If you are gaming at 1080p, a Radeon RX 580 series is awesome, for me that is. I've been using it for 3 years and still quite capable to play current titles.
@@gejamugamlatsoomanam7716 Ultra kills even high end cards on those games though. AAA games are only a tiny portion of the games that are out there and most of them are hardware friendly. For most f2p online shooters and games from a few years ago its still perfectly relevant.
for people looking to buy this: -- overwatch players, this runs very smoothly with high fps on max graphics, no frame skips, it is great. -- Minecraft players this gpu is great for its price, you can run up to 500 fps with this gpu on a pvp texture pack with mid graphics. -- R6S players, this gpu runs around 150 - 200 fps in game, with med - high graphics. - Warzone players, this gpu will run warzone at a low - med fps rate, but decently smooth with slight to none fps skips.
it's basically an RX 570 8gb, you can run all those game on high with a real 580. These were released for the Chinese market and not the same as a 580, I have both, I bought one to crossfire and found out they are not the same as a 580, I also have an old 480 4gb and the 480 gets a better furmark score than these "580's"
I think 8gb has become the norm but top 5 on steam is still 4-6gb. You've also got the Switch 2 taking its time, APU handhelds gaining popularity, 1080p still dominating, the looming recession and GPU prices going up again ... I think studios have a lot of reasons to make their minimum specs 4-6gb for some time yet.
It wasn't really a question of what you like. It's what you can get by with. Ofcourse you'd want more, but not everyone can drop the money on one/ a system appropriate for one. No need to flex your system here.
@@aboveaveragebayleaf9216 Yeah. 1650 tops the charts, 1050ti is 4th and 3060 laptop is 5th. Fair to say a lot of the 4-6gb crowd are laptop users with no cheap upgrade path, especially to 8gb. And with the 6gb 4050 laptops launching at $1000, 6gb is still going to be pricy and 8gb more so.
8gb vram helps when you can't max out the settings. Like rx 570 for example, you can max out the textures and it looks good even when you're on a mix of med-high
4 - 6 is still the norm cuz of the Rtx 3050 , Rx 6500xt , GTX 1060 , Rtx 3060 and Rtx 2060 and Rx 580 . All these card still runs smoothly today but only at med settings at 1080p 60fps which is the same as a ps4 slim and Xbox one S , but 8 - 12 will become the norm in less than 2 years but a Rx 6600 and Rtx 3060ti 8gb don't use their full VRAM on 1080p sometimes
If I had to guess, the brush probably intended to clean PCI Express slot of your motherboard. Just in case somebody plug it in on their old-dust-infested of a PC. If anything, I'd say that is a thoughtful and good will of a gesture from them. Also, personally I'd consider it as a solid GPU. For 70 bucks? That's a steal! Now I kinda want to see what Buildzoid has to say should he has one of these in hand.
I got one of this cards, tho MLSSE branded. It may be the same supplier as it looks pretty much the same as this one (8pin power conector, but that just enables a bit of OC). I was originally searching for replacement fans for an xfx 480 (current ones can't spin that fast no more), thought it might be worth the trip when I stumbled on the product page. What I got surpassed the old 480 From what I understand, these are remanufactured cards made out of salvaged cores mostly from mining GPUs. I've seen many models, ranging from 3080 to these 580 2048sp. 580 2048sp, 5600xt, 6600m, 5700xt are readily available (at least for the time being) They seem to be good options, except for the nvidia non standard skus (such as desktop 3060m) as those can't use regular drivers.
@@bitelaserkhalif The problem with those is that nvidia doesn't provide drivers for non standard skus. Depending on a random retailer across the world for constant support is terribly problematic.
Not bad at all. Yeah it's an older GPU but it's still supported, and from the looks of things, still running really well. Performance wise, it's on par w/ the 1650S / 6500xt and it has double the vram of those cards. Solid find.
Wow, pretty amazing performance. I would be interested to see how this performs running more recent emulation titles. I am in the market to build a PC that runs Launchbox exclusively, and this GPU may be the answer for the graphics without spending a ton of money. Thanks for the excellent benchmark tests. I have seen rumors online that the included brush is to brush on Sriracha Chili which will make it run faster. I don't know if I believe it or not, but I wouldn't try it.
I have used a similar cards from peladin, and with Danish tax they cost 105-110 $ but this is amazing. It was great value 3 months ago but now its... Perfect...
I was gaming with an HP ITX RX 480 4GB until last year and the 4 GB wasn't really an issue. The i5-6402p was the limiting factor in that build, even though it held up amazingly well for an older 4 core (no HT) CPU. I got that RX 480 for 45 bucks shipped used in 2018. I thought I was buying a 4GB R7 450 for a cheap low power GPU to throw in an old Dell to give to somebody needing a PC (and that card would at least let them do some gaming- 720p and older/casual games). but then that HP ITX RX 480 arrived. It wasn't what I wanted for the old Dell, but my original RX 480 died on my gaming PC about the same time so I just swapped that one in. Best 45 bucks I ever spent. Thing is tiny too. It's now in another system I gave away (after thoroughly cleaning the card)- so it lives on. Reminds me of my first AMD/ATI card- the HD 5670 1GB. That card was usable for a very long time and I got it cheap open box- like under 60 bucks.
I find the idea that there are games in which you can commit random depravities disturbingly compelling. Maybe I should consider looking into getting some professional help.
Unfortunately the cheapest 8GB RX 580 I can buy now from Ali Express is priced at 100 US$. Different shipping destinations has significant different prices (tax, currency conversion etc).
Looks like a good deal, However you are limited by CPU cache (12M) in the games that require rendering complex animations and npcAI such as horizon and red dead, case in point 5800x3d's insane performance. there is not much difference between the two at stock clocks and power settings. I have two MSI 580's in a X79 1680 v2 @4.4 using them for 4 years now overclocked. Still blows me away, the drivers/performance got better and better as they aged. When using FSR 2.X you can get some impressive 4K results. Horizon Zero run at 75-60 fps for me on one overclocked genuine 580. CP77 at 60 average at 1080p medium/high with FSR quality.
There's a fair few channels making vids about these right now. It's a great find and an awesome choice for someone wanting to put together a budget 1080p gaming build. For any Aussies, they work out at just under $123AUD all up if you want to order one in Australia, which is still awesome price to performance.
@@TechDweeb I ordered one of these and yep, the performance is indeed there when compared to my ASUS RX 580 in the same rig. Anyone wanting to game at 1080p should grab one. It's interesting because there are so many things that would traditionally raise a lot of red flags with these cards, but they really do the job even though they are slightly cut-down with the streaming processors.
many local Best Buys have instock XFX 580 8 for $150, thats what I would reccomend. Any clone card may or may not be a used gpu chip, I would highly suggest leaving it running overnight on a game load and come back and check it the next day if it still posts and no artifacts, there are reports that some of them dont hold up and are fragile, they dont really test them at their factorys once they are assembled, all they are doing is a quick check to see if it posts. Even a legit card wether its new or used you really should do the same overnight stress test.
in philippines we have 2 ali express type store shopee and lazada this particular brand is called VRGMPL in them we get these cards common there but my country men ignore them just cause its china they prefer the 2nd hand gpu market in philippine which is horrible price wise and quality wise since they are branded gpu but they have been used so much and not taken care of to the point of they die faster than a mining card
my rx 570 paired with i7 7700k plays everything fine,high settings fluid gameplay,using full resolution on 4k hdr android screen,doing alot of different applications,even all core type r,and coinopss,and modern racing games...havent found a game yet that wont play,think maybe lot of people buying shit they dont need....
My I also own a RX 580 and don't plan on changing to a new one. I can play CoD MW2 with mx settings 1080p and FSR on with stable 60fps-70fps. Lets see if it can run Atomic heart when it comes out.
All in all, these are cut down (2048 stream processors) ex-mining chips , closer to RX 570. Cards are new (PCB, transistors, capacitors, fans) , Do not go for cheapest, you have examples from somewhat reputable companies (MLLSE, JieShuo ...) for like $80 . In fact, if you have few extra bucks, for $100 you could get RX 5500. Overall, not a bad deal, but bear in mind these are refurbished, not new cards.
You know what, if the 4070ti came with a brush and Chinese Good Buy Happy Time, maybe then it would be worth it haha. This GPU, clearly the better deal.
I'm not going to go through all the comments, but I'm going to just say that the brush is probably for cleaning the fan blades. I got plenty of GPUs but it makes me want to buy one of these budget ones just because it's it's a good value 🤣
Scam narrowly avoided, that box did not inspire confidence. Good job TD, aliexpress... there be dragons here, I've been scammed a couple times too, but those prices are just clickbait with the occasional diamond... also did you notice graphics player shares a logo with Guerrilla Games
I bought an indie game for xmas called Broken Pieces, if you max out all the graphics settings the vram goes all the way up to 8000mb and its stay there, so yeah some of these newer games are being developed and assuming you have an 8gb card or larger vram card. If you max out your vram and it never goes over 6000 thats invidia fault because they are sting when it comes to vram and so many developer develop their game assuming your more than likely running a budget invidia card.
60FPS represents $1.20 per frame. You ain't getting that from any other card you can buy new at this time. With one of these you can build a basic 60FPS 1080P gaming PC with all new parts for £250. Styling wise it's fine, looks like a graphics card and that's fine. 8GB and performs like (a bit better) than a 1650S for $72 without looking like it's been getto modded by 6 year olds is a great deal.
Thank You!! I have an old Motherboard & CPU that needs some DDR2 ram sticks. But I've been avoiding that due to it not having onboard video (If it's the one I think it is). This video gives me hope I'll be able to bring it back to life for a reasonable cost.
Thanks for the info. I"m from Southeast Asia and I'm glad there is a company that sells cheap rx580s in my place. They call themselves Aisurix and they claimed they are from Australia.
🤣 You are Absolutely the most honest and entertaining reviewer I have ever met on RUclips (well, not met, but viewed). I am so pleased that you are here Sir. Entertaining but informative.
You cannot beat that fps/$. I have a 2018 RX 580 8GB (I got used for $120 in 2020) and like you show that 'rx 570+'? is well capable and pretty much matched my set-up...I may be cpu bound though... i7 2600K. Yep. like 12 years old!
@@alexfriedman8670 It's got 4cores/8 threads OC @ 4.4GHz, does not thermal-throttle and is usually at 60% utilization when gaming. 😎 I could even slightly upgrade to a better GPU and be ok.
I would have loved to see something on power consumption compared to a 2304SP RX 580. The 580 isn't the most power hungry GPU obviously, but given some parts of the world are more concerned about energy prices, I think it would have been worth looking into whether or not a 2040SP RX 580 is noticably different in terms of power consumption while gaming.
That was a very very surprising buy you've got. I'm going to keep a close eye on Aliexpress from now on. Just wondered if that price you got was customs fees included cause I know some times they charge you on buys from China.
Still have my Power Color Red Dragon RX 580 8Gb with 2 free games for $189 brand new, I bought some RX 570 4Gb and 8Gb cards for $129 /$149 new with free games, sold some off but very fun to Crossfire on x58 platform, no ribbon needed.
I just bought an unbranded RX580 2048SP for $115AUS from eBay. I was really hesitant about putting it in a new budget rig. I threw it in anyway and it was quickly recognized by Adrenalin that installed the drivers successfully. It was a pleasant surprise to see it competing with my GTX 1660 Super in my main budget rig. It even ran cooler than my GTX1660S. Frame rates were lower but if I didn't know that my GTX1660S had been replaced with this, it might be a day or so before I started to get suspicious. Not a bad card at all.
Wait a tick, it must be 100% quintessential but if you rotate their logo it looks awfully lot like the Guerrilla studio logo, the studio behind the critically acclaimed Killzone and Horizon game franchises.
I replaced my 1060 3GB with a 580 2048 SP, and I haven't regretted it. More VRAM and slightly better performance and much lower temperatures. It fits my i3 9100F perfectly!
Man why is nobody mentioning the 1060 all of a sudden? It did the thing way before the 1030 and im sure there are others before these that i am unaware of. But basically the 3gb 1060 is not a 1060 as its a cut down version of the 6gb. It should have been called 1050 ti.
TL;DR: As far as i've heard this is a version of RX 580, released years ago for the chinese market (with lower specs). It's not the same as the original RX 580 but a marketed version of a card with specs between 570 and 580. There's a high chance these are not new, but bought and they just change the cooler kit and resell it. And you are not sure if it was used for mining (heavy process). So it's a bit of a gamble, but worth it for $65, if you cant afford anything and wanna game on 1080 on medium settings with 60Hz.
It's a good card for a second hand pc. I have a main pc with a 12 core amd paired with a 2070 super for 1440 game play.. My other second hand pc uses an amd 6 core apu...tiny pc. I use it for 24/7 MMO ....black desert. May build a 3rd pc for emulation and this gpu will probably do the job. Good find and thanks for sharing this with us. Love the channel...
Hi techdweeb! I found your channel recently and I really like the way you do your videos, they help me relax 😅. Love the content and I hope your doing well: :D
Bought a gigabyte rtx 2060 for 140 bucks and the person that sold it was living near my place and we had to test it before I paid him. It was second hand but the unit was very clean and looked new.
@@smokegames1179 I needed to undervolt mine cause the thermals was way too hot for my liking and now it stays within 70c with heavy graphic setting games. I always undervolt my cards and they last longer if they don't cook themselves to death.
Aisurix is a new brand from china or asia that we from south east asia are buying. Its cheap and has the rx 580, 5500, 6600, 6600xt and gtx 1660. Try it
I considered an RX580/570, but the last time I bought an RX480... it lasted about 4-6 months. I should probably downclock the memory on the GPU and see if it will stabilize.
My rx 570 lasted 3 years before I upgraded and it still works really well so I gave the card to my brother. I did undervolt the card to keep it running cool and it didn't affect the performance. When you buy a card always test and monitor the thermals first to see if goes beyond the heat it can withstand and to see if there's an issue with the card so you can return it immediately.
@@mareck6946 it was a gigabyte OC model. I tried repasting it. I suspect it just has a faulty core or memory. It was one of those "crash under load" type of things. It would usually just freeze the system. From what I remember, it's not a temperature issue.
@@greenprotag usually cores are fine and polaris is VERY sturdy for a gpu. But crash under load can be if one of the VRM rails has some "tired" caps - as usually the mosfets are fine - tho id still check em.
@@TechDweeb my PC journey started this year and I do have to say you're content is at the level of randomgaminginhd and budget builds online. You deserve more subs do you happen to have an official discord server?
What is it's power usage? The moment youtube channels started making videos about this card the price went to aroun 100 on aliexpress and even higher on amazon.
I don't recall the exact numbers (sorry, I should have included it in my afterburner data), but it was slightly less power usage than the regular RX 580.
Yeah I did see that, and it's super weird. I don't see anyone in the reviews who got anything other than an RX 580. I think they're just really bad at making store pages tbh. They probably copy/pasted some text that doesn't apply 😒
dude the brush the and the fire proof molex 6 pin adapter is already like 10 bucks. so u r getting the GPU for somehtin like 60 bucks... spekaing of... on amazon AND aliexpress i cant find offers less than 110/100 $ btw. the core clock seems like 70Mhz less and the memory clock is even 250Mhz less. Shouldnt make much a difference though. Guess thats why the 6Pin instead of 8Pin of the originial (6 Pin being a pro in this case) btw i also found some aliexpress offers where the rx580 only has x8 Pcie instead of x16, so definitly pay attentention there
It's a good thing it can play Horizon: Zero dawn, considering the logo on the box basically is a stolen and inverted copy of Guerrilla Games' logo, the original developer of the title.
Hey back when I wanted to hop back in . I paid $70 for some 7870 GHOST that didnt work i had to reflow ram GPU then I was able to play.. so $70 and you get a REAL GPU
Should've gone for Aisurix or MLLSE. That particular brand has more failure than other Aliexpress brands I have seen. Btw, how many pcie pins does that one you got need, 6 or 8 pins? I heard they put random dies in there, so you might have an RX 470 die in there if it has 6 pcie pins.
I'm using one albeit under a different brand 'Aisurix'. No complaints it works like a charm! Only problem I encountered is AMD drivers still suck to this day.
Just found out when I took my mingzhou RX 580 card apart. That the one got was not an RX580 but an ex mining RX470 card made in 2017. I had truble when I tryed to over clock it but it only go up to a clock speed 1206 mhz 2000 mhz memory clock with no problms but go any higher then that and it do all sort of horible things If you get one they work ok but i change the paste
Honestly 70$ does not surprise me. If anything they should almost be cheaper at this point. The RX480 was 230$ for the 8gb model in 2016. Yes like 6.25 years ago! it was never a high end card to begin with. Its just that todays market has really messed up pricing on everything. I was one of those who purchased an RX 580 in early 2019 for just 100$. Which is roughly what I felt they were worth back then. In fact we are to a point where RX580s are finally showing their age in the most recent titles. RX580 in 2023 is what HD Radeon 7970 was in 2019 and these two cards are only like 60% difference in performance. I Know because I had a HD 7970.
i'm a 1440p gamer forced down to 1080p for now, now that i'm gaming on a gaming laptop for the first time ever although for what i spent i got a good deal IMO $800 all together msi gf63 thin i5 11400H/3050/intel UHD/32GB of 3200mhz ram/ 512GB kimgston mvmw boot drive/2.5" 500GB pny ssd *( i'm on the 3050 when plugged in and on the intel uhd on battery )*
screw the RX580, I nailed an rx 5600 XT for $70 a week ago. I also own an MSI Armor RX 580 8gb and the 5600xt is leaps and bounds better. 580 is a nice get your foot in the door card.
I'm deeply curious about how these things came to exist. I mean, they won't be "new", right? The GPUs are probably salvaged from old cards, just like on those old fake 1050 Tis. Did someone find a bunch of ex-mining cards with dead VRAM, perhaps?
I honestly don't know. I've tried to get to the bottom of it (aka 30 minutes of googling), and I couldn't. I don't think anyone knows for sure, no one who is answering questions anyways. Either a) they're new gpus, as in, they're still making rx 580 gpus somewhere. b) they're salvaged GPUs from ex mining cards or whatever. c) they're new gpus that were made a while ago and weren't turned into graphics cards for whatever reason. I'm leaning towards C, this seems to make the most sense. Maybe that's why this 2048sp version exists, if AMD had some RX 580 gpus where several of the cores were bad and had to be binned, they could push up the clock speed spec up to compensate and release them as a different GPU (but give it to the Chinese, they'll buy anything!). Or maybe AMD just had more 2048sp's available than demand could work with so they focused on the regular rx 580s and now they have bulk inventory to offload. I can only guess. I have yet to hear a reliable explanation that is anything more than speculation.
Hey Iceberg, follower of your channel here. You do great work! Simping aside, these cards are made from new PCBs, memory modules, VRMs, video out connections, etc. BUT, the GPU core has 99.9% probability of being used. Either from a mining GPU that died, or from a Cyber Cafe PC. Or even from a mining GPU that didn't die, but became useless after ETH went POS. I'm from Brazil and prices here are always awful. Taxes are way too high and sometimes I feel like our local retailers buy from foreign retailers instead of getting batches from the board partners. I suffered through the pandemic with lower end hardware and just got my 580 2048SP from AliExpress (paid 72 USD) and couldn't be happier with it. I don't ignore the risks of buying one of these. For instance, there's no real warranty. But at least this time around the chinese miners aren't just dumping tortured cards filled with dust, but (apparently) selling the chips to manufacturers that are actually putting some effort into making the product desirable. Some versions of the card even have custom made backplates from these chinese brands. Also, considering the fact that AMD released the 580 2048SP and the 590 GME (the 590 GME is just an OC'd RX 580, without the half node-shrink, nothing more, nothing less) in 2018, there's the hope that we'll have good driver support for at least another couple of years. So, to answer your question about them being "new"; no, they won't. But to give credit when it's due, some sellers on AliExpress detail this fact and announce the card as being "98~99% new", which is kinda funny.
If these only were available with next day shipping on Amazon in your local region. Gamble of will it arrive weeks or months later with shipping. Language barrier for customer support if it arrives damaged. Amazon have them but more chunk of change 159 with prime.
You know what's a deal? When Buying a RX 580 that is only used for 1 year and it's a Sapphire Nitro+ Pulse and bought it for only $35? Yes. I bought one recently and so good~ Also, VS 450 and Seasonic, Gigabyte (450~550) PSUs can help you lifelong your GPU~
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The RX580 8GB is one of the best Radeon cards ever made.
If you are gaming at 1080p, a Radeon RX 580 series is awesome, for me that is. I've been using it for 3 years and still quite capable to play current titles.
No, it isn't, 580 cant do 1080p without pushing settings to low. Rtx 3060 is the new minimum
@@gejamugamlatsoomanam7716 bro, I own the thing more than 3 years. To put some perspective, mine is capable of ultra setting borderlands 3.
At 60fps
@@alucardF91 try ultra on crysis 2 remastered , cyberpunk 2077 , final fantasy 14
@@gejamugamlatsoomanam7716 Ultra kills even high end cards on those games though. AAA games are only a tiny portion of the games that are out there and most of them are hardware friendly. For most f2p online shooters and games from a few years ago its still perfectly relevant.
for people looking to buy this: -- overwatch players, this runs very smoothly with high fps on max graphics, no frame skips, it is great. -- Minecraft players this gpu is great for its price, you can run up to 500 fps with this gpu on a pvp texture pack with mid graphics. -- R6S players, this gpu runs around 150 - 200 fps in game, with med - high graphics. - Warzone players, this gpu will run warzone at a low - med fps rate, but decently smooth with slight to none fps skips.
Super helpful. TY!
it's basically an RX 570 8gb, you can run all those game on high with a real 580. These were released for the Chinese market and not the same as a 580, I have both, I bought one to crossfire and found out they are not the same as a 580, I also have an old 480 4gb and the 480 gets a better furmark score than these "580's"
@@RighAlban bought "580" for 70 dollars, it's such an upgrade from a gtx 750
@@RighAlban you can flash a 570 8GB bios onto these and get some better performance numbers, most notably in Crossfire
I think 8gb has become the norm but top 5 on steam is still 4-6gb. You've also got the Switch 2 taking its time, APU handhelds gaining popularity, 1080p still dominating, the looming recession and GPU prices going up again ... I think studios have a lot of reasons to make their minimum specs 4-6gb for some time yet.
i like 12GB cards or better like the 3080Ti that's what was in my destroyed tower
It wasn't really a question of what you like. It's what you can get by with. Ofcourse you'd want more, but not everyone can drop the money on one/ a system appropriate for one. No need to flex your system here.
@@aboveaveragebayleaf9216 Yeah. 1650 tops the charts, 1050ti is 4th and 3060 laptop is 5th. Fair to say a lot of the 4-6gb crowd are laptop users with no cheap upgrade path, especially to 8gb. And with the 6gb 4050 laptops launching at $1000, 6gb is still going to be pricy and 8gb more so.
8gb vram helps when you can't max out the settings. Like rx 570 for example, you can max out the textures and it looks good even when you're on a mix of med-high
4 - 6 is still the norm cuz of the Rtx 3050 , Rx 6500xt , GTX 1060 , Rtx 3060 and Rtx 2060 and Rx 580 . All these card still runs smoothly today but only at med settings at 1080p 60fps which is the same as a ps4 slim and Xbox one S , but 8 - 12 will become the norm in less than 2 years but a Rx 6600 and Rtx 3060ti 8gb don't use their full VRAM on 1080p sometimes
The voice of Steve Erkel and the hands of Shaquille O'Neil.
😂
I don't know why, but the fact that, this comment is written by Disney's mouse, makes it hilarious.
If I had to guess, the brush probably intended to clean PCI Express slot of your motherboard. Just in case somebody plug it in on their old-dust-infested of a PC.
If anything, I'd say that is a thoughtful and good will of a gesture from them.
Also, personally I'd consider it as a solid GPU. For 70 bucks? That's a steal!
Now I kinda want to see what Buildzoid has to say should he has one of these in hand.
That is a brilliant buy. So much performance for so little money. You really don't need more.
I got one of this cards, tho MLSSE branded. It may be the same supplier as it looks pretty much the same as this one (8pin power conector, but that just enables a bit of OC).
I was originally searching for replacement fans for an xfx 480 (current ones can't spin that fast no more), thought it might be worth the trip when I stumbled on the product page. What I got surpassed the old 480
From what I understand, these are remanufactured cards made out of salvaged cores mostly from mining GPUs. I've seen many models, ranging from 3080 to these 580 2048sp. 580 2048sp, 5600xt, 6600m, 5700xt are readily available (at least for the time being)
They seem to be good options, except for the nvidia non standard skus (such as desktop 3060m) as those can't use regular drivers.
Also the 3060m and 3070m
@@bitelaserkhalif The problem with those is that nvidia doesn't provide drivers for non standard skus.
Depending on a random retailer across the world for constant support is terribly problematic.
I got one from MLSSE too, but the gpu clock and vram clock are always stuck at 300mhz for some reason :(
@@felipevar At idle that is normal. If you have those frequencies in games then they shouldn't be playable at all (a pretty big problem).
@@felipevar you can change that on amd adrenaline
Not bad at all. Yeah it's an older GPU but it's still supported, and from the looks of things, still running really well. Performance wise, it's on par w/ the 1650S / 6500xt and it has double the vram of those cards. Solid find.
And half of the price when compared to these cards. Actually very good deal.
Feels like this kind of GPU is saving anyone that is in need
Also in our country the name of the seller here is Aisurix
Wow, pretty amazing performance. I would be interested to see how this performs running more recent emulation titles. I am in the market to build a PC that runs Launchbox exclusively, and this GPU may be the answer for the graphics without spending a ton of money. Thanks for the excellent benchmark tests.
I have seen rumors online that the included brush is to brush on Sriracha Chili which will make it run faster. I don't know if I believe it or not, but I wouldn't try it.
I have more emulation tests coming up soon, I'll consider doing one for this GPU.
And some Sriracha benchmarks too, of course 🔥
what an underated channel, you deserve mo subs, really detailed on this GPU analysis, thank you
I have built several systems for the local iRacing league using RX570 GPUs with great success, Im a fan of them in their price to performance
Is this with multi monitor setups by any chance?
@@PeteN14LDN I dont know the specifics of their setups but they have all been very happy
I have used a similar cards from peladin, and with Danish tax they cost 105-110 $ but this is amazing. It was great value 3 months ago but now its... Perfect...
I miss my 580. I sold it 1-2 years back because the rest of my system was falling apart, and I opted for a new laptop.
I was gaming with an HP ITX RX 480 4GB until last year and the 4 GB wasn't really an issue. The i5-6402p was the limiting factor in that build, even though it held up amazingly well for an older 4 core (no HT) CPU. I got that RX 480 for 45 bucks shipped used in 2018. I thought I was buying a 4GB R7 450 for a cheap low power GPU to throw in an old Dell to give to somebody needing a PC (and that card would at least let them do some gaming- 720p and older/casual games). but then that HP ITX RX 480 arrived. It wasn't what I wanted for the old Dell, but my original RX 480 died on my gaming PC about the same time so I just swapped that one in. Best 45 bucks I ever spent. Thing is tiny too. It's now in another system I gave away (after thoroughly cleaning the card)- so it lives on. Reminds me of my first AMD/ATI card- the HD 5670 1GB. That card was usable for a very long time and I got it cheap open box- like under 60 bucks.
Nice!
I find the idea that there are games in which you can commit random depravities disturbingly compelling. Maybe I should consider looking into getting some professional help.
Nothing wrong with a few gamer moments
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Unfortunately the cheapest 8GB RX 580 I can buy now from Ali Express is priced at 100 US$. Different shipping destinations has significant different prices (tax, currency conversion etc).
its crazy how they managed to dish out 8 giggle byte of vram at that price!
I had to stop the video and laugh for a full minute when I saw that paint brush in the box! Comedy gold!
Looks like a good deal, However you are limited by CPU cache (12M) in the games that require rendering complex animations and npcAI such as horizon and red dead, case in point 5800x3d's insane performance. there is not much difference between the two at stock clocks and power settings. I have two MSI 580's in a X79 1680 v2 @4.4 using them for 4 years now overclocked. Still blows me away, the drivers/performance got better and better as they aged. When using FSR 2.X you can get some impressive 4K results. Horizon Zero run at 75-60 fps for me on one overclocked genuine 580. CP77 at 60 average at 1080p medium/high with FSR quality.
i would actually like to see you paint with that brush
There's a fair few channels making vids about these right now. It's a great find and an awesome choice for someone wanting to put together a budget 1080p gaming build. For any Aussies, they work out at just under $123AUD all up if you want to order one in Australia, which is still awesome price to performance.
Definitely!
@@TechDweeb I ordered one of these and yep, the performance is indeed there when compared to my ASUS RX 580 in the same rig. Anyone wanting to game at 1080p should grab one. It's interesting because there are so many things that would traditionally raise a lot of red flags with these cards, but they really do the job even though they are slightly cut-down with the streaming processors.
Flashed my similar 2048sp with a compatible 580 bios, overclocked mine and works well at 1344mhz/2000mhz and undervolted at 1050mv bought at Shoppee
Wich BIOS ? Thanks
many local Best Buys have instock XFX 580 8 for $150, thats what I would reccomend. Any clone card may or may not be a used gpu chip, I would highly suggest leaving it running overnight on a game load and come back and check it the next day if it still posts and no artifacts, there are reports that some of them dont hold up and are fragile, they dont really test them at their factorys once they are assembled, all they are doing is a quick check to see if it posts. Even a legit card wether its new or used you really should do the same overnight stress test.
can you include a trusty site please? I know I'm late 😅
in philippines we have 2 ali express type store shopee and lazada
this particular brand is called VRGMPL in them
we get these cards common there but my country men ignore them just cause its china
they prefer the 2nd hand gpu market in philippine which is horrible price wise and quality wise since they are branded gpu
but they have been used so much and not taken care of to the point of they die faster than a mining card
my rx 570 paired with i7 7700k plays everything fine,high settings fluid gameplay,using full resolution on 4k hdr android screen,doing alot of different applications,even all core type r,and coinopss,and modern racing games...havent found a game yet that wont play,think maybe lot of people buying shit they dont need....
My I also own a RX 580 and don't plan on changing to a new one. I can play CoD MW2 with mx settings 1080p and FSR on with stable 60fps-70fps. Lets see if it can run Atomic heart when it comes out.
im glad i upgraded my motherboard last summer to have at least ONE pcie slot. thank god.
There are now some "RX 560 XT" cards doing the rounds on Ali!
Might be refurbished RX 470's or the RX 580 2048SP...
All in all, these are cut down (2048 stream processors) ex-mining chips , closer to RX 570. Cards are new (PCB, transistors, capacitors, fans) , Do not go for cheapest, you have examples from somewhat reputable companies (MLLSE, JieShuo ...) for like $80 . In fact, if you have few extra bucks, for $100 you could get RX 5500. Overall, not a bad deal, but bear in mind these are refurbished, not new cards.
You know what, if the 4070ti came with a brush and Chinese Good Buy Happy Time, maybe then it would be worth it haha. This GPU, clearly the better deal.
I'm not going to go through all the comments, but I'm going to just say that the brush is probably for cleaning the fan blades.
I got plenty of GPUs but it makes me want to buy one of these budget ones just because it's it's a good value 🤣
Scam narrowly avoided, that box did not inspire confidence. Good job TD, aliexpress... there be dragons here, I've been scammed a couple times too, but those prices are just clickbait with the occasional diamond... also did you notice graphics player shares a logo with Guerrilla Games
Are you accusing the esteemed Graphicsplayer of blatantly ripping off teh logo of a popular game company?
I just bought mine for right under 70 bucks, and I can't wait =)
I bought an indie game for xmas called Broken Pieces, if you max out all the graphics settings the vram goes all the way up to 8000mb and its stay there, so yeah some of these newer games are being developed and assuming you have an 8gb card or larger vram card. If you max out your vram and it never goes over 6000 thats invidia fault because they are sting when it comes to vram and so many developer develop their game assuming your more than likely running a budget invidia card.
60FPS represents $1.20 per frame. You ain't getting that from any other card you can buy new at this time. With one of these you can build a basic 60FPS 1080P gaming PC with all new parts for £250. Styling wise it's fine, looks like a graphics card and that's fine. 8GB and performs like (a bit better) than a 1650S for $72 without looking like it's been getto modded by 6 year olds is a great deal.
Yeah but those ghetto mods by 6 year olds have a quaint charm to them 🤔
@@TechDweeb
Stick one in an anime case from Aliexpress, it'll fit right in.
Thank You!!
I have an old Motherboard & CPU that needs some DDR2 ram sticks. But I've been avoiding that due to it not having onboard video (If it's the one I think it is).
This video gives me hope I'll be able to bring it back to life for a reasonable cost.
Thanks for the info. I"m from Southeast Asia and I'm glad there is a company that sells cheap rx580s in my place. They call themselves Aisurix and they claimed they are from Australia.
I just got that Aisurix Rx 580 last week. How's yours holding up?
🤣 You are Absolutely the most honest and entertaining reviewer I have ever met on RUclips (well, not met, but viewed). I am so pleased that you are here Sir. Entertaining but informative.
Appreciate you saying so!
@@TechDweeb keep doing what you are doing. Love your content. Great personality. You are one great Animaniac 🙂
You cannot beat that fps/$. I have a 2018 RX 580 8GB (I got used for $120 in 2020) and like you show that 'rx 570+'? is well capable and pretty much matched my set-up...I may be cpu bound though... i7 2600K. Yep. like 12 years old!
Definitely CPU bound!
@@alexfriedman8670 It's got 4cores/8 threads OC @ 4.4GHz, does not thermal-throttle and is usually at 60% utilization when gaming. 😎 I could even slightly upgrade to a better GPU and be ok.
@@courtney5796
My 4th Gen i7 bottlenecked my 1060 6GB a bit, a 580 is a more powerful card than the 1060.
Get 3770/3770k its same socket and significantly better
I would have loved to see something on power consumption compared to a 2304SP RX 580. The 580 isn't the most power hungry GPU obviously, but given some parts of the world are more concerned about energy prices, I think it would have been worth looking into whether or not a 2040SP RX 580 is noticably different in terms of power consumption while gaming.
Thanks for the video. I just ordered this exact card for $57usd. Just gotta wait now...
how it is now?
Is the paint brush a joke about brushing scams? That you'd think you're getting brushed but lo and behold it's legit?
That was a very very surprising buy you've got. I'm going to keep a close eye on Aliexpress from now on. Just wondered if that price you got was customs fees included cause I know some times they charge you on buys from China.
No customs fees for me, here in Canada.
That's a pastry brush for cooking i swear chinese are so funny, they think of you eatting when gaming lol
They're not wrong. I do like eating and gaming.
I got non SP version RX 580 8GB Pulse for 80 euros what a steal :D
Still have my Power Color Red Dragon RX 580 8Gb with 2 free games for $189 brand new, I bought some RX 570 4Gb and 8Gb cards for $129 /$149 new with free games, sold some off but very fun to Crossfire on x58 platform, no ribbon needed.
12:45 Makes me wonder how the Notre Dame looks like in the game. Considering it is..well...
But still cool to see it in this game.
I just bought an unbranded RX580 2048SP for $115AUS from eBay. I was really hesitant about putting it in a new budget rig. I threw it in anyway and it was quickly recognized by Adrenalin that installed the drivers successfully. It was a pleasant surprise to see it competing with my GTX 1660 Super in my main budget rig. It even ran cooler than my GTX1660S. Frame rates were lower but if I didn't know that my GTX1660S had been replaced with this, it might be a day or so before I started to get suspicious. Not a bad card at all.
just bought rx 580 for 100$ and i am loving it
runs destiny very well, just works very well, a bit loud but otherwise amazing
Bought one of these. I was totally surprised at it's performance and thankful at the same time. Lol
Wait a tick, it must be 100% quintessential but if you rotate their logo it looks awfully lot like the Guerrilla studio logo, the studio behind the critically acclaimed Killzone and Horizon game franchises.
No way. Theirs is totally unique and legitimate. How dare you besmirch the good name of Graphicsplayer!
I replaced my 1060 3GB with a 580 2048 SP, and I haven't regretted it. More VRAM and slightly better performance and much lower temperatures. It fits my i3 9100F perfectly!
I love this guys voice
Man why is nobody mentioning the 1060 all of a sudden? It did the thing way before the 1030 and im sure there are others before these that i am unaware of.
But basically the 3gb 1060 is not a 1060 as its a cut down version of the 6gb. It should have been called 1050 ti.
GTX 1060 3Gb is a lot stronger than a GTX 1050Ti 4Gb in my personal experience!
TL;DR: As far as i've heard this is a version of RX 580, released years ago for the chinese market (with lower specs). It's not the same as the original RX 580 but a marketed version of a card with specs between 570 and 580.
There's a high chance these are not new, but bought and they just change the cooler kit and resell it. And you are not sure if it was used for mining (heavy process).
So it's a bit of a gamble, but worth it for $65, if you cant afford anything and wanna game on 1080 on medium settings with 60Hz.
I WANT to think "teh" was purposeful
I got a shockingly "recent" 580 Nitro+ 4GB and have overclocked it to 590 performance lol
parts would damage themselves during placement and solder during manufacturing so its like a re moisturizer for electronics and plastics
8 gingerbread-bytes sign me up
They are basically RX 570s and 470s and they are very good for the low price. Great for 1080p games. The 8gb frame buffer is a plus, too.
Will it run scp sl?
Nice video man, was looking for the difference for a time now
The logo looks like Guerilla Games' upside down
I’m not even a PC gamer and this video was great.
It's a good card for a second hand pc. I have a main pc with a 12 core amd paired with a 2070 super for 1440 game play.. My other second hand pc uses an amd 6 core apu...tiny pc. I use it for 24/7 MMO ....black desert. May build a 3rd pc for emulation and this gpu will probably do the job.
Good find and thanks for sharing this with us.
Love the channel...
Definitely a great gpu for a second hand PC!
Hi techdweeb!
I found your channel recently and I really like the way you do your videos, they help me relax 😅.
Love the content and I hope your doing well: :D
Bought a gigabyte rtx 2060 for 140 bucks and the person that sold it was living near my place and we had to test it before I paid him. It was second hand but the unit was very clean and looked new.
went for a 2060 rtx super used and its almost the same as rtx 2070 non ti. best bang for the buck used gpu right now in my opinion
@@smokegames1179 I needed to undervolt mine cause the thermals was way too hot for my liking and now it stays within 70c with heavy graphic setting games. I always undervolt my cards and they last longer if they don't cook themselves to death.
just picked one up for $45 with free 12 day shipping!!!
Aisurix is a new brand from china or asia that we from south east asia are buying. Its cheap and has the rx 580, 5500, 6600, 6600xt and gtx 1660. Try it
I found out after my Radeon card died that they were used as mining cards and either refurbished or sold as is.
Crazy. How did you find out?
Bro, did you remember me ?
I was your 1000th Subscriber. When you uploaded Quadro T6400 Videos
Yup! Thanks for sticking with me buddy!
I considered an RX580/570, but the last time I bought an RX480... it lasted about 4-6 months. I should probably downclock the memory on the GPU and see if it will stabilize.
My rx 570 lasted 3 years before I upgraded and it still works really well so I gave the card to my brother. I did undervolt the card to keep it running cool and it didn't affect the performance. When you buy a card always test and monitor the thermals first to see if goes beyond the heat it can withstand and to see if there's an issue with the card so you can return it immediately.
@@zackburkhart8693 not really :P it coems down how the stuff was treated and in fact can happen to any vendor.
always make sure temps are in check under load. Repasting smetimes does wonders espe hwn buying used or for cards that had the blower style cooler
@@mareck6946 it was a gigabyte OC model. I tried repasting it. I suspect it just has a faulty core or memory. It was one of those "crash under load" type of things. It would usually just freeze the system. From what I remember, it's not a temperature issue.
@@greenprotag usually cores are fine and polaris is VERY sturdy for a gpu. But crash under load can be if one of the VRM rails has some "tired" caps - as usually the mosfets are fine - tho id still check em.
I just wanna say this content is high quality you earned yourself a subscriber friend
Thanks buddy! Welcome!
@@TechDweeb my PC journey started this year and I do have to say you're content is at the level of randomgaminginhd and budget builds online. You deserve more subs do you happen to have an official discord server?
What is it's power usage? The moment youtube channels started making videos about this card the price went to aroun 100 on aliexpress and even higher on amazon.
I don't recall the exact numbers (sorry, I should have included it in my afterburner data), but it was slightly less power usage than the regular RX 580.
Have you read that peculiar line in the description? 'chip RX 580/570/574/470/474 send randomly'
What do you think about that? Seems risky to me.
Yeah I did see that, and it's super weird. I don't see anyone in the reviews who got anything other than an RX 580. I think they're just really bad at making store pages tbh. They probably copy/pasted some text that doesn't apply 😒
@@TechDweeb I see, thanks!
dude the brush the and the fire proof molex 6 pin adapter is already like 10 bucks. so u r getting the GPU for somehtin like 60 bucks... spekaing of... on amazon AND aliexpress i cant find offers less than 110/100 $
btw. the core clock seems like 70Mhz less and the memory clock is even 250Mhz less. Shouldnt make much a difference though. Guess thats why the 6Pin instead of 8Pin of the originial (6 Pin being a pro in this case)
btw i also found some aliexpress offers where the rx580 only has x8 Pcie instead of x16, so definitly pay attentention there
this is the best time to get a gpu but since gpu mining is dead its gonna be for a longtime
It's a good thing it can play Horizon: Zero dawn, considering the logo on the box basically is a stolen and inverted copy of Guerrilla Games' logo, the original developer of the title.
Wait is the company using guerrillas studios logo but turned upside down as their own... lol
Yup. I'm sure they asked nicely if that would be okay 🤣
Hey back when I wanted to hop back in . I paid $70 for some 7870 GHOST that didnt work i had to reflow ram GPU then I was able to play.. so $70 and you get a REAL GPU
Holy Guerilla Games! I just noticed that they seemed to have used the logo from the developers of Horizon Zero Dawn!
Haha yeah. Easier to just steal someone else's logo I guess 🤣
Should've gone for Aisurix or MLLSE. That particular brand has more failure than other Aliexpress brands I have seen.
Btw, how many pcie pins does that one you got need, 6 or 8 pins? I heard they put random dies in there, so you might have an RX 470 die in there if it has 6 pcie pins.
Aisurix rx 580 gpu a top notch
Too be fair, I bought a RX580 off FB market for $80 a couple
Months ago
My little brother uses it now and it’s still pretty good 🤔
lmao thats the guerrilla games logo xd
Bro we buy Nitro plus RX580 for 45$ in Iran and RX570 for 40$ .
Woah crazy. I wasn't aware of the GPU prices there.
@@TechDweeb they're still solid after probably 3 years of mining , another crazy fact , we buy 1080p 75hz IPS Monitors for 50 bucks 😂
I'm using one albeit under a different brand 'Aisurix'. No complaints it works like a charm! Only problem I encountered is AMD drivers still suck to this day.
Thanks TD!
Just found out when I took my mingzhou RX 580 card apart. That the one got was not an RX580 but an ex mining RX470 card made in 2017. I had truble when I tryed to over clock it but it only go up to a clock speed 1206 mhz 2000 mhz memory clock with no problms but go any higher then that and it do all sort of horible things If you get one they work ok but i change the paste
Amazing budget gpu thanks Tech Dweeb
Honestly 70$ does not surprise me. If anything they should almost be cheaper at this point. The RX480 was 230$ for the 8gb model in 2016. Yes like 6.25 years ago! it was never a high end card to begin with. Its just that todays market has really messed up pricing on everything.
I was one of those who purchased an RX 580 in early 2019 for just 100$. Which is roughly what I felt they were worth back then.
In fact we are to a point where RX580s are finally showing their age in the most recent titles. RX580 in 2023 is what HD Radeon 7970 was in 2019 and these two cards are only like 60% difference in performance. I Know because I had a HD 7970.
i'm a 1440p gamer forced down to 1080p for now, now that i'm gaming on a gaming laptop for the first time ever although for what i spent i got a good deal IMO $800 all together msi gf63 thin i5 11400H/3050/intel UHD/32GB of 3200mhz ram/ 512GB kimgston mvmw boot drive/2.5" 500GB pny ssd *( i'm on the 3050 when plugged in and on the intel uhd on battery )*
That's a nice setup. I'd be happy gaming on that.
screw the RX580, I nailed an rx 5600 XT for $70 a week ago. I also own an MSI Armor RX 580 8gb and the 5600xt is leaps and bounds better. 580 is a nice get your foot in the door card.
Niiiiiiiiice!
I am so glad I have a GTX 1080 lol.
It was definitely a good buy... Still runs my games...
That said I really want to upgrade but cant :(
I'm deeply curious about how these things came to exist.
I mean, they won't be "new", right? The GPUs are probably salvaged from old cards, just like on those old fake 1050 Tis. Did someone find a bunch of ex-mining cards with dead VRAM, perhaps?
I honestly don't know. I've tried to get to the bottom of it (aka 30 minutes of googling), and I couldn't. I don't think anyone knows for sure, no one who is answering questions anyways. Either a) they're new gpus, as in, they're still making rx 580 gpus somewhere. b) they're salvaged GPUs from ex mining cards or whatever. c) they're new gpus that were made a while ago and weren't turned into graphics cards for whatever reason. I'm leaning towards C, this seems to make the most sense. Maybe that's why this 2048sp version exists, if AMD had some RX 580 gpus where several of the cores were bad and had to be binned, they could push up the clock speed spec up to compensate and release them as a different GPU (but give it to the Chinese, they'll buy anything!). Or maybe AMD just had more 2048sp's available than demand could work with so they focused on the regular rx 580s and now they have bulk inventory to offload. I can only guess. I have yet to hear a reliable explanation that is anything more than speculation.
Hey Iceberg, follower of your channel here. You do great work! Simping aside, these cards are made from new PCBs, memory modules, VRMs, video out connections, etc. BUT, the GPU core has 99.9% probability of being used. Either from a mining GPU that died, or from a Cyber Cafe PC. Or even from a mining GPU that didn't die, but became useless after ETH went POS.
I'm from Brazil and prices here are always awful. Taxes are way too high and sometimes I feel like our local retailers buy from foreign retailers instead of getting batches from the board partners. I suffered through the pandemic with lower end hardware and just got my 580 2048SP from AliExpress (paid 72 USD) and couldn't be happier with it.
I don't ignore the risks of buying one of these. For instance, there's no real warranty. But at least this time around the chinese miners aren't just dumping tortured cards filled with dust, but (apparently) selling the chips to manufacturers that are actually putting some effort into making the product desirable. Some versions of the card even have custom made backplates from these chinese brands.
Also, considering the fact that AMD released the 580 2048SP and the 590 GME (the 590 GME is just an OC'd RX 580, without the half node-shrink, nothing more, nothing less) in 2018, there's the hope that we'll have good driver support for at least another couple of years.
So, to answer your question about them being "new"; no, they won't. But to give credit when it's due, some sellers on AliExpress detail this fact and announce the card as being "98~99% new", which is kinda funny.
@@TechDweeb Great video! I'm also really impressed with the performance. Only thing is the fact that mine didn't come with a brush and now I'm pissed.
@@SiestaSoneca vram might be used too
They are recycled from the old mining farms that China cracked down on hard.
If these only were available with next day shipping on Amazon in your local region. Gamble of will it arrive weeks or months later with shipping. Language barrier for customer support if it arrives damaged. Amazon have them but more chunk of change 159 with prime.
Yeah that's always a risk with aliexpress stuff. Is it gonna arrive in a week, or a month, or never!?
You know what's a deal? When Buying a RX 580 that is only used for 1 year and it's a Sapphire Nitro+ Pulse and bought it for only $35? Yes. I bought one recently and so good~ Also, VS 450 and Seasonic, Gigabyte (450~550) PSUs can help you lifelong your GPU~
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If the Chinese manufacturers smartened up and dropped 16gb version of this card into the market for $150? The others would ban it.
"Whit" At Least... 😂
You can get a GTX 1660 super on aliexpres for 155 euro