Mappa's $1,000,000 Problem

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  • Опубликовано: 6 окт 2024

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  • @VirtueYoutube
    @VirtueYoutube  11 месяцев назад +19

    support animators: gogetfunding.com/animator-dorm-2023/

  • @datl3afn1nja9
    @datl3afn1nja9 11 месяцев назад +456

    Zom100 is a great show about employees being extremely overworked and the anime is now in hiatus because the employees were over worked. So ironic lol

    • @RosettaGR396
      @RosettaGR396 10 месяцев назад +18

      Guess what, the remaining episode have been announced to be released on Christmas, December 25.

    • @reverseshin
      @reverseshin 10 месяцев назад +8

      apparently Zom100 is on Hiatus for the animators well being (just a rumor though)

    • @egsir
      @egsir 10 месяцев назад +12

      @@reverseshinno its because the production crashed

    • @reverseshin
      @reverseshin 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@egsir oh okay, thank you for the factual information. I hear rumors at times, so it’s difficult to really know.

    • @leon3295
      @leon3295 10 месяцев назад

      bro i love that anime. they should have cancelled trash animes popping up in netflix

  • @Bobby_Bobson
    @Bobby_Bobson 11 месяцев назад +116

    The product that MAPPA puts out has floored me multiple times and will probably continue to do so, but man I have to say I agree that the work practices present in the studio is highly unsustainable and should be worked on. Whether it be taking on less projects, slowing releases, or some other management shenanigans, the animators at MAPPA deserve a way to lighten their load. Shout out to the animators, they deserve all the praise and hopefully in the future there’ll be some progress in alleviating this problem present not just in animation, but in a lot of Japanese industries.

  • @yourjoking.
    @yourjoking. 10 месяцев назад +110

    people have been spoiled by amazing animation to the point were good animation is deemed bad because its not on par or better than jjk or chainsaw man or demon slayer, hells paradise is a great show with a super interesting premise and the animation is just fine, but people only focus on the animation and then compare it to other shoes, its like how jogo was seen as weak because he really only fought the top two in his verse but compared to everyone else he was strong.

    • @VirtueYoutube
      @VirtueYoutube  10 месяцев назад +16

      yeah I feel this, but with hells paradise being as popular of a manga as it is it made me wonder why it didn't get the same treatment as a csm/jjk. I still don't think hells paradise is bad tho.

    • @mojus2890
      @mojus2890 10 месяцев назад +3

      The based artwork is paradise is good but the motion is very mediocre.

    • @MariYolo
      @MariYolo 10 месяцев назад

      @@VirtueRUclipshells paradise is popular?

    • @alchemistofsteel8099
      @alchemistofsteel8099 10 месяцев назад +5

      Black Lagoon and Ergo Proxy have good animation and there old.

    • @syafiqazizi6746
      @syafiqazizi6746 10 месяцев назад +4

      as someone who loves anime, idc at all about the animation, if its not good or not attractive, I'm not gonna watch it, that's all. The problem rn,and is how the animators are treated, those guys look dead, look at the eyes tho, I can't imagine working that hard, I work carrying stuff at supermarket, but I can say that I'm not looking as dead as these animators. Hope this issue is not going to get worse

  • @ketruc485
    @ketruc485 10 месяцев назад +9

    "Seven deadly frame" 💀

  • @TheSideGuy
    @TheSideGuy 11 месяцев назад +25

    Let me try to clear a few things
    1.Ure absolutely right about jjk that anime's production cud collapse any ep at this point. CSM had 2 yrs to make its anime jjk had like 9 months 💀
    2.Hell's paradise looks bad not because of the overwork(tho that is still there) but if a team of animators are busy animating thinks LIKE GODDAMN JJK AND CSM then who is left to work at hell's paradise(answer: no one).
    3.Chainsaw man's first 8 ep were a masterclass production and then it dipped a bit but chainsaw man is still one of the best animated shows out there.
    4. AOT's final chapters have gotten the time they needed so AOT looks beyond incredible.(If this cud happen with CSM and JJK too then we might just get smth better than even demon slayer or mob psycho)

    • @racool911
      @racool911 10 месяцев назад +3

      And then they barely had to try for Vinland Saga cause there was barely much to animate lmao

    • @lazyworkingsloth
      @lazyworkingsloth 9 месяцев назад +1

      Little late but want to make some corrections, JJK and CSM are made by the Seshimo line of MAPPA that is probably the best team in the anime industry for pulling in talented freelancers and also has some really good inhouse MAPPA animators like Takafumi Mitani (Solo animated ending 8 of Chainsaw Man). However, CSM production was more like around 9 months because it couldn't really start after JJK 0 was finished and JJK S2 can't start after CSM, you get the idea.
      For Hell's Paradise, it doesn't share the same team as the Seshimo line. It's under producer Kawagoe who also is the producer of AOT and prioritized talented animators onto AOT over Hell's Paradise causing it to look worse (He did provide a lot of talented directors onto HP though). This should be fixed with AOT end though.

    • @TheSideGuy
      @TheSideGuy 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@lazyworkingsloth hell’s paradise is technically under that team but the people who participated were from all the teams because it didn’t have the resources to sustain itself

  • @racool911
    @racool911 10 месяцев назад +3

    I wasn't expecting the Genshin music in the background lmao

  • @JefersonDominguesPinheiro
    @JefersonDominguesPinheiro 11 месяцев назад +38

    What if workers could get together in some large group and negotiate better working conditions?

    • @missantrafalgar782
      @missantrafalgar782 11 месяцев назад +17

      It's harder than it sounds.

    • @naktheseal489
      @naktheseal489 11 месяцев назад +19

      the culture in japan just isn't there. The country is small, the societal pressure to be in the working class is amplified to the point people would rather commit suicide than be deemed a failure of an adult. It's a lot different compared to the U.S. and EU, there just isn't that community support from workers all around. Unions only work when you're in unison hence the name, if your coworker can't strike with you then there's no point.

    • @JuanThaSilva
      @JuanThaSilva 11 месяцев назад +2

      If only one would have such time.

    • @1001011011010
      @1001011011010 10 месяцев назад

      ​​​​​@@naktheseal489 According to OECD data in 2019 (latest date for data I found) there was a trade union density (percentage of employees) of 16.8% which is decently sizeable. Compare it with the US which had a trade union density of only 10.3% as of 2020.
      The concept that labor unions (労働組合) don't exist in Japan is not correct

    • @malek015Ai
      @malek015Ai 10 месяцев назад

      @woweman Yeah, but the persons that make mappa aren't there anymore.

  • @rogue6242
    @rogue6242 11 месяцев назад +6

    This video is acc fire fr keep up the good work bro

  • @blahblah-ez6cr
    @blahblah-ez6cr 11 месяцев назад +7

    It's Japanese work culture that's ruining lives and efforts that animators have to put in. They be taking too much projects that they don't know they can handle just for money.

  • @ChimeraLotietheBunny
    @ChimeraLotietheBunny 9 месяцев назад +2

    Respect for any animator and studio

  • @modnarm9341
    @modnarm9341 11 месяцев назад +20

    Then we should give them flexibility. By us the consumers and the producers not to always expect a weekly episode.
    In that way it was a less burnout to the talent and give them more room to express their artistic view.
    Maybe netflix approach is much more Ideal. Release them in whole season and when it's ready

    • @buckaroooo
      @buckaroooo 10 месяцев назад +4

      most people say that, then they seem to get frustrated and irritated, saying that it's taking forever, or I wish it was back like before where it would take a week. MAPPA should get more animators and actually pay them well since they have 1.52B dollars and barely any of that money goes to the animators.

    • @stathisconstantinou
      @stathisconstantinou 10 месяцев назад

      Bro anime release weekly for the Japanese television. It's not like it's profitable for them to do that

    • @modnarm9341
      @modnarm9341 10 месяцев назад

      Yeah, it's weekly broadcast, I think and in my opinion, that tradition needs to be changed. For the well-being of those people behind the production.

    • @animatorofnothing9178
      @animatorofnothing9178 10 месяцев назад

      don't they make most of the episodes before they start releasing them weekly? if anything we should be more willing to wait a few year(s) so that they can get everything together without overwork before the batch of episodes are ready to release weekly.

    • @buckaroooo
      @buckaroooo 10 месяцев назад

      @@animatorofnothing9178 not sure, but i heard they make the episode like 2 days or 1 days before the deadline so if they took a strike, it would go into hiatus

  • @WhoIsGoLDENRaTi0
    @WhoIsGoLDENRaTi0 10 месяцев назад +4

    7 deadly frames lol

  • @caedmonmcclellen6676
    @caedmonmcclellen6676 11 месяцев назад +5

    Love this video! Please keep making more for us

  • @OkiMiku
    @OkiMiku 11 месяцев назад +7

    Fire video. Give those animators a god damn break!

  • @greenmedic88
    @greenmedic88 10 месяцев назад +4

    Here's a sobering thought: as long as the current popularity of anime sustains, or even grows (it will peak internationally at some time as all things eventually do), there simply are not enough skilled, and/or experienced creatives and production staff to fulfill the needs of the market, which means animation studios will continue to rely heavily upon underpaid, overworked freelancers and offshore labor.
    You want to see all your favorite manga get the proper anime treatment for your entertainment? That's the cost. You want it: they pay for it.
    Until the industry contracts due to waning popularity, and fewer projects are ordered, and studios become more selective about what gets produced, and the workforce is pared down to the more talented, skilled, experienced artists who will work longer production pipelines to ensure quality control, while remaining on budget, the current state of the industry is the way it's going to be.

  • @Bildnow.
    @Bildnow. 11 месяцев назад +4

    how this only has 190 views is far beyond me this video was good

    • @VirtueYoutube
      @VirtueYoutube  11 месяцев назад +1

      much love, sharing with ur homies will help

  • @opticalcanine
    @opticalcanine 10 месяцев назад +3

    I just want dorohedoro season 2

  • @bogdangalluzzi2141
    @bogdangalluzzi2141 10 месяцев назад +2

    mappa will be selling there shows to other companies within the next 2 years garunteed

  • @kenmaru777
    @kenmaru777 10 месяцев назад +6

    Greatest thing of Mappa team in infinity amount of creativity and love for their projects
    Jjk csm aot would be easily ruined in different hands
    Authors of manga works with studio to make it perfect
    Biggest problem is TIME
    weebs can't even wait 1 year without crying everywhere

    • @VirtueYoutube
      @VirtueYoutube  10 месяцев назад +2

      I agree! Time is another thing that the current animators are complaining a lot about, and is something we need to consider

    • @egsir
      @egsir 10 месяцев назад +2

      You cant say jjk or csm would be ruined without the seshimo line or aot would be ruined without arai or Hayashi. Theirs other talented staff from other studios or just as free lancers such as the Hakuyu Go team.

    • @Rudra-Raut811
      @Rudra-Raut811 10 месяцев назад

      @@egsir idk about csm but bro jjk manga is mid but anime make it better

    • @politedonut2637
      @politedonut2637 10 месяцев назад

      ​@@Rudra-Raut811jjk isnt really focused o the story its more focused on the action scenes

    • @davidgreen5994
      @davidgreen5994 10 месяцев назад +1

      Dude, it has nothing to do with weebs not being able to wait. MAPPA's time issues, stem from their imbecile of a CEO, who wants to make MAPPA into the biggest anime studio, in just a couple of years, and just takes project after project, to the point that they get impossible to manage. JJK isn't in a crisis now, because they were not given enough time - they were given two whole years to work on it - the hellish schedule is the result of the CEO buying the rights for Chainsaw Man, and deciding to anime CSM instead of doing JJK, which left MAPPA with 6 months to work on JJK.

  • @Notvlrx
    @Notvlrx 11 месяцев назад +3

    These people need to stop complaining on Twitter. Mappa releasing weekly episode even with inconsistency is already good enough considering they picked up a lot of show to be animated by them even Bleach Thousand-year Blood War Arc that's been in production for 5 years still have 5 directors in one of the episode meaning there's A LOT of bad scheduling and problems and even Aniplex had to stop/delayed 3 anime at the same time due to how bad their scheduling and problems is, and no this is not Mappa's problem this is the whole industry problem, why? because no one wants to be an animator anymore because of the low pay thingy and they are too independent in the freelancers and college students that they are using/hiring meaning if one of them gets sick by let's say C19 virus because their country still suffer that virus they will have to delay the entire show for 1 whole week because 1 staff matters a lot, and not to mention the new culture of streaming problem on why a lot of anime EVEN that are bad is being produced and animated, and the corruption and things and bla bla bla, but I won't go too deep into it since I don't really know much and it will take me ages to write everything

  • @anothertrashchannel6819
    @anothertrashchannel6819 11 месяцев назад +2

    kinda off topic but this video production quality is amazing. keep working hard man

  • @artcooldude6711
    @artcooldude6711 10 месяцев назад +2

    i blame the committees who pick up the manga for adaptation and set the deadlines for the studios.

    • @egsir
      @egsir 10 месяцев назад +3

      For the case of jjk, the production committee gave 2 years for season 2 but manabu otsuka and the executives at MAPPA decided to have csm in production during jjk 0 and the presumed production of jjk s2 which led jjk s2 pre production and production to only be in 9 months

  • @SonaChainsaw
    @SonaChainsaw 5 месяцев назад

    0:42 well you see JJk is mappa’s golden child

  • @timmyyyy999
    @timmyyyy999 9 месяцев назад +1

    When i saw the title i thought this was gonna be another "oh mappa is treating their animators so bad ohh poor working conditions" video. But im glad it wasnt and actually tried to give an explanation and solution approach. Good video🔥🔥❤️

  • @Koughatwharf5105
    @Koughatwharf5105 9 месяцев назад

    EVRY PRODUCT MAPPA WORKED ON BLEW MY MIND-

  • @beastakip1777
    @beastakip1777 10 месяцев назад +1

    1:04 Glad to see people still calling it 7 deadly frames since that ep aired xD

  • @Multi_XY
    @Multi_XY 8 месяцев назад

    The twitter people and mappa managers tag team is just 🔥 🔥 🔥

  • @4rtEnjoyer
    @4rtEnjoyer 11 месяцев назад +2

    5:58 or around there, if there is something I appreciated about CGI is that it for sure can get better, my biggest look up is initial D. Making the cars actually look more 2D than CGI compared to the first season.

  • @SteeLiveLP
    @SteeLiveLP 10 месяцев назад +2

    First of all great video! Second this is a problem in every industry now. Balancing making money, talent, and time as the world grows is starting to stretch and the big solution we have all been willing to accept is quality basically throwing it out, obviously not necessarily in anime but everything else around us. I think the world has a bigger issue and that's people were not design to scale with the infrastructure we have created.

  • @zurut99
    @zurut99 10 месяцев назад +1

    0:30 tgey should have used this soundtrack its so cool

  • @1AKAvg
    @1AKAvg 11 месяцев назад +2

    1:06 Seven deadly frames 🤣

  • @ravencl
    @ravencl 11 месяцев назад +3

    You showed a part of the latest toji part, where did you get that from? When I watch it on crunchyroll it randomly dims and ghosts throughout the first part of ep 39

    • @VirtueYoutube
      @VirtueYoutube  11 месяцев назад +2

      i manually undimmed it, but I think you can find the clip around on twitter too. It'll also be undimmed on bluray

  • @Kellow_
    @Kellow_ 11 месяцев назад +2

    good video, needs more views

  • @brianmcmanus5126
    @brianmcmanus5126 11 месяцев назад +2

    otsuka is just lost man he gonna end up destroying his best production line in an attempt to brut force achieve something with an answer to it right in his face

  • @ryanpatten2302
    @ryanpatten2302 11 месяцев назад +2

    Amazing video!

  • @SingTingz31
    @SingTingz31 10 месяцев назад

    I know its more complicated than this, but a big part of te problem with all of this is us, the consumers.

  • @ARYN_to
    @ARYN_to 10 месяцев назад

    Bro picked up the baground from Genshin 😅

  • @thebuildaboatmaster1449
    @thebuildaboatmaster1449 11 месяцев назад +2

    This guy need to be seen on RUclips

    • @VirtueYoutube
      @VirtueYoutube  11 месяцев назад +1

      ty bro sharing w/ ur homies will help

  • @purplish_blue
    @purplish_blue 10 месяцев назад +3

    they should just have longer to make episodes, we dont need a perfect episode every week, weekly or even monthly breaks would be great. i would love to see a chainsaw man season 2 and omp s3, and if mappa keeps this up the studio will go under and or the episodes quality will be worsened. giving the animators more time is definitely something that should be done.

    • @davidgreen5994
      @davidgreen5994 10 месяцев назад +1

      Dude, there is no need to make any changes to the schedule - the studios just need to negotiate better rates on their contracts and take fewer projects, so that they can have enough time to finish their projects. MAPPA literally had 2 whole years to do JJK season 2 - two years! And instead of focusing on that, the CEO decided to Chainsaw Man in between, which ended up leaving them with 6 months to work on JJK.

    • @purplish_blue
      @purplish_blue 10 месяцев назад

      @@davidgreen5994 changing schedule would still give animators more time and would therefore be benificial

  • @ViewtifulJae
    @ViewtifulJae 10 месяцев назад

    I can’t expect the quality to be consistent across the board I would expect the more profitable ip to take up more of an investment or general effort .

  • @jaspitejackson4452
    @jaspitejackson4452 10 месяцев назад +2

    if your a jujutsu kaisen fan you wont hate on the art or the way it looks cause it actually looks amazing plus i did even see and bad problems with it

    • @jaspitejackson4452
      @jaspitejackson4452 10 месяцев назад

      am starting to have no faith in humanity now

    • @VirtueYoutube
      @VirtueYoutube  10 месяцев назад +1

      I don't dislike anything ab the art in jjk,

  • @TheGreedyGreed420
    @TheGreedyGreed420 10 месяцев назад +1

    U earned my sub fr fr

  • @devonejackson8130
    @devonejackson8130 10 месяцев назад +1

    love this video but the random genshin combat music is fucking me up

  • @Wegboe
    @Wegboe 10 месяцев назад +1

    I hope there will be a chainsaw man season 2

  • @ZDoreTyr
    @ZDoreTyr 10 месяцев назад

    Speaking for myself I don’t think anyone watching hells paradise and that’s why- they don’t want to put in extra effort if there’s not enough support.

  • @claudiuskeat8336
    @claudiuskeat8336 10 месяцев назад

    the first episodes of Mappa's attack on titan is horrendous. The Armored Titan is supposed to be a colossal tank and he moves like he's 200 pounds

  • @jesterapp
    @jesterapp 10 месяцев назад

    There is nothing wrong with Hell's Paradise.

  • @osricen
    @osricen 10 месяцев назад

    Hell's Paradise was such a waste of time.
    It wasn't only the ugly visuals, but the BORING characters and overall story.

  • @vaangh
    @vaangh 9 месяцев назад

    hey who is the animator at 3:09 who couldnt finish their work i really like their art

  • @ViewtifulJae
    @ViewtifulJae 10 месяцев назад

    I never saw the appeal in seven deadly sins or black clover or fairy tale. They always came across like cheap knock offs of what we already were getting from better ip

  • @NoblQT
    @NoblQT 10 месяцев назад

    UNDERATED

  • @orbit023
    @orbit023 10 месяцев назад

    Let AI take care of the animations lol. It’s only a matter of time before it actually does anyways. Animators/Artists just ganna have to cope 😬💀

  • @gosukelee5
    @gosukelee5 10 месяцев назад +1

    I have no problems with hell's paradise I really don't understand the hate smh... Seen waaaayy worse animation ffs people are sooo spoilt

    • @VirtueYoutube
      @VirtueYoutube  10 месяцев назад +2

      the problem not really with hell's paradise specifically, I'm just using the gap between it and some of their other stuff to highlight a point.

  • @mrkaji8913
    @mrkaji8913 10 месяцев назад

    I would’ve liked New adapt more DC storylines

  • @chicken29843
    @chicken29843 10 месяцев назад

    Lol people mad about AI art but soon enough it'll make all these problems go away

  • @felixracine3994
    @felixracine3994 10 месяцев назад

    The weekly format isn’t productive tbh. They should just take as much time as they need and release everything in one go

    • @Ayeato
      @Ayeato 10 месяцев назад +1

      The weekly format is perfectly fine when used how its supposed to be. The problem has nothing to do with the format.

    • @fdevaa
      @fdevaa 10 месяцев назад +1

      Problem is too many ongoing projects on the same timeline, probably. Weekly release is more favorable over one whole season in a go release. It keeps the anime on trending and keeps the fan happy. Those animators can handle it for sure, they're professionals.

  • @Данила-е3п1ф
    @Данила-е3п1ф 10 месяцев назад

    well, in manga hell's paradise battles and dynamic don't go so far from what Mappa created. and even so i hasten to say that show is literally overrated, cause you don't know what in the end or even in middle of story. a lot of this story is just average or worse and in the end it'll transform in fucking postulatopn of faith and dbz power scaling of characters just because.
    and even one big drama about wife and surreal of every fact of life just destroyed. and even relatioship between main characters saying like: "why we exist? why we needed if characters just got what they want? why you wish characters to change through us with course of the story, lol, you stupid? why you don't understand our deep understanding of life and meanings that do nothing, but sounds cool and very chinese?"
    so i think in anime it looks fine for what story can comprehend to tell. but in manga you can catch some juicy frames that looks really cool. some frames on very long and boring story.

  • @sagathekawaiikilla
    @sagathekawaiikilla 10 месяцев назад

    If u got enough time to b* on Twitter about animators how bout y’all get a job, or how bout u animate the series 👀

  • @freshskittles92
    @freshskittles92 10 месяцев назад +1

    Hell's Paradise was good as fuck.

  • @alexonesto6526
    @alexonesto6526 10 месяцев назад

    And I still pirate anime 😎😎💪💪

  • @fdevaa
    @fdevaa 10 месяцев назад

    They should hire more people. I want my weekly episode :)

    • @Lemjanmusic
      @Lemjanmusic 10 месяцев назад

      They dont have time to train new animators I hear due to insane schedule

    • @Tonywizart
      @Tonywizart 10 месяцев назад +1

      You take it for granted, anime is a miracle and blessing, people literally sacrifice their life energy to create it. And here you see it as a weekly normal thing😀

    • @fdevaa
      @fdevaa 10 месяцев назад

      @@Tonywizart I dont. I see it as another entertainment product and they are professionals that have committed to their weekly release plan.

    • @Raiya.Merlyan
      @Raiya.Merlyan 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@Tonywizartit’s been like this for half a century my man. Except for the fact that anime now, is an entire professionally made drawing or painting (bg) unlike back then when a lot of frames were re used and where and it was more simple in general.

  • @jimbojimbo6873
    @jimbojimbo6873 10 месяцев назад

    The meme about being overworked and producing worse quality isnt real

  • @ClavinZKL
    @ClavinZKL 10 месяцев назад

    Nobody expected this to happen when mappa was getting all the major big hitting anime's 🤣 now a lot of anime are in trouble.

  • @poplock174
    @poplock174 11 месяцев назад

    But we all can agree 'one piece ' is pure trash overhyped lowest quantity i have ever seen

    • @Ayeato
      @Ayeato 10 месяцев назад

      No

    • @poplock174
      @poplock174 10 месяцев назад

      @@Ayeato one piece is a scam

    • @nightmare3215
      @nightmare3215 10 месяцев назад

      Nobody will agree buddy

    • @poplock174
      @poplock174 10 месяцев назад

      @nightmare3215 one trash is a scam

    • @watchmehope6560
      @watchmehope6560 9 месяцев назад

      Nice bait. Don't choke on it.

  • @bigknockersOO
    @bigknockersOO 10 месяцев назад

    All CGI animation is trash, 4k filming is overrated and things should go back to how they were in the dragon ball z era of actually drawing the art and not taking short cuts and using technology to do every little thing so viewers can gawk at 30 second sequences and the other 23 1/2 minutes look like Microsoft paint

    • @racool911
      @racool911 10 месяцев назад +1

      If you wanna destroy the anime industry, this is a way to go