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- Опубликовано: 22 фев 2024
- "This IS the Bad Place!"
Eleanor Shellstrop (Kristen Bell) has THAT revelation about The Good Place over and over as she's tortured by Michael (Ted Danson). But the tables turn when she uses this torture technique on Chidi!
From NBC's The Good Place: Eleanor Shellstrop (Kristen Bell), a deceased saleswoman who lived a morally corrupt life, finds herself in a heaven-like afterlife in a case of mistaken identity and tries to hide her past in order to stay there. Starring Ted Danson, Jamila Jamil, D'Arcy Carden, William Jackson Harper and Manny Jacinto.
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"Jason figured it out???" is iconic😭
*camera focuses on Jason’s proud smile*
“This is a real low point. Yeah. This one hurts.”
As soon as Jason interrupts Michael’s face is amazing.
Jason actually figured it out first - he realized they were one a prank show.
6:29
6:49
Eleanor was always the first to figure it out because out of all of them, she knew she didn’t deserve paradise so she always waited for the other shoe to drop.
She also has a fairly-good bullshirt detector
and she and Micheal think alike. she had the idea of people being used to torture each other in the bad place early on when she joked about her parents being used to torture each other
I would like this comment, but there are currently exactly 666 likes, and that is too perfect to fork with.
Except when Jason figured it out
I will never not be grateful that I didn't get spoiled for the first reveal. I LOST it.
I did have it spoiled after only watching the second episode, but it still totally worked. The writing was on the wall in giant neon letters already. But getting to that reveal is still great fun!
I was "spoiled" by seeing the reaction meme gif, but when I started watching I thought it would just be Eleanor being hyperbolic. The show managed to convince me that they were in the Good Place even when I had already technically been told the truth.
Same. I got semi-spoiled, because I saw that montage of Eleanore figuring it out, but I assumed it was a fan edit or something and that it was just a regular sitcom or something, and I didn’t put it together until the reveal
You have 3-4 negations in that post... I can only guess what you mean 😁
To me, what spoiled it was the inability to cuss. As soon as that was mentioned I was like "Oh. So it's the bad place?"
It is astonishing that this smart, original show actually ran on American network television - and that it ended both _as_ it should have ended and _when_ it should have ended. It's a masterpiece and certainly one of the five best TV series ever. It proves commercial television can be excellent if it wants to be.
Definitely. I can't add anything to that. Well said
The fact that it was on TV and did all that you said is really one in a million. I assume we won't get another television series like it on TV for the next 20 years.
@@amirriddle we did, it's called Ted Lasso 🙂
@@melportolan5653 I'll definitely check it out then 👍
Right because there were never smart shows on American TV ever... Jesus Christ don't be pretentious.
The first reveal truly blowed my mind
Blowed?
room temp IQ comment
It’s “blew my mind”, dear.
Are you trying to sound like Jason?
I fully like jaw dropped at that the first time I watch it
Michael's laugh when Eleanor first figured it out is so iconic 😂
Was looking for this comment. Everything about it is just so deliciously evil!😈 Gives me goosebumps every time!😆
I'll never forget this moment. I am kind of cursed with seeing plot developments ahead of time. But this was an iconic season-long twist that totally caught me by surprise. And how Ted Danson's mask sort of just beautifully slips subtly and then full ... it's wonderful.
I felt so betrayed lmao. I gasped out loud.
@@MollyInannait's a really well done twist I mean they literally had him kick a puppy into the sun!! But they got us to write it off as him being a wreck because of everything going on, and then we were genuinely surprised and betrayed when he pulled out that grin, it's amazing
I love how Eleanor uses that same laugh when she's playing the bad place architect role in the season 4 experiment
Okay but that 3h spoken word jazz performance was a sure way of exposing the plan. That's fully on Michael 😂
Dead giveaway.
@@ligiabonfanti3493Na that was in the first episode. Michael giveaway that she's dead. Yes that was a joke.
I mean, if the first time he just planned better and he didnt say "yeah this is the bad place", o he didnt smile on the best attept (dat 128)
Yeah. Micheal forgot to add what the first one add. Subtly.
Unless Eleanor had reason to believe her soulmate was a mole, a more reasonable explanation would have been that the real Eleanor really, really liked spoken-word jazz, since she strongly believed that the only problem was her and maybe Jason. That's not any more of a stretch than that the real Eleanor liked creepy clowns and tiny houses, which never seemed to tip her off.
The bar really is how much can Eleanor take before she thinks 'im in hell' and realizes she's right
That’s because she’s from Arizona. The bar was already in the sixth circle of hell.
The good place is one of those shows where every time you rewatch you see new background details. Like the ridiculous number of clowns in the "Jason figured it out?" scene
Oh my god i never noticed thats amazing, i love the idea of micheal just being like "MORE CLOWNS, IF THIS SHIP IS GOING DOWN IM MAKING SURE SHE SUFFERS AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE"
I never even noticed that!! Brilliant 😂
The clowns are everywhere in the bad place.
Its a metaphore for how the humans are getting clowned @DarthTach
And other details in specific moves and characteristics.
Like, there's a scene in Michael's office when "real Eleanor" (i.e., Vicki) and Bambajan are there, and when they keep referring to Eleanor and Vicki as "real Eleanor" and "fake Eleanor" and Eleanor finally is so bothered by it and says (I don't remember the exact quote, but paraphrased), "Can we stop referring to me as 'fake Eleanor,'" Bambajan steps in and says (again, paraphrased, as I don't remember it word-for-word), "actually, it helps me a lot to refer to you two as 'real' and 'fake' Eleanor." It makes so much more sense on the rewatch and makes it quite clear they're torturing them!
And this happens a lot! Michael's conversations with Chidi before the reveal always involve adding yet another choice out-of-nowhere and overemphasizing the importance of Chidi making the right choice (i.e., he keeps reminding Chidi Eleanor's life is at stake, he keeps pointing out that the mistake has "ruined" the algorithm and that there's no way to be sure they're making the right choice - Michael plays it off like he himself is being indecisive, but basically, it's obvious in hindsight that he's setting Chidi up to be miserable no matter what he does because he can't possibly know if he's made the right choice 😂😂😂)!
Even simple details make sense - like Vicki and Bambajan telling Eleanor she should go tell Chidi she loves him (when they're discussing her *case* on whether she gets to stay in the "Good Place" - like, that's a "strange" decision) moments after a painting made by Chidi is delivered to Tahani that is *exactly* what Michael told him to paint for her, all while Chidi is in the middle of a nervous breakdown over the aforementioned "what if I screw this up and Eleanor goes to the Bad Place? Also, I can never know if I was right or wrong because the mistake has scrambled the algorithm" conversation with Michael! At first glance, it's a throwaway "love triangle" moment. But on rewatch, it is *patently* obvious *not only* that it was meant to pile on the torture of Chidi, but also how well thought out the torture of Chidi was! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
And on that note, I should say, I theorize that another reason the plan failed was that these characters (especially Chidi and Tahani) were far more resilient to their torture than Michael or the demons expected. Simply put, the situation I mentioned above - where Chidi was *already* having a nervous breakdown *before* the pile on - should've *broken* Chidi! I theorize that Michael thought, at that moment, Chidi was going to go catatonic (like Cameron in Ferris Bueller's Day Off when he sees the mileage on the car) due to being so overwhelmed by stress (because he was *already* having trouble breathing *before* the pile on)! But, on rewatch, I noticed Chidi actually did *really* well to calm himself down in that moment when he was about to have the panic attack of all panic attacks! Feel free to assume that that theory is wrong or insert your own theories, but I wanted to mention that theory because it's fun and actually makes sense given the context - i.e., the show includes several minor "twists" when characters actually display a major moment of growth at an unexpected time when everything is about to fall apart (i.e., Tahani becomes *truly* selfless when it seems like her selfishness is about ruin everything. Chidi calms himself down when his anxiety is about to ruin everything. Etc)! It fits perfectly, and I like the theory that *not only* were *we* the audience not expecting those "twists" but *neither* were Michael and the demons (and those "twists" are often what ultimately halts their plan right when it's about to hit its point-of-no-return)! 🙂🙂🙂🙂
Anyway, hope you enjoyed my comment!
Jason actually figured it out immediately when he thought it was a sick reality show.
And I love that the show realises this, and calls back to it. Eleanor is such a bro and takes the moment to give Jason credit for it
I never get enough of this show!!!!
Michael: *JASON figured it out?!! Oh, that's a real low. This one hurts.* 🤣😂😅😁
Jason’s smile at that is perfect
I just love that Chidi and Tahani never figured it out, because they honestly thought they belonged in the Good Place. Only the people who didn't think they belonged could be the ones to realize the truth.
i love the way it comes full circle with eleanor getting to do the laugh and reveal with michael after (mostly) being the one to figure it out all those previous times
AND full circle when she becomes the architect in the last season. eleanor is such a good character and i love her arc so much
@@aweckzsEleanor isn't the one who becomes an architect, that's Tahani
The show does this a LOT. For example in the first reveal, Eleanor calls Michael into the room with "Micheal, come on out". The reverse of the first words in the show "Eleanor, come on in". And this is far from the only time this is done.
The two actually do the same thing, or the reverse of each other all the time in other areas as well.
I just love the montage of Eleanor figuring it out while Michael keeps spiraling downward.😂😊❤❤❤
“Holy motherforking shirt balls” is just such hilarious censorship.😂😂😂
It was such a brilliant way to let people completely swear, but ... not swear.
“It occurred to me: this is torture” so Michael’s idea worked… just only for like 15 minutes
LOL I actually have a theory that Michael's plan "failed" because it didn't work as well as he thought it would (and not just because of the time it lasted, though that's not unrelated).
Simply put, there were *a number* of moments in the show where a "twist" (a small one) happened when a character actually overcame/outgrew a major flaw that looked like it was about to upend everything and "break" the situation beyond repair (i.e., the characters would be forever miserable afterwards)! My theory is that *not only* did these moments surprise *us* (the audience), but *also* Michael, who thought those moments would "complete" his plan and that the four of Eleanor, Tahani, Chidi, and Jason would never recover! But the fact that a character outgrew their flaw and "saved" the situation before it became unfixable threw a wrench in Michael's plan - and ultimately, allowed them to "survive" (without completely breaking) long enough to keep their wits about them to figure out what was *actually* happening! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I believe the best example of this is when Eleanor and Tahani (egged on by others that we now know were demons the entire time) told Chidi they loved him! Simply put, that happened *right* as Chidi was having a full-blown nervous breakdown thanks to Michael (who piled on on Chidi moments before that moment about how important it was that he make the right decision *and* about how there was *no way* to know if he made the right decision)! My theory is that Michael figured *that* added pile on of Eleanor and Tahani saying that would send Chidi over-the-edge and he'd go catatonic and the situation would no longer be salvageable! But Chidi actually showed remarkable growth in that moment and calmed himself down!
There are *a number* of moments like this (like when Jason is refusing to allow the train to return from the Medium Place), and my theory is that Michael banked on certain bad decisions being made by certain characters that would make the situation unsalvageable, but these characters kept surprising him (and us)! The show strongly implies that if Chidi breaks in that moment, or Jason refuses to let the train return, then (in addition to the situation becoming so horrible there's no fixing) these characters feel so depressed and terrible that they go *truly* insane!
My theory is that Michael actually got it to the brink of that point *multiple* times, but it "fell apart" at the last moment due to a character showing surprising growth at the last possible second! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
So yes, thanks for mentioning that, because I theorize that Michael's plan *did* "fail," because he was looking to break these characters' psyches beyond repair, and *failed* to do that - but came *awfully* close to doing so *several* times! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Short version: Michael *very nearly* succeeded (both in time *and* in quantity of "torture"), and your comment is a lot closer to being true than many of us realize!
Ted Danson is *sublime* as Michael. That cackle on the first reveal just...-chef's kiss-
"Clam chowder *_IS_* disgusting! It's just hot ocean milk with dead animal croutons." 💀🤣😂
Jason figuring it out the one time was the best one, especially the reaction on Michael. Just beautiful.
6:35 the look of absolute horror on his face as Jason begins to piece it together is forking fantastic
I love how at 4:00 you can see Michael smiling, then Eleanor briefly looks at him and instantly realizes they're in the Bad Place. I love the subtleties in this show!
she doesn't really seem to look at him, she just happens to turn her head on his direction but her eyes didn't fixate on him. She quickly looks away again as she's realizing where they are because of the fighting.
I feel like people overuse the word "instantly" for these things. I think that what's far more impactful is that she had the idea, then spends a good few seconds letting it gradually sink in as she realises that yes… she's right
An idea that big takes a little while to fully sink in, as you recontextualize everything that it's connected to
This show was so clever! Don’t forget the Medium Place! 🤣🤣
Meh, I have mixed feelings about that place.
@@LinguaPhiliaxkinda medium, don't you think?
I think we all felt Eleanor’s disdain for the “three-hour spoken-word jazz opera”.
I love how when Eleanor is in Michaels position she delivers the *exact* same line that Michael does in season one - and delivers it perfectly.
“I don’t know don’t ask me that my stomach hurts”
The clown on the conveyer belt is actually horrifying
Oh hey, that's random. Certainly didn't expect to see one of my fav RL streamers of old here. Hope you're doing good HKBoba!
@@yng1234 haha small world. I'm doing good, thanks!!
Oh what I wouldn't give to be able to watch the plot twist for the first time again.
The closest you can get is reliving it through reaction channels which is so satisfying when you know the twist but they don’t 😂
@@BubaielDo you know of any good ones that had a good reaction to it? I'm not that familiar with reaction channels, but that sounds like a good idea
@@ninjadragongamer6861 There’s The Normies, and Ramblers Inc., I especially recommend Tyler Alexander’s reactions to the show, he’s still in the middle of watching the show and uploading reactions at the moment but he has such insightful dialogue about the ethical dilemmas being presented in the show and brang up so much stuff that I never considered before
I miss this show so much. Especially the gems of free flowing nonsense from Jason. “You’re just mad I’m not some sort of scientist that forecloses on banks.” 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I highly recommend rewatching it! If you've already rewatched it, rewatch it again!
Like, you notice *so much more* in the rewatches and I'd argue it's *so much better* each time you rewatch it! 🙂🙂🙂
I got my mum to watch this show a year ago - she didn't know the twist and I managed to keep it from her (I'd already seen the whole series) - the look on her face when Michael did that demonic laugh was sooooooo worth it!
2:59 - Can we give Ted Danson an Emmy just for the moment when he lets that smile come out?
I still remember how my bf and I audibly gasped when we saw that episode. His mom and brothers came to check on us and they were like "what what?" even though they had never watched the show because our reaction had them super curious
The first reveal was genuinely a SHOCK, that laugh of Michael lmao 😂
my favorite is when jason figures it out and michael is just completely flabbergasted
I don't know. Please don't ask me that. My stomach hurts.
I LOVE her hatred for clam chowder 😂
A clam chowder fountain is the most amazing idea for hell I could imagine.
I WAS SO SURPRISED AND THE FIRST REVELATION BLEW ME UP AND LET ME WALKING AROUND IN CIRCLES FOR MINUTES!!
I'm so glad I did not got spoiled when I first watched.
if I could rewatch a plot twist for the first time again it would be this one. I was BLOWN by the revelation
This was such a mindbending plot twist I wonder if any other show will ever hit it
This was hilarious. Too many of them were clueless.
Welp…time to re-binge this
William Jackson Harper is hilarious "I don't know please don't ask me that..."
This is still the best series ever on television - with a huge twist of the good bad place. Best written series, best actors, best comedy. It had a plan from start to finish and it only lasted 4 seasons but is was fun while it lasted.
4:57 will always be my favourite line
Someday, I hope Michael will pop into my life, snap his fingers, and let me watch this show from the beginning again. That reveal was amazeballs.
"Yes, we get to stay baby, we did it"
A really imaginative show and kept going at the same hi level throughout the series. Brilliant !!
BEES BEES BEES BEES 🐝
DYING!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Michael’s laugh, each and every time ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Probably the greatest season ending twist in television history
I want to watch the show again because it was funny as hell, but the final episode...I balled for hours. I love the concept and writing and the way it was presented but my poor sensitivity can't handle that kind of goodbye. Maybe I'll watch till the end and then skip the last episodes like I do Friends lol.
Yeah, I avoid endings too. There's no need to sign up for more emotional turmoil than you can take
I did a rewatch months ago. Somewhere last year. Still haven't seen the last one, because I am not mentally prepared 😂
Michael slowly smiles and then that iconic laugh got me every time it's so evil but yet funny I think they did that on purpose hahahahah oh man I can't believe you figured it out 😂😂😂😂😂😂 dying with laughter
I love this show. Watched it 3 times before. Now planning to rewatch again.
Same here
I just realized there are so many paralells between this and A Midnight Summer's Dream
Do you mean A midsummer nights dream?
Michael Schur is brilliant. And THIS is his best work.
6:31 The best one.
When i watched the first season i was enjoying it laughing along and if it continued that way I think I would have been more than happy. Then when the plot twist hits at the end of the first season my mind was actually blown and one of my favourite moments ever in a show because of it.
Best show series
01:20 to 3:07 just perfect 👌🤯
we need a spinoff series of just the repeat attempts
One of the rare shows where I didn't see the twist coming from a mile away! Watching with my friend, at some point she asked if I had any theories yet and I was like what could I possibly even be making theories for???
Michael’s laugh makes me think of that Twilight Zone episode with a similar premise.
I’ve had that feeling before. Though right now I’m having a bit of a craving for clam chowder for some reason. Maybe this is the bad place?
1:00 - Couple's Retreat
Great callback
LOVED this show. So creative and refreshing AND uplifting. I keep looking for something like this again but it was a rare breed. 🤩
I genuinely didn't see the twist coming, this series blew me away!
I miss that show
Not that it’s good place related but since Kristen bell plays Eleanor she also plays Anna from frozen and sometimes I think Paul and Patty Peterson from Mr Peabody and Sherman could be amazing adoptive parents to Anna and Elsa
have you seen her in "The Girl in the Window Across the Street" ?
I am rewatching the good place from the beginning of season 1,Is funny every time Eleanor figures out that they are in the bad place and one of the episode Jason figured it out.
This season made me cry like anything
I forking love Vickie.
Absolutely loved this show watched it 4 times total each time next season came out
The only time I’ve ever shouted out at the TV in my life is when Eleanor went to step through the door at the end….I couldn’t help but shout “NO!”. I love that show.
1:24 Disney language
Well she IS a Disney princess. 😉
Love this show! 😄
Why'd they make this whole show super adorable?
5:39 I’m just lost for words
6:18 one of the best reveals
The ''OH BU NO BETH PLAITH" is genius
That massive reveal at the end of the first season would be the peak series finale for most other shows (IF they even peaked that high)... and yet, that is only the start of The Good Place REALLY picking up. The final season was a forking masterpiece. I don't usually rewatch shows immediately after finishing them, but I did with this one. And holy mother forking shirtballs I want to rewatch it again now just thinking about it.
I love Eleanor so much, best character
What is the outtake from? I don’t remember that scene! Lol
This was one of the finest moments in television history.
Ted Danson's laugh is fantastic!!!
watching this show and figuring it out for the first time shocked me so bad i was like 😮
2:55 I came back for his laugh
i just loved that show Iconic
Smart cookie
5:37 this one is hilarious
the comparison with the first and last one lol
Chidi in the background: 'The pig's getting angry!' and 'Bees! Bees! Bees! Bees!' while Eleanor is having 'this is the bad place' epiphanies is hilarious, lol.
This was just an awesome forking good show.. I miss it... Glad I watched it when it was running and didn't get any spoilers
I remember thinking “god this is like No Exit (Sartre’s play on 4 people who annoyed/hated one another’s personalities stuck in a room together, which is basically “hell is other people”)
I've never seen this show, and I doubt I'll watch it now. But I won't eat clam chowder again that's for sure.
why did they keep telling eleanor that a bad place exists? 🤣
I mean the existence of a good place implies that there’s a bad place and the entire basis for the torture hinges on the fact that Eleanor knows she shouldn’t be there
TLDR: They could have told her that the 'bad' souls don't go anywhere.
To the second point, yeah, the torture, as presented, relies on her knowing that there's another place and that she's supposed to be there instead.
To the first point, the existence of a 'heaven' does not necessarily imply the existence of a 'hell'. They could have told her that bad souls simply burn up when they try to pass from life into afterlife or maybe they get recycled into new souls, which would have addressed the second point as well.
Many other things would have had to change, but she wouldn't so quickly figure out that she was in 'the wrong place' if she didn't know another place existed.
@@Bubaiel
I love this show!
Miss this show.
Ted's face shift when he lets his evil self come out. It's really great.
“Eleanor what’s going on?”
As someone who has never watched this and tbh doesn't even know what this is.... im so confused but yes i did watch the whole video 😂
Me too lol
ironic that all they needed to do was to copy the good place to torture them, getting what they want, they no longer enjoy it and are in eternal boredom for eternity, nothing good happens when you get exactly what you want.
"This IS the other place!"
I miss this show