I actually love what Jacks doing here, most people would want to swing at JJ but instead of going to anger he’s being pragmatic with empathy and accountability it send JJ down in a diplomatic manner.
@@Jodacro-it4zz People aren't going to want to hear this, but JJ is mentally traumatized as well as stunted in his maturity due to his mothers behaviour. This doesn't happen for no reason. Granted, he is still responsible for his actions and he needs to face up to what he's done, especially at his current age (where he is more than capable of knowing he shouldn't be raping people, let alone his own sister). I'm not qualified enough to know whether that means he's a lost cause or not, I don't see how Frankie could ever forgive him and proceed to have a normal relationship with him even if he was rehabilitated.
@@Jodacro-it4zz I agree but with franki drinking again she basically is handing JJ that not guilty verdict. because his defence WILL use this against her and franky has basically pissed off everyone in the village at least once. as jack said she has a horrible reputation compared to JJ reputation which will make her fight all the harder. I hope JJ goes down though
I love the message this sends. Showing people compassion and understanding is a much better to way to get justice and find a way forward than exclusively punishing them. They aren’t going to change unless we give them a reason to.
Jack is THAT GUY... He's just THAT GUY. Jokes aside, this kid genuinely believes that he didn't do anything wrong. Besides prison, he needs therapy. Frankie needs it more than anyone. I get where this destructive behaviour is coming from, I've seen it first hand and my biggest regret is that we as a family didn't band together and let the person get counseling and psychiatric help. The stigma of seeking mental help is another destroyer of families and communities.
Ummm...he knew what he did was wrong because he kept hiding it, lying about it, and almost killed his sister because of it. He fully knew and understood. He just can't weasel his way out this. That's why he did what he did.
@ricksb5 he does deffo, what he did was wrong as we all know but he's sort of convinced himself he's done nothing wrong and sees Frankie as his personal property, poor girl 😢
Why did the friend walk away?! Never leave Anyone with their harasser alone! This isnt about being "brave, or not scared anymore" its dangerous! People who think they have nothing to lose are unpredictable and can lash out anytime! Also, the trial is the next day! They need a witness to testify how he sought her out beforehand!
@@carolesmith2619 OA and yeah I too was yelling at my screen when Cleo opened the door and I said RUN CLEO RUN! I hope she’ll escape from Abe’s “Carver ☺️” clutches soon. What do you think????? 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
This is bs. JJ is a selfish, entitled, narcissistic brat. He will never face up to what he's done. And the writers will write it up so that the pervert will get away with it. No justice
So *spoilers* JJ collapses at court tomorrow. I wonder if he makes an attempt on his own life because he finally starts to realise what he's done and the guilt finally begina to hit him
@@karamel1748 I've watched today's episode and it's actually neither my original an attempt on his life or a panic attack - I won't spoil it further and will let people have a chance to catch up on the show!
@@TaheerahA if the drama with him collapsing was just him acting to get out of the trail, I will be very disappointed with Hollyoaks for dragging out the storyline so much . That or me and my sister think maybe the foster family that took him in found out what he did to Frankie and have been abusing him too (as it showed he had bruises on his arm previously) 😅
Frankie is back to the nasty irritable little brat she was. If Frankie keeps hitting the self destruct button JJ wins. And JJ is just unhinged. He really can’t see the wrong in his actions
It's so frustrating watching Frankie act like this and it's hard to cheer for her when she keeps using her pain to turn everyone against her when they care for her. If she doesn't want be to tell her want to do, then she needs to grow up and be smarter. Also, she needs to understand that people are trying to help her but she keeps twisting their guidance into attacks.
I wonder whether they would recast Frankie older siblings Hannah and Josh as they should be there for the trial and to support Frankie after the budget was cut Emma Hannah actress who had agreed to stay for a year once again left the show unfortunately
As much as JJ needs to go down, Frankie isn’t doing herself any favors acting out the way she is. I get the stress she under still she giving JJ defensive team a lot of amo to use against her. Darren needs to talk to her or something. Love how Jack is trying to help spare Frankie further trauma.
Jack is my dad. He loves all his kids even though one of them is a f%*kwit. But my dad believes in order to heal and move on one must accept their wrong and make penance. I hurt for years but realised by letting go of my hurt and anger I can move forward. Trauma still there but I cant allow a mere thought of him to darken my mind again or risk this side of Frankie all over again. He has is own demons to contend with now. Good luck, Dad.
People keep ignoring JJ was also 9 when he abused Frankie when she was 9. Usually someone so young does not sexually abuse someone else and if a child does then usually That child was also abused. There's nothing "normal" about abuse but a 9 year old sexually abusing another 9 year old is not "normal" predatory behavior. If this was real life then I would be almost sure JJ had been abused or was being abused at the time prior to he abusing Frankie the first time.
Oh my OA JJ “Devereuax 😂” for the love of Brit Marling suck it up and start acting like a Man and do the right thing and for the record your Mother Suzanne wouldn’t’ve wanted her to lie she believed her before the crash happened. That part to where JJ said “Mum wanted you to help me” made me say “No she wouldn’t JJ she finally believed her own Daughter over you” however it was he ended up in foster care and how he got that bruise on his arm made me think he did that himself or if someone else at the foster care did that to him I would thought he deserved worse way worse than just a bruise. I remembered there being a flashback of it showing where Jack killed someone named Callum (although it makes me wonder if this Callum dude was also shown in the village Years ago along with his Brother Billy was also shown in the village Years ago too or maybe he just showed up in 2017) still I remember that happening when I started watching in 2016. Also I wonder since this Neville dude has been mentioned before twice by Suzanne and now Jack if he’ll ever come back to at least support Suzanne or at least for Frankie and I also wonder if he too is a Father. Also Frankie shouldn’t be partying like this on alcohol or anything she should listen to Vicky she if Ethan or Sienna “Shaw 😏” was there at the club then maybe they’d try to help her or something one of them has to get her to stop this for the trial tomorrow. 🙄
As someone who was once on the bandwagon criticizing Chelsey: She's not a predator, it looks like the 23 age number written on one of her videos was a typo and a lot of assumptions have been made about her. However, you have said some truly vile things to people for merely disagreeing with you, so it's hard for me to look at you the same way regardless after seeing some of the things you have said.
The fact remains that we haven't seen a full packed courtroom since 2019 so i wouldn't be surprised if it was cutting corners again for the sake of the ever reducing budget
I actually love what Jacks doing here, most people would want to swing at JJ but instead of going to anger he’s being pragmatic with empathy and accountability it send JJ down in a diplomatic manner.
i diddnt understand any of that bc im slow but ok
At this point, if JJ still refuses to accept responsibility for what he did, then he’s a lost cause.
He was a lost cause the minute he hurt Frankie.
@@Jodacro-it4zz People aren't going to want to hear this, but JJ is mentally traumatized as well as stunted in his maturity due to his mothers behaviour. This doesn't happen for no reason.
Granted, he is still responsible for his actions and he needs to face up to what he's done, especially at his current age (where he is more than capable of knowing he shouldn't be raping people, let alone his own sister).
I'm not qualified enough to know whether that means he's a lost cause or not, I don't see how Frankie could ever forgive him and proceed to have a normal relationship with him even if he was rehabilitated.
@@Jodacro-it4zzNobody is never a lost cause. Something clearly went wrong in his head as a child.
@@FrostByteVoyagerit happened a very long time ago even Suzanne knew about that because she took her daughter's phone away
@@Jodacro-it4zz I agree but with franki drinking again she basically is handing JJ that not guilty verdict. because his defence WILL use this against her and franky has basically pissed off everyone in the village at least once. as jack said she has a horrible reputation compared to JJ reputation which will make her fight all the harder. I hope JJ goes down though
I love the message this sends. Showing people compassion and understanding is a much better to way to get justice and find a way forward than exclusively punishing them. They aren’t going to change unless we give them a reason to.
what if jj doesnt want to change
How can JJ change after it happened for a very long time ago and Suzanne knew about that from the start that's why Suzanne took her daughter's phone
so you see m point then
@@Huedenne Me too.
@@garymcnabb5452 Then he won’t.
But why not give him the chance to just in case?
Jack is THAT GUY... He's just THAT GUY. Jokes aside, this kid genuinely believes that he didn't do anything wrong. Besides prison, he needs therapy. Frankie needs it more than anyone. I get where this destructive behaviour is coming from, I've seen it first hand and my biggest regret is that we as a family didn't band together and let the person get counseling and psychiatric help. The stigma of seeking mental help is another destroyer of families and communities.
Ummm...he knew what he did was wrong because he kept hiding it, lying about it, and almost killed his sister because of it. He fully knew and understood. He just can't weasel his way out this. That's why he did what he did.
@@charlizehendricks2113 He needs to be put in a prison, so he won’t hurt Frankie or other women.
JJ needs to be in prison.
CSS-Tails_Forever WD well yeah of course.
He also needs therapy.
@@ricksb5 Totally
@ricksb5 he does deffo, what he did was wrong as we all know but he's sort of convinced himself he's done nothing wrong and sees Frankie as his personal property, poor girl 😢
@@CSS-Tails_Forever OA so does Abe “Carver ☺️” for what he’s doing to Cleo. 😒😒😒😒😒
Hope that JJ confesses to his crimes and sincerely apologizes.
Why did the friend walk away?! Never leave Anyone with their harasser alone! This isnt about being "brave, or not scared anymore" its dangerous! People who think they have nothing to lose are unpredictable and can lash out anytime!
Also, the trial is the next day! They need a witness to testify how he sought her out beforehand!
JJ needs to go down for his despicable crimes!
OA I agree he needs to get what’s coming to him along with Abe “Carver ☺️”. 😒😒😒😒😒
@@ChelseyLindennow he is pure evil, I was shouting at the tv when Cleo couldn't leave the flat 😢😢
@@carolesmith2619 OA “flat”????? 🤨🤨🤨🤨🤨
@@carolesmith2619 OA and yeah I too was yelling at my screen when Cleo opened the door and I said RUN CLEO RUN! I hope she’ll escape from Abe’s “Carver ☺️” clutches soon. What do you think????? 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
Yes he needs to go away
Frankie needs justice
Jack is a really good person for trying to get through to JJ.
This is bs. JJ is a selfish, entitled, narcissistic brat. He will never face up to what he's done. And the writers will write it up so that the pervert will get away with it. No justice
JJ somehow turning his life around would be interesting to see.
I love this Frankie and JJ storyline, and hope that it has a happy ending.
If he doesn't do jail, 8 years probation, register sex offender, therapy, stay away order from Frankie for 10 years can't come within 100 feet of her
So *spoilers*
JJ collapses at court tomorrow. I wonder if he makes an attempt on his own life because he finally starts to realise what he's done and the guilt finally begina to hit him
I think it’s the same thing as when he collapsed in the osborne’s house, it’s deffo the guilt getting to him causing him to have a panic attack?
@@karamel1748 I've watched today's episode and it's actually neither my original an attempt on his life or a panic attack - I won't spoil it further and will let people have a chance to catch up on the show!
@@TaheerahA if the drama with him collapsing was just him acting to get out of the trail, I will be very disappointed with Hollyoaks for dragging out the storyline so much . That or me and my sister think maybe the foster family that took him in found out what he did to Frankie and have been abusing him too (as it showed he had bruises on his arm previously) 😅
I really hope Jackie gets through to him
He’s not gonna stick to his word. He’s a psychopath. Franke needs to be protected.
Jj need go jail for abusing his sister Frankie
Am I the only one who thinks when they went from 5 episodes a week to 3 they should have made the 3 episodes an hour long like Coronation Street ❤
i wish the full episodes werent blocked for me. id love to watch this show fully
Frankie is back to the nasty irritable little brat she was. If Frankie keeps hitting the self destruct button JJ wins. And JJ is just unhinged. He really can’t see the wrong in his actions
It's so frustrating watching Frankie act like this and it's hard to cheer for her when she keeps using her pain to turn everyone against her when they care for her. If she doesn't want be to tell her want to do, then she needs to grow up and be smarter. Also, she needs to understand that people are trying to help her but she keeps twisting their guidance into attacks.
I wonder whether they would recast Frankie older siblings Hannah and Josh as they should be there for the trial and to support Frankie after the budget was cut Emma Hannah actress who had agreed to stay for a year once again left the show unfortunately
Put JJ in prison!
I'm guessing he isn't gonna plead guilty and he'll somehow win the court trial
He won't win
But he Will delayed the process
Creepy I hope this poor dude doesn’t get type casted
Is you tube not showing episodes anymore :(
They still do
What would be the chances of JJ doing a runner bc he ends up in hospital. Also he was about to crack and tell the truth to Jack.
Oh, Jack, I'm not dead 😂😂😂
When is the court scene coming out?
JJ ship plead guilty for what he did Frankie is acting the way she should have been acting since the moment it happened
As much as JJ needs to go down, Frankie isn’t doing herself any favors acting out the way she is. I get the stress she under still she giving JJ defensive team a lot of amo to use against her. Darren needs to talk to her or something. Love how Jack is trying to help spare Frankie further trauma.
Jack saying to JJ tell the truth at count tomorrow.
Court* not count
He will never confess
Jack is my dad. He loves all his kids even though one of them is a f%*kwit. But my dad believes in order to heal and move on one must accept their wrong and make penance. I hurt for years but realised by letting go of my hurt and anger I can move forward. Trauma still there but I cant allow a mere thought of him to darken my mind again or risk this side of Frankie all over again. He has is own demons to contend with now. Good luck, Dad.
I don't like JJ at all after what he did he's still only thinking about himself.This should be about what Frankie is going thru not that criminal.
Do not make her lie lie OK we have been waiting for this day so he needs to go to jail. Please do not make the show go this way.
People keep ignoring JJ was also 9 when he abused Frankie when she was 9. Usually someone so young does not sexually abuse someone else and if a child does then usually That child was also abused. There's nothing "normal" about abuse but a 9 year old sexually abusing another 9 year old is not "normal" predatory behavior. If this was real life then I would be almost sure JJ had been abused or was being abused at the time prior to he abusing Frankie the first time.
JJ is sick 😫
He needs sent down with his sentence .
JJ is disgusting
What is the song at 6:18?
Cant stop me
JJ punishment should be he should be put in the timeout corner
Jj has so much potential I love his character Ryan so much my favourite actor ever and jj was my favourite he’s funny when he stirs up his lies
Why the hell is JJ your favourite character, he's a monster
@@Jodacro-it4zz just only when he lies it was funny 🤣
@@Jodacro-it4zzYou can still love Ryan's performance and acknowledge how twisted and horrible JJ is.
He's entitled.
Oh my OA JJ “Devereuax 😂” for the love of Brit Marling suck it up and start acting like a Man and do the right thing and for the record your Mother Suzanne wouldn’t’ve wanted her to lie she believed her before the crash happened. That part to where JJ said “Mum wanted you to help me” made me say “No she wouldn’t JJ she finally believed her own Daughter over you” however it was he ended up in foster care and how he got that bruise on his arm made me think he did that himself or if someone else at the foster care did that to him I would thought he deserved worse way worse than just a bruise. I remembered there being a flashback of it showing where Jack killed someone named Callum (although it makes me wonder if this Callum dude was also shown in the village Years ago along with his Brother Billy was also shown in the village Years ago too or maybe he just showed up in 2017) still I remember that happening when I started watching in 2016. Also I wonder since this Neville dude has been mentioned before twice by Suzanne and now Jack if he’ll ever come back to at least support Suzanne or at least for Frankie and I also wonder if he too is a Father. Also Frankie shouldn’t be partying like this on alcohol or anything she should listen to Vicky she if Ethan or Sienna “Shaw 😏” was there at the club then maybe they’d try to help her or something one of them has to get her to stop this for the trial tomorrow. 🙄
WD why are you still here?
As someone who was once on the bandwagon criticizing Chelsey:
She's not a predator, it looks like the 23 age number written on one of her videos was a typo and a lot of assumptions have been made about her. However, you have said some truly vile things to people for merely disagreeing with you, so it's hard for me to look at you the same way regardless after seeing some of the things you have said.
Please ignore Report and block The people replying to your comments their comments are rude and Disrespectful please don't reply to their comments
@@FrostByteVoyager OA what’s that got anything to do with my comment????? 🤨🤨🤨🤨🤨
@@neonnat OA that’s what they want me to do I won’t give in Natalie. 😒😒😒😒😒
I wonder if JJ is getting killed off bc he ends up in hospital
Hope so
The fact remains that we haven't seen a full packed courtroom since 2019 so i wouldn't be surprised if it was cutting corners again for the sake of the ever reducing budget
He isn’t getting killed.
@@livesteam125 I wouldn't be surprised if they had his character do a runner because that's what a lot of them do
@@livesteam125 looks like Frankie's not getting justice after all bc JJ has leukemia
His Mother Spoiled Him Way Too Much She Caused This Taken JJ s Side ???
hmmmmm....not sure what to think about this video. I didn't know Jack killed someone.
They revealed it in 2016. It was an accident.
Jack you need to stop
They’re both called Jack
Jack is trying to get JJ to confess as he knows the court will be harsh on Frankie.
Ye
I know
Are they blood siblings, or one of them adopted ?
Twins
Twinning my Mums dead too
Frankly looks different thought it was someone else
He won’t
We know he won't. They have to drag this on for months yet. It's so boring