Ananda Guruge - What’s the Meaning of Consciousness?
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Only about consciousness can we be 100 percent sure. That consciousness exists almost everyone agrees. What consciousness means-that’s where arguments and disputations arise. Must consciousness have ‘meaning’? Or can consciousness be a random accident, selected by evolution, the ‘foam on the waves’ of brain activity. But consciousness seems so radically vital.
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Ananda Wahihana Palliya Guruge is a Sri Lankan diplomat, buddhist leader, and writer.
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This is by far the most convincing explanation of consciousness for me personally.
Just as the leaf is unique from any other it's still part of the tree, and just as every snow flake forms uniquely from its journey it's still part of the oceans.
Please talk to Swami Sarvapriyananda regarding the Vedantic concepts of Consciousness.
these video clips are like 5 years old
@@bobray77905 years old are much more enlightened than you and me. We have lost it.
Patience and kindness connect and unconnect - the way of Love ❤️
That was one of the best explanations I’ve heard. 🖖
Awakening with awareness of free will.
sorry. no.
In general, Buddhism does not distinguish between awareness and consciousness. The terms are often used interchangeably to refer to the fundamental quality of the mind that is capable of experiencing, knowing, and understanding.
In some Buddhist traditions, however, such as Dzogchen, a distinction is made between awareness and consciousness. In these traditions, awareness (rigpa) is seen as the pure, unconditioned nature of the mind, while consciousness (vijñāna) is seen as the conditioned, projected nature of the mind.
Awareness is thus the fundamental ground of the mind, while consciousness is the way we experience the world. Awareness is like a mirror that reflects the world, while consciousness is like the colors we see in that mirror.
In the West, a distinction is often made between awareness and consciousness. In this view, awareness is seen as the simple perception of the world, while consciousness is seen as the ability to understand and interpret what we perceive. The West is a total beginner when it is about awareness. The reason is, for awareness you need emptyness of consciousness combined with introspection.
Mind is absolutely a wrong associative label here.
The earliest Buddhists did distinguish between awareness ( bodhi) and consciousness (vijnana)
@@danielhopkins296 Yogi to, the path of the yogi, keeping awareness at all stages of sleep even deeper then normal sleep , til nde level, was always done by awareness. consciousness is a state of mostly our cortex and te waking brain. Consciousness is at the top of the pyramid we label as consciousness but is so much more then that.
It is great earliest Buddhist did distinguish this!
Awareness is known by awareness alone.
Be the observer , namaste!
'What is the meaning of consciousness' is certainly an interesting question though. In my mind, it's somewhat misleading since it seems pretty clear that consciousness, or conscious understanding, is the source of meaning or what constitutes meaning, regardless of the rest of one's metaphysics. Not even a materialist can avoid that conclusion as far as I can see.
God is a person who help humans to be pearsons too. If we have not this knowlige, we are only conscience who observe and interpret some limited facts. And if we say that that s all, than wise îs far from US.
Hi C T T, this topic of consciousness is a very interesting one, it concerns something that every animal uses to reduce the variety of experience, by establishing filters to perception that block unwanted inputs we can appear to be able to manage some aspects of our lives. It is one of many properties that all animals share, like the ability to recognise individuals of the same species no matter what the circumstances and at the same time observe that all other species are also distinct from each other but not the same as us!. There may be some physical and biological foundation for these assertions but the fact is that these assertions are made by us all does not have to have any proper foundation, it is just one of the tools in the kit, one of many things we do simply because we can not because we have good reason.
One of the most interesting aspects of awareness is the it ceases altogether at the point of death!, unlike every other 'thing' that we identify as 'real' it does not continue to 'exist'.
For this reason alone I am happy to assert that consciousness does not 'exist' in the same way as all other components of the natural universe. This does not matter of course, apart from the fact that as something of another order it cannot have any direct relationship with any of those real components, it may or may not have 'laws' of its own but they are not the same as the ones we use for describing physical reality. Any explanation of consciousness therefore can only be expressed in different terms, those of emotion, belief and doctrine none of which are subject to reason.
Cheers, Richard.
5:12 despite the transitioning nature of reality, functionality is somehow preserved and directed toward a particular outcome that is also bound to the very same temporal state🤔
"Wander into the center of the circle of wonder, casually mount the sounds and straddle the colors while you transcend listening and surpass watching." ....... Wei wu wei.
Dr Kuhn, you need to avail yourself a better Buddhist scholars, whos are willing to debate and investigate the concept in a more scientific arena,
Buddhism is open to intense scrutiny
Life and Consciousness, is Eternal,
so it cant have any meaning,
it is the Cause-less Cause.
The purpose of our Day-Consciousness,
active thinking, is creation, development and experience.
Tathagata the truth
namely, Paramatthmansa,
one who can use the elements
that oppose and can destroy
each other, Which is the power
of Big Bang and Black Hole
It's the one who can't die.
Nothing can be destroyed
Beyond birth and death,
That is the Gathagata.
correct title: What's the Buddhist concept of consciousness according to Ananda Guruge?
A Buddhist sutta says that every human being has 108 different types of feelings. 36 of these feelings revolve round their past, 36 revolve round the present, and the remaining 36: the 3 times multiplied by the 3 feelings of good, bad, neutral, times the six senses equals 108
the mind needs the cosmos the cosmos does not need a mind ? so cannot be the same ?
_"What’s the Meaning of Consciousness?"_
There is no meaning without consciousness. What use is meaning in the absence of consciousness?
I've listened very carefully, but I still don't understand unconsciousness.
No Language, no hard problem, no meaning!
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At least Christian philosophers that appear in this channel have well established theology and clear arguments for their position.
Trying to understand these Eastern guys is a hard task!
Right 😂😂😂
All religions are equally nonsense and equally harmful for the fate of the species. They all teach the disregarding of this one real life for the pipe dream of living another for eternity.
@@anteodedi8937 I believe it's an objective fact that all the major religions have the same truth as given in the video today. The Hindus and Buddhists seem to say consciousness is the foundation of nature the clearest of all the religions. It seems to me many Christians believe consciousness emerges from matter and God is outside the Universe making a list and checking it twice to find out who's naughty or nice. It might be you misunderstood the speaker today cause I did and had to go back and read the transcript while he was talking. I found I had misunderstood a lot he said. I watched Under the skin the other day and I wouldn't have thought they were speaking English in Scotland if it wasn't for closed captioning. 🙏
Christian philosophers got stuck in metaphors that lost their currency 100s of years ago.
@@anteodedi8937that’s a dumb thing to say.
We grow, our sensors such as hands and eyes and such sense different signals and then grow brain cells in response to reflect signals in patterns creating our thoughts and our identity and everything. We are grown and the conscious is grown as well and that’s why leaving the cave/ understanding and then being responsible for our own free will through those growths and once you learn that then all growths don’t seem good or bad but that flow and why it’s not easy to tell you what the meaning of life is besides these cryptic saying that say life IS what you make it and people don’t understand or think inside this box. Once you see the walls of the cage, do you let them keep you in or do you grow? Our form allows us limited time but a butterfly undergoes transformation and is no longer the same but has its patterns and growths reflected in the new, like how memories stay after sleeping.
Plato's cave is a beautiful example✨
Why not ask the Iroquois how The Great Spirit explains the Universe. Just as relevant.
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This is my take away... It is probably incorrect.
Consciousness is the universe imparting itself on to us, and awareness is our ability to perceive it. Mind is the place where these two meet. But because we are only ever in our mind the understanding of this complementing is to understand that we create our own universe. And the collective actions of all people in a society help to fill your picture of the universe up (learning). Until you reach the highest level of knowledge/understanding of this mind/universe continuum.
I would ask sincerely do monkeys, cat, dogs, lizards, dragon flies and worms also create their own universes? Because their consciousness arose in them through the same evolutionary process as ours. To such a degree, in fact, that we share similar sensory perceptual apparatuses (for touch, taste, smell, sound and sight) and brain features as them, which are the primary features that produce consciousness in living things. Does the universe impart itself on all living things in the way you describe or just homo sapiens?
@@longcastle4863 Are you asking me because my take away seems academic??? Or are you asking me for clarification? I would assume... Because I'm not an authority...
What you ask could be answered in two ways, the Western answer: no.
And the eastern answer: no.
But they arrive by different means. Western understanding would say they lack an upper cognitive function, and do not possess self awareness. I imagine, that the Eastern understanding would say there is no awareness, so the mind is just a vessel for the consciousness part. If you do not have insight into this compliment between universe and body, how could you shape the image of it? Animals are only moved/driven by the energy or input around them, but lacking awareness means no universe building. That's an interpretation, not an understanding...
@@longcastle4863 As far as... consciousness as the universe, acting on the mind, yes. The universe always is, as far as I can tell. And the brain interprets that. Awareness is an elevation above... Again, just my understanding.
A challenge in discussing how the Universe is perceived is that so many words used to discuss it have overlapping or ambiguous meanings like mind and consciousness. Any ten people would probably have 10 different beliefs of what these words mean to them. In conversation it's not as important what we say as it is what people think we say.
It seems there are many different philosophies about how the Universe works specifically which can't be disproven and a many different views which seem just as likely as another like different many worlds philosophies which I am kind of partial to. I do believe that consciousness is the most likely foundation of nature even though I think it's impossible for us to define consciousness very specifically at present.
@@imaginaryuniverse632
I agree. But complex ideas need to exist for the conversation, at the social level, to be useful. I guess my example would be math... I am guessing that complex math isn't a thing most people talk about, but that fact alone does not negate it's usefulness to all of society, understood by the masses or not...
Western philosophy might have trouble defining consciousness materially, but I think the Eastern philosophical interpretation is that, any action/reaction is a small part of the universal consciousness. So even the photoelectric effect, particle interactions, or more generally energy transference of any kind. The universe, as a self referential object, must have some order of consciousness resembling our own biological human consciousness, or we couldn't be imbedded into it....
Western philosophy works on material alone, for the sake of language building, as a shared enterprise, between those who share physical space with one another... It specifically stays away from mystical thought as a brand, not because it doesn't want people to have spirituality... But because language is already so tenuous, and fragile. To expand vocabulary, and reach ever more closely to the universal... Which, to me personally, is important for sharing ideas.
Because while the Eastern philosophy is nice to think about, you can't measure it, there is no language building there, only spiritual/mystical thought. So, to do justice to, trying our best to share these ideas between one another, we need strong, definitions based language to separate individual thoughts, from shareable ideas. Thoughts are ours alone, but ideas live in the space between us. Language is our shared bridge to those ideas... Both philosophies are valid, fire different reasons. One isn't right, or the other wrong. But to understand one another, to be on the same page, we have to share a common language that uses the same definitions.
Ask if human type consciousness leads to guaranteed self-extinction.😢
If we live long enough, we will eventually have a statistic that speaks to what percentage of sentient, conscious, self-aware species actually survive their own technology and overcome their own evolutionary instincts to establish themselves on other planets in other solar systems-thus ensuring their longevity. Having at present only one case to draw from, my guess is that that statistic will be found to be in the single digits.
I think the evidence suggests that the total population of the Universe is always one life appearing as many. 🙏
Disaster.
develop some personal experience rather than just knowing from outside , you are alive to experience all you are searching from outside , you own all this Stuff inside or are you just a Digital Data processor of some Intellectual Beings , using your Processing power the Roopa
White noise. Word salad.
Guys knows conscieusness though mysticism that neurosience proceendings. He shows conscieusness definitions is wortheless neurosience. is he rights when definitions conscieusness? No absolutetly. Neurosience proceendings found out true in this world. Showing conscieusness though religious are It keep out reality.
why phich is lackof in proceendings of conscience :)
All is Brahman.
Demodulation is liberation.
Retroductuon follows the logic of via negativa.
Atman is principle.
What's transitory comes and goes.
Let what comes, come; let what goes, go; take me to where the wind begins.
All of this is the mind.
Do not believe you are the mind.
Realize you are the principle, the immutable.
Realize that you are the koo koo, the nutter.
That’s silly. Just silly.
The meaning of consciousness is hell
I'm the one the world 🌎 is waiting for. I am going to answer every impossible question. He said nothing absolutely nothing. I'm the only one who can answer this question, what is God, anyone. How do I reach Robert Klum, when I get the right people in front of me I am going to stop the world on a dime. You all know nothing, I have the truth, the complete truth. NOAH now our answer is here?
Your mind was so easy to read.
The reason Buddhism teachings cannot be relied upin is beacuse there is no proof that Bhiddah actually taught these things
He didn’t actually. It’s mostly the analysis of later philosophers.
He mentions this in the video...
Transcendent patterns of thought sustain themselves beyond individual minds. That is what a religion or philosophy is striving towards.
@@petermartin5030 It's a good thing we have books now days... Sheesh.