Good video. An easier option would have been to top-mount the fan. Start by centering the fan and putting in two screws to hold it in place. Mark the cut-outs for the tabs and inside flange cut lines (to the inside edge of the existing fan). Lastly, drill pilot holes for the final mounting screws which will be from the bottom up, first through the new vent cover then into the fan flange. This allows removal from the room-side if there is no access from above. Remove the temp screws, add the foam gasket and screw it from the bottom up. Instead of the gasket,duct sealing tape could be used. When painting, prime and paint the cover (face and edge) as well as inside the vent housing body so all visible surfaces are painted. Important to completely match the ceiling. Keep the great videos coming!
Easier to trace around the nailing flange, score and peel off the paper layer of the drywall, so, the flange flush mounts better and you don’t have to build it out with so much mud. May make it easier if you install another one, in the future. Just something that would make sense to me.
I finishing up my master bath remodel for my daughter now...wish id seen these....i love that look....i did use a Panasonic but not sure i want to cut in and try to do this now...
My concern is that you will end up with dirt marks around that drywall finish just from the airflow. Finished drywall is much harder to clean than the ugly plastic vent cover.
Moisture rich environment plus pulling any dust out the fan in my opinion is dirt buildup on the ceiling paint that the escaping moisture captures near the vent opening. Generally any gloss on a ceiling is undesirable IMO. Low gloss hides the imperfections better but is not as "washable" over the long run. Also, how efficient is a fan with this cover? Sure seems like less airflow than is required to be effective. Most code calls for a certain CFM of exhaust fan capacity. While the fan may be capable, is the intake? Looks nice, but not sure it is effective?
Looks great! Has it significantly changed how loud or effective the fan is at clearing the room? Apparently they make HVAC really loud, so I just wanted to check if that was the case here too. Thanks.
I did this exact same thing with the Aria vent and panasonic fan. It was as much of a pain in the ass as you are demonstrating to install. I had to cut all the flaps of the panasonic housing clean off to avoid interference with the holes for the cover plate. It's a novel idea, but design of the vent cover needs to be improved. A lot improved. Not worth the effort in my opinion.
My other concern is that it is made of folded sheet metal. You see how the housing of the fans themselves rust out over time, and how nasty and grimy the plastic vent covers get when moisture accumulates. I'm a bit concerned that water vapor will pool up in the vent cover over time, and there will be a big mold problem.
We are NOT having the same issues with install. We've done half dozen or so Put fan on attic side, self tap into vent, remove screws and reinstall from below in same holes. I swear it's the easiest thing.
Called the two young handsome guys (that promoted these covers on socials) on it as soon as I saw the "hustle free" install. 🤣 One will have to finagle more or less with it to make it work. The question is, "is it worth it". For me as another Pro I would say yes. Flush mount look is superb, comparable to any other fan/vent cover there is. On a different subject something that I would recommend for a BRT trailer, it is called "new skin - liquid bandage". You can purchase it otc in any pharmacy. It saved me soooo maaaany times. It stops bleeding asap and even larger cuts too. Check it out. Will you be at the upcoming Coverings in Atlanta? 👀
I do need to get a first aid kit on this job 😆 I’ll try liquid skin out next time 😆 maybe that will be my big sponsorship deal 😆 yep we’ll be at coverings 👍
@@BathroomRemodelingTeacher even that little 1\4" flange is all you need. But, we love a Panasonic whisper quiet and the Fitties lite vent cover. 👍We have never cut out that internal perforation either. Just mount from above and go. Airflow\schmairflow.
Love the channel! Thanks for helping all of us out. Question: with the foam board backer you overcome the tub flange on the long axis but not on the short axis (eg plumbing side) instead you have it resting on top of the flange and fill the space with sealant. Wondering why you don't overcome the flange on the short sides and extend down to horizontal tub surface?
YIKES... I replaced my ceiling fan with a Panasonic Whisper Fit after watching the Bathroom Remodeling Teachers video: "My Favorite Bathroom Vent Fan | Panasonic Whisperfit "Now he says the included Panasonic fan cover is ugly and this cover is worth $150! Sorry... I agree the finished product looks nice and would like it in my recent remodel but the price tag is out of line. How the heck can I (or the average Joe) justify $150 for a replacement cover when my entire Panasonic fan "with" cover was purchased for $150 ? Realistically this vent cover should be in the $50 -$75 range... 😲 I hope Panasonic picks up on this trend and eventually offers their own version for less.
You would think It would be super easy for Panasonic to just make the flanges to be able to be finished with drywall mud👍 no doubt it’s a luxury item. Hard to justify spending more for cover than fan 😆
How does this cover affect the sound of the vent fan? I was working in a house with linear registers and fancy return grills on the HVAC that very slightly blocked the airflow but made a whooshing noise that was annoying.
Ok cool so I do things like you do then. I'd hate to be waiting days for things to dry when I could've been doing it all at once lol thanks BRT !! @@BathroomRemodelingTeacher
Those hands have seen a thing or two, but… hot glue? Even surgeons know you use super glue for things like this. And here I am again, having flashbacks about your handling those GoBoards. Are you a pachyderm or something? As soon as I’m within 10 feet of a GoBoard my hands start stinging.
Looks great but these do not perform anywhere near the bare minimum requirements for proper air flow. Video below for anyone interested in just how bad the flow ratings are on these. ruclips.net/video/1hfmbLiL0i4/видео.htmlsi=YHskuHy0M09e-FNg
Good video. An easier option would have been to top-mount the fan. Start by centering the fan and putting in two screws to hold it in place. Mark the cut-outs for the tabs and inside flange cut lines (to the inside edge of the existing fan). Lastly, drill pilot holes for the final mounting screws which will be from the bottom up, first through the new vent cover then into the fan flange. This allows removal from the room-side if there is no access from above. Remove the temp screws, add the foam gasket and screw it from the bottom up. Instead of the gasket,duct sealing tape could be used. When painting, prime and paint the cover (face and edge) as well as inside the vent housing body so all visible surfaces are painted. Important to completely match the ceiling. Keep the great videos coming!
Easier to trace around the nailing flange, score and peel off the paper layer of the drywall, so, the flange flush mounts better and you don’t have to build it out with so much mud. May make it easier if you install another one, in the future. Just something that would make sense to me.
Life of a contractor.
God bless you brother.
I just bought a nice light/fan combo. Forget the headache, lol
The bathroom looks great. I love the tile colors... but the walls seem so dark. Almost get the feeling your in a closet. Excellent job
Thanks, yeah the camera even has a hard time with it 😆 pixelated
I finishing up my master bath remodel for my daughter now...wish id seen these....i love that look....i did use a Panasonic but not sure i want to cut in and try to do this now...
Had to laugh “they are ugly” with the plastic tub wall as a back drop 😂
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My concern is that you will end up with dirt marks around that drywall finish just from the airflow. Finished drywall is much harder to clean than the ugly plastic vent cover.
Legitimate concern 👍
Moisture rich environment plus pulling any dust out the fan in my opinion is dirt buildup on the ceiling paint that the escaping moisture captures near the vent opening. Generally any gloss on a ceiling is undesirable IMO. Low gloss hides the imperfections better but is not as "washable" over the long run. Also, how efficient is a fan with this cover? Sure seems like less airflow than is required to be effective. Most code calls for a certain CFM of exhaust fan capacity. While the fan may be capable, is the intake? Looks nice, but not sure it is effective?
Looks great! Has it significantly changed how loud or effective the fan is at clearing the room? Apparently they make HVAC really loud, so I just wanted to check if that was the case here too. Thanks.
I did this exact same thing with the Aria vent and panasonic fan. It was as much of a pain in the ass as you are demonstrating to install.
I had to cut all the flaps of the panasonic housing clean off to avoid interference with the holes for the cover plate. It's a novel idea, but design of the vent cover needs to be improved. A lot improved. Not worth the effort in my opinion.
I will be much faster the second time around for sure, but yeah why not make it just fit the Panasonics at least? Love the concept overall
My other concern is that it is made of folded sheet metal. You see how the housing of the fans themselves rust out over time, and how nasty and grimy the plastic vent covers get when moisture accumulates. I'm a bit concerned that water vapor will pool up in the vent cover over time, and there will be a big mold problem.
@@rtkevans good point 👍
We are NOT having the same issues with install. We've done half dozen or so
Put fan on attic side, self tap into vent, remove screws and reinstall from below in same holes.
I swear it's the easiest thing.
I'm not a FAN
When I do a Bath remodel and the customer ask's to replace the exaust...I just say here's my electricians number....lol
I always use the flush mount.
Thank you for this. I’m about to install my first one. Looking forward to it
Thank you for such a detailed video. That was very helpful.
Yeah this is bit nicer but not worth the hassle in my opinion. Also installing a replacement fan afterwards might be diffucult
Love the hot glue gun save. The show must go on. I love it
does it need tape? cant you just go right over the flanges with mud?
Called the two young handsome guys (that promoted these covers on socials) on it as soon as I saw the "hustle free" install. 🤣 One will have to finagle more or less with it to make it work. The question is, "is it worth it". For me as another Pro I would say yes. Flush mount look is superb, comparable to any other fan/vent cover there is. On a different subject something that I would recommend for a BRT trailer, it is called "new skin - liquid bandage". You can purchase it otc in any pharmacy. It saved me soooo maaaany times. It stops bleeding asap and even larger cuts too. Check it out. Will you be at the upcoming Coverings in Atlanta? 👀
I do need to get a first aid kit on this job 😆 I’ll try liquid skin out next time 😆 maybe that will be my big sponsorship deal 😆 yep we’ll be at coverings 👍
These are our go to in every bathroom now. Love them. But we just self tap a screw right thru the fan into the housing. No angle needed
Guess I’m certain of how you do that with fans without flanges 👍
@@BathroomRemodelingTeacher even that little 1\4" flange is all you need. But, we love a Panasonic whisper quiet and the Fitties lite vent cover. 👍We have never cut out that internal perforation either. Just mount from above and go. Airflow\schmairflow.
I wonder if you could tile over the cover if you had a fan in the shower itself with a tiled ceiling...
Now that’s a cool idea 👍 I’m betting you could. The metal is certainly thick enough to handle it 👍
I wonder if these are more restrictive not allowing proper airflow.
Love the channel! Thanks for helping all of us out. Question: with the foam board backer you overcome the tub flange on the long axis but not on the short axis (eg plumbing side) instead you have it resting on top of the flange and fill the space with sealant. Wondering why you don't overcome the flange on the short sides and extend down to horizontal tub surface?
Simply showing different ways to do it. The sides were also more than a 1/4” thick with the shimming needed. Skimming with sealant is easier
Great info Steve!
YIKES... I replaced my ceiling fan with a Panasonic Whisper Fit after watching the Bathroom Remodeling Teachers video: "My Favorite Bathroom Vent Fan | Panasonic Whisperfit "Now he says the included Panasonic fan cover is ugly and this cover is worth $150! Sorry... I agree the finished product looks nice and would like it in my recent remodel but the price tag is out of line. How the heck can I (or the average Joe) justify $150 for a replacement cover when my entire Panasonic fan "with" cover was purchased for $150 ? Realistically this vent cover should be in the $50 -$75 range... 😲 I hope Panasonic picks up on this trend and eventually offers their own version for less.
You would think It would be super easy for Panasonic to just make the flanges to be able to be finished with drywall mud👍 no doubt it’s a luxury item. Hard to justify spending more for cover than fan 😆
How does this cover affect the sound of the vent fan? I was working in a house with linear registers and fancy return grills on the HVAC that very slightly blocked the airflow but made a whooshing noise that was annoying.
This looks nice, but the severe restriction on airflow forces the fan motor to work too hard and thus burnout faster.
Is it louder now? I have the whisper one and wouldn’t want to sacrifice how quietly it performs.
I didn’t notice a difference really 👍
Are you mudding and priming and painting within a few hours? Doesn't the mud need to be completely dry before primer & paint can bond ?
Took 3 hours total over 2 days 👍
Ok cool so I do things like you do then. I'd hate to be waiting days for things to dry when I could've been doing it all at once lol thanks BRT !! @@BathroomRemodelingTeacher
Those hands have seen a thing or two, but… hot glue? Even surgeons know you use super glue for things like this. And here I am again, having flashbacks about your handling those GoBoards. Are you a pachyderm or something? As soon as I’m within 10 feet of a GoBoard my hands start stinging.
😎⚒️😎⚒️😎
Looks great but these do not perform anywhere near the bare minimum requirements for proper air flow. Video below for anyone interested in just how bad the flow ratings are on these.
ruclips.net/video/1hfmbLiL0i4/видео.htmlsi=YHskuHy0M09e-FNg
Yeah gimme the ugly plastic one that moves air, not the crap from Aria that doesn't.