@@matthewrease2376 It's mostly unoptimized code made by Sonic Team themselves that is leaking through, since we've been looking into the slowdown for a while. A good chunk of it should be fixed next demo.
So many nice touches here: * The background of the stage showing through the holes in the wall in GHZ Act 2, as well as the prototype-style rolling ball being added. * The bonus stages looks great with more colour and larger sprites; I always liked the way they looked so it's nice to see them with a bit more fidelity. * The 16-bit remix of the boss music sounds great; I always preferred that grimy, jazzy sort of sound for boss music over the more serious, military-sounding ones from the Mega Drive games. * The newly-added second boss for GHZ also made me realize how few Sonic bosses actually make use of the momentum and physics. Think about it - most of them are almost entirely platforming based. Having to build up speed in the half pipe in order to reach Robotnik was a great idea. * Bridge Zone looks fantastic.
AMAZING! I've been dying for sokeone to do something like this (combing the md and gg versions and remixing them to Hell and back) forever. It feels amazing to see it be done so masterfully!
@@zac9181 False. The original poster is also false for different reasons. It's all SMS zones + 3 concept art zones (two of the originally planned zones got merged together, poster was working off a very old announcement I made in the public server once).
Dude, this is incredible! This is exactly what I imagined when thinking of a definitive version of Sonic 1. The welcome sign at the beginning, the unused assets brought back, and so much more too. Great job implementing the Bonus Stages from the SMS / GG Sonic as well, caught me by surprise when I saw them, as well as the second Eggman phase. One thing I hope gets ironed out is the new music, but that’s really it. Hope you keep enjoying to make this ROM as much as we like consuming it!
I remember back when the first demo came out, just a couple months after the 30th anniversary of Sonic 1 and the series as a whole. It's the reason I now prefer Sonic 1 over Sonic 2 (yes, you heard right). I look at this hack through the lens of an anniversary title because to me, it's the perfect culmination of both the Genesis and Master System versions of Sonic 1, as well as the emphasis of platforming over speed (that's still present) that I love about Sonic 1; it's almost surreal that this even exists. I can only imagine how players would react if Sonic 1 looked like this back in the '90s. Many people call Sonic 1 the weakest of the mainline Classic Sonic games because of how much better its successors are in comparison. But if this was the version of Sonic 1 we got all the way back in 1991, it would have honestly been on equal footing. But then again, nothing would be the same as it is now, would it? On behalf of the community, thank you and the team for helping give life to this wonderful love letter to Sonic 1. You are absolutely one of my favorite channels on this platform.
Despite the reinvigorated Genesis/MD scene pumping out dozens of new games, there is shockingly little Sonic content. Makes this fan game extra special.
Woah, this looks cool! If there's one criticism I'd give though, it's that the sound design can feel a little chaotic at times, especially in the bonus stages with the music and bumper noises.
This isn't just remaking or reimagining the first game (or games technically in this case) this is basically making a "Zero Mission" type remake of the game and dang this game when through some changes from the SHC build
So am I the only one who's not getting excited because I can recall dozens and dozens of projects just as high quality over the years, yet NONE of them *actually get finished*. How many Sonic fan stuff can we all get excited about over and over for it to be abandoned before we stop expecting any finished products? Nothing against whoever is making this one but the track record of sonic fan projects is, well, miserable, to put it lightly.
I’m loving this Project so much. If I could just ask for one thing, it would be for the Mini Boss theme to be reverted to the one from the previous release, as I feel the lower key suited Robotnik’s more menacing nature in the first game. Overall, fantastic progress. 😁
I love how you added the water cave element from GHZ2 ala Master System version! And the big ring releasing a bunch of small rings is brilliant. Excited to see what comes of this
That ship has sailed since they released Origins and the new lore seems to be that the Master System/Game Gear titles happened some time after the Mega Drive ones. But combining the titles and making definitive versions of games like Sonic and Sonic 2 would have been far more interesting. Telling the complete story of each location/island like this is far more compelling. Fantastic work!
Oh man, I've been wanting to get back to doing something akin to this for some time (though Retro Engine based) This looks killer. Best of luck with this!
Played this last night on a model 1 Genesis, the slowdown was pretty bad. There was almost no slowdown in the previous build, so it's noticeable right away. That said, everything looks incredible and it really is a big improvement over Sonic 1 Definitive.
1:02 it's pretty interesting how you introduced the mid-air-thingy from sonic triple trouble, anyways is this based-off all of the 3 versions of sonic 1? [mega-drive, master-system, & game-gear]
MDTravis, you've come a long way in the hacking community. I don't know what else to say as I am flabbergasted by just the start of the video and playing your past work, and I just wanted to comment this to say you are the best when it comes to making this type of stuff
DIdn't except you to respond so quickly! I like that! Anyways, the team has done a great job on producing such an amazing project and you've done good work with polishing it as it seems@@MDTravisYT
I was hoping for more inspiration from the GG GHZ. So more downward hill slopes, waterfall climbing, etc. It looks nice. It does feel a bit too.....tuned for veteran Sonic players though? Saying that Bridge Hill Zone looks absolutely excellent! Bonus levels are great too!
Nah, the music's by far amongst the least CPU-intensive parts of the hack. Most of the slowdown boils down to object logic needing to be optimized more (which we are already doing).
A fan game can be made that runs on real hardware, Pokémon has several. To the other commenter, this is a hybrid of 8-bit and 16-bit Sonic 1 with brand new level layouts. It’s enough alterations to the base call it a fan game.
@@protocetid To be fair, it's both. A ROM hack is a medium through which one can make a fan game. And, this is a ROM hack, a modification of Sonic 1. I'd know this. *I started the project*, though it's expanded and become mostly autonomous (thankfully).
Because those don't have the same story as Sonic 1 (Sonic 1 8-bit shares a LOT of the same Japanese manual story in Japan), and would basically mean having ALL the 8-bit games merged into it, because ALL of them are on South Island. We're not wanting to make a 30+ zone experience here! :p
@@therealinferno161 that’s okay. Was just a suggestion. Cool creation though. A suggestion I would love to play is a SpongeBob and Sonic crossover game that’s 16 bit styled
Игры
That menu is amazing though, I like how it is styled after the JP box art.
Thank you!
This looks fantastic! Hopefully that slowdown can be dealt with. Seems like there’s a lot going on that the genesis doesn’t particularly like.
TBH I always liked the slowdown in retro games. Made whatever was going on feel more impactful.
@@pufflepointit's only annoying in labyrinth zone when you're trying to not drown
Blast Processing Technology
Or just unoptimized code...
@@matthewrease2376 It's mostly unoptimized code made by Sonic Team themselves that is leaking through, since we've been looking into the slowdown for a while. A good chunk of it should be fixed next demo.
it's impressing how the genesis still manages to run this well
I thought it was 32x
@@gmoneythestickman Nope, just standalone Genesis. (The 32x is a whole other beast to program for.)
Genesis does
So many nice touches here:
* The background of the stage showing through the holes in the wall in GHZ Act 2, as well as the prototype-style rolling ball being added.
* The bonus stages looks great with more colour and larger sprites; I always liked the way they looked so it's nice to see them with a bit more fidelity.
* The 16-bit remix of the boss music sounds great; I always preferred that grimy, jazzy sort of sound for boss music over the more serious, military-sounding ones from the Mega Drive games.
* The newly-added second boss for GHZ also made me realize how few Sonic bosses actually make use of the momentum and physics. Think about it - most of them are almost entirely platforming based. Having to build up speed in the half pipe in order to reach Robotnik was a great idea.
* Bridge Zone looks fantastic.
This is so awesome, I can't believe it handles so well on real hardware
AMAZING! I've been dying for sokeone to do something like this (combing the md and gg versions and remixing them to Hell and back) forever. It feels amazing to see it be done so masterfully!
My thoughts exactly 🥂
also, there is going to be 4 more zones based on concept art
@@MakingCoolThingsFrom what I got, they actually mean 3 Zones for Sonic for the Master system, and 1 Zone from the concept art.
@@zac9181 False. The original poster is also false for different reasons.
It's all SMS zones + 3 concept art zones (two of the originally planned zones got merged together, poster was working off a very old announcement I made in the public server once).
@@therealinferno161 Darn, that’s a lot of zones. Can’t wait to see them.
The sprite art here is some of the best I’ve ever seen, period. Absolutely stellar
This feels like Sonic 1 but with a stylish twist from the gameplay itself, I completely love it
Dude, this is incredible! This is exactly what I imagined when thinking of a definitive version of Sonic 1. The welcome sign at the beginning, the unused assets brought back, and so much more too. Great job implementing the Bonus Stages from the SMS / GG Sonic as well, caught me by surprise when I saw them, as well as the second Eggman phase. One thing I hope gets ironed out is the new music, but that’s really it.
Hope you keep enjoying to make this ROM as much as we like consuming it!
He didnt make it im pretty sure, the RadiantNexus team did
@@moriadannotmilk I'm a member of the team. I mostly handle sound stuff.
Oh@@MDTravisYT
This is some seriously amazing work you're doing. I'm glad this was reccomended to me!
This is quite literally modern Classic Sonic.
Dude, when I saw footage of this I thought it was a Sonic Mania mod what, this is INSANE for the genesis!!
this looks crazy good! i love this idea and it looks fantastic. i particularly love that green hill act 1 remix, it sounds awesome!
I remember back when the first demo came out, just a couple months after the 30th anniversary of Sonic 1 and the series as a whole. It's the reason I now prefer Sonic 1 over Sonic 2 (yes, you heard right). I look at this hack through the lens of an anniversary title because to me, it's the perfect culmination of both the Genesis and Master System versions of Sonic 1, as well as the emphasis of platforming over speed (that's still present) that I love about Sonic 1; it's almost surreal that this even exists. I can only imagine how players would react if Sonic 1 looked like this back in the '90s. Many people call Sonic 1 the weakest of the mainline Classic Sonic games because of how much better its successors are in comparison. But if this was the version of Sonic 1 we got all the way back in 1991, it would have honestly been on equal footing. But then again, nothing would be the same as it is now, would it?
On behalf of the community, thank you and the team for helping give life to this wonderful love letter to Sonic 1. You are absolutely one of my favorite channels on this platform.
5:15 you're so god damn real for using up on that green hill
Amazing, comrad! You definitely recreate 1 of the most iconic games of the world.
Is no one gunna bring up the Marble Zone Track? Holy shit I feel in love with it the moment it played.
Despite the reinvigorated Genesis/MD scene pumping out dozens of new games, there is shockingly little Sonic content. Makes this fan game extra special.
I kinda like the slowdown, makes me feel alive. Great job ❤
Woah, this looks cool! If there's one criticism I'd give though, it's that the sound design can feel a little chaotic at times, especially in the bonus stages with the music and bumper noises.
The bonus stage is meant to be chaotic.
Honestly, it’s interesting to see how much this has progressed. Last I saw of it was the demo that ended on bridge zone act 1.
This isn't just remaking or reimagining the first game (or games technically in this case) this is basically making a "Zero Mission" type remake of the game and dang this game when through some changes from the SHC build
That's the first time I've heard that comparison. I like it.
This is basically if Sonic 1 was a sequel
You’ve heard of Sonic: Before the Sequel and Sonic: After the Sequel. Behold, Sonic: The Sequel!
So am I the only one who's not getting excited because I can recall dozens and dozens of projects just as high quality over the years, yet NONE of them *actually get finished*.
How many Sonic fan stuff can we all get excited about over and over for it to be abandoned before we stop expecting any finished products? Nothing against whoever is making this one but the track record of sonic fan projects is, well, miserable, to put it lightly.
This just got released. We are still working on it, so don't let your hopes down.
I’m loving this Project so much. If I could just ask for one thing, it would be for the Mini Boss theme to be reverted to the one from the previous release, as I feel the lower key suited Robotnik’s more menacing nature in the first game. Overall, fantastic progress. 😁
I love how you added the water cave element from GHZ2 ala Master System version! And the big ring releasing a bunch of small rings is brilliant. Excited to see what comes of this
holy moly this looks gorgeous
Hope it gets finished. Seen a lot of Sonic 1 remake hacks, but this looks way better than any of the others
That typical Genesis slowdown is very nostalgic. This looks incredible!
This is crazy, nice work!
This looks amazing, I'll definitely give it a try
6:44 this song is familiar to the intro of a show i used to watch as a kid.
It was Wansapanataym? Every 90's filipino kids back then would know
That ship has sailed since they released Origins and the new lore seems to be that the Master System/Game Gear titles happened some time after the Mega Drive ones. But combining the titles and making definitive versions of games like Sonic and Sonic 2 would have been far more interesting. Telling the complete story of each location/island like this is far more compelling. Fantastic work!
wow this got a MASSIVE FACELIFT since the shc 2021
ooaugh the dynamic camera in this, its so smooth..
This looks amazing...
Oh man, I've been wanting to get back to doing something akin to this for some time (though Retro Engine based)
This looks killer. Best of luck with this!
Played this last night on a model 1 Genesis, the slowdown was pretty bad. There was almost no slowdown in the previous build, so it's noticeable right away. That said, everything looks incredible and it really is a big improvement over Sonic 1 Definitive.
Did you try the latest version? The green hill slowdown should be patched now.
@@MDTravisYTI'm pretty sure it was the latest version. It's the one from the link in the description, date edited Wed Nov 29.
1:02 it's pretty interesting how you introduced the mid-air-thingy from sonic triple trouble, anyways is this based-off all of the 3 versions of sonic 1? [mega-drive, master-system, & game-gear]
I love the mini boss theme, it slaps!
The rest of this is great as well!
This looks amazing !!!
It's wonderful, that's so perfect!
The music seems to struggle whenever rings are collected, which happens a lot
sonic definitive finally got an update⁉
That's what I was thinking about!
MDTravis, you've come a long way in the hacking community. I don't know what else to say as I am flabbergasted by just the start of the video and playing your past work, and I just wanted to comment this to say you are the best when it comes to making this type of stuff
This is a team project. I've done general polishing and sound effects.
DIdn't except you to respond so quickly! I like that! Anyways, the team has done a great job on producing such an amazing project and you've done good work with polishing it as it seems@@MDTravisYT
I'm liking this hack so far!
amazing remake
Hot damn this looks active AF!!
OMG IT USES THE SEGASONIC BROS SOUNDTRACK AAAA I LOVE IT!!!!!
I'm so glad they changed the snare drum in the music, after Superstars I never want to hear the old snare again
It's the same snare, just played as it's intended to sound.
That look so cool and it reminds me a lot about sonic OVA
Actually amazing
Sonic 1 in an alternate reality
It's all I've ever wanted.... Please finish this.
This looks so good 🎉🎉🎉 i only have one question; when you guys get to Labyrinth, will you use the 16 or 8-bit music?
i bet they'd use both. 1 act for each version.
Looks great
Green Hill Zone 2's music sounds amazing oh my God
Very incredible
i love eggman theme
SONIC 1 DEFINITIVE IS BAAAAAAAAAAAACCKKKK!!!!!!! 🎉🎉
Holy sh*t that's a lot of effects.
i love how the menus look like the japanese box designs
DAMN! Let Bro Cook!
Oh no, I’m edging
Holy shit this looks amazing
No comment. Lovely game all-round.
awesome up on the green hill inspired act 2 music
now I gotta do what I did back when you did the puzzle in the server and play this on Windows Vista
Cool!
I thot the CGS said CG5, swear I was boutta say, “this is gonna have some top tier music.”
I was hoping for more inspiration from the GG GHZ. So more downward hill slopes, waterfall climbing, etc.
It looks nice. It does feel a bit too.....tuned for veteran Sonic players though?
Saying that Bridge Hill Zone looks absolutely excellent! Bonus levels are great too!
awesome
you actually made marble zone good wtf
im so hyped for this hack
I played the earlier demo in 2021 and this looks awesome. Can you make sure it’s also PAL optimised please? ✌🏻
HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE
Fuckin awesome.
Are the chaos emeralds going to be in the game?
One of the best hacks ive seen
Music sounds so fresh, it's disappointing Sega never done anything with the old games
well you just said it, they are **old** games, why would sega want to do anything with a game thats 32 years old/
@@TrackedToasted same reason why they port sonic classic on almost every console. old games deserves a remake, don't you think so?
What could that zone with the hanger/glider be?
Wouldn't you like to know, weather boy? :p
@@therealinferno161Where are your parents?
@@therealinferno161 this is a clue! maybe this sky base brase case lase race mace zone!
I have a idea for the back and foreground, so you know that EYX sonic? So b4 things get creepy, the fore and background moves when you move as well.
This isn't a creepypasta. This will not have anything .EXE related.
i don´t really want creppy pasta elements like realistic bloddy eyes, i just thought that could be a neat detail.@@launchbasezone
please please please please please finish this it looks phenomenal
That's the plan!
@@MDTravisYT YIPPIE!!!!!!!!
oof, so many slowdowns in ghz2
why didn't we get this? lol
You can! The link is in the description.
Well, there goes my fangame idea
Just because someone made something before you did doesn't mean you should just give up
@@Vaffle_1231 yeah, but if I went ahead with the project anyways, it would be redundant since this exists
And, (no offense) it's not like it would GET popular or have amazing sprites. That shit's hard to make.
@@HexPerplex Well don't knock it until you try it
do Sonic 2 instead
This would probably run better if it used the SEGA CD for the music but it looks good so far, even if it looks like some code optimisation is needed.
Nah, the music's by far amongst the least CPU-intensive parts of the hack. Most of the slowdown boils down to object logic needing to be optimized more (which we are already doing).
I’m not sure I like a lot of the changes to Green Hill. It kinda loses the pure, simple charm of-
>Bridge Zone
Nevermind. Game’s perfect.
should be finished by shc 24..
Can you release some soundtracks?
We plan on it, don't worry!
I thought this was a fan game, not a game that works on real hardware
Nope, it's an actual ROM hack.
A fan game can be made that runs on real hardware, Pokémon has several. To the other commenter, this is a hybrid of 8-bit and 16-bit Sonic 1 with brand new level layouts. It’s enough alterations to the base call it a fan game.
@@protocetid To be fair, it's both. A ROM hack is a medium through which one can make a fan game.
And, this is a ROM hack, a modification of Sonic 1.
I'd know this. *I started the project*, though it's expanded and become mostly autonomous (thankfully).
Please Make HD!
Now 2023!
It's look like 144p!
This is the best quality I can get out of hardware for now.
i dont have a copy of sonic 1 for the rom, what do i do.
You don't need one! You can just download and play!
@@MDTravisYT if i remember correctly, it was a bin or rar file, so i can’t exactly play it.
@@MDTravisYT but i can try one more thing, ill do it later.
Use an emulator.
Bro Man there was no Bridge Zone Act 2 and Marble Zone Act 1 didn't end with a boss
Not yet anyway!
@@MDTravisYT Great!
what universe did you steal this from?
What shader were you using here?
A composite cable.
the video is a real hardware recording dude how do you miss that in the title
Why not just go ahead and include other gg games that take place on south island
Because those don't have the same story as Sonic 1 (Sonic 1 8-bit shares a LOT of the same Japanese manual story in Japan), and would basically mean having ALL the 8-bit games merged into it, because ALL of them are on South Island. We're not wanting to make a 30+ zone experience here! :p
@@therealinferno161 that’s okay. Was just a suggestion. Cool creation though. A suggestion I would love to play is a SpongeBob and Sonic crossover game that’s 16 bit styled
IS IT GONA BE A GAN GAME OR ROM HACK?
A. There's already a public demo linked in the description.
B. ROM hack.
Sonic fans make better games than Sega