That's because they're not dealing with elements within the story that could account for the change like this movie does or a movie like the last one Heath Ledger was in that dealt with magic in which the actors that filled in his role during parts he couldn't do is explained away through magic changing his appearance. But I will admit, Hollywood needs to do a better job recasting characters because they don't even bother to get actors that remotely resemble the previous one apart from race. Then there's little to explain and we can just buy the character aged a bit or just ignore the subtitle differences but still buy this is the same person. This series here with the Oracle gets a pass since I like Mary Alice and think she did a good job and since we're dealing with computer programs, I can get around a digital being looking drastically different if need be for protection or a punishment.
@@devontehuntley6274 Its not just a matter of trying to find an actor who looked like the previous one but also if they are a good actor. Not impossible but hard to find someone who both looks like the previous actor and can act when on a tight schedule which a lot of movies are.
@@livingcorpse5664 Movies often take a while to start shooting so they have time. There's like a million actors out there they can fine one that could fit the bill. They just don't try hard enough and frankly I always see people that don't even look like the previous actor in a recast role. There's so many actors I come across that could have made good replacements in something from who was actually cast and I'm like, "Why didn't they go with this person?" like a missed opportunity. Ghostbusters Afterlife had the Gozer character return and the replacement looks JUST LIKE the original in the make-up and everything. Now that is how you do it. Johnny Depp was replaced in the new Fantastic Beast movie and I bet you the new guy is going to have a different look and make-up completely. I hope they explain his appearance different with magic since this is a fantasy movie.
Always loved those little signs of respect the characters had for the Oracle. They all always took off their shades in her presence. Except that bastard Smith, but you know.
This could have multiple meanings as well. I like how the meaning of "no glasses" changes throughout the first film. Smith's manipulation during the interrogation under the disguise of honesty which, ironically, is also there. Then, what you just said shown by Morpheus (as Neo didn't wear glasses yet). Inherent humanity of Neo and Trinity in "lots of guns" scene and finally Smith's glasses broken by Neo's passionate attacks.
@@dr_rune That's because the trust is gone at this point which is also clearly emphasised in this scene. And Seraph is a firewall - no surprise he won't take his glasses off.
Yes. I always had this impression in regard to The Matrix franchise. I clearly remember my excitement with how great "english" was in the first film (meaning the dialogues) shortly after the film was released in my teens. It's not my first language and I was absolutely amazed (which explains why I am a massive fan even over 20 years later).
Theres a tension in this scene that gets me every time i watch it. Sure the pay off isn't that great later on but the set up the Oracle does with the music cued in just reels me in.
I just realized something. If you compare what the oracle is saying to a fighting game played in story mode that's basically what she told Niobe. And you can't see past the end of the game until the next installation.
Closest the series ever got to Ghost in the Shell. There’s a spirit/ghost that defines identity. That spirit is aware of itself regardless of its skin.
@@alicemi4155 the first one had a more open attitude. This one feels a lot like they keymaker: doing her job because it's her purpose. The first one felt like she was trying to have fun, experimenting with the matrix. Also the first was in theme with the appearence-essence difference in the matrix. You wouldn't expect the lady in red dress to become an agent, nor the oracle to be a real oracle.
I wish speech recognition would learn the difference between then and than. I can't tell you how many times I've sent a response but didn't read it first and then cursed technology
Not really. It's tied to the Sati storyline in the third film - her parents had to return to the Source but couldn't bring their daughter along as she wasn't meant to exist, so the Merovingian made them a deal - he'll protect her in exchange for the Oracle's shell's termination codes. She explains it in the Ghost version of the cutscene.
i just realized that this A.I. happens to be the one that calculates events that will happen in the future like the one we have in real life i don't recall the name of the computer that does this but one exists.
There's more. There was about an hour of live action scenes filmed for Enter the Matrix which tells a story understood as a part of the canon. Have fun watching these clips, they're on RUclips!
@@TheMrTumbs Go for it! If you have PS2 somewhere you can play the game (or just use a computer it's an old game so it doesn't need a crazy good computer in comparison with current standards). The thing is that The Matrix trilogy is a relatively early exercise in transmedia storytelling therefore the game, Enter the Matrix, is like the fourth film. This means that all instalments of the meta-narrative (war with machines and the return of the One) are comprehensible and self contained narratives (stand alone releases complete to a degree). These would be the first, the best film, the sequels (they're basically one film shot back to back so they need to be watched together for comprehension of Revolutions), The Animatrix, comic books or Enter the Matrix. They're available in different media and you can watch, read or play them on their own and they make sense however you get the most of them if you get the whole package. So the first film would be like an ur-text, you have the mandatory exposition or rules of diegesis of the meta-narrative outlined there. Then there's the Animatrix where two episodes specifically set either a narrative or its element for the sequels. Comic books expand on The Animatrix and therefore on the whole world of The Matrix. For example there's an event in The Animatrix, a murder case which leads to the war with machines but in the comic book you actually witness B166ER murdering its human masters. After The Animatrix and comic books (vol 1 and vol 2) you have sequels, The Matrix Reloaded and Revolutions where we meet captain Niobe. Her character gets her own exposition, as well as a detailed narrative arch, in Enter the Matrix game. It take place during the sequels and expands both on the world as well as significant developments of the cinematic trilogy in regard to choices made by characters. Additionally, if you play game twice, once as captain Niobe and once as the first mate on Logos, Ghost, you get to see the events unfolding during the game from two, slightly different perspectives. Go for it!
@@WhiteRabbitDave i knew about Animatrix but not about Enter the Matrix being a whole new story! Interesting how they kept expanding the story. I should check it asap Thanks!
@@TheMrTumbs Play for the story, the game is dated now and upon release it wasn't amazing although I personally quite liked it. Oh, there also was The Matrix Online which seems to have continued the story beyond the peace with machines but it's long gone and I have never played it (it wasn't even available in my country at the time when servers worked).
I dont have a problem with the actor change cus of her death and the backstory about changing the outer "shell" cus she was hunted. But this new oracle was the old oracle inside and just the shell was replaced. But the acting was like it was a different person/woman. And that acting was the problem. If the new actor had played the role like the 1st oracle it would be more bleieveble and cooler. But this was a totally different person she played.
Despite the film and this scene explaining it that way, I don't look at it that literally. I see it more as like the Oracle being a program that got slightly corrupted "in transit" of whatever it is she had to do, and then changed some when her program was recovered. Yes mostly it was her shell (i.e., UI) that changed but some portion of her personality went along with it, despite what she tells people. She's either lying because that's what Morpheus, Trinity, Neo and Niobe needed to hear...or her new program genuinely believes that she hasn't changed. The other thing to add is that she may be more serious now because things are far more dire than before.
Samuel Jackson requested a unique light saber color. Lore and canon were created out of a simple choice of vanity by an actor wanting something so he could stand out. Sometimes a performance is just that. But story being what it is look at the children it has birthed..
The actress was a close friend of Gloria Foster, the original Oracle, and understood her acting style well as a consequence. That's why she was chosen to take over the role for the game and Revolutions. I think she did a good job of representing the Oracle with a different tone, one more suited to finishing her personal mission in helping Neo and ending the war.
The first time I saw this, I laughed out loud and thought this was a YTP. Then I realized this ws real and went "... What the... Fuck?... No wait. Yeah, that DOES make sense..."
We could try guessing it's because Niobe doesn't believe in the prophecy and most possibly doesn't fully trust the Oracle. Also, Morpheus could be a sensitive subject as although she loves him, at this point she was still with Lock.
@@sarfarazpanjwani3459 Not the place for it. Seeking answers? You'll need much more time and more than one scene although itself it can prove to be defining answers you seek at a given time. Attention? No.
I watched the trilogy around 20-30 times for each. And I don't remember this scene. Is there any other scenes like this which was not included in the original.
I watched it over 300 times. This is from a game which acts as the fourth film - Enter the Matrix. There was about an hour of live actin footage filmed for this game.
@@WhiteRabbitDave Oh thanks for the quick reply. Actually I remember the Enter the Matrix game. I had played it when it was first released. But it has been a while. So I don't remember these footages. Also I watched the animatrix. Just I didn't play the online matrix game.
More or less as Smith began takin over the Matrix. Towards the end of Enter the Matrix, cpt. Niobe playthrough. Later there's a run to the exit through the city of Smiths and eventually escape from the sentinels which concludes with a crash picked up in the cinematic trilogy.
It wasn't deleted at all. In fact it was added. 8t comes from a videogame called Enter the Matrix. About an hour of additional footage was filmed together with the sequels especially for this game which is a canon story of cpt Niobe.
Towards the end of Enter the Matrix. It's a game which takes place along the narrative of the sequels. Except for the usual cutscenes about an hour of footage for this game was filmed together with the films.
separated the brain from the body already, touched the ZION (highest level of intelligent being, level 24), and still far from the source of creation. Jun 09, 2022
Kind of. While filming The Matrix Reloaded and Revolutions the team also filmed additional footage for a game called Enter the Matrix. In the transmedia storytelling model it counts a a narrative that expands the story from the films however both can be experienced separately, without being familiar with the other. The actors never knew which parts were meant for the cinematic release and which were for the game.
There is something not integral, when Oracle states that she cannot see beyond end and can only hope, and states that world would end if they would not be able to save it, but also says that she cannot predict Niobe actions and have hop if given chance she would act in certain way which means that world has already ended At the end of revolution there is statement that she doesn't not always knew, but believed, so world has ended by that conclusion, but was saved. How is that coherent?
It's very much integral and coherent. The Oracle knows how the things usually go as this wasn't the first time the One occurred. However, Neo is different. Neo truly makes his own choices. Therefore he's not completely predictable and the Oracle can't be sure of the outcomes resulting from his choices.
@@WhiteRabbitDave I was saying specifically, that statement of Oracle in this scene, that was not shown in the trilogy says, that she cannot see beyond end. Then says that there was only hope left. She cannot understand the decision made to get herself to Smith. Than means, logically that the world 'has ended', because maybe different decisions were made, hence the the outcome was not in the timeline that already occured. But, here, why she is saying about need of saving world, when she already stated that there she can see the end?
A bit late but adding to your point, Neo even surprised the architect when he decided to open the door that would allow him to save Trinity while deciding not to save Zion
Someone had to be the first person to realize that she... or he.... was in the Matrix. Someone had to be the first to realize that she... or he... was in Wonderland. I wonder who that person was ?
It may have been many people at once. The first Matrix was rejected by most of its inhabitants because it was too good to be true. The one was probably not the first to awaken. He is just the anamoly.
The og actress died after filming wrapped up for the second movie. This actress (who was also a friend of the original), was cast for the Enter the Matrix game and for the third movie.
This is a perfectly retarded comment. However, I am truly intrigued by your thought proces. How did you manage to determine a correlation between a blood type and approaches to the interpersonal relationships?
Red pill = person wakes up to the REAL reality, right? Ever notice how Niobe is THE ONLY person in Zion to wear red? Not only that, but she wears red both INSIDE the Matrix, AND in the “real world”/Zion. The others, except for Switch (who wore white while IN THE MATRIX only), wears black INSIDE the Matrix, but regular shabby, generically colored clothing while in the “real world”/ Zion. Now, I wonder.... why do you suppose is the significance of that? Hmmmm? 🤯 It. Is. Not. By. Mistake. Or. Coincidence. I assure you.
Red clothing worn in Zion means a captain of a ship in Zion fleet. She is not the only one to wear red in Zion. Additionally, Ballard, Soren, etc. wear red inside the Matrix as well. Of course, red is a cinematic sub-code with meaning specific to the diegesis of The Matrix trilogy however you are wrong pointing out incorrect details. Keep looking down the rabbit hole, you have all the time in the world. It is also not true that the rebels wear exclusively black clothes. In the sequels Morpheus wears purple.
They can essentially, take full control, of almost anyone, within SimCity. If they want to. As some of these SimCity players, after playing SimCity, go to wash dishes, go to other places, when not playing SimCity, when those within SimCity are in pain, in bad situations, etc. They know this, and they refuse to shut down SimCity. They come up with all sorts of Sin Gameplays, Bible/Religious Books Gameplays, to justify playing in SimCity, not shutting down SimCity.
These Elderly Grandma like SimCity Multi-Players Multi-Telefones, will actually chop the children into pieces with Partners and Schemers just to remain in the gameplay, to hack their way into survival hijack the gameplay.
The philosophical dialogue in both the sequels is terrible. Constant wannabe intelligent conversations like this every few minutes. It tries to present itself as being really deep and profound but when you boil down the conversations and actually think what they are saying it's basically a load of pretentious nonsense.
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The heart never speaks, but you must listen to it to know.
She's love Morpheus)
To listen is confusing, simply heed to what you truly felt, gut feelings.
For a split second, I actually thought Niobe was the next Oracle, or maybe is Oracle...
The heart never speaks, but you must listen to it to know.
@@God-T right? I get that too.
I respect the writers and directors for at least attempting to explain why the Oracle looks different. Most movies wouldn't do that.
That's because they're not dealing with elements within the story that could account for the change like this movie does or a movie like the last one Heath Ledger was in that dealt with magic in which the actors that filled in his role during parts he couldn't do is explained away through magic changing his appearance. But I will admit, Hollywood needs to do a better job recasting characters because they don't even bother to get actors that remotely resemble the previous one apart from race. Then there's little to explain and we can just buy the character aged a bit or just ignore the subtitle differences but still buy this is the same person. This series here with the Oracle gets a pass since I like Mary Alice and think she did a good job and since we're dealing with computer programs, I can get around a digital being looking drastically different if need be for protection or a punishment.
@@devontehuntley6274 Its not just a matter of trying to find an actor who looked like the previous one but also if they are a good actor. Not impossible but hard to find someone who both looks like the previous actor and can act when on a tight schedule which a lot of movies are.
@@livingcorpse5664 Movies often take a while to start shooting so they have time. There's like a million actors out there they can fine one that could fit the bill. They just don't try hard enough and frankly I always see people that don't even look like the previous actor in a recast role. There's so many actors I come across that could have made good replacements in something from who was actually cast and I'm like, "Why didn't they go with this person?" like a missed opportunity. Ghostbusters Afterlife had the Gozer character return and the replacement looks JUST LIKE the original in the make-up and everything. Now that is how you do it. Johnny Depp was replaced in the new Fantastic Beast movie and I bet you the new guy is going to have a different look and make-up completely. I hope they explain his appearance different with magic since this is a fantasy movie.
Respect is earned not just given
That’s exactly what I said!!!!! Wtf how did you say exactly what I said?
Oracle to the Asian dude :
"Hey, when the questions start to get all heavy n specific, just come in and say It is time"
His name is Seraph.
Gloria Foster was such an excellent fit for the Oracle's role. RIP.
Always loved those little signs of respect the characters had for the Oracle. They all always took off their shades in her presence.
Except that bastard Smith, but you know.
This could have multiple meanings as well. I like how the meaning of "no glasses" changes throughout the first film. Smith's manipulation during the interrogation under the disguise of honesty which, ironically, is also there. Then, what you just said shown by Morpheus (as Neo didn't wear glasses yet). Inherent humanity of Neo and Trinity in "lots of guns" scene and finally Smith's glasses broken by Neo's passionate attacks.
@@WhiteRabbitDave absolutely. Great interpretation.
Not always. When Seraph takes Trinity and Morpheus to see her before rescuing Neo, neither takes off their glasses, but that has its own reasons too.
@@dr_rune That's because the trust is gone at this point which is also clearly emphasised in this scene. And Seraph is a firewall - no surprise he won't take his glasses off.
Smith is definitely a bastard his mother(the Oracle) made him without the father(the architect )
RIP Gloria Foster
The choice of words in the script are amazing!
Yes. I always had this impression in regard to The Matrix franchise. I clearly remember my excitement with how great "english" was in the first film (meaning the dialogues) shortly after the film was released in my teens. It's not my first language and I was absolutely amazed (which explains why I am a massive fan even over 20 years later).
The key to characters like the Oracle was to use them sparingly. Otherwise they would get too fortune-cookie and the mystery would get stale.
The path of the ONE is MADE BY THE MANY
Theres a tension in this scene that gets me every time i watch it. Sure the pay off isn't that great later on but the set up the Oracle does with the music cued in just reels me in.
I just realized something. If you compare what the oracle is saying to a fighting game played in story mode that's basically what she told Niobe. And you can't see past the end of the game until the next installation.
Closest the series ever got to Ghost in the Shell. There’s a spirit/ghost that defines identity. That spirit is aware of itself regardless of its skin.
Man the old Oracle was an entirely different demeanor
I really love them both
This one is more badass. I like her better.
@@alicemi4155 the first one had a more open attitude. This one feels a lot like they keymaker: doing her job because it's her purpose. The first one felt like she was trying to have fun, experimenting with the matrix. Also the first was in theme with the appearence-essence difference in the matrix. You wouldn't expect the lady in red dress to become an agent, nor the oracle to be a real oracle.
@@BingChilingEnjoyer I guess it doesn't bother me because I watched Dr. Who
@@mathisleyenda8724 wish I knew what you mean
I feel like Niobe should have had her own movie rather then a video game
EtM being a part of transmedia storytelling initiative technically is the fourth movie in the franchise but I know what you mean ;)
Maybe, but give these guys credit. They actually made the cutscenes like a fourth movie. That's going the extra mile.
For a split second, I actually thought Niobe was the next Oracle, or maybe is Oracle
True, Niobe is cool as fuck
I wish speech recognition would learn the difference between then and than. I can't tell you how many times I've sent a response but didn't read it first and then cursed technology
Trinity fought her way through hell to do it. The last remnants of the nightmare matrix.
Very nice. You seem like one of the old army yourself. Welcome back on the mission.
@@WhiteRabbitDave hopefully its not in vain
PERFECT. LOVE IT.
I wish these scenes were included in the third movie.
And This is why you are not a film editor.
I don't, I think this was too much of a side story we never heard and it made the what the oracle said a mystery like it was with everyone else.
It would fit more as a special feature or something.
It’s like Jesus dealing with his fellow human beings
Did the Oracle predict that Niobe will cheat on a loyal and success husband?
I Don think there’s a concept of marriage at this point. They used the word “with” instead.
HAHAHA!
Fish Mooney sees the Oracle.
damn i forgot jada already had a red table talk with the oracle. except the table was sorta matrix green.
The merovingian must've been a powerful program to change the oracles shell
Not really. It's tied to the Sati storyline in the third film - her parents had to return to the Source but couldn't bring their daughter along as she wasn't meant to exist, so the Merovingian made them a deal - he'll protect her in exchange for the Oracle's shell's termination codes.
She explains it in the Ghost version of the cutscene.
@@res20stupid how is it "bad" for the oracle to change her shell exactly ?
Simply amazing actresses ❤
SHALOM!!!
i just realized that this A.I. happens to be the one that calculates events that will happen in the future like the one we have in real life i don't recall the name of the computer that does this but one exists.
Smith - “Damn. Not who I was hoping for, but perhaps you can help me find him.”
"I mean we! The path of the one is made by the many."
A very important quote.
@@WhiteRabbitDave Indeed!
Whoooah i never saw this. Awesome
There's more. There was about an hour of live action scenes filmed for Enter the Matrix which tells a story understood as a part of the canon. Have fun watching these clips, they're on RUclips!
@@WhiteRabbitDave why I learned this just now? I have a lot to watch!
@@TheMrTumbs Go for it! If you have PS2 somewhere you can play the game (or just use a computer it's an old game so it doesn't need a crazy good computer in comparison with current standards). The thing is that The Matrix trilogy is a relatively early exercise in transmedia storytelling therefore the game, Enter the Matrix, is like the fourth film. This means that all instalments of the meta-narrative (war with machines and the return of the One) are comprehensible and self contained narratives (stand alone releases complete to a degree). These would be the first, the best film, the sequels (they're basically one film shot back to back so they need to be watched together for comprehension of Revolutions), The Animatrix, comic books or Enter the Matrix. They're available in different media and you can watch, read or play them on their own and they make sense however you get the most of them if you get the whole package. So the first film would be like an ur-text, you have the mandatory exposition or rules of diegesis of the meta-narrative outlined there. Then there's the Animatrix where two episodes specifically set either a narrative or its element for the sequels. Comic books expand on The Animatrix and therefore on the whole world of The Matrix. For example there's an event in The Animatrix, a murder case which leads to the war with machines but in the comic book you actually witness B166ER murdering its human masters. After The Animatrix and comic books (vol 1 and vol 2) you have sequels, The Matrix Reloaded and Revolutions where we meet captain Niobe. Her character gets her own exposition, as well as a detailed narrative arch, in Enter the Matrix game. It take place during the sequels and expands both on the world as well as significant developments of the cinematic trilogy in regard to choices made by characters. Additionally, if you play game twice, once as captain Niobe and once as the first mate on Logos, Ghost, you get to see the events unfolding during the game from two, slightly different perspectives. Go for it!
@@WhiteRabbitDave i knew about Animatrix but not about Enter the Matrix being a whole new story! Interesting how they kept expanding the story. I should check it asap
Thanks!
@@TheMrTumbs Play for the story, the game is dated now and upon release it wasn't amazing although I personally quite liked it. Oh, there also was The Matrix Online which seems to have continued the story beyond the peace with machines but it's long gone and I have never played it (it wasn't even available in my country at the time when servers worked).
I dont have a problem with the actor change cus of her death and the backstory about changing the outer "shell" cus she was hunted. But this new oracle was the old oracle inside and just the shell was replaced. But the acting was like it was a different person/woman. And that acting was the problem. If the new actor had played the role like the 1st oracle it would be more bleieveble and cooler. But this was a totally different person she played.
Ever heard of Doctor who?
Despite the film and this scene explaining it that way, I don't look at it that literally. I see it more as like the Oracle being a program that got slightly corrupted "in transit" of whatever it is she had to do, and then changed some when her program was recovered. Yes mostly it was her shell (i.e., UI) that changed but some portion of her personality went along with it, despite what she tells people.
She's either lying because that's what Morpheus, Trinity, Neo and Niobe needed to hear...or her new program genuinely believes that she hasn't changed. The other thing to add is that she may be more serious now because things are far more dire than before.
Samuel Jackson requested a unique light saber color. Lore and canon were created out of a simple choice of vanity by an actor wanting something so he could stand out. Sometimes a performance is just that. But story being what it is look at the children it has birthed..
Its too difficult to imitate, first actor is a league better than the second, no offense.
The actress was a close friend of Gloria Foster, the original Oracle, and understood her acting style well as a consequence. That's why she was chosen to take over the role for the game and Revolutions. I think she did a good job of representing the Oracle with a different tone, one more suited to finishing her personal mission in helping Neo and ending the war.
This was a cool game, I played it on the cube lol surprised it came with 2 disc's but again pretty fun
Alright, I'll go....Wait! Let me put on my sunglasses.
The first time I saw this, I laughed out loud and thought this was a YTP.
Then I realized this ws real and went "... What the... Fuck?... No wait. Yeah, that DOES make sense..."
This conversation is so back and forth....holy crap
We could try guessing it's because Niobe doesn't believe in the prophecy and most possibly doesn't fully trust the Oracle. Also, Morpheus could be a sensitive subject as although she loves him, at this point she was still with Lock.
You will. You do.
Red table talk prelude 😂
The path we share is only made by the many
Seeing this after Matrix 4 🤯
damn the matrix was gloria fosters last movie :( rip they found the perfect woman for the role
I chose to be this before I knew this line.
Niobe back in matrix 4 🎳🏉🎱
niobe is hot
true.
niobe is cool
cool = cold! :))
cold Niobe = cool :)
Niobe is also married... It isn't right to see her this way...
OMG that is deep
Quite deep indeed.
The path of the one is many. I knew I know I did it this way.
*is made by the many.
It's not as simplistic as you put it.
I wrote that comment for myself and meant to write it that way to keep record. But go off. I don't reply a second time.
Does anyone remember when the oracle was actually her dorm room mother on the TV show different world?
Holy shit, she was wasn’t she? Damn.
That explains why she let her ship to Neo in Revolutions
I’m your co star in A Different World. 😂
Mumblemumblemumblemumblemumble, mumble.
That is your infinite wisdom.
Check your temperature because I don't think you're feeling well.
They all wear glasses and look cool at the top.
Until they see an agent.
bruh i feel like i’m living in the matrix, didn’t morpheus call her nicobe, when they took neo to zion
Track name please.
I have become Oracle.
Never could buy into her character…. Niobe….
Maybe it was the acting (or lack of)… but the Oracle was always rolled out well.
That's a very conventional approach. Maybe it's because you didn't explore her story through Enter the Matrix?
I am just trying to find out some answers to my questions...I am glad someone replied to my comment
You found a convoluted way to get some attention instead.
@@WhiteRabbitDave lol...yeah....
@@WhiteRabbitDave I am in a dillema
@@sarfarazpanjwani3459 Not the place for it. Seeking answers? You'll need much more time and more than one scene although itself it can prove to be defining answers you seek at a given time. Attention? No.
@@sarfarazpanjwani3459 I cannot help you. It is not the spoon that bends, it is only yourself.
I wonder what snack she gave her
never seen this scene before and I was obsessed with these movies, is this something like deleted scenes or never added or am I in the matrix ?
Danielu, zdecydowanie jesteś w Matrixie ;) Scena pochodzi z gry Enter the Matrix.
I watched the trilogy around 20-30 times for each. And I don't remember this scene. Is there any other scenes like this which was not included in the original.
I watched it over 300 times. This is from a game which acts as the fourth film - Enter the Matrix. There was about an hour of live actin footage filmed for this game.
@@WhiteRabbitDave Oh thanks for the quick reply. Actually I remember the Enter the Matrix game. I had played it when it was first released. But it has been a while. So I don't remember these footages. Also I watched the animatrix. Just I didn't play the online matrix game.
MR ANDERSON
When was this?
More or less as Smith began takin over the Matrix. Towards the end of Enter the Matrix, cpt. Niobe playthrough. Later there's a run to the exit through the city of Smiths and eventually escape from the sentinels which concludes with a crash picked up in the cinematic trilogy.
Whr this part come from..
Why was this deleted!? Omg! It a very good scene with good info in it!
It wasn't deleted at all. In fact it was added. 8t comes from a videogame called Enter the Matrix. About an hour of additional footage was filmed together with the sequels especially for this game which is a canon story of cpt Niobe.
2:53 CR2430 - Machine accessories at their best.
That's clever, didn't notice that until now.
Why was this not in the new one,
Exiles were purged once a new version of The Matrix started. The few who remained managed to survive by radically altering their identities.
From where is it? Never saw this scene...
Towards the end of Enter the Matrix. It's a game which takes place along the narrative of the sequels. Except for the usual cutscenes about an hour of footage for this game was filmed together with the films.
Wow, I have never seen this, is this from the movie?
You already know what I'm going to tell you.
Enter the matrix it's a game you play as ghost and niobe
separated the brain from the body already, touched the ZION (highest level of intelligent being, level 24), and still far from the source of creation.
Jun 09, 2022
If you did you wouldn't comment here.
I can see why they cut this scene
They didn't. It was filmed along the cinematic trilogy content however it was meant for a game - Enter the Matrix.
Was this in the real movie?
Kind of. While filming The Matrix Reloaded and Revolutions the team also filmed additional footage for a game called Enter the Matrix. In the transmedia storytelling model it counts a a narrative that expands the story from the films however both can be experienced separately, without being familiar with the other. The actors never knew which parts were meant for the cinematic release and which were for the game.
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Is it a hidden scene?
It isn't. It comes from a videogame called Enter the Matrix
i don't remember this scene in the movies..... is this a deleted scene or fan made?
About an hour of live action was filmed for Enter the Matrix game which is an installment in the metanarrative of The Matrix franchise.
@@WhiteRabbitDave where can I see the full hour?
@@xxZerosumxx On youtube I guess.
@@xxZerosumxx ruclips.net/user/results?search_query=enter+the+matrix+cutscenes
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May God have mercy on us, in this matrix of meat sacks of electricity that He has created for us.
Is Zeus you're personal God cartoon?
There is something not integral, when Oracle states that she cannot see beyond end and can only hope, and states that world would end if they would not be able to save it, but also says that she cannot predict Niobe actions and have hop if given chance she would act in certain way which means that world has already ended
At the end of revolution there is statement that she doesn't not always knew, but believed, so world has ended by that conclusion, but was saved. How is that coherent?
It's very much integral and coherent. The Oracle knows how the things usually go as this wasn't the first time the One occurred. However, Neo is different. Neo truly makes his own choices. Therefore he's not completely predictable and the Oracle can't be sure of the outcomes resulting from his choices.
@@WhiteRabbitDave I was saying specifically, that statement of Oracle in this scene, that was not shown in the trilogy says, that she cannot see beyond end. Then says that there was only hope left. She cannot understand the decision made to get herself to Smith. Than means, logically that the world 'has ended', because maybe different decisions were made, hence the the outcome was not in the timeline that already occured. But, here, why she is saying about need of saving world, when she already stated that there she can see the end?
A bit late but adding to your point, Neo even surprised the architect when he decided to open the door that would allow him to save Trinity while deciding not to save Zion
Would you like a cookie?
Você é meu irmão ou não?
Maybe I am or I may be.
Someone had to be the first person to realize that she... or he.... was in the Matrix. Someone had to be the first to realize that she... or he... was in Wonderland.
I wonder who that person was ?
First "the One" you mean?
It may have been many people at once. The first Matrix was rejected by most of its inhabitants because it was too good to be true. The one was probably not the first to awaken. He is just the anamoly.
@@Kojitsu Correct.
Jesus
the matrix is a fricking bible verse... No truth is set in stone, except the One 😅
cosmos is dying
Niobe looks hot back in the days,huh?
Yes. Females are very beautiful in The Matrix series.
long cons, long moms
MIND FUCK
I'm lost how is this oracle appearing with Niobe when she was only in the first movie and Niobe wasnt but was in the second and third
Yeah, you are lost.
The og actress died after filming wrapped up for the second movie. This actress (who was also a friend of the original), was cast for the Enter the Matrix game and for the third movie.
why couldn't they bring the old oracle from 1 and 2 back ? The switch is kinda dumb
Gloria Foster died for reasons related to diabetes. That's why.
@@WhiteRabbitDave Ahhh.. Damn
@@GeneKSM At least now you know.
Oracle perfect at talking a lot without saying anything. Should run for office.
Maybe if you're not familiar with the trilogy.
There are constantly discussions about My World Our World My Universe Our Universe. These Blood Type 0's, constantly push for marriages, and children.
This is a perfectly retarded comment. However, I am truly intrigued by your thought proces. How did you manage to determine a correlation between a blood type and approaches to the interpersonal relationships?
@@WhiteRabbitDave Mostly through a retarded C0Relation Gameplay.
Red pill = person wakes up to the REAL reality, right?
Ever notice how Niobe is THE ONLY person in Zion to wear red? Not only that, but she wears red both INSIDE the Matrix, AND in the “real world”/Zion.
The others, except for Switch (who wore white while IN THE MATRIX only), wears black INSIDE the Matrix, but regular shabby, generically colored clothing while in the “real world”/ Zion.
Now, I wonder.... why do you suppose is the significance of that?
Hmmmm? 🤯
It. Is. Not. By. Mistake. Or. Coincidence.
I assure you.
Red clothing worn in Zion means a captain of a ship in Zion fleet. She is not the only one to wear red in Zion. Additionally, Ballard, Soren, etc. wear red inside the Matrix as well. Of course, red is a cinematic sub-code with meaning specific to the diegesis of The Matrix trilogy however you are wrong pointing out incorrect details. Keep looking down the rabbit hole, you have all the time in the world. It is also not true that the rebels wear exclusively black clothes. In the sequels Morpheus wears purple.
@@WhiteRabbitDave damn... LOL! I love going down the rabbit hole. Took a wrong turn! Thanks for the correction, and not being a turd about... lol. 🤙
And she didn't LISTEN. HOW ELSE YOU GONNA CHEAT ON BIG WILLIE LIKE THAT?
adds r louder than this copy recorded clip
Thank you for your complain b
Sorry, but this lady did not do the original Oracle justice
Not at all. Similar but the 1st one had a specialness to her acting
@@macabree5856 Most definitely my man
They can essentially, take full control, of almost anyone, within SimCity. If they want to. As some of these SimCity players, after playing SimCity, go to wash dishes, go to other places, when not playing SimCity, when those within SimCity are in pain, in bad situations, etc. They know this, and they refuse to shut down SimCity. They come up with all sorts of Sin Gameplays, Bible/Religious Books Gameplays, to justify playing in SimCity, not shutting down SimCity.
These Elderly Grandma like SimCity Multi-Players Multi-Telefones, will actually chop the children into pieces with Partners and Schemers just to remain in the gameplay, to hack their way into survival hijack the gameplay.
Wow, thank you editors for removing this shit scene from the final cut. What fluff
Lol, you're an idiot. You don't even know what it is. It wasn't removed at all. Go away, looser.
I liked these movies, but they seem clumsy and irrelevant now. Not sure wny.
Lol, are you saying that The Matrix (1999) is clumsily done? Also, this clip isn't from any of the films. It's from a game.
@@WhiteRabbitDave Yes, and good luck!
wow Niobe ! silly actress with silly expressions.
The philosophical dialogue in both the sequels is terrible. Constant wannabe intelligent conversations like this every few minutes. It tries to present itself as being really deep and profound but when you boil down the conversations and actually think what they are saying it's basically a load of pretentious nonsense.
Go away.
@@WhiteRabbitDave All I'm offering is the truth. Nothing more.
@@Technique-kj2bp To look down the rabbit hole you need to drop the veil that prevents you from seeing.
@@WhiteRabbitDave What am I not seeing then
@@Technique-kj2bp As you gaze to the front you loose sight of the other side
Niobe, girl, you ain't Trinity. Just sit down and chill.
She’s better than trinity
She isnt trinity but she is starting to believe.
Jada made an easy paycheck playing such a bland and emotionless character.
The heart never speaks, but you must listen to it to know.
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