The End of The Guitar Effects Battle?
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- Опубликовано: 17 янв 2024
- We're in a multi-effects arms race! Is this the end? This is Hotone's Ampero II Stage triple core effects processor... it can do guitar, bass, synth.... AND VOCAL processing! If you play and sing at the same time... what more do you need? And how does it compare to the other Hotone units, like the Ampero One or the Ampero MP-100?
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That custom tone you crafted is the shit bro. I'm just learning how to play at the young age of 65. You are a large part of what inspired me to want to learn.
Awesome! Thank you!
Yeah I'm 52 and noodle around. I'll never rock mainly because all my hair fell out and suffer from old man body. Maybe you could do a video on how to be a roadie for Motley Crue cover band. Do I need a old sleeveless jean jacket and or grey beard with possums living in it? Should I take up smoking? These questions haunt me.
Dude, welcome to the club of 65 year old guitar players.🤘👍👏💥💯🎸😎
I'm 63... And that tone is indeed The Bomb! How was the feeling in the fingers though?
I'm 65 & I've been watching Max since he was knee high to a grasshopper 🦗.... LOL 😂
I love the fact that there is no expression pedal built in. It would unnecessarily increase the size and the price of the board for those who do not need one. Those who do want or need it can easily add it.
If they wouldn't give one to everyone with a RUclips channel then have to recover their losses for marketing imagine what the cost would be for any one who wanted one
I just got a Headrush MX5 for Xmas 🎄 and I love it! Has a nice touch screen for changing all signal patches and it’s small and compact ✌🏽👍🏽🤘🏽
I had the original Headrush and I kinda hated it, recently got the MX5 and I sold my my AxeFx immediately. What a difference a few years makes.
@@tommyibanez3958
You sold your AxeFx for a headrush? Wow
Id like 2 try the Hotone but I love My MX5 & like he said the pedal is really a necessary evil on a multi-efx.
I'm still happy with the helix rack, especially considering how many updates it's had.
I started becoming drawn to music around 1964. Folk Music was a thing and I started enjoying singing along with the albums I played. I now play Karaoke titles from RUclips for singing practice at age 71. My guitar playing was was on a silvertone electric guitar and now it's on a Stratocaster or my acoustic Martin. My first pedal was a Big Muff Pi, but fuzz no more (I don't want fuzz anymore). I like all the ambient sounds and a touch of overdrive too. This looks like a good Multi-effects pedal. Your custom preset is killer!
I love the idea that aliens are sitting around watching humans playing guitars and thinking "morons, we should do something to help them rock out." 🤣🤣
Im convinced they are!
Check out "Legend of Black Heaven" some time 😉
You've seen the length of the aliens fingers, imagine the reach they have.
@@5yearsout Well look vai,,yikes
@@5yearsout- Jimi Hendrix?
I've had the Hotone Stage for a little over a week and it's amazing. The Reverbs and Delays are great. I've probably only gotten into 10% of what this thing can do. One thing I'm loving so far is plugging in my PRS Custom 24 Piezo into Both Inputs... and using the Parallel template and putting different effects on each input. So in other words you can put Delay, Reverb effects on the Piezo pickup and also whatever effects you want on your Magnetic pickups for some really creative sounds. It's a lot of fun. I also like the Looper having UNDO/REDO and the drum machine for jamming and practicing. I seem to get more creative with guitar riffs if I have a Drum beat going first. Hotone hit a Home Run here. And I'd get the Hotone Soul Press II pedal over this new Ampero II Press. The Soul Press II is a 3 in 1 pedal that can be a Wah,/Volume(or both) and an Expression pedal. It's a better bang for the buck. Overall the Ampero II is giving you a lot for the money. I've tried Muti Effects 2-3X more expensive and I'd take the Stage over them. It's all subjective really and really depends on what you're looking for in this type of effects unit... but if $$$ isn't the issue... pay up for the Stage over the cheaper Effects Processors/Modelers out there. You won't be disappointed
Even the Hotone Stomp was a home run, often being mentioned with the big dogs on tone. Great products.
You need to make a video about the Ampero Mini with not only focusing on what it can do, but how it’s so versatile and friendly on custom pedal boards playing well with other pedal effects and set ups.
PLEASE BE AWARE BEFORE BUYING A HOTONE AMPERO II STAGE:
1. MIDI OUT is not working (yet). I contacted Hotone about this but they can't confirm if this 'feature' will be fixed anywhere in 2024.
2. You cannot RENAME Scenes to 'Intro', 'Chorus' etc. It will just be 'Scene 1', 'Scene 2', etc.
3. When only using the left XLR output the Stage isn’t outputting a mono signal, but just the left channel of the stereo signal instead (if you have a stereo chain).
Just so you know.
Issue 1 and 2 have been fixed in firmware update V1.1.0 as beginning Juky '24
I recently got a Donner Arena and was amazed at the tone just thru studio monitors. I had a rack unit Behringer Vamp, which died but they do not make rack units anymore in favor of these little pedals.
The donner arena is a pretty good unit.
I'm only halfway through the video and I can already tell how good this thing is by how much fun you are having playing it.
I bought a Headrush Prime three months ago. It has a mic input, too. I love that board, it's amazing.
One thing that I am missing on those small units is an expression pedal.
The matching expression pedal option is cool. I just want it to bolt right on with a screw.
The great thing about all your videos @Guitar Max is the playing. It’s real, tasty, and highly entertaining. Thank you for years of information, education, and entertainment.
He makes any guitar and gear sound great haha
happy new year Grinch
I swear I saw flames come out of your fingertips on that intro 🔥🔥
I think it sounds great. The price point is good, it is feature packed, just the right size for floor and desktop use. Has the thick, rich sound of a Fractal Modeler, and an excellent UI and Desktop Librarian/Editor, 8x8 USB audio functionality and variable sampling rates from 44.1kHz to 192kHz. It looks like they really listened to what Users want and need.
Regarding it not having a built in Expression Pedal, for those who want to us it as a desktop unit, having a separate Pedal makes a lot of sense, and that's the way I use my HX Stomp. Hotone did a great job, and the unit has just about everything one would want.
Nice jam, dude. Enjoyed it. That personal metal voice you made was pretty blistery too.
Separate chain for vocal is exactly what Line6 X3 guitar processor had a lot of years before. But tone of guitar effects sounds incredible for me. Thank you for a review of the unit.
indeed - I still have one in my "home" rack - stood the test of time quite well, but, obviously, newer units have much more processing power. As older I get, the less effects I prefer, so not much of an issue here...
Cheers man,your time and info shared greatly appreciated bro,
What an headache setting up/spending money to find the right effect without crazy feedback specially when playing leads.
Steve from the rainy city Vancouver,Canada
I sing and play, how about more info and demo of use with a microphone.
thanks for the review. For the older ampero II stomp users the major problem with this new unit is that a lot of its features were missed promised updates for the II Stomp. Those "future updates" were never delivered. Ampero II Stomp are waiting for scenes and gapless transitions effects for more than an year now. The terrible stomp mode switch that terrifies everybody that use the unit to play live are also a promised fix.
Both units share the same DSP power but Hotone support was really bad and never delivered what is being promised.
Erm the Boss GX 100 is simple and great sounding. From a dynamics standpoint one the best I've played.
And it connects wirelessly via Bluetooth to its Editor app on my iPad so I don’t need to vent bend down to fiddle with the touchscreen. I have the Ampero II Stomp on my main pedalboard and the GX-100 in my bedroom.
Awesome video and congratulations on surpassing 200k subs. \m/
Thanks a ton!
First, I always enjoy your videos because you provide room for the cost conscious consumer to see what is out there that won't break their bank. Next, your point on the dual nature of this unit is the key distinctive. I own, and am very happy with, a Headrush Pedalboard. That is because I am not a singer. But, this unit is a game changer to those you cited in the singer songwriter types. Where you are making a single unit to travel with that can manage both functions is a value. That said, I would have liked to see you tackle that topic more as there are tons of boards that offer high gain distortions. It all has become sort of white noise at this point of the journey. But, if you can offer even the most basic demo of how this unit solves the singer songwriter need, I think this would be a great value to that customer. Cheers! Keep on doing the great work you do out there!
11:45 you are wrong, Yellow Drive - Boss OD-1, Super Drive - Boss SD-1 :)
Badass intro solo!
I just bought one, and honestly, I am glad it doesn't have a built-in expression pedal. It has 2 x 1/4' jacks for expression pedals and/or eternal switches so it's more flexible and the tiny onboard expression pedals on units this size usually have a very short travel and don't work terribly well. I use my Fractal expression pedal with this and it's great
I have an HM Strat, but I oiled the neck and had it scalloped! Now it's toast! At the time I didn't realize that you don't put fret board oil on a maple neck! Live and learn! 🤪
I cant believe Ive been playing since the 90s and just now seeing one for the first time. Its right up my alley, Id love to play one.
Oh no! What did it do? Did it just ruin the color or do something worse? Sorry about that
It just saturated the neck wood with oil...@@judgegroovyman
Love the P-38! I have one exactly like it in my studio, homage to WW2 heroes.
The thing about multi fx is...when the change in between presets, will there some micro or milli seconds of jerkiness? How about this one? Or are they using some sort like snapshots? Also will the previous effect bleed into next preset lke the delay & reverb tails?
That is my number 1 concern with multi-effect pedals, and you don't know until you use it in real time.
I have this unit, one of the best features is seamless changes. Incredible.
Great! thanks for the info, I'll probably pick one up.@@legendarychillmonroe6234
I have their complete line of the small pedals and they are so good. Great Box.
I own real amps and have owned many modelers. Today, I put the Friedman IRX preamp into a Fender TMP loop. Sounded pretty good! The distortion/OD from any modeler still makes me chase tone all day to try and get em to sound real, whereas when I put some pedals in front of 1 or 2 real tube amps = glorius! I like the way the AMPERO is layed out though.
Battle is still on, but real amps never enlisted....didn't have to.
I have a line6 amplifi fx100 that does everything this does plus more,its bluetooth and app for editing with 1000s of settings via their online data base .cost me £75 used
I think I’m gonna get it, I love making things and plugging keyboards in and adjusting stuff. I think I will buy it and stick my guitar in record some stuff. Thank you so much for sharing this
I'm still madly in love with the Zoom G.2tt..It's got tubes and is only about 380 with two pedals built in. the smaller one has some John 5 related " pr " points.
"Toobs"
Those are killer. Rock on!
AWESOME... still enjoy my tube amps Max!!!!
"...That way if one of your band members, while you're performing, comes over and they're like, 'Hey, look at all the pretty lights! Oh, let me just change all these!' they're not gonna mess up any of your settings."
I'm reminded of the words of Ian Faith, Spinal Tap's manager, regarding the cricket bat he habitually carried: "...To be quite frank with you, it's come in useful in a couple of situations. Certainly in the topsy-turvy world of heavy rock, having a good solid piece of wood in your hands is quite often, mm, _useful."_
You had me at:
"pedal board from aliens"🤟
Great review as always!
Still better price than a Kemper or Quad cortex. I know those are way more powerfull but this is still an awesome budget option. Analog pedals are still expensive...
Really liking the Hotone ampero stuff
Same processing as the A2S (Ampero Stomp) which could have scenes with a firmware update. It's a great unit to be sure. But I really love my A2S.
Wow Max !!! What an intro. You definitely have progress in the past year. Cheers
Thanks a ton!
Finally a review for this!
Thanks so much for the info about the MP-100.
I love this unit. I hope to get one very soon.
Hotone, the tone that gets the hos
j/k they've been crushing it for a while now...
Lol it all makes sense now!
I love these things, but they give me option anxiety. I end up going down the rabbit hole every time.
I totally understand!
Great demo. Would love to see this and the Kemper Profiler Player in a comparison video. Both are around the same price. Which one would you choose?
I choosed the Ampero Stage! The Kemper sounded like a "picture" of the Amp but has still his own sound underneath in a kind of Mid-Honkiness i didn't like (where the ToneX has kind of a certain Bass-Sound underneath all Captures).
Oh man I must check this pedal out. Thanks 🙏 for the great review
Great video Max. I've got a ampero mini with some custom tones made up. You're 100% right, the control they give you for an expression pedal..it should be included. The mini was my pick based on what I do, and I had the expression pedal before I picked up the mini. Its a huge game changer with the amount of flexibility it gives you for crafting something to your likings. That vocal signal chain has been done on others, but they have always been very limited with what they offer. This doesn't seem to run into the problems like the line6 and boss units had in the past(I know first hand).And I tested some others out too. Hotone are definitely staying a step Infront of the others with the ampero line.
Also killer tone btw. I was surprised on the gain level at first, then you said you used the od pedal too..makes total sense for boost.
Excellent review. Dig the P-38 Lightning model behind you.
⭐️⭐️ Dang MAX! It feels like my Neural DSP rig is totally an ancient relic from a time so long ago it was a stroke of luck that we even had reading and writing back then… you know.. like 2 years ago. Ancient.
This stuff is moving so fast!
You made a KILLER tone that really sounds damn proper for what you set out to get.
You should make some more Blues patches because you’re really good at it.. like, a lot better than you think you are.
That may or may not be the focus of much of your playing, but you are really seriously good at constructing the rigs to get the extremely good tones for it.
So, if you are feeling really generous sometime.. maybe you could make a few of those and share them with us peasants.
As always, thanks for everything you do!
🤘😎🤘
The quad cortex is better than this, dude.
Henning called this "Quad Cortex's Little Brother." Even though there's not a lot going on for the Quad Cortex, it sort of wins because it may not sound the best based on some opinions, but it has the most intuitive interface. You can learn how to use without reading the manual and even with the editor software, you can build tones on the pedal itself faster.
I had an Ampero II Stomp which I sold recently. Tones are amazing but I need some added convenience thru snapshots/scenes. I think this is the chosen one.
How is it different from the Headrush Prime, other than size?
I really like your videos. Fantastic tones and great playing. Would love to have heard a singer through the vocal section. I've got a Pod Go and love that it has the built-in expression pedal. For recording I've got AmpliTube 5, and it's just incredible. Best of luck with your channel!
Oh Yeah? I'm still waiting for a decent Kazoo modeler but I don't see anyone delivering just yet. How am I supposed to be "blowing the Roof off" without that?
If you choose Line6 as your guitar effects processing brand, you have to go with a full blown Helix to get vocal processing. The HX Stomp, Helix LT, and POD GO don’t have vocal processing. Fender’s new Tone Master Pro also has vocal processing, but it hasn’t been around long enough for Fender to start creating cheaper alternatives. That means you’ll have to drop $1600 to get both vocal and guitar processing in a single unit, but now the Hotone Ampero provides that cheaper alternative that I’ve been looking for. However, the one thing you failed to cover is whether or not it has a tone library where you can download patches.
I like how "triple core" is a huge marketing thing for them as if the phone in your pocket doesn't have 8 cores.
This is a very good point
Some of the new modelers have 4/8 cores…. It’s like bragging about your 6 cylinder Mustang
Very awesome
Gets tech from the future... makes tone from 1979 😎👍
Sorry, I cant watch anymore. Im 4 minutes in and youTube has run 2 sets of 2 minute long ads and starting a 3rd . Thats Crazy. and we have nowhere to complain except to the content creators which Im sure you have no part of. This is just really weird an upsetting
Sorry, he's absolutely got control over the ads that roll and how hard.
Sign up for Google Premium, no ads...
Now I'm dieing to know! Which is it?@@ImageTwoImage
We have sanctions here in Russia and we do not watch ads for more than 2 years😅😅
RUclips premium is worth it tbh
Great info! I’m curious what amp (the actual amp. Not the modulated one) you’re using for this demo and how the settings for that amp are set.
I’m also curious how you send it to the youtube channel.
21:30 i do. I’m curious how that sounds. Maybe you can demo that or provide a link or something? Thanks in advance 🙏🏻
Thank You Max ! 🙂
Great Video, Detail.
Awesome demo
+1 for the Sagan 'Contact" ref!!! 🤘😝 Awesome shred tone!
Kind of expensive but it looks like it has a lot of capabilities. So maybe worth the price if you need the “full boat” of effects. Especially if you need vocal effects processing as well seems it might be just the thing to get it done!
could you elaborate on the vocal processing? I've searched for what's included and can't seem to find anything. Is there an autotune, harmony, doubler? I have the Headrush core, and while it's amazing, the vocal processing is lacking.
Does the HR Core not have harmonies or delay/reverb for the vocals? What don't you like about it?
@@jeanandresmusic delay/reverb are ok. Anything that's intended to track the guitar signal does not. Harmonies and Autotune are not great. Out of the box, you can also only split the signal in half, giving 7 blocks for vocal, but then limiting the guitar chain to only 7 blocks as well.
Brake rocks? Ulta sound,to move inner frequency amp. To transmit ore device.
Well damn, Max, that was killer! If I can ever play half that well, I'll call myself good!
Thanks!
This is what I have been asking for!
Cool sound and lovely the P-38 behind you.
The can of Tab on the shelf gets me every time. lol
Many thanks!
Love the strat! I want a pink one like it.
Perfect presentation
Ive been waiting for this review. Lol
Awesome. 🤘
Rule of thumb: If a RUclipsr refers to a product as being a "gamechanger" then, it's obsolescence clock is already ticking.
That probably sounded cool in your head.
@@RDB93 😂
That is a hefty price tag. My guess is Hotone had to spend a ton learning to make a vocal processor and they thought they'd tap into a niche market of vocal processors... To me, I'd want to keep those things separate, because there is nearly no chance my taste in vocal processor units and effects units would both prefer the same brand.
Great stuff and I must say… excellent fashion choice Max! 😂 🙏🤘🏻
Gotta represent the shred!
Cool video Maxx. Your tone you created sounded great 👍. The unit was cool with a lot of features and options but I agree it should just come with the pedal. I'm still debating the price though.
Love the channel. Keep up the great work.
Thank you 🙏
the build quality is very similar to the Kemper stage. and the sounds are really good for the price im impressed.
😲🤯😍Beast! I want this processor!💥
I'm waiting for it to go down in price. From the sounds of it - they promised scenes support on the stomp and then only gave it to the stage. Kinda makes me nervous about supporting Hotone because software support is a big deal for modelers.
Yes, but is the DSP capable to run two seperate guitar rigs: 2 seperate chains (6 blocks in each as far as I understood) with 2 drives, amps, cabs and a few other effects?
would you recommend this one for FLUTE ?
I want a good processor for my flute performance !
I think, that lowering the price by separating expression pedal is nice. Not everyone use this. It also gives posibility to place expression pedal enywhere you want on the flor or option to buy bigger one if that's what you prefer (so you have dedicated pedal aligned with your needs and smaller milti-effect unit instead of 2 pedals while you use only one of them.
Build-in expression pedals in units like this are typically very small and with litle movement range, this doesn't make them the best hardware. You can always buy super cheap one and connect it, there are even compact ones on the market.
Hi Max, does this unit can be setup for 1 button looper while the other foot switches are dedicated to random effects I want to put there? And can I stop the loop with only one touch or it follows the terrible trend that u need 2 quick touch to stop ur loop? Tks!
Good day, Max.
Thank you for the excellent introduction of this Hotone Multi-Effects pedal processor.
I have a question, is it able to drop the tone?
I have a few songs to practice which have half drop tuning, and I am wondering if this Hotone is able to do it digitally.
All the best,
Roberto
The hollow body sounds like a tube amplifier and some other pre sets do too.
Like the headrush core, does this has an auto tune on the vocal/mic section?
Auto tune is a brand belonging to the same matrix company as Headrush does, so I would very much doubt so. But I would be interested as hell on a shootout of these two units. Particularly for vocal processing capabilities!
Is there any pitch correction features on the vocals with the hotone antero ll stage?
One more candidate screaming for help:
Less is more
Hey, I'm 68 with atonal neuropathy. I have a a pedal board with 12 boss/mad professor. Etc. Pedals, it cumbersome and not DI friendly, have been looking into this Ampero, my problem is the tweaking of gear like this, I have limited dexterity and patience, are the presets usable out of the box, I prefer subtle Gilmour, Vai, type of dpacial sounds and want to go firect to computer or play silently, I value your opinion, would like your help
Is the vocal processing the only difference?
Can we make your tone with the MP-100?
I love ampero, but ampero 2 it's absoluty amazing, I'll buy the mine ampero 2 soon, excellent video, greetings from mexico
4:34 Holy cow & wow. The only tone you would ever want.
Thats very nice, im a plug in and play off the shelf person, i do have some effects like a built in spring reverb and push the amp for gain overdrive and occasionaly use flanger and chorus, but are we going too far with effects as they can hide mistakes behind the noise? effects should be used to colour not mask natural tone, i think one would be a better player to stay relatively simple, just my opinion.
That clean neck pickup sounds amazing, quiet and clear. What brand is that? JBE?
Brutus said yinz missed the gateway. It's litty tube amps recorded to tape!
I really like Ampero pedals but I really like the all in one with pedal Ampero
that tone sounded really good to me a lot like evh eruption. definitely doesn't sound like a bad deal if your like me that sings, and plays. effects for both can get really expensive. might have to look it to that, instead of plug ins on my vocals. thats for the great video on it.