin that nato will not step one foot into Ukraine. This threat has antagonised putin. By nato expanding in Ukraine would mean US military bases on the border. That is a direct threat to russias security. I'm pretty sure if putin put weapons on the Mexico border. The US would react the same way.. hypocrisy at its best. Another fact. The Ukrainian azov military, who are known nazis, have killed many ethnic Russians in the donbass and crimea regions the azov are brutal racist nazis that are being funded by our western leaders. putin doesn't want to take western Ukraine. He doesn't want to rule Ukrainians either.. he's been open to negotiating a peace deal, and he's been ignored. If any of these idiots had listened to what he's been saying all along, they would know this. Nato don't have the military capability to beat russia. The munition factory's are not their to produce munitions! Nato is a joke. US military are nothing like how they used to be.. that's a fact.. these useless idiots think they are still back in the nineties.. Turkey who are nato members, made a statement that they will not engage in the war with russia. Turkey has the largest military in nato. Its ridiculous to even believe that putin wants Europe. For one he doesn't have the capabilities to even try it. False western propaganda yet again. The children that russia took were found safe and sound. These children were taken to safety at the requested by the parents. I always to listen to both sides. The stupidity of the west is unbelievable. And Reckless. Ukraine was never going to win the war. All the US has done is to put the Ukrainians into the meat grinder for their own political foreign corrupt policies. This is a US proxy war and zelensky was put into power by the US.
We don't 'choose' to be born...we just arrive in the hope that other people will take care of us and in return we take care of them. Nobody should be allowed to be in a position to 'kill' both their own and other people because of some belief otherwise....'we are one race of humans and animals' etc.,
SK has actually behaved very officially neutrally even tho they have provided the munitions or somesuch, and are a key globacl provider of such armaments. But given history of UN/nato etc viasivs the Korean war and Russia, S.K. will likely participate fully in any regional wars
Fighting with their hands tied behind their backs was NEVER a plan that leads to Ukrainians surviving as a people, let alone a country. This is a war to the finish for both sides, it's time Ukraine's backers understand that.
It’s also time that the backers of Russia understand that the Russian economy is in freefall. Very soon Russia will disintegrate as a country. Europe cannot and will NEVER accept a Russian win in Ukraine 🇺🇦🇪🇺🇺🇸👍
Great interview Jonathan and loving your Silicon Curtain Chanel. If may can I suggest a further interview topic that I don't think has been addressed. If we can agree that the current level of aid is likely to prolong esculation and the war and create at least a stalemate for Ukraine if not a loss , how much support is needed to actually get the job done ? I mean realistically what level on military aid is necessary to " win " the war in Ukraine short of a full war with Russia and how exactly would this look like from your military experts point of view ?
that question is answered only by listening to the scores of vid's on youtube, on this channel for past two yrs, and even more so on teh more military focused channels like .. Anders somesuch, and Perun, and ..there are several that should show up on your feed.
@@18_rabbit yes I love andrs and watch a lot of his stuff. I'm new to this channel but it's been great content. Can you share a link of video that best addresses this question from silicon curtain.
They are out of men? Seriously? "We don't have much time. We have a lot of injured, killed, both military and civilians. So we do not want this war to last for years. Therefore, we have to prepare this plan and put it on the table at the second peace summit," Zelensky said. Unless they do something stupid. It's over.
The green men invasion of 2014 was the equivalent (maybe) of the Nazi invasion of Poland in 1939. We just don’t recognize it yet, as we didn’t for years after ww2 had started.
14:45 WWIII, more known as the Cold War, has been lost by Muscovy on 1991. And immediately after that Muscovy has started the ongoing WWIV, once Boris Yeltsin signed so called Belovezha Accords dismissing the USSR. Which fact became evident in 1992 when Muscovy tried to annex Crimea for the first time, and then repeated those attempts three times more before the invasion of 2014.
So called Cold War consisted of countless local wars in Europe, Asia, Africa and Latin America that involved dozens of countries all around the world, starting from guerilla wars in Ukraine and Lithuania, civil wars in Korea, Vietnam, Angola, coups in Chile, Cuba, Nicaragua, interventions in Czechoslovakia, Hungary, Afghanistan and much more, so it was the WWIII indeed.
Gentlemen, a fantastic interview. Looking back to the Salisbury Poisonings was Russia given a finger wagging, how close was that if at all to breaching Article 5?
The USA cares about democracy ( for now anyway 😑) and is a huge nation with a huge military. USA would make the difference against Putin, not the UK. But UK should care much more for their own protection.
At the 16:00 min mark, Sir Richard on foreign policy and geopolitics rarely playing a part in British general elections in he last 100 years - "...what a far cry from the days when Gladstone was talking to packed crowds about the Balkan massacres..." - Sir Richard is not only the quintessential military leader, but a great historian. My ancestry is from the Balkans and my Great Grandparents on my father's Bosnian side were impacted immensely by the Ottoman Turks. From Encyclopaedia Britannica - "Bulgarian Horrors, atrocities committed by the forces of the Ottoman Empire in subduing the Bulgarian rebellion of 1876; the name was given currency by the British statesman W.E. Gladstone. Publicity given to the atrocities, especially in Gladstone’s pamphlet “The Bulgarian Horrors and the Question of the East” (1876), served to arouse public sympathy in Europe for the Bulgarians and other southern Slavs attempting to gain independence from the Ottoman Empire."
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Excellent interview. Excellent analysis from Richard Shirreff.
One thing absolutely puzzles me: With so many great military minds and strategic thinkers clearly agreeing on how (and why) to ensure Ukrainian victory, why oh why, do western leaders seem not to listen to such obviously experienced and knowledgeable voices?
I would love to hear a discussion on that one. Do leaders consult people like Shirreff? Do they take their opinions on board? And if not, why not? Who exactly advises western leaders on their strategies, or lack thereof?
@garyleahy2524
An important point. How about a different format. 90 minutes panel with Sir RS, Gen Ben Hodges and a third like Jon Curtice who would have a better insight that most as to how politicians focus on opinion polls. 3 highly accomplished interviewees with nothing to prove.
@@porschewillthe problem is there's not near enough public forums of strategic defense in support of Ukraine winning the war verses Kremlin propagandists. Do we want to preserve our countries more than Putin, Xi and other fascists want to destroy us? That is the problem
There is definitely a power controlling all nations in the UN. I believe they are in control of this war. It does make sense to instigate war if one understands the power at the top of the pyramid.
Because Russia owns the escalation advantage all the way to Nuclear War.
Ukraine is willing to go that far just like Russia. But US and key NATO countries like France, Germany, and U.K. do NOT!
The strategy is working.
This needs to be costly for Russia. A quick victory doesn't serve western interests.
The US is carving Russia entirely out of the system in a permanent fashion.
It's so reassuring to see every time you interview a general, there will be a well filled bookshelf in the background. I wish the same were the case with politicians.
I zoomed in and only saw "Beano" and "dandy".
Trump has a great comic book collection.
Clear thinking individuals know that weakness invites escalation, and yet some significant world leadership still appear to be frozen like a deer caught staring at the approaching headlights.
Exactly
@@thomasbenian4701I recommend under the bed for you, deer.
Let's try a thought-experiment :
What would President John Fitzgerald Kennedy do in a world where The United States was a mass of land that stretches from Eastern Europe to the Pacific Ocean, and Russia was working on getting a potentially nuclear enabled military base in a Cuba that is the size of, say, Ukraine, by, not least of which, effectuating a regime change ?
Would President John Fitzgerald Kennedy just sit by like a deer caught in the headlights, or would he threaten with potentially lethal but necessary retaliation ?
Well go fight for it than. I’m not planning to fight nobody’s war and i don’t know about you so
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The solution will not be found within the same framework in which the problem was created. Albert Einstein once said, “No problem can be solved from the same level of consciousness that created it.” We need a paradigm shift, if we want to survive as a species.
It’s weird that every time the financial system comes to an end, governments rush to war🤨
Sir Richard Shirreff is absolutely spot on. I enjoy his commentary.
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Thank you Jonathan for inviting Sir Shirreff . Totally agree with his view .💙💛👏👏✌️✌️✌️
Shireff is absolutely right. Politicians have been sleepwalking, unwilling to spend on defence and to raise taxes to do that.
So point on. Finally, I have found competent people who can look at an issue like I do. I would propose that we have under some circumstances as little as seven months to go in being able to achieve a Ukrainian victory before it is too late and a wide war becomes inevitable.
The support from people, ordinary people, has proven to be as valuable, maybe more valuable, than the dribs and drabs coming from the collective governments.
Let's get on with it.
@@ninemoonplanet yep and we Yanks will have to get a Democrat in the WH this Nov, or it's very hard to see DJT not either secretely underming Ukr or outright forcing a compromise along Putin's 'dream of Ukrain' that DJT said he understands!!!
The problem with recruitment in Great Britain is many people no longer see anything Great about it, particularly as we are currently being invaded. . As Richard Shirreff says here, quote: " At the end of the day it is the duty of government to secure and protect the state "
Add to that the fact the education system has been teaching the last couple of generations how terrible we are and how ashamed we should be
Add to that the fact the education system has been teaching the last couple of generations how terrible we are and how ashamed we should be
Add to that the fact the education system has been teaching the last couple of generations how terrible we are and how ashamed we should be .....
Add to that the fact we've has been teaching generations that we're terrible and how ashamed we should be
@bobbyrayofti dont buy that explanation. hefamilysmith24
Our concerns are so much more bearable when we see what outstanding people take outstanding action to fight Russia and other authoritarian regimes from trying to undermine and destroy our system from within. Thank you both for dedicating so much effort to inform and for staying strong.
One of the two best sources of information and insight on the Ukraine war. Thanks Jonathan.
Dropped everything on my watch list for this one, insight of Sir Shirreff is exceptional!
auto correct on iphone gave me untold revisions of "Shirreff", now fixed on pc, must have redone10x, challenges of a name that's not quite not orthographically permitted in our spellcheck era!
True that!
Exceptional as lies go! This Sir knows that CIA, MI6 spent from 2002 to 2014 in Ukraine and took them 12 years for the coup to succeed! He knows from then on another 8 years were spent arming and training, plus $100's of billion's bribing Ukrainian's corrupt officials to kill over 14,000 Russian farmers, children, families locked in a hall burnt alive, before Russia responded. Who in 2 years war killed 16,000 civilian's 550 children among them! In Palestine 5000 plus children and 15,000 civilian's killed in 3 weeks! The2 US Apache helicopter pilots admitted since that they were given orders to shoot anyone moving, their tanks ran over hundreds more of partygoers, and those who were telling publicly that it was their own killing them are locked away in mental institution's so they can't talk, at least 50 "took" their own lives! Sir also knows that the $ billion's borrowed from their masters to fund this war, UK, taxpayers won't be able to repay in 5 generation's or that this war caused 1.6 million homeless in UK alone maybe more since I've seen the UK documentary! Sir knows, the citizen's who finance it don't!
Why do you call it insight? Did you think just for a second, that he could talk and talk and true could be very far from what he is spreading?
@@mirekslechta7161 He's certainly a more trustworthy opinion than that which comes out of Moscow, Russia exports more lies than it does oil.
A good sumup of where we are standing today, with a very knowledgeable guest. Thank you.
Thank you, Jonathan and Richard Shirreff, for this powerful conversation. Very much appreciated.
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Superb stuff as always Jonathan. Slava Ukraini!
How awful that were having a bloody war in the 21st century!
We will never stop having them.
Unfortunately wars have been the most unfortunate constant among nations and people. Shorter wars are often the most 'efficient' use of military forces. Ugly, horrific, brutal, but as humans we fight over territory, back yards to entire countries. "Stand your ground" mindsets. 🤬🤦♀️
It's Human nature.
We are a greedy, selfish and destructive species.
Nation will rise against nation.........
Technologies improve, but humanity doesn't. I predict we will still have wars in many thousand years in the future.
Point of order
In 1940 Britain was NOT alone. India, Canada, Australia, New Zealand and many many other countries fought by your side. Indeed, Darwin received more bombs than England in WW 2. But for some reason Britain thinks they did it all alone for 2 years...
Darwin did not receive more bombs than England, no where near close. There was only one large air raid that did kill several hundred people, followed by smaller raids that killed no one.
It is always a great pleasure to hear General Shirreff speak. He has great wisdom backed by experience on the battlefield. Europe's Russian problem would quickly be solved if the General was one of the presidential candidates in the United States presidential election...
as an american, i agree!
Putin: Don't use foreign weapon systems in Ukraine if you don't want to escalate.
Also Putin: I will be bringing North Korean infantry into the fight....
Isn't the problem fundamentally that psycho dictators are better at nuclear blackmail than democracies?
Yeah... it's a response
Crystal clear
And WHY NOT IN UKRAIN THERE ARE NATO SOLDIERS ,IF YOU SWALLOW THAT THEY ARE MERCENERIES YOH ARE A FOOL. GOD BLESS RUSSIA ALWAYS,
He didn’t say infantry… even though that’s probably what will happen! 😂
The United Kingdom has 213 total battle tanks. That would last 4 weeks in a war. When will the Brits get serious about Defense ?
You forgot about their world-beating navy!😂
If anything tanks in this war have very little impact?
Drones, high tech long range storm shadows, good intelligence, are where the investments are required!
And 250 in reserve,
Britain's shift away from armor and the 100 year old strategy of armored warfare is being proved as we speak , in Ukraine.
Britain invented the tank, Britain's
Captain sir basil liddell Hart invented the concept of blitzkrieg ten years before the nazis came to power, and hheinz guderian was an avid reader of harts theories.
Britain's shift towards 21st century weapons has already begun.
Taranis, a long range autonomous stealth fighter bomber has been tested extensively at woomera in Australia.
Dragonfire, the British long range all weather laser has, in a world first, been successfully tested in may this year.
It will form the backbone of an integrated nationwide defence system, capeable of destroying multiple hypersonic missile attacks.
It will eventually be fitted to most royal navy ships.
The new hawker tempest development contracts have been signed. Tempest will be 6th gen, will combine a self repairable skin, deployable drone wingmen, will carry both conventional munitions and portable dragonfire.
It's prototype engines currently under development by rolls Royce and bae.
It would take 20 weeks to call up and train 250,000 soldiers,
And in a beaveresque edict, roughly the same to equip them.
As for tanks,.... Why?
You can construct 4 armoured vehicles for the price of one tank,
Both of which are succeptible to ever more powerful drones.
Much better to refine drone tech to a point where battlefields will become no go areas,
Extinct, unable to be crossed..... That leaves long range missile tech,
Which brings us back to particle weapons, lasers, kinetic energy projectiles, and skilled operators.
That is the future.
Tanks are being negated by drones and missiles !
We have been running down are military and navy for years since the end of the Cold War the blame is squarely at both Labour and conservatives! The shit has hit the fan now.
Great interview. I think you help to get the best out of experienced, well informed intellectuals like Shirreff; and the weight of their opinion backed by experienced carries a conviction that really helps persuade anyone one the fence.
There's a good word: mountebank!! And this is the best podcast of its kind. One of the best of any kind. Jonathan, you are way too modest about your achievement. This and Ukraine the latest are my go-to sites for thoughtful information about the war in Ukraine and the geopolitics of Europe and Asia. Thank you so much!
Slava Ukraine, thanks for all you work
South Korea is thinking...when NKs soldiers die in the Donbass...They won't be able to fight them on the Korean peninsula!
I don't know how south Korea thinks, but north Korean combat troops in Ukraine could inspire them to send more to Ukraine, quicker. But maybe it could have a cooling effect as well. But south Korea would definitely not take any offence over north Korean combat capacity being kaputted in Ukraine.
Excellent Guest!
The best discussion on the topic i have heard in 2.5 years. All the important aspects covered so well. Thanks a lot!
👍👍👍 🙏 thank you!
Sir Richard Sheriff is one of few people who have spoken the truth and hits the nail on the head every single time. Thank you Sir!
So, what is wrong with the western leaders? Why are we still afraid? 1000% agree that we MUST switch from DEFEND terminology to WIN terminology.
What are they afraid of? I dunno. What about that little thing that we've never had to deal with before. Nuclear armageddon!
Fascinating guest. Thank you Jonathan.
Jonathan…’…the UK was alone in 1940?….’ Even the UK war museum acknowledges the BEF had a large contingent of commonwealth forces (in case you didn’t know, that ibludes Canada, Australia, New Zealand, etc.) . Belgium, France, Poland etc., were all heavily represented in the allied effort before the USA entered the war….
World war 1 and 2 were won by Britain with the help of the British Indian army, the largest army to have fought both the world wars.
@@sreenathgopinathan5415 how many Indian troops were deployed (not just enlisted) and on what fronts? What were the number of combat casualties for Indian forces?
Finland has a wartime strength of 280 000 soldiers and about 900 000 reserve. By law we all have the responsibility to defende our country.
Do you have nuk@s?
You can never go wrong with Sheriff. One of the most tireless and convincing voices on why supporting Ukraine is in our self-interest and must be expanded in its breath and conviction. He’s a bit like the UK’s Hodges in that, but even more articulate.
At this time of crisis for Europe,we need somebody like Sir Richard as PM to guide us through it. A unity PM for the country agreed by both major parties would really focus minds - not to declare war on Russia,but to signal that we will ensure that Russia is defeated. This will of course probably never happen,but one can hope. Also,I think Hodges is great-despite being overly optimistic on Crimea,we could now be seeing the start of an operation to take back Crimea which would be a huge blow to Russia.
How things have changed. When the fascists bombed Guernica, the city’s name was used for generations as a shorthand for savage, brutal attack on civilians….yet the maximum estimate for casualties is 1,650.
How many have died in Mariupol? And it is nearly forgotten…all so some countries can get back to importing cheap oil and gas, and shopkeepers and cafe owners in resorts can return to welcoming Russian tourists.
That’s an important point.
Great show Jonathan! Thank you for your work and engagement! I’m a big fan. 💚
WWI never ended.
Game over for Tesla!
There must always be war lest the Roman Empire be reunited. Bible says it will not be recombined.
exactly. listening to boring Western minds who know nothing about history. w Germany entered NATO, the east part is removed and now NATO is in front of Moscow (entered first in Berlin)? makes sense (NATO already takes care of Belgrade who stopped them earlier)
The cold war never ended in the minds of some rather influential Russians.
@@stephenhill545 Neither to some in USA. I never thought of the Russians but you are right.
The US is not covering Ukraine nearly enough. Thank you for this stream. US citizen here. Fighting against trump. Rooting for Ukraine and Europe.
me too! here in the PNW, USa. Unfortunately coverage has been so sparse for entire war.
Refreshing commentary from a very well informed and experienced expert!
Thank you for an informative and enjoyable interview.
The guy does not understand source of the conflict. This is the reason he does not understand what is going on in Ukraine and why.
Putin is not escalating its the west for your kind information.
Great talk, Great Guest! Thank you!
Excellent podcast, great guest..
For those of us unable to provide military support, I think it's time for us to do what we can to help Ukranian military forces with some funds.
THEY know what they need, what can be purchased within Europe and Ukraine.
Feeling powerless to do something is something WE can overcome. I will. 🔱🇺🇦🇨🇦
Stop being ridiculous, open your bloody eyes
what the bloody hell do you mean ?
You sound like another hysterical loon. This war is coming to an end, we are sick of wasting our tax revenue on this madness, it has failed
Make sure to support individual military units then. Most brigades have donation links set up. All the large international aid organisations are just as bureaucratic and useless as always.
England has blood on their hands
Russia has always had the strategic initiative which to me is so completely bonkers that we’re just reacting to their terror. Russia invaded Europe over 10 years ago and we're still trying to figure out what equipment to send to Ukraine and how we should approach Russia.
I find it so fascinating that everybody knows we're heading for a critical point, when Russia can't really do anything else except to use nukes, a trajectory more or less indisputable by most experts, so why the heck are we still on this path as it only have downsides? This slow, reluctant indecisive behavior is in itself escalatory and is indirectly the cause of many dead and wounded Ukrainians.
We have one big advantage over Russia and that is muscles. If there’s ANY one tool which we can use to deter Russia without having to actually do anything, it’s to show them our muscles.
Another point to this is that countries like China would probably be friendly with the stronger side, in other words perhaps wouldn’t provide any help to Russia.
Agree with all of that you just have to convince the morons in power.unlike zelensky they will be looking for a plane ride .not ammo.
West does not have Nuclear advantage over Russia around Ukraine.
And PRC would not allow Russia to lose because they know they will be the next target by US.
Omg have you no intelligence
1. Ukraine is not Europe.
2. Ukraine was first "invaded" by the USA.
3. The West is leading the escalation, because it is constantly trying to change the situation through deeper and deeper strikes against Russia.
4. Increased escalation leads to more deaths.
5. The West's muscle play leads to escalation, see point 3.
6. The West is playing with other people's lives, Russia is already fighting with its own people and on its own borders. Who do you want to scare?
@@qingzhou9983 I don't know about that, I don't believe China is all into Russia's transgressions with the West, I believe it sees Putin's mistakes in invading Ukraine causing a lot of problems in the world and China above all else likes order and gathering prestige through trade not destruction.
Thank you for your commitment to keeping important truths in the public debate.
UK - Don’t let your politicians turn a great nation into a Dunkirk !
Englandstan
Of course, even Blinken early on said the Ukrainians would become overmatched and lose. 500,000+ deaths later, and Americans talking about how this was a good investment to harm Russia (i.e., fighting to the last Ukrainian as it were), well, what a needless debacle this amounts to.
Support this channel.
It is too late for Ukraine.
Thank you, Jonathan. Slava Ukraini 🇺🇦
It's not afraid of word war three... It's a matter of a far superior force to stop Putin in Ukraine...
I wish Shirreff could be Pres. of the U.S.
Make Britain worth fighting for, vote reform ❤
Incremental milk toast support needs to be replaced with solid muscle support.
Brilliant session,thanks Jonathan 👍🇬🇧🇺🇦
Thank you, Jonathan and Sir Richard. Great talk.
To me, India's factor is quite ambiguous.
India favor authorotarian above democracy...
Outstanding conversation!
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How can a country with investors not willing to pay taxes in UK and a government not caring about own infrastructure be a military power?
Port Talbot was close now artillery shells are made out of what ?
"Working on a lathe" is also not what you get when doing exit interviews with GCSE students
SEE HERE YOU PEDDLE FANTASY AGAIN. Its not that investors do not want to pay taxes in the UK. Its the fact of being made to pay vastly more taxes so that individuals can lay on their arse and do nothing. The liebour party put taxes up so high that all the well of people left the country. The country lost all of their spending power. And on their way out they closed all their businesses. Some of them never returned. And this is the same narrative that is being peddled now. Which is tax those who have worked hard and sacrificed and risked to create job. So that a load of lefties can stay at home and do nothing but moan and undermine the country they are in. So who pays for all the promises the leibour party makes when the well off leave the country and do not have to pay a cent in taxes?
Thanks again for the update!
Amazing interview! Very complete and in-depth analysis on Ukraini war. I totally agree that the most bold Nato strategy toward Ukraini war is the thorougly Russian defeat in Ukraine. Slava Ukraini
And you think Russia with all its nuclear weapons will be another Libya or Balkans...they rather go down with the West and the US!
Really clear messaging, I wish more westerners thought that clearly.
I want Trump to answer the question why in 2017 he didn't stop the war in Ukraine in one day.
It hadn't started maybe?
@@___spiritofadventure___Of course it did!
The real question is why America , using Boris enabled it by kaiboshing the April agreement?
Superb post, thank you.
The UK was not alone in 1940; it had an empire of about 900 million behind it.
Abd the USA and Russia who lost 24 million people fighting the Nazis 9 million in armed forces. My uncle was in the Murmansk supply line had it not been for Russia it eould have taken another 3 years to defeat Nazi Germany
@@brubeker12 in 1940 the USSR was allied with Nazi Germany. The point was that the general claimed that Britain stood alone in 1940. They did not.
BTW,, just as now; Muscowy was using other ethnicities as cannonfodder, Belarussia lost 23% of it's population, Ukraine about the same (not to mention the Holodomor ten yeas before), so write USSR, not Russia. Muscowy is and remains a terror state, they do not deserve credit for the win.
900 million peasants.
@@kellanhills1972 most of any country's population were peasants; what are you trying to say?
Russia is winning this war. The West has trouble accepting this fact. They've missed so many facts in this conversation. Such as, the Minsk agreement stated that Ukraine is to stay a neutral country and nato was not to expand into Ukraine the US also assured putin that nato will not step one foot into Ukraine. This threat has antagonised putin. By nato expanding in Ukraine would mean US military bases on the border. That is a direct threat to russias security. I'm pretty sure if putin put weapons on the Mexico border. The US would react the same way.. hypocrisy at its best. Another fact. The Ukrainian azov military, who are known nazis, have killed many ethnic Russians in the donbass and crimea regions the azov are brutal racist nazis that are being funded by our western leaders. putin doesn't want to take western Ukraine. He doesn't want to rule Ukrainians either.. he's been open to negotiating a peace deal, and he's been ignored. If any of these idiots had listened to what he's been saying all along, they would know this. Nato don't have the military capability to beat russia. The munition factory's are not their to produce munitions! Nato is a joke. US military are nothing like how they used to be.. that's a fact.. these useless idiots think they are still back in the nineties.. Turkey who are nato members, made a statement that they will not engage in the war with russia. Turkey has the largest military in nato. Its ridiculous to even believe that putin wants Europe. For one he doesn't have the capabilities to even try it. False western propaganda yet again. The children that russia took were found safe and sound. These children were taken to safety at the requested by the parents. I always to listen to both sides. The stupidity of the west is unbelievable. And Reckless. Ukraine was never going to win the war. All the US has done is to put the Ukrainians into the meat grinder for their own political foreign corrupt policies. This is a US proxy war and zelensky was put into power by the US.
A military man will be in favour of military action. Stopping the war is what is needed.
Thanks! For doing what you do . Slava Ukraini from Vienne/Autriche
Great
We don't 'choose' to be born...we just arrive in the hope that other people will take care of us and in return we take care of them. Nobody should be allowed to be in a position to 'kill' both their own and other people because of some belief otherwise....'we are one race of humans and animals' etc.,
South Korea should send troops to Ukraine.
No!!!
If they “should” then we should!
SK has actually behaved very officially neutrally even tho they have provided the munitions or somesuch, and are a key globacl provider of such armaments. But given history of UN/nato etc viasivs the Korean war and Russia, S.K. will likely participate fully in any regional wars
Great guest speaker. More of him please.
Fighting with their hands tied behind their backs was NEVER a plan that leads to Ukrainians surviving as a people, let alone a country. This is a war to the finish for both sides, it's time Ukraine's backers understand that.
It’s also time that the backers of Russia understand that the Russian economy is in freefall. Very soon Russia will disintegrate as a country. Europe cannot and will NEVER accept a Russian win in Ukraine 🇺🇦🇪🇺🇺🇸👍
❤❤❤...... that's what you call turning the facts around..... preaching to the converted. ❤❤❤
Most interesting discussion
Great interview Jonathan and loving your Silicon Curtain Chanel. If may can I suggest a further interview topic that I don't think has been addressed. If we can agree that the current level of aid is likely to prolong esculation and the war and create at least a stalemate for Ukraine if not a loss , how much support is needed to actually get the job done ? I mean realistically what level on military aid is necessary to " win " the war in Ukraine short of a full war with Russia and how exactly would this look like from your military experts point of view ?
that question is answered only by listening to the scores of vid's on youtube, on this channel for past two yrs, and even more so on teh more military focused channels like .. Anders somesuch, and Perun, and ..there are several that should show up on your feed.
@@18_rabbit yes I love andrs and watch a lot of his stuff. I'm new to this channel but it's been great content. Can you share a link of video that best addresses this question from silicon curtain.
They are out of men? Seriously?
"We don't have much time. We have a lot of injured, killed, both military and civilians. So we do not want this war to last for years. Therefore, we have to prepare this plan and put it on the table at the second peace summit," Zelensky said. Unless they do something stupid. It's over.
Zelensky said a few months ago that ukraine only have 30k dead.
Russia is now reporting 2k daily casualties for ukraine.
30,000 is an all out lie. @@davidshapiro292
Sorry not Putins fault. Escalation is on us. Use your mind and try to think.
Excellent interview!!
Excellent as usual!
Slava UKRAINI! 🇺🇦🤘🔥
Excellent interview and very factual what needs to happen for Ukrainian 👍
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WW3 has already started
We're already in WWIII, we just haven't seen the major players go kinetic. Yet...
What a nonsense. A world warwould require at least a significant number of countries involved in war. Not even the Russians confess they are in war.
Awesome channel..thankyou
The green men invasion of 2014 was the equivalent (maybe) of the Nazi invasion of Poland in 1939. We just don’t recognize it yet, as we didn’t for years after ww2 had started.
History has a way of repeating itself.
this guy is pretty sharp i mean that with respect
14:45 WWIII, more known as the Cold War, has been lost by Muscovy on 1991. And immediately after that Muscovy has started the ongoing WWIV, once Boris Yeltsin signed so called Belovezha Accords dismissing the USSR. Which fact became evident in 1992 when Muscovy tried to annex Crimea for the first time, and then repeated those attempts three times more before the invasion of 2014.
This was not a war on world scale; ergo it couldn't be WWIll
So called Cold War consisted of countless local wars in Europe, Asia, Africa and Latin America that involved dozens of countries all around the world, starting from guerilla wars in Ukraine and Lithuania, civil wars in Korea, Vietnam, Angola, coups in Chile, Cuba, Nicaragua, interventions in Czechoslovakia, Hungary, Afghanistan and much more, so it was the WWIII indeed.
LOL. Putin escalating ? ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING US?
I'm in the position and we are in the position now that we must defeat Vladimir Putin's army
Gentlemen, a fantastic interview. Looking back to the Salisbury Poisonings was Russia given a finger wagging, how close was that if at all to breaching Article 5?
I like the Mountebank reference to Farage 😅
UK naivity that Ukr.can win & get back Crimea, etc.
Great guest!
Pentagon/ white house should LISTEN Closer to THIS Fellow !!
Another very interesting and really important conversation, thank you both, excellent work
The host is a BS king. Love it ❤❤❤
Finally a solid interview !
Excellent Discussion , Thank You !!
The United Kingdom has a total armed force of 144,000, It does not seem that the UK cares. Why should the USA care if the UK does not ?
And you'd think the way they shout their mouths off, they'd be a force to be reckoned with. 😂
Lilliputian military!
The USA cares about democracy ( for now anyway 😑) and is a huge nation with a huge military. USA would make the difference against Putin, not the UK. But UK should care much more for their own protection.
@@klaasvakieIt's surface fleet is better than Purin's.
@@klaasvakietry fighting us.
FA and FO, as they say.