The Mother Eleanor Never Had - The Good Place (Episode Highlight)
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- Опубликовано: 4 окт 2024
- Eleanor (Kristen Bell) can’t believe her mother has actually changed.
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From creator Michael Schur (“Brooklyn Nine-Nine,” “Parks and Recreation” and “Master of None”) comes a unique comedy about what makes a good person. The show follows Eleanor Shellstrop (Kristen Bell, “House of Lies,” “Veronica Mars”), an ordinary woman who enters the afterlife, and thanks to some kind of error, is sent to the Good Place instead of the Bad Place (which is definitely where she belongs). While hiding in plain sight from Good Place Architect Michael (Ted Danson - “Cheers,” “CSI” - in an Emmy Award-nominated performance), she’s determined to shed her old way of living and earn her spot.
The Mother Eleanor Never Had - The Good Place (Episode Highlight)
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I don't blame her for being hurt. That realization had to hurt.
Traye76 yeah I'm actually crying cause of it
God, exactly. "I just wasn't worth changing for" hit me so hard.
You can't blame somebody fot his/her feelings no matter what other human would feel
@Tara S. because it seems like Michael is blaming her at first. Then he understands
It does
"I wasn't worth changing for" cries...
It's a credit to the writing that we go from that to Bofa Deez Nutz, without batting an eye
Every time I watch this episode
when she said “i wanted a mom to make me afternoon snacks instead of just telling me to find loose fries in the Mcdonald’s ball pit”
it really brings out how much of something was taken from her. she could’ve just said “i wanted a mom to love me and be there for me” but she only wanted to experience what having a good mother was like even if its something so small
And that's why Chidi's moment of peace was seeing Eleanor with her mom in the Good Place.
I mean they both mean the same thing just her line was more specific over a very minor thing that a good mom would do and that hers neglected to do. Also it's the exact comparison between her childhood and her new siblings childhood.
@@jclyntoledo not quite. the mcdonald's line indicates that eleanor just wanted the bare minimum, scraps of a mother's love. she wasn't asking for a loving mother on the whole, something she was owed and deprived of. it's like a child living on the streets asking for a tent instead of a house.
This was a real heartbreaker. We can all relate to this, right? No matter what we do, ppl do not change and then they go and change for someone else and we're just target practice. So unfair for eleanor. She received no affection growing up and that can really mess you up.
Tim C she received no affection to the level where it made her into such a bad person that she went to hell
Tim C oops no .... what are you going through fam
I think that's part of why a lot of people cling so hard to the idea that people can't change because the idea that someone didn't give you their best isn't something we want to face.
Tim C not exactly, if someone changed after meeting you you’re part of the reason they became better, you’re not target practice, more like the wind beneath their wings
@@todayisthedayofsalvation sure the person who changed can see it that way but on the other side it isn't felt that way by the other person in this case by eleanor you feel not as important to have been brought along as that person changes you get left behind and used as just a stepping stone is what it can feel like if the other individual doesn't even acknowledges you and or what they may have done wrong instead treating you basically there past as if it was nothing
If you have one of these “first draft” kids in your life, HOLD THEM CLOSE AND MAKE THEM FEEL IMPORTANT. My husband’s dad wasn’t a part of his life till he was 16, and his parents have another kid and he gets to grow up with both. My husband has asked me why wasn’t he worth staying for, and it breaks my heart. Make sure they know you will always put them first.
I'm so sorry about that every kid is worth loving and staying for.
Your husband was worth staying for. Every kid is worth staying for. But people aren’t always capable of the same things at every point in their adult life. Your husband’s dad had to mature into the kind of person who could be in a child’s life. It’s your husband’s misfortune, which has nothing to do with his worth, that the timing of that did not work out for the child he was. His father was a deficient man when he was young, who, for some reason only he knows, was able to undergo a positive transformation. But it was too late for him to have a relationship with his first child. That doesn’t mean his first child didn’t deserve better.
Ngl that brought a tear to my eye.
Don't watch Rocketman then...my husband couldn't understand that scene, asking "how is he a good father to his new kids?" We've all heard stories if not seen the horrible truth of some people not being mature enough to have families, and end up doing a much better job with later families/step kids. It's such a cruel blow to the neglected kids who really do believe it must be their fault.
Lena Wagenfuehr that scene was probably the hardest to stomach.
Jake Peralta and Elenor Shellstrop deserved better parenting
I don't know who that Jake guy is but I agree nonetheless
@@joan15 And Jason
Brooklyn 99
BING-POT BROOOKKKLLYYNNNN NINEEE NINEE
I kind of ship Jake and Eleanor
“because i wanted that mom. i wanted the mom who made me afternoon snacks ... why does Patricia get that mom? if donna shellstrop really changed, then that means she was always capable of change. that i wasn’t worth changing for.”
this hit me hard, as someone who went through the same thing. this show is so dynamic (sorry for leaving so many comments, im binging highlights...)
I understand it hit me hard 2
milk fangs lol it's ok same
It hit me hard and I did not went trough a similar thing.
milk fangs you’re not the only one. I cried like for an hour because of that scene.
I cried
I have a cousin in her twenties and two years ago her father posted online he was going "to be a father" because his wife (second marriage) was pregnant with twins. I'm not close to her but I imagine that's gotta hurt.
Jesus Christ
It does hurt.
I am in the same position, I'm older now but it still makes me feel bad. Oh well, you grow up and you cope as you can.
wtf i feel so bad thats actually so cruel! He's acting like she never existed aw :(
I have a cousin who is considered to be the "other" child and even though she's already grown, I can still see the hurt whenever my uncle has family activities and doesn't care to invite her. He's in her life only when he feels like it. It also angers me when he asks me how she's doing instead of calling her and asking himself.
Hopefully he will be a better father, ow that he has grown up. Yes...it does feel like people have to learn as they go how to be parents..... gotta wonder if humankind couldn't come up with a better plan to raise their young.
I think Eleanor speaks for all of us who had distant parents. Most children wonder what they did to not deserve a great mom. As we get older we learn our parents didn't have great parents either. We just hope to break the cycle with our kids.
Amen! Sometimes it is hard to accept these people are only human beings like us and not someone just abusing a power they don't even know they have. Forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us. It's hard to do when the pain is still fresh.
This hits home so hard ...
I’ll break the cycle by having no kids
@@emittlame8095 Same.
Me and my brother have 8 years of difference and my mom is so much better with him than she was for me, she's just, so caring and I'm here watching everything and she barely even asks how I'm doing, was I really that awful of a child?
Eleanor: "Because I wanted that mom"
Me: * *Cries* * Aaaaahhhhh
It's a relief that atleast she got a father like Michael at the end .
samee
1:36-1:56 reminds me of the scene with Barney and his dad in HIMYM where he tells him "if you were going to be some lame suburban dad, why couldn't you have been that for me?!"
Same
Omg samee!! I love both shows sm
Me too!
Literally just watched a clip of that and commented of how this clip reminded me of that 😂
I watched the good place first so was reverse for me, but same! (sortof :P )
I feel so bad for Eleanor! It really is a miracle that Eleanor didn't straight up deck her mother. She deserved an apology at least!
I think she should say what she said to Michael to her mother, not in front of everyone else because that could give her bad people points, but should tell her just how bad she hurt her.
@@agenttheater5 the bad people points would be so worth it. Let her new child look at her differently and wonder...
@@veermudambi5795And You think You're better than Eleanor's Mom?
@@universalpower419 Sure, judging yourself to be better than someone's risky and hypocritical but like... Eleanors mom sucks dude. Almost anyone is better than Eleanors childhood flashbacks.
@@universalpower419 Not exactly setting a high bar for people there. Loads of people are better than Eleanor's mom
I was honestly totally surprised that Dave already knew Donna’s past life. I thought they were going to do the sitcom cliche where he’d laugh it off and only be proven wrong later. I forget how smart this show really is.
And I want to give Eleanor a hug 😢 But she has a real family now, in Michael, Chidi, Tahani, Jason, and Janet. And they all know that she’s worth being better for.
That's a great thought! Michael is a "father" who changed for her. Everything in this series world changes because of her. She gives everyone a reason to improve themselves.
Sean Fraser whenever you think the show is predictable you then get something unpredictable
But him knowing is also a sitcom cliche
Oscar Talauta
So not knowing is
Also knowing is
and it also hits harder because I didn't see it coming when she got emotional.
This scene hit me so hard for some reason. You can just feel her pain when she says "I wanted that mom!"
It’s the build up to that statement. The moments she’s staring at them as Michael is talking to her, the heavy breathing that are failing to center her... The admission wouldn’t be the same without seeing her emotional windup.
Forgot she was acting for a moment goddamn
I feel so bad for Eleanor since she didn't have a proper childhood. But Michael is like a father-figure to her and fills in as her parent. Also, the ending man!!! Yaasss Cheleanor rise in the next episode!! (Hopefully, since Michael told Eleanor that she and Chidi fell in love in the afterlife)
AGREE WITH ALL OF THIS. DAD MICHAEL AND CHELEANOR
Chidi is her best friend, I feel another kind of relationship between them is gonna feel forced
@@DianaFranco20 We already know they were together. And they both mutually fell in love multiple times in 800 reboots
@@moneylover318 in some reboots eleanor was partnered with tahani
Chidi and Eleanor's relationship is extremely forced.
That Michael self appointed himself as her designated father figure just makes me cry harder during this scene
This scene makes me cry every time. I felt this every time my mum sobered up when my sister came home, we had a family party or a holiday. Why not just for me?
I feel you. My mom is a functional alcoholic but she stood up for my sister in school when she was bullied and got her awesome christmas presents and took her on holidays and days out and to the cinema and i cant even remember a single time my mom took me to the park as a child. All i can remember from being a kid is not wanting to be around her because she was drunk and yelling at me all the time. There's nothing wrong with us it's a them problem but it doesn't stop it from hurting.
jesus im sorry. just know that you are worth having parties for. you deserve to be celebrated.
“She was always capable of change...I just wasn’t worth changing for” 😭😭💔
But for real though. As someone with two half siblings that my father never abused, you feel really upset like was it your own fault that that parent was awful to you but later on they become this leader or magically good parent. It messes you up. I love Eleanor.
I know this comment is a year ago and you’ve probably forgot about it. But you must know that it wasn’t your fault. I hope that things are working out for you
Hi Alexis. What happened to you sucks. I know the pain of not being enough to your parents. I don't have a magical answer to take the pain away. Just that, you are not alone. Take care. ❤️❤️❤️
I dont know if you still care about this reply section but I want to let you know that I wanna hug you and that I care. That's really all I got
It's true and i'm sorry for you
I have two half siblings as well, and they got way better treatment than me and my other brother. We weren't ever abused or anything, but it's so clear that my half siblings got the better deal. Strangely, I don't feel much negativity about it. I think about it, but I don't feel bitter or resentful or anything. I just want the best for my little siblings.
This reminded me a scene from HIMYM with Barney and his dad.
-Why won’t you come down and talk to me?
-Why? Why should I? You’re lame! You’re just some lame suburban dad!
-Why does it make you so mad?!
-*Cause if you were going to be some lame suburban dad why couldn’t you have been that to me?*
Breaks my heart
"but i wasn't worth changing for" was the line that really hit it home
u know its a good show when u feel like crying but 1.5 seconds later they hit u with a bofa...deeznuts
I actually don't get the joke (it's not my first language), what is Bofa supposed to mean?
@@parasytedax6858 "Vote for these nuts"
Donnie Darko
“Bofa Deeznuts” = both of these nuts(testicles)
Joss Whedon might've been a filthy cheater, but his practice of joke after drama was a smart one.
😂😂😂
Is it weird that this makes me really sad?
No it just mean you are human
No, I was also sad
Hello Goodbye No because it’s real life. Which is sad.
I can relate!
I'm also sad
I think the "why wasn't i worth changing for?" is something a lot of older siblings have when they realize their parents were/are not as good with them as they are with their younger siblings, and it really hurts because it's not like you want them to be bad parents with your siblings too but you can't hope and imagine what would it be like to be treated like them, to be loved like them
I am that “first draft” child that my father abandoned 27 years ago. This year, I saw him again and we talked. Then he brought his youngest son (seventh kid) to meet me. He never left his son’s life, but had the balls to do the damage to me. I was ok still because he taught me to never rely on anyone.
Chicken Stripz im sorry to reas this, everybody deserve to have the love of ur parent
Chicken Stripz hey twinsies, my dad abandoned me too when I was 11 completely and I had to stay with a narcissistic and manipulative mother, still don't know where's my dad, no contact.
Some parents should never have been one.
I'm very sorry for you
I remember reading similar to this scene on reddit. The mother had told her daughter that the reason why she was a different parent with her younger siblings was because they were her "do over" and "second chance." She told her mother "that's great that you want to do over. But I AM STILL HERE. You don't get to mess someone up and then have a clean start." I cried for endless days because I wanted to know how she is fairing now.
I really empathise with Eleanor in this scene every time and I ugly cry every time, even now. Because I have grown up with the exact similar crappy parent treatment, I don't think my upbringing will ever be truly healed, but I'm almost 20 now and if there's one thing I truly wish it's to find peace someday in this department of my life before I pass one day. Kristen did an amazing job at portraying and bringing out these emotions into her character and to the viewers for this scene.
*Some parents should really never deserve to have been/be one.*
Yeah
That's honestly one of the hardest things about people who hurt you becoming better people. It genuinely hurts to know that they where always capable of being that person for you, but they weren't.
That's why you aren't obligated to forgive people, even if thy are better. It doesn't erase the hurt.
Agree you are never obligated to forgive someone. But that's a bad reason to withhold forgiveness. Not because anyone deserves forgiveness, but because withholding it for that reason just gives the pain even more power over you.
@jordanledoux197 Not forgiving doesn't mean you still resent, hate or even think about them every night, it just means you can say "you hurt me, and I'm still not ready to say it's ok".
Obviously it's healthier to do so, but people need to stop forcing themselves to forgive abuse just because it's been years/they have changed, you can move on and heal, but forgiving your abuser is not a necessary step in the process.
Wow.....anyone who grew up with dysfunctional or jerk parents can really understand what Eleanor is feeling. I know it was just short dialogue but this episode still makes me cry. I really wanna see her actually apologize to Eleanor and have an emotional mother-daughter reunion.
Jun cho I absolutely understand and empathise. I have dysfunctional jerk parents. Dad abandoned me (only child) in early 2012 and none of us know where he is now and I'm left with a narcissistic and manipulative mother.
This scene immediately always makes me ugly cry and my heart sink in empathetic pain and Kristen executed this so well bc I feel that emotion.
Some parents should never have been one.
"If she was capable of change, then I wasn't worth that change". *deep end*
"I was just not worth changing for."
😭 That hit me in the feels 😭
So I watched this scene without context from seeing it on Tumblr- and I had heard a lot of good things about this show beforehand- but this particular scene is what sold me to start watching the Good Place, and it was even better with context once I caught up. Eleanor's background gets more heartbreaking as we continue to learn about her and Kristen Bell is PHENOMENAL in this role. She did such an amazing job with this scene. Kudos to everyone involved with this show! I haven't watched a show's weekly airings in god knows how long simply because all of the shows were stale and just seemed like the same plots or motifs. Thank you, TGP team!
Yeah
"If my mom changed, it means she was always capable of changing, and i wasn't worth changing for."
I feel that with my soul
For whoever decides what clips go on RUclips, I’d love the “No, Mom. Ya Basic” conversation from this episode.
William James I really want them to upload the funeral of Martin Luther Ghandi Tyler Moore 🐌
reminds me of my cousin who's never met her dad and when she tried to look him up on facebook, she discovered that he had two other daughters and looked so supportive about everything that they do as shown in his photos. it honestly broke my heart--for people like her to think they were just some sort of 'trial'.
"Self-appointed father figure" this show is so self-aware in such a Schur way
1:35 that lip wobble at the precise moment Michael said "mom" is an Emmy winner.
I think it perfect how that was shot with Eleanor facing the camera but away from Michael, so we can see her face change from the anger and suspicion she had been exhibiting to her deeper turmoil, but Michael does not until she turns around.
Eleanors mother had no remorse for being a bad mother or faking her own death. I kinda felt like she didnt change.
I love the music that happens in all these sad scenes, it's the same one from when Michael gave Eleanor his pin to go through the portal.
have you ever found it? i will KILL to listen to it on its own even if it's like 10 seconds long
Kristen knocked it out of the park in this episode. She sold that anger and hurt so well.
Oh, look. A reality in my life
Actually, this episode helped me out with intrinsic resentment towards my dad's two younger kids, aka my brother and sister. I have to keep reminding myself that my parents were in their teens, while their parents were in their 40s. So, really, while my siblings and I have the same father, we have totally different dads
Sadly that's kind of how it is with a lot of siblings but yes the age of makes it worse.
“Don’t look at me like that, you’re not my real dad” - No but he’s a great pitcher and bartender ;)
Right? And he's not even a tequila guy lol (a joke a few mins before this scene in this same episode!)
I feel for Eleanor. I had a great Mom in my childhood (well great for African moms), an "OK" mom in my preteens and a terrible Mom in my teens... when I needed a great Mom. Trust me seeing several versions of one person really messes with your head.
I loved the Bofa Deeznutz joke at the end... really removed the tension.
Emotional scenes in sitcoms are the worst.
I'm sorry for you
“As your self-appointed father figure” I AM FANGIRLING SO HARD-
This scene made me cry because when I was dating my ex he was always cheating on me and I was not aware. He lied to my face multiple times. When I told him that I was ready to move in with him, he said “Sorry but I still have feelings for someone else” after being together for 3 years.
I was depressed and felt like not good enough for anyone for months. I spent the first 3 months in bed with depression. With the help of family and friends I was able to move on.
Now, I know (a friend told me) that he is dating someone else and he is in therapy trying to be a better person. He finally came out to his family and friends.
It kills me because he was my first love, and I truly loved him.
You can say Eleanor was being petty by envying a child having an caring mom figure but 1:48 puts a good turn on that.
It’s one thing to KNOW your parent could be better, it’s a cruel knife twist LEARNING they actively chose not to be better.
This moment, this small little moment in an exceptional show, might be one of my favourite moments in any piece of media ever. It's very relatable to me, and the amount of heart and emotion that Kristen Bell puts into this scene is exceptional
Out of all of the emotional rollercoaster sciences I’ve experienced in this show, this is the only one that makes me cry. And then cry laughing at the end.
For some reason Eleanors problems with her mom always made me tear up. Most things I see on tv don’t effect me at all, (unless I relate to them or really like the characters) but every time Eleanor talks about her parents I feel really sad. I guess the writers did a really good job on her character
This killed me, poor Eleanor deserves love
This is one of the only shows/movies I've seen that actually gives a voice to the child hurt by adult selfishness. In the end, even though her mom has become a better person, Eleanor still has the hurt. Much more honest than most of the stuff we get... For contrast, watch Ricky and the Flash and Danny Collins, both of which focus primarily on the irresponsible adult's redemption, acknowledging but then sweeping aside with pat endings how the selfishness of adults causes lasting wounds to the parents. They're boomer fantasies that other people picking up the pieces for their abandonment somehow means everyone's fine in the end. The Good Place is a hilarious show, but it's also really touching on some serious things with a deft hand. Eleanor's cri de coeur is one of those deep moments; I hope those of us in a position to affect children with our choices take heed.
It's true
“She was always capable of change but, I just wasn’t worth changing for.”
reminds me of barney's breakdown in HIMYM where he found out his dad ended up becoming a suburban dad just not for him :(((
Sameeeee :(
I was thinking the same thing
Exactly!!!😭😭😭
This is my favourite episode so far in series 3. The show has developed its characters so well that it only took 1 line to touch me. It's lovely to follow the growth of everyone in the series and the messages of the show are real gold.
I feel so bad for Eleanor:(((
Oh god. I'm gonna cry
Saammee tears were about to fall!! 😭😭
The worst part was not having a bad mother, it was finding out she had the capacity to be a good one
Kristen Bell can really do it all. One minute you're laughing and then you're bawling your eyes out and then you're laughing again.
This is the most heartbreaking scene of the show.
I kind of wish miachel gave her a hug though.
Well, yes, but he is still learning... a Demon in recuperation.
@@MrAsmontero Wait!? What!? When this happened? I missed alot. Or the point of the story. I only watched like a few clips online and part of episode 1.
Season 1 final episode it turns out they were in The Bad Place all along Michael is a Bad Place demon who came up with an idea where humans would torture one another by accident as opposed to the demons torturing the humans, Eleanor was sent there for all her misdeeds in life and her punishment is being surrounded by people who’re better than her which destroys her “you’re not better than me” ideology, Chidi was sent there because he was so hung up on morals and what’s right and wrong that he took forever to make decisions and made life a living hell for everybody (he wasted an entire recess when he was at school trying to choose which kids to put on his team in a game and made all the other kids miserable for example) and his punishment is dealing with the moral implications of helping Eleanor stay in The Good Place, Tahani was sent there because she never cared about the charities and people she helped and because of her inferiority complex her punishment is that she’s stuck at the bottom of the list of good people in The Good Place And is surrounded by people who achieved more than her in life and the monk guy (I don’t know how to spell it) was actually a Floridian DJ named Jason Who committed petty crimes throughout his whole life and his punishment is being in a situation he doesn’t understand
At the end of season 1 Eleanor figures the truth out and Michael has to wipe their memories to start all over again but no matter what happens they figure it out and he keeps having to wipe their memories over and over again which is unknown to his boss. Eventually Michael is left in a situation where the others figure out the truth but has to keep their minds unwiped so things go as he plans and their deal is Michael will help them get to the real Good Place but in exchange Michael has to join their ethics lessons and become a better person, Michael eventually does become a good person and becomes friends with the others and Sneaks them to The Judge who’s the only one who can get them into the real Good Place and they make a deal Michael will undo their deaths and wipe their memories to prove that humans can improve in life as well as death with the one order for Michael and Janet being neither of them can interfere in their lives whilst they’re on earth but Michael breaks that rule when Eleanor dumps being a good person after a year of being one because she wants something out of it, Chidi develops his moral issues again after a piece of advice puts his friend in the hospital and he finds out blueberry muffins are bad because the workers who pick the blueberries are mistreated, Tahani became a monk for a bit but spiralled back into her self absorbed ways when she wrote a spiritual self help book and Jason started going straight and crime free but gave up on it when his dance group kept losing. Michael broke the rules and went down to earth to give Eleanor a little push to meet Chidi again so he can teach her to be a good person, he pushed Chidi to help Eleanor, he pushed Tahani to see what she was doing was wrong and he basically just told Jason to go join the others. Chidi started a moral philosophy group based on finding the links between people becoming more moral and having near death experiences and all the group comes together but they soon find out the truth when they find Michael and Janet going back to the afterlife in Tahani’s wine cellar and Michael is forced to come clean and tell them what happened, the group them decided to start a group that goes around helping people they know gain points to go the the good place
I have a dnd character who’s mom was modeled after her mom, and… man the pure rage our entire party felt. It’s not even that bad it’s just… really sad.
I feel this hard. My mom has my sister's kids in her custody and she treats those kids 180 different than how she did us. No abuse that I've seen, says she loves them, gives them hugs, prioritizes them, all the things she never did with us.
It grinds my teeth hard.
I'm glad the kids have a good life, but I'm furious she couldn't do that with me and my sister and instead me and her turned out really messed up.
Part of why I can't be around them, just too much hate.
God this scene hits too hard. My father left my brother and I a long time ago. Im 19 and my brother is now 25. Our father occasionally shows up for birthdays but thats about it. He has a completely new family. Wife and two kids, a boy and girl (ironically) just like my brother and I. It’s as if my mom, my brother and i were his “first draft” or just a “test run”. I felt Eleanor so hard in this scene about how her mom was capable of change, just not for her.
Something people don't realize, when you lose someone that you didn't value properly in life, it shocks you, it changes you completely. It makes you want a second chance to do it better all over again and it's something you see time and time again in relationships and breakups.
Bofa deez nuts😂😂😂
Also this scene is so good and sad Kristen’s performance in this episode was so good I mean I always love her in this show but this episode really stuck out to me in terms of her performance because her character is always more light and funny it was good to see a more vulnerable Eleanor and I think Kristen did a great job at portraying that and I also love Eleanor and Micheals dynamic I love their whole father daughter/friendship thing they have.
Jeff winger, Jake perlata , Elenor and Barney deserve all the love in the world 😭😭❤️
I love this scene, I relate alot to her issues and it makes me feel better someone was able to put it into words.
I can appreciate that the show is smart enough not to let Michael dish out some sympathy and comforting words for Eleanor (in extension, us, as the audience), he basically admits he's stumped and just doesn't say anything. Just really drives the point on how tragic the realization is for her without some sugar coated words sprinkled all over it. Also the "bofa deez nuts" joke was a good palette cleanser after a heavy scene.
I cry everytime I see this scene. Growing up my mom suffered heavily with addiction and I had a horrible childhood. Now she’s an addiction counselor and volunteers at my younger siblings schools. This perfectly explains my resentment for her; even tho I am proud of her now it still hurts so bad.
I almost cried when I first watched this...
Almost?
I’ve been thinking about this quote for three days and I think why it hurts so much to see people get better without you is because we’re taught that we learn and grow together and sometimes you’re not enough for someone. Eleanor’s mom wasn’t ready to be a real parent because she cared about only herself she was somewhat alone in that process because Eleanor’s dad was even worse having a partner who had the patience to show her how to do that improved her but leaves Elenor feeling like a failure but it’s not her fault, she wasn’t supposed to be the grownup. That was her moms job.
Kudos to Kristen Bell! I really felt her dialogue “because I wanted that mom” and, really this is a great job done by her, and btw im kinda sad that the site im watching from skipped this episode and they dont have this episode :((
having someone not change with their time with you then seeing them change for another person really does something to you and your idea of self-worth
"That's perfect for me, I don't know what I want" so sweet.
As a child of divorce who my dad left with two older siblings. They got to experience what having a father was, they knew him before. I knew the guy who yelled at me for spilling a bit of water on the one weekend he actually remembered to pick us up, when he didn't shove me into some corner and forgot about me. I didnt get the "playing in the backyard, helping me with my homework" dad they had, and they never understood that. I was too young for anyone to want to be around me and no one wanted to take care of me either, not even at home. Hell, I remember having to learn basic hygene at scholl after getting shamed for not knowing to put on deodorant or brushing my hair. I deserved more, I deserved the people my parents are now, but when I actually needed it. Sorry for the rent, just hit close to me
Many parents never actually grew up, and are just big kids who have no idea what they’re doing. And with most kids, their default setting is ignorance and selfishness. They hurt people around them and often have no inclination about any of it.
One of life’s greatest tragedies.
oh man. tears
THIS SCENE BROKE ME DOWN.
The good place is my favorite found family show
THIS BROKE ME. It broke me
"This bit is too sad, we need a poor quality joke to make everyone be less sad." "I've got this."
If a joke makes me laugh is it really poor quality?
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Life is a minefield. One man's poison is another man's cure. People going off right and left cause we inadvertently touched a sore spot. Now a days we are all being told we need sensitivity training. Don't know if there's an answer when some folks don't care who they hurt and others are out of their minds from past pains when they had to just suck it up and soldier on. In the end we just hope people will forgive us for being human when we forget that they are also human.
Eleanor: "Oh, I know your name. I'm calling you a mark."
Michael: "...Easy..."
This is what mother's day is to many, many people.
My heart breaks for her :(
Oof Eleanor's break in her voice damn
You know even for people who didn't grow up in a dysfunctional family if you were the oldest child then you still felt this on a milder scale.
This scene makes me cry EVERYTIME
the way she says "because I wanted that mom" makes me cry every time
My mom took that scene pretty hard since her dad walked out on them for another family when she was younger. Comedy is the American's version of therapy
This scene is brilliant, so heartbreaking. Wish Michael had given Eleanor a hug
I know right? 😢
reminds me of barney stinson when he said "if you were gonna be a lame suburban dad, why couldn't you have been that for me?" 😢
" I wasn't worth changing for "
that hurt
"Who am I, Avrile Lavigne?" Gets me every time
always makes me cry
As a child of a narcissistic parent who tried to abuse me my entire life and did abuse me in multiple situations, this literary gutted me to see. The idea that my dad could have changed for someone else but I could have not been good enough is such a brutal idea. The idea of your abuser becoming good because somebody else not because of his own child is just so painful. I'm sorry to everybody this has happened to you are good enough, they are not.
One of the hard truths in life. Sometimes we want people to change, but the timing or the circumstances are not right. And it's not necessary our fault.
My favourite episode of the season so far.
Every eldest sibling that was used as test subject to their mom and dad's toxic first time parenting can relate 😔🤚
If you don’t stop calling me out-
Like... the way she says WraT tho 0:50
I just wasnt worth changing for... that hits hard
this show makes me think of point of views that I never even thought of