Evaluating the story of every major Pokemon game from generation 1-7

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  • Опубликовано: 13 май 2024
  • Well that took way longer than expected.
    Join me in this feature length film as I slowly lose my sanity over Pokemon stories from generation 1-7.
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    Songs:
    A handful of songs from all the main Pokemon games
    Ketamine by Versatile
    Sexually Suggestive Knuckles Theme by Swordy: / sexually-suggestive-kn...
    In The Hall Of The Otamatone King by andrew_howes: / in-the-hall-of-the-ota...
    Prancing Dad by Prince uf Darkness: • OC ReMix #2388: Final ...
    Title theme from Solstice
    "Legendary Slam" part of "The Great Pokeslam" by ZVAARI: • The Great Pokéslam
    Outdoor Lounge from the Huniepop OST
    Timestamps:
    00:00- Intro
    01:01 - Red/Blue
    9:57 - Gold/Silver
    20:31 - Ruby/Sapphire
    34:31 - Diamond/Pearl
    51:10 - Black/White
    01:19:55 - Black 2/White 2
    01:37:14 - X/Y
    02:15:51 - Sun/Moon
    02:51:44- Final thoughts
    02:53:20- Outro
    This video is brought to you by please no more pokemon games for awhile.
    Thanks for watching!
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Комментарии • 8 тыс.

  • @TheSaltFactory
    @TheSaltFactory  4 года назад +5202

    Here's some timestamps for those who want to skip around between games in this feature length film:
    1:01 - Red/Blue
    9:57 - Gold/Silver
    20:31 - Ruby/Sapphire
    34:31 - Diamond/Pearl
    51:10 - Black/White
    1:19:55 - Black 2/White 2
    1:37:14 - X/Y
    2:15:51 - Sun/Moon
    Next video is Skyrim. Sorry this one took so damn long, and sorry for the ads. I kind of need them just because I didn't get anything out for 2 months. Thanks for your patience!

    • @mekudu-man3804
      @mekudu-man3804 4 года назад +231

      you should've covered the endgame story from Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire - it is straight up about different dimensions and how to not make people suffer there, because there are some machines that use resources that have bad consequences for people in these other dimensions. Shit's wild, man,

    • @Randerson2409
      @Randerson2409 4 года назад +97

      Don't worry about time between vids or for ads. I know some people might get pissy, but I for one will always be waiting for a new upload

    • @marc-antoinehamelin1625
      @marc-antoinehamelin1625 4 года назад +27

      shit man, its so on the nose. i laugh so hard im pretty sure i woke the neighbor...

    • @AwestynJaxxxson
      @AwestynJaxxxson 4 года назад +18

      Pokemon Colosseum?

    • @myfellowsonicfans7131
      @myfellowsonicfans7131 4 года назад +37

      M e K u D u - man it’s so fucking poorly written though, Zinnia just expects you and everyone else to believe there MIGHT be another universe out there based on NO evidence and curses the entire known world to destruction based on a theory she has.
      It’s really stupid if you think about it... also she gets torn apart by Rayquazza in one of the Manga’s

  • @gabesuplee2203
    @gabesuplee2203 4 года назад +11366

    About N- he doesn’t actually keep his Pokémon, all the Pokémon he has are always around the area you’re in

    • @perkypears
      @perkypears 4 года назад +2683

      This is actually genius and I have never heard of this before. I love that

    • @belablanck
      @belablanck 4 года назад +3253

      In Black 2 and White 2 you can actually find N's released pokemon in the wild.

    • @edhead7172
      @edhead7172 4 года назад +1117

      @@belablanck I believe you need to activate Unova Link for this to occur.

    • @raspberrypie1706
      @raspberrypie1706 4 года назад +1471

      That's actually a really cool detail, reminds me of pokemon ranger where you always release yur pokemon when you're done with he area you find them in.

    • @TheSpectralForce
      @TheSpectralForce 4 года назад +1465

      No pokemon story will ever beat B&W. It's probably the bravest they will ever get with a pokemon story

  • @GynxShinx
    @GynxShinx 4 года назад +3060

    Pokémon game has no story: Why does this story suck?
    Pokémon game has a story: Why can't I just go fight a gym?

    • @commonviewer2488
      @commonviewer2488 4 года назад +714

      There's an ideal balance between plot and player freedom that's not often found in these games.

    • @friendlyelites
      @friendlyelites 4 года назад +350

      To be fair, Black/White bloated the game with the story considering it ends at what would be the mid-point of other pokemon games. Half the map is also completely inaccessible until you defeat Ghetsis and enter the postgame.

    • @fumomofumosarum5893
      @fumomofumosarum5893 4 года назад +82

      because bad writers. really bad story writers.

    • @Gfreak250
      @Gfreak250 4 года назад +75

      Sir, this is a Mystery Dungeon Game.

    • @friendlyelites
      @friendlyelites 4 года назад +327

      @@fumomofumosarum5893 No, the writing in Black and White is fine, good even. However the pacing is bad because of the timeframe all the story content is given to the player in.

  • @ZourlemonZ
    @ZourlemonZ 2 года назад +1774

    Ruby/Sapphire's plot seemed silly, but it was actually based off of real discussions happening in Japan at the time. The Isahaya Bay project in Kyushu (which is also the place in Japan the Hoenn region is based on) was mostly a conflict between fisherman and farmers in western Kyushu, due to a sea wall built in the inner part of Isahaya Bay, to allow a reclamation of land from the Airake Sea. This in turn, caused annual depleting catches of shellfish, prawns, crabs, and groundfishes. It's also caused many other problems to the Airake Sea's ecosystem. Hence why Team Magma (adapted from supporters of the Isahaya land reclamation project) and Team Aqua (those who are against the project, and want the Airake Sea's ecosystem to be repaired) are the way they are. In hindsight, Team Aqua and Magma didn't translate well gloabaly, but when given the context, it adds greatly to the story. :D

    • @Shiekism
      @Shiekism Год назад +124

      I also wanted to mention this! I thought it was a really interesting. Its a shame that salt doesn't really research much before sharing his opinions..

    • @Hartono25277
      @Hartono25277 Год назад +49

      I didn't know this! Cool to know local issue inspired a global game plot

    • @KryxtianBlack
      @KryxtianBlack Год назад +10

      seriously !? thank you for sharing this

    • @PatchesNjose
      @PatchesNjose Год назад +135

      @@Shiekism Most pokemon fans didn't know this tho

    • @thehucklebillyfenn
      @thehucklebillyfenn Год назад +111

      Makes me wish they would’ve attempted to be a little more elicit in their allegory. They should’ve had team Aqua lean more into trying to make money with fishing or maybe boat making if the entire world was gonna be plunged in water and magma should’ve been trying to make money through agriculture. Both of these groups could’ve still been using the money for world domination and it stops the idiotic motive of getting rid of all water in magma’s case which would doom the world for obvious reasons. Instead we get villains that make laughably no sense.

  • @zephyrstrife4668
    @zephyrstrife4668 9 месяцев назад +72

    One small thing about the Sun/Moon story early on; If you manage to defeat Kahuna Hala without using any Z-moves, he actually remarks about it after the fight. It doesn't change the story all that much, but it was something fun that I found out completely on accident in my original blind playthrough of the game.

  • @infnew5343
    @infnew5343 3 года назад +2952

    Something I thought was cool is how they gave Ghetsis’s Hydragon, his strongest and most used pokemon, the move frustration, the move which increases in power the lower your friendship. They incorporated the main antagonist’s ideals of how Pokemon are only for power not only into the story, but also in the gameplay

    • @scottishboy112
      @scottishboy112 3 года назад +613

      On the flip side, Cheren says in Striaton city that items will be his focus and from almost every battle onwards he does give his Pokemon hold items to boost them up.
      Bianca also goes on about her love for Pokemon and their friendship... And every one of her Pokemon knows Return which takes advantage of that.
      B/W went into all the little details story wise that sadly a lot of people don’t seem to appreciate. Gen 5 was probably the most ambitious they’ll be story wise.

    • @frog2444
      @frog2444 3 года назад +194

      Ghetsis is a bit of a gamer (animal abuser 😎)

    • @denkerbosu3551
      @denkerbosu3551 3 года назад +111

      @@scottishboy112 dunno, it seems B&W are generally considered the ones with the best story.

    • @frog2444
      @frog2444 3 года назад +60

      @@denkerbosu3551 yeah I would say bw and sm have the best stories in the series

    • @toughlondonman
      @toughlondonman 3 года назад +86

      Another nice touch about ghetisis is that in bw2 his hydragon has a life orb which hurts it each turn

  • @lillyofthegalley
    @lillyofthegalley 4 года назад +948

    26:40
    gen 100 player: *walks near a bike shop*
    Bike shop owner: *tosses a bike out the window with a note that says "just take it and leave me alone, i'm tired."*

    • @mellow6751
      @mellow6751 4 года назад +75

      gen 200 bike shop owner straight up hunts you down and kills you with a bike

    • @christophermartinez4104
      @christophermartinez4104 4 года назад +84

      Gen 300, the player is the bike

    • @ironwill6148
      @ironwill6148 4 года назад +55

      Christopher Martinez Gen 400, instead of selling games Gamefreak starts selling bikes.

    • @xstarforcex990
      @xstarforcex990 4 года назад +43

      Gen 500 gamefreaks employees are the bikes

    • @dylangallagher143
      @dylangallagher143 4 года назад +28

      Gen 1000 gamefreak offers their mothers as bikes, they're always up for a ride.

  • @rowanwallace6721
    @rowanwallace6721 Год назад +69

    I choose to believe that Jasmine wouldn't leave Amphy because Amphy was sick and was basically the lighthouse's lightbulb, so Amphy needed to be nursed back to full health so that boats could safely travel nearby. Jasmine was protecting the lives of sailors and passengers, albeit not efficiently but she was.
    The Ampharos' name is Amphy...

  • @alexisstone468
    @alexisstone468 2 года назад +176

    2:16:15 it makes sense that nebby isn't in a PokeBall at this point. Lily wasn't a trainer. She was just trying to escape with nebby. She probably wasn't allowed to use them.

    • @tootsie_
      @tootsie_ Год назад +6

      Yeah but the balls are 200p, and children also use them. Never been a mention of any regulation at all anywhere ever.

    • @juneroughs
      @juneroughs Год назад +10

      @@tootsie_ if she's been inside aether foundation, i'm not sure where she can buy pokeballs...from what i remember, we can only purchase beast balls there but they were unlocked after defeating aether foundation.

    • @tootsie_
      @tootsie_ Год назад +2

      @@juneroughs true, but also immediately after she could have bought a ball?

    • @juneroughs
      @juneroughs Год назад +7

      @@tootsie_ possibly, another point could be, she's not a pokemon trainer at that time so capturing a pokemon in a pokeball is not on her mind.

    • @tootsie_
      @tootsie_ Год назад +2

      @@juneroughs yeah but she's literally surrounded by trainers on all sides? You're saying she wouldn't put 2 and 2 together at some point?

  • @geo_licious
    @geo_licious 3 года назад +2416

    N is the only one in Team Plasma that obeys their ideals. He releases his Pokemon after each battle, and catches Pokemon in the next area. It's a nice touch. When he realizes he's been tricked, he goes all over the region and catches the strongest Pokemon he can find.

    • @littlekingbaku5092
      @littlekingbaku5092 2 года назад +416

      I like to personally think that he doesn't catch them but instead since he can talk to them, the pokemon willingly fight for him

    • @jjones3064
      @jjones3064 2 года назад +100

      @@littlekingbaku5092 or he has a pokestyler

    • @littlekingbaku5092
      @littlekingbaku5092 2 года назад +9

      @@jjones3064 fair point

    • @jjones3064
      @jjones3064 2 года назад +40

      @@littlekingbaku5092 he could be a ranger

    • @ChangedMyNameFinally69
      @ChangedMyNameFinally69 2 года назад +3

      So he becomes a bad person?

  • @DatHypnoboi
    @DatHypnoboi 2 года назад +1772

    I think Giovanni had the right idea. If I was a mob boss and got beat up multiple times by a couple 10 year olds, I'd probably just give up too.

    • @aprinnyonbreak1290
      @aprinnyonbreak1290 2 года назад +152

      To be fair.
      You arm your troops with literally the worst available pokemon, then become dismayed when you lose. I think it was on purpose. I think Giovanni wanted out of the game, and knew the only way you can leave the mob is as an act of wounded pride.

    • @yellowgetbright
      @yellowgetbright 2 года назад +51

      If I were a mob boss, I would've just called my grunts to whack the kid....with actual weapons lmao

    • @nathansarfo1768
      @nathansarfo1768 2 года назад +65

      @@yellowgetbright I think Pokémon could probably survive most weapons. If they can survive fire, electrocution, and just raw blunt force than I don’t think things like guns or knives would kill them.

    • @lUseMyBlade
      @lUseMyBlade 2 года назад +61

      @@nathansarfo1768 don't forget the
      Psychic shit too i think Alakazam could stop a gun.

    • @nathansarfo1768
      @nathansarfo1768 2 года назад +6

      @@lUseMyBlade that too

  • @AisSora
    @AisSora 2 года назад +105

    1:13:55 I think it's a localization issue; In Japanese, even if two siblings are twins, it matters who basically was born first and that would be the older sibling.

  • @BlackWizardClub
    @BlackWizardClub 2 года назад +179

    I'm actually shocked by Sun and moon's plot being the most well thought out and executed, especially after the complete bomb plot wise that was X and Y. I never made it past the first island in sun though, because the hand holding just about brought me to tears. There really should be an on/off for stuff like that. I've played pokemon since I was 5, I do not need to be told how to catch pokemon or what a pokemon center looks like. Sun just took it too far with that and now I see I missed out on something good because I just couldn't get past that. I guess I'll finally dust off my copy of Sun. As a hugeeeeee fan of Black and White I really appreciated this video and I'm glad you took on this massive undertaking.

    • @Dudebox64
      @Dudebox64 Год назад +19

      one day there'll be a mod for Sun/Moon that'll let you skip the cutscenes. One day.

    • @rhythmicwindu4262
      @rhythmicwindu4262 4 месяца назад +2

      I recently played through all the main series games, and yeahhh sun/moon and the ultra versions have so many forced cutscenes and so much handholding that you’ll go crazy

    • @BlackWizardClub
      @BlackWizardClub 4 месяца назад +5

      @@rhythmicwindu4262 the funny part is I recently gifted sun to my niece as her first pokemon game since she's only 3 and learning how to read. It came highly reccomend for young gamers for the very reason I couldn't play it. It served it's exact purpose

    • @TheLastSpider-Man
      @TheLastSpider-Man 3 месяца назад

      If you can tolerate the tutorials, Sun and Moon are really appealing games. The Alola Region is beautiful, I really like the Pokemon introduced in this generation, and the characters all have much more personality than the cast of XY. Lusamine was a more entertaining villain than Lysandre, Hau was fun and enjoyable to see unlike the XY rivals, and I really enjoyed Gladion and Lillie's story

    • @calliecalamity8787
      @calliecalamity8787 3 месяца назад

      The ultra games are arguably an even better experience

  • @billygranzow1331
    @billygranzow1331 4 года назад +444

    Archie's entire motivation in 9 words.
    “Yo ho yo ho, a pirate's life for me”

    • @RayOfTruth
      @RayOfTruth 4 года назад +7

      I got the impression that his deal was restoring lost habitat for marine life, especially in Alpha Sapphire.

    • @42Caio
      @42Caio 4 года назад +28

      @@RayOfTruth in Alpha Sapphire only. In the original RSE both his and Maxie's plans aren't really elaborated on.
      The thing with Maxie wanting more land to counter overpopulation and resource drain vs Archie thinking human society is bleeding the world dry and that it needs to be destroyed and start over to safeguard nature and Pokémon was only introduced in the remakes

    • @HomemadeArtistry
      @HomemadeArtistry 4 года назад +25

      He sailed the seven seas, and now he wants to sail another one

    • @devyboo2
      @devyboo2 4 года назад +4

      Archie just wants to find One Piece

  • @Tronerfull
    @Tronerfull 4 года назад +801

    That elite four girl that disrespects you for stopping lyssandre was in fact a team flare member. She was working with Lyssandre and was very close to him.

    • @kakyiondonut6084
      @kakyiondonut6084 3 года назад +6

      Tronerfull and was lysandre’s wit but ok.

    • @zero63x6
      @zero63x6 3 года назад +107

      Lmao how was that not obvious? She was wearing part of the outfit, the glasses and the hair how could you not realize she was part of Team Flare.

    • @assordante2205
      @assordante2205 3 года назад +143

      @@zero63x6 when you've played 6 Pokemon games in a row, I think you could forgive the dude for not giving a shit about the dialogue for a minute.

    • @elissabjeletichdavis4011
      @elissabjeletichdavis4011 3 года назад +22

      yeah, in the manga shes a full fledged member, i belive in it she was an admin

    • @fatuusdottore
      @fatuusdottore 3 года назад +61

      She was clearly fucking Lysandre and it must have been good considering how upset she is.

  • @batatafrita2783
    @batatafrita2783 2 года назад +484

    Sun and moon's team skull felt like a breath of fresh air, they are not evil, they are just there, they are funny enough and never take themselves seriously, and god...Guzma is strong, I'd say he's stronger than Giovanni(comparing the first time you battle the boss for each of them and personal experience), you go unprepared and boom, you loss

    • @jokerswild2380
      @jokerswild2380 11 месяцев назад +13

      Team Skull just being a bunch of goofy punks is the best thing ever. Literally my favorite team.
      Admittedly, Team Yell is also pretty wholesome.

    • @oldfrozenwolf6803
      @oldfrozenwolf6803 11 месяцев назад +13

      @@jokerswild2380 I guess but the difference is that team skull is an actual group of delinquents that do try to do bad stuff team yell are just simps and now team star is just a bunch of students Skiping class team skull was the best because they were wholesome but didn't completely betray the entire idea of being actual bad guys

    • @briankelly130
      @briankelly130 11 месяцев назад +8

      It's not a breath of fresh air anymore since every team after Sun/Moon is just Team Skull but less and less malicious.

    • @thespacebat
      @thespacebat 9 месяцев назад +6

      And then Team Yell feels like they tried to do the same thing but it was just bad and annoying.

    • @wildfire9280
      @wildfire9280 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@thespacebat Literally “I’m you but worse!”.

  • @the_dpad
    @the_dpad 2 года назад +95

    2:13:30 I don't recall when it comes up, but you do eventually find out that Malva of the Elite Four (who's also been making video news reports in a similar way to Lysandre all game) was actually also a member of Team Flare.

    • @shadowrosegaming3566
      @shadowrosegaming3566 Год назад

      Isn't she lysandre sister? I heard she was from somewhere

    • @NintendoMeister2260
      @NintendoMeister2260 Год назад

      Than why would she be trusted to be a elite four member?

    • @elywahl9520
      @elywahl9520 6 месяцев назад

      ​@@NintendoMeister2260Giovanni

  • @Saiku
    @Saiku 4 года назад +5171

    It's pretty much been established that a gym leader will use a stronger pokemon team vs trainers with more badges. While the games force us to clear them in order for game reasons, in the lore they change up their team based on how many badges a challenger currently has. In the Pokemon Origins anime Brock asks Red how many badges he has, since Red has none Brock says "Okay, I'll battle you with these two Pokemon then."

    • @drewpagie9485
      @drewpagie9485 4 года назад +776

      It actually happens in Silver, that is why the Kanto Gym Leaders don't just kill over when you fight them in post game.

    • @joshuakim5240
      @joshuakim5240 4 года назад +1057

      Yeah all of the gym leaders have made it clear since Emerald that the teams they use when you first fight them is the team that they use in accordance to your current badges (this is greatly expanded upon in the manga and anime series), as the Pokemon League is a sanctioned sports program that can't have their testers (gym leaders) just smash poor Jimmy's lvl 12 Charmander with a lvl 62 Golem.
      It's also implied based on Gen2 having Koga promoted to the Elite4 and Iris becoming champion in B/W2 that all of the gym leaders are League battlers who are eligible to compete for Elite4 and Champion spots. All of the gym leaders with their best teams have insanely strong teams that they don't use against anyone but fellow League battlers because they have the courtesy of not bullying people below their power level like assholes.

    • @piratenerdz1602
      @piratenerdz1602 4 года назад +415

      I honestly did not know any of this. This makes the game waaaayyyyyy more intriguing

    • @Saiku
      @Saiku 4 года назад +615

      @@piratenerdz1602 Someone did a mod of pokemon Crystal where all of the HM restrictions on the map are removed and pokemon/gyms/trainers scale based on your badges. You can fight any of the 16 gyms in any order, it's pretty awesome. Oh, and you get to select to start Kanto or Johto. The mod is called Pokemon Crystal Clear iirc.

    • @anenemystand5582
      @anenemystand5582 4 года назад +293

      At least in the galar region they explain that the gym leaders literally all battle each other to determine their ranking. Thus why you follow a certain order.

  • @confusedcaptain350
    @confusedcaptain350 4 года назад +1484

    Something you missed in gen 5:
    Team Plasma kicking the munna shows that they don’t necessarily agree with ghetsis and have ideals of their own. Which is why they run away when they hallucinate ghetsis because they know he’ll be upset with them.

    • @LightStreak567
      @LightStreak567 4 года назад +348

      No, no, your perspective is slightly wrong. The first two Team Plasma grunts you meet kicking the Munna hints that not every Team Plasma grunt genuinely believes in treating Pokemon humanely and liberating them, there are grunts who KNOW that Ghetsis' plan to liberate all Pokemon is a lie and are loyal to him and his true goal of controlling all Pokemon. When Munna casts the illusion of Ghetsis, the grunts are confused at whether Ghetsis is putting on his act of deceiving people or not, which is why in the sequels the grunts in the black Team Plasma uniforms are loyal to Ghetsis and angry about N betraying them, while the Team Plasma grunts who were ignorant about the lie Ghetsis created and believed in N and what he was fighting for left the organization led by Rood, one of the Seven Sages, still wearing the old uniforms.
      Team Plasma learned form the defeats of Team Rocket, Aqua, Magma and Galactic, they learned that if they are out in the open with their goals, Pokemon Trainers will fight back, so they went and crafted an elaborate deception to deceive the moral beliefs of the people of Unova. The grunts in N's Castle in Black 1 and White 1 tell you this if you pay attention.

    • @bigtimetimmyjim6486
      @bigtimetimmyjim6486 4 года назад +162

      @@LightStreak567 Yeah, this is the correct interpretation of that scene without question. If anything, the grunts are kicking Munna because they do not agree with *N's* ideals and are fully aware of and aligned with Ghetsis's ambitions.

    • @silverwisp1364
      @silverwisp1364 4 года назад +2

      Shut the fuck up and shut the fuck down.

    • @ryanrzjr
      @ryanrzjr 4 года назад +29

      to me it was just that ghetsis never really installed the morals into these people, because it would contradict his end goal of conquering Unova using pokemon. They knew why they were fighting, but were to dumb to put their cause and their actions together, which allowed ghetsis to take the moral high ground but still get things done through rough and evil means.

    • @Zayizzle
      @Zayizzle Год назад +1

      How I felt about that scene was always that some people are horrible people and will join a cause just to feel part of something important, to feel powerful and use it as a shield for doing horrible stuff or people that say they care about this cause or that ideology and when no one looking do horrible stuff. They don't genuinely love or even care about Pokemon, probably never did but like having the moral high ground or power over others.

  • @Jedislayer19
    @Jedislayer19 2 года назад +97

    100% agree. Sun and Moon is currently my favorite game of the series. The world was vibrant and alive in a way most of the other games struggled to portray.

    • @j_g_t6091
      @j_g_t6091 4 месяца назад

      I would like Sun and Moon so much more if they didn't try to do so much extra stuff. They made goofy regional variants, rewrote the evil team, reskinned gym battles, and introduced alternate universes. I feel like they just did too much all at once, which made it feel less like a Pokemon game and more like a marketing test

  • @Wollus
    @Wollus 2 года назад +194

    1:13:53 "these two heroes are twins, but then they say "older brother" and "younger brother" so I don't know what that's about."
    Do you really think that twins stretch out their mother so far they are born at the exact same time? All twins have an older and a younger twin, some even being born hours apart.

    • @mskain4896
      @mskain4896 2 года назад +58

      Right, and just to clarify, the order of birth is still VERY important to the Japanese; in America some families with twins make a bigger or lesser deal over which was actually born first, but in Japan, it's vital. Also, in the original Japanese language they don't really use generic terms for a single brother or sister to begin with; they always use different words that translate literally to 'Younger brother' or 'older sister', etc.

  • @GeorgePerakis
    @GeorgePerakis 4 года назад +732

    "OFFICER JENNY IS A LIE I AM THE LAW"
    Goddamnit I lost.
    10/10

    • @StellarWishGaming2002
      @StellarWishGaming2002 4 года назад +1

      Timestamp?

    • @SeductiveCrab
      @SeductiveCrab 4 года назад +10

      @@StellarWishGaming2002 40:30

    • @TheHadMatters
      @TheHadMatters 4 года назад +5

      Did you mean to say "I lost it.", i.e. fell into laughter? Because I do not see how the pretty obvious statement that the protagonist is the only one with any power in the Pokémon games' universe would make you lose a No-Nut challenge.

    • @usernametaken017
      @usernametaken017 2 года назад

      @@TheHadMatters good one

  • @BlackTearDrop
    @BlackTearDrop 3 года назад +1521

    It's said a lot of times in Sun and Moon that Skull is just kids that failed the island challenges and felt lost afterwards since the challenges are a coming of age ceremony and big deal tradition.

    • @batatafrita2783
      @batatafrita2783 2 года назад +279

      Especially Guzma, it's actually quite sad really, but they are not necessarily bad, they are like a very weird family that cares deeply about one another, even if they failed the challenges, someone had their back when they feared rejection or bullying

    • @kylebear8101
      @kylebear8101 2 года назад +132

      It’s probably why they end up helping you in the first trial

    • @frownyclowny6955
      @frownyclowny6955 2 года назад +70

      @@batatafrita2783 It also may be hinted at in either SM or USUM that Guzma was physically abused as a child

    • @jackenyoff7820
      @jackenyoff7820 2 года назад +60

      Most of salts reviews are half baked at best. He either has a preset opinion and highlights things that support his view, or just doesn’t bother being thorough at all and just puts the videos out anyways. There’s all kinds of things missed or ignored in lots of his review videos, which is kinda weird unless he just doesn’t value the quality of his content that much

    • @pride2184
      @pride2184 2 года назад +25

      @@jackenyoff7820 yea literally doesnt know what he is talking about because he doesnt read what is being said and just says bad story. Without even reading the story. The stories are decent not great but he doesnt read it then goes bad horrible.

  • @EnderPryde
    @EnderPryde 2 года назад +43

    Re: Malva
    It's elaborated more in the post game (and supplemental content) that she was a member of Team Flare, and was just being a dick to you for what you did to the villain team.
    Not saying that XY is any better as a result, just that that's why she and the league are like that.

  • @simonscience5846
    @simonscience5846 11 месяцев назад +13

    I feel Po Town as a whole deserves a lot more than just a passing mention on the screen, because my gooodness, it does an amazing job

  • @leozimmer6140
    @leozimmer6140 3 года назад +831

    57:00 an often overlooked aspect of N is that whenever you battle him, his Pokémon are all from the area you meet him at their highest natural level, so it is assumed that he meets and befriends them and then releases them as he goes. This also implies he meant something other than training his Pokémon when he said he needed to train more

    • @unknownanon4993
      @unknownanon4993 2 года назад +3

      What's the song at 59:53

    • @leozimmer6140
      @leozimmer6140 2 года назад +25

      @@unknownanon4993 it’s one of N’s themes, specifically like the goodbye N from the end of the game I think

    • @glanni
      @glanni 2 года назад +19

      @@leozimmer6140 It's not exclusively N's, it also plays at least one other time when N is gone already. You meet Cheren at a railing, where he reflects and so on, and later you can battle him in Victory Road.

    • @robertlupa8273
      @robertlupa8273 2 года назад +16

      Oh wow, I never knew the "highest natural level" detail. We learn something new every day.

    • @kiro9291
      @kiro9291 2 года назад +2

      oh wow that is actually a lovely detail

  • @Picar70
    @Picar70 4 года назад +783

    Fun fact: The first elite four member in Pokemon X/Y (The girl with the red glasses) is actually a former Team Flare member. That's the reason why she talks down towards you.

    • @fearlucario542
      @fearlucario542 4 года назад +73

      Thank you. Couldn’t believe nobody mentioned it

    • @diegocalderon5190
      @diegocalderon5190 4 года назад +5

      I was going to mention the same thing

    • @PrismPoint
      @PrismPoint 4 года назад +39

      Wait, isn't that a major unmissable plot point? Not a hidden fun tact?

    • @findlayrutherford
      @findlayrutherford 4 года назад +39

      @@PrismPoint Only in the Looker postgame quests I think

    • @dalepeters3841
      @dalepeters3841 4 года назад +4

      I honestly didn't know this.

  • @PokeMario-pk4ot
    @PokeMario-pk4ot Год назад +18

    Viewing this made me realize just how much more the remakes developed the characters for gen 3. In ORAS they gave the rivals a proper arc, actually explained the motivations and reasons team aqua and magma do what they're doing, and they even pick the right colored orb

  • @cryotin5460
    @cryotin5460 Год назад +11

    Team Skull is definitely my favorite of the evil teams, they’re so just more more fun and unique compared to the others, and I absolutely love that they’re just a big found family of outcasts, it was a sweet sentiment seeing how the Guzma, Plumeria, and the grunts all genuinely cared about each other

  • @Yamartim
    @Yamartim 4 года назад +309

    a really cool touch on silver's arc is that when you meet him for the final time and he talks about how much he changed, in the battle against him his golbat has evolved into crobat, which requires it to have high happiness, impliying that he is actually treating his pokemon better

    • @iScAre1
      @iScAre1 4 года назад +32

      Yamazake Whitesky I love that detail, he’s had golbat for so long I was grinning wide when I first saw his crobat

    • @kayleigh1991
      @kayleigh1991 4 года назад +4

      Yes! I love that little detail.

    • @sid2543
      @sid2543 4 года назад +5

      haha so cyrus having a crobat means he also loved his pokemon XD

    • @totallynotamimic3522
      @totallynotamimic3522 4 года назад +12

      @@sid2543 Fun fact about the evil team leaders. While several evil leaders have a Golbat that later evolves into a Crobat, implying that the trainer has some sort of connection with their Pokémon (even Cyrus, surprisingly), Ghetsis is the only one with a Pokémon that outright hates him. In Black and White 2, his Hydreigon knows Frustration.

    • @sid2543
      @sid2543 4 года назад +3

      @@totallynotamimic3522 Haha thanks for that! :)

  • @Missiletainn
    @Missiletainn 4 года назад +3279

    The Oak you meet in Sun and Moon isnt Kanto's Samuel Oak, he's his cousin, Samson Oak

    • @cakes2785
      @cakes2785 4 года назад +133

      Wow those are a lot of comments thank you for this education

    • @Rhygenix
      @Rhygenix 4 года назад +15

      wut

    • @tyson543
      @tyson543 4 года назад +670

      FALSE
      It's his Alolan Form...

    • @tuxedobird
      @tuxedobird 4 года назад +117

      Giovanni Benoit This...this comment somehow is the best and most soul crushing thing ever.

    • @ezlotheminish1862
      @ezlotheminish1862 4 года назад +89

      It isn't Samson Oak. It's Alolan Oak.

  • @therandomgem2400
    @therandomgem2400 2 года назад +78

    Something salt didn't mention was Lusamine's motivation which was to find her husband after he got sucked into a wormhole, but she slowly went insane, as for the husband it's Mohn who returned with amnesia and is the guy at poke pelago, in the ultra versions lusamine and him actually talk about business between poke pelago and the foundation but he doesn't recognize her and she just bids farewell after seeing him being happy with the poke pelago.

    • @bri1085
      @bri1085 Год назад +16

      The ultra games have a different story altogether, Lusamine is almost a completely different character there, and there's the Necrozma storyline with the ultra recon squad.

  • @katieb9428
    @katieb9428 2 года назад +321

    In all honesty the XY plot definitely feels choppy, unfinished, and messy, but I have to say that whole ending with AZ and him getting back his Floette was a great ending. The entire plot was just complete garbage up until AZ was introduced, and that little cut scene at the end with Floette actually had me tear up a bit

    • @knightshade2654
      @knightshade2654 2 года назад +35

      I just finished XY after having put away Pokemon for nearly six years. I had one badge and the the endgame to go, and, while the champion was dreadfully easy, the ending was worth it. Seeing AZ reunite with his Floette made me love Pokemon again.

    • @AS34N
      @AS34N Год назад

      Lol

    • @hondaaccord1399
      @hondaaccord1399 11 месяцев назад +9

      AZ walked so Arvin could run ❤

    • @blazethegame
      @blazethegame 8 месяцев назад +6

      Gen 6 are my favorite Pokémon games, but I do agree that the story is garbage.

    • @johnschwalb
      @johnschwalb 6 месяцев назад +1

      Hopefully it get fixed in pokemon z.....

  • @runningoncylinders3829
    @runningoncylinders3829 3 года назад +926

    Reshiram's "good" world is based on goodwill, honesty, and truth, in the hopes that it will bring peace and prosperity.
    Zekrom's "better" world is based on ideals, wishes, and desires, in the hopes that by reaching it by any means, even if falsehoods are necessary, it'll lead to more people's happiness and prosperity. Opelucid City does a great job of reflecting how people can be happy in either situation of accepting a place as you see it or continuously seeking to build it towards something grander.

    • @ciaranhayes3212
      @ciaranhayes3212 3 года назад +85

      Reshiram represents past truths and that’s why white has the past form of opueloid city and wields nature’s greatest weapon, fire. Meanwhile zekrom represents future ideals which is why it wields humanity’s greatest revelation, electricity

    • @ZhongliArchonofSwag
      @ZhongliArchonofSwag 3 года назад +33

      I always thought it made no sense whatsoever that Reshiram would acknowledge N, when everything N is is based on Ideals not Truth. He would never be able to face the truth of what his ideals represented. He was too softhearted. The moment he had to kill a Pokemon because they refused to be separated from their trainer he’d break like glass in a hurricane. Everything he believed in was a lie based on his own twisted ideals.
      But phrasing it like this does put it in more of a perspective. But if that is the case then the Dragons are misnamed. It should be more like: The dragon of virtue and the dragon of progress. But if Reshiram is a the dragon of accepting reality for what it is in any capacity, then he should reject N on the spot.

    • @runningoncylinders3829
      @runningoncylinders3829 3 года назад +25

      @@ZhongliArchonofSwag That is incredibly insightful and points to Black Version as the primary one. I doubt N could fool himself or Reshiram in the presence of Reshiram, even if it wasn't all-knowing and could only see the virtue he displayed. I do think though that Ghetsis would've planned on raising N to be compatible with either Legendary Dragon even though he's definitely a better pair with Zekrom.

    • @karana2833
      @karana2833 2 года назад +8

      I just think Reshiram looks better with N to be honest

    • @runningoncylinders3829
      @runningoncylinders3829 2 года назад +6

      @@karana2833 They're both pretty elegant, tbh. I mean majestic. Suits a king.

  • @ObtuseDookie
    @ObtuseDookie 3 года назад +1504

    When he started talking about sapphire and the moving truck I realized the only route they could drive on was through the tall grass and those boxes shifting in the truck as you drive were probably your mom running over wild pokémon in the tall grass. Maybe the zigzagoon that attacked professor birch was just pissed because he lost his wife that day.

    • @guilhermefloresfeitosaguer4543
      @guilhermefloresfeitosaguer4543 2 года назад +58

      Insert Eggman speech from SA2 fandub

    • @thedeepfriar745
      @thedeepfriar745 2 года назад +11

      I accidentally purposely read that as professor bitch

    • @GM-lx7ji
      @GM-lx7ji 2 года назад +38

      @@thedeepfriar745 TBH he kinda is, dude has a bag with three pokeballs each with Level 5 and dosen't even thinks on using one of them.

    • @dakota7745
      @dakota7745 2 года назад +7

      Lamo Holy shit that's depressingly hilarious

    • @tron.44
      @tron.44 2 года назад +1

      Makes sense.

  • @Tom-xt1jn
    @Tom-xt1jn 2 года назад +50

    This made me realise that Platinum's conclusion was way cooler than D/Ps.
    In Diamond Pearl you go up alone, get helped by the legendaries, fight Team Galactic's commander's then Cyrus before they run away defeated, then talk to Rowan and Dawn and catch the legendary.
    In Platinum you go up fight with Barry the team Galactic Commanders before confronting Cyrus who summons both legendaries and isn't even phased by the lake legendaries showing up (which makes him letting you let the lake legends go make sense) and basically wins until Giratina intervenes bringing Cyrus into another dimension.
    Then you and Cynthia team up together along with the Lake legends to explore this distorted alternate dimension to ensure it doesn't distort the world and Cyrus attempts to confront Giratina for interrupting his plans - once you defeat Cyrus he comes to the revelation that the distortion world is the world he sought to create and therefore he has won despite losing - walking off to live in the distortion world and hopes to expand his new realm. You catch Giratina and Cynthia's awesome by your side.

    • @YangyChaddyDad
      @YangyChaddyDad Год назад +11

      Yeah that's the biggest reason I was disappointed he didn't talk about the more definitive titles like emerald and platinum

    • @Magma-Idiot-2001
      @Magma-Idiot-2001 4 месяца назад +1

      He needs to do a video for those releases.

  • @MrDj232
    @MrDj232 2 года назад +229

    My headcanon for why the villains are so incompetent is that the islands the games take place on are relatively safe. All the competent adults are on the main continent fighting either a war or much stronger Pokemon. Incompetent adults, children, parents, and a handful of testers serving as the Elite 4 stay on the islands where they won't be killed.

    • @Madcat1331
      @Madcat1331 Год назад +23

      That's actually a very interesting interpretation!

    • @tynirio_1
      @tynirio_1 Год назад

      So basically Lt.Surge was discovered unfit for duty, and was sent to his home town to fuck up anyone he sees fit

    • @Niceguy312373636
      @Niceguy312373636 Год назад +7

      Being a pokemon champion just means you are drafted as a general or something

    • @wolfetteplays8894
      @wolfetteplays8894 Год назад +4

      @@Niceguy312373636 nah, it just makes you the oligarch of the nation

    • @zyth3392
      @zyth3392 Год назад

      That's a cool interpretation but they are on main continent like bw being new york area and you can look up the others too

  • @Isopodre
    @Isopodre 4 года назад +1815

    You poor soul, playing Gen 4 without Platinum. I commend you sir, Diamond/Pearl is so f**king slow.

    • @ozwald9118
      @ozwald9118 4 года назад +243

      Lack of fire types too

    • @AkaiAzul
      @AkaiAzul 4 года назад +147

      I played D/P and never Platinum. Yeah...it’s ludicrously slow.

    • @TheQuashingoftheTub
      @TheQuashingoftheTub 4 года назад +74

      It took just as long to get through Victory Road abd the Elite Four in one attempt in Diamond as it did to beat the first three gyms in Platinum. It was a nightmare to get Larvitar for my SS playthrough.

    • @MCarlos15
      @MCarlos15 4 года назад +22

      I've been playing Platinum for the first time recently, and so far I find it insanely boring. But I want to advance so I can accurately critizise it xD

    • @HMMadsen
      @HMMadsen 4 года назад +18

      Aside from Surfing, Platinum ain't that much faster than Diamond & Pearl though.

  • @maddiemcnugget1076
    @maddiemcnugget1076 4 года назад +295

    Blue: infiltrates team rocket hide out
    Giovanni: so you’re here to stop me?
    Blue: nah I just want the gym badge.
    Giovanni: oh... o... kay?

    • @somethingcraft3148
      @somethingcraft3148 4 года назад +10

      This funny as heck

    • @Pelmite
      @Pelmite 3 года назад +20

      well if thats all i guess you can have it and leave

    • @RooftopRose079
      @RooftopRose079 3 года назад +6

      @@Pelmite Funny how that game would have gone if Giovanni just gave Red and Blue the gym badges and they just up and left.

    • @sad_boi_razor8983
      @sad_boi_razor8983 3 года назад

      yup thats pretty much my mood rn.

  • @jacobtrost5048
    @jacobtrost5048 2 года назад +133

    I feel like you would have been better served playing the "combo" version of Gen 2, 3 and 4. Particularly Emerald I think does a much better job with its story than either Ruby or Sapphire, and that thing you mentioned about there being no interesting resolution after you save Sootopolis is rectified EXACTLY as you imagined it should be.

    • @TheNamesDitto
      @TheNamesDitto Год назад +2

      Truth

    • @anthonynguyen1289
      @anthonynguyen1289 8 месяцев назад +11

      He brought up why he was doing the original games. He wanted to see the original story and not the fixes they do with newer enhanced versions or ports/remakes. It’s like wanting to review how Cyberpunk 2077 or No Man’s Sky were released, but talking about the current versions which fixed most of the issues it just doesn’t make sense. His review is on the original product they sold people and seeing what problems these products had.

    • @jacobtrost5048
      @jacobtrost5048 8 месяцев назад +19

      @@anthonynguyen1289 Sure, but when you're doing this for the sake of posterity and specifically evaluating how generations of a game were handled, it seems a little weird to me to go with the version of the game that everyone already knows is less popular / polished.
      To use your No Man's Sky example, it would be really weird if 20 years from now someone said, "I'm going to review No Man's Sky's story," and then evaluated its release version and not the version that people could play at that time. If he went through and compared and contrasted games like Ruby vs Emerald or Pearl vs Platinum, then I would get it. But he's basically taking a 10, 15 year old title and saying, "Hey, here's the story from this generation of games, and my opinions on it," while knowingly using the generally accepted "worse" version.
      *TLDR* I would agree with you if this was either the review of a more modern game or specifically about the changes between versions, but choosing the less popular version of a game from 15 years ago seems like a weird choice.

    • @calliecalamity8787
      @calliecalamity8787 3 месяца назад +1

      ​@@anthonynguyen1289if you're trying to evaluate all games in a fair, equal way isn't that more reason to go for the games that actually improve on the originals and fix things? Like, the best versions of every game?

  • @MetallicPetals
    @MetallicPetals 2 года назад +21

    The heroes in gen 5 wanted a new world, but in different ways, one wanting truth, and the other ideal, but was unable to meet in the middle

  • @Dead_Pegasus
    @Dead_Pegasus 4 года назад +285

    "She says she wants me to escort her home because she's scared, I don't know what my non-pokémon having ass is going to do besides tuck and roll at some more Pokémon."
    10/10 Best line

    • @Zezlemetkun
      @Zezlemetkun 4 года назад +10

      Guess be her meat shield

  • @eertikrux666
    @eertikrux666 4 года назад +1271

    Sun and Moon Characters in a nutshell:
    Hau: can't stop being positive and eating malasadas
    Player's mom: can't stop stretching
    Gladion: can't stop JoJo posing
    Player: can't stop having 1 expression

    • @artimist0315
      @artimist0315 4 года назад +98

      @Jurassic Mindset and it get wors when you are at the end of the game and the aether director explain you that they will open a portal that would probably bring overpowered creatures in the word. And then there is a traveling and you see the main character stupidly smiling like a psychopath. Nice...

    • @devilishjester7718
      @devilishjester7718 4 года назад +75

      Lilie: GET INTO THE F*CKING BAG, NEBBY

    • @MM-mx2zt
      @MM-mx2zt 4 года назад +10

      Flatter than your average anime shonen protagonist

    • @AlbertFingernoodle959
      @AlbertFingernoodle959 4 года назад +6

      It always cracks me up seeing you do this cool pose of triumph when you beat a trial and get a z crystal, and you just have a faint smile on your face

    • @decoral
      @decoral 4 года назад +5

      Lillie was awesome imo!

  • @WishGender
    @WishGender Год назад +22

    what i always found weird about n is that he and ghetsis having the same hair color is (in universe) a coincidence, since n was adopted by ghetsis

    • @anthonynguyen1289
      @anthonynguyen1289 8 месяцев назад +7

      I just view anime hair as if it were normal hair in our world. Anyone in anime can have pink or blue hair without being related. If both Ghetsis and N had black or brown hair, I feel most people wouldn’t think it’s weird that N is adopted since Ghetsis makes no mention of a mom and they don’t really look similar outside sharing a hair color.

    • @calliecalamity8787
      @calliecalamity8787 3 месяца назад

      N apparently always had green hair so I would put it past ghetsis to due his hair green just for some kind of manipulation

    • @allister1545
      @allister1545 12 дней назад

      consider: ghetsis fucking despises N and wants NOTHING to do with him, he barely sees him as a fellow human being. i wouldn't put it past ghetsis to lie about being related to N to try and distance himself from N as much as possible

  • @cottoncoffin
    @cottoncoffin 2 года назад +8

    The unova link was so sick and playing triple battles and rotation battles was so much fun
    The grind never got boring

  • @theoraexplora
    @theoraexplora 4 года назад +444

    56:23 N doesn't use Pokeballs, he just has Pokemon from the area help him out which is why his team keeps changing. He doesn't "train" he just convinces stronger Pokemon to help him. And if Pokemon means what they say when they say that connecting with Pokemon is how you unlock their power it makes sense that his mons are progressively strong even if he isn't training them

    • @AlisonClaires
      @AlisonClaires 4 года назад +97

      When he sends out Pokemon in battle there are Pokeball animations, so he does use them, but he often comments on how much he hates them. It would have been very cool if that Pokeball spinning animation hadn't been there... I'm surprised they didn't think of that, since they put so much effort into him.

    • @Hocotatium111
      @Hocotatium111 4 года назад +48

      @@AlisonClaires Especially considering an animation like this already exists for HG/SS when you send out the Pokémon following you.

    • @HomemadeArtistry
      @HomemadeArtistry 4 года назад +6

      @@Hocotatium111 Unless there is some opposing trainer variant of the following Pokémon being sent into battle animation, they probably didn't even bother trying to create, let alone attempt to transfer those elements into Black and White

    • @MxPokirby
      @MxPokirby 4 года назад +8

      So N is basically just a Pokemon Ranger?

    • @theoraexplora
      @theoraexplora 4 года назад +10

      @@MxPokirby Yes. Yes, he is. He's playing Pokemon Ranger Black/White and the player is playing Pokemon Black/White

  • @sisterslothington
    @sisterslothington 4 года назад +864

    Team Yell makes Team Skull look like the coolest dudes in the world.

    • @Aurirang
      @Aurirang 4 года назад +138

      At least Team skull still ahd the humour-factor going on. (Also Guzma is cool)
      Team yell is just.. pathetic. They're even a bigger affront to the eyes than team flare and those guys with their neon-y red were already an eye-sore.

    • @caesarspeaks
      @caesarspeaks 4 года назад +44

      Monika you realise they’re meant to be stupid right? Like, you’re supposed to see them as cringy twitch followers who think Marnie will acknowledge them if they keep bending over backwards for her?

    • @Aurirang
      @Aurirang 4 года назад +81

      @@caesarspeaks All Teams were meant to be stupid in one sense or another. Team skull was designed around the very point of being stupid little shits. But at least they made it funny. Team yell is just cringey, boring and completely unnecessary. They could have added way more with the actual antagonist fraction instead.

    • @arlen7726
      @arlen7726 4 года назад +33

      People keep bashing team yell and ignoring the fact that they were never actually antagonists, just an overblown fanclub. Meanwhile the fact that the regional league is seriously corrupt flies under the radar as completely normal.

    • @Aurirang
      @Aurirang 4 года назад +17

      @@arlen7726 It's the same Situation as with the Ether foundation, to be honest. Team Skull were a bunch of rowdies but they weren't "the bad team" per se. Yet they had the most screen time.
      It would have been very nice though, if after the explosions, your character would rush there and not solely the unbeatable champ with his charizard. Maybe have SOME build-up, some clues, even if it's just somebody of the league sneaking away from the explosion-site. But i guess that would have been too mucheffort in storywriting to ask from this soggy generation.

  • @Silvyatha
    @Silvyatha 2 года назад +9

    I completely agree with your assessment of Sun/Moon. It is my favorite of the entire series by far! I loved the story and the characters. I *really* wish they would update it or at least release it as is on the Switch! I would preorder it instantly!

  • @jackal0p
    @jackal0p Год назад +9

    finally some goddamn sun/moon appreciation

  • @kylebear8101
    @kylebear8101 2 года назад +393

    When I was a young child…I didn’t know you were supposed to name Silver. When the cop asked his name I was like “well the game said it was ‘???’”. So I constantly battled ??? Wondering when I’d learn his name…

    • @TheRealStorman
      @TheRealStorman Год назад +11

      100% same here 🤣🤣

    • @scooby-doovillain
      @scooby-doovillain Год назад

      OMLLLLL THATS SO JGJJAHSGGDHAAHAHHAA

    • @zeroshade715
      @zeroshade715 Год назад +9

      That’s actually cute 😂

    • @valenti333
      @valenti333 Год назад +25

      i was like 9 and at the beginning it said i was challenged by passerby boy in hgss so i name him paserby bc of the 7 letter limit lmao

    • @smallmediumatlarge
      @smallmediumatlarge Год назад +3

      #Metoo

  • @Kinra_Jade
    @Kinra_Jade 3 года назад +226

    "You don't understand the gravity of this moment. This is the one thing that made my character form a different facial expression."
    I felt that on an emotional level, man...

  • @bumbum2324
    @bumbum2324 2 года назад +58

    Surprised you didn't bring up the N's memories feature of black 2/white 2. For those who don't know if you linked up your b2/W2 copy with b/w you'd unlock a feature that lets you see the memories of N as you progress through the game. It's a really nice addition to the story and adds in a lot of lore 💕💖💕

  • @liamwillis860
    @liamwillis860 8 месяцев назад +3

    2:35:10 There are two characters with the surname of Oak. Samuel in Kanto & Samson in Alola.
    Samuel Oak is the Kanto Professor we are all familiar with.

  • @Salt_Mage
    @Salt_Mage 4 года назад +335

    I really loved in B2W2 how when you get to the post game and go back to the first game's starting town, entering the first protagonist's house has their mother welcome you home - right before realizing that you aren't her child. Apparently the protagonist left Unova in search of N and hasn't returned home since.

    • @CrystalGreymon
      @CrystalGreymon 4 года назад +100

      What I love about Black 2 and White 2 is if you memory link the original game, upon getting to Nuvema Town, Bianca turns up and battles you as if it's something her soul was longing for.
      Piggybacking off of the point about the first protagonist, it's clear that other characters start to see the B2/W2 protagonist as the B/W protagonist and that's honestly kinda cool.

    • @islandboy9381
      @islandboy9381 4 года назад +46

      Not meeting the player character from B/W1 in B/W2 is what keeps the story from a 10/10 to me (I rate it 9/10 now).

    • @CrystalGreymon
      @CrystalGreymon 4 года назад +28

      @@islandboy9381 It was originally planned that the character would show up in the PWT but it was scrapped for whatever reason.
      If I had to assume, I'd say that where none of the main characters of BW2 were able to contact them, I'd say that none of the PWT staff were able to invite them to it.
      That and I bet it'd be kinda annoying having that character be much easier to face than any other important character of the tournament.
      What I think would have been nice though is if they were randomly appeared where the Shiny Haxorus does in the aftergame and after you've caught it.

    • @theadmirableadmiral7408
      @theadmirableadmiral7408 4 года назад +6

      CrystalGreymon Lostlorn Forest could be another fitting location to meet the BW protagonist.

    • @CrystalGreymon
      @CrystalGreymon 4 года назад +5

      @@theadmirableadmiral7408 Maybe. But isn't it heavily implied to just be an illusion made by the Zoroark that lives there? It feels kinda wrong to have them in a place you'd go to so early since you can go there in the mid-game.
      I get that they could show up after you've gone but it feels more like the allure of going there would be for the Zoroark and if you've already caught it, I half-expect them to just silently battle you and it'd feel awkward there.
      With the place that you face the Shiny Haxorus, it feels like they could've gone there to train there Pokémon in peace after learning that Team Plasma has been disbanded by the player in the sequels.
      That way, people don't keep interrupting them in their training but they might find more Pokémon to raise or something.
      Actually, doesn't the XTranseiver kinda create a problematic loophole? It seems to be able to call you from any location in the region and assumedly they'd have broadcasting towers to amplify the signal to call other regions. That item alone should make contacting them much easier.
      Man... this is confusing...

  • @Kumaclaws
    @Kumaclaws 3 года назад +377

    A jellyfish alien randomly appears from a wormhole, so lovecraftian that its mere existence is slowly tearing apart the fabric of reality itself
    Your trainer: 0u0

    • @tanyasellars7492
      @tanyasellars7492 2 года назад +9

      I just realised the climax of S/M is just the end of the triangulum arc in Devil survivor 2

    • @akatsukigajou1639
      @akatsukigajou1639 2 года назад +3

      @@tanyasellars7492 wait?really?

    • @aprinnyonbreak1290
      @aprinnyonbreak1290 2 года назад +6

      Game: The love you show for pokemon is so obvious.
      Player Character: My desire is to take from you your men, your coin, your world. My one wish is to destroy, until this world is powerless to resist, at which point I will leave forever, only occasionally returning to send my tools forewards in time to the next world I descend upon, and occasionally break reality. 0_0
      Game: Such an inspiration.

  • @francez123456789
    @francez123456789 2 года назад +17

    Dexio and Sina are so memorable that i forgot they where in X and Y... and actually forgot the existed in sun and moon as well...

  • @casseroledragon3277
    @casseroledragon3277 2 года назад +74

    I enjoyed your review! I will say though, it was kind of funny that you would complain about the lack of storyline, and then simultaneously complain when storyline moments happened.

  • @DavidArcher_
    @DavidArcher_ 3 года назад +1563

    "We want more oceans!"
    "Ok..."
    "So we've taken over this weather station!"
    "Right."
    "To make it rain more."
    "And this makes more oceans how, exactly?"
    "What?"
    "Rain is just evaporated water. It's a cycle; it doesn't create new water. How will the oceans get bigger?"
    "I, uh, well-"
    "Man you guys are du-"
    "Poochyena go!"

    • @bubbykins4864
      @bubbykins4864 3 года назад +94

      Kyogre summons it, and the game alludes to this fact. Not only would it flood the world, but the land that's left becomes colder due to the drastically reduced salinity.

    • @WeavileLady
      @WeavileLady 3 года назад +38

      But they want to catch the Pokémon who made the oceans in the first place out of rain. So basicly they would be adding more ocean out nothing because poke-god magic boogaloo

    • @kingbowser4542
      @kingbowser4542 3 года назад +6

      Magic

    • @zeromythosver.
      @zeromythosver. 3 года назад +34

      This is why I wish he’d made an exception for Emerald and Platinum. Those are the quintessential versions of the plots of their Gens.
      R/S are trash plot-wise when you don’t have the enjoyable interaction of BOTH enemy teams fighting one another using BOTH Legendaries, and BOTH realizing together that they screwed up, regretting their actions and seeing how equally ridiculous one another were.
      And then, for both Emerald and Platinum, the “parting of the skies” moments at the end of each’s Legendary plotlines with Rayquaza and Giratina respectively, they are the payoff to the Legendary plotline that is suuuuuper lacking in their two-version predecessors.
      I feel like this video kneecapped itself from the get-go by not just using the quintessential version (plot-wise) of all Gens.
      That’d be arguably...
      - Yellow for Gen. 1
      - Crystal for Gen. 2 proper or HGSS obviously if we count remakes
      - Emerald for Gen. 3
      - Platinum for Gen. 4
      - *Both BW and B2W2* for Gen. 5 due to the canon sequel format
      - (no contention for X/Y since they dropped Kalos REAL quick)
      - For Gen. 7 I’d argue both Sun/Moon and USUM deserve plot reviews for Gen. 7 because each fleshes out further one facet of the plot than the other; Lillie/Gladion/Lusamine central plot for SuMo, and the Legendary plotline for USUM.

    • @PatManDX
      @PatManDX 3 года назад +6

      @@zeromythosver. Don't forget the Hau subplot in USUM, that was one of the bigger weaknesses of SM.

  • @JRedNose
    @JRedNose 4 года назад +427

    "How dare you only be the second best trainer in the region!? I though I raised you better than that!"
    - Professor Oak

    • @avocadothecat
      @avocadothecat 4 года назад +33

      10/10 grandpa

    • @terellslaughter1626
      @terellslaughter1626 4 года назад +36

      Oak was really a dick. Like grandfather, like grandson.

    • @tuxedobird
      @tuxedobird 4 года назад +21

      Terell Slaughter To be fair, it’s implied Blue abuses his Pokémon, at least verbally.

    • @jazminespinoza7932
      @jazminespinoza7932 4 года назад +13

      - The same man that couldn't be bothered to remember his own Grandson's name

    • @CrystalGreymon
      @CrystalGreymon 4 года назад +1

      @@jazminespinoza7932 Let's Go lampshades that when you see Blue and Oak at the lab. Blue just comments that the joke is stupid and nobody falls for it.

  • @SushiReversed
    @SushiReversed Год назад +8

    "Cynthia took me 12 tries to beat good god"
    **Running a team full of hm slaves**

  • @Metalseadraking
    @Metalseadraking 2 года назад +13

    iirc in the german translation its a bit more obvious what the twins were fighting each other for. One of them wanted to make a better world by making a world people see reality as it is (People being realistic) and the other one was more idealistic, wanting people to achieve their dreams and ideals

  • @TheMock5000
    @TheMock5000 3 года назад +639

    Al Capone: oh noooo, I was defeated. Guess I'll study some animals or something.

    • @michaelstanley7361
      @michaelstanley7361 3 года назад +20

      al capone was defeated by syphilis

    • @TheMock5000
      @TheMock5000 3 года назад +2

      @@michaelstanley7361 you didn't watch the video, did you?

    • @TheMock5000
      @TheMock5000 3 года назад +3

      @@dr.mikizzletherapist8294 no

    • @fyrentenimar
      @fyrentenimar 3 года назад +1

      It's not just "studying some animals", though, it's studying the biggest phenomenon/mystery in the world.

    • @sonoftheviper__4304
      @sonoftheviper__4304 3 года назад +17

      He gave up the mafia life for the zoo life.

  • @Ankh-yf3gl
    @Ankh-yf3gl 4 года назад +706

    Pokemon Ruby's plot makes a lot more sense than Pokemon Sapphire's.
    the expansion of land for additional land for humanity to build on and to help develop the human species. Then Groudon's power seemingly looking as a threat to all life and possible mass extinction just fits so much better.

    • @mrsauceman5721
      @mrsauceman5721 3 года назад +87

      I personally prefer Emerald, because pretty much nothing changes anyway.

    • @banana-uo3be
      @banana-uo3be 3 года назад +37

      Emerald is the best in my opinion

    • @mrsauceman5721
      @mrsauceman5721 3 года назад +56

      @@banana-uo3be Yeah exactly, if Groundon and Kyogre are equal then both of them should have been awoken, and Rayquaza sent to shut them down.

    • @catarah8772
      @catarah8772 3 года назад +29

      Achie just wants a magical sea adventure but gets a pissed off kyogre and rain instead.

    • @haruhirogrimgar6047
      @haruhirogrimgar6047 3 года назад +42

      Team Magma was always more hate-able to me, I always thought Aqua had a stronger argument. Team Magma expanding the land for people just seemed like an over-all terrible idea in a world where Pokemon are so integral. That and living not even 5 hours away from a desert that used to be underwater I don't want Hoenn to have to deal with Arizona summers.
      But ocean's having such great amounts of biodiversity and Team Aqua being more worried about Pokemon than people was always something I appreciated and I feel the rest of the region aligns more with them than Magma. There is constant examples of people stopping their expansion once they realized it would hurt Pokemon or the environment, and Team Aqua both shoulders that message and is trying to push it. Team Magma on the other hand is just ignoring how valuable Pokemon are and going to speed up the death of the world for both people and Pokemon. And the dark rain pouring down with Kyogre around was always more disturbing to me than the vaguely brighter screen that Groudon would have so I never felt intimidated by him (it doesn't help his typing is utter sh*t.)

  • @Frankie-xu6sr
    @Frankie-xu6sr 2 года назад +31

    Potentially my biggest critique of your critique on these games is the lack of depth during your analysis of each story/plot. There's more to each one, like how N is actually the only one who truly lives by Team Plasma's goals. Every battle he fights with pokemon he found in the wild of the location you are in which I thought was so cool. This means he never claims pokemon, but asks for their help and let's them back out into the wild afterwards which wasn't ever seen in a main story line pokemon game (I'm assuming we're not counting pokemon ranger). Or how Silver is actually Giovanni and one of his executives child, which really adds a nice twist on why he's so obsessed with steam rolling over Team rocket members. The spite he has for his father is what keeps him going, he wants to prove to him that he's the stronger one. I don't know, maybe you think it's just too much looking into the story and you only reviewed them at the surface, but it just bothered me that these things were overlooked with the explanation of "essentially every pokemone town with a gym has some sort of fetch quest to activate the gym and every evil team is just stupid".

    • @MoonEnvoy
      @MoonEnvoy 3 месяца назад +2

      Yeah, i like Salt a lot but his "in depth" analysis is typically only ever surface level

  • @chriskoloski32
    @chriskoloski32 2 года назад +67

    For someone who complained about a lack of good story in pokemon games mattering in the first few generations, he sure did a fast heel turn when gen 5 showed up, the gen that has the most proactive story

    • @gustavogoncalves1102
      @gustavogoncalves1102 7 месяцев назад +24

      Yeah the dude complains about lack of plot but on gen 5 he basically berates the game for trying to tell a story and not speedrunning through gym badges?

    • @HelplessFangirl
      @HelplessFangirl 7 месяцев назад +21

      @@gustavogoncalves1102 his complaint was about the pacing and how it unnecessarily roadblocked you before almost every gym. Good, intricate story and not stopping you before every gym can coexist

    • @gustavogoncalves1102
      @gustavogoncalves1102 7 месяцев назад

      @@HelplessFangirl there’s only a few gyms though, I didn’t feel like the game had a slow pacing at all before the gyms at all, it’s at most just “go battle these guys right here” and then great you’re free to go to the gym anyway

    • @NsABullitzZ
      @NsABullitzZ 6 месяцев назад +4

      ​@@gustavogoncalves1102at almost every town you are hard road blocked by somebody saying 'can't go through here, we need the gym leaders permission' or similar. The problem is the games don't allow you to make mistakes and think about whether you missed something, they just force you into doing things in a very specific order each time

    • @hopelessamaturerougeofhope4399
      @hopelessamaturerougeofhope4399 4 месяца назад

      ​@@NsABullitzZI am currently playing gen 5 and i will admit that it does get annoying having to do something before facing the gym every single time like its fine every now and then but every gym really? Still love the other stuff in the game though

  • @NegativeVitality
    @NegativeVitality 4 года назад +144

    Malva calls you a "hero" in quotes because she was apart of Team flare herself, that's why she doesn't seem legitimately happy when talking to you.

    • @totallynotamimic3522
      @totallynotamimic3522 4 года назад +42

      I feel like having a member of the Elite Four be part of the evil team could have been a really cool concept if done well, but they went literally nowhere with that. In fact, I don't think there was any mention or even foreshadowing of her being in the team until the postgame, where she explicitly states it and everyone acts normal about it.

    • @remixgamer4565
      @remixgamer4565 4 года назад +6

      Totally Not a Mimic they made it so much cooler in the X and Y manga

    • @earlymorninstonedpimp
      @earlymorninstonedpimp Год назад

      @@totallynotamimic3522 way to sum up Pokémon X/Y in a nutshell

  • @brokage8398
    @brokage8398 2 года назад +590

    When you realize that. In Black and White they established that Gym leaders are allowed to enforce the law and uphold the peace. Imagine Whitney trying to stop Team rocket

    • @2getha5eva
      @2getha5eva 2 года назад +103

      "Alright, Miltank, use Stomp!"

    • @aprinnyonbreak1290
      @aprinnyonbreak1290 2 года назад +152

      I mean, not gonna lie, Whitney seems like right about the appropriate level of response to gen 2 Team Rocket. Who else but Whitney would storm over and smash some bats and snakes because some jackasses took her favorite station off the radio?
      Faulkner only cares about birds, Bugsy has an entire forest of bugs to molest before he finally makes it, Morty is busy hallucinating on the good shit in his gym, Chuck isn't okay to drive, Jasmine is getting the hell out of Johto, Pryce broke his hip on the way, and Claire is too cool for radio. Silver was too busy complaining about everyone but him being so weak that they kept beating his ass ruthlessly, Lance doesn't have time for evil plans not on the level of magic brain control mind wave things being run out of the basement of a local corner store, and the cops are busy making sure 10 year olds that walk up to them at night aren't actually those bandits infesting rpg towns.
      Nah. A local semi-famous girl going over and tantruming until Team Rocket goes to take over the Asprin Factory instead sounds about right.

    • @guilhermefloresfeitosaguer4543
      @guilhermefloresfeitosaguer4543 2 года назад +8

      @@aprinnyonbreak1290 LMAAOOOO

    • @consistentpogba237
      @consistentpogba237 Год назад +25

      i think its only because gym leaders in BW have other important roles in their respective cities sort of like mayors, pilot, artist, running the museum, model

    • @guilhermefloresfeitosaguer4543
      @guilhermefloresfeitosaguer4543 Год назад +15

      @@consistentpogba237 I mean, it's literally their thing. It's one of the best parts about BW

  • @SpringDychymyg
    @SpringDychymyg 2 года назад +20

    In pokemon diamond and pearl cyrus's crobat actual has minimum friendship and you can know this because it uses frustration which increases in power the lower your friendship is and his hits like a truck, implying forced evolution or he stole one and abused it

  • @toolatetothestory
    @toolatetothestory 2 года назад +12

    I do like the small details.
    Like some of the bosses still treating their Pokemon well enough to have them evolve through friendship.
    And then there is... Getsis.
    Actually pure evil.
    Black and White is my favourite Edition. I may be biased, but I don't care. I have so many fond memories with that game, and N is still my favourite rival.

    • @earlymorninstonedpimp
      @earlymorninstonedpimp 10 месяцев назад

      N’s not a rival.

    • @toolatetothestory
      @toolatetothestory 10 месяцев назад +2

      @@earlymorninstonedpimp You periodically fight him throughout the game to check how you have progressed so far. More often than you fight Cheren and Bianca, for sure.
      I'd say that counts. Rival/Anti-Villian

    • @allister1545
      @allister1545 12 дней назад

      @@earlymorninstonedpimp N has the rival theme skill in pokemon masters

  • @mesadrums375
    @mesadrums375 4 года назад +1971

    “You simps are held up by a mere child?”
    Oof. Archie using meme culture before it was cool.

    • @themorrigan1312
      @themorrigan1312 4 года назад +218

      "Before it was cool" shit, before it even properly existed

    • @notjimpickens7928
      @notjimpickens7928 4 года назад +72

      @@themorrigan1312 right? 😂 this is some protomemeing

    • @Sean-sw5qv
      @Sean-sw5qv 4 года назад +38

      ... it still isn’t really “cool” to just meme. But yeah, time travel Archie is something I had no idea existed.

    • @myrongaines6022
      @myrongaines6022 4 года назад +119

      I think simp was an old-timey short version of "simpleton".

    • @stellaelyzabeth2151
      @stellaelyzabeth2151 4 года назад +47

      came here to post the timestamp, it's official, team aqua is full of simps.
      25:20 btw

  • @liambird2053
    @liambird2053 3 года назад +686

    I’ve always thought that Cyrus’s Crobat was a hint that he wasn’t being entirely genuine when he says he doesn’t care about Pokémon.

    • @bubbykins4864
      @bubbykins4864 3 года назад +19

      Or perhaps he's merely pretending to care.

    • @crimsonking440
      @crimsonking440 3 года назад +132

      Or MAYBE gamefreak doesn't actually think about shit like that when making enemy trainers

    • @skateboardmd9163
      @skateboardmd9163 3 года назад +236

      @@crimsonking440 Yeah, and Ghetsis having his ace and strongest Pokémon Hudreigon know Frustration (which gets stronger when your Pokémon despises you) means nothing to Ghetsis' character.
      I understand you may be annoyed because nowadays, everyone overanalyzes every detail, but don't just dismiss everything off as empty or hollow, or for just being there. While many things have the simplest reason for being what they are, there's still a reason, and this may be a detail, but also not. We don't know. It's up for us players to interpret.

    • @haruhirogrimgar6047
      @haruhirogrimgar6047 3 года назад +57

      @@skateboardmd9163 They put a hell of a lot more effort into the BW bad-guy team than they did for the D/P team though. Cyrus's Crobat is far more likely them just not paying attention. They were extremely ambitious in that game and details like that are easy to fall to the wayside when they don't hire competent writers.
      Though I don't want to give B/W any more credit than saying they tried for the story. It isn't good unless you only compare it to mainline Pokemon games and Nintendo in general. It just has a lot of effort put in (which is sad.)

    • @RarutoUchiha2
      @RarutoUchiha2 3 года назад +35

      @@haruhirogrimgar6047 Friendship evolution and the whole system are a measurement of how much a Pokémon is attached to its trainer and enjoys being in their care. Cyrus' Crobat can be attached to him and enjoy being its Pokemon without Cyrus actually reciprocating those feelings.

  • @AS34N
    @AS34N 11 месяцев назад +2

    I've used this video to sleep for the past almost 2 years lol. Thanks!

  • @BiakSkull
    @BiakSkull Год назад +19

    Dude the Tapus from SM are more like demons than guardians, their descriptions pretty much read "it'll rip you in half and dance on your corpse if it doesn't like your child's shirt"

    • @flynnhunter416
      @flynnhunter416 5 месяцев назад

      Lmao that is so true and it's ridiculous how the people worship them instead of live in fear of them being ripped in half.

    • @bubblecoffee7210
      @bubblecoffee7210 2 дня назад

      They're loyal to Alola, not necessarily the people in it

  • @noonesfang131
    @noonesfang131 4 года назад +1023

    The more salty you got as it went on really made me crack up, this is a great video. On another note i think its interesting how much hate gen 5 gets because of piles of garbage and ice cream, yet it had the most solid story of the franchise. I remember playing it for the first time and thinking "Is pokemon actually an rpg now?"

    • @commonviewer2488
      @commonviewer2488 4 года назад +145

      I was happy that the whole "dogfight" thing was addressed to justify Pokémon trainers battling one another. They are not simply animals, it's not a one-to-one comparison.

    • @TheQuashingoftheTub
      @TheQuashingoftheTub 4 года назад +215

      No one should complain about Garbodor(who is pretty ugly-cute) when the original Grimer and Muk are a thing.
      Also, Ice cream ghosts are pretty cute and clever. I quite like how the Pokemon World bases their products and economy around the Pokemon they discover(Castelia cones, anyone?)

    • @commonviewer2488
      @commonviewer2488 4 года назад +60

      @@TheQuashingoftheTub It's free advertisement when a food is commonly associated with a species of animal.

    • @TheQuashingoftheTub
      @TheQuashingoftheTub 4 года назад +103

      @@commonviewer2488
      Me: "Look, Chocollite! It's a treat modelled after you! Doesn't it look sweet and delicious?"
      My Vanillite: *slowly backs away*

    • @CMB505
      @CMB505 4 года назад +25

      To me, BW were the big turning point where it became less enjoyable to play and it just...became a slog. Namely because of the story just...halting EVERYTHING. And I don’t mean for anything good. Mostly just...fluff.

  • @virtuallyfunny
    @virtuallyfunny 4 года назад +241

    "if she's a model, what can i do? That changes everything! Bianca, my actual underage daughter, go on and have all the adventures you want"
    hahahahahahahahahaha

  • @lil_muzi_vert8190
    @lil_muzi_vert8190 3 месяца назад +2

    This is the best Pokemon yap session ever

  • @justinismad5779
    @justinismad5779 2 года назад

    I’m so glad that this was recommended to me. I enjoyed listening to your takes on each gens story. Definitely deserves a sub and can’t wait to see what other videos you’ve got in store for me

  • @raspberrypie1706
    @raspberrypie1706 4 года назад +3494

    You did a massive disservice to yourself by not playing emerald or platinum, both improve massively over the previous games in their gen, especially poor gen4.

    • @Whispernyan
      @Whispernyan 4 года назад +380

      @@TheAngelOfTheBottomlessPit He wanted to play the original versions of each game, if he was just going to do the most enchanced version why wouldn't he then play the remakes of games instead.

    • @PsychoDiesel48
      @PsychoDiesel48 4 года назад +150

      Gen 4 was my first game but I only recently (months leading up to Sw/Sh actually) played Platinum. I was very happy because I lost my pearl game a long time ago but finally reunited with my good friend Mr. Turtle the Torterra. Yeah for some reason in my first game I practically named half of my pokemon caught "Mr." Or "Mrs" something. It was a tad weird but it did make sense for noctowl because he became "Mr. Owl, how many licks does it take to get to the center of a tootsie pop?"

    • @lyg483
      @lyg483 4 года назад +88

      Well no, Emerald is not that good, Steve not as champion is like the first example of being wrong.

    • @agata6337
      @agata6337 4 года назад +127

      the point of the video was to evaluete the story by itself without the patchup in the holes made by the third version; since by this point the reviewers of the time awready pointed out the flaws in the internal logic of the story....
      so my conclusion is: rip gen 4 :v

    • @liamwhite3522
      @liamwhite3522 4 года назад +220

      Emerald actually had the two evil teams doing evil things, and the RIGHT evil things. No more Aqua messing with volcanoes, no more Magma messing with boats.
      And in Platinum, Galactic isn't entirely stupid. They summon more gods than the Lake trio can stop, or that you could capture with a masterball. And then Giratina shows up and makes an absolute awesome puzzle to solve.

  • @dsgibboney3
    @dsgibboney3 4 года назад +206

    "It's hard to take someone seriously who is wrestling their own hand like they're trying to prevent it from writing in the death note" 👏👏single best description of Gladion I've ever heard.

  • @KittMouri
    @KittMouri 2 года назад +6

    Sun & Moon was easily my favorite, too! I loved that game! Awesome video.

  • @hisshoes1107
    @hisshoes1107 2 года назад +7

    Why is so interesting to hear my entire childhood be completely burnt alive

  • @keinname1896
    @keinname1896 4 года назад +592

    You should probably have taken Crystal, Emerald and Platinum, because they somewhat adress some of the story things at some points like the anticlimax of Ruby/Sapphire, but this was still a treat!

    • @dannykazari2875
      @dannykazari2875 4 года назад +92

      I thought the same thing, but I think the point was that GameFreak figured these first versions were polished enough to release.

    • @myfellowsonicfans7131
      @myfellowsonicfans7131 4 года назад +30

      Tbh I am not a fan of those third entry things, I’m glad they’re gone, it means more original games, but it doesn’t really matter anymore because we get shit like Sun and Moon and Sword and Shield.

    • @ayanlemohamed5060
      @ayanlemohamed5060 4 года назад +3

      @@myfellowsonicfans7131 seems like you hate sword

    • @botyorick
      @botyorick 4 года назад +5

      @@myfellowsonicfans7131 tbh at least US/UM were like 100000times better than S/M (which doesnt mean mmuch) even though i hoped for another B/W, B2/W2 continued story

    • @commonviewer2488
      @commonviewer2488 4 года назад +44

      @@botyorick The Ultra games were better than the originals, but not unique enough to justify being their own games. They feel more like an update, or dlc than a full price 3ds game.

  • @andrewmanchiraju8005
    @andrewmanchiraju8005 3 года назад +268

    The reason Malva has that weird dialogue at the elite 4 is because she is a member of team flare. They say this in the post game, so I understand where the confusion came from.

    • @aprinnyonbreak1290
      @aprinnyonbreak1290 2 года назад +29

      Malva was one of the funniest things in Pokemon the first time I encountered her. Normally, I have a pretty decent memory for obscure appearances of side characters, so I got to genuinely experience the glee of having actually completely forgotten about a total side character, and being able to stonewall their beef with you with sheer ignorance and non-aknowledgement. Before sweeping her with my disgustingly overlevelled team because haha exp share

  • @AisSora
    @AisSora 2 года назад +1

    Amazing video! Thank you for all the hard work

  • @TheEvilProfessorMonoCulture
    @TheEvilProfessorMonoCulture 2 года назад +8

    I think the reason a kid is able to beat most adults in the Pokémon world is because training Pokémon is a huge time commitment and is really only something a kid can do since most adults probably have part time jobs and chose their Pokémon on their ability to help them in their daily lives.

  • @DarthFennec
    @DarthFennec 4 года назад +371

    "Then you come back into town and meet Lily, who's looking for the library, and then you meet Professor Goddamn Oak. What a legend. It took them this long to really start putting old characters in the new games, but I'm glad they finally started doing it."
    ... so ... technically this is actually a new character. He says his name is Samson Oak, and the Oak from the original games is Samuel Oak. They're cousins. Sorry to disappoint. However, Red and Blue are both in the Battle Tree, so I guess you get limited interaction with them later, that's something at least.

    • @CrystalGreymon
      @CrystalGreymon 4 года назад +5

      There is so little different between Samuel and Samson that they're pretty much still literally the same character.
      Y'know what'd have been a treat?
      Seeing Professor Elm. Remember him?

    • @hezakiahmecham7696
      @hezakiahmecham7696 4 года назад

      @@CrystalGreymon I always forget about Elm...he's a bit of an odd duck, to say the least.

  • @markprangan6802
    @markprangan6802 4 года назад +135

    I mean, whichever twin comes out of the womb first is technically the “older brother”, but whatever, i guess

    • @thomastakesatollforthedark2231
      @thomastakesatollforthedark2231 4 года назад +9

      THANK YOU! I was looking for this comment. And what did he expect to be said? "The brother who had " and "the brother who had "?

  • @Sayrden
    @Sayrden 2 года назад +5

    5:09 Way back in the Before Times (~1996), I remember reading about this upcoming "Pocket Monsters" game where you'd train animals to fight the villainous "Team Rocket". I remember thinking that they must be setting up a nature vs. technology theme. After all, if the hero fought using their friendly squad of trained monsters, surely villains called "Team Rocket" would attack with _clunky smog-spewing robots_ rather than other animals, right?
    Part of me really wants to see what that alternate universe version of Pokémon would've become after the 20+ years that have passed.

    • @mynameisNeo369
      @mynameisNeo369 2 года назад

      Nice use of creative/artistic license, the Before Times 😂 definitely sums up early to mid 90s

  • @With_Kris
    @With_Kris 8 месяцев назад +4

    2:18:17 "the stone did not belong to me but I kept it out of spite because she didn't tell me her name" that's a great line 😂

  • @frickinfrick8488
    @frickinfrick8488 4 года назад +862

    I would like to add a few things about Gen 3’s plot just because I know those games ridiculously well and wanna share some details for those who are curious.
    1. team aqua and magma don’t just wanna expand the land and water for the sake of it (although they barely explain it in the original games so I don’t blame people for not knowing that). Aqua wants to expand the ocean for environmental purposes cause Pokémon rely on the ocean and sea life is dying out I guess. Magma wants to expand the land for overpopulation reasons, Maxie thinks people need more land to accompany the growing population. Still pretty stupid but I just thought I’d mention they actually have motivations.
    2. The reason for why stopping the volcano’s activity is bad as given in the manga was that it would 1. Ruin the hot springs in Laveridge town and 2. Fuck up the weather patterns or something making hoenn colder than it should be. Still stupid but yeah.
    3. Even though the Bike Shop guy didn’t say giving you a bike was for advertising, it’s implied it was indeed for advertising. In the cycling road one of the cyclists mentions something like “oh that’s a bike from Rydel. How can I tell. Why it’s written all over it, rydel rydel rydel rydel rydel rydel” which I thought was a funny little detail. He played it cool but he gave you an advertisement of a bike.
    4. Archie and Maxie aren’t mad that there’s more water or drought than they expected, they’re mad because they’re unable to control the legendary because apparently using the red orb on the red Pokémon and the blue orb on the blue Pokémon is too advanced for these 3 IQ children. They pissed off the legendary by smashing the square peg through the circle hole and now everything’s falling to shit because nobody can control them until, you bring the circle peg to fix everything.
    5. Just a small point but I think Brendan works slightly better as a rival than May if you’re a girl. He kinda starts off as a sexist douche who doesn’t think a strong trainer would be a girl and as a little girl that made me wanna beat his ass. They’re still boring rivals though they don’t really have a character arc until the remakes.
    This isn’t me being like “omg you’re so dumb how did you not know that”, most of these details aren’t noticeable unless you read the manga or play the remakes, I just wanted to mention these details for anyone who’s interested. Your criticisms about it are still mostly valid, the motivations are pretty dumb and the plot isn’t well explained in game.
    Also in Gen 5, a cool detail is that N’s teams are always made up of Pokémon he can find in that specific location. I think this is meant to imply that he doesn’t train and keep Pokémon like we do, and instead uses his ability to communicate with Pokémon to recruit Pokémon in his immediate vicinity to fight with him. Just an interesting detail I wanted to mention.

    • @frickinfrick8488
      @frickinfrick8488 4 года назад +72

      Your local professional idiot. His final team could possibly the Pokémon he grew up with within the castle, like his childhood friends. Considering it’s hinted he grew up with his Zorua it’d make sense with the Zoroark on his team.

    • @myfellowsonicfans7131
      @myfellowsonicfans7131 4 года назад +16

      It’s not like expecting a girl to be poor at at an activity like Pokémon, which is a lot like a sport in the Pokémon world is unfounded though, the rival is also always a douche but the dude/dudette also expects you to be reasonably shitter than they are since they started first.
      But yeah the Rivals are much better in the remakes, although still about as 1 dimensional as all rivals are, not including N... and maybe Wally.

    • @thotsi
      @thotsi 4 года назад +90

      @Vela S stupid? whats stupid about a girl wanting to beat a male character's ass for being mildly insulting (as a part of the game)? get invested more.

    • @keiyakins
      @keiyakins 4 года назад +42

      Are you implying N is a ranger, not a trainer? ... Actually yeah that sounds right.

    • @B0K0691
      @B0K0691 4 года назад +10

      >Implying that anything other than the game is canon

  • @yey8288
    @yey8288 2 года назад +277

    In X and Y, the reason the fire elite four member calls you a hero in quotes is because she was a part of Team Flare, so she views you as an issue because you literally just destroyed the team she was an admin for.

    • @samreddig8819
      @samreddig8819 Год назад +2

      I never noticed that

    • @leargamma4912
      @leargamma4912 Год назад +4

      Does she ever mention something like that in-game with daialogue? Or are you left to figure it out for yourself based on seeing her before with the news from the holo-caster thing?

    • @va-v
      @va-v Год назад +7

      @@leargamma4912 Didn't she appear in the post-game story with Looker or something?

    • @hannahc3317
      @hannahc3317 Год назад +2

      @@va-v I'm pretty sure she does

    • @KazShiro
      @KazShiro Год назад +3

      @@leargamma4912 She appears in the postgame and straight up fights you and confirms it. Any player who pays attention before then could make connections given her hostile nature towards you and her overall design.

  • @thomasjakob6343
    @thomasjakob6343 2 года назад +8

    for any game with a third choice to play definitely choose that one. such as emerald over ruby or sapphire it is very different and the ending has this amazing scene considering it was from the Gameboy advanced.

  • @Activesilver97
    @Activesilver97 2 года назад +6

    1:13:55 twins can become older and younger to one another based on seconds, mins, even hours apart. And the older one at time hold that against the younger one.

  • @krankarvolund7771
    @krankarvolund7771 3 года назад +1941

    "I think everyone in this game is taller than your character"
    Shockingly, adults are often taller than 12 years old boys ^^

    • @CreepySlade
      @CreepySlade 3 года назад +40

      But Lillie is taller than your character and they’re the same age

    • @krankarvolund7771
      @krankarvolund7771 3 года назад +108

      @@CreepySlade First we don't know what age is Lillie, she could be 15 ^^
      Second, that's one character taller than you, hard to make it a general rule XD

    • @BaeCat872
      @BaeCat872 3 года назад +18

      Krankar Volund lmao why are you weirdly insisting that she’s probably 15?

    • @krankarvolund7771
      @krankarvolund7771 3 года назад +50

      @@BaeCat872 Because it's coherent with the fact she's taller than Hau and the main character? ^^

    • @eleanorsfate445
      @eleanorsfate445 3 года назад +64

      @@krankarvolund7771 Much more important question, what's with you and ending practically every sentence with "^^"?

  • @CosmicDoom47
    @CosmicDoom47 2 года назад +343

    A lot of the dialogue in Sun and Moon is so well written, but out of sight. Visiting Guzma’s (abusive) dad is one example that really makes his character make a lot of sense

  • @jolynncampbell4954
    @jolynncampbell4954 10 месяцев назад

    This, my friend, is a fantastic video. You can see the work, time, and effort you put into it.. it was a pleasure to watch and made me laugh plenty of times! Coming from a life-long pokemon fan, you did extremely well with this one. Thanks for making this!!!

  • @chic0late
    @chic0late 2 года назад +1

    Dude, when are you gonna make another one of these evaluating games stories? I need MOAR. I genuinely enjoyed this video and pray you make more. I’ve been rewatching this one specifically because of how described the bad (and good, but mostly bad) things with the games.

    • @chic0late
      @chic0late 2 года назад

      Well you described *

  • @danic8766
    @danic8766 3 года назад +983

    People are too harsh on Lillie. It’s hinted enough throughout the game that she’s a victim of emotional abuse. When she “stops being useless” she’s overcoming her insecurities that were a result of her mother treating her like garbage. She’s also like 11 years old.

    • @surprisinglyunshittyqualit2214
      @surprisinglyunshittyqualit2214 2 года назад +364

      Hinted-
      Her mother just straight up abandoned her for a jellyfish and calling her ugly. If that's a hint I don't wanna see clear.

    • @ZoraTheExplora
      @ZoraTheExplora 2 года назад +4

      It's her voice actor that's ass. Infact all the voice actors are ass now.

    • @kristiano100
      @kristiano100 2 года назад +99

      @@ZoraTheExplora wdym? In the anime? This is discussion about the game's storylines, in the anime Lusamine isn't even abusive towards Lillie

    • @kalashnikovdevil
      @kalashnikovdevil 2 года назад +98

      I can't understand how anyone could hate Lillie. She's fine as sidekicks go for this franchise, and she's way more pleasant than freaking Hau.

    • @shortbdubs
      @shortbdubs 2 года назад +22

      @@ZoraTheExplora where did anyone mention the anime? and where did the salt factory mention the anime?

  • @whishiwhooshi5783
    @whishiwhooshi5783 4 года назад +298

    Lily: I love you
    Sun and Moon protagonist: Yeah okay, I don't care.

    • @Sonicsis
      @Sonicsis 4 года назад +31

      More like "I love you, you gave me the inspiration and encouragement to become independent so I wanna be more like you"
      Sun moon protag: ye, bye.

    • @friendlywobbly9903
      @friendlywobbly9903 4 года назад +9

      *DON'T CARE. DIDN'T ASK.
      PLUS YOU'RE LILY.*

  • @thespacebat
    @thespacebat 9 месяцев назад +3

    It's crazy how much better the post game story in X/Y was than the main story.