I Bought The Rarest And Most Powerful Used MINI Sight Unseen - It Turned Out To Be a Hot Mess!
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Great content my dudes! So glad you’re still finding ways to have a good time and bring us good vids!
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A dealership didn't tell you the truth? I'm shocked! shocked I tell you
🤣 they never do😄
Hood out of wack, a non functioning headlight and an airbag light. Yeah, that’s been in an accident.
I have a mini from the same year. When I bought it, I had at least as many issues. It's a Mini. If you wanted a reliable ride, go get a Honda. Would have made for a full video, though.
@@MalcolmRowley Agreed, my Mini R56 JCW had a bonnet (hood) that was not straight. Never bothered me though.
Body repair had been done by someone having a coffee break
FYI just check out Arthur Tussik youtube channel, he fixed cars often written off in North America and body panels are lining up near factory specs!
No question it's had bodywork done. At 9:36 while showing the wasted rubber around the mirror (totally common fault on these) the paint shows definite signs of a bad wet sand job from a cheap repair. That's NOT Mini factory paint for sure. BAD orange peel.
Lesson learned is NEVER buy a used car sight unseen, especially when they say “as is”.
A good GP that needs a lot of TLC on TFLnow! 😂 Look forward to seeing more. 👍
GP in this case stands for Garbage Pile. My condolences.
Yeah. BMW +mini 💩box
By that logic all mini's are GP's lol
a friend did not sell me his mini....he said we might end up not being friends anymore if he sold it to me LOL
cali818 😂😂😂
cali818 someone I know traded her Mini in on a Fiat 500...out of the frying pan, into the fire 🔥
@@steveb7310 What could ever go wrong with a Fiat 500 than a MINI Cooper! lol
Hey I'm a mini mechanic in the UK alot of these problems are easy to fix and are quite cheap to do the tyre light can be reset through the dash and so can the brake light if they have changed the sensor the airbag light will need diagnostics. Always happy to help from across the pond.
You can get those headlight bulbs dirt cheap on eBay, I have OEM hid bulbs on my 06 Escalade, paid 20 bucks for a set and they have been working for more than 2yrs, screw paying 200 each for a Phillips.
Glad y’all got instead of me! I was one of two others interested in this car.
Sounds like a Wheeler Dealers special. Don’t know what the equivalent is in the US but in the UK we have the MOT test, and this car would not have passed an MOT in which case you should walk away
The guts of it seem solid. Great buy!! Can’t wait for the follow-up video after you do some restoration work
Hey really fun watching you guys together it's so cool that you're hanging and doing your thing.
For a premium, limited edition model this one was abused. Drove hard on the track? Definitely have a mechanic go through this thing for a real world assessment of engine, brakes, suspension. Good luck guys!
These guys are terrific and should have more subscribers. Their always interesting, watchable and relatable. Great job guys!
"These Minis are endless money pit as they age."
- Anonymous Car Mechanic
True. I loves these cars but i went and bought a toyota just to be on the save side.
@@ibj3 you said to be on the "save" side. Pun intended?
So very, very, VERY true.
Aren't all the fun cars money pits?
@@Wrangzilla yes they are, but you can have fun with these cars for years before you start seeing issues. I had friends buying these cars but they don't tend to keep them for more then 2 years.
Definitely fun little cars to drive. I just picked up a r56 MCS earlier this month as a non runner for super cheap, but it's a victim of the failed timing chain and bent valve syndrome so I'll be working on this for a good minute. Word of advice, start changing that oil every 3 to 4000 miles and use CRC gdi valve cleaner at every oil change!! A few extra $ per year will save a ton of $$$ and down time in the long run. Also have a r53 MCS 6 speed with little upgrades, absolute fun and easy car to drive and still get +30mpg!
Nice car...that looks like a very collectable car...GP model?....Im thinking these are rare.Thanks for showing it Roman n Tommy☺
Awesome work. Can't wait to see it all fixed.
The tyre pressure you can remove form you dashboard, is really easy read the manual. If that doesn’t not work then you have a problem with the valveless 😆, congrats for the GP even with all the details it is a dream car, I’m owning a #R6S #235hp at the moment enjoyable toy
Used to work in downtown Austin, and there was a GP used as a daily and street parked around my building just about every day. Wondering if it’s this one; can’t be too many in the area. Explains that wheel rash, eroded rubber from sitting in the sun, etc.
Those tires are almost 4 years old. That 4 digit number on the side wall 4816 tells me that they were made the 48th week of 2016
You have to reset the tire pressure by locating the reset button positioned in front cabin on the emergency brake handle.
And then, turn the ignition to position 2, press and hold the reset button until the yellow indicator on the dash lights up for a few seconds.
This is great content👍
Looks like your giving it it's first service since new !
this is where having it inspected would have paid off !
And the dealer you bought it from was Trophy motors -
I think they also own the local Advanta tire dealership !
Sad to see that MINI had not improved quality from my 2004 Cooper S Hardtop. It needed a ton of maintenance, and the interior was super shoddy quality. I maintain you should only lease a BMW / MINI if new, or not at maximum depreciation.
I had this car for a couple years. Still at the top of the list for most fun cars I’ve ever driven. Used it for a season of autoX
Love the father/son videos! Looking forward to the father/son Mini Cooper shootout comparo!
Dealer would never lie.......
It's gonna cost another 13k to fix it.
I've got 2 cars over 150k in my stable and they look almost new compared to this thing. Good luck guys.
You’ve got the ultimate hot hatch that you can drive without care. Sounds like a win to me!
I owned an '03 S, then an '06 JCW. You have decarbon of the head to do, timing chain, plastic thermostat housing cracking to look forward to. They were a blast to drive on the track, which this one could have done. All cars kept outside have bad rubber, typical. When you replace the windshield, get all new plastic clips, on the '03 I didn't, and one A-pillar cover blew off, sounded like a jet taking off the rest of the trip.
Replacing gold-plated BMW parts got old, so went back to a Honda.
Project car! You guys are pros and fixing up vehicles on a budget!
I'm in love! Can we put it up against my FiST now that its got intake and exhaust and lighter wheels?!😁
#1 of 2000! Its just a used car, can't expect it to be perfect. You should talk to Vtuned, this car would be right up his alley.
Good grief that dealership really dropped the ball and now their paying for it with the negative review by TFL! Serves them right for being dishonest, lazy or stupid!
this was used as intended probably has 40000 track miles on it :P Actually scratch that this wa probably totalled, whole front gone, crompled, probably the frames are all warped too
When I bought my 09 JKU it was very clear that the previous owners had not taken care of it. After 6 months of ownership literally all of the suspension and brakes were replaced, the drive shaft and the egr sensor. It also needed wheels, tires and a whole lot of cosmetic repairs. I’m all told about 25 grand into this Jeep now and finally have it about where I want it but man it’s just mind blowing that people spend so much on a vehicle to not take care of it.
My friend has a 2009 Mini Cooper Clubman s he bought for $9k a few years ago. Soon after he purchased it, he had to replace the engine for $7k. He has had problem after problem with the car. Luckily it is his 3rd car that he doesn't drive very much. If you want one of these cars, lease it new for only as long as the warranty is in effect.
Then turn it back in! The Mini dealer I visited told me it's different since 2014, that is when they started using BMW motors and transmissions. Did BMW suddenly turn reliable in 2014?
2013 mini, which still had the small body style, fixed alot of the engine problems that were occurring in earlier years.
? They’ve always used BMW motors in the ‘new’ mini. They came from the BMW plant in Oxford where the new shape was first produced.
The first gen minis used a Rover/Chrysler developed engine. The second and third gen minis did use BMW engines, but the new B38/B48 engines are completely reliable.
@@acalinga How do you know if it's only been 6 years ago? True reliability stats takes at least 10 years or more.
Ayy great car because just the fact that it survived is awesome 💯 quick note I own a mini my self 2014 Cooper coupe S great fun car 😁
@TFlnow - you should contact Way at Way Motor works in the Atlanta area if you are interested into talking to a true Mini expert about the best ways to upgrade that GP.
The TPMS light on MINIs also comes on when you swap tires and the pressure is different above the monitoring threshold. In my old 2004 Cooper S, it would always come on when I swapped to winters/summers, so if the tires they put on are new, they possibly never reset the sensor. You should just be able to power on the car to pre-ignition while holding down the tire pressure button by the e-brake (assuming it hasn’t moved)
Thanks for the heads up but we already tried that 🤦♀️
@@TFLnow bummer! I guess it it's quite probably faulty then, which honestly isn't a surprise given the laundry list of issues the car seems to have... 😅 Hopefully it all gets sorted out; it was a great deal of so!
When will you make a video with the mini on a hoist, to show what was destroyed under the frame.
Reminds me that I need to buy a new HOSE(ED) for the yard this year.
The owners or owner for that car didn't care much about it
Maybe its my inexperience with Mini's, but when you started up the engine it looked like it needed an engine mount as well? That engine hop was quite dramatic to me. But in any case I hope this car serves you all well in the long run.
3:10 im pretty sure it's for structural strength, same effect as a roll cage/make the ride stiffer
Congrats on the purchase Tommy!
what a steal! You shouldn't be disappointed at all! You can fix most of those issues and still come out under $20k... brakes, oil, wipers, xenon, bits and pieces, etc. Most important are the clean title and low price.
ST It is true! with all its drawbacks this car is cheaper by almost half the market price.
With repairs it will definitely not be more than $ 25,000, and even if you buy it at the normal market's price doesn't mean it's trouble-free.
These lights is The 3fecta known by minis probably is a wheel sensor wich is controlling dsc,tyrepresure,airbag.... easy and not so expensive if you have obd
Someone clearly did not care about that car, including the dealership.
Enjoyed the video. Sorry for your new purchase!
@tflnow the #reason the #hoodgap is different on the #drivers side is because the #hoodlatch on that side isnt working properly. My mini looked the same had the same issue i got the #latches replaced. Fits perfect.
Why did you buy a POS like that? Keep the Comanche instead and sell this thing now.
"Content" needs to be "created". 😁
@@GIGABACHI I think Roman got burned and this is all sour grapes
These guys are very well known and people will sponsor this cars restoration.
LOVE IT!! .COOPER FAN FOR LIFE!!!!!!
Game on nice buy definitely gem just needs some tlc
“Shunt” word of the day.
I went to the doctor, he recommended getting a shunt! 😂😅🤣
First time I've heard the word used that way - must be a Colorado thing...
Shunt your mouth..
I hear “shunt” used by Formula 1 commentators. Maybe more common in the UK.
Thomas the tank engine shunts cars ALL DAY LONG!
I've looked at a couple used minis and they seemed to be cars that wore out much more quickly than their mileage would suggest.
It's just the way owners thrash them. That's the problem. I am on my 5th Mini right now. Mini no 3 was a huge problem for me. Cost me a fortune. Others were fine, no problem.
Lucky!!! That's my most wanted car I've been looking for! :P one day I will
I had nothing but problems with my ‘07 Cooper S. Absolute blast to drive, but nothing but mechanical problems from day 1 and I bought it brand new. Such a shame.
The “aerodynamic” flare missing on one side is commonly used by European manufacturers to comply with regulations so that the wider part of the car is the bodywork and no the wheels. Wheels can’t “poke” out of the cars side panels.
Airbag lights from where it had buckets seats and the kirb rash is Armco rash most likely
I like how he called the dealership and they told him the car had issues, I never have that luck when looking for a car. I usually find out after I buy it.
This video doesn't do this car justice, buy one that was taken care of properly like any car should then do a video of it. These cars are amazing 👍🏻
being the ex owner of a supercharged mini. when they are good, they are a ton of fun. but when they get sick, your wallet has a ton of fun opening up so much. things to watch out for is clutch/throw out bearing rattle, the dreaded power steering motor failure, and last but not least, the top of the coil overs have a bearing on them with a rubber cushion. if that rubber degrades, the top of your coilover will pop up and go into the hood.
Seems to me the big problem is not the car but the "we bought it sight unseen" part.
That GP is dirty. I like it! Never knew they even made these.
I just purchased a 2019 mini Cooper S John Cooper Works that’s what it says on the steering wheel with 8000 miles on it it’s still had the factory warranty good for 2 1/2 years and I only paid 21,000 I thought that was a good deal what do you think
They probably didn’t reset the tpms after putting the tires on. You can reset it through the display on the tachometer with the button on the turn signal lever, then drive it for a few minutes and it should go out unless the system has a fault
I have a 12 JCW, about 55k, Love it.
TFL: "We bought a Mini GP!"
Mine owners: "Sweet! What kind!"
TFL: "Second generation!"
Mini owners: *facepalm* "FFFFFFUUUUUUU-!"
I think is still a good deal. Just spend $3k - $4k in TLC, track it for 2 years and sell it for $15k-16k. 🤷🏻♂️
I had a 2013 JCW, hella fun of car!
So, you guys gonna fix it? Could you show the 'before/after'? 'Shunting' good video! Cheers
Someones mommy or daddy bought them a sweet Mini for their 16th!
Agreed
@@StormRoxas I hate that when that happens
Surprised you’ve called out the dealer by name, I imagine you’ll never deal with them again! You guys got had if you were buying it as collectors!
Jason 360 f them crooks
Tfl is complaining about typical poor quality Mini. Not stuff dealer did...
@@johnvoss2922 This just screams not looked after. But man..you'd think some of the stuff would last longer. The dash? What on earth is that about.
5:49 omg that door shut is loud XD
exactly what I thought. Ive noticed this in many videos done on the Mini, why are they so loud? Sounds like doors from 1970's vehicles
1st Shame on Trophy used car.
2nd Great video.
3rd Looking forward for upcoming videos on this GP !
You have to use the BC button on the left turn signal stock to reset the tire pressure sensor. And then drive about 5-10 minutes for it to be done
we did
This car has definitely been in an accident of some kind. However, the wear that you are showing is fairly common in MINIs. They fall apart pretty easily. One of the reasons I stayed far away from them. Very expensive to fix too.
I traded my 2016 Cooper S in for a 2018 Mustang GT. My Cooper had 65k miles on it and it was pristine. I just think this particular GP had a rougher than normal life.
Very informative video guys. But you guys know better...you shouldn't even be doing test runs until basic maintenance is done. Maybe that engine oil wasn't 3 shades of midnight (pretty close though) quite yet. But I've worked on vehicles where the oil filter was so old it had broken into dozens of pieces. Also Trans-axel could be low, coolant, power steering, brake. I trust you guys though.
At a guess I'd say that Mini was 'hammered' in it's life,..I'd almost bet the turbo charger has NOT had it's suggested service,..and even if the service is not yet due, according to mileage,
I'd sure as heck would have it done soon,...very soon! Easiest and cheapest way to fix those headlights,...replace them both with aftermarket lights. According to the body damage you're finding
it would seem that 'Car Facts' can't tell you what a good visual inspection would reveal.
All that aside, when you get those "hot mess" items cleared away,..you will ( or should ) enjoy your Mini Cooper.
Wow yall got taken pretty good.. Looks like about 10k worth of work needs to be done to bring it back to stock..
Minis are easy to work on, we have taken my sons car engine out and repaired it, them we took my wife's engine out. As soon as you buy a mini you need to change all gaskets and seal on the engine, also replace all the water hoses water pump and thermostat and pipe bet5the 2
If you ever get to fixing the hood alignment, MAKE A VIDEO and I'll make sure to pass it along to my local mini dealership. "Allowance for appearance" they took 200$ off my deductible for your exact issue and I'd rather pay them the 200$ and get it right.
It would be interesting to see which auto parts store, if they do this currently will scan and print your codes for the money lights and how compatible it is. You can also see if they will print historic codes, current codes, pending codes. If I were you guys I would order your own parts instead of letting your mechanic order them because theres a good chance you're going to pay for cheap parts or stupid euro dealership prices. See, what he recommends replacing and if he will use your parts, though probably won't offer a warranty on them. But the places I recommend is fcpeuro and Eeuroparts both carry all sorts of different European made parts at good prices cheaper than mini parts and better than Chinese parts. Plus some of these are oem parts but because they don't say Land Rover or Mini they're cheaper. Also, they come with a lifetime warranty meaning if you replace say your brakes that you bought from them, you order new ones then send your old ones back for full refund. m.eeuroparts.com/Cars/Mini/83952012/2013-Cooper-John-Cooper-Works-GP-R56-Hatchback-1-6L-4-Cyl-16-Valve-Turbo/
www.fcpeuro.com/Mini-parts/Cooper/Headlight-Trim/?position=Left&year=2013&m=3365&e=2153&t=6&b=8&d=4902&v=
If that "1 of 2000" actually means that it is the 1st of 2000 then you have a real collectable there. I know some manufacturers increment those numbers on the special editions. If that is the case on this one, it could be worth a lot more...
I think they just want you to know it is 1 of the 2000, not the 1st of 2000
@@turboshottho sounds about right. Otherwise it should say "No.1 of 2000."
There was an option to have the serial in decals above the driver door and the serial engraved on a chrome shifter knob. The GP is a blast to drive.
Obviously the Dipstick who owned the car prior to you did take care of the and didn't understand what kind of car he or she had or just didn't care. Thanks for sharing video of the car. I am looking forward to seeing how it goes as you get things fixed. I would for sure get the tires for the car.
2006 GP are more rare. But you guys are right lol I’ve never seen a GP this bad. Hurts my heart lol
Bought my Mini under similar circumstances. Bought it Totaled, sight unseen, on eBay with a credit card.
TFL. Please add fox struts, 6 inch lift kit, 35 inch tires, and a snorkel.
This makes me want to get a cheap 500 abarth lol
Too bad they beat on that GP. My 2011 Cooper with 156,000km is still like the day she came home. No worn interior parts, tight as a drum, and no rust (they use salt where I live in the winter). You just have to take care of them.
So, I guess it's Andre's turn to buy a mini.
How do you curb ALL 4 wheels and not change the oil ever, plus everything else...so strange for the model! Great video guys 👍👍
Lady drivers car... Sugar daddy bought her a car 💆♀️
There is more, timing chain problem, vacuum pump, the ECS shaft and motor, turbo, oil leak from oil filter housing gasket, lot more, enjoy the car while you still can.
Oh forgot to mention, the mini I have with the camshaft adjuster rocker fly out while driving on freeway, no sign no noise or vibration, it just happen, after a new cylinder head put in, now it is alive again, for now.
Such an appealing speed rocket, but mechanically unsound. Gave my Countryman up because Florida's heat was going to destroy it.
Most of those trim issues aren't due to abuse. It's because it's a 7 year old Mini with 50k miles. They're known to not wear well. Used to get trade in's at the Nissan dealer I worked at. They always went to auction because they weren't "front line" cars.
Hey what do you know1????The three amigos are back baby!!!!
Don't let those mystery tires get you killed!