This CARBON FIBER blade is INSANE!!! - making a FUNCTIONAL GIANT SWORD Part 5 |
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- This carbon fiber blade is insane, and one step closer to making a functional giant carbon fiber sword!
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Hey Shad, I will repeat my comment from the previous video:
as someone working on giant composite pieces for rockets, i would suggest different composites and assembly methods. I think I would go for a Carbon/aluminium sandwich panel, 10-20mm thick (Carbon skins and aluminium honeycomb core). The edges I would actually have them made in sort of U shape that wraps the carbon panel instead of being embedded in the carbon layup. With the current design, if you have too much torsion forces, it might delaminate with a big sword. then that U shape edge would be glued and riveted (with flush rivets) to the panel. That'd be very strong and very rigid while remaining light. Trust me, we make 20m long pieces of composites for rocket fairings and delamination is a real issue the bigger the carbon part becomes.
EDIT: I realize that aluminium honeycomb core is really hard to come by and use for homemade composite but it can be replaced with specific foams that do the same job and are easier to deal with. If you are interested in knowing more about composite design Shad, don't hesitate to send me a PM.
EDIT 2: another solution to have some sort of honeycomb core would be to 3D print it, you can have the shape you want (tapered for example) and print it in many section that you can glue to each other.
replying to boost this comment. It needs to reach the top
Very useful comment
Boosting. Composites will be the way to go for a functional giant sword.
I work with carbon composites as well, this man is spot on
Boosting comment
One step closer to Guts' Dragonslayer.
Now we need to see one
The channel "pretty hate machining" has been making one for months and it will weigh over 300lbs!
It was too big to be called a sword. Massive, thick, heavy, and far too rough. Indeed, it was a heap of raw carbon fiber.
One thing they need to do is give the edge more metal, a millimeter of edge doesn’t sound good for longevity
Admittedly, the Dragonslayer was specifically a HEAVY sword. It barely even carried an edge. The weight is what made it so dangerous, not just the fact that it was 2 or 3 meters long.
That disappointment in Tyranth's face when the blade didn't fail. Real life version of "task failed successfully".
They make spaceships out of this stuff (and maybe a space elevator cable someday).
It had better hold up to being used as a knife to hit a piece of lumber!
@@fredashayvery, very different applications. Carbon fiber used on space vessels needs to be able to tolerate the heat and pressure of going through the atmosphere, not direct clashing with steel and other metal. Those are two very different forces. It’s not made to be indestructible, it’s just a strong _enough_ material for their application that is extremely light. The weight is the main factor for use in spaceships, not because it’s the ‘strongest’ material. Spaceships don’t need to be super shielded, only parts that will be exposed when exiting/entering the atmosphere need any sort of serious protection, and those are made of other metal composites. The Lunar landers were made of essentially aluminum foil because all that it needed to do was seal off the cabin from the outside, not tolerate any forces from air/debris.
I have a feeling this will get lost in the comments, but I work in prosthetics and orthotics and we often work with carbon fiber laminations.1 of the ways that we increase durability and add flexibility as well as reducing cost within the lamination is adding layers of fiber glass Or nylon or nyglass or perlon layers between layers of carbon fiber. The type of resin you use also has a large effect on how the product behaves. I would recommend looking into prosthetic lamination materials for further development of this project and the research surrounding those laminations.
cool
Fiberglass is a lot more dangerous to work with though, the shards when inhaled could cause long term damage. Might need a fumigator to ensure minimal risk but then it's too expensive and not exactly homemakeable
i like how much effort is being put into this concept just because all of us collectively want to make/know the viability of a giant sword in combat
The MGS cyborg ninja is one step closer to reality.
Just because we have the technology, we never stopped to ask if we should. And the answer is yes.
Shad's words of how the carbon fiber bouncing back from the lower amount of mass so it didn't get bitten into by the other sword has the same energy as "it's a feature, not a bug."
steel has elasticity ie bounce too
@@joefish6091 not in the same proportion due to the mass. The sharpened edge on a steel sword tends to crumple or chip away, dissipating a lot of that energy that would've gone towards bouncing and making them feel dead when compared to a
Shad definitely has a hard-on for carbon fiber. But there is a reason why it's not used in this manner. Same reason we don't use aluminum or carbon fiber in bullets. In certain applications, like bullets, the mass is more important than the speed to transfer the energy you want to accomplish the purpose you want.
@@maybehuman4 absolutely not true. This is why lighter faster bullets are better. The equation is kinetic energy = 1/2 (mass * velocity^2) so energy increases much more rapidly by varying velocity than mass
@@Grunttamer This is completely false. Otherwise all bullets would be made of aluminum by now instead of LEAD. Aluminum is lighter, stronger, and faster. But we use LEAD for a reason. Care to guess why?
The carbon fibre saga is getting better with every entry
I would add rebar. Put wire mesh in the middle to keep cracks from processing.
I think it was teaching tech channel that has a way to make graphene, that can be added to the resin to significantly increase strength as well.
Shad going ham on that wood as Tyranth and Nate rush to stop him in slow mo is just priceless.
I was just going to the comments to post this 🤣
I loved that moment to :D
Pure Office Space vibes.
It actually looks staged it's so perfect lmao.
Shad was just having so much fun with the thing
Shadiversity team roles:
Shad - the enthusiast
Nate - the safety zealot
Tyranth - the engineer
15:15 - Not very zealous!! >XD
@@TheEyez187 I'm sorry, I don't get what you mean :s
Hey look buddy, im an engineer
That means i solve problems.
Not problems like what is beauty, because that would fall under your own philosophical conundrums.
...
I solve practical problems
If you face into problem and couldn't solve it, use a gun.
and if that don't work, use more gun.
Like this heavy tripod-mounted 13mm caliber sentry gun designed by me. built by me.
and you best hope... not pointed at you.
@@pennymac16 The wearing of the safety goggles didn't last very long! :D
@@TheEyez187 I guess you have a point. Maybe Nate isn't very good at his job of basically a self-appointed workplace safety commisioner :P
That blade is friggin terrifying actually but it’d be dope to see something similar in a gladius-machete type of hybrid blade that could be used for hiking and camping. Super impressive build quality guys
ehh for something like a manchette i would rather have the weight so it is easier to power through brush
I really like this format where you're not just discussion things theoretically, but actually building and testing them!
21:42 Shad‘s look in this scene cracks me up.
Plus, that stress test was really impressive!
each day that shad's team stays together the closer we get to monsterhunter timeline
it's coming
ruclips.net/user/clipUgkxOAVTjv8erLnySUSAI6v9KgLZF3SUcGf1
Proof of a hero rising in the background.
When his castle becomes the first MH guild
@@lazylonewolf Makes sense that the first MH guild would be in Australia
would be interesting to test the big hammer. if you could make it lighter but remain enough weight with a strong core in the middle to still have a big punch
One thing to consider, is that regardless of its use as a combat blade? This type of blade would be great for brush clearing.
Nothing is Cooler than corny done right and Shad has got to be among the top five Coolest dudes on the internet. Always a pleasure watching his content.
The date on the blade shows that this was filmed 2 days ago. Jeez guys, you are working super hard to deliver the videos! I am amazed and have humongous respect for your dedication.
They made us wait 2 days?!
@@zwenkwiel816 bro, editing takes time
Pretty sure he was making a joke ... Or at least if sure hope so xD
@@dbio305 nah man I do that shit all the time, windows movie maker is easy......
That carbon fibre blade is actually very impressive.
19:15 „You expect everything to be weaker than it is.“ „Because it is!“
Flawless logic
This is like actual science stuff since I really haven't seen someone try a practical Carbon Fiber Sword. If I was rich I'd be an investor and ask you guys to make me one.
I feel sorry for Tyranth who's clearly trying to be practical and realistic while Shad gets all excited at the possibilities. You can tell that at some point Tyranth has had to talk Shad down from some truly mad project ideas.
Never change guys, I love seeing the passion.
Shad I am a young archeologist and love history and your videos thank you for all your hard work to make these videos great
I love how you guys started with a Seax as a test for a carbon fiber blade
20:47 The look on Shad's face when he hits the 2X4 with a carbon fiber blade...and then realizes he can keep doing it.
Shad was behaving like a caveman that discovered a new tool in this video, the wide eyes and thumbs up in the first pool noodle cut, the 'ugh?' after the first 2x4 hit followed by the hammering, etc... it was funny
Shad was purring after every strike in slow motion. It gotta be incredibly satisfying 😂
you guys have such good chemisty and as a fellow engineer i full understand the "its just a prototype" thing like whenever i want to show something that isnt a finished product to someone i find myself saying this a million times
Lmao Shad going off and getting carried away at hammering the crap out of wood beam was hilarious
@razzo086 I was thinking the scene of Blinken attacking the pillar in Robin Hood: Men in Tights
As a (hobbyist) custom knifemaker, I find these videos fascinating. Great work, all!
Tyranth is a craftsman after my own heart. Insane pride in his work to the point you can see he wants to go all in on the prototype and make it as beautiful a piece as possible. Seriously fun series
Edit: though I've seen it in a ton of videos, Nates form when he swings is 🤌. He's like a loaded spring and when he starts moving, he's already finished.
Tyranth is the guy who was really expecting the blade to crack when hacking at the wood.
The younger bearded one
Nate makes a cut so clean it reseals the bottle and the water stays inside.
It's also interesting to note how Shad and Tyranth reflexively close their eyes when they hit the water body. Especially Tyranth, his eyes are practically closed during the entire follow-through. Nate on the other hand has nothing more than a quick blink.
With every Shadiversity I grow closer and closer to filling a compendium of “Alternative Fantasy” weapons.
A light blade as strong as it’s heavier counterparts? Magical Item my dudes.
Amazing videos! I love the direction the channel has taken; the interesting projects you've come up with and the chemistry between the team is a perfect mix between passion and goofiness that just makes you happy to watch. Keep up and I hope you get all the support you need!
Wow, a super chat. Take my comment!
+1
Shad your expression and excitement when you descirbe how fast the sword is going to be at 29:20 made my day. 😄
Slow motion Shad showing wood who's boss is peak internet joy. Only by wearing Guts armour while slicing a tree down with The Titan could it get better.
@@manubishe The sequence starts around 20:45. Even slowed down Shad sounds like a tiger wreaking havoc.
I like the 'distinguished sword saint' look Shad is working. Longer hair works! And the tests and banter just makes me smile!
*Isshin flashbacks*
Thanks! Shad and crew you guys have inspired me and my illustrative work for over 3 years! Thank you and may the carbon fiber MAYHEM CONTINUE!
There was nothing more hilarious than that slowmo and shad just waling on that piece of wood 🤣🤣
I make things with carbon fibre all the time and it might be worth looking into the forged fibre method with chopped tow. Due to the fibres being in a more random orientation i find it to be considerably stiffer than the woven fabric meaning you can make thinner and lighter parts, although the manufacturing process would be more difficult.
Dudes! Your are asking for support and are f-ing delivering! This video and peeks on future projects show that. It's not much, but please accept this. Much love from a Brazilian fan.
Nate definitely had the best edge alignment on the water bottle, with how insanely clean he cut. Masterful design too Tyranth.
My predictions were Indeed Wrong...but hey atleast we Learnt things
This is your best project ever. So interesting to see how the Giant Sword will turn out! And Tyrant and Nate are really good additions to the channel. Love to see you three working together so well.
12:20 I adore these 3.
He just bowled over, showung the damgage. Showing the craftsmanship, swordsmanship and his own damn charisma.
I dunno, maybe im a drunkard peasant, but I think they are coop
Just love how the "Giant Sword Saga" is going.
Suggestion of video: Crocodile Dundee as a medieval RPG character.
These types of videos deserve WAY more views. It’s so sad to hear how you are struggling. Keep doing what you’re doing!!! It’s some of the best content out there!!!
What's been going on? Been a long time since I've been here.
@@fa-ajn9881 If I'm not mistaken they are talking about the RUclips algorithm. It has been an issue for this main channel because of the live streams he is doing. They now unlist the archive version of them and link to those elsewhere because having the live streams listed on the same channel were preventing the regular videos from being recommended. Meaning all the views were coming from subscribers seeking out the content themselves. Shad can see in analytics. View count is down for the simple reason YT keeps changing what it wants. First it 10 minutes for ads, then it was livestreams, and now its shorts. But that's just how the site works. It's counterintuitive and inconsistent. Sometimes you work harder and YT screws you for it.
@@wolokowoh0 He should make a separate channel for the livestreams which is what most multi-form content creators are doing now.
@@Saskaruto16 Yeah it's still a dumb issue though. Especially since Shad already has multiple channels and the livestreams on Knights Watch don't affect Knights Watch recommendations but do on Shadiversity despite the fact Knights Watch also does long form content in addition to livestreams. The subject matter is different, but its the same type of video. The topics of the livestreams on Shadiversity fit the Shadiversity channel which is why he is doing them here. So soon Shad is going have to five or six channels just for the algorithm is screwed up. His solution to unlist them and provide a link elsewhere is easier to manage on his end.
@@wolokowoh0 Yeah RUclips algorithm and systems are honestly just trash. Everyone having to work around them so much is terrible especially when it was so much more effective and accurate to what we as viewers wanted to see years ago.
Tyranth like any perfectionist, "This isn't beautiful, this is a prototype."
I love this. You are basically making a very large scalpel. More of a slicer than a chopper and very devastating in the hands of someone with quick reflexes. It would be superior on being dragged through the inside of joints or possibly with a serrated edge to enhance the cutting like a shark tooth.
Fantastic progress. Showing the testing and development steps is great.
Can’t wait to see the full sword getting built up. Gonna be DOPE.
21:34 So much pride in Shad in this clip. I'm so happy for you guys that you get to have so much fun with this stuff!
If the titan sword works out well, you should try to make a longsword! I'm curious as to how light and effective it could be.
We'll be making a longsword first, to test a midrange size and it's rigidity and another blade attachment method.
Oh, nice. I imagine fast tip cuts are going to be kind of crazy with the leverage and velocity of such a light and stiff longsword.
@@shadiversity If you're still on the Carbon fiber hype train, after the TITAN SWORD. i would love to recommend an over sized videogame/anime Halberd or one of those "great axe" weapons.
That is assuming you still get the funding, and are still enjoying the process of making oversized weapons functional.
I just love the new "coming soon" segments at the end of each video. I love seeing what you guys have in store for us.
Oke you know what. You guys convinced me to get my first channel membership. :D
You guys always provide me with hours of entertainment and making videos like this is bloody expensive. I hope it helps you guys keep doing it in the future!
I like the moment from 23:35 to 23:42 when Nate first gives a quick answer but then suddenly realizes what the actual question was. I just thought it was a wholesome moment seeing his thought process
The editing of Shad chopping that wood was hilarious! These videos keep getting better.
Jeez! The video turnout lately is wild. Just watched the last carbon fiber video before bed last night and wake up to this.
This series reminds me of the good old days of the early youtube. Keep it up guys!
22:11
Shad's smugness on the "Still held up though" had me rolling. Lost the battle, won the war? xD
Been watching your channel since 2016 always loved the variety of topics you cover it is always something different which keeps the channel interesting its not much but hope it helps
Can we talk about how he cut the bottle and it didn’t move!!! Do you know how much skill that takes? That means his slice was almost geometrically STRAIGHT and strong.
He channel his inner weeb... I mean... SAMURAI.
I think Tyranth might have been crying during his swings in the durability test after Shad just went Hog-wild.
"As soon as it takes a small critical failure it starts to critically fail." OceanGate could have used your help.
You chaps have really hit your stride with making videos together. Great to see!
I’m really enjoying this. It’s reminding me of Brandon Herrera and his series where he’s building the AK-50. Both series give a lot of insight into the R&D process, as well as break down the actual science behind mechanical design and why things are built the way they’re built. All while being easy to digest and extremely entertaining. It kinda makes me want to see the two channels collaborate.
Are we starting the "where's the Giant sword shad?" Meme
@@windigowhispers I’m on board.
Shad and Brandon Herrera making a modern gun sword? I'm in.
@@jasonalen7459 I feel like we’d get some real WH40K shit out of it.
It would be cool but I'm not sure they would get along very well.
I did NOT expect it to do this well. I shared your sentiment and thought the blade would detach, but wow it is much more durable than I thought
The carbon fiber blades are the most exciting videos u have done yet, keep it up U guys loving the content
God bless you all! Exquisitely done video. I look forward as always. To the next one!
i've followed all the full story and i am really looking forward for more, you really psyched me up
This is the coolest project I've seen
This is existing! Looking forward to the final design.
I would love a video where you go through all of the design ideas you had for this build, all of your sketches, tests, brainstorming sessions etc.
The new additions are golden these dudes really know there stuff
You got my support Shad and crew! Loved your content for a while and it is only getting better. First youtube channel where I became a member, and well deserved. Keep up the good work!
Thank you so much!
You know? That bit at the end where you’re arguing about attachment methods and cost of materials was a super believable way to plug the subscription sites 😂
I felt like at 21:30 it was to the point where Tyranth was like "Come on you mother BREAK, UGH BREAK, CRACK, FRACTURE, SNAP!" With each hit haha. Gosh this channel is going to make history, this is exhilarating! If I didn't just buy a house i'd be investing in the channel because i feel like this is historically important to make this sword. I need to see a massive sword be usable and i'm having hope that it is possible!
I love the three grown men. "We need to cut more. Yeah, lets cut some more stuff up." Exactly what I would be doing.
If you would take thicker carbon fiber you could use a stronger blade. You could also combine carbon fiber with other materials like thin aluminium to reach better properties like other composite materials do. Naturally it would be heavier but I think it would be lighter than a steel sword of same size.
I can't wait to see the larger version. I think the added size and weight combined with its cutting ability will be very cool to see.
Tyranth lives in a world of cardboard, everything breaks around him
Shad has mastered the “I was right” strut.
Really cool video guys! As someone who works with composites on a daily basis, I did have a few thoughts.
Primarily, if you want this to behave more "sword-like", another option to explore would be fiberglass. Fiberglass is almost as strong in terms of fracture stress, and has the added advantage of being more flexible/has more strain to failure. The downsides would be you loose a bit of strength-to-weight and some stiffness, however there's some ways to mitigate that along with some manufacturing to fix that. for example, you could build up a fiberglass core, with the blade embedded inside it, and then add carbon fiber over the outside surfaces, essentially making a type of sandwich composite to increase flexural strength/stiffness (this is how I make rocket fins). Other options would include any kind of core material used for composites, a honeycomb core would help a lot and have minimal mass.
Coming to the manufacturing, I highly, highly suggest that you try a vacuum bagging process. You wouldn't have to change anything about the mold setup, and would have the benefit of reducing thickness per layer, as well as removing excess resin from the laminate decreasing part density even more.
A note about the blade attachment. I think the way you did it this time was pretty darn good, I would just mirror it on the other side. So when doing the layup, lay some carbon fiber/reinforcement down first, build up some thickness behind the blade, then add the blade blank treated with mold release, and add more layers on top.
Overall, a really good prototype! Definitely room for improvement, but you guys are on the right track!
I started watching this, and it pegged the Nerd-o-meter on my desk.
Excellent work, i appreciate the effort and dedication to this build, dispite your distain (or that of your past self) for this style of blade. This is truly an entertaining series
Tyranth was ABSOLUTELY trying to break it, not just trying to test it after that first strike on the board
The evolution of the channel is really kicking off, now. It's not just another sword channel; it's really coming into its own. I'll repeat what I said about A Knight's Tale last video: After this, try to make the tipped lance with the "spun sugar" fist! Also, break down the movie! 😁
P.S. Tyranth literally cut through a screw...damn!
I like that you spread it out over so many videos. it's not boring because you share the progress and reasons for your steps.
LOL your excitement is contagious i am excited for the sword version.
😂 the stress test was hilarious! This collaboration is awesome!
20:47 is beautifull. The music, the slow-mo, the Shad-growl, and both of them in the background trying to stop him 😂
As a long time hobby bladesmith im really just fascinated by this build series, really cool stuff. I thought that maybe a steelblade tip with a crosssection formed like a arrow-tip would be great for re-sharpening as well as to dampen the strain that is applied to the carbon to steel connection. But surely, this is a cool project, keep it up. You guys made me instantly think and draw some prototypes regarding, blade-profiles and meanings of connection from steel to carbon. Got me hooked.
Not gonna lie, watching shad hacking that wood block was hilarious 😂. "Ya baby!"
These men are out here building a new blade to add to history using RUclips to fund them. Don't need kings anymore.
Keep up the good work gents.
This explains the leveling up and increasing damage you get. As game blade weilders got experience, they figured out new techniques and better edge alignment. Cool
The age old questiom:
What weighs more:
1kilo of carbon fibre
Or 1kilo of steel?
Evidently the steel, as steel is heavier than carbon fibre
same weight😄
1 kilo of carbon fibre as you have to carry the weight responsibility of hazardous chemicals and not knowing what your creations will lead towards.
"I don't get it."
@@Oceanbestie 1kg of anything = 1kg of anything ... doeasn't matter what you weigh ... the volume might be different but that wasn't the question!
Man it's so nice to see the production quality in the videos go up, even the camerawork is getting better and better!
Keep up the good work!
They do need to fix the autofocus problem.
Really excited to see where this is going!
they do make a kevlar carbon fiber weave mat, i wonder if that would help with durability also a harder steal for the edge would help too.
Shad has gone from sword nerd, to swordsman, and now hes entering his jedi phase.
This actually makes me way more worried for the larger blade. If you're demonstrating that the blade is being cleaved when it bounces less I think the bigger the sword is the more likely that another sword bites into it. And then after it has one point of real damage it will likely snap like that end test.
Well, but for real condition, is not likely you will get the condition that your Blade would be put stuck as immovable as possible. So in Sparring it's not likely the steel one would snapped the carbon fiber one. Same thing like how it's unlikely to happen you can cut and a snapped a Spear pole with a sword in a real combat.
As the size scales up, so would the mass, which may help mitigate that issue slightly, but it is worrying because that won't change its resistance to pressure (which is effectively what cutting is, applying intense pressure on a small surface area). The increased mass would make the sword less likely to bounce... so if the problem persists, it becomes a matter of figuring out the correct ratios, how much carbon fiber and how much of a hardier material to use to optimize the design, sticking to the goal of reduced density so you can take advantage of increased threat range and increased striking power due to the longer lever.
@@dontmisunderstand6041 yeah I think realistically the weakest point of the design is how little steel is used on the edge. If they increased the depth of it a little bit it might be able to take more of a bite before the carbon fiber itself got pierced
@@valren2990 the depth/width of the steel strip for the cutting edge isn't the biggest issue it is the hardness and thickness. Shad purchased 0.5mm thick high carbon spring steel strips for these experiments. that's the strip they used for the edge of this 'knife'. for comparison, a sheet of standard copy paper is around 0.07-0.10mm thick. so on the high-end paper that would be FIVE sheets of paper thick. most metal swords' cutting edges get thicker than that less than 1mm away from the contact point of a cut. but in their materials and planning video they did not mention how wide the strips were. but i will agree, they are quite narrow and that would be a factor if a sword fight was a static clamped down blade vs a moving blade like the final stress test in this video.
but unlike Hollywood etc. would tell/show you, a true sword fight isn't all about clanging steel and sword binds where the opponents face each other off in a test of strength. so as long as the Titan sword wielder doesn't repeatedly bash metal edges of their sword on the opponent's sword... i think these steel strips will survive their first encounter with combat.
Now THAT is a NOIF!
been waiting for this one, cheers.
great stuff! maybe a CF estoc or other pointy/quick blade. play to its strength (speed) and don't look for bashing/momentum cuts.
I love how, when testing the carbon saxx, he realized it was holding up. The moment it clicked was captured followed by fury!