Cobra Aerojet LS vs Taylormade Stealth 2 Plus // Driver Bracket 2023 Semi Finals #2
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- Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
- The Taylormade Stealth 2 plus takes on the Cobra Aerojet LS in the 2nd semi-finals matchup of our 2023 Driver Bracket. Taylormade vs Cobra was last years finals and both drivers are improved from last year. Which driver do you think wins?
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Thanks for watching the video Cobra Aerojet LS vs Taylormade Stealth 2 Plus // Driver Bracket 2023 Semi Finals #2
Would be interesting to see the 2023 bracket winner go head to head with the 2022 winner.
Give the people what they want
Please do this!!
i agree 2023 winner vs 2022 winner
Cobra vs Cobra?!?
2 grams heavier in the heel will move the cobra left more and COULD bring those far right misses in 5 to 10 yards. It won't make you hook it either. Advice from the bleachers! HAHa🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Going to be a monster of a final. I know you had a couple far right with the Cobra, but overall you did hit it better than the stealth. If you look at "East to West" dispersion you were better with the Cobra. I'd rather have a driver I know I'm going to hit on one side of the target line rather than spraying both sides. Gives me better confidence on the tee box. Another great bracket video!!
Is it possible to poop without peeing??……do you really read them all?😂😂
LMFAO! The age old question! I’m no doctor so here’s what google says - “When you do pass stool however, the relaxation of the stronger anal sphincter also decreases tension in the weaker urinary sphincter, allowing urine to pass at the same time. But this isn't always the case - it is possible, but difficult, to do one without doing the other.”
And more left with a Cobra. Problem solved.
End of the day when you look at what the average handicap is of most golfers, its so hard to judge what's best for the "average golfer". With the price point of some of these drivers. Most average golfers aren't replacing their drivers every year. Way to expensive to upgrade all the time. And most of them just care about an extra 4 to 5 yards...before the beers lol. You should reach out to the bob does sports guys! Would love to see a video of you playing against those guys! They are hilarious!
Would love to play with those guys!
There is something to say with the Cobra being consistently to the right. Its predictable. The Taylormade goes both directions which means its unpredictable and thats a bad gamble in golf. In the end, the right club won this match up for you. I will stick with my LTDx LS Tensei White X :) Its predictable and thats what I need the most on the course.
That’s a great word, predictable! I can’t argue with that.
Cobra is the shit for the dough
It'll be interesting how your bracket goes vs TXG. I like how both brackets are calculated in the same way, helps track how these clubs play across different players.
Loving the bracket series, you're killing it!
Great comparison. I'm a great fan of the Cobra Aerojet. Here's a request for you. Please try the new Wilson Dynapower driver against the more expensive. From my testing the new Wilson Dynapower Driver on Trackman I am getting excellent results .. i like 'distance achieved' but the real measure for me is in 'dispersion'. I look forward to seeing your results with the cheaper new Wilson Dynapower driver. Eric.
This is the first video I have seen so not sure entirely how the dispersion works but I would think you should somehow do it not off the centre line but the distance between the farthest right and left . I say this because in my eyes you could just sim the cobra 10 yards left and you know it’s going to fall right as with the Taylormade you don’t know where it’s going. Just an opinion
Biggest plus on the cobra is it took one side out of play for you. Instead of aiming down the middle and losing a few right you could have aimed 10 years left and hit the fairway every time. Can’t say that for the Stealth. Stealth had a 2 way miss.
I think your measurements make sense, and it's nice that year to year, it's consistent, so we can see differences from year to year. When it comes to drivers, the average person is chasing distance, so it makes sense if it's slightly outweighed over dispersion. Personally, on the course, 2,400 or 2,500 rpm is probably where people want to be with the ability to take spin off it if they have a wide open hole and want to let one go.
Awesome video and by far the best with the drivers. You can smash the ball and I think you should show the Good Good boys who the boss is. Can you do another review with some of the 2023 irons? Great content bro 💪🏽💪🏽
Really appreciate that! Yep irons are next!
@@NewNineGolf You’re very welcome!!
You could weigh the balls so that a ball that is not in the fairway penalizes your yardage away from the center of the fairway on a multiplier like 1.5x
Distance should outperform dispersion as it is more important in terms of strokes gained off the tee, I like the formula 👍
Golf is full of personal preferences. There's no possible way to do a tier list of clubs that would work for most, let alone everyone. Take the stealth 2, for example. I've hit it, and it felt terrible to me, but others love it.
Carbon fiber has a break in period 400 hits in softball bats fiber look likes it shatters that’s when it’s broken in
1# Ball Feel, 2# Swing Feel, 3# Tight Dispersion.
Great video once again. Already looking forward to next year! I'll add my 2 cents. When I'm hitting my driver anywhere long and in the fairway is the goal. So, when testing I wouldn't deduct anything for a drive in the fairway. I would deduct a set number for 1 yard or 1st cut, another set number for primary rough, and another set number for OB. IMO, this would be a more real-life test.
That makes sense. I can do that!
Yep - agree with all of that.
Wedges are for accuracy, drivers are built for distance. 😎
Great video as always…I’m a cobra fan so I’m glad it’s advancing! Thanks for the content and hope you and your family are well.
Forgiveness, sound and feel
A driver that is left and right vs a driver that is consistently right.... Ill take the latter
Would love if you included the strike pattern heat map for each driver to see if you had any noticeable strike patterns between the two. You mentioned your smash factor being down with the Stealth which implies off-center contact, but id be curious to see your smash factor compared to the actual strike location on the club face. I have a hunch that you had a very similar strike pattern with both drivers and the Stealths face just isn't as hot as a lot of other drivers this year right off the rack.
I really wish I could pull that data. For what ever reason we can’t get it with the trackman in the bay.
@@NewNineGolf ah, thought that might be the case. Store near me has the same problem. It’s a darker bay so I’ve always thought it might be a lighting issue
Strokes gained is my most important factor. So longer but little more offline is still probably better for strokes gained as long as in play and playable spot.
Such a great series of videos, looking forward to seeing the 2023 WITB!
So... this is just like how good motocross bikes have gotten. They're all amazing. Sure one might be a teensy bit better at turning or straightaways etc. It's basically pick your favorite color (or brand) and go with that. All these drivers can be tweaked to be more more accurate. Pick what you want in the bag. Might be looks or brand name or what have you. If you're happy looking down at the club you'll play better golf.
Totally agree with that!
those 3 Cobra drives that were very far right are just bad swings......so Cobra actually CRUSHED the Stealth
My bad lol
8:29 completely agree bro, accuracy is key imo, its all good hitting 360yd bombs but if you cant keep it on the fairway, you're strokes gained is going to skyrocket and you'll spend more time in the trees than tarzan 😂😂😂
Haha not wrong! 🦍
In my mind it makes sense to take consistency into account with accuracy. Because at then end of the day, if you know your ball is generally going right, you just favor left. To do this you would could just subtract the total dispersion rather than average. (13 yards right and 17 yards left is a 40yd dispersion group) 3 left and 21 left is only 18. Just spitballing.
Awesome job! Great format.
Appreciate the support and the ideas. Thank you!
Brandon, holy crap, you were crushing both drivers! A couple thoughts - add a penalty for OB shots, since in the real world they add strokes to a round. Also, your accuracy rating doesn’t really reflect true dispersion. So, even though the Stealth2 was overall closer to the center line, you had a two way miss and dispersion was far bigger than Cobra. On the course any of us would take a one-way miss over a two way. With Cobra you could just aim left-center and hit the fairway every time. So, I would recommend moving from what you call “accuracy” and rate dispersion instead. Keep up the great work!
That makes sense to me! Really appreciate your insight. Thank you!
I recently went and got fitted for new driver. Going into it I wanted and told the fitter I wanted a paradym or stealth. He came back with paradym, stealth, aerojet, and titleist. After hitting all 4, the titleist and the cobra perform the best. In the end cobra in up edging out the the titleist narrowly. I had no intention of even trying this club out and now it’s in my bag. Don’t be stuck on the brand, try all of them out to see which 1 fits your game. Normally I don’t comment but couldn’t help myself after seeing both the clubs that performed best for me in the finals. Let’s go Aerojet
AMEN! That’s so true. Hit everything.
The cobra dispersion is much more course desired, even though it was “less accurate”. Taylormade was left right center (all over), where cobra was center or right only. If i was playing id take the conra and aim left side of fairway and that dispersion would be money!
If I start hitting big draws on the course with it I’m going to be pissed 😂
Good content but less talking in between shots would make it even better.
Long and gone is NO good. Dispersion is just as important as distance
The videos are great ,keep doing you and always have fun.
You do a great job every time man.
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Thank you 👊🏻
Does everyone hit 350+ bombs now?
I can’t speak for everyone but I’ve never hit it that far consistently.
How u run the brackets seems to be working well(including the accuracy as well as hitting 15 shots instead of 10). I think it could be better taking off the best and the worst shot??
I appreciate that. I tried doing that it the past. Maybe I’ll go back to that.
I'm in the market for a new driver this year and I have been between these two. Glad to see these head to head like this! Going to need to try them both out myself.
You’re going to love them!
I've had both plus g430lst. Cobra stayed in bag. Ping second. Tm distant 3rd. Too inconsistent. I'd consider stealth 2 not plus again
sweet video and good content. I was thinking if you turned off the elevation on trackman, the accuracy would make up a slightly bigger percentage of the score. Of course you'd lose those 360 bombs though 😅
Hmm thanks an interesting point. I haven’t compared accuracy sea level vs elevation. You may have given me a new video idea.
At 3500 feet elevation, no wonder you're hitting 350+ yards. Drop that down to 250 feet like most people on the Eastern Seaboard and let's see your real numbers ;)
Going about 330 at sea level.
@@NewNineGolf Toronto is 251
For about every 1,700 or 1,800 feet of elevation a ball will travel about 5 percent farther. That means that the ball will typically travel about 10 percent farther at this elevation than at sea level, give or take a few yards. Fast forward to the end of my previous head to heads where I hit the ball at sealevel. Pretty sure it was around 330.
@@NewNineGolf that sounds like a guess. Set your elevation at 250 ft and let's see the actual numbers. You're not just getting 20-30 yards at 3500 elevation.
I literally copy and pasted those stats from Google. And I just told you where to find me hitting the driver at sea level.
If I'm honest I think that looks is a deciding factor. If you really enjoy looking at a golf club, now days most drivers are brilliant so if you love the look then 95% of the time someone will be able to make that driver work for you with a quality fitting
I totally agree! Looks matter.
#1 factor is accuracy #2 is sound and feel......all drivers are within yards for distance which comes down to strike location
Like it!
My 2 favorite driver in the finals!!! Played the SZ for 2 seasons, now playing the TSi2, can see an aerojet or a TSR in my future.
You’ll like them both!
Thank you for this video! I’ve been bouncing back and forth between which of these two I wanted to go with. I have to buy a whole new set (my clubs got ruined when my moving truck got hit by a semi) and this just solidified what I’m going to go with.
Enjoy the new stick!
Maybe could fit them all first to the specs that work best for your swing. Only then would we see a true winner, and it’d be much closer. Having to same shaft etc wouldn’t work, as 1 shaft may work for u in 1 head, but not the other. Enjoying your content regardless 👍🏻
We did that ruclips.net/video/BKTOa6YMAzQ/видео.html
I buy cobra aerojet but i have only shit ones 🤣
Feelgivness is a pretty important factor.
Looking for a new driver. Currently using an old TaylorMade super fast burner. What’s a good value known brand driver you recommend?
I did a video - Best drivers under $300. This might help. ruclips.net/video/ndjKJ-SIMyQ/видео.htmlsi=3z2GNLyDKBoSwX8H
Another great video. I actually like your formula for calculating the winner, but I agree I value accuracy over distance (even though distance is still important). Maybe next year you could do a 1.2 multiplier when you look at average distance offline to weight it slightly higher but that's all I can think of.
Rooting for the TSR3 in the final as I just bought one 😅
Appreciate the insight! Finals is a close one!
I'm not gonna buy another driver. I'm not gonna buy another driver. I'm not gonna buy another driver. I'm not gonna buy another driver. I must resist!
😂
what’s in your bag this year for driver? 3:43
really enjoy the bracket videos! My only recommendation would be to use the same shaft for each driver head to really have an even playing field. Just my 2 cents since some stock shafts perform way better than others. For example I love the new ping but need to use a ventus shaft since the stock ping shaft is like 20 yards less for me.
Ya makes sense. I am somewhat limited to mostly stock options. Hopefully I can get more options to keep it consistent as we grow. They should make adapters universal.
Being staffed with COBRA this year has been wild and super fun and I have surprised a lot of people fitting a cobra club to them. Also got to cop some palmtree crew stuff to rep some fresh drip
@GeoffAskew did you get to go out to Carlsbad to do a fitting? I got mine in a few weeks and I can not wait. Also what iron setup did you get put into and what's your handicap?
Honestly it’s as fair as you can get considering everyone is going to hit good and bad shots 🤷🏻♂️ It just comes down to how it feels & looks I guess. Also the videos are good enough on their own without the random pop up half second gifs here and there lol
Thank you. Haha ya trying different things with the editing. Appreciate the compliment and feedback. 🍻
Love this series! Always watch as soon as you upload… what’s the chance we may see a mini driver comparison at some point? The new TM BRNR looks pretty sweet.
Really appreciate that! Once they come in I’ll try to film a review.
Would be interesting to consider cumulative performance as the rounds progress. Great or poor performances in preceding rounds would come into play expanding the data set as the bracket gets into later rounds.
I like that take. Can consider it for sure!
Love your videos. Awesome content presentation and delivery. One question. How did you get your swing seed so fast?
Thank you! I played high level hockey growing up. I think the speed comes from that. I never did any golf “speed training”.
Got the weights for the aerojet and right when i got used to the light weight but i replaced the 3 in the fade spot to the 8 and my ball speed went up by 7mph with my gamer speed so i gotta spend more time with the new weight to used to that. really love the driver
That’s awesome!
Just a suggestion and I'll try to keep this short. For an elimination bracket why not just make it about the longest driver? With you're scoring system it seems like it would make more sense to do like 2 or 3 rounds hitting each driver 10-15 times then ranking them based on their average adjusted score over those total rounds. 🤷🏼
I don’t know if I have that many swing in me 😂
@@NewNineGolf I mean not 2-3 rounds in one day but yeah you'll have to get your cardio up for each round 😂💪🏼🥵
I’ve lost count of how many reviews/comparisons where the Stealth and Stealth 2 drivers achieve their distance through high club head speed, which could be due the slightly longer shaft, but might also be the aerodynamics of the head. But for all that head speed they have a low smash factor, so it isn’t translated into ball speed. Same club head speed here was 3mph less ball speed. That’s a BIG difference, and I highly doubt the extra quarter inch on the shaft is to blame for that. This pattern has been repeated so many times, I actually think TM’s carbonwood era may just be all hype….
Still an impressive driver IMO but I hear where you’re coming from.
@@NewNineGolf yeah, I forgot to add that TM deserve kudos for designing a driver that consistently delivers higher club head speed cos that will get you out there even with a slightly lower smash factor. But can you imagine if it was translated into ball speed!!!??? Wowee… we’d all be really raving about it!
Stealing TXGs "driver bracket"?
At least call it something else 🤣🤣
I wanted to call it a driver review but that was also taken. 😐 So TXG said it was ok.
I think look at from a strokes gained perspective, like Lou Stagner has said many times for amateurs fairway isn't important but keeping it in play is so if you had a grid and it went outside that there would be a penalty for that driver in the head to head if that makes sense. the problem with yards offline is if you hit one 40 yards left and one 40 yards right doesn't that equal things out so although the dispersion is 80yards wide the average offline would be less or am I being stupid
Haha I know what you’re saying. On the trackman yes, that’s how the average is calculate however we don’t use the average from trackman. When we do our math we just use the # offline. We don’t take into account left or right so there isn’t drivers that cancel eachother out.
@@NewNineGolf that's good to know thanks for the reply, even if Taylormade won Cobra would have been the one to go with just aim left side and hitting all fairways way more predictable .
posted 45 seconds ago... watching now... really rooting for the Cobra. Im flying out to Carlsbad for a full bag fitting with cobra in just under 2 weeks. I can not wait... so freaking pumped!
COBRA for the W. The brand as you mentioned has come an insanely long way. The look, the feel, I have been playing cobra for over 20 years (all the way back to the SSI oversized (which is my current setup) so the jump to new clubs will be massive. Though I am playing the LTDx driver currently. When I upgrade to the Aerojet I do believe that 50th anniversary club is coming home with me.
Thanks for supporting the channel! You’re going to have a blast at your fitting. Pumped for you!
When ya gonna have some apparel for sale? Was gonna order a hat but then seen it was $15 for shipping to Mb.
Canada post sucks. We have a big launch dropping soon. Are u subscribed to our email list? Sub to it or message us on the site and we'll let you when new products are live. 🍻
Great job Brandon, loving the channel all the way from Ireland 😊
Thank you! 🙏🏻
The Stealth 2 seemed to be more accurate because if you hit a shot 100 yards left and a shot 100 yards right your average offline is 0 however those 2 shots would be 200 yards apart. What was the standard deviation for offline with both?
We calculated the average offline by adding up how far each shot was offline then dividing it by the number of shots. Ya trackman calculates it how you described so we had to do it manually.
@@NewNineGolf Cool! Thanks!
I just think it’s interesting you only take into account two metrics. Maybe take into account the spin, the ball speed and the other metrics.
Consistency is the most important thing for me. Some drivers I feel like you can put the same exact swing on it, and it behaves substantially different enough that one shot is perfect and the other is in the second cut.
Despite being a pretty big hitter, distance doesn't matter as much as knowing exactly how the club is going to react to me.
i agree 2023 winner vs 2022 winner....cheers from Vulcan Alberta...
Great vid again my friend. Well done Sir👍💪
Thanks John! 👊🏻
COBRA LETS GOOOO
LOVE IT! Just put the Cobra LS in the bag now Brandon.🔥
Sick! How do you like it?
@@NewNineGolf It beat out every single driver for me. Fuji Motore F1 6X installed. longest by 10 yards carry. Straighter too!
Love the videos also the New Nine hoodie is 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Dropping soon on www.NewNineGolf.com 😉
Krank will beat either of these for distance
ruclips.net/video/_Y-r16UmWwU/видео.html
Another great video loving these head to head
Thank you 👊🏻
Awsome swing...
As a guy that’s not really having much of a distance issue (also from Calgary) I find accurate drives/finding fairways trumps an extra 10-15 yards in the rough/hazards. I would agree that distance can definitely help, but finding the short stuff means a lot more to me than smashing one as far as I can. Personally why I’m still gaming the ltdx from last year over the stealth plus I have. Freedoms to stand on a tee and not be scared of one peeling left (or right) helps me in my approach on a course! Thanks for the awesome videos and feedback!
I can relate to that! Where do you play in town?
The man the myth the legend 😏
Let’s goooooo
Great video, what tees are you using? Thank you !
Thanks! Do you mean what that tee is in the video or what I use on course? The tee in the video just these plastic things made for sims. For on course, we have plastic new nine golf tees coming.
@@NewNineGolf my bad, the tees you use for the sims. The range near my house doesn’t allow rubber tees and wooden/plastic tees don’t stay up. Thanks
I’ll be on the lookout for the those plastic tees
I think they're called BirTees. All the sims I go to use those now. Thanks Jesse.
Drivers aside, that hoodie is clean
Dropping soon on www.NewNineGolf.com 😉
@@NewNineGolf I will be copping
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Does the ball carry further in higher elevation? Compared to sea level
Yes for about every 1,700 or 1,800 feet of elevation a ball will travel about 5 percent farther.
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