Lip was so used to Fiona taking on all the responsibilities of the family he had no idea how heavy the burden was until she let just a fraction of it go , he crumbled
Fiona kicking the dryer after Monica stole the squirrel fund will always make me tear up and her inner child eyes when she said “I thought it would be different this time…” 😭😭😭
Fiona never had anyone to lean on i was so happy when ian told her to live her life he really was the most damaged but still tried to help his big sister so sweet
The best thing is that the Gallager children went to social services, it is obvious that Fiona was very dysfunctional (although she always said that thanks to her everyone got ahead), she almost killed Liam, she was a terrible example for Debbie with her bitch attitude, And so I can continue, Fiona is a fraud, she boasted about her success but the house that she presumed was in her name was thanks to Carl's drug money, she got her laundry business taking advantage of an old woman's Alzheimer's and I can go on, Enough of glorifying Fiona as a feisty woman who brought her brothers up, I think they had a better chance without her getting in the way.
Maturing is realizing that Liam getting into the drugs WAS Fionas fault, but it’s also realizing that she made a mistake, a horrible one, that she was so sorry for that she learned from it and never made it again. Maturing is understanding she did wrong and forgiving her for it.
Yes, it was without a doubt her mistake. Matter of fact, she made a lot of big mistakes in a row. But in context, Lip was wrong. Throughout the series, all characters made huge mistakes and she was the one that had their back no matter what. She was the one that held them all together, working several jobs, giving up her own life to allow them to have theirs. But the first time the situation was reversed, lip didn't wait a second to put all the blame on her and offer no help at all. Debbie was exactly like this as well, especially at that episode that Fiona gets her a job interview.
@@AndreNDP She "carried the load" for their entire lives? Every time Lip made a mistake or wanted anything she gave up on whatever she was doing to help him? The moment Fiona started putting herself first she got her life together, made a lot of money and . At the same time, Lip dropped out of school, became an alcoholic, and ended up frustrated at a regular job.
@@bcs1793 She chose that. And arguably made the wrong choice, because Debbie, Liam, and Ian all probably would've been better off in the system. Lip did plenty for her too, he hustled as much as he could to support the team, so don't act like this was all on Fiona.
Lip was the most ungrateful sack of sh t throughout the entire show. Fiona bent over backwards and sacrificed almost everything for that kid thru all his f k ups, but the moment she made a mistake he flipped on her and treated her like sh t.
@@idkwhattohaveasausername5828 ian’s shameless moments mostly involves him being bipolar which isn’t his fault. He’s easily the kindest sibling in the whole show.
I agree but her being a bad person and blaming everything she does on not having a real childhood is unexplainable at some point everyone in this show needed to stop acting like their actions dont have consequences. There is not a single good lesson in this show and anyone who tries to learn anyone morales from it is bound ro fail.
@@suds9365 Lip is easily the worst character of the whole show, narcissistic, sneaky, selfish and egoistic. Always blaming everyone else for his failures but when he has the chance to do something well for himself he messes it up because he is "from the south side" He blames fiona because her fucked up life ruines this so why should his life be ruined too, but he ruined it after this as well because he just simply is not as smart as he thought he was, he was just more intelligent than some of the people in his life and he thought being smart was just sitting and chilling and smoking and that he didn't have to do anything about it, but reality kicked in and he stayed in the hood because he wasn't successful for anywhere else. He was that loser to the point that he had to sell the house even though everyone else didn't wanted to sell it, but he had to because he was too broke to get his own place. He and Debbie had the worst endings and I'm glad because they were the worst characters
@@Luka-sz3ejif u think lip was a worse character than debby ur mistaken lol she 2 things that are worse than what anyone did in the show in r*ping matty & trapping derrick into getting her pregnant… lip did nothing on a scale to those things
I will forever LOVE Fiona. People always seem to forget she was a child raising a bunch of kids who WEREN'T hers. Lip was self centered and didn't realize everything Fiona wasn't allowed to do BECAUSE she was taking care of them. Lip wanted to play the role of a hoodlum, he wanted to be a statistic. Yes fiona messed up at times, but at the same time, ALL of them did, but because you see her in this Role of a parent, no one ever cuts her slack forgetting she's only 2-3 years older than lip.
Lip was a statistic. Self destructive. Depressed. Violent. Generational trauma. It got to him. The other kids tried one way or another. But as the oldest besides fionna he saw it all and it took him out
Lip needs someone to always blame for his wrong doings and emotions it turned exhausting. Then when Fiona does something he sees as disgraceful he later does the same thing .
So lip blaming fiona for the coke incident and and yelling at younes when he was in prison weren't responsible and I don't completely hate fiona and lip isn't my favorite and both have faults that they should've justified and fiona would go crazy and blame everyone too so fionas not really the victim hear.
Hilarious that you equate fiona as the victim here... sure she is a victim of parentification but that is all older siblings to an extent (I would know). Go rewatch liam ODing on her coke, then rewatch her dumbfounded expression as she's arrested (rightfully), then go to 2:44 and watch her and lip talk, then tell me once more with a straight face that lip is not justified in blaming her.
@@l3ftie578 no there's no reason for the face when she should know she was going to get arrested anyways and on a diffrent comment o this video both of them lip and fiona should be justified don't know why your defending a coke giver and a lier and a cheater though .
@@l3ftie578 bffr, have you watched the show entirely because I have like fifteen times. None of them are perfect and everyone makes mistakes. But when something good happens to Fiona for once, Lip shits on her parade.
the way in which lip could've graduated college, worked hard, and got out of this cyclical cycle always made me so upset, not really because he screwed up his chances (that's only half of it), but because everytime that fiona tried to do the SAME thing and messed up, he would berate her. and then the next time she'd try to get her life in check, he made it clear he had no faith in her. despite everything she did for him to get to college (again, just to mess up his best chance), he never acknowledged her sacrifice nor gave her grace for her struggles. absolutely the worst.
At the end why I love the bringing this show is Lip hates frank since day one….but literally turned out the most like him….All the smarts and intelligence in the world…but his addiction and pride got in the way and he fucked up all his chances….just like frank
I'm just now watching it and I can't stand him!! OMG makes me so mad. Remember when she sold the laudromat and made 75K and he was so jealous and ugly about it???
nobody is talking abt how well jimmy-steve handled the monica situation on thanksgiving… yes he turns out to be a horrible person😭😭 but i appreciate how he didnt freak tf out and immediately went to helping her while everyone grasped what they just saw
At 15:41 when Fiona rages on the washing machine due to Monica Monica-ing again, the frame is wide and includes the corner where Monica will later harm herself and shortly thereafter depart our realm. Notice how clean that whole space is, then notice its the only clean location in the whole room. Massive foreshadow. Something dreadful is coming and its place is set.
@@WhippedforMinhoLip was the worst character in the show, he had a god complex and looked at everyone as they were beneath him, always needed someone to blame. While Fiona was parentified from a young age and lost her all childhood because she had to watch her siblings, but when she wanted to spend some time in herself all hell break lose and Lip had to do what she was doing almost her whole life and he broke down into alcoholism. Sad she left the show but it was better for her to leave that hellhole. I don't understand Lip riders like you, either you haven't watched the show, are completely delusional or just circle around the cocain scene from S4
@@SadistiCoffee excuse me. She cheated on her husband, slept with another womans husband. Took money from the old woman living above the laundry mat she bought. Caused lip's sponsee to relapse. And abandoned them basically after getting guardianship and she never took accountability and always played the victim. She was the worst character and was completely selfish. Y'all saying Lip had a god complex are completely wrong.
Fiona fucked up a lot but Lip was way out of line blaming her for Jason drinking. He was the one that said the line "did she pour the vodka in your mouth?" earlier on. So he knows it's always the person's choice to drink.
Exactly, he knows that no one forced them to drink. When Fiona did it, she blamed her for drinking; when someone else drank, he blamed Fiona for "showing" him the drink???? Make it make sense. That fella is definitely fighting as one of the shittiest and most ungrateful sibling. Him and Debbie are insane.
Always pissed me off that Fiona helped lip off his feet when he was an alcoholic but lip wanted to kick Fiona out when she was struggling. They could never make me like Lip.
@@mtk1808 she did that as a necessary punishment as he got himself expelled on purpose, later leaving on his own because he stubbornly refused to go back to school. She did it because she actually cared, he did it because he has a serious ego problem.
@@mcrose9067 he didn’t kick Fiona out under the context of coke he kicked her out because she was drunk and falling apart mentally. She went to jail and paid for crimes, and the family grew to understand her. You are making a false equivalency.
@Cardboardwater why was she drunk and stuck in the house again? Oh yeah because she almost killed Liam with coke. If she had never almost killed Liam would lip have killed her out because she got drunk? It seems to me that the almost killing Liam is the part that had him upset and her irresponsible behavior is just what set him off.
Just to be clear Fiona did Not fail her family she was the older sister Not the mother she did way more than what she could and she shouldn’t be blamed for anything nothing is her fault she did what she could with what she had
Yeah shes just a kid herself taking care of all of them (especially early seasons) but people don't automatically think that or keep it in mind bc she looks/acts mature. Of course anyone would lose it eventually.
The best thing is that the Gallager children went to social services, it is obvious that Fiona was very dysfunctional (although she always said that thanks to her everyone got ahead), she almost killed Liam, she was a terrible example for Debbie with her bitch attitude, And so I can continue, Fiona is a fraud, she boasted about her success but the house that she presumed was in her name was thanks to Carl's drug money, she got her laundry business taking advantage of an old woman's Alzheimer's and I can go on, Enough of glorifying Fiona as a feisty woman who brought her brothers up, I think they had a better chance without her getting in the way.
@kingdee4785 There were other adults there right? Yes, she was the responsible adult for the household... If you call a young woman, older sister a "responsible adult". All the other adults there were almost responsible for what happened to him.
That’s the whole point. In a dysfunctional family, the kids end up turning on each other, playing out all the toxic stuff they’ve witnessed and experienced. It’s extra unfortunate.
“YOUR FUCKED UP LIFE” woah stop there ✋🏾. If she didn’t choose to take u in then u would’ve been in a worse lifetime. Always hated when they kept blaming Fiona. Then Lip yelling at Fiona for having his sponsor relapse…..how is she supposed to know. If he is around alcohol, that was his decision. Fiona wasn’t all sunshine n rainbows but there was a few times where Fiona genuinely was trying her best. Such an upsetting, real life scenario show.
I understand the Fiona/Lip relationship. Always some sort of discord bc of the dynamic in our family. Plus him being the older boy and me being the older girl. As hard as I tried I was never good enough for my family or him, I was the scapegoat and he was the golden child. His bare minimum was always enough, my all was always never noticed. His mess ups were always understood (even by me) and I was always crucified.
lip was always so unfair to fiona, of course she royally fucked up but she learnt from it and never made the same mistake, he just kept throwing it to her face and being highly disrespectful and acting like everyone else is wrong but him. truly one of the characters i hate the most, after debby
I never hated Fiona (the Liam incident was infuriating but I understand just how easily bad choices can lead quickly to consequences) but gd I hated the way they started writing her just before and moving forward from that incident. It felt less like her character being complex and more like the writers wanted to destroy her character.
@@youniqesparklez yeah, I also think that plays into the consequences of being an addict(s) daughter. She didn’t know life without chaos so when it started going well, should would self destruct so she had something fix, so someone needed her. She wanted to be alone but she didn’t know how without her family, no matter how crazy they made her, she loved being needed and loved the chaos. I do agree they wrote her into a lot of situations tho 😂 but I think this writing did showcase the feeling of being addicted to cortisol - the hormone we produce when we are stressed
People keep talking about Fiona leaving the cocaine out for Liam to get(which I agree it was her fault because why leave cocaine out on the counter in general when you know you have children in the house), but one of the episodes that pissed me off the most in the show is when Lip kept blaming her for stufg that was completely out of her control. 1. When DCFS came. Lip never even mentioned that they were coming to Fiona and got mad when the inspection failed. 2. That very same episode, he blamed her for Jason drinking again when he never told her that he was a sponser, that he had a sponsee, and that Jason was that sponsee. She didn't even know the guy and it was her first time meeting him.
When Veronica brought the vodka and Fiona got drunk, Lip said did you pour it down her throat? When his sponsee relapses and dies, it’s Fiona’s fault. Lip needs everything to be Fiona’s fault.
😂 the problem wasn’t just that she got him drunk it was that she was an Alcoholic who was spiraling down a bad path and showed 0 signs of changing. When he told her what she did she barely cared at all which is crazy. She was actively putting them at risk so he kicked her out that makes sense.
@@jinmali she was spiraling, and supporting her spiral would’ve only helped her self destruct. Kicking her out was the right thing. The right thing for Lip, the kids, and for Fiona. If not for that she would’ve ended up like Frank. That being said, it wasn’t her fault the guy broke his sobriety. She didn’t know who he was. She had no idea he was a sponsee. She didn’t even offer it to him. He literally asked for it. HER alcoholism was an entirely different issue. One that needed to be dealt with.
I always love how relatable the characters were. I always found I related to Lip the most. Being forced to take charge so early, the anger, resentment and frustration towards the world. Nobody in this show is perfect but the flaws they have are what shape them. They all handle things differently.
@@marianafeliciano6601yes, but the real fault was the parents’, like obviously teens or tweens are going to be extremely immature about how to create a life for the younger ones, Fiona and Lip barely got to mess up and enjoy their own lives to help the others. Lip did so much and sacrificed a lot to get a degree AND care for everyone, same, if not more for Fiona, so I guess it’s normal to act irresponsibly or immaturely.
An amazing show about a dysfunctional family that no matter what loved and had each other's backs even when they didn't know what the heck they were doing
Maturing is realizing wow Fiona was wrong for the Liam situation with the cocaine. But these kids took advantage of all she had done for them her entire life since she was a kid herself and the few times she genuinely messed up her the hardest time for forgiveness. Then every time these kids messed up she forgave them and, the harder she started to get on them. They were genuinely shocked as if they weren’t getting older and it was becoming welcome to the real world. Cause we also see plenty of times in this where lip messed up significantly, but who’s hard on lip even Fiona was like dude just calm down. Just get it together. I’m not gonna blame it on lip being a man but lip was ready to throw Fiona out of the house remove Fiona from his life , remove Fiona from the family. The kids from her. He was doing a lot more drastic things because he held more of a grudge on her actions.
The best thing is that the Gallager children went to social services, it is obvious that Fiona was very dysfunctional (although she always said that thanks to her everyone got ahead), she almost killed Liam, she was a terrible example for Debbie with her bitch attitude, And so I can continue, Fiona is a fraud, she boasted about her success but the house that she presumed was in her name was thanks to Carl's drug money, she got her laundry business taking advantage of an old woman's Alzheimer's and I can go on, Enough of glorifying Fiona as a feisty woman who brought her brothers up, I think they had a better chance without her getting in the way.
They never did right by liam, this show is a fine example of why the foster system is absolutely necessary. That baby did not deserve the life he got. Manipulative, narcissistic sisters, reckless, selfish brothers and deadbeat loser parents that let him almost die on regular occasions. But god i love this show
This show is not about fault to be pointed at 1 or 2 people its about the struggle of growing up in a tough environment that u didnt choose.. dont waste time thinking about whos at fault the person at fault is the system that created families like this by arresting their parents and their grandparents all for trying to survive.. the aftermath is the show and its very real most people juat dont have to live it...
"Arresting parents and grandparents for trying to survive," what? Since when does a person go to jail for going to work. Piss poor choices are the fault of those that make them. Sure, life's hard. Harder for some than others but if you're getting arrested, that's on you, not some shadow entity called "The system." Actions have consequences and the worst part of the world today is nobody has any accountability, it's always someones fault, never theirs.
You know who was at fault, evryone because everyone made in ocassions por desicions but if theres someone at fault its their parents because they were the adults, they were responsible for their children. The system is the family thats whats f&*ked up
@@griffisjm it ain’t easy to break the cycle friend. I don’t understand why people think there’s an objective answer to anything in life. “ oh I was born poor? Guess I’ll just get good grades and go to a good school with no adversity ever in my life! “ What if your folks are gonna go homeless (and by extension you) if you don’t work instead of going to class? This rabbit hole never ends, it isn’t as easy as “ oh just get a job duh “ as if that will do anything more than let most people afford a shitty apartment in this age.
It pisses me off at all the comments I read about how it's Fiona's fault. She didn't go out to score coke. The brother of her boyfriend kept harassing her and trying to seduce her with the coke and left it there. At THAT point SHE should've thrown it away, in spite of all the circumstances she should've thrown it away. But idk if my memory serves me right if alot was happening at the time for her to notice or what. But still she was catching A LOT of flak when she really WAS busting her ass to make things work. Even if what the other Gallaghers wanted interfered with how she was building for them.
thats just.... no. just no. that just completely disrespects every person ever who has life just as hard and managed to not almost kill a child out of neglect and irresponsibility. at the end of the day, she shouldn't have been raising those kids. she wasn't responsible enough, period. and she knew it.
It IS Fiona's fault. Just because she worked hard and cared about her family doesn't absolve her of the choice she had to throw a coke party with kids in the house. Her brother nearly died because of her negligence.
Frank yelling at god after his liver transplant will always be one of my favorite Shameless Scenes, brought me to tears. The music, the cinematography and the acting was superb.
people forget that no one forced her to do it. no one forced her to take legal custody of her siblings. no one forced her to raise them. she made that decision. and she has to live with the consequences. that's how life works. nothing about her having issues in life excuses the bad decisions she made.
The best thing is that the Gallager children went to social services, it is obvious that Fiona was very dysfunctional (although she always said that thanks to her everyone got ahead), she almost killed Liam, she was a terrible example for Debbie with her bitch attitude, And so I can continue, Fiona is a fraud, she boasted about her success but the house that she presumed was in her name was thanks to Carl's drug money, she got her laundry business taking advantage of an old woman's Alzheimer's and I can go on, Enough of glorifying Fiona as a feisty woman who brought her brothers up, I think they had a better chance without her getting in the way.
@@rexytheservicedog So it would have been better for her to leave them with... who, exactly? Frank??? Monica??? Fostering, if they even get a place somewhere and aren't left in a fucking orphanage? She did what she can. It wasn't enough, but it was better than what could have been. I don't see how just leaving them, with no financial or emotional support, could have been better in any way.
@@ДмитрийВетровский she had 2 options. 1) choose not to take legal responsibility of her siblings and leave them in foster care. Was it an amazing option? No. But that was 1 of 2 options that she had. She could have somewhat moved on with her life and had the freedom to live her life the way she wanted to. 2) choose to sacrifice the next several years of her life by taking legal responsibility (that means the physical, emotional and financial care) of children, also sacrificing her ability to live her life the way she wanted while understanding that every day of her life, until the day the last child legally became an adult, she would have to put their needs first. She apparently decided to make up her own magical option where she could somehow take legal responsibility and then just do whatever it is she wanted, and then make constant excuses her behavior and lack of both maturity and responsibility.
6:51 - wait a minute…lip is mad at fiona for drinking with someone she DID NOT KNOW was an alcoholic? lip is one of the most self-righteous fuck ups of all time…
@WhippedforMinho No, he's mad because his SPONSEE is the reason he relapsed on drugs. He just doesn't wanna admit that because his fragile ego would end up internalizing it & unnecessarily feeling like it's *his* fault and that he "failed" his sponsee when ultimately, his sponsee failed *himself*.
@@Essenceofblood5238 no. His is mad because FIONA caused his Sponsee to relapse cause YES. SHE WAS THE SOLE REASON. Lip was in the right to yell at her because it was her fault and like he said SHE DIDN'T CARE TO KNOW
@@WhippedforMinho I don't understand why you feel the need to defend Lip so much, he's probably one of the worst Gallaghers. Fiona was going through a lot mentally and was also spiraling down to a path of alcoholism and his brother instead of trying to help and ubderstand her, he just yells at her and blames her everytime she's in a bad situation and never even think to considerate how much of her life she sacrificed for her family and even him.
@alejandroalvarado3409 the worst gallagher is Fiona. Lip took care of the others just as much as she did and he didn't do more than half the messed up sh*t she did
When Fiona was getting Drunk Lip was so out of pocket. He finally started seeing what Fiona had been going through and couldn't handle it. Her whole life has been about them so sue her if she wants to relax a little shes young too
I mean alot of the times ok people and fiona fans in general need to understand this so when lip yelled at fiona to leave the house was caring for her and plus she was doing things andgoing crazy in the house so lip was saying leave to go find yourself and calm the f down basically
um sorry but no. when you take legal responsibility for a bunch of kids, you don't get to "relax" and "be young". you have to sacrifice your happiness and what you want for the kids. that's how being a parent/guardian works. that's called responsibility.
Yeah, I feel people tend to forget that he was also a trainwreck? Like yeah, Fiona isn't this stand up citizen and her actions shouldn't be glossed over, but who the fuck is glossing over it? It wasn't just him giving her a hard time too. Debbie loved to shit down her throat any chance she got when neither one of them have ROOM TO TALK. YES, it was her coke, she left it out. It was horrible. Not excusable in the slightest. Doesn't mean Lip or any other character should have it easier. What really pisses me off about Lip is acting as if he's the only one holding it all together when it was in fact Fiona, Debbie (when she was younger at least), and even Carl. But damn, she sacrificed so much for them and this is the thanks she gets? Not even trying to relate to the other, talk it out, and find the solution? Nope. I'm just going to scream and push you around because that's going to solve things. For someone who could've had a better life and was a fuckin' genius, he sure fucked up his life quickly. And blaming her for his sponsee getting drunk is just braindead and idiotic. smh You just said in an earlier scene/episode to her friend after she said she brought the vodka while the dinner was burning, "You didn't pour it down her throat." So the same shit applies to the sponsee. It was HIS CHOICE. FIONA DIDN'T KNOW. Like shut the fuck up? 💀
what the f is wrong with you people? DRUGS WERE THERE IN THE HOUSE FILLED KIDS. THE WOMAN WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THEM IS JUST TAKING DRUGS IN THE HOUSE RIGHT ON THEIR EYES
The best thing is that the Gallager children went to social services, it is obvious that Fiona was very dysfunctional (although she always said that thanks to her everyone got ahead), she almost killed Liam, she was a terrible example for Debbie with her bitch attitude, And so I can continue, Fiona is a fraud, she boasted about her success but the house that she presumed was in her name was thanks to Carl's drug money, she got her laundry business taking advantage of an old woman's Alzheimer's and I can go on, Enough of glorifying Fiona as a feisty woman who brought her brothers up, I think they had a better chance without her getting in the way.
People forget that Fiona wanted to look after the kids. She literally went to court and the judge said to her this is the biggest responsibility you’ll ever have. And she fumbled it
After watching shameless I see why the fella that plays Ian got the roll in a video game of one of the biggest franchises of all time. His voicing in Star Wars was top class
It’s always so romantic to watch fictional characters live life, but when you’re living around it or in it it’s not so sweet or fun, it’s drama chaos and sadness
The only people who truly understand this show has live with addicts and alcoholics as the leaders of the family amyone else assumes iits exaggerated but its not.. its reality for way too many people in our country
Growing up is realizing that while Fiona was a lot better than Frank or Monica, and did a lot for the kids to help them thrive, the moment Liam ate coke and almost died was the moment Lip had every right to call her out… Just like when she called out Frank for Ian’s fever. Was she better? Yes, but that is not a far stretch and Liam almost died. At that point, she became a hypocrite. Lip was not ungrateful. He was rightfully angry. I don’t get how people don’t see this. She should not have had to do it, but when she said she would care for them, she took on the responsibility to not f up like Frank.
Exactly, she accepted the responsibility for raising them and legally became Liam’s guardian. Lip was an asshole to her but everything he said was still true even if he was being a hypocrite at times
Also she CHOSE to adopt the kids and be their guardian even when the judge tried to talk her out of it. As soon as she made that choice her life came second to the kids 🤷♀️
Growing up is knowing that most of the people who watch this show which is alot especially in america disagree with you and thinks you're dumb and me too .
@@ttvtwiggzz no, she didn’t open his mouth and force the bottle down his throat, alcoholics in recovery need to take responsibility for their actions, she didn’t know he was sober and he didn’t tell her, it’s his own fault goofy
I always thought it was so ridiculous how upset Lip got over his sponsee's sobriety. Like it's Fiona's responsibility to monitor the status of strangers and their levels of addition. Like I get why he was so upset about most things, and that he's just kinda dramatic towards Fiona in general, but c'mon dude.
@altheadraghici1602 it was because at that point she finally realized he cared about no one but himself. She tried so hard to get him to love her but he just doesn't
The thing with shameless is they’re all awful for their own reasons save for the younger ones. Liam and Carl didn’t deserve any of what they went through.
Cracks me up how so many people see characters written with honest character flaws and then say they were "the worst on the show" as if every character wasn't flawed in some horrible way, which was kind of the entire point of the show. They were all fucked up and made terrible mistakes. That's why the show is interesting and entertaining. Do people really want like, morally perfect characters in their TV dramas? Lmao
Crazy how i can relate to these characters. My family doesnt have the drug and alcohol abuse issue but, the disfunction is there. Being one of thebyoungest my siblings simply moved on and i became the head at 12. All the potential like lip and somehow excelled while working fulltime, the responsibility of fiona, the optism of carl as the officer and thebluck of all of them. Scaping the mental effects of poverty is extremely difficult. Like a shadow lurking over you...waiting. anyways, this show just got me thinking about my upbringing.
Such a great show with powerful moments. I never watched the show when it initially came out. But me and my girlfriend got into the show this year and just finished all seasons.
Lip is too hard on Fiona as if he hasn't made poor choices before, yes it was her fault that Liam got into the drugs but she owned up to it and was genuinely sorry. Fiona has carried her families burden since she was kid, she literally didn't have a childhood and the moment she decides to cut loose for one night she still gets yelled at. I can't imagine the pain she's gone through having to take the role of a parent at a young age. She deserved more
Pharmacy tech in training here, and I'm curious about something, not sure if anyone could answer. 0:25 Is there a reason for EMT's to give a toddler Ativan for cocaine ingestion?
The best thing is that the Gallager children went to social services, it is obvious that Fiona was very dysfunctional (although she always said that thanks to her everyone got ahead), she almost killed Liam, she was a terrible example for Debbie with her bitch attitude, And so I can continue, Fiona is a fraud, she boasted about her success but the house that she presumed was in her name was thanks to Carl's drug money, she got her laundry business taking advantage of an old woman's Alzheimer's and I can go on, Enough of glorifying Fiona as a feisty woman who brought her brothers up, I think they had a better chance without her getting in the way.
THAT COURT SCENE 😢😢😢 first time i saw it i was sobbing and i still can't watch it without crumbling. I'm sad her character couldn't come back cuz of COVID but Fiona deserved to go
Lip saying he wanted Fiona out of the house for “getting” the 100 days sober guy to abuse substances again irks me to no end. It’s at the end of the day his fault for using substances, his fault for not deleting his plug’s number altogether. He wasn’t committed to staying sober quite obviously, and that is in no way Fiona’s fault. She isn’t obligated to make sure someone isn’t trying to be sober to use drugs and offer it. I’m not saying her substance abuse is okay, but she wasn’t the one that shoved the drugs into the guy’s bloodstream. Lip wanting so badly to blame Fiona for something that genuinely isn’t her fault is just so annoying, he never really develops from this either. Always blaming others.
Thank the show for made the crule hard life in the funny version, so people who were in the similar situation can find some smile from their hardcore fuckup life.
8:37 as much as Fiona was fucking up around this time does have a point that lips sponsor deciding to relapse is not on her She didn't force him to do anything. He chose to. It's unfortunate and it's sad and it sucks that she did play a roll in it but it's not her fault
Something I realized watching this show, in the beginning they call Frank and Monica Mom and Dad until they finally accept who they truly are and have been
It's like Lip forgot that Fiona wasn't his mom. She is his sister and she had a life too. She gave up her life for those I grateful assholes. I am glad she left. She needed to find her own life. I hate watching these episodes because it's so upsetting watch her give everything away and still be treated like absolute shit.
Fiona basically made the show! She was def the foundation! Lip was wrong for blaming Fiona for everything n not giving her a CHANCE but she was all in for lip when he was dragging the bottle.
Naaa this was a tear jerker. Their mom slit wrist. Had an aunt who did that and OD on Fentanyl we found her in her home 3 days after it happened. Shit traumatized me for life.
That whole scene that starts at 15:23 was a very powerful moment ! I felt her pain ! U should have not cut the scene where she’s literary crying and then just sucks it up and starts cleaning the kitchen ! I knew that scene was going to be in here cuz I’ll never forget it ! It’s sad because Fiona especially has never had a break from suffering that she just brushes everything off and keeps pushing
People truly don't understand the willpower it takes to make it through another day without a drink. This show encapsulates addiction and what it does to everyone around you. It has been since 1991, and I still want a drink when things get bad. I just want to escape for a little while. Watching Frank....helps me keep the glass down.
Lip was so used to Fiona taking on all the responsibilities of the family he had no idea how heavy the burden was until she let just a fraction of it go , he crumbled
leaving cocaine out in front of a toddler is responsible?
@@Moncherelouis nah that's she letting go of things and soon as she did that everyone tumbled into shit.
I'm sorry fiona just has an ugly crying face
@@Annedrinkstea but what about cheating on your boyfriend with his brother is that really responsible now
@@RutherfordOrelusI mean all the kids were fed n had somewhere to sleep. Who cares if she sucked every dick she could loo
Fiona kicking the dryer after Monica stole the squirrel fund will always make me tear up and her inner child eyes when she said “I thought it would be different this time…” 😭😭😭
Ikr Emmy Rossum did an amazing job playing Fiona, then after she was done crying she got up and cleaned up the mess Monica made like she’s always done
Can't remember, what was the squirrel money fund for?
@@TheHongoneitor where everyone contributed their money to pay the bills/stash emergency money away
@@TawnyRoyal that's a different pool than the buying the house, right? Tx in advance
Omggg I literally just left a comment about this scene 😢 it’s so sad she can’t catch a break … she has to suck it up and carry on
Fiona never had anyone to lean on i was so happy when ian told her to live her life he really was the most damaged but still tried to help his big sister so sweet
The best thing is that the Gallager children went to social services, it is obvious that Fiona was very dysfunctional (although she always said that thanks to her everyone got ahead), she almost killed Liam, she was a terrible example for Debbie with her bitch attitude, And so I can continue, Fiona is a fraud, she boasted about her success but the house that she presumed was in her name was thanks to Carl's drug money, she got her laundry business taking advantage of an old woman's Alzheimer's and I can go on, Enough of glorifying Fiona as a feisty woman who brought her brothers up, I think they had a better chance without her getting in the way.
Ian was always the most grateful for Fiona throughout the whole show.
Jimmy ??? Def led her down for at least the first 3 season
Ian was definitely the most empathetic Gallagher
also carl he was the mvp if him in lip traded places
Maturing is realizing that Liam getting into the drugs WAS Fionas fault, but it’s also realizing that she made a mistake, a horrible one, that she was so sorry for that she learned from it and never made it again. Maturing is understanding she did wrong and forgiving her for it.
Yes, it was without a doubt her mistake. Matter of fact, she made a lot of big mistakes in a row.
But in context, Lip was wrong. Throughout the series, all characters made huge mistakes and she was the one that had their back no matter what. She was the one that held them all together, working several jobs, giving up her own life to allow them to have theirs.
But the first time the situation was reversed, lip didn't wait a second to put all the blame on her and offer no help at all. Debbie was exactly like this as well, especially at that episode that Fiona gets her a job interview.
@@bcs1793How is it fair to just blithely continue to make Lip carry the load because you're too interested in getting more screwed up?
Lol, relax it's just a show
@@AndreNDP She "carried the load" for their entire lives? Every time Lip made a mistake or wanted anything she gave up on whatever she was doing to help him?
The moment Fiona started putting herself first she got her life together, made a lot of money and . At the same time, Lip dropped out of school, became an alcoholic, and ended up frustrated at a regular job.
@@bcs1793 She chose that. And arguably made the wrong choice, because Debbie, Liam, and Ian all probably would've been better off in the system.
Lip did plenty for her too, he hustled as much as he could to support the team, so don't act like this was all on Fiona.
When Fiona listed all her siblings accomplishments to monica will forever make me teary
And when she got to Carl she was liked “Carl blew up Something!” 😂
"you're my mom too" hits so hard
When Lip was at his worst…Fiona helped, natured and loved him. When Fiona hit rock bottom, Lip judged, berated and condemned her.
Lip is just kind of a garbage person the whole series honestly. Ian is one of the only truly “good” characters
@@idkwhattohaveasausername5828lip is the best you sensitive fuck 😂
I mean she had it coming, it's tough love. Someone got tell her she's fucking up
Lip was the most ungrateful sack of sh t throughout the entire show. Fiona bent over backwards and sacrificed almost everything for that kid thru all his f k ups, but the moment she made a mistake he flipped on her and treated her like sh t.
@@idkwhattohaveasausername5828 ian’s shameless moments mostly involves him being bipolar which isn’t his fault. He’s easily the kindest sibling in the whole show.
Fiona was just a kid too she deserved a chance to study and date and make mistakes just like everyone else on the show
That’s what makes it sad this is usually what happens kids raising kids
I agree but her being a bad person and blaming everything she does on not having a real childhood is unexplainable at some point everyone in this show needed to stop acting like their actions dont have consequences. There is not a single good lesson in this show and anyone who tries to learn anyone morales from it is bound ro fail.
@damiondunn4663 She wasn't a bad person
her mistakes nearly killed a kid lmfao
She CHOSE to stick around 😒 She IS the glue and does keep everyone together, but it comes with a price 💰
I love the fact that 90% of these scenes involve Lip in some way.
😂😂😂
He’s the best Character besides Ian so it makes sense
@@suds9365 Lip is easily the worst character of the whole show, narcissistic, sneaky, selfish and egoistic. Always blaming everyone else for his failures but when he has the chance to do something well for himself he messes it up because he is "from the south side"
He blames fiona because her fucked up life ruines this so why should his life be ruined too, but he ruined it after this as well because he just simply is not as smart as he thought he was, he was just more intelligent than some of the people in his life and he thought being smart was just sitting and chilling and smoking and that he didn't have to do anything about it, but reality kicked in and he stayed in the hood because he wasn't successful for anywhere else. He was that loser to the point that he had to sell the house even though everyone else didn't wanted to sell it, but he had to because he was too broke to get his own place. He and Debbie had the worst endings and I'm glad because they were the worst characters
@Luka-sz3ej you just explained EVERY character at one point. Also, Debbie is easily the worst character 😂
@@Luka-sz3ejif u think lip was a worse character than debby ur mistaken lol she 2 things that are worse than what anyone did in the show in r*ping matty & trapping derrick into getting her pregnant… lip did nothing on a scale to those things
I will forever LOVE Fiona. People always seem to forget she was a child raising a bunch of kids who WEREN'T hers. Lip was self centered and didn't realize everything Fiona wasn't allowed to do BECAUSE she was taking care of them. Lip wanted to play the role of a hoodlum, he wanted to be a statistic. Yes fiona messed up at times, but at the same time, ALL of them did, but because you see her in this Role of a parent, no one ever cuts her slack forgetting she's only 2-3 years older than lip.
I relate to Fiona in so many ways
I hate when people compare Fiona to all of the others Gallaghers
Lip was a statistic. Self destructive. Depressed. Violent. Generational trauma.
It got to him.
The other kids tried one way or another. But as the oldest besides fionna he saw it all and it took him out
14:15 Fiona is in such shock she actually calls Frank Dad. That’s shit you only notice on rewatch
To be fair in Season 1 all of them called Frank dad except for Ian.
@@JoSheperdthat’s some crazy foreshadowing if it was intended
@@chrishansen8119lmaooo
Lip needs someone to always blame for his wrong doings and emotions it turned exhausting. Then when Fiona does something he sees as disgraceful he later does the same thing .
So lip blaming fiona for the coke incident and and yelling at younes when he was in prison weren't responsible and I don't completely hate fiona and lip isn't my favorite and both have faults that they should've justified and fiona would go crazy and blame everyone too so fionas not really the victim hear.
They ALL had problems. We can't point fingers... But it was exhausting. i agree.
Hilarious that you equate fiona as the victim here... sure she is a victim of parentification but that is all older siblings to an extent (I would know). Go rewatch liam ODing on her coke, then rewatch her dumbfounded expression as she's arrested (rightfully), then go to 2:44 and watch her and lip talk, then tell me once more with a straight face that lip is not justified in blaming her.
@@l3ftie578 no there's no reason for the face when she should know she was going to get arrested anyways and on a diffrent comment o this video both of them lip and fiona should be justified don't know why your defending a coke giver and a lier and a cheater though .
@@l3ftie578 bffr, have you watched the show entirely because I have like fifteen times. None of them are perfect and everyone makes mistakes. But when something good happens to Fiona for once, Lip shits on her parade.
the way in which lip could've graduated college, worked hard, and got out of this cyclical cycle always made me so upset, not really because he screwed up his chances (that's only half of it), but because everytime that fiona tried to do the SAME thing and messed up, he would berate her. and then the next time she'd try to get her life in check, he made it clear he had no faith in her. despite everything she did for him to get to college (again, just to mess up his best chance), he never acknowledged her sacrifice nor gave her grace for her struggles. absolutely the worst.
At the end why I love the bringing this show is Lip hates frank since day one….but literally turned out the most like him….All the smarts and intelligence in the world…but his addiction and pride got in the way and he fucked up all his chances….just like frank
He was not like Frank with his son
And the fact that Lip always thought Fiona was beneath him and could never make something out of herself.
Thats why its Ian and Fiona for me
I'm just now watching it and I can't stand him!! OMG makes me so mad. Remember when she sold the laudromat and made 75K and he was so jealous and ugly about it???
“I thought she’d be different.”
“Well, how’d that kool-aid taste going down?”
Always puts tears in my eyes.
why?
Because it’s a reference to how people in Jonestown drank Kool-Aid with poison.
nobody is talking abt how well jimmy-steve handled the monica situation on thanksgiving… yes he turns out to be a horrible person😭😭 but i appreciate how he didnt freak tf out and immediately went to helping her while everyone grasped what they just saw
He was supposed to be in medical school
At 15:41 when Fiona rages on the washing machine due to Monica Monica-ing again, the frame is wide and includes the corner where Monica will later harm herself and shortly thereafter depart our realm. Notice how clean that whole space is, then notice its the only clean location in the whole room. Massive foreshadow. Something dreadful is coming and its place is set.
That scene hit hard. Fiona in the pant/suit being independent and letting go of the responsibility of the house to monica but it drags her back.
What episode is this ?
that is so good wth
Lip had zero excuse for ever throwing fiona's drinking in her face. Ever.
This show died when fiona left.
Good thing she left at the very end so the show didn't ever "die" 😂
@@creepycanadatrev what? She left way before the end..
Lmao Fiona hands down was one of the worst characters. The show got better when she left
@@WhippedforMinhoLip was the worst character in the show, he had a god complex and looked at everyone as they were beneath him, always needed someone to blame. While Fiona was parentified from a young age and lost her all childhood because she had to watch her siblings, but when she wanted to spend some time in herself all hell break lose and Lip had to do what she was doing almost her whole life and he broke down into alcoholism. Sad she left the show but it was better for her to leave that hellhole. I don't understand Lip riders like you, either you haven't watched the show, are completely delusional or just circle around the cocain scene from S4
@@SadistiCoffee excuse me. She cheated on her husband, slept with another womans husband. Took money from the old woman living above the laundry mat she bought. Caused lip's sponsee to relapse. And abandoned them basically after getting guardianship and she never took accountability and always played the victim. She was the worst character and was completely selfish. Y'all saying Lip had a god complex are completely wrong.
Fiona fucked up a lot but Lip was way out of line blaming her for Jason drinking. He was the one that said the line "did she pour the vodka in your mouth?" earlier on. So he knows it's always the person's choice to drink.
Sounds like you have a lot of addictions that you have personal experience with. Oh, you don't? 'Kay cool STFU then ❤
@@jimmyjon9970Sounds like you do? o wait you dont? Then stfu also ❤
It wasn't her fault that he started drinking again, it was his choice to drink
@@SadistiCoffee that was exactly the same point they made dumbass
Agreed. He pissed me off so hard especially for kicking her out. Like Jason literally said it wasn’t her fault because he wanted to drink himself
Exactly, he knows that no one forced them to drink. When Fiona did it, she blamed her for drinking; when someone else drank, he blamed Fiona for "showing" him the drink???? Make it make sense. That fella is definitely fighting as one of the shittiest and most ungrateful sibling. Him and Debbie are insane.
Always pissed me off that Fiona helped lip off his feet when he was an alcoholic but lip wanted to kick Fiona out when she was struggling. They could never make me like Lip.
You forget that Fiona kicked lip out of the house when he got expelled from school? Lip treated Fiona how she treated him
@@mtk1808 she did that as a necessary punishment as he got himself expelled on purpose, later leaving on his own because he stubbornly refused to go back to school. She did it because she actually cared, he did it because he has a serious ego problem.
@Cardboardwater Fiona almost killed their little bother, what's worse dropping out of school or almost killing someone?
@@mcrose9067 he didn’t kick Fiona out under the context of coke he kicked her out because she was drunk and falling apart mentally. She went to jail and paid for crimes, and the family grew to understand her. You are making a false equivalency.
@Cardboardwater why was she drunk and stuck in the house again? Oh yeah because she almost killed Liam with coke. If she had never almost killed Liam would lip have killed her out because she got drunk? It seems to me that the almost killing Liam is the part that had him upset and her irresponsible behavior is just what set him off.
The scenes of Ian when they first found out about the bipolar. Powerful scenes.
Oh and Fiona putting Monica in her place!
Monica's attempt too 😭
Just to be clear Fiona did Not fail her family she was the older sister Not the mother she did way more than what she could and she shouldn’t be blamed for anything nothing is her fault she did what she could with what she had
Yeah shes just a kid herself taking care of all of them (especially early seasons) but people don't automatically think that or keep it in mind bc she looks/acts mature. Of course anyone would lose it eventually.
She definitely can be blamed for at least specifically the Liam coke thing lol
The best thing is that the Gallager children went to social services, it is obvious that Fiona was very dysfunctional (although she always said that thanks to her everyone got ahead), she almost killed Liam, she was a terrible example for Debbie with her bitch attitude, And so I can continue, Fiona is a fraud, she boasted about her success but the house that she presumed was in her name was thanks to Carl's drug money, she got her laundry business taking advantage of an old woman's Alzheimer's and I can go on, Enough of glorifying Fiona as a feisty woman who brought her brothers up, I think they had a better chance without her getting in the way.
@kingdee4785 There were other adults there right? Yes, she was the responsible adult for the household... If you call a young woman, older sister a "responsible adult". All the other adults there were almost responsible for what happened to him.
@@seachelb7245 did they leave out the coke? no.
Her face when she’s getting arrested is priceless
That’s the whole point. In a dysfunctional family, the kids end up turning on each other, playing out all the toxic stuff they’ve witnessed and experienced. It’s extra unfortunate.
“YOUR FUCKED UP LIFE” woah stop there ✋🏾. If she didn’t choose to take u in then u would’ve been in a worse lifetime. Always hated when they kept blaming Fiona. Then Lip yelling at Fiona for having his sponsor relapse…..how is she supposed to know. If he is around alcohol, that was his decision. Fiona wasn’t all sunshine n rainbows but there was a few times where Fiona genuinely was trying her best. Such an upsetting, real life scenario show.
Don't try to justify the fact she's the worst character
He might of got a better foster family..
@@WhippedforMinho The worst character is debbie and lip.
@@hannathatsme9086 lmaooooo. Lip in NO WAY is worse than Fiona
@@WhippedforMinho You must be kidding
I understand the Fiona/Lip relationship. Always some sort of discord bc of the dynamic in our family. Plus him being the older boy and me being the older girl. As hard as I tried I was never good enough for my family or him, I was the scapegoat and he was the golden child. His bare minimum was always enough, my all was always never noticed. His mess ups were always understood (even by me) and I was always crucified.
lip was always so unfair to fiona, of course she royally fucked up but she learnt from it and never made the same mistake, he just kept throwing it to her face and being highly disrespectful and acting like everyone else is wrong but him. truly one of the characters i hate the most, after debby
Wtf
Yeah me too after all the other characters, off course.
So you also hate lip man I thought the people defending tami was worse plus who dosent like lip
Everybody hates Debbie lmao
@@TheHolySacred-Cow
Is that a reaction to ur username? If so,i agree
This show is fantastic because you hate and love each and every character at some point.
I never hated Fiona (the Liam incident was infuriating but I understand just how easily bad choices can lead quickly to consequences) but gd I hated the way they started writing her just before and moving forward from that incident. It felt less like her character being complex and more like the writers wanted to destroy her character.
@@youniqesparklez yeah, I also think that plays into the consequences of being an addict(s) daughter. She didn’t know life without chaos so when it started going well, should would self destruct so she had something fix, so someone needed her. She wanted to be alone but she didn’t know how without her family, no matter how crazy they made her, she loved being needed and loved the chaos. I do agree they wrote her into a lot of situations tho 😂 but I think this writing did showcase the feeling of being addicted to cortisol - the hormone we produce when we are stressed
People keep talking about Fiona leaving the cocaine out for Liam to get(which I agree it was her fault because why leave cocaine out on the counter in general when you know you have children in the house), but one of the episodes that pissed me off the most in the show is when Lip kept blaming her for stufg that was completely out of her control.
1. When DCFS came. Lip never even mentioned that they were coming to Fiona and got mad when the inspection failed.
2. That very same episode, he blamed her for Jason drinking again when he never told her that he was a sponser, that he had a sponsee, and that Jason was that sponsee. She didn't even know the guy and it was her first time meeting him.
"And Carl...made something blow up for his science fair."
When Veronica brought the vodka and Fiona got drunk, Lip said did you pour it down her throat? When his sponsee relapses and dies, it’s Fiona’s fault. Lip needs everything to be Fiona’s fault.
i do notice this while rewatching clips that i didn’t notice on my first watch. this shit is so fucked.
Umm he didn’t die, he just relapsed. Lip showed him how to change a filter in a later episode.
@@AwesomeSauce-ex3okthe point still remains the same.
😂 the problem wasn’t just that she got him drunk it was that she was an Alcoholic who was spiraling down a bad path and showed 0 signs of changing. When he told her what she did she barely cared at all which is crazy.
She was actively putting them at risk so he kicked her out that makes sense.
@@jinmali she was spiraling, and supporting her spiral would’ve only helped her self destruct. Kicking her out was the right thing. The right thing for Lip, the kids, and for Fiona. If not for that she would’ve ended up like Frank.
That being said, it wasn’t her fault the guy broke his sobriety. She didn’t know who he was. She had no idea he was a sponsee. She didn’t even offer it to him. He literally asked for it.
HER alcoholism was an entirely different issue. One that needed to be dealt with.
I always love how relatable the characters were. I always found I related to Lip the most. Being forced to take charge so early, the anger, resentment and frustration towards the world. Nobody in this show is perfect but the flaws they have are what shape them. They all handle things differently.
Is it just me or is lip always blaming other people for his problems
@dannim8706 he was my least favorite, always shouting at Fiona and acting ungrateful to her
@@marianafeliciano6601yes, but the real fault was the parents’, like obviously teens or tweens are going to be extremely immature about how to create a life for the younger ones, Fiona and Lip barely got to mess up and enjoy their own lives to help the others. Lip did so much and sacrificed a lot to get a degree AND care for everyone, same, if not more for Fiona, so I guess it’s normal to act irresponsibly or immaturely.
he really didn’t appreciate Fiona and it shows.
Yeah that s why I hate him.
Just you.
An amazing show about a dysfunctional family that no matter what loved and had each other's backs even when they didn't know what the heck they were doing
Maturing is realizing wow Fiona was wrong for the Liam situation with the cocaine. But these kids took advantage of all she had done for them her entire life since she was a kid herself and the few times she genuinely messed up her the hardest time for forgiveness. Then every time these kids messed up she forgave them and, the harder she started to get on them. They were genuinely shocked as if they weren’t getting older and it was becoming welcome to the real world.
Cause we also see plenty of times in this where lip messed up significantly, but who’s hard on lip even Fiona was like dude just calm down. Just get it together. I’m not gonna blame it on lip being a man but lip was ready to throw Fiona out of the house remove Fiona from his life , remove Fiona from the family. The kids from her. He was doing a lot more drastic things because he held more of a grudge on her actions.
The best thing is that the Gallager children went to social services, it is obvious that Fiona was very dysfunctional (although she always said that thanks to her everyone got ahead), she almost killed Liam, she was a terrible example for Debbie with her bitch attitude, And so I can continue, Fiona is a fraud, she boasted about her success but the house that she presumed was in her name was thanks to Carl's drug money, she got her laundry business taking advantage of an old woman's Alzheimer's and I can go on, Enough of glorifying Fiona as a feisty woman who brought her brothers up, I think they had a better chance without her getting in the way.
They never did right by liam, this show is a fine example of why the foster system is absolutely necessary. That baby did not deserve the life he got. Manipulative, narcissistic sisters, reckless, selfish brothers and deadbeat loser parents that let him almost die on regular occasions. But god i love this show
The foster system ABSOLUTELY is necessary but it just sucks how awful it can be for the kids who have to go through it.
@@danilochavarria7348
Yeah,the abuse and sa that goes in it ,even unaliving is scary
None of them deserved it
Yeah it may be necessary yet his life would more than likely have been just as bad.
@@griffisjm I disagree with that, at least from the show's point of view. He would've been happy with that gay couple.
This show is not about fault to be pointed at 1 or 2 people its about the struggle of growing up in a tough environment that u didnt choose.. dont waste time thinking about whos at fault the person at fault is the system that created families like this by arresting their parents and their grandparents all for trying to survive.. the aftermath is the show and its very real most people juat dont have to live it...
❤FACTZ
"Arresting parents and grandparents for trying to survive," what? Since when does a person go to jail for going to work. Piss poor choices are the fault of those that make them. Sure, life's hard. Harder for some than others but if you're getting arrested, that's on you, not some shadow entity called "The system." Actions have consequences and the worst part of the world today is nobody has any accountability, it's always someones fault, never theirs.
You know who was at fault, evryone because everyone made in ocassions por desicions but if theres someone at fault its their parents because they were the adults, they were responsible for their children. The system is the family thats whats f&*ked up
@@griffisjm it ain’t easy to break the cycle friend.
I don’t understand why people think there’s an objective answer to anything in life.
“ oh I was born poor? Guess I’ll just get good grades and go to a good school with no adversity ever in my life! “
What if your folks are gonna go homeless (and by extension you) if you don’t work instead of going to class?
This rabbit hole never ends, it isn’t as easy as “ oh just get a job duh “ as if that will do anything more than let most people afford a shitty apartment in this age.
I gotta watch this show again. It's been too long. Every actor in this show was phenomenal
It pisses me off at all the comments I read about how it's Fiona's fault.
She didn't go out to score coke. The brother of her boyfriend kept harassing her and trying to seduce her with the coke and left it there. At THAT point SHE should've thrown it away, in spite of all the circumstances she should've thrown it away. But idk if my memory serves me right if alot was happening at the time for her to notice or what. But still she was catching A LOT of flak when she really WAS busting her ass to make things work. Even if what the other Gallaghers wanted interfered with how she was building for them.
thats just.... no. just no. that just completely disrespects every person ever who has life just as hard and managed to not almost kill a child out of neglect and irresponsibility. at the end of the day, she shouldn't have been raising those kids. she wasn't responsible enough, period. and she knew it.
Literally every comment is defending her.
It IS Fiona's fault. Just because she worked hard and cared about her family doesn't absolve her of the choice she had to throw a coke party with kids in the house. Her brother nearly died because of her negligence.
Frank yelling at god after his liver transplant will always be one of my favorite Shameless Scenes, brought me to tears. The music, the cinematography and the acting was superb.
People forget that Fiona fucked up her life for her siblings and they’ll never be grateful
Ian was grateful
people forget that no one forced her to do it. no one forced her to take legal custody of her siblings. no one forced her to raise them. she made that decision. and she has to live with the consequences. that's how life works. nothing about her having issues in life excuses the bad decisions she made.
The best thing is that the Gallager children went to social services, it is obvious that Fiona was very dysfunctional (although she always said that thanks to her everyone got ahead), she almost killed Liam, she was a terrible example for Debbie with her bitch attitude, And so I can continue, Fiona is a fraud, she boasted about her success but the house that she presumed was in her name was thanks to Carl's drug money, she got her laundry business taking advantage of an old woman's Alzheimer's and I can go on, Enough of glorifying Fiona as a feisty woman who brought her brothers up, I think they had a better chance without her getting in the way.
@@rexytheservicedog So it would have been better for her to leave them with... who, exactly? Frank??? Monica??? Fostering, if they even get a place somewhere and aren't left in a fucking orphanage? She did what she can. It wasn't enough, but it was better than what could have been. I don't see how just leaving them, with no financial or emotional support, could have been better in any way.
@@ДмитрийВетровский she had 2 options. 1) choose not to take legal responsibility of her siblings and leave them in foster care. Was it an amazing option? No. But that was 1 of 2 options that she had. She could have somewhat moved on with her life and had the freedom to live her life the way she wanted to. 2) choose to sacrifice the next several years of her life by taking legal responsibility (that means the physical, emotional and financial care) of children, also sacrificing her ability to live her life the way she wanted while understanding that every day of her life, until the day the last child legally became an adult, she would have to put their needs first. She apparently decided to make up her own magical option where she could somehow take legal responsibility and then just do whatever it is she wanted, and then make constant excuses her behavior and lack of both maturity and responsibility.
Jeremy’s such a good actor. Good lordddd
I’m amazed that Fiona didn’t burn the Gallagher house down with all of them in it.
6:51 - wait a minute…lip is mad at fiona for drinking with someone she DID NOT KNOW was an alcoholic? lip is one of the most self-righteous fuck ups of all time…
No he is mad because she is the reason his sponsee relapsed on drugs
@WhippedforMinho No, he's mad because his SPONSEE is the reason he relapsed on drugs. He just doesn't wanna admit that because his fragile ego would end up internalizing it & unnecessarily feeling like it's *his* fault and that he "failed" his sponsee when ultimately, his sponsee failed *himself*.
@@Essenceofblood5238 no. His is mad because FIONA caused his Sponsee to relapse cause YES. SHE WAS THE SOLE REASON. Lip was in the right to yell at her because it was her fault and like he said SHE DIDN'T CARE TO KNOW
@@WhippedforMinho I don't understand why you feel the need to defend Lip so much, he's probably one of the worst Gallaghers. Fiona was going through a lot mentally and was also spiraling down to a path of alcoholism and his brother instead of trying to help and ubderstand her, he just yells at her and blames her everytime she's in a bad situation and never even think to considerate how much of her life she sacrificed for her family and even him.
@alejandroalvarado3409 the worst gallagher is Fiona. Lip took care of the others just as much as she did and he didn't do more than half the messed up sh*t she did
“You were my mother too!” Always breaks my fucking heart 😢
Fiona, I’ll never hate you😢😢😢😢
i never thought i could cry for 18 mins straight but thanks for proving me wrong
When Fiona was getting Drunk Lip was so out of pocket. He finally started seeing what Fiona had been going through and couldn't handle it. Her whole life has been about them so sue her if she wants to relax a little shes young too
I mean alot of the times ok people and fiona fans in general need to understand this so when lip yelled at fiona to leave the house was caring for her and plus she was doing things andgoing crazy in the house so lip was saying leave to go find yourself and calm the f down basically
@@RutherfordOrelusyupp don't burn my house down .
um sorry but no. when you take legal responsibility for a bunch of kids, you don't get to "relax" and "be young". you have to sacrifice your happiness and what you want for the kids. that's how being a parent/guardian works. that's called responsibility.
Is it just me or are Emmy, Jeremy, and Cameron a powerhouse of an amazing cast!
I HATED how lip took out all his issues and mistakes out on Fiona. I feel like she was his outlet for his rage. And she didn't deserve it.
Fiona messed up with Liam and lip held it against her even though it was a accident. And Fiona was depressed and nobody coukd see it.
Lip had every right to yell at fiona and fiona accepted talking about the scene after the coke incident
Yeah, I feel people tend to forget that he was also a trainwreck? Like yeah, Fiona isn't this stand up citizen and her actions shouldn't be glossed over, but who the fuck is glossing over it? It wasn't just him giving her a hard time too. Debbie loved to shit down her throat any chance she got when neither one of them have ROOM TO TALK. YES, it was her coke, she left it out. It was horrible. Not excusable in the slightest. Doesn't mean Lip or any other character should have it easier.
What really pisses me off about Lip is acting as if he's the only one holding it all together when it was in fact Fiona, Debbie (when she was younger at least), and even Carl. But damn, she sacrificed so much for them and this is the thanks she gets? Not even trying to relate to the other, talk it out, and find the solution? Nope. I'm just going to scream and push you around because that's going to solve things. For someone who could've had a better life and was a fuckin' genius, he sure fucked up his life quickly.
And blaming her for his sponsee getting drunk is just braindead and idiotic. smh You just said in an earlier scene/episode to her friend after she said she brought the vodka while the dinner was burning, "You didn't pour it down her throat." So the same shit applies to the sponsee. It was HIS CHOICE. FIONA DIDN'T KNOW. Like shut the fuck up? 💀
what the f is wrong with you people? DRUGS WERE THERE IN THE HOUSE FILLED KIDS. THE WOMAN WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THEM IS JUST TAKING DRUGS IN THE HOUSE RIGHT ON THEIR EYES
The best thing is that the Gallager children went to social services, it is obvious that Fiona was very dysfunctional (although she always said that thanks to her everyone got ahead), she almost killed Liam, she was a terrible example for Debbie with her bitch attitude, And so I can continue, Fiona is a fraud, she boasted about her success but the house that she presumed was in her name was thanks to Carl's drug money, she got her laundry business taking advantage of an old woman's Alzheimer's and I can go on, Enough of glorifying Fiona as a feisty woman who brought her brothers up, I think they had a better chance without her getting in the way.
People forget that Fiona wanted to look after the kids. She literally went to court and the judge said to her this is the biggest responsibility you’ll ever have. And she fumbled it
After watching shameless I see why the fella that plays Ian got the roll in a video game of one of the biggest franchises of all time. His voicing in Star Wars was top class
Dude shameless makes me bawl but it has my heart.
that punch debbie threw I think frank took more personally than anything else
I’m sad the didn’t show the part where she beat him with a pillow case of soap bars. I remember just being like 😮!.
It’s always so romantic to watch fictional characters live life, but when you’re living around it or in it it’s not so sweet or fun, it’s drama chaos and sadness
Was Emmy ever nominated for an award?
The only people who truly understand this show has live with addicts and alcoholics as the leaders of the family amyone else assumes iits exaggerated but its not.. its reality for way too many people in our country
fiona suffered from a severe case of “i sacrificed so much for you so im never at fault”
No it's more like she has sacrificed so much, she deserves to be cut some slack.
@@easilysaidyeah she nearly killed her two year old brother with a cocaine overdose.
@@Moncherelouis well am sorry I missed that part ig ..taking my words back..
She was right.
When you make all of the extreme sacrifices when no one else would, you deserve to have all of the effing slack in the universe.....I should know.
Growing up is realizing that while Fiona was a lot better than Frank or Monica, and did a lot for the kids to help them thrive, the moment Liam ate coke and almost died was the moment Lip had every right to call her out…
Just like when she called out Frank for Ian’s fever.
Was she better? Yes, but that is not a far stretch and Liam almost died. At that point, she became a hypocrite. Lip was not ungrateful. He was rightfully angry.
I don’t get how people don’t see this. She should not have had to do it, but when she said she would care for them, she took on the responsibility to not f up like Frank.
Exactly, she accepted the responsibility for raising them and legally became Liam’s guardian. Lip was an asshole to her but everything he said was still true even if he was being a hypocrite at times
You explain that so well like so well no first No lastname
@@danilochavarria7348 what's with yall saying lip a an ahole when he was right to be mad at and fiona knew that aswell ngl .
She was 9yrs old. No 9yr old says hey sign me up!!!! SMH
Also she CHOSE to adopt the kids and be their guardian even when the judge tried to talk her out of it. As soon as she made that choice her life came second to the kids 🤷♀️
2:59 good god lip screams like an actual dad
growing up is realizing lip was a bad person
Growing up is knowing that most of the people who watch this show which is alot especially in america disagree with you and thinks you're dumb and me too .
nahhh, he was justified sometimes but the only way he wouldve been able to understand is if he put on fionas shoes
He sucked
lip definitely isn't and was never perfect but he is by no means a bad person
Fiona was worse
how is the prison scene where mickey asks ian if he will wait for him not in this
Real af
This show had me constantly crying
“Fuckin lie if you have to” always kills me
lip was such a prick blaming Fiona for his sponsee getting drunk
it was her fault goofy
@@ttvtwiggzz no, she didn’t open his mouth and force the bottle down his throat, alcoholics in recovery need to take responsibility for their actions, she didn’t know he was sober and he didn’t tell her, it’s his own fault goofy
Jason literally could’ve said “hey I’m actually sober now” but he didn’t he chose to participate
correct af.
Not because of the alcohol, it was because of her that his sponsee ended up relapsing on drugs. That's what he was mad about
I always thought it was so ridiculous how upset Lip got over his sponsee's sobriety. Like it's Fiona's responsibility to monitor the status of strangers and their levels of addition. Like I get why he was so upset about most things, and that he's just kinda dramatic towards Fiona in general, but c'mon dude.
I genuinely can’t believe I watched this show with my parents (and I mean every episode) from like 15 yrs old
Debbie tried so hard to love Frank no matter how much everyone else hates him. When she slapped him she finally gave up on him.
I think it was when he broke her popsicle stick house
@altheadraghici1602 it was because at that point she finally realized he cared about no one but himself. She tried so hard to get him to love her but he just doesn't
The thing with shameless is they’re all awful for their own reasons save for the younger ones. Liam and Carl didn’t deserve any of what they went through.
Liam and Carl were hands down the best characters throughout the whole series. They definitely deserved better.
They were able to be better thanks to the sacrifices of their older siblings
@SCS89 😂😂🤣🤣🤣
Nah, the youngers ones don't get any kind of exemption. They ALL turned out awful for their own reasons. Your post should've ended there. Period.
Cracks me up how so many people see characters written with honest character flaws and then say they were "the worst on the show" as if every character wasn't flawed in some horrible way, which was kind of the entire point of the show. They were all fucked up and made terrible mistakes. That's why the show is interesting and entertaining. Do people really want like, morally perfect characters in their TV dramas? Lmao
Crazy how i can relate to these characters. My family doesnt have the drug and alcohol abuse issue but, the disfunction is there. Being one of thebyoungest my siblings simply moved on and i became the head at 12. All the potential like lip and somehow excelled while working fulltime, the responsibility of fiona, the optism of carl as the officer and thebluck of all of them. Scaping the mental effects of poverty is extremely difficult. Like a shadow lurking over you...waiting. anyways, this show just got me thinking about my upbringing.
6:33 carl was one of the few characters to yell like this and it made me sad :(
I'm sorry I know it's a deeply serious scene, but Kevin at 13:35 makes me burst out laughing every time I don't know why
13:50 the scene in the betrayal of the kids emotions and viewpoints tour that kept me from traumatizing my own by doing the same
Such a great show with powerful moments. I never watched the show when it initially came out. But me and my girlfriend got into the show this year and just finished all seasons.
Lip is too hard on Fiona as if he hasn't made poor choices before, yes it was her fault that Liam got into the drugs but she owned up to it and was genuinely sorry. Fiona has carried her families burden since she was kid, she literally didn't have a childhood and the moment she decides to cut loose for one night she still gets yelled at. I can't imagine the pain she's gone through having to take the role of a parent at a young age. She deserved more
Pharmacy tech in training here, and I'm curious about something, not sure if anyone could answer. 0:25 Is there a reason for EMT's to give a toddler Ativan for cocaine ingestion?
As a land surveyor I can confidently say I don’t know maybe
Prevent seizure
As a 15th Century Land Baron I can safely say that it's witchcraft.
@@HuntersHuntlol
Ativan will slow down the coke till the hopsital can do what they do to save someone
Lip got on my nerves. Fiona screwed up plenty but so did he.
Glad that lip got to open a restaurant and Ian became a Jedi
I feel so bad for Fiona.
The best thing is that the Gallager children went to social services, it is obvious that Fiona was very dysfunctional (although she always said that thanks to her everyone got ahead), she almost killed Liam, she was a terrible example for Debbie with her bitch attitude, And so I can continue, Fiona is a fraud, she boasted about her success but the house that she presumed was in her name was thanks to Carl's drug money, she got her laundry business taking advantage of an old woman's Alzheimer's and I can go on, Enough of glorifying Fiona as a feisty woman who brought her brothers up, I think they had a better chance without her getting in the way.
THAT COURT SCENE 😢😢😢 first time i saw it i was sobbing and i still can't watch it without crumbling. I'm sad her character couldn't come back cuz of COVID but Fiona deserved to go
The acting in this show is way too good I cried in half of these scenes.
Excellent clips. Great job 👏 keep going
Lip saying he wanted Fiona out of the house for “getting” the 100 days sober guy to abuse substances again irks me to no end. It’s at the end of the day his fault for using substances, his fault for not deleting his plug’s number altogether. He wasn’t committed to staying sober quite obviously, and that is in no way Fiona’s fault. She isn’t obligated to make sure someone isn’t trying to be sober to use drugs and offer it. I’m not saying her substance abuse is okay, but she wasn’t the one that shoved the drugs into the guy’s bloodstream. Lip wanting so badly to blame Fiona for something that genuinely isn’t her fault is just so annoying, he never really develops from this either. Always blaming others.
“You were my mother too!!” Hits my soul so hard….trying to beg your mother to love you knowing they can’t the you want due to addiction..
Thank the show for made the crule hard life in the funny version, so people who were in the similar situation can find some smile from their hardcore fuckup life.
Aside from picking favorite characters, this is such a genius show and I believe it helps a lot of people.
Watching this is like looking in a mirror makes me tear up. I thought cool funny show nope the trauma matches too deep. They did the show so well
The part where carl was actually upset and told debbie how he really feels about himself made me kinda sad a lil bit.
8:37 as much as Fiona was fucking up around this time does have a point that lips sponsor deciding to relapse is not on her She didn't force him to do anything. He chose to. It's unfortunate and it's sad and it sucks that she did play a roll in it but it's not her fault
Something I realized watching this show, in the beginning they call Frank and Monica Mom and Dad until they finally accept who they truly are and have been
My opinion who does lip think he’s talking to bc Fiona literally raised him when Frank and Monica didn’t
half these scenes made me cry
It's like Lip forgot that Fiona wasn't his mom. She is his sister and she had a life too. She gave up her life for those I grateful assholes. I am glad she left. She needed to find her own life. I hate watching these episodes because it's so upsetting watch her give everything away and still be treated like absolute shit.
I’d this the actual music on the show?
Fiona basically made the show! She was def the foundation! Lip was wrong for blaming Fiona for everything n not giving her a CHANCE but she was all in for lip when he was dragging the bottle.
Naaa this was a tear jerker. Their mom slit wrist. Had an aunt who did that and OD on Fentanyl we found her in her home 3 days after it happened. Shit traumatized me for life.
That whole scene that starts at 15:23 was a very powerful moment ! I felt her pain ! U should have not cut the scene where she’s literary crying and then just sucks it up and starts cleaning the kitchen ! I knew that scene was going to be in here cuz I’ll never forget it ! It’s sad because Fiona especially has never had a break from suffering that she just brushes everything off and keeps pushing
People truly don't understand the willpower it takes to make it through another day without a drink. This show encapsulates addiction and what it does to everyone around you. It has been since 1991, and I still want a drink when things get bad. I just want to escape for a little while. Watching Frank....helps me keep the glass down.
12:39 “ i didnt hit him” idk why thats so funny to me lol
4:48 Now I can't unsee him as Cal Cestis.
I love Jimmy/Steve so much!!!
I usually watch TV to escape my problems. I watch this show to remind myself that my problems could be so much worse.