Hugo vs. Unislab
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A quick comparison between the Grodan Hugo 6" block and the Grodan Unislab. What are the pros and cons of each stonewool product?
I’m not a hydro-grower, but I watch each & every vid you produce. You’ve been missed, glad you’re back.
Have a nice weekend, Everest.
Nobody ever talks about grodan gro cubes! I switched over to them after using hugos and slabs for years. I love how great they work. Its like potted plants but with all the benefits of rockwool. DO A VID ON GRO CUBES EVEREST PLEASE!! LOL
Geofry Masters gro chunks for the win
Great post (as always), I've learned a lot from your channel. One game-changing tip I recently learned with using rockwool cubes is instead of using Unislabs, just buy a cheap piece of felt batting ($10 off eBay shipping included), put it in your tray, then use panda poly film (with squares cut out to drop the cubes into) to cover the entire tray. Flood the tray every 4 hours with just enough to soak the felt, and then your roots will start filling up the entire tray and yields dramatically increase for super cheap. There's a channel called Grow Your Own that explains in much more detail. Cheers!
Hey, I've seen that exact method as well! I believe 4 inch cubes were on top of the felt batting, and they were using an ebb/flow system, the entire root system was covered in thick poly to block out the light. Not sure which would be better the uni-slab vs the felt, most likely the uni-slab, but the felt is pennies in comparison.
If you use uni-slabs, then your entire tray won't fill up with roots if covered. And yeah, you can get felt on eBay or at Joanne Fabrics for a fraction of the cost.
I'm following that exact technique and its fantastic. Momma J is the youtube channel where his videos are uploaded (I believe his other account got deleted)
I dont like to use Rockwool, but loved the video.
I work in 23.000sqm greenhouse and they use compost in peat pots in a NFT to grow spices and salad.
I think the choice of media is always a question of what you grow and how your setup.
Loved the video as always.
Thanks my friend, I'll try one of the slabs out with the Hugo in my next grow in the never ending feno hunt for a Big 1:1..... Keep up the Good Work and Happy Growing.... Peace
Just finishing using a uni slab for the first time and something i didn't like was that it seemed like the slab had trouble getting wet all the way through when pouring through the 4" block that i set on top. The water would run right through (wetting the central column) and then drain out the slits at the bottom before it had time to effectively wet the rest of the uni slab. I'm eager to examine my uni slab after my harvest and inspect my root system, however i suspect it will look very much like yours. Lots of roots grouped at the bottom and not spread throughout the slab. My solution was to cut slits on the top side of the slab towards the edges and then pour a little bit of solution through them to make sure the slab had moisture throughout. I also started pouring excess solution in the dish i had the slab in so the water level was above the bottom slits in hopes that the slab would wick up as much as it needed. With this i had to look out for my nutrients getting to strong because of evaporation, but it was manageable. Maybe I'll try uni slabs again in the future, but I'm going to put my drainage slits half an inch or so from the bottom so when i water a little bit pools there and will be wicked up to wet the entire slab.
Thanks for the video, long time viewer!
Thank you for your knowledge! Gardeners are the best !
Glad your back Everest
Thanks Cartman - sorry about going awol for a month - life sometimes gets on top of me but I love few things more than getting a video uploaded :)
Finally you are back!!
Love the channel!!
Thank you amigos.
everest time!!
cheers bruh, miss the uploads, u have so much knowledge to put out u need to do dailys... lol just kidding
stay frosty
Thanks amigo - as I was explaining to sum CLINT, I'm travelling more these days but hoping to incorporate my travels into the channel and widen the botanical focus a little ;-)
I know just what you should do with some of your chills make a salsa grab one slice of onion one tomato 🍅one tooth of garlic 2 chills and and salt (how much is up to you I add a pinch only ) then fry the whole tomato and the slice of onion and the chills in some olive oil until you see them kinda burnt on the sides that you put against the pan (only 2 sides) and then blend everything
With so much chills you are bound to get the Taco Bell shits, happy shiting
Ps love your videos keep them coming plz
Will you please make a video discussing plant safe plastics? We need your input on the debate of using inexpensive totes vs expensive hydro reservoirs. Thanks!!
I know in a perfect world it would be dope to have food grade PP used, but the equation leechable chemicals divided by the weight of the non food safe PP then divided again by the time it takes to leech (consider how many harvests it will take to get a percent) you'll find that your school water pipes harm you more than using a HDX tote for a RDWC venture
Not to mention the burning plastic in the air from garbage plants or people who light their garbage on fire.... I'm totally behind you on the safety, I've even made this comment before but that's when I didn't know the severity behind the lack of care we have in this world.
Congratulations
Missed you Everest
Thanks buddy :) I hope you don't feel like I've been neglecting you - I'm working on changing things up a bit and that takes its toll!
Everest Fernandez All good man you do you :)
Everest stacks cubes!!! I used to stack two 6" cubes in flower. Never thought to plug the whole on the bottom cube 😬
You are too awesome Everest.
Awesome ,More Video Please we are miss you very soon اورست بهترین است
Grodan is great stuff. New products coming out. Check out Grodan's Precision Growing papers.
You can grow monster plants in hugos...much larger than 3 feet! You just need to water more frequently (as the plant calls for it). You can also use the regular 4" cubes (2.5" tall) on top of the unislabs.
lover your channel!!!
Nice video man keep up the good work have a fantastic grow day hehehe
A laid back vid, love it! I do miss your fast track speech though. So I’ve got 2 Delta 10 that I’m planning on transplanting to unislabs. What would you say the comparable pot size to a 6” grow block and a unislab?
When you grow in 6" blocks start to finish, do they not get a bit top heavy in flower and fall over??? Especially if your not using a trellis net
interesting. Thank you ♥
Any thoughts on stonewool and sustainability? I've read that the high energy cost of producing it makes it one of worst offenders in terms of environmental impact.
Just stack the rockwool blocks in blocks of 8 to 10 they drain way faster that way after submerging them then take the onesnon the bottom restack till they are all dry
Fair enough 🙏
You still using the flo n grow 12pot system?
Question for the host:
Im trying to germinate some mangrove bush seeds i got from down south south. Would you recommend using hydroponic system or soil to grow these mangroves. Also, any recommendations on germinating.
I grow plants with a long tap root so i put it in the 6 inch as soon as the root gets a inch long . Is this a mistake .
i'm a little confused (new to gardening) so you need Delta box on top of a uni-slab? can the delta or ui-slab work on it's own?
Thanks for the help brother!!
Have they figured out a way to avoid huge piles of rock/stone wool in land fills yet?
Great
cheers for that
Cheers mate + hi from Downunder. Been wondering where you have been lately..
New to it all and using coco, looking at swapping media soon though.
You prefer drippers or ebb and flow? Also drain to waste or recirculation.?
fuckusername87 I'm a flood and drain grower my media is coco. I love it , I think it's the best way to go with coco. Look up Vader, his grow is also flood and drain in coco. He's the man at it.
Hey sounds ghetto but can you use house insulation. Like earth wall. To save a few bucks?
I grow cannabis and I use a 6+6 block and set it upon a unislabs, grow is indoors also I feed manually daily. is the 6+6 block and the unislabs enough to run the whole cycle. Thanks Jimmy Miller
HiJimmy, yes this is more than enough. A wide-leaved (smaller root zone) variety can be grown full lifecycle after a 7-10 day veg period in a 4" x 4" rockwool block if correctly irrigated. The volume of rockwool you describe is sufficient for a much longer vegetative cycle for any type of hybrid or narrow-leaved (larger root zone) cultivar. You could try setting a 4" x 4" block on top of the uni slabs - it could give you a little more physical stability.
What is the recommendation for hand watering rockwool
Very informative video Everest. Those root masses were impressively developed on the unislab. What kind of nutrients are you using for root development?
I just used standard three part base hydroponic nutrients-nothing special! Try a little kelp extract if you're looking for a great root stim!
Everest Fernandez Thanks for the info. 😊 I know you use General Hydroponics quite a bit. Have you experimented with competing products such as Advanced Nutrients or Botanicare? (If yes, how did they compare?)
I have to say - all much of a muchness!
Everest Fernandez is that code for "stay tuned...video is in the works" ?
Sundance Kid I’m going to look at CalMag products first, then three part, then two part and then talk about making up your own formulations. Hopefully all this year :)
Just bought floralicius plus and armor sI could you tell me how do you use them ??
Look up general hydroponics feeding schedules and find the schedule your want to use. They have like 7 different kinds.
General Hydroponics is crap
Everest is the man - Absolute bossman!
Actually as a commercial grower i dont use both of them genarally you choose a long stonewool slap + as more high tech your grow is as smaller buffer you want for your stonewool
Thruthermore actully what the grodan qubes are designt for is cannabis i am pretty sure i cant say it with 100% certaincy but the chance is very hight nothing against "cannabis sativa" amazing plant if its for fibers with hemp or medical aplications but you would choose those qubes only because you have diffrent growing plants with diffrent harvest times for example and they are more easy to move around but from a comercial standpoint the long slaps have large advantages
How is the LED bloom lamp test going?
If you’re talking about the one I had above my Chillies in bubble buckets, that was a total disaster, but nothing to do with the light - it was just too warm in my attic in late summer and I couldn’t get temperatures down enough to steer my chillies into flowering and fruiting. I cut them back several times but gave up in the end (I had so many from my plants downstairs) - I intend to repeat the experiment in a better environment and also with significantly more aeration in the buckets. I documented it all and will incorporate the lessons learned into a video soon.
How is it going buddy? Hearing less from you lately.
InnocentPhoto don’t worry - just in my cocoon preparing for re-emergence :)
When’s the spyder review coming
Next video.
do you know of a UK/GB version of the slab? #UnavailableHere
Why not use fabrics pots with soil/peat/Coco and perlite instead of these Rockwool cubes?
Hey Everest is there any way to do upside down hanging Tomatoes hydroponically?!
Do you reuse these things? Replacing them every 70 days is heart breaking
Single use, unfortunately, but all of the stone wool is completely compostable since it's just super heated mineral rock. Makes for a rich, aerated compost.
@MrJre4491 no, it will not breakdown and return to organic matter, but it is a natural rock product like perlite. It's good for aeration in heavy soils. I mix 1 part rockwool & compost in with about 4 parts of my local clay soil.
@MrJre4491 that's a totally fair point. I don't believe hydroponics will ever be 100% kind to the planet, but I do think smart uses and reuses of products can get a grower closer. When it comes to safe and consistent production rockwool is great, but it's not the only option. I would also point out that perlite is a non renewable resource that needs to be mined, the pros and cons of every growing system need to be considered. For example I refuse to grow larger scale indoors; Hybrid greenhouse is the only responsible option.
Nise..
holy cow this is way too much work. i've been doing DWC in 5 gallon buckets for years and i have to work 15 minutes a day to top off reservoirs and 1 hour every sunday to change them. i don't have to buy anything new for each harvest, everything is reusable, and my plants are 7 to 10 ounces each. i don't even use airstones anymore, i just bare hose it.
DWC rules - if you know what you’re doing. Personally NFT is my go-to method which shares many of the same benefits you mention. Still, as far as media go, stonework is king. :)
i do 3 gallon reservoirs, i put regular rocks in the netpots, and i max out around 550ppm. even at such a low ppm, some strains develop mild brown tips on some fan leaves. however, the product has always been top shelf, i got some photos on my instagram LPC84. i wish i could get rid of the brown tips, they occur usually second to fourth week of flower. i've tried everything, and when i make the solution weaker my yield suffers and i still get the mild tip burn. i'm not sure if i need a bigger reservoir or a different nutrient regime, but for now i stick with what is making me tons of money haha. the dispensaries never complain, the brown tip issue is more of a personal thing i want to fix. my environment is not the issue, they occur when it's 70 degrees or 85.
Chris Topher I get the same results with rockwool but no burn or deficiencies at all. I do drain to waste so no worry about res temps or recirculating pythium. Takedown is a breeze and all i use is maxigro ph to 5.5 and keep ppms around 900-1000 and im golden! Check elzabob420 on ig. I pulled 9 lbs off 2500 watts of cmh lights! Rockwool ftw baby!
nice setup dude, i checked it out. you definitely make more money than me haha but you work a lot more too. my flower room is only 12 monster plants, i have 9 strains i keep bonsai mothers of, and i have a veg room to keep things perpetual where clones veg for one month before flower. i don't have to cut many clones or keep many plants vegging to keep my business running, and i don't have to buy anything, i've used the same rocks in the netpots for years and just wash them. when i decided on a grow setup, i was trying to minimize having to buy stuff like rockwool or hydroton and i wanted to have the lowest plant count possible. i can get 5 to 6lb (with five 1000w HPS lights) every 8 weeks with very little effort, but my light bill is also $500 to $700. my way is not the most efficient, but it's very cheap and not much work involved.
Chris Topher hey man as long as your profiting and enjoying life thats all that matters. I have a bit more overhead as far as medium goes but my energy savings are so crazy that it negates all that. I higly suggest u swap those thousands for some 630 cmh fixtures. U will yield probaly 20-30 percent more and save more money on electricity. Efficiency is key in this ever growing and consuming world. Thousands are very enviromentaly unfriendly imo
You sound drunk at 0.25x speed😂😂
he really does aha
Rock wool is not environment friendly
Mate i love your videos but is there any need to talk so fast?
Impossible to understand... fast is better
Thanks for the feedback!
Play it at 1.25X