Humidity 102: Vapor Pressure Deficit - VPD Chart

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  • Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
  • Vapor pressure deficit explained in 5-ish minutes. What is VPD? How do you measure VPD in your grow room? What VPD range is good for propagation, vegetative and flowering? How are relative humidity, leaf temperature and air temperature combined into VPD and which units of pressure are used?
    VPD Online Calculator: opennlabs.com/v...
    VPD Article: www.just4grower...

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  • @Team-gw5uw
    @Team-gw5uw 4 года назад +8

    6 minute video I spent 20+ minutes watching. Very informative with pictures and examples.

    • @Just4Growers
      @Just4Growers  4 года назад +1

      Team 626 Thanks for the feedback amigo.

  • @meyaniboy
    @meyaniboy 7 лет назад +102

    Shout out to all the heavy fruiting annual farmers!!!!!

    • @Just4Growers
      @Just4Growers  7 лет назад +10

      +Solo Herbman Indeed! :)

    • @danielmacdougall8651
      @danielmacdougall8651 7 лет назад +12

      Cheers from Australia, a heavy fruiting annual lover, overgrow the world ! 😎

    • @fuckusername87
      @fuckusername87 5 лет назад +1

      @@danielmacdougall8651 How goes the growing these days mate, soil or?

    • @CC-jy4gr
      @CC-jy4gr 5 лет назад +2

      @John LOVE ME SOME MELONS!!!

    • @fsu3784
      @fsu3784 5 лет назад +1

      🙌🏻

  • @gamercatsz5441
    @gamercatsz5441 6 лет назад +32

    This channel is like my local hydroponics store, it's all about cannabis, without being about cannabis at all. ;) lol But seriously, best info on youtube, well done Everest!

    • @ESSBrew
      @ESSBrew 5 лет назад +7

      What is cannabis?

    • @greenlife1015
      @greenlife1015 4 года назад +1

      cannabis?

    • @Khramps
      @Khramps 3 года назад

      Cannabis ? What are you talking bout

    • @Matias-rn9ff
      @Matias-rn9ff 3 года назад

      I know I'm 2 years late to the party, but I would also like to know what cannabis is.

    • @AnnhilateTheNihilist
      @AnnhilateTheNihilist 2 года назад

      Never heard of it

  • @jordykingstongrows3639
    @jordykingstongrows3639 7 лет назад +7

    love this video. VPD is one of the biggest growing environment factors that get missed out by growers. keep the videos​coming 💯✌

    • @Just4Growers
      @Just4Growers  7 лет назад +1

      +Jordy Kingston Thanks Jordy, glad you enjoyed the video. Took a while to put it together so feedback like this is much appreciated!

  • @jondog9
    @jondog9 7 лет назад +5

    Master grower on your resume. Love the quick humor, need to watch twice. Lol.
    Oh yeah, great info here. Very helpful. Very!

  • @ktgerloff
    @ktgerloff 6 лет назад +5

    I am not a grower, but a biology student. This video is the perfect mixture of succinct and informative, I found it very helpful. Thank you!

    • @Just4Growers
      @Just4Growers  6 лет назад +1

      Thank you Katie, I’m glad you found it useful. Good luck with your studies.

    • @jeangonzalezhidalgo1815
      @jeangonzalezhidalgo1815 2 года назад +1

      I'm a grower and I'm also a biology student!!! Lol these videos are awesome for discussing these great tools. Love and cheers from Costa Rica!!

    • @Just4Growers
      @Just4Growers  10 месяцев назад

      @@jeangonzalezhidalgo1815 I really appreciate that feedback! :) Thank you and hope you and your garden are doing well.

  • @cristiansosa1512
    @cristiansosa1512 12 дней назад

    Thanks so much from another of those annual heavy fruit growers. You made a complex topic sound simple enough to digest in a couple of minutes, amazing skills as a teacher.

  • @surronzak8154
    @surronzak8154 6 лет назад +22

    4:20 just for 420 LOL well done

    • @danj285
      @danj285 4 года назад

      @
      Everest Fernandez
      well played!

  • @jdlitson
    @jdlitson 7 лет назад +31

    +Everest Fernandez I've been subscribed to your chanel for over a year now, and I honestly don't understand why you don't have at least a million subscribers by now. You are like the Elon Musk of growing. Thanks for all the great videos. Much love brother.

    • @Just4Growers
      @Just4Growers  7 лет назад +7

      +jdlitson Thanks first and foremost for subscribing! If I had a million subscribers I think it would freak me out a bit to be honest. Lol. Elon is a very cool cat and many magnitudes wealthier than me but my riches is life, as my blud Nester used to say. Thanks so much for your support. It means a lot that you take the time to message! Have a fantastic day my friend.

    • @peterlane9212
      @peterlane9212 5 лет назад +1

      Because people like me finds he talks too fast and is highly irritating Too much ego

    • @bohaggin5913
      @bohaggin5913 5 лет назад

      It's his asshole voice

    • @chris432t6
      @chris432t6 3 года назад

      I agree, no doubt pro level for home growers. Once i discovered the videos could be slowed down a notch it was a much better pace for my slow growin stoner-ass!

    • @_sunshine_rainbows
      @_sunshine_rainbows 3 года назад

      he talks way too fast. i have to watch at .75

  • @delagdo
    @delagdo 2 года назад +2

    Brill video, thank you so much for this and your calculator 🙏 I have used the calculator previously for years but I've noticed it's disappeared. Looking for it again I found your channel, looking forward to watching more of your well made videos.

  • @syoukhan
    @syoukhan 7 лет назад +9

    I watched a lot of vids and I got to say it: you're the best, finally I got to understand VPD, and it was thanks to you.

    • @Just4Growers
      @Just4Growers  7 лет назад +1

      +Matt Holy Comments like yours make it all worthwhile. Thanks Matt.

    • @syoukhan
      @syoukhan 7 лет назад

      I think I've already said it in another comment but maybe it's important for you to know, few of the main reasons why I love your vids are:
      you manage to say all there is to know in just a few minutes,
      you go straight to the point,
      your explanations are very clear,
      you're FAST,
      and you're funny :)
      If you put all those things together it's obvious why your vids are gold! Best of luck with your grows and your channel!

    • @Just4Growers
      @Just4Growers  7 лет назад +5

      Thanks Matt! Can't be doing with vids that don't get right into it-I am under no illusions that most folks are watching my videos while on the throne. With that in mind, you've got to get in and out in about four or five minutes max before it's time to wipe (or spray, if you're in Asia.) So-looks like I've truly peaked in life. Lol. Seriously-glad you enjoy the vids and know that there are plenty more to come!

    • @syoukhan
      @syoukhan 6 лет назад

      back again. Just refreshing my memory. It's kinda funny but whenever I've got a problem I'm like "hmm, gotta watch some Everest vids". I am sitting on the throne btw, dude you're scary accurate. Lol.

  • @iuliandan01
    @iuliandan01 5 лет назад +2

    Whoah! The views on this video do not reward the effort put into it. Good job author! I can see the work behind.

    • @Just4Growers
      @Just4Growers  5 лет назад

      Thanks Dan. Your feedback is reward enough for me :)

  • @sameerambekar6460
    @sameerambekar6460 2 месяца назад +1

    Very useful, I learnt a new thing to control my plants health and growth! Thanks 🙏

  • @theprinceofliberia6793
    @theprinceofliberia6793 3 года назад +1

    Thanks man. I've noticed that most videos try to confuse us to make themselves look smart i think and make sure to strictly relate to purely scientific terms😂 instead of actually explaining it in practical terms as you did. Thanks a lot I appreciate it.

    • @Just4Growers
      @Just4Growers  3 года назад

      Thanks Pete - a lot of time and effort went into this video - so I am grateful for your message. ✌️

  • @phenosgardenupdate512
    @phenosgardenupdate512 7 лет назад +4

    Just added this to my 'Gold Reference' Playlist. Thank you for explaining VPD in such a great manner. The visuals helped a lot as well. This is one concept that is best taken into account overall in my opinion just based on the science not experience, though that will change. Thanks again for all of the great content as well the awesome calculator.

  • @torktool
    @torktool 6 лет назад +2

    Mr. Fernandez. I really appreciate your excellent videos and thorough explanation of the processes!! May I suggest that you check your VPD spreadsheet. In the drop down, it shows .5 degree cooler when it should be .5 degree warmer. The results for both have the same numbers which makes me believe it's a typo.

  • @michaelcollier8609
    @michaelcollier8609 7 лет назад +1

    Thanks Everest i was waiting for this video.it will be a great help...... after i watch it 3 more times.

  • @rafaelcamarena5351
    @rafaelcamarena5351 3 года назад

    Everest you’re the man.

  • @danielmacdougall8651
    @danielmacdougall8651 7 лет назад +2

    As always, excellent ! Cheers from down under (Australia). A heavy fruiting annual devotee 😳.

    • @Just4Growers
      @Just4Growers  7 лет назад +2

      +Daniel Macdougall Awesome Daniel - hope your heavy fruiting annuals are blooming bountifully! :)

    • @danielmacdougall8651
      @danielmacdougall8651 7 лет назад

      Peace and Love to you and yours Everest.

  • @HHJoshHH
    @HHJoshHH 3 года назад +4

    I absolutely love watching your videos Everest! Concise and fun; exactly the way that botany should be! Bravo bro! 💯😇

    • @Just4Growers
      @Just4Growers  3 года назад +1

      Thanks for sharing that Jahshi. It took a surprising amount of effort to make a video this short. I sure appreciate the encouragement to make more. 😉 thanks again amigo.

    • @HHJoshHH
      @HHJoshHH 3 года назад +2

      @@Just4Growers well I learned how to calculate (or attempt) to calculate VPD from you!!! And more importantly I learned how to take better care of my garden! I know making and editing videos is truly a pursuit in testing the limits of your sanity, but you are the Lilium inter spinas (the Lilly among thorns). 😉❤️💯🤙🏼

  • @goodtogrow7774
    @goodtogrow7774 3 года назад +1

    Glad I'm growing legally! I can't do this math though lol! I'm just trying to figure out what temp and humidity i should be at in early flowering and ended up here more confused than ever lol!!!

  • @hazardsmurf1230
    @hazardsmurf1230 7 лет назад +3

    wow thank you. Now I understand. Going to do a walk though and figure it out now Dank you. Growers Love

    • @Just4Growers
      @Just4Growers  7 лет назад +1

      +HazardSmurf 420 coming right back at ya! :)

  • @robertthrem3382
    @robertthrem3382 3 года назад

    You're quick you could have dragged it on so this time I had enough brains to screenshot your chart thank you

  • @tarquinjanis5918
    @tarquinjanis5918 4 года назад +1

    Beautiful video man

    • @Just4Growers
      @Just4Growers  4 года назад +1

      Thanks Tarquin. I appreciate that!

  • @mo_____2719
    @mo_____2719 4 года назад +3

    That master grower resume is hilarious. I'm glad I paused to read it

  • @GreenGrowSpaces
    @GreenGrowSpaces 7 лет назад

    And I just posted a vid related to this topic YESTERDAY...damn where was this when I was researching, oh well next time you will just have to read my mind a bit better, and sooner! Keep it coming man

  • @jmsfamilyonly
    @jmsfamilyonly 6 лет назад

    Good one Everest. I believe in propagation control 💚

  • @thefarmlife4720
    @thefarmlife4720 7 лет назад +2

    I've been having trouble with your chart and after going through your example I realized that something is wrong with the F conversion. It doesn't correspond to the C at any rate. 25*C -2* leaf temp should correspond to 77*F - 3-4* leaf.
    per your example @ 50%RH you get a 1.23 for 25c-2*; however at 77F -3/4 it shows 16.4/14.5 respectively. Even if it were supposed to be read in mbar (which goes against the key) the VPD range would need to include 12.3. (I think mbar = Kpa*10)
    I hope you find the problem. Trying to read that chart was starting to drive me crazy! I guess it's my fault for trying to use F.

    • @Just4Growers
      @Just4Growers  7 лет назад +1

      Hi TFL. Thanks so much for pointing this out. I've made a "quick fix" by combining both C and F scales (and going up in 0.5 C increments) while I try and figure out what was going wrong with the F setting. It's too hot today for my brain to work very well-but at least it's spewing out the right numbers now. Once again, THANK YOU and sorry for any confusion. I've made the code downloadable here: opennlabs.com/vpd/VPD_calculator.php.zip incase a more seasoned computer programmer out there wants to take a look. :)

  • @jmcasler1512
    @jmcasler1512 7 лет назад +19

    For everyone's benefit, I made a google spreadsheet that you can copy with Everest's formulas:
    docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Tbk0GnRsuCdLHf8UEe7v4PIFP1NGsfOdRxqbSqgj9Tw/edit?usp=sharing

    • @Just4Growers
      @Just4Growers  7 лет назад +2

      +Jm Casler Awesome spreadsheet skills Jm!

    • @vojtator
      @vojtator 7 лет назад +2

      Up with you!

    • @Just4Growers
      @Just4Growers  7 лет назад +1

      nevim neresim what a dude!

    • @vojtator
      @vojtator 7 лет назад +2

      Everest Fernandez Stoke me a clipper!

    • @syoukhan
      @syoukhan 7 лет назад

      thank you for this

  • @vascodawilson
    @vascodawilson 4 года назад +1

    this was an excellent explanation! Thank you

    • @Just4Growers
      @Just4Growers  4 года назад

      Marc Wilson Appreciate the positivity! Glad you found the video useful. ✌️

  • @klonestootrichomes4276
    @klonestootrichomes4276 6 лет назад +1

    Thanks man, needed that.
    Thumbs up 👍

  • @ocgsorchardcitygardensuppl3788
    @ocgsorchardcitygardensuppl3788 7 лет назад +2

    Great content dude! thanks!!!!

    • @Just4Growers
      @Just4Growers  7 лет назад

      +OCGS Orchard City Garden Supply Thanks for watching. Play them in-store sometimes if you need to punish staff :)

  • @mick1963
    @mick1963 7 лет назад +1

    Nice job Everest. Excellent explanation of VPD.

  • @hughoreilly9526
    @hughoreilly9526 2 года назад

    Keep up the info love all the information packed in one video is impressive!

  • @chris432t6
    @chris432t6 3 года назад

    Why were we taught in school that Fahrenheit was air temperature and Celsius was liquid or water temperature? Cannot tell you how frustrating and confusing this has been?
    Cool video regardless.

  • @ramseynubani4362
    @ramseynubani4362 4 года назад

    Great job with this explanation!

  • @raisingjanecannabis4831
    @raisingjanecannabis4831 2 года назад

    Great information 👍🏾

  • @JoshTaylor480
    @JoshTaylor480 5 лет назад +1

    Ok I'm no math wizard and I can follow the formula up to thr .66 part but where did the 4.5 come from next? I am an HVAC controls guy working on a project and I need to calculate the VPD so I can automate the HVAC. I would appreciate if you could reach out to me on this a little so i can use the formulas properly in my programming code

    • @JoshTaylor480
      @JoshTaylor480 5 лет назад

      Oh wait... 10 to the power of 0.6627 is 4.599

  • @DONTSTEPNSNEK507
    @DONTSTEPNSNEK507 3 года назад

    Good for you buddy ! Thumbs up

  • @brunomai3337
    @brunomai3337 3 года назад

    Amazing video

  • @freetickeys
    @freetickeys 5 лет назад

    You're not just a good teacher; you can be hilarious!

  • @danielmacdougall8651
    @danielmacdougall8651 7 лет назад +1

    Love your sense of humour, kind of pythonesque. Cheers !

    • @Just4Growers
      @Just4Growers  7 лет назад +1

      +Daniel Macdougall showing my British roots! :)

  • @gulstan6007
    @gulstan6007 3 года назад

    Brilliant Everest brilliant

  • @growers_choice0076
    @growers_choice0076 2 года назад

    great work

  • @meowmix1569
    @meowmix1569 6 лет назад +1

    So VPD recommendation differ from common humidity recommendations. Is this VPD method superior if one wants to go thru teh hassle?

  • @RobMyself
    @RobMyself 2 месяца назад +1

    Hey Amigo! Back again.
    Quick question: Does VDP matter at night (or lights out)?
    If it's needed for transporation that encourages photosynthesis, then does it really matter when there's no light?
    I'm thinking you'd want fairly the same at lights on as lights off, but when the lights are off, that VDP drops. So I'm thinking ease up on the RH when thoughts are out. Am i correct?
    You might have mentioned this while I was typing haha....
    My new light and controller has incredible versatility and control, so I trigger fan, humidifier, etc. based on a target VDP. Lights on, I've been bullseye spot on, but I'm curious if i need to adjust with lights out.
    Still the best and most informative RUclips growing channel. My only complaint is i wish the was more content! 😁

    • @Just4Growers
      @Just4Growers  2 месяца назад +1

      Does VPD matter at night (or lights out)?
      :
      Yes, Vapor Pressure Deficit (VPD) still matters at night, but its importance shifts. During the day, VPD primarily affects transpiration rates and, consequently, photosynthesis and plant growth. At night, plants do not photosynthesize, but they still respire and transpire, albeit at reduced rates. Proper VPD management at night helps avoid issues like mold, mildew, and other pathogens, which thrive in conditions of high humidity and low airflow.
      If it's needed for transpiration that encourages photosynthesis, then does it really matter when there's no light?
      :
      Even without light, transpiration continues, though at a lower rate. The stomata (pores on the leaves) do not fully close at night, so some water vapor is still lost through transpiration. Maintaining an appropriate VPD at night ensures that plants do not become too stressed and helps maintain overall plant health by preventing excessively high humidity that could promote fungal growth.
      I'm thinking you'd want fairly the same at lights on as lights off, but when the lights are off, that VPD drops. So I'm thinking ease up on the RH when lights are out. Am I correct?
      :
      You are partially correct. While the target VPD may not need to be identical during the day and night, maintaining a balanced VPD at night is still crucial. When the lights go off, the temperature drops, and if the relative humidity (RH) remains high, VPD can drop too low, potentially creating an environment conducive to mold and mildew. To avoid this, it’s advisable to slightly reduce RH at night to maintain an appropriate VPD level.
      Practical Considerations at night:
      Monitor Night Conditions: Use sensors to continuously monitor temperature and humidity at night to maintain appropriate VPD levels.
      Adjust Humidity Control Systems: If your system controls RH, ensure it can adjust for nighttime conditions by lowering humidity slightly when the lights are off.
      Airflow and Ventilation: Ensure good airflow and ventilation to prevent excessive humidity build-up, which can lower VPD too much.

    • @RobMyself
      @RobMyself 2 месяца назад

      @@Just4Growers Thank you for the detailed reply. Got it! You're the best.

    • @RobMyself
      @RobMyself 2 месяца назад

      @@Just4Growers And yes. My control, at the current stage, the VDP is set at 1.12. but I've noticed it fluctuates between .93 to 1.12 with an average temp of 77. So I think I'm right on target. They look super happy so I'm thinking it's working.
      And the air exchange is moving perfectly! Inline fan blowing it out, with passive intake from the bottom. Two fans low and one on the light itself and in oscillating fan between the lights and the tops of the plants.
      It's heaven! 😂

  • @TheAmericanOne
    @TheAmericanOne 7 лет назад

    Your best info to date! One can tell when a plant needs watering if the leaf temp on a given plant is higher than the rest of the plants leaves in the room---

  • @billthebutcher1821
    @billthebutcher1821 Год назад

    Great vid

  • @tprfk
    @tprfk 6 лет назад

    thanks for the very high altitude recipe!

  • @daveaufradern6658
    @daveaufradern6658 7 лет назад

    Dude, you simply rock !

    • @Just4Growers
      @Just4Growers  7 лет назад

      +Dave Müller Awesome, glad you enjoyed the vid - condensed from more than a few years' mmmm'ing and ahhhhh'ing I can assure you! Thanks again for validating my efforts!

  • @paulfun8720
    @paulfun8720 5 лет назад +1

    Who knew there was so much damn math in growing weed. This is more complicated than Euro Asian EC meters for sure man. Where is the damned VPD online calculator tools? Now I am going to have to take a super deep dive into how the formula was derived. This should only take me a year to fully understand.

  • @frodetyholdt5417
    @frodetyholdt5417 4 года назад +1

    Great video! As these parameters have an interdependent relationship one can also look at it the other way and adjust the leaf temperature by changing the humidity. At e.g. 25 oC there are many combinations of leaf temperature and humidity that will give you the same VPD. But, they will not be equal in terms of growth. I guess a delta T of around -2 oC is nice to aim for?
    Also, I am curious on how stable the humidity needs to be controlled. Some humidifiers are really hysteretic and will probably lead to a kind of stomatical yo-yo behavior.

    • @CryptoLogicGaming
      @CryptoLogicGaming 2 года назад

      can you please explain what you mean by oc?
      were you referring to -2 oc as in ambient air temp @ 80-f and Leaf surface temp at 78-f, is that what you mean by the -2 oC and if so why a -2 oc? td?

  • @Pez_Destroyer
    @Pez_Destroyer 6 лет назад +1

    You sir, are amazing!

    • @Just4Growers
      @Just4Growers  6 лет назад

      Gotta lotta love for this video. Thankful for the help I had in making it.

  • @HHJoshHH
    @HHJoshHH 3 года назад +1

    Dammit I love your videos Everest. I wish I could talk to you in person. I have so many questions that are so specific, plus I love to talk gardening and gardens. Sigh. A gardener can dream. 🙂

    • @Just4Growers
      @Just4Growers  3 года назад +1

      Thank you! You are welcome to email me any time amigo: just4growers@gmail.com

    • @HHJoshHH
      @HHJoshHH 3 года назад

      @@Just4Growers just sent you an email! Ty so much Everest! 🌱❤️🌱

  • @OmarAhmed-wj8cj
    @OmarAhmed-wj8cj 7 лет назад +1

    can you do some videos on some budget LEDs

  • @nowy08031984
    @nowy08031984 4 года назад +1

    Do I need to worry about my VPD during lights out? My humidity usually drops then, humidifier in sync with lights. Cheers

  • @JebGardener
    @JebGardener 7 лет назад +10

    But you don't really use those calculations, do you? You just keep it at 76ish with a humidity of 40-60 percent like everyone else right?

    • @Just4Growers
      @Just4Growers  7 лет назад +8

      +Jeb Gardener Thanks for your comment. Quick rules of thumb are handy, especially if you are used to growing a particular species. I often refer to the chart, because the calculations are tricky to do in my head ;) Seriously, the best VPD sensor is your skin and, as such, you can feel it out just by walking into a grow room or greenhouse. As for temperature and humidity ranges, it's species dependent of course and there's the stage in the lifecycle to consider too. 40% RH at 76F is a VPD of 1.49 kPa - fine for some plants in mid-flower but not for freshly rooted cuttings or juvenile plants.

    • @Orholam5
      @Orholam5 3 года назад

      Aim for the highest humidity you can give them. 40 is much too low as the VPD calculation will show you. Most tropicals will not do too well long term

    • @brett2themax
      @brett2themax 3 года назад

      VPD helps regulate how much food the plant can process. If your VPD is too high in seedling or cutting stage, you will see problems because the plant is trying to eat more food than the young roots can provide.

  • @raingo5625
    @raingo5625 Год назад

    does this mean specific nutrient element like Ca is consumed at a fixed rate? its just that VPD affects how much is actually used by the plants? could you please enlighten me on this? 😁 Thank you Everest!

  • @danielmacdougall8651
    @danielmacdougall8651 7 лет назад

    Hey Everest,A question for you, could you increase the dilution of your nutrient solution to combat excessive transpiration ?

    • @Just4Growers
      @Just4Growers  7 лет назад +3

      +Daniel Macdougall Precisely Daniel. I will go into remedial dilution rates in a follow up video. A more dilute nutrient solution helps mitigate the risk of nutrient toxicities when faced with high VPDs. Similarly, growers faced with cool temperatures and low VPDs increase their nutrient strength.

  • @s3cr3ts3rv1c3
    @s3cr3ts3rv1c3 7 лет назад +1

    Thank you so much

  • @PowerScissor
    @PowerScissor 9 месяцев назад

    I'm not a willing grower here. Against my will, my vinyl shed grows mold on all my tools, storage items, etc.
    I've been closely monitoring for the last few weeks all metrics before making changes so I will have actual data to see how my changes effect the numbers.
    What VPD or RH numbers should I concentrate on to keep mold from growing on my stuff over the wet rainy Winter where I live?

  • @tebindyehblack6127
    @tebindyehblack6127 4 года назад +1

    Hello Everest and whoever reads this comment can you please explain how you get the vpsat of 4.5993545385 from 0.6626968882 from The (4.5 number) I can work the rest out and I can workout the first part too (0.66 number) but don't get how you go from the 0.66 to 4.5 someone please help me get my head around this

  • @ZHPBrent
    @ZHPBrent 7 лет назад +1

    Awesome vid @Everest Fernandez!. I'm doing a VPD grow atm on week 5 if anyone wants to see

    • @Just4Growers
      @Just4Growers  7 лет назад +1

      +Cannabis Love Thanks amigo, glad you enjoyed the vid and look forward to tuning in.

    • @ZHPBrent
      @ZHPBrent 7 лет назад

      @Everest Fernandez your channel is my #1 goto for anything grow related. Would be an honor to have someone such as yourself to check out my garden. 👍👍 #growerslove

    • @Just4Growers
      @Just4Growers  7 лет назад +2

      +Cannabis Love subbed.

  • @mohsenaghdam3136
    @mohsenaghdam3136 7 лет назад

    O Jesus you are Einstein of Hydroponic The father of hydroponic❤️❤️❤️❤️👍🏽🤘🏽

  • @mihkel86
    @mihkel86 2 года назад

    What if my leaf temps are much lower than my room temps? For ex. room is +25C, but leafs are +18C

  • @williamkreth
    @williamkreth 3 года назад

    Love it

  • @torktool
    @torktool 7 лет назад

    Mr. Fernandez. What a brilliant video explaining VPD!!!. Super nice work!!!! Could you please suggest any books or tech articles that further explain the history of VPD? Thank you!!!

    • @Just4Growers
      @Just4Growers  7 лет назад

      +Robert Parelli Sr. Thank you for your feedback. For a historical perspective on VPD try starting with a paper from way back in 1936 called "Relative Humidity or Vapor Pressure Deficit" by Donald B. Anderson from the journal of Ecology. To explore the relationship between VPD and photosynthetic efficiency you have to look to more recent publications. A paper in Field Crops Research entitled "Variability in crop radiation-use efficiency associated with vapor-pressure deficit" by Stockle and Kiniry (published in the '90s I believe) is a good starting point. To get into the current millennium's best scientific thinking on the topic try "Analysis of Growth and Water Relations of Tomato Fruits in Relation to Air Vapor Pressure Deficit and Plant Fruit Load" (Guichard,Christian, Leonard, Bertin et al) Journal of Plant Growth Regulation, 2005. Always happy to discuss anything you find in there.

    • @torktool
      @torktool 7 лет назад

      Mr. Fernandez. I am very honored that you would reply to my comment. Thank you sir. looks like some very good reading on VPD. My wife and i would like to fund you. Please reply with the correct protocol to send some funds to you.
      Rob

  • @Darthreloy
    @Darthreloy 7 лет назад

    I have a self watering pot with about 10 gallons of water, then potting soil, then planted are some potato vines. I added some Miracle Grow to the water. I am in Phoenix Arizona and it gets hot as hell. My pots are outside so no way to control the temp or humidity. I have the condition you speak of when too much water is brought up and too much calcium blocks nutrients. In the case where you cannot stop high heat and low humidity, can you change the water chemistry to help?? Like maybe high PH distilled water with only certain nutrients? Suggestions would be helpful. Thanks.

  • @HisHerGrow
    @HisHerGrow 7 лет назад

    great info

  • @luminox138
    @luminox138 3 года назад +1

    Hello, what formula did you use in the equations to obtain the VPD? Any reference from any author?

    • @Just4Growers
      @Just4Growers  Год назад

      Monteith J. L. and Unsworth M. H.(2007). Section 2.1. Gas and water vapor. In: Monteith, J. L. and Unsworth, M. H.(Eds.). Principles of environmental physics. 3rd edition. Academic Press, pp: 440.

  • @cycle03
    @cycle03 2 года назад

    who makes those humidity domes you had on top of the potted plants? nice!

  • @drunkrtard
    @drunkrtard 4 года назад

    Why would you ever find air temp above leaf temp?

  • @michaelj3414
    @michaelj3414 6 лет назад +1

    Wow! That was annoying. Just the facts, Jack. All we want is the facts.

  • @marna1795
    @marna1795 6 лет назад

    Sorry to bother you loved your video just didn’t understand how did you get leaf temperature 0.6626968882 to 4.5993545385 please help. I tried to do everything but couldn’t figure it out thanks

  • @Vondrayfilms
    @Vondrayfilms 3 года назад

    when u divide 172.5 with 260.3 you get 0.6626968882 how did u get this im stuck and really wanna copy this method please help

  • @matrixresetinprogress
    @matrixresetinprogress 4 года назад

    So basically ,keep your environment in check....

  • @EddieEstevez7056
    @EddieEstevez7056 7 лет назад +1

    What should the VPD be for the night cycle? Is it meaningless at night? Or should we just keep it above 0.4?

    • @Just4Growers
      @Just4Growers  7 лет назад +4

      +Eddie Bonet That’s an awesome question Eddie. Thanks for asking. Many plants (not just C4 but C3 species too) transpire at night - I.e. they do not fully close their stomata so some water loss still occurs. Typically 5-15% of daytime water loss rates but sometimes higher. VPDs are typically lower at night because of lower temperatures. So, while it’s not meaningless, I would say just keep your grow room’s air movement going through the night and don’t let humidity spike too high - probably more at risk of low VPD than high VPD at night - 0.4 for propagation / early veg fine day or night. Stomata are almost closed so it’s not such a big deal.

  • @sparkyarreff1917
    @sparkyarreff1917 7 лет назад

    Nice. Thanks!

  • @kennethyoung9032
    @kennethyoung9032 7 лет назад +1

    Wow I just heard about VPD on another chanel didn't know what it was, now I do, thanks. But I don't know what range I should be looking for. (Medical Cannabis)

    • @lexaf7578
      @lexaf7578 7 лет назад

      Kenneth Young did you watch the video?

  • @oscarolivas1806
    @oscarolivas1806 7 лет назад

    yes thanks for the info

  • @rahulsham4014
    @rahulsham4014 5 лет назад +1

    Dude, the link to the VPD chart. is that in relation to the plant I think your talking about.. you know, at 4:20 minutes in... lol

  • @JohnSmith-fi3vx
    @JohnSmith-fi3vx 7 лет назад

    Great video Everest, you're like the Alton Brown of heavily fruiting annuals.
    I run Illumitex LED lights and the manufacturer recommendation is 12-18" above canopy. I have a temp/humidity meter in one of the pots and another mounted on the wall away from the light. The temp under the lights consistently runs about five degrees higher than ambient. I assume I should be using the under the light temp for my VPD calculations?

    • @Just4Growers
      @Just4Growers  7 лет назад

      +John Smith Yes, this is the air that is surrounding your plants and the stuff that is interacting with them in terms of the vapor pressure differential. How do your calculations work out? Feel free to post them up if you want to discuss.

    • @JohnSmith-fi3vx
      @JohnSmith-fi3vx 7 лет назад

      So the long and short of it is my humidity was way too low. I ordered an IR thermometer so I won't know my exact numbers until arrives, but judging by the chart I've been running roughly 20% too dry. I bought a commercial humidifier with an Atlas regulator and have keeping the humidity at the lower range of the VPD chart (assuming a 2 degree difference) and my the leaves look much happier.
      I did want to ask your opinion on another growing practice that's not really related, because I respect your technical approach. When you're germinating your seeds do you start with peat pellets/pods or the paper towel method? And, do you presoak your seeds? I typically soak my seeds for 12 hours, germinate in a paper towel for a few days, then transplant into a jiffy plug. I recently saw a grower claim that the paper towel ripped micro root hairs off the roots when you remove them, and have encountered multiple sources (usually seed sellers) that claim soaking the seeds is somehow damaging because the water lacks enough oxygen and "water logs" the seeds. Cervantes' book is pro soaking, and even advocates using sandpaper in a matchbox to scratch the seed surface pre-soak, and Rosenthal's texts (the ones I've seen) were kind of ambiguous on the topic.
      (My apologies if you've already addressed this in an earlier video and I missed it.)

  • @auditocanarsie7355
    @auditocanarsie7355 5 лет назад

    Where can I find the VPD or humidity & CO2 levels for Kumquat trees or citrus trees while fruiting? Is it 40-45% humidity like you said at 5:00 for most flowering plants at 5:00 or is there a more specific humidity range for flowering /fruiting Kumquat trees?

  • @Eric-dz1we
    @Eric-dz1we 10 месяцев назад

    Is there a nighttime vpd chart?

  • @HIGHGRADECHANNEL
    @HIGHGRADECHANNEL 7 лет назад +6

    Eminem would appreciate your videos señor..😵😵 love your videos man

    • @eirenjoe1513
      @eirenjoe1513 7 лет назад +3

      HIGH GRADE I wonder how many of the viewers are really growing "fruits"

    • @HIGHGRADECHANNEL
      @HIGHGRADECHANNEL 7 лет назад +1

      Bro this dude has a badass pot farm I bet he is just scared

  • @jmof0464
    @jmof0464 7 лет назад

    Hey Everest what is an efficient way to keep both my grow box cool and humid (my humidity is about 30% how Can I make it higher) is small about 1.5 cubic meters I got a fan in it and cfl lights and it still gets over 25 degrees and also how can I make my CO2 level higher with out a tank or a burner

  • @edgarpetrosyan8824
    @edgarpetrosyan8824 7 лет назад

    but wouldnt the IR heat make the leaf hotter than the air, or does the vapor inside the leaf cool it down

  • @jmcasler1512
    @jmcasler1512 7 лет назад

    Everest,
    Is VPD calculated as a single point during the day, single point at night or as a daily running average? Are there acceptable or different ranges between night VPD and day VPD?

  • @Terranscapes
    @Terranscapes 7 лет назад +1

    Excellent info on something I've not heard mentioned elsewhere. Thanks!
    But I have a question: When you are measuring the RH and Temp of the room, do you take that reading under the lights or in the shade/away from the lights? In the shade the temp is lower (no radiant heat from the lights) and has a lower humidity. This seems more accurate for the majority of the plant assuming there hasn't been significant pruning below the canopy and represents the rooms actual measurements.
    But the top of the canopy's RH and Humidity is where the most active growth is occurring. This would seem to support taking measurements there.
    What do you recommend?
    Thanks for another great video!

    • @Terranscapes
      @Terranscapes 7 лет назад

      Hmm... Perhaps with enough circulation the difference becomes negligible?

    • @Terranscapes
      @Terranscapes 7 лет назад

      oops. I meant in the shade there is a 'higher' humidity.

    • @Just4Growers
      @Just4Growers  7 лет назад

      +Terranscapes Thanks for the awesome questions Terranscapes. You're really getting to the nuts and bolts of it. Measuring room RH and temp - find a large leaf on or near to the canopy and use it to shade your temperature probe. RH can be taken from anywhere in the room / tent as you should be circulating the air with an oscillating fan.

    • @Terranscapes
      @Terranscapes 7 лет назад

      Thanks for the reply. I just started some seedlings and didn't have a fan running. :( Got one going now so humidity should be uniform. The leaf shade is perfect! Will do. :)

    • @CottonBoxer
      @CottonBoxer 6 лет назад

      mainly because if ur humidity is in good range, and your grow temps are also good, the rest will take care of itself with the plants responding accordingly. VPD is a way to go into more detail than most growers need but can still be used to dial in a strain if you're looking to have optimum conditions growing for cash or connoisseur stash. obviously experience,/roper methods/genetics done right has grown bomb plants and always will. but nothing wrong with doing. it better if it matters to someone.
      i liked the video. yet, with that said i was told when i used to grow not to baby my plants and to keep it simple. best advice i ever got and works wonders for plants as well as living life too.

  • @andyhang3545
    @andyhang3545 7 лет назад

    Best video on VPD by far! Thank you ! Quick question, measuring kPa instead of millibars gives you a more accurate VPD reading for plants right?

    • @Just4Growers
      @Just4Growers  7 лет назад +1

      +Andy Hang Thanks. No, kPa is just millibars / 10. It's just a matter of preference which unit you use.

  • @adrianpoe4416
    @adrianpoe4416 2 года назад

    I have had an Albo Monstera for a 8 months. In two weeks it’s started browning. Roots look great. I water sparingly every few weeks. Great growth even in winter new leaves. I’m trying to learn about VPD as it relates to browning. I can assume lower temps in winter (73 south fl indoors) are to blame with humidity still at 50%? ZERO info for tropical other than cannabis for VPD levels. Seems that my plant can’t guttate and maybe the stomata gets overloaded trying to release the excess water and it browns. Can someone help me understand this a bit better? I do have a govee meter I bought to measure and keep tabs on temp, humidity, dew pt and VPD.

    • @Just4Growers
      @Just4Growers  2 года назад

      Hi Adrian, your air temperature is fine. Albos hate low humidity. You should spray with water regularly. I also suggest watering with distilled water, rather than municipal tap water.

  • @meefvongrau9814
    @meefvongrau9814 5 месяцев назад

    0:40 how do you call this?

  • @getlost3094
    @getlost3094 4 года назад

    If your leaf temp is higher than room temp could be your room temp too low as well. Not just lights too close ;)

  • @tomtreecutter1586
    @tomtreecutter1586 5 лет назад

    So if I am at about 6000 ft above sea level where do I want my VPD numbers at?

  • @miguelsalazarmob
    @miguelsalazarmob 5 лет назад

    Which brand do you recommend for that leaf temperature tester ?? Thanks 🙏🏼

  • @therootandvein
    @therootandvein 2 года назад

    New viewer here. I grow rare aroids and have just built my greenhouse. I have a smart sensor that checks vpd with the option of doing it without leaf pressure deficiency and that's what I've been going by trying to learn this stuff. Right now my temp is 85, humidity 63 and my vpd is 1.52. The vpd is not good but the temp and humidity seem fine? Any advice? I don't see how it's possible to always check the leaf temps to keep this in check:(

  • @kornshadow097
    @kornshadow097 Год назад

    .. What?
    So why would I use vpd instead of just using heat and humidity?
    Seems easier to just set a temp target and humidity target and that's it...
    Why use vpd?

    • @Just4Growers
      @Just4Growers  Год назад

      Both approaches work. The advantage of VPD is that it combines air temperature, leaf temperature and relative humidity into one unit of 'pressure'.

  • @oOKenduOo
    @oOKenduOo 5 лет назад

    Where can I buy that Infrared Thermometer? I dont really find anything suitable online, only for cooking and stuff but not for plants :D
    Great vid btw!

  • @jamesmcmillan2656
    @jamesmcmillan2656 4 года назад

    Does adding co2 change the vpd ?

  • @x5il3ntkilll3rx4
    @x5il3ntkilll3rx4 7 лет назад

    i love the content keep the great information coming :)